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lilac island
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These maps look incredible

royal crow
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Dauda too

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idk if Hackett talks

lilac island
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Hope OG team lives a long fruitful life

royal crow
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after E2

lilac island
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Definitely won't have massive unbearable trauma

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And have infected yet another universe

eternal talon
royal crow
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which probably has the virus in it

lilac island
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Oh sick

eternal talon
lilac island
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They're gonna repopulate with steamy hot male intercourse

eternal talon
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then on the "clean" worldline with the ruins of KDS-Deep we drug through with us.

lilac island
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These ss are amazing

eternal talon
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very fucking cinematic.

lilac island
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Omg

eternal talon
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100% gonna steal a load of them for my mods.

lilac island
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Sunlight on trees

eternal talon
lilac island
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Hope.jpg

eternal talon
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LOOK GORDON, A NEW WORLD TO INFECT!

lilac island
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Yeah

eternal talon
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a new destination to create...

lilac island
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Maybe the virus can't survive on other frequency

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Jotunheim

eternal talon
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he left before the facility got overrun so was "saved"

lilac island
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Oh!

eternal talon
lilac island
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That's the best part of this

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What about that song

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Does it play on credits or

eternal talon
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no

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i was just listening to it while going through the photos of destroyed kds-deep

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felt super thematic to the hopeless fight to the death

lilac island
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Ok

royal crow
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man

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i was right

lilac island
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Will listen eventually

eternal talon
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was from a 40k necron tribute video

royal crow
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we were gonna have a final stand and die at the end

eternal talon
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(necron mains rejoice)

royal crow
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i told yall

eternal talon
lilac island
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Well

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I really wonder how the new life will go now

eternal talon
lilac island
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That's a good ending tho

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Like ok we left alt to die like pigs in the mud

eternal talon
royal crow
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idk if OG team really wanted to leave them behind

eternal talon
royal crow
eternal talon
royal crow
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but there was other choice?

eternal talon
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we could have let them come

lilac island
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I know it makes sense

royal crow
lilac island
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Blowtorch

eternal talon
eternal talon
royal crow
lilac island
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But what thePOINT ATHN

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Then

eternal talon
lilac island
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Ugh

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I am angry

royal crow
eternal talon
lilac island
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I need to fix my stupid pc so i can play r8

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Above 40fps

eternal talon
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i dont remember what was said exactly, but it was something along the lines of showing how hopeless the situation is

royal crow
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i like the ending

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no one won

lilac island
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Yes but don't just make it even worse like omg

eternal talon
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nam-v god mode and sleepers, there was never a chance for a successful escape

royal crow
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we all going to die

lilac island
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No

royal crow
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if alt team managed to survived enough time
the Nuclear meltdown would have wipped everyone anyways

lilac island
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The ending should have been the teams sending 2 neonates into the new world and letting them build a new world from scratch like adam and eve

eternal talon
# royal crow i like the ending

eh, i'd still rather side with schaeffer and have a rundown breaking out via cutting through the surface lockdown bulkheads, barely making it out before the reactors go critical, but i'm glad the game even has an ending.

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only thing im upset about is that we had to kill og schaeffer

royal crow
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we need the matter wave projector

lilac island
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Instead of waltzing in whoopty do NAMV

royal crow
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also he was crazy

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he left us with no other choice

eternal talon
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he thought we were working for the warden, even after we had our chips removed. idk why but i have a feeling it would have been possible to convince him we are still on his side

royal crow
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i feel bad for OG schaeffer

eternal talon
royal crow
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listening to him breaking down in D2

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is awful

eternal talon
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at least tried to reason with him

lilac island
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I feel bad for sleepers

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I feel bad in general

eternal talon
lilac island
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Like they go to the new workd

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They all sit down to watch the subset

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Then some guy coughs

eternal talon
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and one of them caughs

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hahahahhaha

lilac island
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Exactly

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Lmfao

eternal talon
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we said the same fucking thing

royal crow
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sharing the same braincell

lilac island
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Like the realisation settling in

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WAIT

royal crow
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"oh man we are fucked"

eternal talon
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this is what schaeffer looks like btw

royal crow
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honestly

eternal talon
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way more rugged than i expected

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like, how is he shaving down here?

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i expected something like tom hanks in castaway

royal crow
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schaeffer looks like a cool guy to hang out with

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when he isnt crazy

lilac island
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Great question

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Maybe if you starve hair doesn't grow

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And he was

eternal talon
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(more pics from r8 btw)

royal crow
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show the kraken

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the smol

eternal talon
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and another dead version of our squad

lilac island
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I fought it

eternal talon
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which one?

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there are multiple boss fights in r8

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(sadly i didnt take any pics of the godzilla mother)

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in hindsight i really should have

lilac island
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Small kraken

eternal talon
lilac island
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B1?

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Data cube formatting

eternal talon
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i thought that guy was normal kraken size

lilac island
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He way smaller

eternal talon
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why didnt he have a big head then if he was a baby?

lilac island
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They don't have heads

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I'm not a biologist

eternal talon
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yeah they do? wdym?

eternal talon
lilac island
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I guess

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Idk though maybe

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Just maybe

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We're not infected

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It makes no sense

eternal talon
lilac island
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Maybe it does to the characters so they csn spend their last moments in relative peace

eternal talon
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and given the amount of sleeper exposure in r8e2 its almost impossible to have not been infected,

lilac island
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Maybe the masks worked

eternal talon
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the surfaces in kds-deep, the ksos in hydrostasis, just so many ways to gurantee infection

eternal talon
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even full hazmat suits dont

lilac island
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Maybe all the sleeper attacks are blunt force trauma and they didn't pierce skin

eternal talon
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tongues are spiked

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i know it sucks but there is no winning this

lilac island
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Don't care we got kevlar

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Aaaaaaaa

eternal talon
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also isnt one of our squad in a t-shirt and shorts?

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with just a puffer vest as "protection"?

lilac island
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Probably

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Yes dauda i think

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Not even protection it's probably just cold

eternal talon
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nah, dauda has the kevlar vest

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he is like the only one actually with armor

fresh gyro
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Daudas also bald

eternal talon
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he should get a free 5% damage resist

fresh gyro
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And hoodless

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:P

royal crow
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are those shorts?

lilac island
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Yes

fresh gyro
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I mean

lilac island
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That's no vest

eternal talon
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yes, shorts with... i dont wanna say stockings underneath but...

fresh gyro
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Also the armor plate cosmetic should give you 1% ff resistance

lilac island
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Woll long Johns

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Wool

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It's cold in the complex

eternal talon
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sexy bishop

lilac island
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Crap

royal crow
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btw

lilac island
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He looks in pain

eternal talon
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what's woods got? i can never remember which is which between the two

royal crow
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this is my man bishop

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the most hated prisioner in all timelines

eternal talon
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LMAO i have one of those! why's he got a fishing vest on??

lilac island
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A what

royal crow
eternal talon
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fishing vest, cargo pants, t-shirt

royal crow
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everything is useful

eternal talon
royal crow
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they are using tools as weapons (fucking drill head as spear)

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lol

lilac island
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Lotsa pockets, maybe waterproof so no blood soaking in

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Practicality above all

eternal talon
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made of a thin fabric but enough so you don't get got by your own hooks

royal crow
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Dauda does have a vest

eternal talon
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aside from maybe the pants, the man is stacked

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i think woods has probably got the best with those thick ass cargo pants

lilac island
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Yesh je looks ready fr

royal crow
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the only one who actually wears protection

lilac island
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Moves eyebrows

royal crow
knotty jolt
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whats the doc containning all the lore again?

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like the full timeline and shit

rotund fable
coarse canyon
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šŸ˜›

gray veldt
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Is there any confirmed correlation of the glow-stick colors to if your an alt-character or original?

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Also what's the deal with the purple mission objectives?

sweet lark
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is there any complete story on these 4 peeps? Cuz i really dont know anything at all

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and what did they do that they are in the undergrounds

frail vessel
sweet lark
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i see i see

gray veldt
sweet lark
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prolly i should watch gtfo lore

frail vessel
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There are audio logs about characters backstory on a YouTube, worth to hear

sweet lark
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i gotcha.

low pagoda
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good..day everyone?
i have a question about sleepers
Who are they and what did they forgot in underground laboratory

raw terrace
raw terrace
low pagoda
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i mean
there was also a parasite that mutilated human bodies to infect more
but .. does this parasite revive people from dead?

coral gorge
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the parasite keeps the host alive for a seemingly infinite amount of time

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but it doesnt revive them

stone vine
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bru i was looking into some old stuff for fun

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and realized at the start of the game in an interview one of the devs said the sleepers weren’t aliens or zombies

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goes to show they really did switch up everything šŸ’€

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ig they technically weren’t lying the sleepers themselves aren’t fully alien

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and idk why they did the whole demon tick thing to like not even make ticks a relevant point

eternal talon
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Well... sleepers are technically part alien, because of the parasite, but they aren't zombies.

stone vine
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makes me more sad abt this game

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that’s what i’m saying

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they said it wouldn’t be aliens

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and they lied lmao šŸ’€

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goes to show i’m pretty sure they looked into lore chat saw a good idea and built off of it

eternal talon
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They also said they would never add back old rundowns, yet ALT// exists.

stone vine
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yeah

eternal talon
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They have said a lot of things in the past.

stone vine
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my point is they went back on literally everything down to the very initial details of the game they mad

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made*

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it’s sad to see

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looking at the trailers from 2017 vs what we have now are entirely different games and concepts

eternal talon
stone vine
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when’s the emotes and building coming

eternal talon
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We already have emotes. They are in the lobby screen

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They just play randomly

stone vine
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you mean the deranged mentally i’ll head hitting

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that’s so true

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bro but literally i guessed aliens as a first thing back in r1 but then they denied that

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so basically they threw everyone off until r6

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when ppl were right all along 😳

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and it all started with a circle :o

eternal talon
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I don't remember a lot of people theorizing anything like the aliens we have today back then.

stone vine
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yeah definitely not anything like it

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but the concept in general

eternal talon
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Iirc it was mostly stuff about fungi and space rocks, like it rid the meteor here, not that it was a giant ass ship

stone vine
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i pretty much just thought it had to do with a foreign bacteria which is correct

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but that’s pretty vague and obvious

eternal talon
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I was here back then. A looooooong time ago

stone vine
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when i heard it was actually a space ship i died a little

eternal talon
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(Half a decade?)

stone vine
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5 years yeah

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literally spent 5 years of my life waiting for this ending it’s weird to think abt

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i think if u showed me r8 in r1 i would literally froth at the mouth like a victorian child trying fanta

eternal talon
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Gtfo had its ups and downs

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Lore went nuts in ogr6

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Before then, even through r4 and r5 it was very tame

stone vine
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went in the bad direction

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literally went crazy insane

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thing is you can tell when they realized they had a story and new how to execute it because they started lore dumping like crazy

eternal talon
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Then it stabilized a lot with r6ex and we were pretty sure we could work with it, then we got r7 and they took the crack again.

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Then they made alt and took the crack again.

stone vine
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thing is some of the logs still sound like they should be implement into a lore without weird aliens

eternal talon
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Then everybody got bored because they took 6 months for only a couple alt rundowns and drug it out

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Then they made alt//r6 and took the crack again

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Then they made r8 and ran out of crack, so dove off a cliff

stone vine
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and i’m saying rn there’s still plot holes bc interpretation is just a fancy word for ā€œwe don’t rlly know could be anythingā€

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like why did dauda think this place was so big

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what did they do there huh šŸ¤” hmm 🧐

eternal talon
stone vine
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anyways all of that to die in one of the shittiest e tiers to exist

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kds deep

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which somehow has many entrances that are much easier than r5e1

eternal talon
stone vine
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šŸ˜

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i was kidding

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dauda voice lines r just funny

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what do u think they did here DaudaPing

eternal talon
# stone vine which somehow has many entrances that are much easier than r5e1

Problem with that though was schaeffer had locked it down. We spent all of r5 getting it open again so warden could access it. After that opening the rest of the doors wouldn't be too bad for it.

Also, the worldlines merging into matter wave spaghetti. Could be different versions of deep combining so many extra doors/entrances

eternal talon
eternal talon
stone vine
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imo they all kinda deserved it

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bishop the least but yk he did shady stuff

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schaeffer especially deserves what happened to him, further if the mega pmom is actually his fault

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they all kinda suck

stone vine
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i also find it funny that the only actual decent thing in this game really was warden

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technically it is using bad people for something somewhat good

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i read on wiki that it actually did have a goal of bringing humans in a non nam-v infested area

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also i was thinking on how schaeffer might’ve had interactions with the warden prior (who knows how but it’s interesting) and he did have a friend called artus and they gossiped abt everything

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artus in 2043 was locked in the complex when the biocom system was going haywire ( which doesn’t happen) meaning alien intervention of sorts

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he also ā€œhallucinatedā€ actually aka saw something

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which again we see the same experience with another person with an alien in the inner

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frosty alien log was directed at schaeffer you said at some point right?

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i based this off of that

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unless you were talking about the unit

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still a wacky idea I thought of

timid palm
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ok so lemme just ask something quick

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basically there are 2 canonical ā€œtimelinesā€ one with ā€œschizo schaffer and warden badā€ and the other is ā€œchillax schaffer and warden goodā€ right?

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the OG rundowns being crazy schaffer, and the ALT rundowns being chill schaffer

royal crow
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yes

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right

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they merge together in R8

timid palm
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so R8A1-R8E1 is the story with chill schaffer, and i’m guessing A2-E2 is the crazy schaffer?

royal crow
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yup

timid palm
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alright interesting

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so A2-E2 picks up where R7E1 left off right?

royal crow
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mhm

timid palm
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with the mainframe and blah blah

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wow i gotta play through the secret side now

royal crow
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well, now they are trying to blow up garganta

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so

timid palm
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ok so then my last question is, what happened in R8D1???

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schaffer said to meet him in the gardens

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and you get there and it’s 4 dead prisoners

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and he just magically somehow ended up with ā€œthe other teamā€

royal crow
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yeah

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you need to play the 2nd part

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i wont spoil

timid palm
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AAAAAAA

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ok i must

royal crow
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its explained in R8D2

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but i can spoil it to you

cunning light
timid palm
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no i’ll play it

royal crow
timid palm
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yeah he did, he said he was gonna check the reactor coolant or whatever

cunning light
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The Cooling Tanks

timid palm
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ohh that makes sense why the objective for A2 is written so weird, cause the warden didn’t write it, schaffer and henriksson did

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god i gotta play the other side

cunning light
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Yes

timid palm
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i’ll be back when i play through that side

royal crow
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good luck

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the 2nd part has some fucked up levels

plush mango
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i am afraid now to play it

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when i do

timid palm
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i lied i’m back with more

royal crow
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LMAO

timid palm
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so then with the first part of R8, is that playing as the original prisoners from the OG rundowns? since the game first came out

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i’m so lost on who ā€œthe other teamā€ is

plush mango
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there are new ones now?

royal crow
timid palm
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what level is it spoiling

royal crow
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||R8A1-R8E1 is ALT team||
||R8A2-R8E2 is OG team||
||both timelines merged into eachother, that other team, the people that had been talking through the VOYAGE biocom is our other us||

timid palm
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does this spoil the whole other side if i open it

royal crow
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it spoils all of R8 basically

timid palm
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GAHHHBB

royal crow
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but if you want to know

plush mango
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im gonna drop that when me and my friends get up to playing

royal crow
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without spoil

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make your way into R8D2

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or R8C2

timid palm
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why not E2? or is that just like not as lore packed

royal crow
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E2 is the ending

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but i dont want to talk about it

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if you want to experience the full thing

timid palm
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i think i’d rather experience it

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i really enjoy it all folding out in front of me like a book

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more than reading a book report someone did 3 years ago about it

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i will play it later today 🫔

royal crow
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R8 2nd part is very lore packed

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so pay attention to everything

plush mango
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i will play too as soon as my friends can!

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R8 sounds cool

timid palm
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have you played any of it wild?

plush mango
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not yet

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we havent got around to it yet

timid palm
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THEN WHAT ARE YOH IN HERE FOR!

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don’t spoil it for yourself

plush mango
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i am the master of spoiling things for myself

royal crow
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lol

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i spoiled everything myself here

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but there is still a lot of surprises

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in R8

plush mango
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what did u think happend with RDR2

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i probably wont look to much here anyway

timid palm
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ok pablo i gotta ask one thing cause i accidentally spoiled it myself awhile ago

plush mango
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or ill forget

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one of the two

timid palm
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||there is an achievement to meet schaffer face to face, is that something that actually happens? like i thought it would in D1, just answer yes or no||

plush mango
timid palm
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ok good then my excitement is still there

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I thought it would happen at the end of D1 and i got sad it didn’t

plush mango
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i also am excited to play again

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or get to the end of rundowns

timid palm
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i’m really hoping the ending is good

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the he ending of E1 was pretty cool

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but E2 sounds even more coolerest

plush mango
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i havent reached any E's so far (furthest is B, since my and my friends cant play every day or weekend)

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i am excited for the point we reach that

timid palm
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good luck 🫔

plush mango
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thank you

bright phoenix
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wait.. how can alt dauda and bishop still be here if their bodies can be seen in ALT r6 ?

timid palm
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that’s what i’m also wondering too

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this shit wack yo

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also is E1 called ā€œValiantā€ ||because the ending is a valiant effort at trying to escape/survive?||

bright phoenix
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seems like it

peak frigate
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P sure there are more than 2 teams

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So u see another team

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Or original alt squad. Idk

timid palm
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the real prisoners is the GTFO we made along the way

bright phoenix
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the real treasures are the NAM-V we got along the way :)

coarse canyon
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I think i am following some things... but...

i need to make sure i have this in my head

WRDN is Collectors both managing AltSchaeffer and (attempting) to manage OGSchaeffer as an asset

A.Schaeffer super giddy about assisting the warden
OGSchaeffer probably losing his damn mind and working against the warden

ASchaeffer has us collect data cubes
OG Schaeffer has us "steal" data cubes

ASchaeffer and OG Schaeffer duke it out?

but Aschaffer drowns in a sewer?

.....but both die?

But you maybe meet OG Schaeffer for realzies?

bright phoenix
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not sure coz i havent played R8 yet but the devs said "This time is different/same. The right/wrong place with the wrong/right people. How low/high will you/they go before you start/stop following orders? This is the end/beginning." when they announced the release of R8

so maybe they got OG Schaeffer but he doesnt wanna cooperate with WRDN so maybe he's the "Wrong" people

stone vine
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there’s 3 sets of prisoners

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the ones we play as in alt aren’t actually alt prisoners

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considering we find the real ones dead and can assume they weren’t cloned

royal crow
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but i call them alt team
since we play the alt levels as them

stone vine
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there’s the alt universe, main, and whatever nightmare dimension

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so possibly nightmare prisoners 🪳

coarse canyon
stone vine
coarse canyon
stone vine
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way more

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but these are significant ones

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as in we play as the characters, see them, and go into them

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you’ll notice in b2 we actually go to 3 pleases

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places*

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we’ve never been to the corrupt universe this is the first time

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and there’s an ending for each but ofc alt prisoners r already dead

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in alt it’s the meltdown

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in the nightmare universe it’s dying in a2 secondary

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and for main it’s going to the jungle planet

coarse canyon
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I am now following

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i still don't understand the schaeffer timeline

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but this was helpful

stone vine
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yeah that weird spore place is not alt

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all 3 are merging

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this why he have bits of alt and the nightmare enemies in main

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and in alt too

timid palm
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so the place we go to in b1 i think, with the shit on the ceiling is an entirely new place

stone vine
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it’s basically a universe where everything went super duper bad

coarse canyon
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i never picked up the nightmare dimesnion, but that clears soooo much up

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i was wondering how there were "main dimension" enemies suddenly

stone vine
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and looks funky

timid palm
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yeah all the gross ceiling tentacles and the weird lighting and heavy dust particles

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and the weird colors

stone vine
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the things hanging from the ceiling and stuff yes

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yup and in a2 we see some weird fleshy mass at the end

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nothing we’ve seen before

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i feel like there’s a lot more going on than meets the eye

timid palm
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100%

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it’s a shame we won’t get anything else after this either

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god i gotta play the other half of R8

stone vine
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who knows maybe they will maybe they won’t

timid palm
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i’m stuck at work 😭

timid palm
stone vine
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yeah it’s a time consumer

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especially the second half

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bc everything is harder than e1 or a little easier

timid palm
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i might just use a console and get through it by myself just for the lore stuff

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took me like a week and half to finish the first part, but i’m too invested in this lore to wait that long again or longer 😩

stone vine
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yeah hoping the wiki updates

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i am too lazy to find logs myself

timid palm
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it’s sooooooo slow, only thing it seems they have is the new guns and the 2 new enemies

stone vine
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yeah you get into the juicy stuff further in

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it’s honestly not the best gameplay wise

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but there is some cool stuff

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and they finally flooded floodways

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still sad we never got the find eachother mission where we all spawn far away from eachother

timid palm
#

ok one more, so i think it was B2? where when you first go to the red alpha and you see like 5 krakens in the air, is that also said nightmare dimension where everything is super fucked

royal crow
#

o desert planet

#

the same place you visit in R6

bright phoenix
# stone vine it’s honestly not the best gameplay wise

yeah in the first few rundowns everything seem so disordered and every room just looked the same

it really is hell... felt like suffering playing through them sometimes despite still fun gameplay wise but felt like aimless wandering yk ?

not until the later rundowns we actually get to see the big picture and we the puzzles pieced together well and you felt like you had to go on

stone vine
#

like i got confused several times

#

it’s not explained very well or shown very well

bright phoenix
#

immersion ... ? :D

#

and after some lore digging we finally knew what we were doing although it seemed like too much work to achieve so little

timid palm
# royal crow thats alien dimension

yeah which is atleast one name is Red Alpha, so is that all the same between the main, ALT, and nightmare dimensions? or is there a red alpha for each one

stone vine
stone vine
#

or a destination that atleast connects everything

#

but i think it’s more so the bridge between universes

stone vine
#

i wanna talk to warden

#

i wish there was an ending where we see the aliens like in subnautica

timid palm
#

that would be really sick

#

so is E2 the actual ā€œtrueā€ ending, or is there technically 2 because of the 2 separate teams

coarse canyon
#

its just how it ends for different people

#

thats how i see it

timid palm
#

that makes sense

stone vine
#

ye

#

there’s 2 endings for the main group

stone vine
#

and 1 for the other group

royal crow
stone vine
#

LMAO

#

yes

timid palm
#

ah i see that makes sense

stone vine
#

if u go to a2 secondary there’s a terminal that sends u to nightmare training

timid palm
#

hah

stone vine
#

training gone bad

#

and u get killed by every enemy ever

royal crow
#

people dying in training

#

smh

timid palm
#

that’s sick

coarse canyon
timid palm
coarse canyon
#

one version of Main.1 enters nightmare training

#

one version of main.2 doesn't

stone vine
#

u can see all the dead bodies and blood

#

all over the place too

#

where a bunch of people died

coarse canyon
#

thats when you pick up the matterwaveprojector

#

right?

#

thats what you are referring to

stone vine
#

because we physically tp there

coarse canyon
#

that dies onces or doesn't die?

#

one group can't have two states

royal crow
#

just one in another worldline

stone vine
#

yes but not for a2 ending

royal crow
#

and one in OUR worldline

stone vine
#

it’s not a super canon ending

#

it’s like a side ending

royal crow
#

i still think its a troll ending

stone vine
#

you can pick a path

timid palm
#

i’m glad they threw all this timey wimey alternate dimension space time continuum at the last rundown

coarse canyon
stone vine
royal crow
coarse canyon
#

cause the devs would have to pick one

royal crow
#

since well

timid palm
#

where all the naughty prisoners go

royal crow
#

"we lived a thousand lives, we died a thousand times"

stone vine
stone vine
#

we do we did all the time and get replaced

#

die*

#

warden just gets more of us lol

royal crow
#

we are the perfect squad

timid palm
#

clones biatch

royal crow
#

we always win

stone vine
#

first trying everything is crazy

#

but checkpoints prove we do die

coarse canyon
stone vine
#

yeah

royal crow
#

not lore

#

also there is no prisioner clones of us

coarse canyon
#

i thought we weren't clones, just diffrent dimensions

stone vine
#

they made body optimization lore

#

literally made dissapearing enemies lore

#

i wouldn’t put it past being canon

coarse canyon
royal crow
#

clones

timid palm
#

where is miles morales to come save the canon

stone vine
#

we can also see shit tons of versions of ourselves on a terminal

#

there’s a lot

royal crow
stone vine
#

log**

stone vine
#

but we could also just be goatee

timid palm
stone vine
#

goated*

royal crow
#

they arent the perfect squad

timid palm
#

peculiar

stone vine
#

like the team that’s in there

timid palm
#

i gotta play the other half of this rundown

#

4 more hours and i can go home 😭

stone vine
#

yes it’s fun i hope u enjoy

#

the schaeffer stuff is cool

#

i want to see an alien

timid palm
#

i was just dissatisfied that we didn’t get to see schaffer in D1, but i’m told the story unveils itself in D2

#

i gotta stop edging spoiling myself

royal crow
#

D2 is peak R8 lore

timid palm
#

aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAA

stone vine
#

and we actually kinda know how moms are actually made now

#

only briefly

timid palm
#

I GOTTA PLAY IT

stone vine
#

if anyone finds another voice 1 log i want to see it

bright phoenix
#

i need to speed through r2 r3 r4 r5 r6 r7 to get to the real stuff D: ...

#

wait moms ?

stone vine
#

yes

royal crow
#

you can skip to R8

timid palm
#

i saw there was a ā€œmega motherā€ somewhere in here, is that shown in the other half

stone vine
#

that’s what it is

#

yes

#

it’s like a mega super mom

royal crow
timid palm
#

i thought it would maybe spawn at the last part of E1

bright phoenix
# royal crow you can skip to R8

yeah but i would be skipping stuff although i spoiled myself with the whole story already but i still wish to play it in order

stone vine
#

it spawns striker and baby’s and has a tongue and sacks everywhere sruff like that

#

no it’s somewhere cool

#

you’ll see

timid palm
#

i’ll find it eventually

bright phoenix
#

so super mega mom spawns big moms which spawns regular moms... ?

stone vine
#

LMAO

#

no thankfully

#

they just spawn strikers and babies

#

but can also attack like any other enemy

#

like it can attack and fend for itself

#

moms typically can’t fight back

royal crow
#

imagine

stone vine
#

we never got the super mega tank

bright phoenix
royal crow
stone vine
#

no

#

pablo is just aids

fresh gyro
#

Hmmmm

stone vine
#

he’s a grey scaled tank with no sacks

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and he’s silt

#

silly

#

we need mega super dad

stone vine
#

jk

bright phoenix
#

my friend mustve hid lots of tanks somewhere šŸ¤”

bright phoenix
timid palm
#

that really old static enemy thing

bright phoenix
#

the hanging sacks... imagine we got a more mutilated version of that which can respawn special enemies

coarse canyon
bright phoenix
#

yeah just remembered mothers existed

#

really want to fight one of those

coarse canyon
#

(variants)

#

waiut

#

replied to the wrong text

#

that was for you inkius

#

lol

#

MegaMama only in R8

bright phoenix
#

gotta try it after R2

coarse canyon
#

variants is kind of like how there are regular strikers, and shadow strikers, and BIG strikers.

fresh gyro
#

Hilarious

coarse canyon
#

oh

#

the KDS Deep message just disappeared

timid palm
#

i’m just assuming it’s gonna explain it in the other parts

#

other half*

#

cause i thought KDS deep was like a giant area full of HSUs, but in the end of E1, it’s a destroyed wasteland of nothing

#

we have been to KDS deep before right? don’t we go there in R5E1

coarse canyon
#

Patch notes refer to "Vogen"

#

what is that referring to?

fresh gyro
#

Hmmm

short gazelle
coarse canyon
#

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

#

that explains

stone vine
#

shes the big mom most likely

#

meaning it involves actual motherhood for one but I have no clue what after that

fresh gyro
stone vine
#

they implanted some sort of sleeper fetus into her and forced her to give birth to it

#

but she goes insane and cuts it out

#

at first i didnt realize the relevance until we go into the bunker and see a really big pmom

#

thing is she mentions john in the logs too

#

and who do we associate with those bunkers?? schaeffer

#

and who do we kill in the bunker? schaeffer

#

woah 😱

#

further if you read some logs schaeffer was doing a lot of stuff he wasnt supposed to be doing

#

like going to labs

#

and sneaking around with artus into places they shouldnt be looking at

#

so its either he knew of this mom or he had something to do with it

fresh gyro
#

We don't kill him, the water kills himā„¢ļø

stone vine
#

LMAO

#

i didnt shoot him, the gun did :D

fresh gyro
#

uwu

stone vine
#

tbh they wouldve looked a lot more mangled

#

that kind of suction into a tiny drain

#

like that was a ton of suction bro

#

final destination type stuff

frank shore
#

so ur saying

stone vine
#

so ig they just drowned rlly fast and hit their heads

frank shore
#

schaeffer created and experimented the very first mom?

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or birther

stone vine
#

not the first

#

likely the last

#

but its possible

frank shore
#

wym last

stone vine
#

in r2 we play a level i thin a2 we get pmom trial samples

frank shore
#

isnt there like 10-15ish birthers in the game total r1-r7?

stone vine
#

and we initially see a small mom

#

thing is i doubt they started big

#

i think they were building up to this big mom

stone vine
#

for what reason would they need that massive ass thing

#

i have no idea

#

:D

#

really i think theres more logs i havent found

frank shore
#

big mom a in big birther?

#

theres only 2 right

#

or is that the third one

stone vine
#

no this is a GIANT

frank shore
#

and schaeffer created it?

stone vine
#

like 3x the size of pmom atleast

#

maybe

fresh gyro
#

Only 2 pmom wdym

stone vine
#

NO

#

ill show u

fresh gyro
#

No like

frank shore
#

and thats in r8?

stone vine
#

srry caos

fresh gyro
#

Wdym only 2 pmoms

frank shore
#

pls tell me shes dead

stone vine
#

we kill her

#

so uh

fresh gyro
#

Hf <3

stone vine
#

u see

#

shes massive

#

she spawns strikers

#

like full grown adult strikers

#

has a tongue

#

like a giant tongue

frank shore
#

u mean big guy?

#

giant striker?

stone vine
#

and she can spawn babys

frank shore
#

not normal sleepers?

stone vine
#

no normals

#

im tryna say not babies

#

like she spawns the adult strikers

#

and she spawns the babies

frank shore
#

thats a big guy

#

just say sleeper for normal common one

fresh gyro
#

Mori are you ok?

frank shore
#

adult=big

stone vine
#

no frank is big

fresh gyro
#

Adult strikers are not bigs

stone vine
#

adult striker is adult

frank shore
#

who tf is frank now

stone vine
#

frank and chicken

loud urchin
#

I feel like I'm watching 13 year olds argue over semantics

stone vine
#

:3

frank shore
#

let me google it on wiki hold on

loud urchin
#

giant = big
not giant = regular
child/baby = small

frank shore
#

SEE

stone vine
#

wym bro big guy is frank

frank shore
#

giant-adult

#

sleeper-normal

fresh gyro
#

????

stone vine
#

what r u talkin bout

frank shore
#

baby-fetus

stone vine
#

that is not what this person just said

fresh gyro
#

What

frank shore
#

does she spawn big guys or normal sleepers

loud urchin
#

you are misappropriating my words

fresh gyro
#

Pachi said nothing about adult

#

Lmao

stone vine
#

normals ;-;

#

theyre adults

frank shore
#

THANK U

#

normals

stone vine
#

thats not a child

fresh gyro
#

Also pachi autocorrects to Pancho

stone vine
#

the sleepers r grown men

fresh gyro
#

That's so real

frank shore
#

and u said schaeffer created her? y tho

stone vine
#

because it points to it his name is john

#

bunkers are his whole thing

frank shore
#

yeah but y tho

stone vine
#

who knows bro

frank shore
stone vine
#

wdym

#

the bunkers?

#

no warden doesnt know about the bunkers

#

theyre off course

#

in d2 were disconnected from warden

frank shore
stone vine
#

yes

#

we get our brain chips disconnected

frank shore
#

so in order to make a birther, a sleeper fetus or the baby one must be inside a preggo woman and the mother itself turns into a birther

fresh gyro
#

Isn't it cw

frank shore
#

makes no sense but ok

fresh gyro
#

C2*

stone vine
#

so we get objectives but from schaeffer

stone vine
#

thats what im saying

#

is at that point we arent connected

fresh gyro
#

Ah

loud urchin
#

I think we've been over the fact a while ago that it could technically be any old john

#

and we don't know for sure

frank shore
#

if a preggo woman was infected with the virus or whatever it is
makes more sense but a living baby sleeper into a pregnant woman? what? how?

fresh gyro
#

:P

frank shore
#

also i feel bad for that preggo woman

#

must have been painful af or sth idk

#

how did john even got his hand out on preggo woman in the first place

stone vine
#

soooo

#

(im kidding)

fresh gyro
#

MERICA

stone vine
#

maybe he was helping her

frank shore
#

by implanting a living baby sleeper to her pregnant vagina? sure

stone vine
#

no idk if he did that

frank shore
#

u said he did

stone vine
#

but im saying he either had a part in it or tried to help and left her

#

i said possibly

frank shore
#

not technically but how else wouldl u explain it

stone vine
#

im assuming

stone vine
frank shore
#

so r8 is live yes?

stone vine
#

ye

fresh gyro
#

Yes

#

Go play it

#

:P

#

Enjoy

frank shore
#

how many new enemies exactly

#

cuz some ppl saying its only 1
some says 2
some say 3

fresh gyro
#

8??? Technically

frank shore
#

8 NEW ENEMIES!?

fresh gyro
#

Varients of old enemies ig

#

If you wanna call it that

stone vine
#

yes theyre kinda new but not rlly

#

theyre from a diff dimension

frank shore
#

dimension?

#

like soundwave projector the flying vagina tentacle ones?

fresh gyro
#

Striker shooter giant baby scout mom

#

Wait I can't count

#

Whopsies

frank shore
#

ur shitting me

#

8 new variants

fresh gyro
#

Might be 6

#

My counting is iffy

frank shore
#

so theyr all variants or is there specifically new one?

#

whats with the half cut no upper body in devs leak?

fresh gyro
#

The shooter can tongue

#

uwu

frank shore
#

u mean it can now melee?

fresh gyro
#

The striker charger melees for 16 damage each hit

#

uwu

frank shore
#

cant wait to read them in wiki

#

sadly its not in there yet

fresh gyro
#

Not in there

#

:P

frank shore
#

what about the new 3 weapons? are they any good

#

or trash

#

any new tool weapon or melee?

royal crow
royal crow
frank shore
#

did they buff or nerf anything at all?

royal crow
#

buffed scattergun

frank shore
#

guns, tools, enemies

royal crow
#

why? i dont fucking know

frank shore
#

sniper? why and how

loud urchin
#

we can't speculate on their reasons for nerfing/buffing

#

there's already been plenty of talk on the weapon changes anyway

frank shore
#

sniper bullet or dmg?

eternal talon
#

We have on logs of a santonian employee entering KDS territory and he was shot on sight

brazen edge
#

Cannonically, as how many different teams do we play as?

fresh gyro
#

2?

brazen edge
#

but what about the A2 secondary? For example

#

or is that not cannon? If so, then how many different teams do we play as in general?

rain heron
#

I get the feeling it's supposed to be a non-canon "took the wrong way" bad ending
like L4D's Lighthouse
a cautionary tale on the dangers of playing with the MWP

eternal talon
eternal talon
brazen edge
timid palm
#

alright

#

im back

eternal talon
timid palm
#

i beat the game

#

i got the fuck out

#

so in the ending of E2 ||at the every end, your on the surface right?||

eternal talon
eternal talon
timid palm
#

so then

#

?

eternal talon
#

You are on the jungle world alt//Durant went to.

timid palm
#

ah ok i guess i never got that part, where do you hear about that?

eternal talon
#

You wouldn't need the MWP to go to the surface (and I don't think it would be able to without changing the worldline again)

timid palm
#

yeah i guess that does make sense

eternal talon
timid palm
#

yeah that makes sense

#

so basically he was the first dude there

#

do you know which log? or atleast what level

eternal talon
#

I do not remember where the log could be found.

#

You could find it on the wiki however, going to alt//r6 logs and searching for the world "durant"

leaden olive
#

Wait so Alt Schaefer says that we somehow stay clean unless we start interacting with others in R8C1. Does that mean the same for OG squad?

brazen edge
eternal talon
#

Schaeffer said that at the start of the expedition, before our reinfection would likely be apparently present

eternal talon
leaden olive
tame goblet
eternal talon
#

Woods is the Christian who shot up an army base

tame goblet
#

it says in a log that hydrostasis kills the virus

#

only for more than 3 weeks in hydrostatis tho

#

so actually if we are being woken up everyday

#

we'd still have it

eternal talon
# tame goblet Hydrostasis kills the virus tho, so how can he be class F?

Nam-v works like a cancer. It's mutations are permanent parts of us. Hydrostasis kills it, but can't reverse the damage.

We are dying from nam-v slowly every time we leave for missions. Eventually it will catch up to us. @burnt wren did the math at one point how many expeditions our og squad has left before they start dropping like flies

royal crow
#

i need to know

eternal talon
#

I don't remember, and he left the channel to avoid spoilers. DM him

burnt wren
# royal crow and how many do we have left?

Generously assuming we take about 80 minutes on average to complete an expedition (wipes, restarts and checkpoints non-canon, of course), and knowing there are currently approx 82 expeditions - it means we spent AT MOST about
80x82 = 6560 minutes or ~110 hours or ~5 days outside of hydrostasis out of like 20+ required to finally kil you.

manic shuttle
#

you telling me these 4 dudes spend 5 days doing all this shit

#

goddam our boys are badass

burnt wren
#

Even less actually, since Rundown 8 can be safely cut in half... Point still stands though. We're not even half through the incubation cycle for any serious symptoms to appear.
Although some of the recent logs i noticed seem to imply that hydrostasis does INDEED just straight up cures NAM-V.
One way or another: our lads are not coughing up their liquefied spines any time soon.

rain heron
#

all this for a damn cliffhanger ending though

uncut quest
#

is the ending different if you skip secondary on r8e2?

royal crow
#

its mandatory

crisp citrus
#

What about incubation period or w/e

#

Don't viruses not start showing symptoms right off the bat

#

Kinda weird to assume we contract the virus and undergo fatal mutations in the course of 80 minutes

#

Especially if we purge it every time we go in an HSU

#

HSU kills the virus, and as missions are brief, I do not think the team is undergoing mutations fast enough, if at all, to kill them eventually

#

And honestly I do not think mutations over the course of 80 minutes are so severe that the body cannot recover from it, given how the mutations would have to be cumulative to mutate someone to the point of spine regurgitating

#

And since we get cleared in the HSU I don't see how the prisoners could not recover from them

serene mauve
bright phoenix
#

I only know their designation spell out GTFO lmao

#

But its likely coz woods was indeed insane due to his ptsd

broken oriole
#

Are there any lores related to r8a2 secondary? Or is the level simply an easter egg

leaden olive
#

an easter egg?

knotty jolt
#

Anyone have like a complete timeline of everything?

#

Not just the logs in the notion

#

But also from the game dialogues

#

All compiled into a timeline

stone vine
#

yeah theres a timeline but not that in depth

#

and not up to date

#

:p

stone vine
#

its the ending to the nightmare universe

#

had we canonly gone there (technically do if there are two very similar main universe) thats how it would have ended

#

the nightmare universe is quite literally a nightmare as the virus is much stronger and much spookier

#

it also features a giant potato!

#

so that version of the main characters r massive lore nerds

#

hope this helps

stone vine
#

"guys it doesnt stand for gtfo thats just their cute code name hehe :3"

stone vine
#

as in cell death occurs at 5 weeks (or 6 weeks depending on universe)

#

hsus keep your cells completely frozen and thus in a way freeze your biological functions and allow your body to somewhat restore lost cells through whatever warden is feeding us (who tf knows)

#

some rando nutrient probe

#

we never get rid of it completely

crisp citrus
#

Why do you think that?

stone vine
#

knowing that if we are let out for a week then put in for only a small amount itll be less effective

crisp citrus
#

I'm pretty sure there's multiple logs talking about HSU and it's virus killing abilities

stone vine
#

if hsus were a complete cure dont u think they wouldve stuck everyone in one lol

crisp citrus
#

I'm 100 sure one says "nothing survives the HSU unless we want it to"

crisp citrus
#

Also it causes memory damage so that's probably why not everyone used it

stone vine
#

i mean death or memory damage you choose

#

me personally id go for mem damage

crisp citrus
#

Yes that's what one scientist did

#

It's in the log where he talks about how he hadn't changed his mask in two years or something

#

And that he used the HSU periodically to cleanse himself but he could tell it was slowly hurting memory

stone vine
#

ok i looked into it, technically yes they do kill nam-v and the parasite off if youre in for long enough

#

key word "long enough"