Huh? There's a new one?
#gtfo-lore
burnt wren
I 100% that level recently so its probably on the wiki. Didn't see anything interesting.
broken oriole
why did the og squad took 1-2 hrs to get to kds deep while the alt squad’s route only took about 20 mins🤔
warm root
Because alt team went to the wrong kds I’m assuming, or they were just too late
Maybe someone else has a better answer
cold sphinx
Because alt team went to the wrong kds I’m assuming, or they were just too late
they were on different paths
lead by different schaefers
E1 part team was lead to the digs of B1-B2 to dig out and find new cordinates for a better and safer world
E2 as you already guessed it want to burn it all down
and till D1-D2 we see that E2 Schaefer killed E1 version
leading E1 team back into KDS deep
while losing track of E2 team
easy to spot out both teams were doing things
from A1-A2
A1 after the lass II checkpoint
then picking up the MWP
same time as E2 team
drained the cooling tanks
starting the complex's meltdown
toxic wagon
Calling them E1 team and E2 team is a first
toxic wagon
Because alt team went to the wrong kds I’m assuming, or they were just too late
OG Team just Built Different
The funny thing to me is.
They don't seem to know the "other team" is themselves
royal crow
They don't seem to know the "other team" is themselves
i think both of them dont know
they are themselves
royal crow
why did the og squad took 1-2 hrs to get to kds deep while the alt squad’s route...
OG team was deployed first then ALT team
also 2 different routes
royal crow
OG team was deployed first then ALT team
it seems the most logical reason to me
probably while the OG team made they way throught caused something that deployed ALT team
toxic wagon
for some reason No one seems to remember Schaeffers talking about how which team is infected and which is not
burnt wren
for some reason No one seems to remember Schaeffers talking about how which team...
Was that R8C2 by any chance? Because it's hard to hear what he screams while fighting a horde
burnt wren
I mean... He just says he doesn't know.
But for some reasons he assumes that our lads arent.
ANd there are logs around describing the survivors who isolated themselves in the facility. Which is okay, fine..
But like COME ON. You're telling me all these sleepers everywhere are not spreading it?
How many times per mission do we get bitten? Like a dozen?
cunning light
Real chads don't get hurt.
grave quest
important question
when durant left gargante he knew about the spreeding of the nam-v?
solar nova
when durant left gargante he knew about the spreeding of the nam-v?
I believe so.
NAM-V is very early in the timeline
MWP shenanigans are quite late.
shrewd sky
Hi, i have a question. I completed R8E2 today and when we escaped and landed on the surface there was a message. I dont remember what exactly he said but it was something with "you entered a restricted area", anyone knows who could send this message?
loud urchin
Kevin Durant and his team
They managed to MWP themselves to that planet before namv got really out of hand and started chilling on that planet, free from the virus
shrewd sky
so its not earth?
loud urchin
Earth is where the complex is and isn't in a very good state from what logs say
clear shale
so its not earth?
we don't actually know
it could be earth, it could be somewhere else
all we know is it ain't in our timeline
loud urchin
I think it's confirmed that it's another planet
royal crow
we don't actually know
||its jungle planet||
loud urchin
@grave quest schaeffer and other stuff, wasted potential for more interactions in r8
grave quest
Yeah
Totally agree
I would like to have a talk with alt
About the plans
Or discover more about the warden
clear shale
what is it
cobalt mulch
to me it felt like an r6c3 "delay the players and add more mobs to basic error" kinda deal
warm root
What exactly is R8E1 secondary doing lore wise
Prob releases floodgate and it affects E2's surge timer? Just a wild guess
half thistle
So, I'm curious if I'm understanding this lore log right, because it's a bit confusing and information dense with a lot of confusing wording
Is Stokes, to put it simply, saying that if a wave from a different dimension "b" were to clash with a wave from another, seperate dimension "c" and create a superposition "bc" which is identical to a superposition in dimension "a", the MWP would be able to latch onto this moment of identicallity and utilize it to hop from dimension "a" to either dimension "b" or "c"?
This can also cause things to "collide" if I understand correctly, since these moments of superposition cause the dimensions to occupy an identical point at the same time, which can result in things such as artifacts merging or Bishop getting enmashed into just a mask while another Bishop returns safely, or on a larger scale cause an entire two timelines to merge?
cold sphinx
What exactly is R8E1 secondary doing lore wise
directing the generators for emergency warp gate power up
considering the GEN_DIRECT command
broken oriole
directing the generators for emergency warp gate power up
but what does the reactor do in r8e2's secondary?
royal crow
but what does the reactor do in r8e2's secondary?
gives power to enter KDS deep
without it theres no way to enter
crystal tide
whats the new pass for ||A2||
royal crow
idk man
frozen crescent
what happened to klaas hendrikson
where did he go
Guys I get it now, I'm gonna write a quick summary of it. (SPOILER ALERT)
R1: The prisoners enter the complex for the first time and are unaware of any circumstances. The warden tells them to do certain objectives, which allows the prisoners to grow as people and to grow their skills.
R2: Introduced E Tier level in order to stress test the prisoner's rate of growth and if they successfully capture the stolen baby in the form of a neonate they may move on to the next rundown.
R3: The prisoners groom the stolen baby in order to make the Warden and his Wife happy. By the end of R3B2 the enemy mother has taken notice and decided to attempt to retrieve the baby, however she failed, as such the grandmother R3D1 had to intervene.
R4: The prisoners meet Schaeffer in B1, who tells them to meet him in E1 if they are worthy. Upon finding out that the prisoners roughly spent 2h52m to arrive at the designated location, Schaeffer leaves a message behind which tells them that he moved on by virtue of his own skills.
R5: The prisoners are chasing after Schaeffer and have to unlock KDS DEEP in order to recruit allies to hunt Schaeffer. He is proving to be a very elusive man.
R6: Schaeffer goes haywire and injects one of the KDS DEEP members with a powerful mutant syringe, which in turns creates the flying taco monster seen in D1.
R7: Schaeffer realized the error of his ways and freed his buddy Hendrikson. Schaeffer and Hendrikson then tell the prisoners to improve their alien hunting skills by sending them to a ERROR ALARM in R7D2. After completion Hendrikson gets angry about his hacking and distorts into a new enemy called the CHAD. The CHAD is obsessed with finding the prisoners and so he tracks them down constantly.
R8: Schaffer forgot to cage the biomasses because the intended risk was to be very low, but in actuality it was far more strenuous than the final test in R8E2. As such Schaeffer realized that he had to help the prisoners and flooded his alter ego in D2. In the end he betrayed his fellow countryman in order to terrorize the complex and the warden. The warden survived and sent the prisoners out of the complex because their minds and bodies were ready for the real world.
eternal talon
R5: The prisoners are chasing after Schaeffer and have to unlock KDS DEEP in ord...
uhh.... this is very very wrong
also you don't need spoiler warnings in this channel
heady crescent
are you sure?
eternal talon
are you sure?
which part? if talking about spoiler warnings, absolutely.
gentle minnow
ok then FRosty explain R8 go
heady crescent
im talking about the lore being wrong
cause playing through the game
thats what i got
gentle minnow
i honestly really didnt understand the ending other than I was outside
heady crescent
rick is right
frozen crescent
Schaffer forgot to cage the biomasses because the intended risk was to be very low, but in actuality it was far more strenuous than the final test in R8E2. As such Schaeffer realized that he had to help the prisoners and flooded his alter ego in D2. In the end he betrayed his fellow countryman in order to terrorize the complex and the warden. The warden survived and sent the prisoners out of the complex because their minds and bodies were ready for the real world.
@gentle minnow
eternal talon
ok then FRosty explain R8 go
r8 is simply the 🍝 merging of the two primary worldlines (and others) because of the repeated misuse of the matter wave projector. Our original wants to destroy the facility and escape as he always has, ALT// schaeffer, being tricked by the warden, is attempting to "escape" to a "clean" worldline. Our OG squad kills one (or both) schaeffers, tricks the alt// squad into giving them their data cubes and leaves them behind to go to the actual clean worldline, infecting it in the proccess and leaving us with a bad ending. as for the alt// team, they die terrified and alone in the pit left behind from the kds-deep teleport.
sudden quarry
this is a VERY GOOD theory Rick
sudden quarry
its open to interpretation Rick
frozen crescent
like when SCHAEFFER said
sudden quarry
🙂
sudden quarry
oh true
frozen crescent
because we beat r4e1
gentle minnow
r8 is simply the 🍝 merging of the two primary worldlines (and others) because o...
how do u know this clean worldline got INFECTED
eternal talon
how do u know this clean worldline got INFECTED
because of one of three reasons.
- our squad is infected after the sleeper infested mess that is e2.
- some of the KSOs in hydrostasis in the segment of KDS-DEEP we brought with us were class-F infected.
- the ruins of KDS-DEEP itself was thoroughly infested and completely covered in nam-v particulates.
as can be expected by dauda's research and that of the WHO/CDC, all it would take is a single particulate to doom an entire world given the tenacity and longevity of the virus. It can survive for weeks on surfaces and can transmit via every possible method, and in every environment except the vaccum of space because there is literally nothing to transmit through. Even without sleepers, like the OG worldline, the surface of that world will eventually be wiped out by the virus and be left lifeless.
eternal talon
because of one of three reasons.
1) our squad is infected after the sleeper inf...
1 could be debatable, 2 and 3 are not.
frozen crescent
B4 was a more sleeper infested mess than e2
eternal talon
B4 was a more sleeper infested mess than e2
true, but any exposure is enough. without our repeated entry into hydrostasis, we would be long dead by now given the places we are sent by the warden.
eternal talon
HSU = prolongs infection time
no, hydrostasis simply kills everything that enters it. (including you.) would you like me to send you the relavant data?
heady crescent
wait sleeper infested mess in e2? theres no infection
gentle minnow
i thought we come out of HSUs
eternal talon
**The breakthrough that Kovac Research hopes will answer these questions
is called Hydrostasis - a process that allows humans to be held in a
state of suspended animation for weeks, months, even years at a time
without suffering any ill-effects. The nuts and bolts of the process
are a closely guarded secret, but sources speculate that the procedure
likely uses a synthetic amniotic fluid to sustain and protect the body
while it is in an induced comatose state. In this state, the body is -
for all intents and purposes - dead, but no cell deterioration or
physical decay occurs. For the human in Hydrostasis, the heart, and
time, stops.
Hydrostasis is not without its critics. Many have decried Kovac
Research's tendency to gloss over the problems found in the recently
completed first human trials - namely that participants have suffered
some neural degradation and “minor” memory loss. There have also been
questions raised about who Kovac Research is using for the human
trials, with some suggesting that participation may not be entirely
voluntary.
These issues notwithstanding, Hydrostasis appears to offer a potential
solution that may unlock the conundrum of extended space travel.
Beyond that, the medical world could use such technology in the field
of emergency and combat trauma, with
[Encryption checksum mismatch. Contact your IT administrator]**
eternal talon
i thought we come out of HSUs
we do. the above log snippet covers how it works roughly.
frozen crescent
so why can i sprint and bunnyhop after potentially being in a coma for years
eternal talon
wait sleeper infested mess in e2? theres no infection
the green mist and "infection" cured by disinfect packs and stations is not nam-v.
we know this because it is also present in the syringes (i forget the technical name of them) that are shipped in from offsite.
it is likely some kind of poison or toxin in the air.
eternal talon
so why can i sprint and bunnyhop after potentially being in a coma for years
i wouldn't really call it a coma, and we aren't in it for years. i'd say a few days to weeks between missions at most. for the user in hydrostasis, entering and exiting would feel instantanious
heady crescent
the green mist and "infection" cured by disinfect packs and stations is not nam-...
but my health bar doesnt have a green bar above it in e2
gentle minnow
tbh bad ending
eternal talon
but my health bar doesnt have a green bar above it in e2
that infection is not nam-v, as i said above.
eternal talon
tbh bad ending
it is indeed. we go through all that effort to get to a clean worldline only to end up infecting it.
heady crescent
who is nam-v? is it like nam (vietnam)
eternal talon
in my honest opinion, i'd much rather have tried to work things out with og schaeffer and escape to the surface. with the help of the alt// team earlier on than e1/2, we might have had time to breach the bulkheads
eternal talon
who is nam-v? is it like nam (vietnam)
nam-v isn't a person, it is the name of the planet-wiping bioweapon created by the collectors.
eternal talon
what bulkheads
warden/biocom sealed off surface access when garganta was overun, leaving the surviving workers to be overwhelmed and killed.
there are likely multiple entire floors entirely sealed off and isolated to prevent the spread to the surface
(despite being far too late)
eternal talon
the warden is a collector. basically, it is the digitized consciousness of one of their species. It hacked into the biocom network and took it over.
as to what its goals are, it is rather complicated.
from combined evidence from ogr6 and alt//r6, it was attempting to create units from the remants of Insight's RISE project, being basically host bodies for more of the collectors. One of these we hear from in alt//r6 talking to schaeffer, calling itself the "conduit".
as to the motives of the warden, we don't know its end goals specifically. we know it and the collectors in the game were exiled from their greater species. They were collecting the virus, and had a massive collection of infected species from various different universes within the hull of their ship that hammerstein found. In ogr6, it was attempting to have us gather the Genome Database (presumably for the destination infected sleepers or nam-v,) but was interrupted by og schaeffer's actions. it dropped everything to replace the unit schaeffer killed, (u22), and that is why all of r7 is us making its replacement, (u23). though in r7 it was interrupted again, when schaeffer (with the help of henrikkson) finally managed to disable the warden and take partial control of biocom in the og worldline. of course, with the spagettification of r8, none of their progress ultimately mattered.
this is also why alt//warden lied to alt//schaeffer. the wardens between worldlines can communicate. Knowing what happened to og warden at the hands of schaeffer, alt//warden planned to eliminate the threat before he could do the same thing.
frozen crescent
The warden wanted to train the prisoners for the real world
heady crescent
u think the warden had kids after alt//schaeffer "f*cked" the warden
cause he said he know how to
eternal talon
The warden wanted to train the prisoners for the real world
i feel at this point you are simply trolling to derail the conversation. Please stop or i'll be forced to contact the moderators.
eternal talon
u think the warden had kids after alt//schaeffer "f*cked" the warden
what the fuck...
frozen crescent
thats why we ended up outside
because we were ready for the real world after r8e2
and we teleported to exit the complex
heady crescent
now we collect scrap to sell
warm root
Thank you for explaining what was going on in r6-7 lol
heady crescent
in this new world
heady mortar
if we could please keep the convo in #gtfo-lore serious, that would be appreciated
gentle minnow
the warden is a collector. basically, it is the digitized consciousness of one o...
what species are we talking about, sleeper?
eternal talon
Thank you for explaining what was going on in r6-7 lol
i will always be here if anybody ever needs a question answered, though i should probably get around to updating the for dummies doc or making a "lore final" replacement
eternal talon
what species are we talking about, sleeper?
in what context, the genome database?
heady crescent
"the warden is a collector. basically, it is the digitized consciousness of one of their species"
whats the species
eternal talon
we don't know specifically which it is, or at least i don't, but i assume from what i personally know that its either the destination variants (floaters/kraken) or nam-v itself.
gentle minnow
why the fuck do they want GLPs
r u sure this is not like squid game where rich ppl pay to watch 4 ppl get sent into hell
heady crescent
r u sure this is not like squid game where rich ppl pay to watch 4 ppl get sent ...
then do u teleport to the rich people in e2 ?
queen gazelle
r u sure this is not like squid game where rich ppl pay to watch 4 ppl get sent ...
Oh I think Netflix just dropped something about this
frozen crescent
The warden is not only an AI but also a military instructor
to train the prisoners for the mexican world
since the complex is located in mexico
eternal talon
whats the species
ah, so "collectors" is the name of the species (it is what they call themselves, and the warden calls itself a "COLCTR" or something like that) that crashed into the earth. The egg, fossil, whatever you wanna call it, it is their ship. they brought the virus and parasite here. they infented the matter wave projector, the data cubes, and all of the artifacts.
gentle minnow
lowkey i would pay $1000/month to wtach IRL GTFO
eternal talon
why the fuck do they want GLPs
it was used (at least in the case of glp2) to rapidly improve the development and creation of the warden's units. U23 grows from infant to adult in seconds which shouldn't be physically possible according to our local biologist.
eternal talon
no. we are KSOs, Kovac Security Operatives.
heady crescent
what are we securing as security operatives
gentle minnow
Frosty, who tf put us into HSU in the first place
eternal talon
arent we warden's units?
none of the r8 stuff is covered, but the overwhelming majority of the background fundamentals are covered in the "for dummies doc" in the pins of this channel. I'd highly reccomend reading it if you have the time.
frozen crescent
so the warden is the general of Kovac?
eternal talon
dauda was cornered by sleepers and entered without much other choice
eternal talon
so the warden is the general of Kovac?
no.
the warden is an alien. kovac is just a generic PMC that worked with santonian and dreyfus (the people who built garganta)
queen gazelle
Frosty, who tf put us into HSU in the first place
So you guys beat r8 then
How you like it
gentle minnow
bad ending
was hoping for
"WTF HOLY SHIT"
I wanted to see through sec door and see ourselves in replay through the door in r8e1
LOL
queen gazelle
XD
queen gazelle
bad ending
Tbh they were kinda fucked with ending this mess of a story
eternal talon
to be totally fair, all of our squadmates are complete psychopaths. realistically it is true to their character to fuck over the alt// team to save themselves.
gentle minnow
k but jish
what if we came out of that matter wave
to a colleseum of rich ppl cheering us
queen gazelle
Hmmmm it would be slightly better
gentle minnow
what wouldve been a good ending for you then
queen gazelle
Henderson puts a bullet through Schaffer’s head
queen gazelle
Yeah not as cool
heady crescent
which schaeffer do u think fucked the warden
eternal talon
honestly i don't think this game can have a good ending, and the devs themselves went into r8 with the intention of giving us a bad ending (according to interviews). but i'd rather dying on the surface of our own world alone rather than dooming an entire planet for no reason -- we were gonna die from the virus without hydrostasis eventually anways
queen gazelle
They both did
eternal talon
we just took the clean worldline with us for no reason
gentle minnow
Rick was hoping that the end would be an arena where 2 platforms rise up with burst cannon sentries deployed and schaeffer is there
heady crescent
we just took the clean worldline with us for no reason
theres for sure a reason
eternal talon
They both did
og did, alt//schaeffer didn't get the chance. warden got him on his side early on with the promise of safety
queen gazelle
og did, alt//schaeffer didn't get the chance. warden got him on his side early o...
Good cop fucking
Is still fucking
queen gazelle
Rick was hoping that the end would be an arena where 2 platforms rise up with bu...
I would like this instead of the back half of r8e2
rain citrus
is there an explanation for how the OG team revolts against crazy schaeffer in R8B4 even though we still have the control chips? Sounds like Henriksson was iced in the background so I'm guessing we didn't meet in 108 and get them removed?
eternal talon
is there an explanation for how the OG team revolts against crazy schaeffer in R...
i don't recall... remind me what we do in r8b4
fresh gyro
i don't recall... remind me what we do in r8b4
you can choose not to follow schaeffers orders
by not doing sec
rain citrus
I guess by revolt I mean go grab the datasphere for the other team
burnt wren
Okay, I'm confused. What happened to henrikson? Last time I heard him was R8A2, then Schaeffer... Can't find him?... In R8C2 and now Schaeffer's fucking dead so... Where did Henriman disappeared to?
nova python
Schaeffer says " what's done is done" or something like that about Henrikson in b3 I think ?
Implying he killed him i guess
mortal pivot
Explain one thing to me: I remember someone (Schaeffer) saying something in R8C1 about "a world they didnt visit yet", assuming the crater or whatever's the alien spaceship then this means that said world wouldn't have had the thingy crash on Earth, which means dinosaurs would still be around very probably? Am I getting something wrong?
coral gorge
Explain one thing to me: I remember someone (Schaeffer) saying something in R8C1...
Schafer didnt mean an earth that wasnt hit by a ship, he meant a dimension that the scientists with the MWP didnt visit
but im pretty sure given infinite wordlines, there does exist a wordline where earth still has dinosaurs
coral gorge
Yeah
winter fox
cunning light
Well, he tried to stop Schaeffer. Didn't go very well for him.
cold sphinx
Well, he tried to stop Schaeffer. Didn't go very well for him.
Getting bucketted
cunning light
He did manage to help the OG team freeing themselves from Schaeffer's control, however. So he was one of the keys to their "success"
coral gorge
F for Henri
I really wish he got more spotlight in R8
and not just 60 seconds of audio before getting killed offscreen
burnt wren
Yeah, that was weird...
Some story elements really do feel rushed.
I guess that's what happens...
lilac island
I feel weird that Scheaffer lost his mind like completely so fast
cunning light
So fast ? He has been losing his mind for as long as we know of him...
winter oracle
He lost it in r6
winter oracle
Last audio log with him killing mimic
burnt wren
He was fine, yeah.
cunning light
He already felt insane in OG R5
lilac island
Gtfo is actually a critique of human nature and the dangers of radicalisation
Social commentary
cunning light
He regained some amount of sanity when he got to interract with another human being for a while, after being alone with his thoughts for ages
But that did not last
lilac island
Yeah and then he integrated that human into the ground
winter oracle
And didn't died to namv
lilac island
Namv is bullshit
burnt wren
The jump to "let's blow everything up" was too quick.
He wanted to get out, did he not?
winter oracle
- Kill warden 2. Get out
lilac island
He wanted to screw the wardrn
winter oracle
I dont see destroying garganta and everyone else in this list
But devs needed to close his story
burnt wren
Yeah, shits too random. Things happen, characters pull deicisons out of their ass. If this was a movie I'd give it 3/10 tops.
winter oracle
I have to admit, that gtfo lore is big and has/had a lot of room for any stuff
It isnt l4d lore with few strings of text about infection
burnt wren
Yet L4D escapes largely unscathed due to that.
The biggest plotholes are pretty much all game mechanics. Like surviving tank punches.
winter oracle
Like disenfect
lilac island
It's fine for Schaefer to choose and end it
It might even be the right thing
He is stopping thr suffering of prisoners, putting them out of their misery
No more orders, no more nightmares
burnt wren
The jump to it was too quick. No development.
lilac island
I think so too yes
winter oracle
He is stopping thr suffering of prisoners, putting them out of their misery
Kso lore, mindless robots that care only about mission
lilac island
Well yes but they feel pain
burnt wren
What should've happen is that he meets the other self, the other explains how fucked they are with namv wiping everything and no planet left to live on and THEN Schaeffer breaks and becomes an agent of chaos.
winter oracle
No no no wait
Bishop were saying something about lockdown
I cant recall
I have chattern reborn installed and use a dialog
But I'm not at home
lilac island
Oka
royal crow
sometimes the dialogue cuts when i enter in combat
:b
idk if thats intended or not
but it was very annoying the first time i did R8
cunning light
It is intended. Do not ask me why, though.
winter oracle
No I mean
royal crow
It is intended. Do not ask me why, though.
💀
cunning light
If you only kill without breaking stealth at all, it will not cut
winter oracle
Nah, I'm talking about r8
cunning light
Even walking towards an enemy, "softly" waking it, will stop dialogue
royal crow
The subtitles appear for a split second
yeah
lilac island
It is intended. Do not ask me why, though.
?!
royal crow
Cho is talking about something else
lilac island
Bro i swear
royal crow
Woods, we know what are you talking about
idk why they havent fixed subtitles tbh
broken subtitles + dialogue cutting when entering combat
is just....
winter oracle
crude jacinth
That alt team is fucked because they carry data cubes
Haven't heard the vl, are they fucked because OG need the cubes and that meant alt had to get fucked for that to happen?
In the context of his vl
winter oracle
Alright i'm home
I'm gonna check
@crude jacinth@lilac island
Woods says that "we need to get data cubes before then"
But, becaues i'm solo, I can't swap characters and check
crude jacinth
Alright i'm home
past matrix
idk why they havent fixed subtitles tbh
they were too busy making enemy reskins
final scarab
What's the lore implication for the sniper rifle change this rundown? Did Bishop replace the original with a Nerf gun?
crisp citrus
The lore is the new timelines are worse
final scarab
Did Harambe die in the new timeline?
coral gorge
harambe took the sniper to defend himself in his final hours
needless to say it didnt work out well for him
sudden quarry
schaeffer is responsible for the weapon buffs, the warden keeps nerfing weapons so we cant escape the complex
craggy widget
og schafer just went insane and broke all the good sniper rifles in the complex
proof?
craggy widget
when i actually beat B4 lol
ooh
final scarab
Is there a timeline out there where Schaeffer joins the TVA and helps prune the other variants?
craggy widget
if you need me im free after E2 hihi
coral gorge
Is there a timeline out there where Schaeffer joins the TVA and helps prune the ...
given the existence of infinite wordlines... probably
craggy widget
Is there a timeline out there where Schaeffer joins the TVA and helps prune the ...
they fired him now he stuck
craggy widget
< 3
eternal talon
Can you guys please stop meming in this channel?
coral gorge
sorry frosty
eternal talon
Literally yesterday
#gtfo-lore message
coral gorge
well in terms of actual lore
is the possibility of not causing the reactor meltdown just... ignored lore wise?
as in if we dont do the secondary we dont trigger the meltdown, and yet the meltdown always occurs anyways
eternal talon
As in just not going along with schaeffers plans? I'm not sure.
Iirc secondary was lifting the control (or cooling?) Rods
eternal talon
Which is certainly a vital part of the process... but who's to say schaeffer hadn't already done that by himself on other reactors
eternal talon
For a place this size you'd need way more than one reactor going critical to do any significant damage
coral gorge
also yeah
thats what ive been wondering about - we only really make one reactor go critical
eternal talon
Nuclear reactors aren't built like bombs, even going as horribly as they can the destructive power of them is substantially less
coral gorge
when it feels like not exactly enough to decimate garganta, as its like a mini sized reactor
crisp citrus
Maybe the other teams are also making it go critical?
Like they're making other reactors explode
coral gorge
but that would require schafer to have control over more teams and i dont think he has that
eternal talon
Maybe the other teams are also making it go critical?
We don't have any info on the objectives of other teams, so I can't really say.
But in r8 they should be under the control of alt//warden
crisp citrus
Possible it's an oversight
coral gorge
all we know is the warden had teams looking for the datasphere... and they did absolutely nothing lol
crisp citrus
They just kinda forgor the reactor wouldn't actually destroy that much
coral gorge
yeah seems like it
eternal talon
I mean look at chernobyl. That's iirc the biggest nuclear power plant disaster in history yet the building is still mostly standing beneath that iron dome
coral gorge
yeah
most of chernobyls damage was from the insane amount of radiation
since the explosion itself wasnt super powerful
burnt wren
It was pretty powerful
crisp citrus
For the purposes of this explanation: The reactor that goes critical just so happens to be near a gas line that connects to everywhere in the facility and the reactor explosion hits the gas line causing a super big gas explosion
coral gorge
It was *pretty* powerful
well yeah
burnt wren
Its just that the giant steel lid consumed most of it as it got shot up in the air
That being said people do tend to just kinda combine nuclear reactors and nuclear bombs into the same category
Both got nuclear in it, so... Same thing, basically?
coral gorge
yeah an exploding nuclear reactor wont decimate a city like a nuclear bomb would
burnt wren
Except for the part where humanity actually wants one to deal as much damage as possible while the other is specifically designed to deal the least damage if something goes wrong, hence the giant fucking lids
crisp citrus
For the purposes of this explanation: The reactor that goes critical just so hap...
I'm gonna go with the gas line theory
coral gorge
i mean... i guess its plausible
we dont know if garagnta uses/doesnt use gas for anything
crisp citrus
To cook obviously
coral gorge
let schafer cook
eternal talon
we dont know if garagnta uses/doesnt use gas for anything
Given how deep it runs geothermal could potentially be practical but I'm nowhere near an expert on the topic whatsoever
crisp citrus
They would just use geothermal for power over reactors then...
coral gorge
i mean... you can only get so much of geotharmal energy from reactors
it'd be impossible to run an entire facility as big as garganta on it
final scarab
What's the deepest level?
crisp citrus
1400 m or something?
coral gorge
yeah its around 1,5 km
eternal talon
it'd be impossible to run an entire facility as big as garganta on it
Even with pure nuclear they have at least several dozen reactors according to logs
coral gorge
Even with pure nuclear they have at least several dozen reactors according to lo...
yeah so it would take a shit ton of geothermal energy to run even like 10% of the facility on it
maybe if they had reached near core of the earth?
final scarab
2.9k KM down for hottest part for geothermal
coral gorge
yeah so i doubt they set any more of it up
eternal talon
(Also good to note it is the 2050s, so any and all tech would be more advanced, including power generation)
coral gorge
true
eternal talon
maybe if they had reached near core of the earth?
The inner itself is 4k meters down and gargant only reached ~2.5k
coral gorge
btw regarding the ending a bit... am i the only one who kinda sees the metaphore of emptying KDS Deep as a direct opposition to how R5E1 was supposed to be a metaphor for an influx of new players with the full release and now that KDS Deep gets emptied it showing that the game will begin to die down?
coral gorge
The inner itself is 4k meters down and gargant only reached ~2.5k
i guess you'd get some thermal out of that
eternal talon
Even the hardest drills would never reach anywhere close to the core of the earth. Pressure and temperature would be far too great
eternal talon
btw regarding the ending a bit... am i the only one who kinda sees the metaphore...
Wdym emptied?
burnt wren
What's the deepest level?
R7E1 for 1411m
coral gorge
Wdym emptied?
well not literally
i mean how for instance in R8E1 we see it as a giant hole
with barely any pods left where KDS Deep once stood
eternal talon
i mean how for instance in R8E1 we see it as a giant hole
Well that was caused by us in e2
burnt wren
One could make an argument i suppose
I'll see for myself later
But R5 influx protocol was most definetely a clever jab at 1.0 release and influx of players
coral gorge
yeah im just looking at it from a very specific angle
eternal talon
Oh yeah.... what ARE you doing here artek... did you finally finish your r8 blind run?
burnt wren
Wiped on extraction scan of D2, E2 is the only mystery left for me
coral gorge
i gave up on going blind after getting stuck at B4
burnt wren
Otherwise i've seen almost everything that is left to see
final scarab
Looks like deepest man made drill well is 12KM
eternal talon
Looks like deepest man made drill well is 12KM
Somewhere in Russia iirc
coral gorge
ngl i wonder if DoV will have anywhere close as confusing lore as GTFO has
i kinda hope it does so the madness can continue
eternal talon
ngl i wonder if DoV will have anywhere close as confusing lore as GTFO has
From the teaser website it looks like it
More arg stuff
"Hacking" puzzles on a city map
past matrix
hopefully DoW isn't just emails like gtfo's lore is
eternal talon
hopefully DoW isn't just emails like gtfo's lore is
I mean think about it... it "worked" for gtfo, you know they are going to do it again with maybe some cutscenes sprinkled in
shell forum
Sorry if im interrupting you guys, but what the hell happened in r8e1
eternal talon
Given it is one of the most recent and complicated expeditions, let me know what you think happened and I can elaborate/correct
royal crow
||ALT team died||
royal crow
Given it is one of the most recent and complicated expeditions, let me know what...
hello Frosty
eternal talon
Also don't apologize. This is gtfo-lore, asking questions is the point of this channel
And I will always be happy to assist
shell forum
First who are we playing with the alt crew or the non alt crew
eternal talon
||ALT team died||
Hiya warden
royal crow
First who are we playing with the alt crew or the non alt crew
alt crew
shell forum
So alt crew died, and sent the data cubes so we could survive in e2?
shell forum
Oh
cold sphinx
most of R8 missions happen at the same time
hence the title: duality
shell forum
That is cool thanks for your help guys
cold sphinx
That is cool thanks for your help guys
no probs
shell forum
❤️
eternal talon
So alt crew died, and sent the data cubes so we could survive in e2?
i am back. technically yes... but we (og team) trick the alt// team to get the data cubes, we leave without them, and they curse us as they die alone
eternal talon
E1 and e2 happend in the same time?
yes. as a matter of fact, at the end, we are a single security door away from eachother
shell forum
Oh
shell forum
There is any dialouge or any terminal that explain that?
eternal talon
There is any dialouge or any terminal that explain that?
nope
royal crow
There is any dialouge or any terminal that explain that?
Schaeffer says some lines that suggest he killed henri
shell forum
Man
shell forum
a waste of the character
Yeah
And Also schaeffer went insane and killed alt schaeffer right?
shell forum
Is there any reason why schaeffer is so insane in r8?
shell forum
and then we kill OG schaeffer
Any reason why?
shell forum
Thx again guys 
eternal talon
Any reason why?
bad childhood + hydrostasis + being alone for half a decade in what is basically hell
royal crow
shell forum
how did he survived NAM-V?
Too mad to dos
winter oracle
how did he survived NAM-V?
An apple a day keeps the warden away
rain citrus
henrikson did say he would meet us in 108 to remove our chips, and that's where you start in r8b4, but then schaeffer mentions killing him and I don't get how we actually got freed or where the blue datasphere orders come from
idk maybe it's just a rushed lore gap
I need henrikson closure lol
rain citrus
good point
winter oracle
there is no proof that he is dead or alive
After R8E1/E2 he is 100% dead, so everyone/everything else on Earth
if information from the collector was true story
clear shale
schrodinger's henriksson
royal crow
henrikson did say he would meet us in 108 to remove our chips, and that's where ...
we got freed
those blue "orders" are probably from us
sudden quarry
we get freed in c2 don’t we?
dull orchid
is the full lore out yet ?
gloomy peak
So does the lore ever explain where all the giant holes in the ground came from when you get dropped into the complex at the start of each match
The damage in the hole clearly seems like everything was blasted "up" and not "down" judging by the way the metal is damaged and bent
cobalt mulch
So does the lore ever explain where all the giant holes in the ground came from ...
the GQP or QGP plasma beams created the drop tunnels yes, it's in there
gloomy peak
Do you know where you find it? Can't see anything on the wiki about it
gloomy peak
Ah, thank you
eternal talon
she cookin
tbh i'm really not... not much (if any) significant background lore (pre-apocalypse) was in r8, so basically no changes needed to the "for dummies" doc.
and in regards to a total lore summary... i could do it, but lazy.
its rather simple too.
toxic wagon
eternal talon
OGr1: Quad first woken up. Sent to activate reactors and collect materials/dna samples from HSUs.
OGr2: Nothing important until r2e1 where we collect the Neonatal HSU for later use in r3.
OGr3: Processing the Neonate for data storage, ultimately leaving it behind for another quad to deal with.
OGr4: Nothing important -- just busywork.
OGr5: Cracking the lockdown and restoring power to KDS-DEEP so we can advance and breach its defenses in e1, ending with us giving the WRDN access to the 24,000 KSOs housed inside that were not previously accessible to it.
OGr6: Collecting the Matter Wave Projector, Data Cubes & Genome Database -- mission final interrupted by Schaeffer eliminating one of WRDN's Units.
OGr7: Dropping previous objective -- Most of the rundown spent replacing the eliminated U22 with U23 with its completion in D1. At the end of r7 Schaeffer and the newly awoken Henriksson manage to successfully integrate a Memory Stick into a BIOCOM server room, giving them partial control over the system with the restart of the e1 reactor.
JUMP TO ALT...
ALT//r1: Playing as new team, story repeats original in alternate worldline
ALT//r2: Playing as new team, story repeats original in alternate worldline
ALT//r3: Playing as new team, story repeats original in alternate worldline
ALT//r4: Playing as new team, story repeats original in alternate worldline
ALT//r5: Playing as new team, story repeats original in alternate worldline
ALT//r6: ALT//WRDN learns of OG//WRDN's demise at the hands of Schaeffer & Henriksson so plans to get rid of them by sending them away to an unknown worldline -- lying saying that it is the clean one described in the ALT//Durant logs.
ALT//r7: N/A. With the Unit not dying at the end of r6 in ALT//, there is no need to make a replacement.
JUMP TO R8...
With the continued misuse of the Matter Wave Projector, worldlines finally merge into a single strain.
ALT//Quad continues to work with ALT//Schaeffer in effort to escape.
OG//Schaeffer plans to destroy the facility as he had previously planned.
OG//Henrikkson is killed by Schaeffer after leading our OG//Quad to disable our Neural Implants.
OG//Quad ultimately kills both Schaeffers from the combined worldlines, lie to the ALT//quad, take their data cubes, and leave them behind to go to the TRUE clean worldline, thus infecting it with the virus in the process -- The End.
basically a giant gun. some malfunctioning collector defense system that was finally triggered by hammerstein on accident.
eternal talon
```
JUMP TO R8...
With the continued misuse of the Matter Wave Projector, world...
^ the above is the jidst of the story in gameplay. the "for dummies" document still covers the basics for stuff that happens before gameplay.
lilac island
is there a lore reason why my parents dont love me
eternal talon
@shut mountain Would you kindly please replace the 📌 of the previous "FOR DUMMIES" document with this one? This file has been UPDATED with information from R8.
- A reminder to those reading this document to get familiar with the lore, this file is too large to click expand, as such you must either download it, or click "View Whole File"
- Credit to @plain river for the Worldline Diagram!
shut mountain
cobalt mulch
is there a lore reason why my parents dont love me
old lore reveals that the answer lies in the mirror, or shards of- .. 🙂
warm root
<@262882536781381642> Would you kindly please replace the 📌 of the previous...
What is unknown worldline/team? What's different from the alt worldline/team
royal crow
What is unknown worldline/team? What's different from the alt worldline/team
we dont know
but its the team we play as A2 sec
i call "nightmare" worldline the fucked garganta
cunning light
Not really, in this diagram you have one possible version, where the quad originally from the Alt:// worldline somehow got replaced by another one
Which is not what I believe happened :)
cunning light
As for R8A2 Secondary, I agree with you that it is very likely not canon
eternal talon
Not really, in this diagram you have one possible version, where the quad origin...
I still have to believe, because of that one schaeffer log before the place got overrun. It's a chekov's gun
It has to mean something otherwise why include it
It's way out of place of all the others it could only mean that encounter imo
dusky canopy
speaking of non canon, is r6d4 still non canon? (OG and/or ALT)
cunning light
But we could be transported to a worldline, as the OG team, in which Hammerstein went all out with his experimentation
I think of it as an alternate "bad ending" for the OG team
coral gorge
speaking of non canon, is r6d4 still non canon? (OG and/or ALT)
ALT very much is
eternal talon
speaking of non canon, is r6d4 still non canon? (OG and/or ALT)
R6d4 has always been Canon, we just didn't have the answer to it back then
So we were told to ignore it "for now"
warm root
So the original team from the alt worldline was killed off in the beginning?
dusky canopy
I see, ta
coral gorge
So the original team from the alt worldline was killed off in the beginning?
Quite possibly
royal crow
So the original team from the alt worldline was killed off in the beginning?
probably
most likely yes
coral gorge
or somehow a diffrent team jumped into ALT and died
cunning light
It's way out of place of all the others it could only mean that encounter imo
Just an earlier encounter of the same type we find throughout R8
eternal talon
probably
That's what the log in question and the alt//r6cx final room implies, but it is debated topic.
cunning light
or somehow a diffrent team jumped into ALT and died
This is what I believe happened
A team composed of Bishop, Dauda, and two random dudes
coral gorge
we have no way of telling really
cunning light
Exactly so
coral gorge
A team composed of Bishop, Dauda, and two random dudes
prolly its our full quad
cunning light
Both are right, in a nutshell
coral gorge
and it doesnt really change anything
eternal talon
As for R8A2 Secondary, I agree with you that it is very likely not canon
I still don't get it's purpose, I mean hell, it has a weekly password rotation likea destiny raid. Why put so much effort in it?
cunning light
I am not sure myself, but I think it is meant as a whole easter egg optional layer, to be enjoyed by both lore and gameplay enthusiasts once or twice
royal crow
I still don't get it's purpose, I mean hell, it has a weekly password rotation l...
at least Destiny raids make sense
this doesnt
warm root
A2's secondary is considered a different worldline. I'm assuming it's just an impossible world to live in since it's full of the worst enemies imaginable
cunning light
And I really appreciate that it provided a space to feature some attempted enemy variant designs, even though they did not make it to the game proper
warm root
So were we playing a different team in A2 secondary
royal crow
we dont have a clear answer to that
cunning light
To me we play as the OG team, but we got lost and instead of following our destined outcome, we got there
royal crow
cunning light
Hence the "alternate bad ending" postulate
warm root
There are no good endings heh
coral gorge
how does A2 secondary end?
royal crow
how does A2 secondary end?
we die
coral gorge
ah
cunning light
again.
royal crow
as part of an "experiment"
rose cradle
i thought A2 secondary was described as a simulation
coral gorge
Then the issue would be - how the frog is there a simulation there and how does it work
rose cradle
true, so i think it definitely looks like some sort of worldline that is completely ridden with sleepers
royal crow
i thought A2 secondary was described as a simulation
if its a simulation
why do we hear and see the same efect as the warp from a MWP
toxic wagon
rose cradle
if its a simulation
why do we hear and see the same efect as the warp from a MW...
Damn good point
coral gorge
true, so i think it definitely looks like some sort of worldline that is complet...
To me it seems like a very bad spot in the nightmare wordline
coral gorge
I still love the ”kill enemy with melee weapon”… shines flashlight and see a pmom
toxic wagon
I still love the *”kill enemy with melee weapon”… shines flashlight and see a pm...
If it was a normal Mom. It is possible
That is if you take Bats
coral gorge
Solace… everything is possiblr if you’re brave enough
royal crow
knife vs pmom
coral gorge
but if you think about it… we are to kill the pmom with melees but it doesnt mention the children… so technically we could have like 2 machineguns and 2 hammers or whatever and machineguns obliterate infants while hammers hammer the mother
clear shale
It has to mean something otherwise why include it
for flavour
finite vine
where is a place I can read the gtfo logs chronologically?
burnt wren
where is a place I can read the gtfo logs chronologically?
As in: in-world chronologically? Probabaly none, no one was insane enough to go and categorise them all, not as far as i know anyway
cunning light
where is a place I can read the gtfo logs chronologically?
Note that many logs are not dated precisely, so it will not be completely accurate
But this can probably get you started, if you want to go through them in chronological order
finite vine
is this one updated with r8 logs?
cold sphinx
its rather simple too.
im just sayin
the R8 story is very easy to read
by just looking around and playing R8 it self
cold sphinx
just finished all of r8, still no idea who the warden is
bruh
it literally is the complexes AI
specifically made to maitain and conserve the complex from being in ruins
chilly prairie
ohh so thats why we were sent to do random missions throughout r1-7? to maintain the complex?
cold sphinx
ohh so thats why we were sent to do random missions throughout r1-7? to maintain...
not random
specific objectives made
take it as an example of R2E1 to R3A1 mission descriptions
we make Neonate
now we go to NCR to open up that Neonate
cobalt mulch
biocom was the complex caretaker omni ai.. wrdn hacked it, took over.. biocom was trying to erase until the end
royal crow
after the sleepers overrunned the complex
cold sphinx
biocom was the complex caretaker omni ai.. wrdn hacked it, took over.. biocom wa...
lets just say
bio com is really from the start had acess to only the security systems
cobalt mulch
it was integral in running the ops and regulating temps etc.. but it got pushed under wrdn, wrdn had its own agenda
cold sphinx
helping us fight the virus
cobalt mulch
oh well theyre both stuck in a lost mesh of wordlines where everything is lost to the virus
cold sphinx
i think that is both of all the WRDN main objectives in all timelines
cobalt mulch
and eventually durant & pals meet us and end of humanity period.. 😦
cold sphinx
could be different due to the passage of events
cold sphinx
and eventually durant & pals meet us and end of humanity period.. 😦
youd see more dead teams on R8B2 
cold sphinx
not the full team death
but on R8D1
was a full team death
a hint
to throw out E1's team demise
cobalt mulch
those hsus will never be opened safely, eventually run out of power.. meh
cold sphinx
those hsus will never be opened safely, eventually run out of power.. meh
dont worry
the guys that captures us will
cold sphinx
lets just hope that those mf dont touch the warp gate anymore
royal crow
all of them will
cold sphinx
cobalt mulch
hopefully dauda will find a usb stick in his combat vest that contains all the stuff they collected in r6 and concoct a miracle cure. then they go back, pop open some female hsus, repopulate.
cold sphinx
hopefully dauda will find a usb stick in his combat vest that contains all the s...
talking about that
there a big lead
that one of us will
and have snuck up some files/data of the whole journey
cobalt mulch
maybe the collectors actually come visit us and fill in the blanks from their "data going back millenia, aeons" ..
maybe teach us interstellar and -dimensional travel and help us save species. doesnt sound like they would tho, wrdn deemed it futile to interact with us.
maybe wrdn figured out the inherent evil of our species, willingly leave others behind to a certain demise. 20 seconds and the other team opens the door and jumps with us to safety. nope, u served your purpose, u stay.
finite vine
it literally is the complexes AI
BIOCOM is the complexes AI, not the warden. The warden is the aliens construct that is using BIOCOM to access the complex and use its resources.
clear shale
all of them will
I'm still in the "everyone lives except us" line of thinking
dull orchid
oh i didnt even realised alt// is the new team
crude jacinth
Why were the aliens even bothering with us in the complex then
burnt wren
They wanted to get us out.
But its unclear as to why.
Frossty speculated what they actually want is the sleepers in all their glory and they wanted to clear us out from the planet as something they don't want around (and prevent our potential comeback?).
OR they actually did wanted to save us from the curse of NAM-V, but unfortuantely did not succeeded in any way.
crude jacinth
- Then wrdn would've actively had us killed instead of just sending us in bad situations
- seems like a lot of work for 4 turd-tier humans without many prospects or skills
cold sphinx
But its unclear as to why.
predator lore reference lol
burnt wren
Huh?
gaunt jackal
I have a question, when does the lore starts to get deep? (I started not so long ago and finished R1A1 and B1/2) But have no idea wha'ts going on yet, when do we start getting pieces of information and clues of what's going on?
burnt wren
I have a question, when does the lore starts to get deep? (I started not so long...
There is nothing of particular interest going on up until Rundown 6.
There will be various logs with interesting information (degree varies) in the first 5 rundowns, but Rundown 6 is where things start REALLY picking up, especially R6CX and R6D1 and then it continues from there.
eternal talon
(Just keep in mind r7 takes place LONG before alt//r6)
burnt wren
Yeah... Gonna be honest its lowkey insane
eternal talon
Lots of plot threads they will have no context for since it is the last remnant of the original campaign pre-alt
burnt wren
IMHO if you were to play this "right" you should play:
Rundown 1-5, THEN Rundown 7, Then 6>8.
That would probably be the most optimal "narative" experience.
But then again... In this game... Sheesh.
eternal talon
IMHO if you were to play this "right" you should play:
Rundown 1-5, THEN Rundown...
Ehh, I guess since the alt//1-5 are largely unchanged from their og counterparts gameplay wise, the logs though are different
They still won't know why r7 is building a new unit to replace u22 though, or the whole schaeffer rebellion plotline
(Given going from ogr7 to alt//r6 an uninformed player would be completely dropkicked by a sudden change in "Schaeffer"'s personality, not knowing it is a different schaeffer)
crude jacinth
There's a different Schaeffer? Do they work together to help the watden
burnt wren
Y... Yeah? Have you not played R6 and R8 yet?
The entire ALT Rundown arc is pretty much confirmed to be a playthrough of a different, alt dimension squad of our 4 lads. They just had to do all the same shit for Warden in their world too, until Rundown 6 where Warden has a direct dialogue with ALT Schaeffer, which changes their storyline enough that ALT Squad basically skip Rundown 7.
eternal talon
There's a different Schaeffer? Do they work together to help the watden
no.
Original schaeffer VERY MUCH SO wants the warden dead.
crude jacinth
What that's crazy! when do I unlock the original rundowns
eternal talon
The entire ALT Rundown arc is pretty much confirmed to be a playthrough of a dif...
I wouldn't say pretty much... you can rock solid confirmed this -- we at a point are a single door apart and talk a lot
eternal talon
What that's crazy! when do I unlock the original rundowns
That's the neat part
They removed the previous rundown every time they released a new one to get people to come back every update. When the game was finally coming to a close, the devs gave in and decided to make alt// to bring back all of the previously deleted og rundowns with a twist
The story though is gone forever
Alt is different storywise
Just gameplay came back and is mostly unchanged bar a few exceptions
crude jacinth
Wow that's so cool! I've beaten 2 of the rundown 8 levels so far
Will 9 have the same number of levels or do they change it every time
burnt wren
Will 9 have the same number of levels or do they change it every time
I... I don't think Rundown 9 will be a thing.
But yes, the number of levels is rundowns is always unpredictable.
eternal talon
I... I don't think Rundown 9 will be a thing.
Yeah, sad to say it but r8 is the end
eternal talon
https://tenor.com/view/nani-surprised-what-shocked-scared-gif-557951174458101762
On the flip side though, once you beat all of the vanilla rundowns there are tons of custom modded ones, some even with new enemies
burnt wren
No thanks, i got Elden Ring to finish and edit
At this rate i'll be doing this until 2030s
crude jacinth
Oh I thought discussing that is against the rules, I wouldn't want to do that
eternal talon
I just bought DMC 1-4 lol
eternal talon
Oh I thought discussing that is against the rules, I wouldn't want to do that
Talking about it in general is fine iirc, but not in depth. It's okay to acknowledge they exist
I myself made one and talk about it in here occasionally in regards to how I know some of the behind the scenes stuff
crude jacinth
Well I hope you don't get in trouble you seem passionate about the game I hope they know
eternal talon
I do my best not to! I talk with the mods often and so far none have mentioned it as a problem
lilac island
i really don't like that we didn't get answers in r8
i wanna know but it's not worth the effort
and none of it really matters anyway
it's not relevant to the ending
woohoooy we got the fried onions
what did all of that other stuff mean? who cares
you dont spend time on a problem that's solved
at the same time idk if i'm simply stupid and it's obvious what happens
i don't understand how all these missions tie together or what any of it means
why does a nuclear meltdown cause a complex wide fuckin surge
what is a containment vessel
WHAT IS INFECTION
a nuclear meltdown causes the air to give you infection
because of air contamination
is infection just extreme dust
why is it called infection
are the contents of syringes dusty
what are secondaries really
stone swift
All of these questions will surely be answered in r8.5
lilac island
also how the fuck are we CLEAN bro
alt team has gone on 80 expeditions
and at r8c1 alt scheaffer CONFIRMS that alt team is clean
and OG team is clean too probably because OG scheaffer tells ALT sch that og team is infected as revenge
which makes it seem like he's lying
HOW ARE YOU FUCKERS CLEAN
DRENCHED IN BLOOD AND INFECTION AND PUS, FULL OF WOUNDS
I don't understand
also because i haven't played r5e1, we take a different path to KDS deep in r8e1 right
is it canon that our squad of 4 is so absolutely cracked as KSOs that we never get hit, so we never get an open wound to be infected from
also didn't alt bishop die or some shit in r6xb or something
cobalt mulch
the hsu heals and cleans and patches us up, regeneration etc. and we take a hsu nap between every drop..
but, frostty pointed it out many times already, even hsu cleanup just stops the virus, it doesn't undo the virus.. so go in infected, come out infected..
lilac island
no
that wouldn't
because shceaffer says "idk if you can stay clean if you interact with others"
why would interacting with others matter if hsu clears you up whenever you enter
so it doesn'
otherwise scheaffer wouldnt have warned
cold sphinx
because shceaffer says "idk if you can stay clean if you interact with others"
we only talk to eachother
lol
lilac island
and?
lilac island
So why did you type that out
lilac island
Scheaffer warns that if we interact with other we can get infected
Physical interaction
Obviously
cold sphinx
Scheaffer warns that if we interact with other we can get infected
but have we met any others?
cold sphinx
But the plan was to meet
did you even do A1-2 properly?
lilac island
I haven't
cold sphinx
yeah
cold sphinx
nah im phasing out what did you say earlier?
lilac island
If getting infected is a serious thing that means HSUs don't just cure it
This is my point
cold sphinx
If getting infected is a serious thing that means HSUs don't just cure it
yeah that
theres no going against that
lilac island
so we agree
cold sphinx
so we agree
mhmn
lilac island
Least disastrous discord communication
cold sphinx
Least disastrous discord communication
i mean i was like "what is blud saying"
phased out for 10s there
cold sphinx
what are yall arguing about
is pablo thicc or not
lilac island
I am arguing with ghosts while warpgate eats popcorn
cold sphinx
is what we were arguing
royal crow
is pablo thicc or not
maybe
cobalt mulch
elbow had some good questions, "how are we clean bruh" etc.. we pointed out stuff, took detours and ended up same conclusions. defused.
cold sphinx
elbow had some good questions, "how are we clean bruh" etc.. we pointed out stuf...
real
elbow the level skipper
lilac island
It's just absurd being not infected after all this
It just doesn't work
Eeeven if
We take no damage
We use no syringe
cobalt mulch
albeit r5e1 u drop in at 99% .. (u get it on the elevator ride tho)
lilac island
Infection is not namv
Whatever it is it's not the virus so we can ignore that
Even if we're just gods and are untouched the entire game
Our melee weapons and clothes are still like full of blood
royal crow
we are infected one way or another with NAM-V
lilac island
We are permanently sealed inside our hazmats
cold sphinx
on both
cold sphinx
there is no way you can build all that on just not having a canteen and bathrooms lol
royal crow
oh well
cobalt mulch
we stay out of hsu's just for the missions, every bodily function and nutritious need is taken care of by hsu pod ..
lilac island
There is no intercepted transmission where they eat or shit
And no toilets
So we don't do either
Also no logs
cold sphinx
There is no intercepted transmission where they eat or shit
and theres none where they said the HSU gives em those?
so we cant just say that
lilac island
We know that the hsu fluid preserves the body
lilac island
So it must also provide nutrients
cold sphinx
So it must also provide nutrients
nuh uh
cold sphinx
youd really think
after all those times
foods are preserveable?
and turned into nutrients
even
if theyre
manufactured
before hand
its so much into the future
that even iced stuff gets spoiled
lilac island
Irl we can feed people by injecting nutrients in their blood stream
We get fed in hsus
cold sphinx
Irl we can feed people by injecting nutrients in their blood stream
that is with fully supervised and freshly made nutrients
cobalt mulch
maybe the hsu's are interlinked and the dead occupants are liquefied and intravenously fed to the living?
lilac island
Mf we have fridges
cobalt mulch
cold sphinx
we do not have any of those luxuries
cobalt mulch
" 😄 "
lilac island
It's 2055
lilac island
We have electricity
lilac island
How do you think the lights and biocom and whatever else all work
We have power and we that means we can preserve
cold sphinx
We have power and we that means we can preserve
im not saying
we dont have enough power
lilac island
We literally get a mention of cryo storage in r2
cold sphinx
im saying the time limit for those nutrients
lilac island
My ass time limit
cold sphinx
We literally get a mention of cryo storage in r2
dont just say that
you dont know if theres a power surge/outage
even if you say
we have power
lilac island
Nuclear reactors just go
cobalt mulch
wasnt there an optional objective, turn off lifesupport for hsu storage xyz ?
cold sphinx
wasnt there an optional objective, turn off lifesupport for hsu storage xyz ?
if there was
than it must be deemed unuseable
and thrown
cobalt mulch
i'm not sure what rundown but i remember the hubbub about it .. "why are we turning the hsu's off, killing ppl inside?" ..
lilac island
If there was it confirms
lilac island
Fine
lilac island
We
cold sphinx
"PROOF"
eternal talon
you guys realise NAM-V is everywhere right
^ this
royal crow
oh thank god Frosty arrived
lilac island
We aren't starving despite days worth of extreme physical exertion
cold sphinx
hows you
lilac island
So we are fed
cobalt mulch
r4a2 overload: terminal command "disable_life_support"
eternal talon
^ this
ven assuming we are somehow clean @lilac island we take a part of kds-deep with us so...
eternal talon
heyyyy frosttyy
hiya
cold sphinx
ven assuming we are somehow clean <@456226577798135808> we take a part of kds-de...
not somehow
we LITERALLY TAKE KDS WITH US
eternal talon
foods are preserveable?
i mean hydrostasis literally kills you, so food doesn't really matter. you just go from one mission straight to the next from your pov
lilac island
I know
lilac island
i mean hydrostasis literally kills you, so food doesn't really matter. you just ...
You'd still go hungry
cold sphinx
i mean hydrostasis literally kills you, so food doesn't really matter. you just ...
elbow on his way to 10CC asking "is shitting cannon, is eating cannon event"
eternal talon
oh thank god Frosty arrived
why thank god? is there a question that needs answering?
lilac island
You can't do like 150 hours worth of extreme manual labour without a meal
You would die
cold sphinx
why thank god? is there a question that needs answering?
you need to stop elbow
cobalt mulch
while being dead the synth amnio fluid courses thru your veins, revitalizing tissues etc
lilac island
why thank god? is there a question that needs answering?
You are our shepherd
cold sphinx
his theory needs to be drop ASAP
royal crow
why thank god? is there a question that needs answering?
its just that
they were talking about shitting and eating and shitting inside the HSU's
and to be fair
lilac island
No
royal crow
do they shit?
lilac island
I wasn't
lilac island
I specifically said we don't eat
eternal talon
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cold sphinx
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where was this log?
R6?
cold sphinx
Don't say that I'm saying that we poop inside HSUs
you literally said earlier
eternal talon
We aren't starving despite days worth of extreme physical exertion
also on the topic of food spoilage -- you know hard-tack exists, right? military rations from the american civil war that are still good a HUNDRED YEARS later? its not entirely unreasonable for some kind of nourishment slushie to have been developed in the couple hundred years since
royal crow
what GTFO does to a mf
lilac island
You're acting like I'm saying the exact opposite of what i am
royal crow
look at him
at him? look at US
cold sphinx
we really arent
eternal talon
we **LITERALLY TAKE KDS WITH US**
-- which is why regardless of our state, miraculously clean or not, the clean dimension is fucked.
cold sphinx
-- which is why regardless of our state, miraculously clean or not, the clean di...
not yet
if theyd know
and in this case they responded fast
lilac island
Well namv maybe doesn't infect plants
eternal talon
https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-no-no-40k-gif-24271093
i am not infallible just because i have been here the longest.
cold sphinx
maybe it will be a faster way to prevent it like OG world
lilac island
I know