#gtfo-lore
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Hope OG team lives a long fruitful life
yeaaaaah
they are most likely infected
after E2
Definitely won't have massive unbearable trauma
And have infected yet another universe
you have no idea...
they bring an entire part of KDS deep with them
which probably has the virus in it
Oh sick
They're gonna repopulate with steamy hot male intercourse
then on the "clean" worldline with the ruins of KDS-Deep we drug through with us.
These ss are amazing
very fucking cinematic.
Omg
100% gonna steal a load of them for my mods.
Sunlight on trees
it fades to black before you can get there
Hope.jpg
LOOK GORDON, A NEW WORLD TO INFECT!
Yeah
a new destination to create...
its where durant's team left to. we hear him just before the credits.
he left before the facility got overrun so was "saved"
Oh!
also this song is a fucking BOP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRmfu4EHFy8
"Chainsaw Symphony" from the album "Escape Velocity"
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Released on 04-28-2017 with Position Music.
no
i was just listening to it while going through the photos of destroyed kds-deep
felt super thematic to the hopeless fight to the death
Ok
Will listen eventually
was from a 40k necron tribute video
we were gonna have a final stand and die at the end
(necron mains rejoice)
i told yall
alt//team at least.
that depends if sleepers were brought through with the wreckage
not really. everybody there is gonna die from nam-v now. either from us, or from the wreckage of KDS-Deep.
i think that was an accident
idk if OG team really wanted to leave them behind
nah, we 100% sabot'd it.
sure we lied to them about us being schaeffer
they were literally on the other side of the door.
but there was other choice?
we could have let them come
Can't be
I know it makes sense
we cant open the door can we?
Blowtorch
nam-v can stay on surfaces for 4+ weeks. the place has always been thoroughly infested
its airborne. nam-v spreads via everything
bro the facility is about to blow up
not in gameplay, no. this rundown has 3 endings not 4
why
the devs talked about it in one of the interviews before r8 launched.
i dont remember what was said exactly, but it was something along the lines of showing how hopeless the situation is
Yes but don't just make it even worse like omg
nam-v god mode and sleepers, there was never a chance for a successful escape
we all going to die
No
if alt team managed to survived enough time
the Nuclear meltdown would have wipped everyone anyways
The ending should have been the teams sending 2 neonates into the new world and letting them build a new world from scratch like adam and eve
eh, i'd still rather side with schaeffer and have a rundown breaking out via cutting through the surface lockdown bulkheads, barely making it out before the reactors go critical, but i'm glad the game even has an ending.
only thing im upset about is that we had to kill og schaeffer

we need the matter wave projector
Instead of waltzing in whoopty do NAMV
he thought we were working for the warden, even after we had our chips removed. idk why but i have a feeling it would have been possible to convince him we are still on his side
i feel bad for OG schaeffer
he was trapped alone in that sewer, we coulda talked it out.
at least tried to reason with him
for the sleepers, its impossible not to. you cant even imagine enduring eternal suffering like that.
Like they go to the new workd
They all sit down to watch the subset
Then some guy coughs
we said the same fucking thing
sharing the same braincell
this is what schaeffer looks like btw
way more rugged than i expected
like, how is he shaving down here?
i expected something like tom hanks in castaway
(more pics from r8 btw)
and another dead version of our squad
I fought it
which one?
there are multiple boss fights in r8
(sadly i didnt take any pics of the godzilla mother)
in hindsight i really should have
Small kraken
where?
i thought that guy was normal kraken size
He way smaller
yeah they do? wdym?
i'm not either, but they've got a face
it shows when we start the game on our KSO profile we are "infected", and one of our squad is a class-f "infected".
Maybe it does to the characters so they csn spend their last moments in relative peace
and given the amount of sleeper exposure in r8e2 its almost impossible to have not been infected,
Maybe the masks worked
the surfaces in kds-deep, the ksos in hydrostasis, just so many ways to gurantee infection
nam-v doesnt work like that
even full hazmat suits dont
Maybe all the sleeper attacks are blunt force trauma and they didn't pierce skin
hackett is just in a plain hoodie
also isnt one of our squad in a t-shirt and shorts?
with just a puffer vest as "protection"?
Daudas also bald
he should get a free 5% damage resist
are those shorts?
Yes
I mean
That's no vest
yes, shorts with... i dont wanna say stockings underneath but...
Also the armor plate cosmetic should give you 1% ff resistance
Crap
He looks in pain
what's woods got? i can never remember which is which between the two
LMAO i have one of those! why's he got a fishing vest on??
A what
in the apocalypse
fishing vest, cargo pants, t-shirt
everything is useful
a fishing vest
oh they are.
made of a thin fabric but enough so you don't get got by your own hooks
Dauda does have a vest
yeah, thats what i'm saying
aside from maybe the pants, the man is stacked
i think woods has probably got the best with those thick ass cargo pants
Yesh je looks ready fr
the only one who actually wears protection
Moves eyebrows

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Is there any confirmed correlation of the glow-stick colors to if your an alt-character or original?
Also what's the deal with the purple mission objectives?
is there any complete story on these 4 peeps? Cuz i really dont know anything at all
and what did they do that they are in the undergrounds
There are logs for that in r5 I believe, but you better check the wiki if you want to know their story
i see i see
Yeah the lore is more well defined on youtube and the wiki. The gist is santonian is a mining company that started a massive project that extends several thousand meters underground which unfortunately became subject to the nam-v outbreak
prolly i should watch gtfo lore
There are audio logs about characters backstory on a YouTube, worth to hear
i gotcha.
good..day everyone?
i have a question about sleepers
Who are they and what did they forgot in underground laboratory
sleepers r infected humans by a virus and a parasite in a cool relationship
sleepers infect the complex cause its all the people who used to work in there, mutating and mutating until they just kinda lived in every zone of it
basically,dead space
uh idk ded space but uh yeah sure :]
i mean
there was also a parasite that mutilated human bodies to infect more
but .. does this parasite revive people from dead?
Not really
the parasite keeps the host alive for a seemingly infinite amount of time
but it doesnt revive them
bru i was looking into some old stuff for fun
and realized at the start of the game in an interview one of the devs said the sleepers werenāt aliens or zombies
goes to show they really did switch up everything š
ig they technically werenāt lying the sleepers themselves arenāt fully alien
and idk why they did the whole demon tick thing to like not even make ticks a relevant point
Well... sleepers are technically part alien, because of the parasite, but they aren't zombies.
makes me more sad abt this game
thatās what iām saying
they said it wouldnāt be aliens
and they lied lmao š
goes to show iām pretty sure they looked into lore chat saw a good idea and built off of it
They also said they would never add back old rundowns, yet ALT// exists.
yeah
They have said a lot of things in the past.
my point is they went back on literally everything down to the very initial details of the game they mad
made*
itās sad to see
looking at the trailers from 2017 vs what we have now are entirely different games and concepts
It still doesn't have paid cosmetics or loot boxes
whenās the emotes and building coming
you mean the deranged mentally iāll head hitting
thatās so true
bro but literally i guessed aliens as a first thing back in r1 but then they denied that
so basically they threw everyone off until r6
when ppl were right all along š³
and it all started with a circle :o
I don't remember a lot of people theorizing anything like the aliens we have today back then.
Iirc it was mostly stuff about fungi and space rocks, like it rid the meteor here, not that it was a giant ass ship
i pretty much just thought it had to do with a foreign bacteria which is correct
but thatās pretty vague and obvious
LMAO
I was here back then. A looooooong time ago
when i heard it was actually a space ship i died a little
(Half a decade?)
5 years yeah
literally spent 5 years of my life waiting for this ending itās weird to think abt
i think if u showed me r8 in r1 i would literally froth at the mouth like a victorian child trying fanta
Gtfo had its ups and downs
Lore went nuts in ogr6
Before then, even through r4 and r5 it was very tame
went in the bad direction
literally went crazy insane
thing is you can tell when they realized they had a story and new how to execute it because they started lore dumping like crazy
Then it stabilized a lot with r6ex and we were pretty sure we could work with it, then we got r7 and they took the crack again.
Then they made alt and took the crack again.
thing is some of the logs still sound like they should be implement into a lore without weird aliens
Then everybody got bored because they took 6 months for only a couple alt rundowns and drug it out
Then they made alt//r6 and took the crack again
Then they made r8 and ran out of crack, so dove off a cliff
and iām saying rn thereās still plot holes bc interpretation is just a fancy word for āwe donāt rlly know could be anythingā
like why did dauda think this place was so big
what did they do there huh š¤ hmm š§
Schaeffer discrepancy since ogr6ex, not a single log ever to bother to try and patch it
anyways all of that to die in one of the shittiest e tiers to exist
kds deep
which somehow has many entrances that are much easier than r5e1
It is big. And he lost his memory of being a monster than conducted human experimentation.
Problem with that though was schaeffer had locked it down. We spent all of r5 getting it open again so warden could access it. After that opening the rest of the doors wouldn't be too bad for it.
Also, the worldlines merging into matter wave spaghetti. Could be different versions of deep combining so many extra doors/entrances
It's really funny for him to have no reaction to finding out he was the equivalent of a nazi scientist at a concentration camp
Have a read of the "for dummies" document in the pins of this channel. It will answer your question and so much more.
no yeah imagine you feel so bad for these people and then realizing you literally made them š
imo they all kinda deserved it
bishop the least but yk he did shady stuff
schaeffer especially deserves what happened to him, further if the mega pmom is actually his fault
they all kinda suck
eh true we shoulda just used the vents w schaeffer
i also find it funny that the only actual decent thing in this game really was warden
technically it is using bad people for something somewhat good
i read on wiki that it actually did have a goal of bringing humans in a non nam-v infested area
also i was thinking on how schaeffer mightāve had interactions with the warden prior (who knows how but itās interesting) and he did have a friend called artus and they gossiped abt everything
artus in 2043 was locked in the complex when the biocom system was going haywire ( which doesnāt happen) meaning alien intervention of sorts
he also āhallucinatedā actually aka saw something
which again we see the same experience with another person with an alien in the inner
frosty alien log was directed at schaeffer you said at some point right?
i based this off of that
unless you were talking about the unit
still a wacky idea I thought of
ok so lemme just ask something quick
basically there are 2 canonical ātimelinesā one with āschizo schaffer and warden badā and the other is āchillax schaffer and warden goodā right?
the OG rundowns being crazy schaffer, and the ALT rundowns being chill schaffer
so R8A1-R8E1 is the story with chill schaffer, and iām guessing A2-E2 is the crazy schaffer?
yup
mhm
ok so then my last question is, what happened in R8D1???
schaffer said to meet him in the gardens
and you get there and itās 4 dead prisoners
and he just magically somehow ended up with āthe other teamā
He actually said "I will check the Floodways, then meet you at the Gardens"
But as you might have figured out, something did not go according to plan
no iāll play it

yeah he did, he said he was gonna check the reactor coolant or whatever
The Cooling Tanks
ohh that makes sense why the objective for A2 is written so weird, cause the warden didnāt write it, schaffer and henriksson did
god i gotta play the other side
Yes
iāll be back when i play through that side
i lied iām back with more
LMAO
so then with the first part of R8, is that playing as the original prisoners from the OG rundowns? since the game first came out
iām so lost on who āthe other teamā is
there are new ones now?
you want a spoiler?
what level is it spoiling
||R8A1-R8E1 is ALT team||
||R8A2-R8E2 is OG team||
||both timelines merged into eachother, that other team, the people that had been talking through the VOYAGE biocom is our other us||
does this spoil the whole other side if i open it
it spoils all of R8 basically
GAHHHBB
but if you want to know
im gonna drop that when me and my friends get up to playing
why not E2? or is that just like not as lore packed
E2 is the ending
but i dont want to talk about it
if you want to experience the full thing
i think iād rather experience it
i really enjoy it all folding out in front of me like a book
more than reading a book report someone did 3 years ago about it
i will play it later today š«”
have you played any of it wild?
i am the master of spoiling things for myself
ok pablo i gotta ask one thing cause i accidentally spoiled it myself awhile ago
what is it
||there is an achievement to meet schaffer face to face, is that something that actually happens? like i thought it would in D1, just answer yes or no||
im trying to set up a date to play with my friends
D2
ok good then my excitement is still there
I thought it would happen at the end of D1 and i got sad it didnāt
iām really hoping the ending is good
the he ending of E1 was pretty cool
but E2 sounds even more coolerest
i havent reached any E's so far (furthest is B, since my and my friends cant play every day or weekend)
i am excited for the point we reach that
good luck š«”
thank you
wait.. how can alt dauda and bishop still be here if their bodies can be seen in ALT r6 ?
thatās what iām also wondering too
this shit wack yo
also is E1 called āValiantā ||because the ending is a valiant effort at trying to escape/survive?||
seems like it
P sure there are more than 2 teams
So u see another team
Or original alt squad. Idk
the real prisoners is the GTFO we made along the way
the real treasures are the NAM-V we got along the way :)
I think i am following some things... but...
i need to make sure i have this in my head
WRDN is Collectors both managing AltSchaeffer and (attempting) to manage OGSchaeffer as an asset
A.Schaeffer super giddy about assisting the warden
OGSchaeffer probably losing his damn mind and working against the warden
ASchaeffer has us collect data cubes
OG Schaeffer has us "steal" data cubes
ASchaeffer and OG Schaeffer duke it out?
but Aschaffer drowns in a sewer?
.....but both die?
But you maybe meet OG Schaeffer for realzies?
not sure coz i havent played R8 yet but the devs said "This time is different/same. The right/wrong place with the wrong/right people. How low/high will you/they go before you start/stop following orders? This is the end/beginning." when they announced the release of R8
so maybe they got OG Schaeffer but he doesnt wanna cooperate with WRDN so maybe he's the "Wrong" people
yes but also sorta no
thereās 3 sets of prisoners
the ones we play as in alt arenāt actually alt prisoners
considering we find the real ones dead and can assume they werenāt cloned
i know
but i call them alt team
since we play the alt levels as them
thereās the alt universe, main, and whatever nightmare dimension
so possibly nightmare prisoners šŖ³
THERE ARE THREEEEEE dimensions?!?!?!!?!?!
yeah fair
more
way more
but these are significant ones
as in we play as the characters, see them, and go into them
youāll notice in b2 we actually go to 3 pleases
places*
weāve never been to the corrupt universe this is the first time
and thereās an ending for each but ofc alt prisoners r already dead
in alt itās the meltdown
in the nightmare universe itās dying in a2 secondary
and for main itās going to the jungle planet
I am now following
i still don't understand the schaeffer timeline
but this was helpful
yeah that weird spore place is not alt
all 3 are merging
this why he have bits of alt and the nightmare enemies in main
and in alt too
so the place we go to in b1 i think, with the shit on the ceiling is an entirely new place
itās basically a universe where everything went super duper bad
i never picked up the nightmare dimesnion, but that clears soooo much up
i was wondering how there were "main dimension" enemies suddenly
if it has spores n stuff yeah
and looks funky
yeah all the gross ceiling tentacles and the weird lighting and heavy dust particles
and the weird colors
the things hanging from the ceiling and stuff yes
yup and in a2 we see some weird fleshy mass at the end
nothing weāve seen before
i feel like thereās a lot more going on than meets the eye
100%
itās a shame we wonāt get anything else after this either
god i gotta play the other half of R8
who knows maybe they will maybe they wonāt
iām stuck at work š
no they will deffiently leave GTFO to rot at the bottom of KDS deep
yeah itās a time consumer
especially the second half
bc everything is harder than e1 or a little easier
i might just use a console and get through it by myself just for the lore stuff
took me like a week and half to finish the first part, but iām too invested in this lore to wait that long again or longer š©
itās sooooooo slow, only thing it seems they have is the new guns and the 2 new enemies
yeah you get into the juicy stuff further in
itās honestly not the best gameplay wise
but there is some cool stuff
and they finally flooded floodways
still sad we never got the find eachother mission where we all spawn far away from eachother
ok one more, so i think it was B2? where when you first go to the red alpha and you see like 5 krakens in the air, is that also said nightmare dimension where everything is super fucked
thats alien dimension
o desert planet
the same place you visit in R6
yeah in the first few rundowns everything seem so disordered and every room just looked the same
it really is hell... felt like suffering playing through them sometimes despite still fun gameplay wise but felt like aimless wandering yk ?
not until the later rundowns we actually get to see the big picture and we the puzzles pieced together well and you felt like you had to go on
it literally felt like we didnāt know where we were
like i got confused several times
itās not explained very well or shown very well
exactly but i suppose it was meant for us to feel like that
to feel confused after deep hydrostasis and woken up for who knows how long and just told to go do stuff
immersion ... ? :D
and after some lore digging we finally knew what we were doing although it seemed like too much work to achieve so little
yeah which is atleast one name is Red Alpha, so is that all the same between the main, ALT, and nightmare dimensions? or is there a red alpha for each one
there is one destination id assume
its just one
or a destination that atleast connects everything
but i think itās more so the bridge between universes
go to the door
i wanna talk to warden
i wish there was an ending where we see the aliens like in subnautica
that would be really sick
so is E2 the actual ātrueā ending, or is there technically 2 because of the 2 separate teams
They are all the true ending
its just how it ends for different people
thats how i see it
that makes sense
its just an ending
and 1 for the other group
2
ah i see that makes sense
if u go to a2 secondary thereās a terminal that sends u to nightmare training
hah
thatās sick
if there are a billion dimensions then there is a "main.1 and main.2" group
funny door
u can see all the dead bodies and blood
all over the place too
where a bunch of people died
thats when you pick up the matterwaveprojector
right?
thats what you are referring to
i personally think itās just our main group
because we physically tp there
theres definitely 2 main groups if you think about it
just one in another worldline
yes but not for a2 ending
and one in OUR worldline
i still think its a troll ending
you can pick a path
iām glad they threw all this timey wimey alternate dimension space time continuum at the last rundown
this game can't have non-canon endings
the thing abt lore is that thereās always some reason
everytime we die could be considered canon
cause the devs would have to pick one
since well
where all the naughty prisoners go
"we lived a thousand lives, we died a thousand times"
it is canon
fair
clones biatch
we always win
waot
yeah
i think thats just a gameplay mechanic
not lore
also there is no prisioner clones of us
i thought we weren't clones, just diffrent dimensions
they made body optimization lore
literally made dissapearing enemies lore
i wouldnāt put it past being canon
that was around unit22 style body optimzation
where is miles morales to come save the canon
ALT team dying is a canon event
log**
"dimensions"
but we could also just be goatee
so the ALT team is the ones who actually die at the end of E1
goated*
yes
they arent the perfect squad
peculiar
no nightmare team but the alt players yes
like the team thatās in there
i was just dissatisfied that we didnāt get to see schaffer in D1, but iām told the story unveils itself in D2
i gotta stop edging spoiling myself
D2 is peak R8 lore
aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAA
I GOTTA PLAY IT
if anyone finds another voice 1 log i want to see it
i need to speed through r2 r3 r4 r5 r6 r7 to get to the real stuff D: ...
wait moms ?
yes
not really
you can skip to R8
i saw there was a āmega motherā somewhere in here, is that shown in the other half
id sugest you skip to R6 directly if you want experience the real shit
i thought it would maybe spawn at the last part of E1
yeah but i would be skipping stuff although i spoiled myself with the whole story already but i still wish to play it in order
it spawns striker and babyās and has a tongue and sacks everywhere sruff like that
no itās somewhere cool
youāll see
iāll find it eventually
so super mega mom spawns big moms which spawns regular moms... ?
LMAO
no thankfully
they just spawn strikers and babies
but can also attack like any other enemy
like it can attack and fend for itself
moms typically canāt fight back
spawns a tank
imagine
we never got the super mega tank
i mean they have to come from somewhere... right ? :D
Pablo could be considered a mega tank
Hmmmm
heās a grey scaled tank with no sacks
and heās silt
silly
we need mega super dad
ppl with anger issues
jk
my friend mustve hid lots of tanks somewhere š¤
Wut?
we need the blob back
that really old static enemy thing
the hanging sacks... imagine we got a more mutilated version of that which can respawn special enemies
Rundown 3
if you do R3D1 you can fight two!
(variants)
waiut
replied to the wrong text
that was for you inkius
lol
MegaMama only in R8
two VARIANTS ? okay there's more to this than i knew and thought
gotta try it after R2
there are apparently now "three"
variants is kind of like how there are regular strikers, and shadow strikers, and BIG strikers.
iām just assuming itās gonna explain it in the other parts
other half*
cause i thought KDS deep was like a giant area full of HSUs, but in the end of E1, itās a destroyed wasteland of nothing
we have been to KDS deep before right? donāt we go there in R5E1
Hmmm
It's the Text To Speech terminal thing you use to leave messages for the other team
ty
the mom logs i sent
shes the big mom most likely
meaning it involves actual motherhood for one but I have no clue what after that
It's more of speech to text to speech
theres logs about a woman who was being experimented on
they implanted some sort of sleeper fetus into her and forced her to give birth to it
but she goes insane and cuts it out
at first i didnt realize the relevance until we go into the bunker and see a really big pmom
thing is she mentions john in the logs too
and who do we associate with those bunkers?? schaeffer
and who do we kill in the bunker? schaeffer
woah š±
further if you read some logs schaeffer was doing a lot of stuff he wasnt supposed to be doing
like going to labs
and sneaking around with artus into places they shouldnt be looking at
so its either he knew of this mom or he had something to do with it
We don't kill him, the water kills himā¢ļø
uwu
tbh they wouldve looked a lot more mangled
that kind of suction into a tiny drain
like that was a ton of suction bro
final destination type stuff
so ur saying
so ig they just drowned rlly fast and hit their heads
wym last
in r2 we play a level i thin a2 we get pmom trial samples
isnt there like 10-15ish birthers in the game total r1-r7?
and we initially see a small mom
thing is i doubt they started big
i think they were building up to this big mom
R8 š
for what reason would they need that massive ass thing
i have no idea
:D
really i think theres more logs i havent found
no this is a GIANT
and schaeffer created it?
Only 2 pmom wdym
No like
and thats in r8?
srry caos
Wdym only 2 pmoms
pls tell me shes dead
Hf <3
u see
shes massive
she spawns strikers
like full grown adult strikers
has a tongue
like a giant tongue
and she can spawn babys
not normal sleepers?
no normals
im tryna say not babies
like she spawns the adult strikers
and she spawns the babies
Mori are you ok?
adult=big
no frank is big
Adult strikers are not bigs
adult striker is adult
who tf is frank now
frank and chicken
I feel like I'm watching 13 year olds argue over semantics
:3
let me google it on wiki hold on
giant = big
not giant = regular
child/baby = small
SEE
wym bro big guy is frank
????
what r u talkin bout
baby-fetus
that is not what this person just said
What
does she spawn big guys or normal sleepers
you are misappropriating my words
thats not a child
Also pachi autocorrects to Pancho
the sleepers r grown men
That's so real
and u said schaeffer created her? y tho
yeah but y tho
who knows bro
isnt it wardens? not schaeffer
wdym
the bunkers?
no warden doesnt know about the bunkers
theyre off course
in d2 were disconnected from warden
r8d2?
so in order to make a birther, a sleeper fetus or the baby one must be inside a preggo woman and the mother itself turns into a birther
Isn't it cw
makes no sense but ok
C2*
so we get objectives but from schaeffer
yes but in d2 we r disconnected
thats what im saying
is at that point we arent connected
Ah
I think we've been over the fact a while ago that it could technically be any old john
and we don't know for sure
if a preggo woman was infected with the virus or whatever it is
makes more sense but a living baby sleeper into a pregnant woman? what? how?
Technically that can mean both because english
:P
also i feel bad for that preggo woman
must have been painful af or sth idk
how did john even got his hand out on preggo woman in the first place
actually im american
soooo
(im kidding)
MERICA
he was sneaking around i guess not sure if its really his fault or if he snuck her off somewhere
maybe he was helping her
by implanting a living baby sleeper to her pregnant vagina? sure
no idk if he did that
u said he did
but im saying he either had a part in it or tried to help and left her
i said possibly
not technically but how else wouldl u explain it
im assuming
we dont have enough info
so r8 is live yes?
ye
8??? Technically
8 NEW ENEMIES!?
so theyr all variants or is there specifically new one?
whats with the half cut no upper body in devs leak?
u mean it can now melee?
what about the new 3 weapons? are they any good
or trash
any new tool weapon or melee?
meh
nope
6
did they buff or nerf anything at all?
guns, tools, enemies
why? i dont fucking know
sniper? why and how
we can't speculate on their reasons for nerfing/buffing
there's already been plenty of talk on the weapon changes anyway
sniper bullet or dmg?
Wouldn't make sense. He worked for santonian, he wouldn't have access to any of the KDS or Insight stuff
We have on logs of a santonian employee entering KDS territory and he was shot on sight
Cannonically, as how many different teams do we play as?
2?
but what about the A2 secondary? For example
or is that not cannon? If so, then how many different teams do we play as in general?
I get the feeling it's supposed to be a non-canon "took the wrong way" bad ending
like L4D's Lighthouse
a cautionary tale on the dangers of playing with the MWP
In that regard it is probably 3 (given they die at the end of a2 secondary), but it is 4 if you include the KSO you play as in the tutorial (even though we never see their squad).
Everything is canon in a different worldline
So only 4? Is there any other possibility that there's more?
Again, that was play as. There are an infinite number of our squad
i beat the game
i got the fuck out
so in the ending of E2 ||at the every end, your on the surface right?||
(And fucked anyone and everyone else in the process)
No need for spoiler tag and no.
You are on the jungle world alt//Durant went to.
ah ok i guess i never got that part, where do you hear about that?
You wouldn't need the MWP to go to the surface (and I don't think it would be able to without changing the worldline again)
yeah i guess that does make sense
One of the alt//r6 variant logs changed from the originals
yeah that makes sense
so basically he was the first dude there
do you know which log? or atleast what level
I do not remember where the log could be found.
You could find it on the wiki however, going to alt//r6 logs and searching for the world "durant"
Wait so Alt Schaefer says that we somehow stay clean unless we start interacting with others in R8C1. Does that mean the same for OG squad?
R6C2, Zone_127
Keep in mind he doesn't know the full extend of how the virus works, nobody does, not even the players, only us who read the logs (they forget in stasis after every mission)
Schaeffer said that at the start of the expedition, before our reinfection would likely be apparently present
Og squad certainly not. One of our squadmates is class f infected. (I forget which)
I thinks it's woods or who ever says "brothers"
Hydrostasis kills the virus tho, so how can he be class F?
Woods is the Christian who shot up an army base
it says in a log that hydrostasis kills the virus
only for more than 3 weeks in hydrostatis tho
so actually if we are being woken up everyday
we'd still have it

Nam-v works like a cancer. It's mutations are permanent parts of us. Hydrostasis kills it, but can't reverse the damage.
We are dying from nam-v slowly every time we leave for missions. Eventually it will catch up to us. @burnt wren did the math at one point how many expeditions our og squad has left before they start dropping like flies
and how many do we have left?
i need to know
I don't remember, and he left the channel to avoid spoilers. DM him
Generously assuming we take about 80 minutes on average to complete an expedition (wipes, restarts and checkpoints non-canon, of course), and knowing there are currently approx 82 expeditions - it means we spent AT MOST about
80x82 = 6560 minutes or ~110 hours or ~5 days outside of hydrostasis out of like 20+ required to finally kil you.
you telling me these 4 dudes spend 5 days doing all this shit
goddam our boys are badass
Even less actually, since Rundown 8 can be safely cut in half... Point still stands though. We're not even half through the incubation cycle for any serious symptoms to appear.
Although some of the recent logs i noticed seem to imply that hydrostasis does INDEED just straight up cures NAM-V.
One way or another: our lads are not coughing up their liquefied spines any time soon.
all this for a damn cliffhanger ending though
is the ending different if you skip secondary on r8e2?
you cant skip secondary
its mandatory
Why are you so sure upon contraction, irreversible mutations immediately start
What about incubation period or w/e
Don't viruses not start showing symptoms right off the bat
Kinda weird to assume we contract the virus and undergo fatal mutations in the course of 80 minutes
Especially if we purge it every time we go in an HSU
HSU kills the virus, and as missions are brief, I do not think the team is undergoing mutations fast enough, if at all, to kill them eventually
And honestly I do not think mutations over the course of 80 minutes are so severe that the body cannot recover from it, given how the mutations would have to be cumulative to mutate someone to the point of spine regurgitating
And since we get cleared in the HSU I don't see how the prisoners could not recover from them
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thanks man
Isn't the F in Woods' designation for "Faulty" when the interviewer suspected he's regressing in his post legion backstory log?
I only know their designation spell out GTFO lmao
But its likely coz woods was indeed insane due to his ptsd
Are there any lores related to r8a2 secondary? Or is the level simply an easter egg
an easter egg?
Anyone have like a complete timeline of everything?
Not just the logs in the notion
But also from the game dialogues
All compiled into a timeline
yes
its the ending to the nightmare universe
had we canonly gone there (technically do if there are two very similar main universe) thats how it would have ended
the nightmare universe is quite literally a nightmare as the virus is much stronger and much spookier
it also features a giant potato!
so that version of the main characters r massive lore nerds
hope this helps
devs when they need to bypass restrictions on advertisment for gtfo š„µ
"guys it doesnt stand for gtfo thats just their cute code name hehe :3"
basically the way nam-v works is it progresses extremely fast
as in cell death occurs at 5 weeks (or 6 weeks depending on universe)
hsus keep your cells completely frozen and thus in a way freeze your biological functions and allow your body to somewhat restore lost cells through whatever warden is feeding us (who tf knows)
some rando nutrient probe
we never get rid of it completely
Why do you think that?
knowing that if we are let out for a week then put in for only a small amount itll be less effective
I'm pretty sure there's multiple logs talking about HSU and it's virus killing abilities
if hsus were a complete cure dont u think they wouldve stuck everyone in one lol
I'm 100 sure one says "nothing survives the HSU unless we want it to"
The technology is basically a secret and it was used by some scientists
Also it causes memory damage so that's probably why not everyone used it

