gtfo-lore

[lilac island]

Trust

I know

[royal crow]

nah

we just die

best GTFO ending

[cold sphinx]

you arent allowed to cook anymore

[lilac island]

I'm gonna cook u alive

[cold sphinx]

says the level skipper

[royal crow]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-27223516

[lilac island]

Because you're maKING ME QUESTION MY SANITY

[cold sphinx]

i personally will not let him cook

[lilac island]

i have my cooking oil

[royal crow]

this is the best Lore-chat convo we had in a while

i love it

[eternal talon]

lmao, what?
the topic of getting just enough nourishment so there is no waste is far beyond my level of biological knowledge, but its the 2060s so who knows. poop deus ex machina

[cold sphinx]

bro cant even hold up one theory

i cant trust him on the stove

[lilac island]

Ok

Irl.

[cold sphinx]

im not saying youre wrong

im just saying

that its both on the spectrum of a 50/50

[lilac island]

If a guy has no digestive system function, you give em nutrients directly in their heart

[cold sphinx]

this and that

[lilac island]

No it's not

[cold sphinx]

ayo what the fuck

[lilac island]

Bro listen

[cold sphinx]

HEART?!?!

[lilac island]

YES

[cold sphinx]

HUH

[lilac island]

This exists

[royal crow]

im just going for some food

[eternal talon]

neither level spawn or found HSUs seem to have this functionality of any sort.

[royal crow]

brb

[cold sphinx]

naw bruh

im not hearing allat

[eternal talon]

ogr3. ooooold log

[royal crow]

you have screenshots of everything in this game

[lilac island]

WE DON'T SHIT BECAUSE WE EAT NOTHING SOLID

[royal crow]

i swear to god

[cold sphinx]

fuck you mean nutrients goes straight to the heart

[lilac island]

We don't consume solid food

[eternal talon]

lmao yeah. been here for years. catalogue EVERYTHING

half a decade of lore

[cold sphinx]

not only you cook bad you dont even know how the human body works

[royal crow]

[lilac island]

It's a thing look it up

[cold sphinx]

how

[lilac island]

Dude I've seen patients

GOOGLE OT

[cold sphinx]

how can you inject straight up that shit into a heart

[royal crow]

actually

its real

[cold sphinx]

without letting it sink in the blood stream

[royal crow]

like, legit

[cold sphinx]

and deliver normally into the heart

[eternal talon]

this all started with the poop bucket.

[lilac island]

you hook up an IV to the patient and slowly drip the fluid into a vallve on their chest over hours

And that sustains them

[royal crow]

your lore obssesion started with schaeffer bucket?

LMAO

[cold sphinx]

yeah

its all from that

[lilac island]

That's not prisoner poop

[eternal talon]

it doesnt otherwise destination wouldn't have the thistle anymore. either that, or its the only thing in existance to be immune

[lilac island]

Non kso

[eternal talon]

no, the talk of poop

[cold sphinx]

i will only accept this as a fact

if

we get a tube in our chest

[eternal talon]

mine came from OGr1 and talking about a megavirus/fungus riding a meteor to earth and hybernating. theories were very different back then. we knew so little

[cold sphinx]

only deal

now

[lilac island]

This is the only option warp

[cold sphinx]

cook for me elbow

[lilac island]

There's no other solution to the food problem

[eternal talon]

+1 wtf

[cold sphinx]

see?

even frostty dont even like your cooking

[lilac island]

Listen to me

[cold sphinx]

im done lmao

its Joever

i will say to your theory

is that

[eternal talon]

(me logging in and seeing 143 messages)

https://tenor.com/view/chewsday-innit-gif-21235477

[cold sphinx]

we get syringes

and injecting us with the "nutrients"

or sugar you may say

to keep us healthy for the time being

[eternal talon]

its either dead silent in here or i cant read fast enough there is so many people typing. no in-between

[cold sphinx]

via blood stream

there is no way

[cold sphinx]

a post end of the world

where you can do shit to your heart

[eternal talon]

sugar straight to the blood stream sounds like one hell of a way to instantly get type 43 diabetus

[cold sphinx]

risk free

[cold sphinx]

in little

just enough to keep your liver working fine

[eternal talon]

that wouldn't work for ksos though. we are contantly under max exertion, i think the lowest heart rate average is 160bpm

constantly running swinging sledgehammer adjacent weapons

[lilac island]

At least we do 100 hours of extremely difficult manual labour. This is a FACT, because there sre more than 80 expeditions, and they take like 1 hours and something each.

You cannot possibly survive this without eating something. This is also a FACT, because our prisoners are very thin

THEREFORE, we must be getting nutriets into our bodies somehow.

There are 2 options for this.

1. We eat food. Highly unlikely, because NAMV is everywhere, and we're clean (it is a FACT that we're clean, confirmed by alt Scheaffer). If we put solid food in our mouth, we get namv.

2. We are given nutrients in HSUs while we sleep, which wouldn't infcet us

[eternal talon]

we must burn like 3k calories a mission

[cold sphinx]

thats why we have different concuctions

for different types of ppl

[lilac island]

Warpgate read my essay

[cold sphinx]

designated for each scenario

[lilac island]

I stg

[eternal talon]

im one of the maniacs that stealth = sprint bashing

[lilac island]

It's not complicated

[eternal talon]

they can't scream if they are dead.

[cold sphinx]

i aint reading allat

[lilac island]

Then you can't talk

[cold sphinx]

jk i am just a second

[royal crow]

this is great

[eternal talon]

Santonian Sponsored Snickers.

[lilac island]

You CAN'T PUT FOOD IN UR MOUTH

[cold sphinx]

why

[lilac island]

You would get virus omg

[cold sphinx]

we dont have teeth?

[lilac island]

VIRUS IS AIRBORNE

[royal crow]

dear ducking god

[eternal talon]

we gon' get it anyway. it makes no difference lul

[lilac island]

PLEASE

[cold sphinx]

thats what im saying lol

[royal crow]

it transmits on every possible way*

[lilac island]

You are killing my soul

[eternal talon]

it is also fluid transmission, and every other

it'd probably infect you through your sweat pores in your skin

[cold sphinx]

@dark valve mista 10CC please say somethign that is actually cannon

[eternal talon]

it is mega op

[cold sphinx]

not this uncooked shite

[lilac island]

I'm leaving

[royal crow]

he is about to ban everyone in here

[cold sphinx]

he gon give all us the NLO role

[eternal talon]

just let me eat in peace, i'm gonna die anyway, let me raid the pantry while i am at it.

[lilac island]

Anyone who says we eat solid food is dumb

[lilac island]

Pin this cuz it's factual

[cold sphinx]

and we are back to square 1

[lilac island]

Warp read my essay and stop talking i

[cold sphinx]

let me hold you right there bro

i read

and literally

[lilac island]

Then we're done

[royal crow]

acustic people holy shit

[eternal talon]

under the control of biocom we eat whatever we are given in hydrostasis. its only really up for debate post-when we disable our chips in r8

[royal crow]

we had too much GTFO

bruh

[cold sphinx]

1st thing i see u dead ass wrong

[lilac island]

I'm acoustic as shit

[eternal talon]

also kinda funny, we dont remove them like schaeffer did to henrikkson. we just disable them. we still have them rattling around in our heads

[cold sphinx]

is that

the virus acts almost like the abyssal T-virus from RE

is that is mutates at a certain point of emotions and sepcific which we stopped

[lilac island]

[cold sphinx]

when the HSU kills us

[lilac island]

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-this-is-the-part-where-you-run-away-get-out-run-away-gif-24468359

[cold sphinx]

the shit gets back a pretty good way

allowing for no heavy symtomps

[eternal talon]

fog isnt nam-v.

[lilac island]

I know

[eternal talon]

if it was, it'd be a whole hell of a lot easier to avoid and the surface probably wouldnt have fallen

[lilac island]

I said so earlier

[cold sphinx]

@royal crow agree to not let elbow cook?

[lilac island]

[eternal talon]

The breakthrough that Kovac Research hopes will answer these questions
is called Hydrostasis - a process that allows humans to be held in a
state of suspended animation for weeks, months, even years at a time
without suffering any ill-effects. The nuts and bolts of the process
are a closely guarded secret, but sources speculate that the procedure
likely uses a synthetic amniotic fluid to sustain and protect the body
while it is in an induced comatose state. In this state, the body is -
for all intents and purposes - dead, but no cell deterioration or
physical decay occurs. For the human in Hydrostasis, the heart, and
time, stops.

[lilac island]

To sustain and protect the body

To SUSTAIN

[cold sphinx]

thats what my reference is

[lilac island]

Sustenance

[cold sphinx]

if you stop it the virus also gets punch but comes back either way

[cold sphinx]

you really make it sounds like it doesnt

but nice save

[lilac island]

[cold sphinx]

for that save

you are let aback on the stove

now drop this shitty stuff and move to the MWP

much better topic

[lilac island]

look

[cold sphinx]

no

[eternal talon]

Okay, come on John… you can fix this! Notes… Notes, notes, notes, notes… Here… hydrostasis revival… “Before the synthiotic fluid transfusion begins, a hydrokinetic solution must be administered to prevent… catastrophic neocortical tissue collapse. Without it, the subject will become violent and exhibit uncontrolled…” “The solution is automatically administered by the D.I. controller prior to the reanimation procedure. However, should the HSU be isolated from a capable interface, the solution must be administered manually.” Manually? Oh… Maddox. Okay, where do I get it? Preparation… no… procedure… research! Let’s see… “The study of hydrokinetic energy production in plants has provided a foundation for synthesizing hydrokinetic solution and other revival…” Plants! Yes! That’s why they’re everywhere! Okay. That’s a plan!

[cold sphinx]

theres no look

[lilac island]

The devil is in the details

[cold sphinx]

thats it

nuh uh

[lilac island]

The big stuff is kindergarten shit

[cold sphinx]

nope

were done

[lilac island]

The details make men

[cold sphinx]

theres no mo

[eternal talon]

The only method we have found of killing the virus is by stopping the biological functions of the host through hydrostasis (or death). Fortunately, the parasites have not yet found a way into the HSUs. However, after hydrostasis reinfection is possible. We continue to improve our sterilization and prophylaxis methods, but we are fighting a losing battle. I see no future for us if we do not seek the origin of these lifeforms and find an immune genome. If we are to survive NAM-V, we must turn to the nature that created it. Evolution has had millions of years to fight the virus. We have months.

[lilac island]

Go enjoy ur new home

Without sny gut bacteria

[royal crow]

guys im eating physical food

[cold sphinx]

random sleeper walks in

"lemme sum"

[eternal talon]

It's a crypt. A huge room, filled with thousands of people locked in hydrostasis units. That's the scientific term for them, but they're coffins. They're filled with the nearly dead, locked in an endless purgatory, their memories and personalities being eaten away, used for some unknown purpose by an AI routine that sees them as nothing more than resources. That saw me, as nothing more than a resource.
I know what happened to me. I was here, and I left a message, for whoever was coming to help, on the Hearsay terminal. Well no one came, and that was seven years ago. Seven years! Seven years of nothing, no memories, no experience, no life. Seven years in the coffin, like the rest of them. The difference is I knew what I was doing. I had a choice. Seven years ago, this facility was being overrun by the same creatures that own it today. I came here, to KDS Deep, and climbed into a hydrostasis unit. I knew what it would do to me, but I did it anyway. I destroyed my life to save it.
Well the person that climbed into that hydrostasis unit may have died that day but I'm not dead. I'm getting the fuck out of here. I'm getting out of here, and I'm taking as many of these poor fuckers as I can with me. I don't know what's outside of this place, but I'm going to find out, and I'm going to find the person that created this nightmare and make them pay.

i dont see any other major logs regarding hydrostasis

[cold sphinx]

okay

[lilac island]

nightmare reference

[eternal talon]

if what you are looking for isnt in these, it probably isnt in logs.

[cold sphinx]

stopping the nutrients stuff

lets move to the MWP

so

its literally is a key

to jump between worlds

[lilac island]

Mwp is a funny rock

That's it

Boring

[cold sphinx]

ik its a outer space rock

but i wana know if we on the same page

[royal crow]

interdimensional rock

[lilac island]

Not even that funny

[cold sphinx]

of noticing it

like a key

[lilac island]

I guess u can look at it as a key

I don't

[royal crow]

its a door

not a key

[cold sphinx]

[lilac island]

It's a vibrating crystal that u resonate with when you touch

It's not a door

[royal crow]

are we touching crystals?

damn bro

[lilac island]

Alternative medicine

[cold sphinx]

i didnt know cirtine from warframe was in GTFO?

[lilac island]

Actually that's a good point

How is mwp here and when we touch we go wee

Is it a touch screen

[royal crow]

uuuuuh

unstable funny rock?

[eternal talon]

#gtfo-lore message

[lilac island]

The containment is a touchscreen

And we keep misclicking

[cold sphinx]

that just reminds me

[cold sphinx]

what did schaffer said to us on R8A1

after we pick up and almost at the door to send him the MWP

he was saying some stuff

about the insight

[lilac island]

Idk u pkayed the level right

U should know

Level non skipper

[cold sphinx]

damn bro i played E2 for the last week

i would know fr fr

[royal crow]

project insight studied the MWP and a lot of other stuff

[raw terrace]

elbows never touchin lore again

[lilac island]

I will

[cold sphinx]

i have less faith in his cooks

[royal crow]

😆

[cold sphinx]

every things coming out shit now that im here

[lilac island]

I have less faith in the colour yellow

After this

[royal crow]

nitro boosters smh

[cold sphinx]

elbow starting the racism GTFO lore when

[lilac island]

Lol

[cold sphinx]

all against dauda

woods doing black face

[royal crow]

we need racism against Bishop

i hate that fucker

[cold sphinx]

hackkett suddenly turns into briish

[royal crow]

NOOOOO

HACKETT

[cold sphinx]

Bishop goes full scottish

[eternal talon]

the clean worldline isn't in the excel log.

[royal crow]

so

interesting

[royal crow]

that mf

[cold sphinx]

aight time to go do something better

[royal crow]

is the reason of half my wipes

[cold sphinx]

anyone wana E2?

[royal crow]

no

[eternal talon]

(also obligatory blured.mp4 post)

[royal crow]

GTFO players trying to piece together the story:

https://tenor.com/view/ibai-explicando-rapido-720-eduardo-gif-18338196

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-explaining-gif-13403485

[cold sphinx]

GTFO players when they cant put food in their mouths:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/766831166606147632/1101522916660756490/caption.gif

[royal crow]

GTFO lore chat discusing if we shit

[eternal talon]

even the devs make mistakes sometimes

[cold sphinx]

CConsole used

human rights stripped

[eternal talon]

(talking about the </color)

[royal crow]

spageti code

smh

[eternal talon]

bite me

screenshots matter more

[cold sphinx]

[eternal talon]

also it seems very stupid to store HSUs upside down.

we aren't bats.

[royal crow]

bet

[cold sphinx]

real

cannon to the brim

[eternal talon]

more upside down hsus

can anyone identify what species of plant this is? -- if any

[royal crow]

i think those are green plants

you are welcome

[cold sphinx]

man stfu

let me look

[royal crow]

its the truth

green plants

what else do you need

[eternal talon]

actually... wait a minute

[royal crow]

waits

[eternal talon]

okay nevermind, false flag.

they are different

[royal crow]

how many screenshots do you have?

[eternal talon]

i have screenshots of fucking everything. here are three more angles

hundreds, easily. its honestly a pain to search through them

(and you know i didn't fake those, thats ogr6)

i played the shit out of that rundown.

[royal crow]

wtf

[eternal talon]

wait wrong image, HERE we go

this is from the end of ogr6

[royal crow]

waht the fuck

[eternal talon]

previous pic is before extension

[royal crow]

46 A1 clears

how

what

[eternal talon]

(most of those 44 b1 runs are solo, i love the free roam destination)

[cold sphinx]

ferns

[eternal talon]

ah, HERE is the better picture of the bucket

[warm root]

Is there an end to the 000-000-000 log

[ivory falcon]

does anyone know why R8 has ||bodies in blue clothing throughout the complex? I've seen them in R8D1 at the end before running to extract and towards the end of R8A2. Are they other versions of Bishop, Dauda, Woods, and Hackett from other timelines who died in our timeline?|| I have only completely up to and including R8A2, so limit spoilers if possible.

[eternal talon]

yes.

well, technically they died in their own worldlines, but all of them have merged

if each worldline is a noodle r8 is 🍝

[spark field]

Monstera deliciosa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstera_deliciosa

I would say that now. I am not a plant expert.

[winter oracle]

Sorry for necro, but we get infection via fog and it is confirmed in logs that infectious fog is a concentrated namv

Also we can get rid from it via dis. stations. Go and try to find lore explanation for that

Also, spontaneous thought:

What if we place human that infected with both virus and parasite in hsu. Virus and parasite can live indefinitely, can they in hsu? What if all those F HSUs are humans with both infections? Will they mutate into sleeper that "sleeps" in hsu? What happens when hsu power cuts out? Probably sleepers sleep in their coffin.

[spark field]

But wasn't it said at the time that there would still be randomly generated rundowns?

If not I hope that Den of Wolfes has a lore connection. So a multiverse.

[winter oracle]

There is a mod for randomly generated enemies, rooms, scans, etc, but the mission still the same

I would say deeprockyfy your gtfo

[coral gorge]

is it confirmed?

i always thought we never got any lore about fog

and infection for that matter

[winter oracle]

Yes, I think it is somewhere in Dauda's logs

I may be wrong, but it's log confirmed

[lilac island]

No

Infection is not namv because disinfection packs exist and syringe contents give you infection

Infection is something else

[eternal talon]

Syringes.

[eternal talon]

They won't mutate because they are dead, and even so, hydrostasis kills the virus, so it'd just be the human and the parasite

[eternal talon]

No

[royal crow]

that would be broken af

😆

[eternal talon]

It's not. Fog/poppers/syringes is an entirely separate infection

[royal crow]

also i dont think that will work with GTFO gameplay mechanics

unless they put some limits

[eternal talon]

Levels ARE randomly genenerated terrain wise, but they have so many god damn holes that it would never work without actual human imput to fix all of that

[royal crow]

exactly

but if we are talking about randomly generating INSIDE the game
it will just be broken

i forgor the word for that

[eternal talon]

Also cross referencing wrdnobjective and rundowndata? I'm not sure you could randomly generate that

It all has to work perfectly or it will either ctd or be unplayable

If there is even the slightest issue the game's solution is to just load forever. It is really annoying.

[royal crow]

i kinda have an idea on how it could work
but it would requiere a massive ammount of work and testing

and i mean massive

[winter oracle]

there is no proof that "infection" is different "infection"

this feature exists because it's a game, not a real life simulator

[winter oracle]

Frosty, we need proof

Feels like "I don't like it other way"

If there is no way to confirm or deny this...

Then why we even theorise?

vaporous environment heavily dosed with infected fomites(c) Dauda's log , sounds like fog for me

[burnt wren]

Its still insane that we still dont know what spitters are

I guess just parts of the Inner's collection that got lose and spread around with spores or something?

[eternal talon]

The fact syringes were shipped in from offsite but yet also carry the infection? And the fact that nam-v can stay on surfaces for almost a month yet we don't ever get "infection" from standing on the floor? Or getting hit by sleepers? And that's ignoring disinfect stations (which are mentioned in logs so lol) they are very different

I'm not on my pc rn so can't link logs but can later

[winter oracle]

Connor managed to survive 2 years

nam-v can stay on surface on syringe

All doctors disinfect the skin surface with alcohol before injection (and I guess we never do it)

I bet syringes were added before R6 and the lore was kinda non existing before that rundown

[burnt wren]

Also potentiality

Half of it is basically just fun game mechanics that shouldn't be read into too much

For all we know its some other alien sub-infection that's just normal

[winter oracle]

Alright, I this is the dead end, no point to argue. Personally for me, game has no proof that we're infected with namv at R8E2, that fog isn't namv, that Schaeffer is a super hero that can breathe infected air for decade, game has zero clear proofs to proof or de-proof something.

[burnt wren]

Then again infections don't work like this, this looks more like being gassed or intoxicated with some chemical or another

[winter oracle]

I've read that some irl gasmasks can have anti-infection filters

[burnt wren]

I mean its probably just extra thick filter or something

Bacteria and viruses are just small things in the air, not much different from some charcoal dust.

Stack enough hyper tight materials together and vuala - you're golden.

A bitch to breath through, though.

[winter oracle]

Mm..there is filters for gasmasks that can protect against bacteria and viruses

Not charcoal, I guess

Gas masks with filters that have a high level of particulate filtration, such as N100 rated masks, can effectively filter out viruses and bacteria The filtration efficiency of a mask is represented by its capacity to hold particles and viruses, and masks with enhanced antimicrobial properties can provide an additional layer of protection . However, it is crucial to ensure that the gas mask fits properly and creates a tight seal against the face to prevent leakage of contaminated air around the edges of the mask CBRN stuff

The most stupid thing that deproof everything

Is Schaeffer and Connor

[coral gorge]

Connor did say he wore a „gel mask” and used an HSU regularly

so i think the main funny is schafer

[winter oracle]

And Schaeffer didn't

[coral gorge]

Yeah

schafer is

f u n n y

[winter oracle]

We can proof that there is no infection whatsoever by this fact

6 rundowns or more

Or If you THINK(thanks auto correction) that alts happening after R7, that ...12?

Also, schaeffer can close security doors

Godlike character, I wish I could close them too

[coral gorge]

lol

schafer prolly learned it from henri

henri was the chad gamer

unfortunate schafer used his choking asmr powers on him

[cold sphinx]

nah

bashed him with a bucket

like skyrim

[coral gorge]

lol

what was the buckets name again?

[winter oracle]

he did it before he has entered his first hsu

[coral gorge]

ah

then

uh

[winter oracle]

ye

[coral gorge]

frog

[winter oracle]

frog reppeler

[coral gorge]

goddamn swedish making my favorite character worse

ngl i wish we got an E3 that you can access by saving henrikson somehow

that'd be fun

[winter oracle]

F1

Z1 level for chads

[eternal talon]

the log is from before it got out. give me a moment.

actually... 2050... thats before they ever even encountered nam-v at all

**Sender: Ian Wolcott
Receiver: Carlos Lands
Date: August 4th 2050
Subject: Inventory management

Carlos,

Just wanted to let you know that the wares arrived today. Everything is in order.

Current Inventory control:

Zone 2: Foam test Lab 14 foam grenades 38 foam mines

Zone 3: Explosives test Lab 48 Tripmines

Zone 4: Medical Lab, 52 I2-LP Syringes 29 IIx drug Syrin=/xrg**

[eternal talon]

nope, this is from ogr5. iirc the same rundown that added them

[winter oracle]

I'm not saying that syringes contain virus

[eternal talon]

schaeffer also has so many plot holes regarding him that this one isnt major at all.
most noteably, him breaking free of the warden in r4 but the warden didnt have access to his HSU until r5

[winter oracle]

I'm pointing that "ultra virus that can survive everywhere on every surface for 4 weeks"

Can be on surface of syringe

Those said syringes even without any protecion caps

Just needle

And uhh, to be honest

All this 4 weeks and "every surfaces" came long long after syringes were released

And that 4 week - surface lore we've got in R8

Is there any info about "NAM-V" prior OG R6?

[eternal talon]

*There is also a growing list of AGGRESSIVE boosters
(rejecteJ($#J(&FD We really have no use for these as they are not
cost efficient. While the performance benefits are extraordinary, they
are ultimately dangerous and frankly, toxic. I have sent a batch to
Gar&)(^huijhi&^R&^tbut I must reiterate that I do not approve of
their use. I cannot be held responsible for the results.

It@#$ppI_rqw@@mm]]important that we dispose of the serum used in any
aggressive booster mod as there may already be an underground market
develo9942())hw^%$&recreational_use. I hav$&fgr4%the term “aggros”
is already being used. They can be traced back to us, so please be
extremely careful with them.

[eternal talon]

yes, a lot

IHYQ456.LOG
WIOGL56.LOG
LOCS-43W-MOA-D.LOG
CDCX-1154-V.LOG

[winter oracle]

Maybe I'm wrong, but is is loosly mentioned 2 times in R5

And all those mentions are about "mysterious" virus that terrorises Earth

[eternal talon]

**This is a new virus and we are still investigating the cause, origin, and effects. We cannot for sure say if it originated in the lower levels of Garganta, nor can we conclusively state that it has caused the recent surge in suicide attempts, and we certainly cannot risk any employee carrying these false notions to the outside world.

My team continues to work on decoding the virus, and on developing a vaccine. Your team must start controlling the narrative.**

for the most part though the logs we were given in r4 here are from the time they didnt know much about it.

Even with such minimal risk, let us assure you that we have the highest quality medical staff at hand to deal with any issues you may face.
There is nowhere on earth you can be better taken care of than here with your Santonian family.
While the NAM-V virus is still new to us and we have much to learn about it, any claims that the virus can cause depression, self-harm, or any disturbing psychotic episodes are misleading and incorrect. You have nothing to fear from the NAM-V.

[winter oracle]

Yeah...but..no origin, no 4 weeks, yna

[eternal talon]

for the life of me, i am desparately trying to find the log with the santonain workers

[winter oracle]

A'm pointing that we've got complete info about NAMV in R8

[eternal talon]

most was r6-r7 actually.

r8 didnt really give us much of anything

[winter oracle]

4 weeks and any surface?

It was known prior r8?

[eternal talon]

the virus can also survive for several weeks while airborne or on surfaces. r7

[winter oracle]

Yeah, it the SAME log

Damn, devs are lazy

R7 60F-056-HNK and 60F-056-HNK...

[eternal talon]

In my control tests, subjects exposed to locations that had been contaminated up to 4 weeks prior to exposure still contracted the virus. This was also true of subjects immersed in various solutions (I tried fresh water, salt water and several synthetic oils and polymers). 85% of the subjects contracted the virus within a few hours. The remaining 15% who survived other exposure methods contracted the virus when exposed to a vaporous environment heavily dosed with infected fomites.

[winter oracle]

Why devs include same logs

I've read it

My point is now, why they include same logs

Damn

[eternal talon]

because this is gtfo? it is made complicated and confusing on purpose

almost all of alt// is slightly changed or identical logs

[winter oracle]

still, I'm 100% sure that nam-v can be on surface of syringe

or nam-v can be on surface of our clothes

and y'now, injection + containment clothing/ needle

[eternal talon]

it can, it can be on the surface of anything, but thats not what we are talking about. nam-v and the infection syringes are different.

[winter oracle]

nah, you're sound like nay sayer

[eternal talon]

if that was the case just picking up the syringe would give infection

if nam-v was infection, you would start every level and be at max in seconds

[winter oracle]

hsu clears infection

[eternal talon]

but doesnt reverse its damage. nam-v mutates your cells like a cancer

[winter oracle]

Yeah, but if you have damaged lung

[eternal talon]

eventually it would kill you, even with hydrostasis use

[winter oracle]

You will cough

[eternal talon]

a damaged lung is easier to repair than one that is fundamntally changed. that is why cancer still has no cure irl. you cant treat it like that

all it is is mutations that change the fundamnetal structure of those cells

[winter oracle]

wait wait

Let's pretend that namv that everywhere

i'm repeating that maybe 100h time

[eternal talon]

its not pretending but sure

[winter oracle]

On the surface of the syringe

You will get infected with it

for sure

Also, Schaeffer

[eternal talon]

i mean you are jabbing it into you. obviously it'd transmit to you easier that way than skin contact alone

[eternal talon]

schaeffer i disregard because it is fruitless to try and piece together all of the things wrong with his story

[winter oracle]

I really don't understand why people deny that ingame infection is an namv

People were asking "whats infection" since R2

[eternal talon]

its literally been almost two years and we were never given an answer for the schaeffer discrepancy

the devs literally just ingored it.

[winter oracle]

Alright, it seems that I can't be convinced

[eternal talon]

because it is in the syringes. a log i am still struggling to find rn talks about santonian miners using it to break rocks faster and more efficiently, and the log of them shipping them in is 2050, which was before nam-v was even discovered

[winter oracle]

Let's pretend, same as we did for schaeffer

That timing in this game isn't correct

alt connor died 2 times

[eternal talon]

(i agree schaeffer should be dead by now, but that is just one among many plot holes)

[eternal talon]

and like 5 different bishops are dead in alt/r8, whats your point?

[winter oracle]

Someone pointed out that we have connor log that died in alts

[eternal talon]

in alt// alone pre-r8 there were 3 bishops.

the one we play as, the one that owned the ef01 mask, and the corpse in alt//r6cx

aha! i found it.

**>>EBDT FRAGMENT 29FH-011 START

ENC: D-Lock Block Cipher
Sender: CJ Mortimer
Receiver: Scott Weaver
Date: September 25th E$€!
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Syringes

Scott,

I’ve managed to increase the duration of the IIx drug effect – it now improves the user’s fast-twitch muscle power for 8 seconds. As you suggested, it’ll come in handy for occasional mining situations where the cables for the pneumatic tools can’t reach. A miner can just take a hit of the FTF booster syringe and smash the rock with a sledgehammer.

I know if the boost lasted longer it would be more convenient, but there are some ugly side effects that start popping up when I try to extend the duration of the effect. Just tell the miners to use the time well.

Regarding the “Injury Infection Liquid Pharmacon” syringe (“I2-LP” for short), the severity of the side effects are seemingly random and I haven’t found a way to get rid of them. I’ll keep working on it.

CJ

ENC://
EBDT FRAGMENT END**

[winter oracle]

I've said that time in this game is fucked up

[eternal talon]

in a million ways.

[winter oracle]

I don't wanna hunt for dates anymore

[eternal talon]

you know some of the logs are just plain wrong, right?

i've talked to the community manager in the past to get corrections on several logs

[winter oracle]

when did OG schaffer entered hsu?

[eternal talon]

like one mentions garganta being two continents wide

because they said miles instead of meters

[winter oracle]

extra thicc

[eternal talon]

there are almost a dozen examples

[eternal talon]

we dont have an exact date.. but i can give you a range

hold on

[winter oracle]

Damn there is no date

[eternal talon]

the second half of 2056, and the current year is 2063 (we dont know when during the year)

he was woken... looks like some time ~april 2063

at least in the original worldline

[winter oracle]

the first outbreak in garganta happend in 2053

hm...I don't think that schaeffers hsu happend in 56

3 years? They could be dead in 3 years

[eternal talon]

march 2052 to be precise.

[winter oracle]

If Namv is so robust..4 years?

[eternal talon]

he had entered in kds-deep, where the warden goes in r5e1 to access the 24,000 KSOs inside, so it does have power otherwise they'd all be dead

[winter oracle]

I mean

First outbreak 2052

Florida flu 2053 namv

he managed to be uninfected for 4 years in garganta?

[eternal talon]

it reached the surface in feb 2053 and the surface "fell" in april 2057, january 2058 in alt.

[winter oracle]

4 years for huge surface

Compare sizes of garganta and whole planet

With ventilation that can carry infection more efficiently

Oh, we've lost almost a hour on that

I don't feel that we need to waste more time

[tame goblet]

nothign ever happens with the KSO's tho, they're never used

R5 was a black hole in terms of lore. It never led to anything.

[eternal talon]

i mean garganta is pretty fuckin huge

[eternal talon]

(and yes, this looks insanely oversized but these are the actual measurements of garganta)

its like an entire city underground

[eternal talon]

not neccessarily true, we serve as a distraction for another team in r6c3, and again in a later mission i forget.

[burnt wren]

Besides it was just a giant metaphor for influx of v1.0 players

For all we know warden had thousands of squads going all over the place, but we are just not told their stories

[eternal talon]

i have made a new .mp4

[tame goblet]

what was your theory

[eternal talon]

for me it was the allens, but i made this so i have even less to type if someone posts something already correct as a theory

back in ogr6 there was a lot of debate regarding the alines/collectors before it was finally confirmed in r7

[tame goblet]

ALIENS

[eternal talon]

ALLENS WORKED BACK THEN BECAUSE WE DIDNT HAVE A NAME

[burnt wren]

Its a lost battle

[eternal talon]

and the floaters/kraken already are aliens

[eternal talon]

they are officially called collectors. its a dead meme now.

[tame goblet]

did we even find out what they are or their purpose?

the kraken things

[burnt wren]

Nope.

Final form of sleepers, i suppose?

Their one final true mutation.

[tame goblet]

AMAZING thank you 10cc

[eternal talon]

some i know theorize them as like aircraft carriers for the floaters

but i honestly have no idea. just giant mutated fish

[tame goblet]

ok but what are the floaters then lol

[eternal talon]

they are closest related to hybrids iirc

[burnt wren]

Infected fauna from another world and or / timeline

[eternal talon]

also infected alien life

[burnt wren]

For all we know it could be just fucking earth 1000 years down the line

Bored from loneliness the parasite started evolving into random ass shit

[eternal talon]

earth isnt in the butterfly nebula last i checked

lel

[tame goblet]

why were we in the butterfly neb tho, why were the data cubes set with those co-ordinates?

[eternal talon]

idk, ask the collectors.

[burnt wren]

Another nothing burger

[burnt wren]

Nothing is explained, nothing is elaborated

Gameplay and going to random places goes brrrrrrrrrrrt

[eternal talon]

200+ logs, an ocean wide, a puddle deep

[tame goblet]

GTFO LORE ISN'T FULL OF HOLES

EVERYTHING WAS ANSWERED

WELL DONE 10CC

[eternal talon]

then you get the arg logs and people's minds break.
oh, not at the contents, at just trying to fuckin' read them

[tame goblet]

wtf is an arg log

[burnt wren]

Have we ever figured out the fucking booming signal?

[eternal talon]

Original text:

MzcgMzcgMjAgMzggMzQgMjAgMzkgMzkgMjAgMzEgMzAgMzMgMjAgMzcgMzcgMjAgMzggMzQgMjAgMzcgMzcgMjAgMzEgMzAgMzMgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzYgMzggMjAgMzggMzEgMjAgMzEgMzEgMzcgMjAgMzcgMzcgMjAgMzEgMzAgMzYgMjAgMzYgMzkgMjAgMzEgMzIgMzAgMjAgMzcgMzMgMjAgMzYgMzcgMjAgMzQgMzggMjAgMzEgMzIgMzIgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzEgMzIgMzEgMjAgMzYgMzUgMjAgMzEgMzEgMzkgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzEgMzAgMzUgMjAgMzYgMzUgMjAgMzEgMzIgMzAgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzggMzMgMjAgMzUgMzIgMjAgMzUgMzMgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzYgMzUgMjA

Base64 Decode output:

37 37 20 38 34 20 39 39 20 31 30 33 20 37 37 20 38 34 20 37 37 20 31 30 33 20 37 38 20 36 38 20 38 31 20 31 31 37 20 37 37 20 31 30 36 20 36 39 20 31 32 30 20 37 33 20 36 37 20 34 38 20 31 32 32 20 37 38 20 31 32 31 20 36 35 20 31 31 39 20 37 38 20 31 30 35 20 36 35 20 31 32 30 20 37 38 20 38 33 20 35 32 20 35 33 20 37 38 20 36 35 20

Decode output with 20 as a divider:

37 37
38 34
39 39
31 30 33
37 37
38 34
37 37
31 30 33
37 38
36 38
38 31
31 31 37
37 37
31 30 36
36 39
31 32 30
37 33
36 37
34 38
31 32 32
37 38
31 32 31
36 35
31 31 39
37 38
31 30 35
36 35
31 32 30
37 38
38 33
35 32
35 33
37 38
36 35

3X converted to just X and combined into decimals:

77 84 99 103 77 84 77 103 78 68 81 117 77 106 69 120 73 67 48 122 78 121 65 119 78 105 65 120 78 83 52 53 78 65

Combined into decimals converted to ASCII:

MTcgMTMgNDQuMjExIC0zNyAwNiAxNS45NA

Base64 Decode output with new ASCII text:

17 13 44.211 -37 06 15.94

this is an arg log.
pain

AWWWW THEY REMOVED THE PIN FOR THE UNSOLVED ARG LOG WHY

[royal crow]

maybe because it doesnt matter anymore?

lol

[eternal talon]

its still unsolved though

[royal crow]

we probably already got the answer to that

one way or another

[eternal talon]

no, and apparently mods removed the pin

so i doubt anybody will even find it

[tame goblet]

co-ordinates?

[eternal talon]

i dont know how far back in the chat it is lol

[eternal talon]

to destination, yeah.

started as a jumbled mess and took an obsurd amount of work to solve

[tame goblet]

so you solved it?

ah

And that goes to the butterfly nebula?

[eternal talon]

not me, god no. i'm not anywhere near that good at cryptography. it took the entire community over a week. i just figured out the first step in base64 because i was familiar with it already

[eternal talon]

yeah, if you go to this log on the wiki it links to the wikipedia page

@rich blaze figured the last step out regarding coords

[lilac island]

Do you need spefici terminals for logs or any

Why is gen auto status absolutely everywhere

[loud urchin]

because it's just typical information on the system a la msinfo32 in windows

[lilac island]

but it's stupid

[lilac island]

ok wait about that whole log where a woman has her fetus mutated by namv

she woke up and the baby is there on the sheets

but then she says it's still in there?

did she have twins i guess

poor susan

it gets worse

[broken oriole]

KDS defences VS Warden security systems, which one is superior?? 🤔

[eternal talon]

Warden because it controls biocom which controls kds defenses

[finite vine]

KDS built BIOCOM so they essentially built the warden

[warm root]

The Warden wasn't built, I wouldn't say

[spark field]

As Above, So Below 🤔

[cloud kite]

Is warden Alien Origin AI or KDS made AI?

[royal crow]

Alien

[warm valley]

I wonder if this was initially flooded, I dont know if those are just dust particles but you can notice on the far rocks how there are sort of sediments. Atmosphere still seems intact considering the blue ozone layer which is seen, but the planet is devoid of flora afaik, so the ozone layer might have thinned out or a cataclysmic event occurred regarding the waters

[rose dragon]

Can I find the whole lore of gtfo explained?

[coral gorge]

Theres a document pinned in this channel

[burnt wren]

Excuse me...
Just found the log 000-000-000 in R2B2.
Are they serious with this?
I've been holding ENTER for a minute now.

[harsh saffron]

Good thing you don't actually need to read it

[royal crow]

theres like 32thousand lines of text

in that log

🫃

[lilac island]

How much is known on the Collectors? From the “lore for dummies” doc it says that they seem to be multi species/dimensions as different genetic material is found between specimens found.

[burnt wren]

Unfortunately very little. We only know that they are inter-dimensional, as they not only know of multiverse but can interact with it.

[lilac island]

Damn they seem really cool. I wonder if they got wiped out from the virus

[clear furnace]

I wonder if the krackens are what the collectors once were

[lilac island]

I feel like the kraken is just some infected alien wildlife like some type of large animal but not a Collector

[clear furnace]

makes you wonder then what a kraken is doing on Earth in R8E2

that big hole probably leads directly leads to the alien ship if I had to guess

[eternal talon]

my thought on it is that it was simply teleported with the rest of the destination stuff during the worldline collapse

also given the tunnels are slightly larger than human size, no way a kraken would fit in the ship

[clear furnace]

Or maybe it was there for much longer, my first thought when I saw it was that it was the origin of NAM-V on Earth

[eternal talon]

we really dont know enough to say either way.

[clear furnace]

which is a shame

would love to know what a Kracken is doing on Earth

[eternal talon]

also i think (but could be wrong, its been a while since i ran through it) that the terrain in that arena is identical to that of r6d1 on destination

[clear furnace]

I dont thinks its identical but very similar for sure

I could go back with full bright and see for sure

[coral gorge]

Imagine being a kraken just chilling and suddenly you’re in a cave

guess not much would change you’d still be chilling

[eternal talon]

a cavern more like. that room is fucking huge

[eternal talon]

continues to eternally suffer

[clear furnace]

You know I remeber a log saying how KDS Deep was the largest excavation. There is no way that is true there are plenty of rooms in GTFO larger than KDS I feel

[coral gorge]

Well id imagine we dont see the full size of KDS

like the amount of like wires and such must be insane

[eternal talon]

well keep in mind kds-deep is bigger than just this room, its an entire wing of the facility

biocom is also housed there, (though we never go find it)

[coral gorge]

in R8E1 we can see a decent portion of what space KDS once took

and that is a big room

[coral gorge]

oh really?

guess i never really wondered where does bioc actually is stored

[eternal talon]

and biocom was such a big machine previously took up an entire aircraft hangar before kds-deep was excavated

[coral gorge]

Ngl i wish we got to see how it looks like

Even a part of it

[eternal talon]

**Mr. Johanson,

We expect to have most of the equipment moved from the Belarus facility to storage hangar 3 by next week. We will begin BIOCOM
installation in hangar 4 immediately after. Once it is up and running the pods can be safely moved into the new storage space.
We will have space for 8,000 pods by December, and a further 24,000 by March 2052. At your discretion, the first KSOs
should be ready for deployment by the start of 2052. The Sigma and Tau generations are currently being coded for Garganta
security operations.**

[coral gorge]

i cannot imagine how much planning and resources moving biocom took

[eternal talon]

my thought is something like SIVA in destiny

probably badass looking

[coral gorge]

yeah

[finite vine]

I thought we went to biocom in r7?

to put the trojan in

[eternal talon]

no, just one server room.

henri mentions it a mission or two before, while they were still planning

[finite vine]

damn that’s a pretty insane server room lol

[royal crow]

do you still play Destiny?

[eternal talon]

Not in a very long time now. Moved to warframe mostly in 2018

[royal crow]

oh wow

i dont know whats worse

destiny or warframe

[eternal talon]

wdym? warframe is about 10,000 times better

entirely free and with devs that actually make good content

[royal crow]

it takes 50 years from average life expectancy

[royal crow]

the devs are so cool they once let me play with them

🙏

[lilac island]

Warframe is great, also linking the two, is the Kraken one life form or maybe it’s a large biomass of different things like the infested (or halo Gravemind)

[coral gorge]

Kraken seems to be one lifefotm from what we see

[royal crow]

yes

hello Robert

[coral gorge]

also when the fuck do we do B4 again

[royal crow]

tomorrow

same time as always

[dull orchid]

someone should make a movie about gtfo lore

would be dope

hahaha

[spark field]

Did I understand correctly that the complex is the interior of the alien ship?

[burnt wren]

No, the complex is human made. Much unfortunately we never get to see The Inner.

[spark field]

So the complex is attached to the ship?

[burnt wren]

Maybe. It was built on top of it by accident and later the ship's exploration became complex' defacto primary objective, albeit exceptionally classified.

[spark field]

Okay. and the babies in the capsules were other aliens, right? That are not related to the Collectors right?

[burnt wren]

Which babies? The neonates that we carry everywhere?

[spark field]

yes

[burnt wren]

Not even aliens. Artificial humanoids, created by scientists in the complex as a potential replacement for us. Not clones or anything - straight up built from scratch.

[spark field]

ah okay. Because I read that the Collectors took other species from other planets. That's why I thought the babies were some.

[drowsy roost]

Lots and lots of data with not much in it... https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/000-000-000

Really minor but in the attached lore for dummies the line:
ALT//R4: United States government collapses and is replaced by the "Liberty Sentinel."
Liberty Sentinel was a newspaper which published it's last article after the collapse of the US gov.

[eternal talon]

arg, that went unnoticed for the past several revisions

damnit

[drowsy roost]

Thankfully pretty minor in the general scheme of things

[coral gorge]

R8 did give us some extra lore on europes state right?

unless we take the log from nightmare wordline as a thing that didnt happen in the ALT, OG, and R8 wordlines

[warm root]

Would love to see more of the nightmare worldline

[drowsy roost]

Eeeep

[eternal talon]

We will never know.

[eternal talon]

10cc has a habit of dropping things that are really cool, and not flushing them out until the next rundown to become a staple. Too bad there isn't a next rundown in this case.

[fresh gyro]

Rip

[eternal talon]

7-alt-8, they only appear in like 2% of levels, if that, and will forever stick out like a sore thumb.

[fresh gyro]

It's more than 2%

It's like

6

[eternal talon]

How many levels are there total, 85?

[fresh gyro]

I think

[eternal talon]

Also are they in every r8 level?

[fresh gyro]

No

A1

Does b1 have them?

Idr

Idts

But

[eternal talon]

B1 should, iirc it's the first long-term (relatively speaking) jump

[fresh gyro]

Wait no I'm trolling

B1 is the introduction

So I think just a1 doesn't have them?

Maybe d1

[eternal talon]

It's just 85 / number of levels with them

Them you'd get ?/85 then convert to decimal/percentage

[fresh gyro]

Other way around

[unborn cloak]

which rundown is it that has the log of speciman 22 talking to schaeffer

can someone link that ><

[fresh gyro]

R6?

[eternal talon]

Alt//r6, also I assume you mean the conduit. Iirc we don't know it's number

[unborn cloak]

yee the conduit

[eternal talon]

Only u22 I know was the one metal pipe'd by og schaeff in r6ex

[fresh gyro]

Wait the one in alt r6 is what number

[eternal talon]

(At work, gonna have to be you)

[fresh gyro]

Augh

[eternal talon]

Damnit, there is no gif for they've got me at the laundry and they are going to kill me
Was gonna do a breaking bad reference

[fresh gyro]

:P

[harsh saffron]

Him talking to 22 is in og r6c2 and other schaeffer talking to the collectors through the conduit is alt r6d1

[fresh gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-get-real-gif-21323382

[eternal talon]

That one is only audio though over intel, no actual text log

[harsh saffron]

Which one?

[eternal talon]

Er do you mean...

There are two of him trying to talk to it in r6c~, one where he actually has a conversation and kills it in r6dx

"it can't be one of us -- next time I see it I'm going to kill it"

are you a dog or a cat person?

Yada yada

Just copy paste them all in here, that's what I always do

Just with bold so people reading know what is log quotes

[harsh saffron]

I meant the actual audio log in c2 because that's the first one but yeah cx and dx also have them

[eternal talon]

Cx doesn't, that's cacophony of speech

Just nonsense

[harsh saffron]

Cx has one. The one with really awkward long pauses

Left side of schaeffers hideout zone

[eternal talon]

Really? When? I know COS was right at the very end

[harsh saffron]

Not current bx btw, just to be clear

[eternal talon]

Hideout... wasn't that him talking about finding a squad and mentioning some of our names?

[eternal talon]

Yep, I am using old lingo too

[harsh saffron]

Yup, the zone to the left where you turn off the light had the one I mean

One sec

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_6.0_Logs#T43-777-45M
That one

[warm root]

Feels like that's going to be the case with their next game 😔

[eternal talon]

Gtfo was their first game as an indie studio and it exploded, only time will tell if they can recreate that pocket success in a new niche

I do think though jumping from niche to niche is a very interesting way to make games that I haven't seen before. They basically have no competition in the fields they enter, but their maximum player base is significantly restricted due to the niche nature of them

It's a very "hit or die" approach

For examples, look at Dead By Daylight for a hit example, and Monstrum 2 for a dead example. Two games in the same niche yet wildly different outcomes

[coarse canyon]

It was Schaeffer, in the Laboratory with the Pipe

[drowsy roost]

So lore question —

1. The meteor was actually an alien craft, and that craft is referred to as "the inner". Or at least, the cavity created when it crashed became the inner and the craft was found within it.
2. Was the alien craft the same aliens as "The Collectors" or do we have reason to believe it was a different alien race? The reason I asked is that QSW-EQW-S99 mentions the creatures that were discovered "were not from same evolutionary tree" — which would imply the craft was collecting specimens and just crashed. This is kind of in line with our understanding that the Collector's were collecting the virus...
3. If the Collector's are the owners of the crashed ship — that would imply MVP and other artefacts were how the Collector's were able to travel inter-dimensionally.

[coral gorge]

pretty sure the ship was infact a collector ship

also MWP was not onboard the alien ship as it was made by scientists by reverse engineering the artifacts im pretty sure

[drowsy roost]

Yeah I think you're right. The artifacts is likely the shiny black rocks and similar — and they added some human-built chassis around it to stop people teleporting around the place. explains why the data cubes and MVP are human looking.

[formal ember]

Is there a lore reason why the data cubes are in fact, not cubes 😔

[harsh saffron]

They are called datablocks in logs instead of cubes, so no idea

[formal ember]

reference to the game files??

[harsh saffron]

the deepest lore

[drowsy roost]

At least a data sphere is a sphere...

[toxic wagon]

It will always be dauda sphere to me

[eternal talon]

It was on the ship, insight just made the shell

[drowsy roost]

@eternal talon Do you think the ship was from the The Collectors?

[eternal talon]

Yes.

[drowsy roost]

Good enough for me 😆

[lilac island]

i realized

the warden isn't a nickname

it's literally called that

HUD commands

[drowsy roost]

Yeah, the program is called WDRN

[lilac island]

no

"//:END OF WARDEN TRANSMITION"

It is literally called the warden

i know the file name is wrdn

but the full warden name isn't a nickname

the ai calls itself warden

[lethal cloud]

wow! so observant!

[formal ember]

if the file name is wrdn wouldnt it make it's name 'Wrdn' and then the nickname would be 'warden'

[wary portal]

Question

If the warden really wanted to help

Why did we remove the control chip

Or are we just saying "ya all sons of bitches and suck it i am getting the fuck out i dont care what ya freaks want"

[austere radish]

IIRC, the OG team was suspicious of the warden and it's motives, hence them removing the control chip. The ALT team was the ones that trusted that the warden wanted to help

[lilac island]

what level do you mean

before r8 we stopped listening to the warden because of ignorance

we wanted out, we didn't really know that outside was dead

staying in the complex is just purposeless torture

[wary portal]

OG team

OG said "fuck all of it"

[wary portal]

C2 downwards

[lilac island]

ok so OG team realizes scheaffer (og) is off his fucking rocker

and decide just ya know what fuck this twat

and that's why

they don't wanna follow a lunatic and help him destroy the complex

the stop following the warden to go with scheaffer, cuz they want out

then shceaffer goes crazy tryin to destroy everything

then they stop following scheaffer because they hear this other shceaffer who has a plan over the comms

It's either continue being tortured, commit mass suicide, or try to get out

and obviously they choose the 3rd one

[wary portal]

i get it that they dont give a shit about schaefer

but why also screwing over warden

[lilac island]

they didnt

i mean they don't understand that the warden is trying to help anyway so

[austere radish]

They did end up GTFOing, for better or worse, which was kind of the Warden's goal in a way?

The enemy of my enemy can still realistically be my enemy as well though

[lilac island]

the warden was trying to help all along

as far as i know its plan was to evacuate humans into a clean membrane so we did do what the warden wanted

remember, ALT sch works for the warden and he's the one that puts the whole GTFO plan in motion

it was scuffed because OG scheaffer is an piece of shit

and there was a nuclear meltdown occurring in the complex while the plan was happening

im still unsure of what in the actual hell some of the missions were doing

and also why on gods green earth the warden doesn't communicate about its plan openly if its trying to help

the reason our 4 guys went with scheaffer was because they were under a misconception that there was an escape

[austere radish]

It seems like the Warden isn't able to communicate directly with the prisoners very well, hence it creating the creatures that Shaeffer encountered

[lilac island]

that's just stupid

it can beam instructions into our HUDs and our visors

it can write out a plan for us to read and understand

[austere radish]

Those instructions feel like things from Biocom that are repurposed for the warden to me

[lilac island]

it doesn't need barely human zombies to tell us "hey guys here is what's going on"

oh wait right biocom

forgot that existed

uuuhhh

[austere radish]

It also doesn't help that hydrostasis is (seemingly) the only way to stave off the virus, which results in barely human zombies when they wake up

[lilac island]

it seems that you can indeed stave off the virus fine if you are extreme

and also my not shitting theory is correct btw

AKK-3XW-EEB r8c1

"I haven't removed my gel mask in 2 years"

hydrostasis keeps you fed

lmfaoo

[austere radish]

Well, hydrostasis does alot of magical things to keep people suspended (originally for space travel)

No need for food, water, or oxygen as the person is considered dead, but can be resuscitated whenever needed

Stops cellular decay, and also somehow accidentally kills NAM-V at the same time

[lilac island]

yes but it also fills u with nutrients otherwise you would simply get hungrier and hungrier over time as you spend time awake

i still dont know if it kills namv

i dont buy it

[austere radish]

Eh, the HSU wiki page says that it kills the Pathogen, and given that's filled out from logs, that's the most concrete proof of the thing available

[lilac island]

yeah i still aint buyin it

i don't trust that those logs are telling the truth

not deliberate lies but the information isn't reliable

they haven't done no study on it

[warm root]

Don't forget the HSU causes short and long term side effects. I wouldn't want to go into one after knowing the risks

[austere radish]

At some point I think you have to trust the narrator available, since there isn't any other source of truth

[lilac island]

the reason i dont buy it is that in r8 alt scheaffer says that "You're clean, but you wont stay that way if you interact with staff"

which doesn't connect

because if you weren't clean you could just cure yourself by getting in it

but clearly it's a big deal if you catch the virus so therefore the hsu isnt a solution

[austere radish]

I reckon Schaeffer doesn't know exactly when the team will be able to enter HSUs if at all before they MWP and GTFO. I'd be panicking in his situation too, given all of the alerts about nuclear meltdown

[lilac island]

if the start to each level is canon

we HSU after every mission even in r8

devs should have thought about it idk what to say

even after pulling out the chips we go in hsus and wake up for the next

[austere radish]

All good homie, definitely not going to change your mind

[lilac island]

have the devs ever answered questions about lore

this seems like a decent question about dev intent

are the starts of missions canon after we disobey warden and scheaffer or is this just a limitation

[eternal talon]

3 problems.

1. it collects the virus, not us so would have no reason to help us

2. us going to a clean worldline wouldn't be to save us, it would be to infect a new worldline for them to study

3. the warden gave alt//schaeffer the wrong coordinates, og team had to go get the correct ones from the insight labs

[eternal talon]

It really doesn't seem like it is trying to help, more so get rid of us.

But that's just my opinion

[lilac island]

what do you mean that the warden collects the virus

and when did we got given wrong coords

number 2 is the funny because canonically we're clean

even tho NO

if it was trying to rid of us that's just

[lilac island]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304845361409818625/1065927373129781248/ess84.gif

if the warden wanted to get rid of us all it had to do was cut the power

HSUs die

no vessels no nothing

[eternal talon]

I mean realistically post OG disabling their chips there is no possible way they'd return to hydrostasis for level end/start -- as they'd just turn out like Maddox with nobody waking them up

Brain slushies

[lilac island]

yeah

maybe shceaffer is waking them up, i don't know

[eternal talon]

I've @ them in the past to get clarifications and fixes on typos and such in logs.

[lilac island]

..and?

[eternal talon]

That's what the collectors say word for word.

[lilac island]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1032997798364332064/1176904798889586728/catgun_small.gif?ex=65709101&is=655e1c01&hm=0b90ba5413b23479923e3d9eae0d3ccea49378ef96791d6ef8ac1e95acf07f17&

aaaaaaaaaaa

[eternal talon]

In r8 we have to (as og) Get coordinates for the worldline in the insight lab to give to the alt// team. The coords in the data cubes alt//schaeffer and the alt//team were given were NOT for the clean one we find as og, the only one even listed as such

[lilac island]

when were they given them

[eternal talon]

Eh, at the start of the level when he says that we would technically be but by the end of it we'd be infected fully again.

[warm root]

So was there another reason og team wanted the data cubes from alt team besides unlocking the security door (which they didn't)

[lilac island]

yeah to just get the fuck out of the complex

[eternal talon]

Idk what to say. Probably was worried about alt//schaeffer turning out like og schaeffer and disabling the warden -- given it knows what happened in og. All wardens can communicate

[lilac island]

that was a lie

[warm root]

[lilac island]

OG lied to get the cubes, then OG used them just to leave

i'm not sure why they didnt wait

[eternal talon]

And by that time schaeffer in alt had already broken free so disabling hsus then and there wouldn't really do anything

[eternal talon]

Which schaeffer? I don't think alt knew about us, given og schaeffer was threatening to tell them about us and our status

[lilac island]

og

oh wait by the end OG is just dead

[eternal talon]

Calle the community manager usually gets back to me after a while. If you have a question just ping them and ask it here.

[lilac island]

calle is snobing me

[eternal talon]

We leave it on a table in (I forget the level) that the alt// squad goes and picks up

[lilac island]

not those frosty, the original bad ones that the warden gave

[eternal talon]

(Or maybe a terminal, it's all fuzzy. It's been a while since I played)

[eternal talon]

Yes

[eternal talon]

As am i

But then again we aren't good people

[lilac island]

well yeah

[eternal talon]

From nam-v, yes. Along with that previously clean world

It's a bad ending

[eternal talon]

Idk what that means

[eternal talon]

They were just already in the data cubes. We overwrite them

[lilac island]

no i meant schaeffer is dead

[lilac island]

then how do you know that those were intended to be used by us

[eternal talon]

We kill both schaeffers as the og team

[eternal talon]

Because we wouldn't need to overwrite them if they would just work as is.

That og team level wouldn't exist

And I wouldn't have needed to do the 10 uplink

[lilac island]

no i mean

god it's so hard to correctly communicate

so there were infected worldline coordinates in the data cubes

[eternal talon]

Aha

Yep

[lilac island]

but my question is, did the warden specifically write those coords in those datacubes for scheaffer to use and leave, or was it simply leftover data from some other thing that researchers were doing

because i think it's leftover data

[eternal talon]

We don't know.

Could be either

[lilac island]

my guess is leftover

[eternal talon]

But case in point, the warden didn't give us a heads up

We were just gonna use them

As if it would work out

[lilac island]

what stopped us

[eternal talon]

Og team not trusting warden

[lilac island]

hhm.

[eternal talon]

And wanting to escape with them

Double checking or some such, I don't recall for sure

Because alt went and got the mwp, then they went and got the data cubes, but that was after? og team already was there? I really gotta see the level objectives in order again

Because now I'm just making myself confused

[austere radish]

Pretty sure it's the ALT team that finds MWP in A1, finds Data cubes in B1, degausses (removes the data) in B2, then finds the project insight coordinates in C1

[eternal talon]

Ah, that's right, the degaussing terminals

So og team went and replaced the data they WOULD HAVE FOUND

[austere radish]

Is that what the data sphere in R8B4 is for?

[eternal talon]

Ao that doesn't really much change the question, but it's a step further for the warden trickery

[eternal talon]

I don't remember the level

[warm root]

B4 main is lowering the rods then changed to retrieving the datasphere; secondary is lowering the rods

[coral gorge]

the sphere had the project insight dimension travel data and im pretty sure that is the one the warden was trying to find

[warm root]

Yep, alt Schaeffer mentioned trying to ping the datasphere but "it wasn't where it's supposed to be"

[austere radish]

Yeah, the beginning of C1 is ALT Schaeffer saying they can't find the datasphere which is the one the OG team leaves for the ALT team by the terminal to access Project Insight

[lilac island]

it's so goddamn convoluted

Why did she give birth twice

[coral gorge]

i guess twins?

hard to really tell

unless she literally gave birth to her baby and then a fucking pseudo sleeper

we dont really know how the birther mutation occurs, so i guess its possible the person gives birth to some sorta wretched human-sleeper fetus hyrbid thing

[wary portal]

how did we know we got the wrong coordinates

[eternal talon]

^

[coral gorge]

Eh? I feel like we got the correct cords tho? We get data cubes with random cords, wipe them (B2), put new cords on them (C1) and thats all? Unless theres smth i am missing

[drowsy roost]

Just replaying it now, in B2, Schaeffer says "We need to erase [the datacubes] before we can write new nav components"

[eternal talon]

The coords alt team picks up isn't what was originally there though iirc. It was replaced by what og squad put there

[eternal talon]

^ what Cato posted above seems to support what I remember

[cunning light]

Not exactly.

[eternal talon]

Actual gameplay information incoming?

[drowsy roost]

So, I've quickly replayed a few of these since I was confused to.

ALT team finds the MVP in A1, finds the cubes in B1 and wipes the cubes in B2. In C1, the ALT team starts looking for Datasphere 741, which contains the "archive key" -- which is where to find the coordinates in the Project Insight server farm.

By the time ALT looks for the datasphere in C1, the OG team had already collected it in B4.

[cunning light]

The Datasphere contains the key to unlock the Project Insight archive rooms, in which we find the three nav data components

[eternal talon]

So that seems like a slam dunk for og changing it, what all happened between them taking it and alt getting it?

[drowsy roost]

I don't think they change it, do they?

[cunning light]

OG Team does not alter the data at all

They did not even get access to it

[drowsy roost]

Yeah, they just the open sphere like a can, get put the data on a USB thumb drive, and dump it on a desk somewhere?

To simplify it.

[cunning light]

The "data" they put into the "USB thumb drive" is just the key to unlock the Project Insight Archives. They let the Alt://team deal with that

[drowsy roost]

Indeed, it's basically a whole key hunt to find the right server farm to get the actual data they need...

[eternal talon]

Wasn't the level finding the correct worldline via uplinks in the insight lab?

What prompted us to do that?