gtfo-lore

[lilac island]

deformation of the spine

i still wanna know how all those teams of people stayed not infected up in the surface

mr truth, operation sunshine or whatever the patient zero team name was

you eventually need to take the hazmat suit off

or your gas mask

Mr truth is probably from isolation

relatively sure namv is airborne

goes through all mediums

That doesn't mean it can live off of the air alone

[eternal talon]

there is also evidence for cranial issues.
Yeah. I can't sleep. I just... can't sleep. And headaches. Can give me something for the headaches?, I cannot shake this sickness. I feel better for short periods but then it returns. My head is heavy. My brain feels damp. At times I feel like something is living inside me. Ugh. There is too much work to do, and too many leeches sucking on my blood. Physical weakness is a vulnerability to these parasites., I know what people say about this place but I did not imagine this. Look at my head! It's raw! Fuck, I just need something to—, Yes, but I didn't... I woke up and felt something crawling on my head so I went to the bathroom, but when I turned on the light it... it disappeared.,

[lilac island]

Still dies out without a host

[eternal talon]

very, true though iirc we are told it can survive weeks on still surfaces.

[lilac island]

Living in complete isolation is pretty good for avoiding mass disease

you need to eat and you need to drink

you will come into contact with living things

[eternal talon]

i agree. The only thing that can stop nam-v from killing you IS complete and total isolation. something like greenland or svalbard.

[lilac island]

Boiling water and cooking food probably also kills the disease

and then you die a happy starvation death

that's seems a bit too easy

[eternal talon]

thats primarily why the presence of the parasite makes it a game-over scenario

it will never not be a problem

it will always be able to wait you out

[final sentinel]

Is the parasite ever named btw?

[lilac island]

actually we dunno what namv can and cant survived

[eternal talon]

yes.

[final sentinel]

Like a scientific or even common name

[eternal talon]

"Parasitidae Garganta"

then we also have the names for many of its different subspecies

[lilac island]

because in some log they say that standard decontamination proceedures or like precautions aren't working

could be resistant to heat

[final sentinel]

ok cool that actually works out well for my theories

[lilac island]

its not from earth it can be made with whatever

could be made out of silicone or something

[eternal talon]

on earth, Parasitidae refers to a family of predatory mites
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitidae

[lilac island]

Standard decontamination has nothing to do with heat (source: decontamination packs and station)

[eternal talon]

so its probably the closest native similar species

[final sentinel]

so there could theoretically be multiple subspecies of mites in garganta

[eternal talon]

there are.

i can give the subspecies again. give me a moment

[final sentinel]

oh yeah the ones from R3A1

The documented ones

[eternal talon]

### Entry: Gallus {genus}
Poss. intro? fix end bit
/quote
There are cross-species behavioral distinctions that separate all species within the genus. The dark-skinned variants tend to be more active hunters, suggesting the darker pigmentation is a product of natural selection. They are harder to see and therefore more successful predators. The light skinned breed are still vicious and will attack at the slightest provocation, but they do not seek the prey as actively, they are more disposed to sedentary, almost somnific, behavior. They wait, and strike when roused.
/quote

**### Entry: Gallus Reptus
Paragraph on:

• Reptus show little signs of intelligence beyond their predatory instincts. Clarify the intraspecific devolution theory?
• possibility of structured hierarchy among the pack, and the role of Reptus in that hierarchy
• possibility that Reptus are a post-metamorphic stage of Jaculus? Note no confirmed sightings of Jaculus in a pupal state.
• NEED DNA SAMPLE**

**### Entry: Gallus Jaculus

• more intelligent than Reptus, or given a more strategic role in the hive?
• what are the implications of emergent intelligence.
• potential human connection/influence. Mimicry or symbiont relationship with parasite?
• remove that woman from the team**

[lilac island]

We have:
Big parasite (corpses)
Small parasite (Bold artifacts)
Smaller parasites (insects inside skulls)

[eternal talon]

**### Entry: Gallus Capreolatus
Name options:

• Capreolatus
• Cirrhus
• Pampinarii
• Clavicula
  Discuss tendril hypotheses :
• diphyllobothrium latum mimicry?
• siphonophore/zooids theory
• NEED DNA SAMPLE**

**### Gallus Horridus

• advanced predation techniques
• purpose of keratinous growths unclear. does it charge under threat?
• NEED DNA SAM**

(file ends)

[final sentinel]

so theoretically Horridus is chargers

Idk if I’d call chargers techniques “advanced” tbh

More of a “fuck it we ball” technique

[lilac island]

i can not understand any of these stupid logs

it makes me so angry

[final sentinel]

Gallus is strikers

[lilac island]

they're half written and filled with whatever

[final sentinel]

You can tell because they mention the skin pigmentation

[lilac island]

also that's not parasites that's sleepers

[eternal talon]

they are all gallus. that is the genus name

[final sentinel]

Ah ok

[eternal talon]

named after gallus hammerstein

he tries to take credit for everything, above stokes and dauda even.
tried naming the parasite "Parasitidae Hammerstein" but was revoked and we got parasitidae garganta instead

[lilac island]

what does remove that woman from the team mean

was he taking audio notes on his cellphone

[eternal talon]

huh, i guess that is a way to look at that.

[lilac island]

did he have a schizophrenic episode

Who would want to be named after a world ending alien parasite bro

was he writting a fanfiction

[eternal talon]

rebecca stokes

[lilac island]

what is it with logs

[eternal talon]

he didn't like her making more progress than he was.

[lilac island]

ok why is it here

[final sentinel]

I personally think that Pablo is either a combination of a shitton of parasite species, or a, and I’m not using this word lightly, literal zombified tank from another dimension/timeline

[eternal talon]

she was sending teams to destination while he was exploring the ship

[final sentinel]

That’s what I’ve been trying to crack at

[eternal talon]

she was making more scientific progress than he was and it would seem he was NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT

with slight misogynistic undertones

[lilac island]

unhappy enough to write it in the wrong log and leave it there

take better notes you dum researcher you probably have a PhD

it's 2050

make ai do it for you

dumas

[final sentinel]

yeah I still want an explanation on shadow parasites

Tbh

And pablo

[lilac island]

how does anyone know they're different parasites

[final sentinel]

Honestly at this point I do think he’s a necrotic tank

[eternal talon]

its tradition in the scientific community to have new discoveries named after yourself as a way to cement your legacy in that field of science

especially common in regards to discovering new species

[lilac island]

issac newton was the best person ever and i wish i could have met him

since we mentioned uh

scientists

[loud urchin]

Sometimes stuff gets named after celebrities too

[eternal talon]

^newtonian physics

there are tons of examples

[final sentinel]

Honestly Frosty I’d love your take on Pablo at some point

[loud urchin]

Thinking of you, Tony Iommi

[lilac island]

whos pablo

the immortal?

[final sentinel]

Pablo, the immortal, tank_boss, etc

[lilac island]

of course you named him pablo

[final sentinel]

It was not me

[lilac island]

who else would take that name

i mean the community

[eternal talon]

i have no idea to be honest. best guesses are:

1. charger tank
2. old/mutated parasite

[lilac island]

who cares about pablo

[final sentinel]

I mean I think tanks are already a charger crossbreed tbh

[lilac island]

why's it important

[final sentinel]

Me

[lilac island]

its a tank that had more time to grow and more resources

there

[final sentinel]

Because I’m writing Occlusion lore and I need a 2nd opinion

Lmao

I’m probably going with the superparasite idea

[lilac island]

pablo is just a tank without the tumours

[eternal talon]

the devs said themselves they wouldn't incude zombies in gtfo.

[final sentinel]

Because zombie tank doesn’t make as much sense

[eternal talon]

which leads to the "you are still alive being puppeted" conclusions

[final sentinel]

The devs also said they’d never go back to old rundowns but oh well

[lilac island]

they'd never include zombies

my brother in christ have you seen this videogame

[final sentinel]

I know that, lmao

[eternal talon]

i mean fair but they had announced that prior to it being a thing

[final sentinel]

Yeah, I don’t super think he’s a zombie either

Just an edge theory

Super parasite is not only more sensical but also is way more interesting and cool sounding

[lilac island]

Why is the very simple and easy to believe explaination of "Pablo is a tank that had more time to grow and get rid of tumours" so bad that we need another one

are there any logs about it or something

[final sentinel]

not that I know of

[lilac island]

so what's the fuss

pablo is tank 2

the end

[final sentinel]

Unless the theory my friend has about Dauda creating it is right

[eternal talon]

that was the idea i went with for Subject in PT. A host implanted with a unique/modified parasite

[lilac island]

if you believe that the tank is just a more mutated charger

[final sentinel]

what is subject?

[lilac island]

then pablo is just another step

[final sentinel]

Sorry I never got around to finishing PT

[eternal talon]

in PT, Yokai-2, PT:PR, and Oblivion levels. basically an immortal super-charger with wacky proportions

[final sentinel]

Ahhhh ok

Makes sense tbh

If we’ve learned anything from Jurassic Park, it’s all gone down the shitter

[eternal talon]

insanely large and muscular arms/atrophied extremities and other limbs

[gilded vine]

This isn't GTFO-Lore related? >:C

[crisp citrus]

Pablo is immortal because of the matter wave projector for sure for sure

Vibrated to just the right plane of existence where it can't be harmed

[eternal talon]

you could say... he's immortal because he's just constantly vibin'

[crisp citrus]

So real

I mean that's how I explain the shadows

Matter wave projector wackiness

Slightly different plane of existence making light work weird with them

Immortal is the same, just slightly weird plane of existence

[raw terrace]

its so based

[harsh pike]

i feel like that's a less likely explanation than just "his armor/skin evolved to be stronger than any bullets we have"

also isn't the immortal man-made?

[eternal talon]

we dont know for sure, same with the mother, tank. The snatcher is more likely to be man-made due to the shattered containment unit in r7c1, but even that could honestly have just been to preserve/study a particular specimen that insight had recovered.

[harsh pike]

ah yeah, i heard someone say it was but it may have just been bs

I hope it's not to be honest

[eternal talon]

Insight also stored your average sleeper specimens in containment tanks, including some weird biomass stuff

for comparison's sake, here is a picture of the larger tank in c1.

[clear furnace]

Imagine what the tank or pmom were stored sine. (Since those are also man made which is still crazy to me.)

[coral gorge]

are tanks man made?

i always thought they were a natural occurence

due to pablo coming out of the wall in R7E1

[queen gazelle]

Wasn’t the thing in the tank the pouncer

Like if it isn’t that would be kind shotty story telling

[coral gorge]

yeah i always assumed in R7C1 the tank was for a snatcher

it would make sense after all

[cunning light]

Evidence seems to indicate that the OG worldline events have had repercussions on other worldlines, namely the Alt:// one that we know of.
As if "our" reality had begun infecting the others, possibly due to the repeated use of the Matter Wave Projector.

[lost drum]

Have you played the closed beta of Rundown 8?

[cunning light]

Yes, but my statements on this server are based solely on my experience with the previous Rundowns. I will not mention anything that has not been publicly disclosed.

[lost drum]

Good)

[raw terrace]

do we get
a panini

say this important info >:c

we get a panini in r8 dont we

[royal crow]

we get antoher glowie color?

thats the important thing

[cunning light]

In any case, I find it very unlikely that the Tank could have been created by humans, even if there are traces of experimentations on the Creatures (hi Dauda)

[raw terrace]

maybs we get PANINI GLOWIES

i knew it

[final sentinel]

superparasite :3

[lost drum]

I believe that Immortal is under the control of Warden. Here's why:

1. It only appears when we hack into the Mainframe
2. He teleports after us in Alpha.
3. When we take the last code in R7E1, he appears from the WARDEN door where the teleport room is.

It seems to me to be a kind of weapon in the hands of Warden. He sent it to stop us. About the tanks, in the training level (it's closer to the surface), behind the closed door, a huge number of tanks start to spawn, as if they were in Warden's "Stockpile".

[royal crow]

oh damn

[final sentinel]

the reason he teleports after us is because we intended for that to happen iirc

That’s the entire reason

To get Pablo off your ass

We teleport him

Him coming from the MWP door is the result of us NEVER severing our quantum tethers iirc

Idk Frosty probably knows

[coral gorge]

yeah

plus its possible there are 3 pablos

alternatively i would assume its quantum tether shenanigans

[eternal talon]

1. isn't true, he just happens to be locked in the same room as the key required to progress forward at the start.
2. we don't know this for sure, evidence points to multiple pablos.
3. maybe but also ^

it literally says on hud calling the player a cheater. that is NOT canon in any way whatsoever. it is completely innacessible vanilla

(he is in a dead-end tunnel. the key to progress is in the room i'm standing in. It's a two-subzone zone)

[lost drum]

I mean, we hacked Biocom in R7D2, and Immortal shows up in R7E1. Also, that doesn't explain why the Warden door opened on its own. I think Warden did it on purpose to set it on us

[eternal talon]

its just in a random box, no terminals or anything

[final sentinel]

i mean there are plenty of times not opening a door would’ve been preferable

I don’t think the warden’s opening that tbh

Pretty sure warden is kind of braindead at the time of E1

[eternal talon]

i'd really like to see an "OH FUCK" moment in r8 where sleepers bash down a fucking blood door like a normal sec door

[final sentinel]

YES

that’d be HILARIOUS

Imagine having it happen when you read the door alarm

[lost drum]

This would have to be done for the new boss

[eternal talon]

you start a wave defense terminal/reactor or something, and over the course of a couple waves more and more doors get bashed open to create new entry points you have to defend

[burnt wren]

Does the game even have an animation set for that

[eternal talon]

no

[final sentinel]

No lol

[eternal talon]

which is why it'd be an "oh shit" moment. modders cant even do that

[final sentinel]

I meaaaan

I assume it could be ddone

Nobody wants to tho

[eternal talon]

*nobody has spent the time and bothered to make a destroyed model and animations in unity

[final sentinel]

Yeah lmao

If 3rd person deathcam is moddable, anything is

[lost drum]

I hope there will be "Super Doors" that can be closed/opened (when alarmed), and that would cut off part of the level

[eternal talon]

that'd require a fair bit of work sad to say... doors are only made for one side

the other side is a blank slab not meant to be viewed

[final sentinel]

You could probably fix that

[eternal talon]

you'd have to find a way to copy paste and double up the handlebar thing and work out ai, because thats how the level knows what to keep loaded

what zone and room doors are open

[final sentinel]

Yeaaaaaah also sleeper ai perishes with shut doors

[eternal talon]

its why you can put a turret in a zone, quickly leave and shut the door, and it'll kill everything while they are still sleeping despite the noise

[lost drum]

At Floodways, I've seen huge flaps. I think there were huge doors. Maybe they'll make them?

If this mechanism can close this door

What door is in here?

[rustic cedar]

Maybe it doesn’t have to be a door, just a hole in the wall

[final sentinel]

Honestly it looks like a room divider to me

[raw terrace]

or just a big flap for when needed :3

thats against the wall

[burnt wren]

Floodways was always my favorite biome

I too spotted all these giant mega doors everywhere

There's a couple of things they could be blocking - first of all just stopping water flow, if needed, redirecting it there and there...
But also you ass a couple of vehicle all over the place, and it seems that these doors protect the roadways for them.

[lost drum]

For me, the Gardens are better. Few people noticed, but the emphasis was on seeing enemies worse in the foliage. But when they run, the foliage moves and it adds to the dynamics of the scene

Really looking forward to the Garden levels in R8

Hopefully there will be at least two

[cunning light]

Floodways are just the most beautiful

Gardens are more lush, but they tend to be oversaturated with plants and objects

(and are arguably more memory hungry)

[final sentinel]

I like that in a level tbh

Reminds me of backpacking in Shenandoah

[plush nest]

mines and facility/storage are my least favorite

[eternal talon]

I like refinery and its many bridges.

[lost drum]

can someone create a tier list for favorite locations?

[coral gorge]

Cant wait for gardens to be in ”absolute utter fucking garbage, why does this exist” tier

[burnt wren]

I really like gardens aesthetically, but its a shame they are next to unplayable

actually i should test my 3060ti on R7B1... See if anything changed.

[coral gorge]

For me gardens dont feel any diffrent than the rest of the game

but thats prolly cause i have stable 20 fps all the time

[burnt wren]

Heh

[plush nest]

It’s fairly stable for me with a 3060 I think I get 90 to 100 usually

[lost drum]

I'm anticipating what a nightmare will start in this channel when the R8 comes out

[cunning light]

[solar nova]

R7D1 is like 70 FPS for me. Gardens just combines very poorly with anything else that would cause FPS drops. Checkpoints, a large map, lots of enemies, Snatchers, performance-heavy tiles, etc.

R7D1 also has a crazy long drop.

[plush nest]

R7d1 is like 60 but I played it once to complete it and then never played it again

[crisp citrus]

maybe thats how they get the cars/huge crates and stuff around

that could open to some kinda industrial elevator

[plush nest]

i was thinking maybe ramps to not damage things but someone said that first

[tame goblet]

I LOVE GARDENS MEMORY LEAK

[lost drum]

Huge amazing spaces with dropping fps or boring well optimized small spaces?

😂

[burnt wren]

Floodways giving side eye from the corner

[final sentinel]

I mean Mining and Tech have plenty of amazing spaces that don’t attack my FPS directly

[lost drum]

I think it's a long level

[eternal talon]

could be just afk.

no way they'd make a 4 hour long level. they'd've lost their damn minds if they think anyone will sit through that

[lost drum]

Well, he's in solo)

And it's probably just checking for functionality, not passing through

[eternal talon]

what does the "1 of 3" mean?

[lost drum]

He blocked 1 slot and didn't take the bot

I think so

They certainly won't be doing trials for three

Or, in the story, one dies. Forever. Haha

Somebody's gonna have to close the door from the outside

[lilac island]

This is one of three secret levels

[final sentinel]

1 of 3 players

Auri’s Rich Presence mod does the same thing

[mortal pivot]

I like to think that the mod you named forces a billionaire to see your GTFO gameplay for a minute

[final sentinel]

Nah that’s Horror Plus

[royal crow]

can you tell me how do use it pwease?

[final sentinel]

1 sec

[frail pollen]

o.0

[grave quest]

the redacted levels are r8 ones?

[loud urchin]

Dev build/playtest before r8 releases

[grave quest]

wait is the engineer of ten chambers a dog?

[raw terrace]

oh god

[lost drum]

dog

[frail pollen]

woof woof

[rustic cedar]

This explains the amount of fetch missions

[grave quest]

actually it makes sense

[rustic cedar]

Reminds me of that one thing in silent hill where its actually all run by the dog

New GTFO Easteregg

[final sentinel]

any idea what the numbers mean?

[queen gazelle]

Mod abuse you have the ability to post images

[final sentinel]

we all do here dingus

[queen gazelle]

Wait this chat can be spammed

[loud urchin]

But for how long

[final sentinel]

do not

[queen gazelle]

Oh I need NLO right now

[loud urchin]

NLO?

[coral gorge]

not literall orcs

[burnt wren]

Not Lore Oriented

[grave quest]

question

whats the difference between a , b c , d , e expeditions?

[raw terrace]

the difficulty and the deep-ness

the lower they r the harder and more, lower, they are

[grave quest]

is it possible to do all level with bots?

or even solo?

[coral gorge]

With cheeese yes

without no

[raw terrace]

nope
with bots n solo u can get a bit amount of levels, but the very hard ones just requre yeah cheese

and if ur on that point

might as well, o it solo since bots will drag u

[coral gorge]

also this is the lore channel

[grave quest]

what is cheeeese

[grave quest]

sorry

[coral gorge]

Abusing game mechanics or glitches and etc

[grave quest]

cubix

what character is at your profile picture?

[raw terrace]

the silksong

[eternal talon]

general difficulty and chronological order.

[eternal talon]

this too

higher tier missions are lower in the complex

[eternal talon]

honestly no. there are some levels that require you to backtrack during reactors, so door cheese can't even save you there

[raw terrace]

:>

[eternal talon]

you'd have to find a way to either totally brick their ai or obtain god mode

[solar nova]

Every level is cheeseable.

I'm not sure what reactor you wouldn't be able to do.

[eternal talon]

like for one example, r7e1's reactor. you have to run back and forth through mother/scout rooms to get codes.

even if you bug the doors so they can't follow you, you still have to run through them multiple times

(not that you'd even really have much time to bug them in the first place)

[solar nova]

That's not very difficult solo.

[eternal talon]

i'd like to see a VOD of it then, because i cannot see how it's possible

[solar nova]

Sure.

Also, doesn't T-nenpi already have one?

[eternal talon]

i don't know who that is.

[solar nova]

They use big flyer stuck over door bug, but door bug is about as easy.

[eternal talon]

what, to max the spawn count?

[solar nova]

Yeah.

[eternal talon]

also don't some alarms ignore that? and even so, what about the rooms with already sleeping enemies like the pmon zone

[solar nova]

You don't wake them up, lmfao

[eternal talon]

how'd they kill their way through that

[eternal talon]

isnt there like four scouts???

between that room and the adjacent

[solar nova]

So?

I can record my gameplay of, it's not a crazy section.

[eternal talon]

if you fail the reactor wave from time does the code not change?

[solar nova]

No, it

's never worked that way

Also, one person can do that section in time anyway

[final sentinel]

@eternal talon does this mean anything

[eternal talon]

it does look vaguely familiar... but i'm not sure what from.

where did you find it?

[loud urchin]

what ray said, there's plenty of time and no shortage of doors to bug/ways to enemy cap

[final sentinel]

The dev leak bug hunting version

Seems odd to put a bug hunter version in the video

[solar nova]

The version stands out to me less than that it doesn't look like a real version number.

[burnt wren]

Could be just a cool number

[eternal talon]

Objective stack updated 2063.04.14.03.24.37
only thing i'm seeing in logs is it is similar to an objective stack version identifier, but even so not quite.

i'll have to run through other things.

[eternal talon]

what the fuck...

i think i found something

but its not from the numbers

i think this fucker has been hiding morse code this whole goddamn time

its still too blury to read though. i've done a simple noise reduction to get this far

[loud urchin]

which fucker

[eternal talon]

this fucker

the higher pitch segments that are mostly drowned out by ambience

[final sentinel]

LMAO that’s great

Imagine it’s like a snatcher reveal

[eternal talon]

this came out post r7. it was like alt//r2

[final sentinel]

Interested to see where this goes

[eternal talon]

still highly doubt i'm going to figure this out though. its been unsolved since it came out and i haven't got the slightest inclination on how to clean this audio up without also removing whats hidden

[loud urchin]

I have no idea about audio analysis

but what happens if you make it noisier

[solar nova]

It does look oddly uniform.

The full spectrogram does, too.

[eternal talon]

so what... increase pitch?

[solar nova]

There is a ton of extra information that is clearly not a part of the actual audio.

[eternal talon]

i genuinely dont know what im doing

woah woah woah

what the fuck

[loud urchin]

idk, was thinking that maybe if you amplify everything it might be easier to parse

or maybe not

[eternal talon]

i havent the faintest idea how to do that

right now i'm just fiddling with it in audacity

[storm flame]

you could try jupyter notebook and matplotlib

[storm flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr4yh1_4GlQ&ab_channel=MarkJay neither do i know about audio, but in the end is data, you could be good with some data science course available online or stuff, its always very helpful to have a clear goal in mind, like analysing the cryptic shite gtfo has, ive been dying to do it myself but i lack the time right now uwU

[solar nova]

@eternal talon Will have vod in a sec

[burnt wren]

Still sounds like a whale crying to me

[cunning light]

To any of you trying to solve this last "riddle-log", thank you :)

[burnt wren]

That makes it sound like you know something

get him

[royal crow]

you know something

we know you know

https://tenor.com/view/the-russian-badger-fire-a-warning-shot-m32grenade-launcher-m32rotary-grenade-launcher-gif-22095991

[cunning light]

I am as curious as you are on that one :('

[royal crow]

too late
you are very sus

[royal crow]

idk why
but that sounds like a scream

from a monster

a big big monster

[harsh pike]

badger gifs...very good

[finite vine]

what would matplotlib do to help with decoding audio files? from my experience its only used for math stuff

[storm flame]

plot the audio while you analyze it with other functions i dunno, its a silly example. but its good to get into it.

[solar nova]

@eternal talon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i821DkEd8NY

[finite vine]

yea that could work. for someone that doesn't know python thou it would probably take a good amount of time lol

[loud urchin]

that doorbug set up is very clean, although the title did make me think you'd just shit there with a bottomless choke mod until pablo died

[solar nova]

Thanks, it took me 3-ish attempts of missing and thinking I did it too early followed by 8+ attempts of me hitting it too late and not understanding what I was doing wrong.

[storm flame]

jupyter notebook and examples do most of the work. Also plotly is way better and it has copy pasteable examples

[coarse canyon]

Which one is left to solve?

[cunning light]

The audio one pinned

[final sentinel]

The R1B2 whale log

[cunning light]

#gtfo-lore message

[lilac island]

400 man hours worth of effort trying to crack this log just for a recording of Scheaffer scratching his balls with no usable information

[eternal talon]

#dev-leaks message
common sleeper with floater tendrils -- looks to be unchanged from, eh, um, what i've seen before.

so they've had that finished since alt//r6, so i wonder what they've been developing in the meantime

[crisp citrus]

Watch it just be a sleeper that lets off a flier if you don't kill with a headshot

[eternal talon]

because that hints some of the other stuff i cannot say here was probably also in a near-finished state

[eternal talon]

its too small, wouldn't have the space for it. i can share stuff with you in DMs if you want to talk about the specifics of it further

[crisp citrus]

Ok

Send

[eternal talon]

i'm just saying this probably going to be a rundown that adds quite a bit compared to past ones

[polar pulsar]

Looks like a scout?

[eternal talon]

since what they are showing now is stuff they have had done for a while

[teal narwhal]

It sorta looks like a scout that has not fully formed

Was just adding to what you said

[eternal talon]

eh... kinda.

but anyways, i must bid this conversation adieu

[teal narwhal]

Okie :p

[plush nest]

My first thought was snatcher sleeper but that doesn’t seem right to me

[burnt wren]

Maybe they just block your vision instead of straight up abducting you? But that would be weird

Also wtf are those fat tentacles anyway! Those are not scout tentacles!

Sleepers generally do not have a tentacle theme to them, at all.

Strikers, shooters, chargers, even parents have nothing tentacly about them, only scouts with their thin, thiiin feelers.

[coral gorge]

yeahhhh

[burnt wren]

But now we have an emergence of this "fat tentacle" aesthetic... It started with fliers, and then snatcher...
Something's up with that.

[coral gorge]

they be thick

hm

kraken 2.0?

lol

im wondering what it will do

[burnt wren]

Could it be a different strain of parasite infiltrating from other membranes?

[coral gorge]

like will it be like a regular enemy or perhaps a scout ish creature

[coral gorge]

hmmm yeah could be interesting

this would explain snatchers apearance in ALT R5

that wardens funny business yeeted some kind of virus into the ALT worldline

also im curious what it would imply for R7. I guess just the fact that after R6 MWP business it threw some of the diff virus in there

[teal narwhal]

It could be a sensory thing, making it more sensitive to its surroundings. Sort of how insects use their antennae for looking around. From the leak video alone it seems to not have a head for seeing so maybe it found a new way to feel around

[coral gorge]

hmm yeah would make sense

ngl i wanna hope for a new mechanic

but im guessing it might just have super hearing

[teal narwhal]

Until we see it in action we cant be sure

[coral gorge]

so maybe like a stationary scout that can hear you from far away

[burnt wren]

You literally just reinvented a scout.

So either it is one, or...

[coral gorge]

oh wait what if its just a giant scout

i wanna doubt that

but i guess its an option

[burnt wren]

Didn't look giant.

[teal narwhal]

It looks to be smaller than a scout

Could be a larval stage for a scout, aka the early stages of making one

[coral gorge]

perhaps

i think i like my theory that its a stationary super hearing scout

also i wonder if this enemy has anything to do with the last leak

[keen mantle]

If it’s a super sensitive scout…. I’m in for a bad time

[coral gorge]

lol

[keen mantle]

Cuz if this is one of the longer reach hearing… visuals MAY not help

Just like Shadows. I rely on visuals for everything

I’m also puzzled by the particles where that thing is in

No other rundown or levels has active running particles like that

[burnt wren]

Yep

Spores?... Bee swarm birther?...

[keen mantle]

Who knows

Stationary Scout with super hearing is terrifying as hell

I hate the implications of that

[keen mantle]

Maybe it has to do with the virus/parasite itself. We seen this when This first showed up in OG R6BX (now AX). Then the Snatcher in OG R7C1. And then the Alts came with some oddities here and there

[keen mantle]

Ok so from what I’ve gathered from this leak and the last one is that they’re most likely talking about this one

I went to trying to hear this electronically this time

[burnt wren]

You're talking of voice leak?

[keen mantle]

And there was a really fast moment of pulsing and then gunfire

[keen mantle]

The voice leak and this leak yes

[burnt wren]

Yeah, they mentioned tentacles and then "of course it screamed"

If this is indeed a passive scout - I propose we call it a "sentry"

[keen mantle]

Yea. So there’s gotta be some elements of super-sensitivity here.

But it still doesn’t explain the particles sadly

What I don’t know is. Idk what those loud sudden noise was

I hear the scans but after one of them finishes, that loud sound came and from the reactions, no one was expecting it

[burnt wren]

Ooooh...

Nvm, that doesn't make sense...

[keen mantle]

Yea. Idk what prompted that

Probably a door to introduce this thing, most likely?

[burnt wren]

I mean if it's anything like R7C1 introduction...

[raw terrace]

no cause someones gonna say 'sentry here' and we all fucked

[keen mantle]

One thing for certain: I’ll definitely be telling Calle about my thoughts

[raw terrace]

what kind of name its that

[burnt wren]

It's a sentry. It doesn't scout - it just stands and waits. Like a sentry.

[coral gorge]

maybe... a monolith?

or a guardian?

[burnt wren]

Guardian's too epic for that thing

We can call it sentry-scout or scout-sentry for differentiation purposes.

Sentinel!

Perfect.

[coral gorge]

oh yeah

sentinel

[polar pulsar]

What if the #dev-leaks tentacle enemy is a sleeper that extends tentacles when it's in its red state?

[burnt wren]

R1B2-2, Tentacle Boogaloo

[coral gorge]

not sure how that would work

maybe like a snatcher?

thay grabs people in a couple meter radius around it when its alerted

[coral gorge]

lmao

japan after getting nuked: there be tentacles hiding in the ceiling again

[polar pulsar]

I dont think that'd enhance stealth too much. The enemy looks unalerted in the leak.

Having stationary mini-scouts would pose an extra challenge.

[coral gorge]

yeah

im leaning more towards sentinel

[polar pulsar]

like, they're not alerted by visuals or sound, but if you touch em its a nope.

It'd be a nice contrast to the other sleepers in my opinion.

[keen mantle]

I think they’re alerted by sounds considering the voice leak

But the difference is that whatever that thing is. It went from sleeping to pulsing REALLY quick

[eternal talon]

a lot of these theories seem to be relying on only the shooters having these versions, but we dont know that for sure.

[coral gorge]

frosty dont destroy the fun with your black magic knowledge

[eternal talon]

also i cant tell if its just the angle, but is this one missing its arms?

[eternal talon]

i'm not saying anything.

[coral gorge]

yeah seems like it

[eternal talon]

also i thought it was a shooter at first glance, but upon looking at it again, it looks a bit more like a chicken

i cant tell which it is at this point

[coral gorge]

id say its a shooter

like the size doenst fit a chicken

[eternal talon]

i mean yeah, but im talking the model

[coral gorge]

a downscaled chicken?

hm

curious

[eternal talon]

let me see if i can find a pic of the models on the wiki for cross comparison...

alright...

damn they angled this really fucking well

[coral gorge]

i dont see a chicken in it

[eternal talon]

i legitimately cant tell

but yeah the fact it doesnt have any arms is throwing me for a loop. we've never seen that before -- in ANY of the variants

from strikers, to shooters, to tanks, hell even the moms

[coral gorge]

yeahhhh

maybe like a scout that survived being hit?

and kinda rapidly adapted?

[eternal talon]

there is also that thing hanging from the right side of it

it looks like its on a tumor

god knows what that is

it isnt moving like the other tendrils

[eternal talon]

well if it originated from a scout, that still doesn't explain the size. scouts are normally chicken sized

[coral gorge]

hm i guess so

it looks kinda like

a shooter that somehow survived its head being destroyed

and had whatever the tentacles are just sprout out

[eternal talon]

do you have a picture by chance of an open door's button?

im looking at that door in the back mostly cropped out

[polar pulsar]

Looks to me like it has its arms crossed. like the mummies. If it has arms.

[eternal talon]

i just dont see any shoulders.

[polar pulsar]

Smaller arm mutation + held over chest = small enough profile to hide it?

[eternal talon]

its certainly very different... to even what i'd expected

given the light flickering, i wonder what else we can get out of this video

[coral gorge]

i think it lacks arms

[eternal talon]

like a zone number

like i think i see a c-foam grenade on the floor in the back, but im not sure

[coral gorge]

to me it really looks like a shooter that went through some shit

[coral gorge]

yeah

[coarse canyon]

But it looks like the striker form, where as the scouts to me always seemed to be female and likely evolved shooter form

[coral gorge]

the zone number is really awkard tho

[coral gorge]

its very much a shooter in my opinion

or atleast a shooter esque body

[eternal talon]

to be fair shadow scouts are also strikers in model

if you look at them with thermals

[coral gorge]

wait really?

[eternal talon]

yep

[coral gorge]

arent all shadows shooter bodies?

[coarse canyon]

I always wrote that off as "lazy coding"

[coral gorge]

with striker heads?

[eternal talon]

half way to giant sized with a big ol' head

like baby head proportions

[coral gorge]

huh

interesting

[eternal talon]

i mean yeah, but we got thermal sighted weapons now and they didn't bother to change it even though its easily visible now

[coral gorge]

well this sure is an interesting leak, i wonder how many more theories will arise till morning

cause rn we have... a super sensitive hearing stationary scout

[eternal talon]

honestly, i wanna know why they are posting devleaks again. r8's gotta be right around the corner

we hadn't gotten leaks in quite some time previously

[coral gorge]

and a sleeper that releases tendrils (grabs players?) when alerted

[coral gorge]

yeah

i dont remember the last time i saw a leak

there hasnt been one since R7 right?

[eternal talon]

i think they had one or two during the alts

you can compare the dates in the channel with those on the wiki

[coral gorge]

last one is from 24.04.

so thats ALT R4 i think

or right before its release

[eternal talon]

also, that stuff in the air, yeah?

i've seen it before.

the caves on destination

[coral gorge]

there seem to have been 2 for ALTs - one for ALT R2 and one for ALT R4

[coral gorge]

huh

thats interesting

[eternal talon]

(pic obv so no animation)

[coral gorge]

virus particles?

i doubt its dust

but also thats way too big for virus particles

some quantum powder dust thingy maybe?

[eternal talon]

parasites?

flying mites?

[coral gorge]

who the fuck knows

[eternal talon]

it doesnt look like there is any text hidden in the static

[coarse canyon]

Build hype? I was surprised they didn't try and get 8 out in time for black friday

[eternal talon]

i think they might have just not textured it... and thats why its black

[loud urchin]

Why rush for Black Friday, not really a holiday over in Europe iirc

Although Britain sure does love being americanised bit by bit

It'll come out for December probably

Either for Christmas or New year's I guess

[wicked oak]

a black friday rush doesn't make sense in general unless it's a physical release

[coarse canyon]

Probably didn't texture it so you couldn't manipulate the image and see it better

[raw terrace]

thats a thing some games do so plausible

[keen mantle]

I’m still leaning towards Stationary Scouts.

Cuz the voice leaks and current leak has some evidence supporting each other

[coarse canyon]

Perspective is tough, but I agree. Seems Too big for shooter

[coarse canyon]

Just cause your not an American company doesn't mean you wouldnt consider timing things for big sales dates

But Winter solstice timing also makes sense considering when people have time to play.

[coral gorge]

Especially cause GTFOs anniversary is in december

[gilded vine]

😎

[royal crow]

LORE?

I SMELL NEW LORE?

https://tenor.com/view/cow-dancing-wtf-gif-5103663

[stoic thicket]

Is it possible that if they introduce a NAM-V virus from an Alt-Dimension to the current lore dimension, they will be hostile against each other? Possibly changing the behaviour of the host parasites and in turn the host organism to fight each other? Maybe?

[eternal talon]

That's... something far beyond anything anyone here can predict

[burnt wren]

I mean yeah - that's possible.

[eternal talon]

but if we try, the destination infected don't fight the earth infected, despite the 7.5 trillion year time gap between the two

[burnt wren]

Although i'm uncertain of logistics of viruses preying upon each other

[solar nova]

New theory

the virus is highly evolved because it has been jumping across membranes for literal trillions of trillions of years.

[spice hinge]

That's deadass the lore to The Thing.

Which is rather insidious to think about.

[keen mantle]

Hey, I was looking at the creature and I noticed that the sides appear to be pulsing or something so there’s something about

[lost drum]

Dream R8: A new location on the space station.

lol

[grave quest]

Do we know more about R8?

[raw terrace]

well there's a funky enemy as shown in #dev-leaks

:3

[grave quest]

Any date ?

[raw terrace]

nope

still same info

[grave quest]

Slendi I know you speak Spanish but from m which country are you ?

[raw terrace]

tacos :]

[grave quest]

I am from Toros and tortilla

Actually is there any way to escape from the complex ?

Like an emergency exit

[raw terrace]

in guessin it's probs there but also hard to get to and maybe cut off by one of the holes in the ground

currently the best way to just go out it's by the same way we go in i think

[past matrix]

2 weeks

if i had to guess

since anniversary is coming up on what, the 9th?

[crisp citrus]

does he know

[severe prairie]

know what

[crisp citrus]

wouldnt you like to know...

[raw terrace]

yes

[severe prairie]

.-.

[crisp citrus]

(i also want to know)

[royal crow]

i want to know

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[harsh pike]

I hope that enemy is one of multiple new ones

it'd be nice to have new fodder enemies, and not just "here's 1 new special enemy only for rundown 8"

[coral gorge]

yeah

a full new type

[coarse canyon]

I am running the audio file through Sonic visualizer

i thknk we got a message

I am trying to clean it up, but I am either seeing text

or I am seeing text

[keen mantle]

Layout of where this “text” is?

[coarse canyon]

That specific density in the Melodic Range Spectrogram runs the course, their is also the rather repititious "columns" at the sub 20hz

So some information was transcribed into the data file sub hearing level. Which to me could be related to the text (like a cipher of sorts)

[keen mantle]

What if that sub 20 hz is what the enemy is detecting?

[coarse canyon]

could be

[keen mantle]

That COULD explain how quickly whatever is in the voice log to react to our characters

[coarse canyon]

The raw file sounds similar to the noises heard in R6C1 after you pick up the final data cube and get that glancing view of the "nemesis" boss

[keen mantle]

Cuz I didn’t even hear ANY listening state. Just straight to pulse

[coarse canyon]

which are you referring to?

[keen mantle]

The voice log

Normally, when stealthing

The enemy would start to make its listening noise and then pulse

But in the voice dev leak (I meant dev leak). There was an absence of one of the states.

I was listening to the voice log electronically

[keen mantle]

It’s the dev leak that’s before our current dev leak

[coarse canyon]

Oh i see

yes, could be.

But the log says its a transmission

to me that says message

like an "unauthorized signal"

[keen mantle]

Yea. There’s multiple messages BUT we can also glean some other info from it too

[coarse canyon]

fair

[keen mantle]

And that absence of listening state or instant pulse is really sharp

What I’m concerned about is… the evidence that possibly supports this new enemy being far more hearing-sensitive

There are some voices that possibly describes the current dev

If it’s far more hearing-sensitive, that would mean that stealth MAY not be enough or certain tactics will not work

[keen mantle]

How far along are you on this cleanup?

[coarse canyon]

Trying to figure out how to best adjust the audio

going to bed for now

[burnt wren]

inb4 it just says "GTFO"

[coarse canyon]

I half expect it to say "Nothing to see here"

[coarse canyon]

Sub 20hz is typically more of something "felt" than heard. So to me. My current theories is, the spectrogram is just a mess and there's just enough noise that of you zoom in an dour just right it sort of organized into letters at that hz

With the sub 20hz telling us how to transcribe

OR

It's not an Allen (what's their real name again?) transmission, it's "nemesis class" beast who is transmitting orders. That transmission is so loud it rumbles.

[coral gorge]

real name of aliens is "collectors"

[coarse canyon]

Thabk you

[clear furnace]

An interesting excerpt from an instagram ad

[eternal talon]

Is that an official ad?

Or is it something a company like IGN posted to spread info about the sale

[raw terrace]

i dont see it in the instagram page

[eternal talon]

Because if that is official... that'd be annoying to say the least.

[raw terrace]

doesnt seem so

[crisp citrus]

if r8 makes us time travel ill cry

parrallel worlds is enough

alternate timelines is almost too much

throw in time travel? i wouldnt even know what was going on anymore

[lost drum]

sounds cool to me

Yes, the narrative in R7 was much simpler and clearer. The ALT story changed the overall narrative a bit. But whatever happens

[solar nova]

What does the full thing look like

Or is this it?

At a glance that looks like short short short long pause short short...

[coarse canyon]

I couldn't make the sub 20hz look like morse

Thats all 2 mins

[clear furnace]

That was basically the entire thing. The picture was pretty standard as well,

[eternal talon]

thats what i was thinking with morse code

[clear furnace]

But yeah figured I would drop it here cause the implication of time travel is interesting. Whether that’s done through the matter wave or something else I’m not sure.

[eternal talon]

its got a lot of very similar parts that repeat

[solar nova]

6 7 8 15 1 6 7?

[eternal talon]

that looks... oddly familiar

Original text:

MzcgMzcgMjAgMzggMzQgMjAgMzkgMzkgMjAgMzEgMzAgMzMgMjAgMzcgMzcgMjAgMzggMzQgMjAgMzcgMzcgMjAgMzEgMzAgMzMgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzYgMzggMjAgMzggMzEgMjAgMzEgMzEgMzcgMjAgMzcgMzcgMjAgMzEgMzAgMzYgMjAgMzYgMzkgMjAgMzEgMzIgMzAgMjAgMzcgMzMgMjAgMzYgMzcgMjAgMzQgMzggMjAgMzEgMzIgMzIgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzEgMzIgMzEgMjAgMzYgMzUgMjAgMzEgMzEgMzkgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzEgMzAgMzUgMjAgMzYgMzUgMjAgMzEgMzIgMzAgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzggMzMgMjAgMzUgMzIgMjAgMzUgMzMgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzYgMzUgMjA

Base64 Decode output:

37 37 20 38 34 20 39 39 20 31 30 33 20 37 37 20 38 34 20 37 37 20 31 30 33 20 37 38 20 36 38 20 38 31 20 31 31 37 20 37 37 20 31 30 36 20 36 39 20 31 32 30 20 37 33 20 36 37 20 34 38 20 31 32 32 20 37 38 20 31 32 31 20 36 35 20 31 31 39 20 37 38 20 31 30 35 20 36 35 20 31 32 30 20 37 38 20 38 33 20 35 32 20 35 33 20 37 38 20 36 35 20

Decode output with 20 as a divider:

37 37
38 34
39 39
31 30 33
37 37
38 34
37 37
31 30 33
37 38
36 38
38 31
31 31 37
37 37
31 30 36
36 39
31 32 30
37 33
36 37
34 38
31 32 32
37 38
31 32 31
36 35
31 31 39
37 38
31 30 35
36 35
31 32 30
37 38
38 33
35 32
35 33
37 38
36 35

3X converted to just X and combined into decimals:

77 84 99 103 77 84 77 103 78 68 81 117 77 106 69 120 73 67 48 122 78 121 65 119 78 105 65 120 78 83 52 53 78 65

Combined into decimals converted to ASCII:

MTcgMTMgNDQuMjExIC0zNyAwNiAxNS45NA

Base64 Decode output with new ASCII text:

17 13 44.211 -37 06 15.94

what the fuck is up with 10cc and numbers

this shit's too complicated

[coral gorge]

Wtf am i looking at

[royal crow]

lore

[eternal talon]

the previous arg log.

[coral gorge]

ah

[eternal talon]

the one that got us the coordinates to destination

[coral gorge]

why are we looking at it again?

surely they didnt hide 2 things there

[eternal talon]

because the set of numbers looks similar to cipher outputs at the time.

and it was annoying as hell the first time to solve

so taking this long to get this far if this is what the other one was like, its only gonna get worse

[eternal talon]

(so it may be able to be decoded in a similar way)

[burnt wren]

Lore writer is a nerd with a cryptographic degree, it seems, and he enjoys making us suffer

[solar nova]

6 7 8 15 1 6 7
6 7 8 F 1 6 7
108589415

[eternal talon]

mason, what do the numbers mean

[coral gorge]

they all do artek, they all like to watch us suffer

[royal crow]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[solar nova]

I'm not really sure what to do w/ them from here tbh.

[royal crow]

CUBIX THE NUMBERS

WHAT DO THEY MEAN

WHAT DO THEY MEAN, CUBIX

[coral gorge]

ngl i bet the dev team will or has already looked in this chat and just laughed at our pain

[coral gorge]

they mean that the lore writers need to be thrown of the tallest building in sweden

[eternal talon]

build a bigger one

[burnt wren]

What is the biggest sweden building...

Turning Torso
190 m

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Turningtorso2011.jpg

God, i hate buildings like this. Just the shape alone causes my knees to get week.

Who keeps building these and most importantly - who keeps renting them?

[coral gorge]

Also

why tye fuck is it

curved

like

[burnt wren]

Engineers love to show off too

[coral gorge]

who designed that

[burnt wren]

Oh, excuse me... This is the Silver medal winner.

The real winner is
Karlatornet
246m with 74 floors
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Karlatornet_2023-09-20_(cropped).jpg

[coral gorge]

still weird

[burnt wren]

"...will be the tallest building in the Nordic countries"

Sweden lore goes hard too, apparently

[coral gorge]

Lol

ngl

shit building in my opinion

i would not want that to be the tallest building in my country

[burnt wren]

Eh, i've seen worse.

[frail pollen]

can confirm

[cunning light]

D0c is probably like that right now, reading through it all :

[drowsy roost]

We should add that process to the wiki for future ref...

[coarse canyon]

6digits? With decimals for the third. Is this coordinates?

[burnt wren]

I was just thinking that

Does google maps has a coords feature?...

[coarse canyon]

Oh wait. Frosty already did it's cords log.

[coarse canyon]

What are these from?

[solar nova]

Counting the "blobs" in each sequence.

The last is just converting the whole number into decimal to see if it looked interesting.

[coarse canyon]

Got ya

Docred commenting tells me we are both onto something and completely off base with what that thing is

Lolol

At least, that's what I would like to make my own personal Lore chat lore.

[eternal talon]

yeah yeah. that is old news.

[eternal talon]

not earth co-ords, as was found out.

[cunning light]

Maybe they are Destination coordinates

But that does not lead us much further

[burnt wren]

I still claim that writer over-engineered that one.

Provided there is any meaning behind it at all.

Could be just a very spooky sound, for all we know. Because spooky.

[cold mist]

no idea about the lore but got curious, are the mothers actual pregnant women that were in the facilities before the whole thing happened or just naming due to them generating little guys?

[eternal talon]

We don't know. The big variant is named after the "Pmother trial samples". The parasite has a tendency to repurpose the systems of its hosts for its benefit.

Its possible

If you are interested in the lore but are unfamiliar, id recommend reading the "for dummies" document in the pins of this channel

[cold mist]

thanks mate will do

[coarse canyon]

why were all pregnant women just ... "lower" in the facility?

To me it amplified certain genotypes to produce phenotypes like "big strikers" or "big shooters" (Males and females that are more genetically able to "put on mass." This would mean that some anatomies are are more capable of bearing offspring. Still lends the question of why would they more likely be deeper in the complex.

The other rationale is that they were pregnant and they just migrated deeper into the complex for more protection.

[eternal talon]

disregarding, all infected, regardless of origin seem to be in significantly higher quantity the further down you go. Reason being, it's probably not just pregnant women, even if that is what the mothers were. The sleepers almost certainly have a massive nest in the belly of the ship that crashed.

[coarse canyon]

That do be true. Maybe lends to the idea that sleepers tend to hover closer to the nest?

[eternal talon]

it doesn't make sense statistically for you to have those great in numbers when all that was down there was some santonian drilling teams, a single team of Insight researchers, and no more than a dozen KOVAC bodyguards for said teams

[eternal talon]

likely in a similar way to how the chargers tend to stay around their biomass.

[eternal talon]

as we have seen, the sleepers have developed two ways to replace their numbers.

1. mothers, spawning and then immediately infecting human infants.
2. respawn cocoon/ceiling sacks.

the former seems to be the most similar to how the host species (humans) naturally breed. The ladder seems to be almost like single celled organisms do, producing copies of themselves.

[coarse canyon]

I was more referring to the initial infection, not repopulation, but point taken!

[solar nova]

Again, this name is a misnomer

They are not at all related.

[eternal talon]

afik we dont know if they are or aren't.

[solar nova]

"We don't know" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

It could imply that they are loosely related, and we just lack hard connections.

...Or it could imply that there is nothing tying them together at all.

The two are very different. The latter is quite clearly the case, but your statement implies the former.

[eternal talon]

i mean it as "we don't know if it is the product of research or if it is a natural variation of sleeper"

i dont mean to say there are or aren't hints. there are some things that could maybe point that way with the containment tanks, but we just literally dont know.

[solar nova]

There are simply no connections between "birther_boss" and "pmother trial samples". It doesn't make sense to mention them together ever unless you're explaining that it's a misnomer.

[eternal talon]

if any, the one thats closest in maybe being engineered, its the snatcher because of the broken open tank in r7c1

[solar nova]

Being a product of research doesn't change the probability of pmother trial samples being related to the pmom enemy.

They are not related.

[eternal talon]

look, thats just an extremely common name for that enemy. even the wiki says it

[solar nova]

Yes, it is. But you are not merely using the name, you're bringing up the samples that the name came from.

[eternal talon]

people only refer to it as "pmom" because those trail samples were a big topic of discussion when the boss was revealed so the term got attatched

-- without evidence for or against

[solar nova]

Certainly, but you're not providing the context.

You're tying them together.

For no reason.

[eternal talon]

named after the pmother trial samples... which it is. every single person i know calls it the pmom. i'm just pointing out where the name came from, not that it is 100% correct or true

[eternal talon]

i'm genuinely not, swear to god

this is just a misunderstanding of me not wording what im trying to say well

[solar nova]

It is, but you're not merely stating that fact, you're stating it in a lore context.

That implies, very straightforwardly, that there is an in-lore connection.

There is no in-lore connection.

[solar nova]

I mean, that is what I am saying.

You don't have to mean to imply something for your text to imply something.

[cunning light]

Anyhow, we cannot know for sure, as of the current state of the game. Players have named the bigger version of the Mother this way because it was a simple and easy explanation

Maybe we will get more lore about these specimens and how they came to be, maybe we won't.

I am looking forward to it though, as Mother birthing rate is quite ridiculous, and would even put to shame earth insect colonies

[solar nova]

"Cannot know for sure" is doing the heavy lifting.

[cunning light]

I do not believe they were created via experimentation, but if they were, it sounds more scary than Dauda's experiments

[solar nova]

We cannot know for sure that Henrikson is not a femboy.

We don't know if Henrikson is a femboy.

I am just putting it out there.

[cunning light]

I am aware, but we only know so much :(

[solar nova]

We only know so much about how Henrikson presents.

[cunning light]

We can speculate, but without at least some basis from the game logs or elements, it is hard to prove facts

[solar nova]

Without any information from logs or gameplay elements, it is hard to prove that Henrikson is a femboy.

[cunning light]

Henrikson being an engineer, I am not even sure how he came to be "stored" in a HSU. Maybe the same way Dauda got it in Alt:// Universe

[clear furnace]

How could they possibly have time to experiment on mothers with how fast the virus spread?

Then again their are sleepers in test tubes

[lilac island]

Him being an engineer doesn't mean he worked at garganta, we know nothing about his history beyond that so it's very possible he was put in the legion program for having a criminal past

[harsh pike]

especially considering the logistics behind it? If mothers really can constantly be birthing swarms of babies, it sounds like a hellish thing to try to run tests on

[loud urchin]

were HSUs made for space travel?

I mean it could just be poor phrasing by some random person on reddit but calling a hsu a sleep space pod is uh, questionable

[crisp citrus]

Wasn't the first use of them in a space mission to mars

Then it failed and was repurposed for it's current mind wipe prisoner storage

[burnt wren]

Basically yes.

First and foremost it's a stasis technology. Putting human individual on pause.

And first useful implementation of that was to help people bypass the sheer boringness of flying towards Mars for 5 fucking years. You'd go insane otherwise.

Same concept used in Alien way back when.

And many sci-fi settings for that matter. Flying in space is a time consuming affair.

Except for Star Wars... And maybe WH40K.

[crisp citrus]

The Martian too

They just made the crew cope

[lilac island]

Uh

He's a KSO he probably got any femboy tendancies trained/mind wiped out of him

[crisp citrus]

Canonically HSUs make you factory settings security guard

[toxic wagon]

If anything Henricksson is closer to a employee from lethal company than a femboy

[queen gazelle]

What did the hsu puts the fem boy into the Kso

Kso fem boy unit cs majors

[burnt wren]

I think the fact that he was officially listed as an engineer confirms that he's an engineer

KSOs under BIOCOM were never meant or expected to utilise their own talents or skillsets, and as such i'm sure such skill sets would never come up on KSO descriptions.
BIOCOM is a military logistics calculator first - deploying security wherever, whenever and how much of it is needed. You can even see it in the promotional pitch, juxtaposed against Garganta's conventional security forces which were tardy and somewhat disorganised.

It is the WARDEN that started using KSOs with more thought behind it, but even he never promoted us past violent asset gatherers.

Both facts that Henrikson was officially listed as a hacker, AND the fact that he actually remembered "no one calls themselves a f*cking hacker" moto makes me thinks he was legit hired by the facility, and not just another drone.
...
It does makes me wonder though... Why was he listed as a "hacker"? It clearly wasn't his idea, and i don't take Santonian for a transparent type of company.
(googles the audio log)
Hm... Shaf directly calls out that it was "Warden's file"... It would make sense for Warden to be direct about resource classifications. But... How on earth would he know that? Why would he care even bothering with such a file? Who's gonna read it, besides him?

Then again, OG Schaeffer doesn't know the difference betwen Warden and BIOCOM, so it could be just BIOCOM's original file.
... Once again: why it lists him as a "hacker" when he's "clearly" an engineer?... Suddenly, this doesn't make much sense to me.

[eternal talon]

finding out what the mole leaked to Mr. Truth?

or finding out what he knows in general

ie; counterintelligence

(not true, just my guess)

[burnt wren]

But surely you would list him as an "engineer" then, so that no one's the wiser? The man agrees with it too.

[eternal talon]

is he actually listed as a hacker though? or does he just remember it like woods remembers his religion? or how schaeffer remembers his name? or how bishop remembers davies?

we dont know how long henrikkson was under or if he entered in circumstances like dauda

if so, his memory loss would be less than our other characters

[burnt wren]

Go read / listern to the audio log of Schaeffer talking to him. HE calls him a hacker, and when Henrikson replies confused "I'm an engineer?" Schaeffer doubles down and explains that "Warden's file" lists him as a HACKER, which then prompts Hendrikson's one-liner.

[eternal talon]

*remembered davies, a second round of hydrostasis removed that

[burnt wren]

Like its a cool one-liner, but logistics behind it don't seem to add up to me anymore.

[eternal talon]

idk then. it is inside info, maybe kovac didn't care that much given they weren't running counter intel against a big fish

he isn't doing it directly either, hacker implies remotely from safety

so his job/identity being exposed wouldnt really matter

not like a spy or mole

[eternal talon]

i should also add onto this, the world of gtfo is very much a corporate dystopia where companies have far more power compared to irl. Dreyfus alone is practically google+++ levels of international power/influence

[burnt wren]

Hm. Best steel man i can come up with is that it is purely Henrikson's personal principle to never call himself a hacker from his own mouth, but its still kinda weird.

[eternal talon]

maybe he considers it cringe?

engineer sounds more professional

[burnt wren]

That's the steelman, yeah.

[cedar eagle]

Keep it to in game lore please

[summer pebble]

gtfo 5 was a part of the in game lore

it will live on in our hearts forever

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/560627432223408139

[frank shore]

why is the scout always female?

[eternal talon]

Two answers.

1. it could be due to the chemical and physiological makeup of female hosts being preferable for scout development

2. shadow scouts originated as strikers, and are thus male

But at the end of the day, the enemies are copy pasted. There is only one unique model for each type, so we wouldn't see any of the possible or likely outliers like a male scout or a female charger giant

Due to the nature of mutations being wildly unpredictable, realistically every sleeper we come across should look at least marginally different, just because of the differences in the hosts.

Where are our sleepers in crutches from workplace injury or scientist sleepers in tattered labcoats

That's another thing. For some reason, every sleeper we see is missing its clothes for some unexplained reason. You wouldn't think the parasite would go out of its way to throw away even marginal levels of protection

Hell, depending on the type of sleeper, it'd be more realistic for them to be armoring themselves with what they find in the complex to protect themselves. Now, I'm not saying they should be using guns against us as that'd probably be too complicated for them, but levels of protection from the elements is an incredibly basic part of humans

[burnt wren]

L4D did it better 😔

[eternal talon]

And those caves no doubt be cold as fuck

[eternal talon]

How so in this case? Riot armor zombies?

[burnt wren]

Workers in the road or other building cites, swamp people in the swamps, patients and med staff in hospitals etc

[eternal talon]

Even the partially transformed (nam-v) corpses are fully clothed and equipped

Unless you assume the sleepers excrete some kind of highly caustic substance, it's very strange none of them are clothed

(Ignoring babies and respawn sacks ofc)

I'd rather look at KSO sleepers in full kit and armor with guns hanging from their backpacks (dropping ammo/tool/medipacks on death?) Than tanks... why did they model tank dick?

Why model sleeper genitals AT ALL. It's very strange decision

[burnt wren]

Kso sleepers aka survivor infected from L4D2... That would be cool.

[coral gorge]

they modeled what

[eternal talon]

Also have a look at the corpse in the destroyed shack in r6b1's destination free roam. I have no idea why they are doing this.

[coral gorge]

huh

[eternal talon]

now it'd be really funny to see if automod bans picture proof if posted here

[coral gorge]

lol

[eternal talon]

I mean shit still really low Polly -- and wholly uncircumcised

[coral gorge]

and thats the story of how frosty was banned from the server - for posting sleeper genitals

[eternal talon]

Hey I ain't posting shit. I don't like playing with fire

Even if it's in-game

https://tenor.com/view/ice-age-sid-life-no-thanks-i-choose-life-gif-14162870

[burnt wren]

Jumping into fire to see if it fires is a long standing gaming tradition.

[crisp citrus]

That's true

[still flame]

Is there any more info on the Unit, or mimic as Schaeffer calls it?

[burnt wren]

More than what?

[eternal talon]

Also clarification; units in general, or that specific one

[burnt wren]

• It was Garganta's original research into custom, home-grown units to do whatever they need to do. Not clones, not knock-offs: artificial humanoids from scratch.
• Warden repurposed the research into creating - what it calls - a conduit.
• Originally we pressumed that the guys were made to replace us for ease of functions (not need for guns, turrets or anything of the sort - just pure stealth everything), but it turned that the whole purpose of the Conduit was to speak to prisoners. Directly.
• He made 20+ of them and majority of them got killed one way or another.
• They also degrade relatively quickly, so half of them probably just died "naturally".

There is a giant pile of corpses of them in... R4D2, i think? No idea what's up with that.

[eternal talon]

On point #3, under KOVAC without warden influence that probably was the intention.

[still flame]

The one

Apologies, I should have speciefied a bit more

Thank you both for the info

Mainly I was curious if there was more info on the specific Conduit Schaeffer encountered in the audio logs, if it had any more significance, since I didn't know there were more of them, I was curious if I had perhaps missed some logs

[frank shore]

more importantly why my trio is sexually attracted to those female ones

yet they cant kill the scout or giant ones themselves while i can pretty much the scout/giant killers lol
anyone else play with weirdos?

also for serious lore question, is warden an ai/computer? or is it a human

[cobalt mulch]

definitely ai, but most likely of alien origin.

[frank shore]

alien computer? whot

[cobalt mulch]

and yes for playing with weirdos. when i bonk sleepers from behind, i aim at the bum and after bonk i always utter "ass"

[frank shore]

but ur the normal type of weirdo
my trio is the weirdest

they r genuinely into them

[cobalt mulch]

the mimic in alt-r6 tells scaheffer "warden is of us", and elsewhere there was reports of data cables getting fused into the black crystal things and inducing latency to connections or something .. so its implied the wrdn is an alien hack job

[frank shore]

what does aliens has to do with these monsters tho

a meteor that killed dinosaurs is the reason why humanity started to mutate etc but other than that idk

[cobalt mulch]

the meteor was no hunk of rock, twas a ship that crashed. brought the virus, and the parasites.

humans went in to mine for iridium, dug too deep. it got out, humanity ends.

only reason we are still around is hydrostasis, we go in the pod and get healed while we coma

[frank shore]

so the statis removes the parasite/virus etc?

even if ur infected?

what bout fully mutated like sleepers what if they got into stasis? will they turn back to human?

[burnt wren]

Nope.

[cobalt mulch]

nothing lives in hydrostasis without the computers letting it .. .. and a good question, there's a bunch of stuff written in the pinned docs about what happens to parasite+namv hosts (loss of bones etc)

[burnt wren]

Hyrostasis is exceptionally carefully curated to make sure things inside survive the clinical death and wake up.
You could make a sleeper survive Hyrostasis. Just out him on pause.
Or... He just won't wake up, because his cells will melt. Or he gets Maddox treatment.

[frank shore]

any1 know whens the next gtfo patch or uptade?

hate it when bots dont take the items u want them to like fog repellers or medkits or syringes etc

they just take lock melter over grenade or mines lol

[cobalt mulch]

they hard at work doing a trailer for rundown 8 and many leaks from it already, noone knows exactly but might be soon.

for bots being bots, there's not much u can do about it, officially

[burnt wren]

I highly doubt they will fix bots.

[frank shore]

😦

so any new monsters when r8 drops?

[cobalt mulch]

noone knows other than the leaked shooter tentacle thing #dev-leaks message

[harsh pike]

at least 1, hopefully more

[hot burrow]

Re skinned monster. Take it or leave it

[clear furnace]

Theres gonna be more lol

It would be...sad if there wasnt

[lilac island]

ah yes

the elusive

i mean they did get a model to sit in diapers and a hardhat for their website store

dev team makes some weird shit

gtfo diapers too

about the genitals on sleepers, they're probably simply no longer useful so they either just kinda detach themselves or get just kinda mutated away

same as eyeballs or fingers

namv gets rid of the useless stuff

[queen gazelle]

Them modeling sleeper genitalia so based so cool

[final sentinel]

oh i thought they chewed their fingers off ngl

[coarse canyon]

Unless clothes get in the way of the pulse

[coarse canyon]

I suggest you read the pinned Lore for Dummies

[coarse canyon]

Look at the dev leaks

[cunning light]

We know at least of one new variant from the Dev leaks, and either the same or another from the previous leak sounds.

[mental stump]

did the intel for rundown 2 always say CONDUIT STRATEGY INITIATED

[eternal talon]

i don't recall.

[harsh saffron]

Yup, og R2 didnt have the intel thingy yet.

[keen mantle]

At least?? Isn’t it just 1 so far?

[final sentinel]

There was a sound based leak