gtfo-lore

[eternal talon]

no, canonically there is only one MWP. it is artifact #7 of the hammerstein collection. it's not a type of artifact -- its unique. as to how it got into that storage zone in r7c-tier, maybe the warden had another team using it and they stored it there for us to find later but sleepers moved in in the meantime

i miss red glowsticks honestly. they looked pretty fuckin' dope

[eternal talon]

I just caught sight of a preliminary report on the item they're calling the Data Block - artifact 13 of the Hammerstein Collection
**Okay, let’s start with artifact 7 of the collection, the Matter Wave Projector. **
**I have some thoughts on artifacts 13, 14 and 17. I’m referring to these items as “The Data Blocks”, **
The bizarre disappearance of the equipment while working on Artifact 13 suggests some method of transformation or even transportation beyond our current understanding.

they've also contained bishop's mask in alt// as an artifact interestingly enough
So now we have this mask. I don’t know if this means anything, but I’m stumped. I have secured the item in the artifact vault should you want us to run any further tests on it.

[eternal talon]

As of the blast in 2053, insight seems to believe they have collected most, if not all of the artifacts.
We have created quark-gluon plasma in hadron colliders, but nothing even close to this power or temperature, so how were the QGP streams formed? Is there a machine or artifact we have yet to find?

in the ten years since they've never mentioned finding another one, and even still, only refer to the matter wave projector in the singular in logs.

[harsh pike]

also doesn't make sense that after the matter wave collapse, WRDN/biocom is still corrupted

in r7e1

so it can't be the moment we moved to alt

[burnt wren]

That too.

We still have no fucking idea what's going on.

It's all up to R8 now.

Spill the beans or GTFO

[eternal talon]

you guys are almost certainly going to be disappointed

one rundown isn't going to cover even half of what remains.

at best all we can expect is logs, unless they are seriously hiding things that haven't been pushed through secretly in updates.

[harsh pike]

oh I know

I already am disappointed with how they took the story

[eternal talon]

like im not sure how they handled gardens tile, as i doubt it was in r6's code

but i seriously dont expect the solve-all answers people are hoping for.

gameplay alone, they dont have the capacity to make cutscenes or the like...

its really annoying not knowing what they will/wont use of their r8 tiles in the code. they've got a fair bit in there that they've done some work on i've heard

but it really just looks like most of the same stuff with a bit of KDS-Deep

in terms of an ending, i think it'll be a cliffhanger

because as far as i know, thats really all that can be done

it'd require a major effort to made something special just for the last level

and knowing they've shifted their development to their new game as far back as r7~ gamescom, i really doubt they'd have the manpower to either try, or to pull off someting like credits and a finale

i think being optimistic, we might get a sort walking segment post-teleport if that's where they end the story

but all expeditions end the same way. that same "expedition completed" screen cut with music and screams

that by itself i feel is probably the biggest challenge for a non-cliffhanger ending

[raw terrace]

idk if this is agame where a credits scene would b done tbh

like on paper for an endin sure but for replays of the mission or just general, way to end things after idk, the E1 that it could be

its funky

[eternal talon]

right? it just doesnt fit how they've structured their menus/gameplay switching

you complete it and back to the rundown screen

[harsh pike]

i imagine they'll do something different for the finale

[raw terrace]

yeah like even just by completin the level the credits would be really annoyin on a second run or whatev

[harsh pike]

i'd hope at least

[eternal talon]

you dont want 4 people waiting 10 mins in credits lol

[harsh pike]

skippable credits are a thing

[raw terrace]

tbh what i wouldnt dislike is, more of r6d1 like, where its a big climatic maybs even gameplay ending and u get a moment maybs of lore or whatev, and then its still an extract scan with the end screen

i get that is not the most, climatic thing in the world to end gtfo like it

but i dont think it any other way

[eternal talon]

i mean at least that does make some semblance of sense -- we return to a standard extract

now the transition from us killing the kraken to wandering back to extract....

[raw terrace]

qwq did i set off bad stuff

is this a rant now ksmdkm

[eternal talon]

"how will they finish the game" has been a major ranting point since i think at least r7.

a lot of people dont think they can do it in a satisfying way with how they've set up their game

[raw terrace]

i meant more this part skdmks

also i kinda get em but i have my own hopes

and not-expectatives

[eternal talon]

in lore parts, its moreso they've made a mountain of things that are unexplained that they wanted us to theorize on, but then they haven't given themselves enough time to actually explain and give a good conclusion to all of these story beats

like, for one example, what the fuck was the deal with the goldie cipher? what's the deal with rebecca and howard stokes not being allowed to talk to eachother?

they set up a mini-story in r7 with the two stokes' and the infection/lockdown of Houston, and then just never continued the story in the logs, just completely dropped it out of nowhere

that was a lead-up log for r7 too. it was in the corrupted folder to lead us into r7 to build hype, but was ultimately completely meaningless

[harsh pike]

some stories add onto the lore with new content, but gtfo just bloats it more often than not

[plush nest]

it would be neat to see like log books of the differnt enemy types sort of like risk of rain or something

[harsh pike]

a logbook for collected logs / enemy info would be cool

ala hunt showdown

[plush nest]

ya just something to be able to see the logs that you have already found and then after running into enemies x amount of times you get a little description of them

[harsh saffron]

Btw, the Lore Database should be up to date again.

[lilac island]

rundown expeditions happen in chronological order, correct?

First r7a1, then b1 b2 b3, THEN c1 c2 c3, etc

they dont go like a1 b1 c1 or anything else weird

[burnt wren]

Yep

At least that's the general assumption.

[lilac island]

then what the hecc is r7e1

[burnt wren]

Not sure we have a hardcore data on that, but we have a funny theory

[lilac island]

dont we go "i'm out" in r7d2

[burnt wren]

I don't know if you played R6 yet

[lilac island]

not all of it

it takes too long to get through the game ._.

[burnt wren]

Its really not, just gotta commit to it. Anyway...

In R6B1 we use an artifact to get to our destination.

BUT! We don't bring it back with us, Warden extracts us rather hastily. And yet... We have the artifact back in, uh... R6D1? I think?

But in R6C3 our objective is to distract the horde while "another objective is being achieved". Our current theory is that we play a distacting while another squad goes back to R6B1 and retreives the artifact for us, hence why we have it back in D1.

Although honestly my memory is super foggy. Do we have it back? Have we seen it ever again? Dammit, not i'm suspicious. Where's that damn wiki...

Nope, wiki doesn't know. Unfortunate.

Anyway we need that stupid crystal, so surely Warden retreived it one way or another.

[plush nest]

Last time I remember seeing my friend the crystal was r6b1, but I have only gotten up to c3 done

[eternal talon]

You were right.

[solemn kraken]

R7E1 is schaeffer letting us loose

[lilac island]

..why?

just trolling?

[raw terrace]

silly

[solemn kraken]

Nah in R7D2 he hacks into Biocom/warden to take control. (deploys a trojan)

[lilac island]

he frees us in r7d2, right

wait how does d2 end

[solemn kraken]

We just extract

[lilac island]

oh

and then he deploys us in e1

basically

[solemn kraken]

But from what I gathered we are immediatly dropped to R7E1 as schaeffer is controlling the elevator

[lilac island]

is e1 just a reactor

(please say no)

[solemn kraken]

There is some stuff before, but the reactor is the fun part

the rest is ......

boring

[lilac island]

why reactor

i dont like reactors they are boring

[solemn kraken]

This one has very tight timings and if you fail a code you might not have enough ammo to finish

[lilac island]

i would expect nothing else from an e1

oh wait you prolly need to hunt codes dont you

alright i take that back

[solemn kraken]

It's top 2 easiest E in the game

[lilac island]

what's the other one

[solemn kraken]

R2E1 is the easiest

[lilac island]

oh nice

[solemn kraken]

So try it out and now what awaits you 😏

[lilac island]

yeah tomorrow is e1 time

[harsh pike]

r7d2 they talk aobut how the trojan isn't going to fully work until the system reboots

so you get sent down to the reactor that presumably powers biocom to restart it

[lilac island]

oh fancy

so warden gets the stick in r7

me like

i can't wait to see how this will backfire in r8 when scheaffer realizes warden is just trying to fix this or w/e

[solemn kraken]

ee dunno if it worked

[burnt wren]

Well it already did, bastard reset the timeline

But it still makes no fucking sense

Is there an infinity of Schaeffers breaking Warden's plans? Is the whole membrane thing was always pre-planned or its a response to Schaeffer's intervention, specifically? Are the collectors saying the truth or they just have to get rid of Schaeffer or else? There are so many discrepancies and uncertanties that only R8 can and have to answer, and dear god the chances it will be a good one are not great.

[harsh pike]

depends if r8 is in the alt timeline or the original

i'd be annoyed if they just left the original rundown's timeline on the r7e1 cliffhanger

[eternal whale]

Wait. The alt rundowns and normal rundowns are actual separate timelines in lore?

[harsh pike]

yeah

it's stupid

our characters are the same

although you'd be forgiven for not knowing that considering they never once comment on their deja vu situation

[eternal whale]

Yeah, that feels...

I don't actually know how to feel about that.

Is there any other mention of split timelines in play?

[harsh pike]

I despise it and feel like making alt rundowns canonically different was waste of budget for VA/etc

[harsh pike]

i'm not sure

just that everything in alt is different

[eternal whale]

I see.

[harsh pike]

schaeffer is a completely different personality for example

[eternal whale]

Oh, really?

[harsh pike]

yeah in ALT he has a different job, and wants to work with the warden

versus OG's fuck-this-thing-we're-getting-out attitude

idk how much you've played, I don't wanna spoil but there is also a much bigger example of alternate universe

[eternal whale]

Eh, I don't mind spoilers. Story's a bit too dense for my peabrain to parse alone

What's the alt-universe example?

[harsh pike]

||at the end of R6CX you find the corpses of this alternate universe's Dauda and Bishop||

[eternal whale]

Oh my god.

[harsh pike]

of course our squad says nothing about it

average tuesday

The alt universe squad is different too, from the interview logs in r5

I never played the original so i'm just going off the wiki

not that we'll likely meet any of them alive

[eternal whale]

This is a big bombshell, god damn

[harsh pike]

no idea wtf our team was doing in the alt timeline

considering we do all the same missions

or WHY any of this is happening

well actually yes we do know that

[eternal whale]

Do you imagine something in r8 will explain this?

[eternal talon]

Maybe.

They've got too much to explain as it is.

[pine agate]

Just watch R8 be flooded with lore logs lmao

[solemn kraken]

We are playing the OG squad

Mb the phrasing was off. it's what you say as well

[clear furnace]

Or just R8 will be massive, but one can only dream

[cold sphinx]

Yeah massive

Listening to audio logs

While error alarm goin on

That cant be turned off

[coral gorge]

No the error lasts till the audio log finishes

its schafer talking to us about some shit while henrikson is trying to shut down the error

[harsh pike]

Pull an r7c3

Henrikson tries to do something, Schaeffer rushes him, he fucks it up

[loud urchin]

Warden protocol but there's a schaeffer henrikson sitcom going on in the background for the entire duration

[harsh pike]

every time there's a laugh track a tank spawns

[plush nest]

Every fifth laugh is a Pablo

[clear furnace]

GTFO but its just a sitcom

"Hey woods, you c-foamed the door right?"
"Yeah, of course I did..."
"Woods..."
Laugh track plays as a door buckles beneath the weight of the horde

[young stone]

I know this is quite old lore, but does anyone know what the "scientific" names in alt R3A1 log 7GY-HYP-SDW are meant to refer to?

the first one, "Gallus {genus}" seems to be referring to standard sleepers, and maybe the "dark skinned variant" is shadows, as as I'd assumed the last entry, "Gallus Horridus" refers to chargers. "Gallus Capreolatus" I assume is a scout, or maybe a snatcher, given the mention of tendrils, but I don't know what "Gallus Reptus" or "Gallus Jaculus" refer to, though I assume tank and mother since there aren't any other enemy varieties left lol

[coral gorge]

First one refers to regular sleepers, the white and red variant (we only see white ingame), second i think its chargers, 3rd is scout

[young stone]

oh interesting, I didn't know there was a red variant. I assume it's mentioned in some random log somewhere?

[coral gorge]

Yeah

or in a couple

canonically only the red variant dissolves after death

[lilac island]

aren't alarm sleepers red?

[coral gorge]

I do not believe so

They are just regular sleepers i think

[young stone]

oh, that's funny. I didn't realize the in-game enemies dissolving is non-canon, that seems weird lol

and yeah blood door enemies are just normal enemies

[coral gorge]

yeahhh

they basically made a plot hole kinda

[young stone]

i feel like enemies dissolving after death is the kind of thing that you can just like, not acnowledge in the lore and people will just implicitly understand it's a gameplay thing

like the revive stations in borderlands, no one questioned them until they became "canon" and then people started being like wait why don't the bosses use them?

[eternal talon]

yes.

have a pic right in front of me rn that i could post, but its modded so don't really think i should as its just a screencap of an alarm

(its not a mod-specific thing, it's PT, i made it, i didn't change that)

[eternal talon]

i found shirtless woods.

(GTFO world premiere trailer)

[fresh gyro]

myes

[burnt wren]

That's probably from the time when we actually were just literal prisoners, because he looks exactly like a stereotypical violent criminal

[fresh gyro]

violentcriminal.png

[lilac island]

https://youtu.be/BDUg1w_GL54 was this a snatcher

[coral gorge]

yeah

i cant listen to it

but in R7B1 we do hear schafer talk about seeing a snatcher

so i assume its that log

also who the fuck calls it a pouncer

[fresh gyro]

spagett man

[burnt wren]

Mountain man does.

[coral gorge]

who the fuck is mountain man

and where does he live so i can pay him a visit

[burnt wren]

The smiling wall face avatar

Previously known as R2D1

[coral gorge]

oh

i see

[burnt wren]

And knowing him it's probably because it's called that in game code

But not sure

[lilac island]

Also

Weren't snatchers introduced in r6

[burnt wren]

Nope.

[lilac island]

Ohkay

[final sentinel]

R7

[lilac island]

I really dislike snatchers

[burnt wren]

They were mentioned way before that though. Schaeffer literally mentions "snatchers" in one of his audio recordings.

[lilac island]

I'm not into vore

[burnt wren]

Not in R6 even, way before that.

[lilac island]

That's interesting

[burnt wren]

They always wanted to add that enemy, but couldn't quite implement him.

So we ended up with an enemy that breaks team cohesion for a second.

[fresh gyro]

:D

[burnt wren]

He's not even an insta killer like L4D special infected are. Grab a player, redeploy him 30 meters away among a awake of smalls, job done.

[lilac island]

Me no like

Me hate

[burnt wren]

I like him, bring unique flavour to combat. Shame he's used so rarely.

[fresh gyro]

snatcher uwu

[burnt wren]

The only enemy I'm genuinely terrified of.

[lilac island]

I don't enjoy the process

They sound terrifying

I haven't encountered one but jesus

Can't outrun it

It has armour

Can't dodge the spaghetti

[fresh gyro]

r7c1 is the easiest way to encounter it

:D

i think

at least

i know its in r5e1 but idr where else

probably some random levels

[lilac island]

I think they're in r6

[timid sparrow]

which r7 level introduces them again

[burnt wren]

C1

B1 mentions them

[lilac island]

Are they ever sleepy

Wiki said no

[burnt wren]

Not yet, but animations are there

R8 maybe

[fresh gyro]

not yet

then again

[timid sparrow]

I think they just have the animations for every enemy just in case

[burnt wren]

Room full of 20 sleeping snatchers, imagine that.

[fresh gyro]

babies werent eepy

[fresh gyro]

:D

[burnt wren]

Actual stealth for ones.

[fresh gyro]

one small mistake

wait

hear me out

[lilac island]

Mine

[fresh gyro]

extraction room with 40 snatchers

:D

[fresh gyro]

its still like

what

[timid sparrow]

like I doubt they are going to use sleeping pablo

[fresh gyro]

4 mines for a snatcher kill?

thats def wrong

but

[burnt wren]

Mines do jack shit to snatchers anyway, waste of tool

[fresh gyro]

i know a tank is like 8

yea

they do fuckall

trust

i tried in c1

for the memes

[burnt wren]

Snatchers are actually choker's one true niche

[fresh gyro]

cause they gave us like 20 mines

[burnt wren]

Mag dumps them like mad

[fresh gyro]

lmao

scatter the snatch :D

[timid sparrow]

I think you still have to wait for it to turn around with that

[fresh gyro]

no

just jump above it

:D

[burnt wren]

You can shoot it as it stands up to grab

[fresh gyro]

that too

i guess

[timid sparrow]

that I didnt know

[fresh gyro]

it onehits i think

wait

two

right

wait no

its *2 for back

so

[lilac island]

I don't like that the snatcher takes control away from you

[fresh gyro]

like

one hit and

idk

three carbine bursts?

[lilac island]

If you don't dump 1 kg of lead into it

You're kinda fucked

And then i guess the team can get you

How does a human even fit inside a snatcher

They don't look that big

[burnt wren]

They're very big

[fresh gyro]

yes

[burnt wren]

When one stands up he's about as large as a giant

[fresh gyro]

they are very big

you can be pretty far away to scatter it

so thats

that

[burnt wren]

I have him on video somewhere

[fresh gyro]

like i was

idk

a whole floor above it

when i scattered one

[lilac island]

I think the game would be scarier if strikers actually used their jaws

They seem to be decorative

[burnt wren]

Same and very lame

[lilac island]

Small strikers only tongue you and big giants just punch

[fresh gyro]

small strikers do hit you

[raw terrace]

maybs it's more of a thing so first u can shake em off easier when they are about to attack [cause they r in front not inside of u like chargers do]
and cause it seems like the mouth doesn't move a lot tbh

[fresh gyro]

giants do tongue you

[fresh gyro]

helmp carry r1a1

:D

[lilac island]

No they don't

They can't punch you

[crisp citrus]

I think they bite you in close range

[fresh gyro]

i swore they did

yea im probably wrong

wtv

[lilac island]

I swear they dont

I've never seen it happen in 150 hours

[raw terrace]

strikers don't punch

those are chargers

[fresh gyro]

well

im probably tripping so

[raw terrace]

u will always hear the lick comin from em even if they r 7 millimeters away

[fresh gyro]

anyways

[lilac island]

I think we need to need to need to neEd to nED το Νεeδ Το n3

[fresh gyro]

see im so bad at game

i forgor strikers dont hit

helmp cawry

:D

[lilac island]

We have to make strikers chomp

It doesn't have to be good

[burnt wren]

It's very unfortunate that they don't bite, because their horrifying Jaws are like the mascot of the game

[fresh gyro]

yea

[burnt wren]

but they mean nothing

[lilac island]

Yeah :v

[fresh gyro]

why baby so ugly

:<

[lilac island]

I guess they're for eating killed prey or whatever

But cmon

[raw terrace]

cause um lore reasons um

it's a goblin

[fresh gyro]

big ass head for a goblin

[raw terrace]

idk would be a weird animation to see lmao

idk how would they do it

[lilac island]

I think that the dev team actually like cannot create different sizes of striker heads

It's like a game engine limitation

[fresh gyro]

hm

interesting

[raw terrace]

makes em look better, babies that is

[lilac island]

That's why everything has the same size head

They physically cannot change the size

[fresh gyro]

well

scouts have bigger heads

[lilac island]

Shooter heads

Not striker heads

[raw terrace]

shadow scouts ?

[fresh gyro]

fair

yea

[lilac island]

No because we can't see the hed

[fresh gyro]

shadow scouts have striker heads

[raw terrace]

thermal

[lilac island]

It is another head

[fresh gyro]

but larger

?

[lilac island]

No their dont

[fresh gyro]

ehhh

debatable

[lilac island]

How do you know

[raw terrace]

thermal u can see it

[lilac island]

We can't see it

[fresh gyro]

yea

[lilac island]

SHUSH

[fresh gyro]

you can

with thermals

[raw terrace]

:] thermal

[lilac island]

MY THEORY NOOOO

[raw terrace]

so lore reasons for the shadows is-

[fresh gyro]

cawwy

:D

[raw terrace]

cause gtfo lore

[lilac island]

We literally know nothing about shadows

[fresh gyro]

becaus

[raw terrace]

so lore for me is that um they are anchored in another dimension like the waterwraight

ur welcome

i go go gtfo chat now

[solemn kraken]

Shadow scouts do be rocking that striker head tho

[burnt wren]

Which is fascinsting. Why.

[raw terrace]

cause shadows don't shoot

i think

no that was chargers

[lilac island]

convinience

[raw terrace]

then i guess would be to just not make another model, it's invisible

they made em before thermals

[lilac island]

i dontthinkitsalorething

tobetotallyhonest

theyjustwent"ohjustusethissinceit'sbigger"

andthat'swhy

[raw terrace]

like how we are in the gtfo lore channel

[solemn kraken]

Why not?

lazy devving

[solemn kraken]

They do 😅 which makes it more funny

[raw terrace]

lazy ok sure

cause makin a model for an invisible enemy is lazy

ur gonna b crazy when u see silent hill doesn't load all the map and the fog is to load it in real time

[burnt wren]

I mean it makes sense to take shortcuts with a model that is never to be seen, but then they added guns that can see them so.........

[raw terrace]

it's not like it looks bad either

if it was just invisible n that's it, it would've been a circle

with no teeth lmao

[solemn kraken]

There is A LOT of reasons for me to say lazy devving

At this point the inconsistencies pile up

[raw terrace]

zzz it bores me to hear em

devs never are at fault unless it's a team of like two people, 10c is 100, they very much have planning and people at higher positions tellin devs what to do

so i imagine is s fault of 10c higher ups not focusin well between their two games and all the things they need to fix

this is lore btw

[solemn kraken]

k

[raw terrace]

so that's the lore of 10c now im gonna go back to one of the other channels

[burnt wren]

I have a high suspicion that they gave them jaw head just to mess with hitbox and freak out people.

[fresh gyro]

Lmao

[solemn kraken]

If you jump you still bonk em just as easy

[bronze wing]

i thought it was so an enemy variant that doesn't have a shooter type, doesnt have a shooter type

[solemn kraken]

They don't have shooters. But shadow scouts do shoot.

[bronze wing]

oh

i wouldn't know that because i never messed up a shadow scout kill

[lilac island]

@eternal talon , r7b3 overload screenshot with torn apart bodies of humans?

[solemn kraken]

Play more pubs

[bronze wing]

maybe

[queen gazelle]

They did shadow scouts with striker head because they already had the shadow model so they just upscaled it and gave it scout animation.

This would also show that making giants scouts would be very easy you wouldn’t even need to write code for it

You just need to arrange data correctly. Which is a thing that exists.

[burnt wren]

Like giant giant scouts? 120 HP and all?

How comes it's not a thing yet...

[eternal talon]

yes. took maddox' corpse

[eternal talon]

iirc he got himself banned from lore channel so you gotta go look elsewhere in the discord

[eternal talon]

sauce?

[eternal talon]

true, though OG snatcher was way way different

[eternal talon]

blood door with 5 snatchers is one hell of a thing. truly terrifying

[eternal talon]

they are like a foot or two taller than the average human, but mostly hollow

[burnt wren]

OG Rundown 4.
Log SCHFR003.REC from R4E1.
"... I hear the screams of the snatchers as they attack you!..."

[cunning light]

It could also have been a name Schaeffer chose to call the strikers

[burnt wren]

That's stupid.

[eternal talon]

they don't have a melee ability in their EDB

"AI_Abilities": [
{
"Enabled": true,
"AbilityPrefab": "Assets/AssetPrefabs/Characters/Enemies/Abilities/EAB_StrikerTentacle.prefab",
"AbilityType": "Melee",
"Cooldown": 1.5
},
{
"Enabled": true,
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"AbilityType": "DoorBreaker",
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],

its only doorbreaker and tongue

[cunning light]

Because as far as I know, they are not given names (outside of the Hammerstein Collection)

[burnt wren]

They are just sleepers. Snatcher is a specific name. But then... He doesn't recognise one when meets it in R7B1.

Argh. Hate it.

Maybe he did indeed, but why that name?!

[cunning light]

Would they be called "Sleepers" before we woke up years after the incident ?

[burnt wren]

That's just devs being meta.

[cunning light]

To found them sleeping inside the complex

[eternal talon]

they can... very easily

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],

[eternal talon]

thats all shadow scouts are. upscaled strikers with the scout tendril code

[cunning light]

That is probably just my own thoughts regarding the log you mentioned :)

They just did not think about the "to-be" Snatcher in game at that point

[burnt wren]

The more we talk about anything the more we hit the wall of "it's just writer incompetence". It's not even funny at this point.

[eternal talon]

this isn't confirmed. this is an old theory at that.

[burnt wren]

Lord, may R8 be at least a 6/10.

[cunning light]

On a Lore scale ? Or gameplay-wise ? ^^

[burnt wren]

Both, but lore in priority.

[eternal talon]

i got a bunch of pictures of r7b3 but not sure what you mean by this

[cunning light]

I have no idea how they will wrap that in a single Rundown, but am definitely curious to see what they come up with :)

[eternal talon]

unless?

[raw terrace]

ik but is funny and i like

[eternal talon]

ah, neat.

[eternal talon]

i agree

[lilac island]

was that straight up phrophecy by sheaffer or what

that log

[eternal talon]

tbf they were also sleeping in the ship for 65 million years

[burnt wren]

I mean

We have 2 confirmed Schaeffer's running around

What's one more

[lilac island]

what

okay

[burnt wren]

Inb4 room full of Schaeffer corpses like that one room with mimics

[eternal talon]

still, i think they've got too much on the table to cover. it's like going to dinner with your Italian grandma

[burnt wren]

He wants the screenshot of R7B3 overload room. Chargers with spooky ceiling.

[eternal talon]

i mean technically.... there are an infinite number of schaeffers running around that we just haven't interacted with

[lilac island]

dd7j something told me you had some ss of that room and human corpses

or something

[eternal talon]

and an infinite number of anyone/everyone else that is surviving downhere

gimme the worldline where its a bunch of circus clowns in garganta

[eternal talon]

i dont have any human corpses from there, the only thing i found if i remember correctly in overload was that torn up sleeper corpse

all the HSUs are innacessible or empty/open

[lilac island]

yeah that one i guess

[eternal talon]

^

[lilac island]

what's that tail on that thing

thre's like a massive intestine on the bottom with a spiked end

that's not a human organ

[eternal talon]

that just is the intestine

[cobalt mulch]

alas; a colon

[lilac island]

there's no way the large intestine is that large

is it actually that massive

[coral gorge]

What are we talkinh about?

[eternal talon]

the average human intestine is 15 feet long...

[lilac island]

what the big organ on this image is

[cobalt mulch]

constipated for long enough, y not 🙂

[raw terrace]

did u know the small intestine is
6 meters long

[lilac island]

yes but that's the small one

[coral gorge]

also i still am awaiting the day we get to vivisect all sleepers

[raw terrace]

big intestine is 1.5

[cobalt mulch]

worms world party

[raw terrace]

thats like a small person

[eternal talon]

wtf are you people having me google search

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-long-are-your-intestines

[raw terrace]

of intestine

[raw terrace]

is a trick so ur history search is weird :3

[coral gorge]

your search history will look like one of a psycho eventually

[coral gorge]

ot it might look like one already

[coral gorge]

they’re dead tho

i want a live one

i wonder if that would make them feel pain

actually they cant feel pain

[eternal talon]

there are still people in there...

[coral gorge]

dont answer that

[raw terrace]

nom nom sleeper

[coral gorge]

lets see if we can make them scream

[eternal talon]

they already do, thanks to the parasite forcing them when you bash their friend too close

[coral gorge]

honestly i kinda wish they made the horror aspect a bit bigger and have the sleepers sometimes say words or even sentences

[lilac island]

maybe

[coral gorge]

like imagine walking into a room full of sleepers and just hearing a cascade of voices

[lilac island]

giving sleepers different pitches of voice randomly would be good

slightly different

[coral gorge]

Yeah

[lilac island]

so that it reinforces that all these were seperate humans once

[coral gorge]

and obv have a shit ton of variety

[eternal talon]

half life 2 did it a decade and a half earlier

[coral gorge]

so even after a couple hours it doesnt get repetetive

[coral gorge]

ngl never played any half life

[eternal talon]

you WHAT

[coral gorge]

=)

chuckles, im in danger

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-you-what-what-did-you-do-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-19389913

[lilac island]

i haven't either

and im ok with that

[burnt wren]

get him

[lilac island]

it is an old game

[final sentinel]

i haven't either

[lilac island]

we are stronger united

[eternal talon]

stop talking. go buy the valve collection for like 50c on steam, and spend the next week playing through the entire franchise bar alyx.

also pick up a copy of black mesa, the remake of the first game

DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES PLAY HALF LIFE SOURCE, just do yourself a favor and play the original

[lilac island]

i disagree

i think i should spend my time soloing levels in gtfo instead

[coral gorge]

lets see how much it costs in my country

[eternal talon]

https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/231/HalfLife_Complete/

[coral gorge]

150

[eternal talon]

if you really need to, wait until the games are 99c each on sale.

valve murder the prices of their games during sales

[coral gorge]

damn

how come when i murder its illegall

but when a company does it its great

[eternal talon]

because video games aren't people

[eternal talon]

150 usd?

no fucking way. the collection i just posted is flat 60 without bundle discounts

[coral gorge]

nah

150 polish

if it was 150 usd it would be… 700 ish polish

[pastel ether]

don't mind me just checking if something works here

[[Rundown 7.0 Logs]]

[amber nimbus]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_7.0_Logs

[pastel ether]

[[Rundown 7.0 Logs#D3T-INI-FNI]]

[amber nimbus]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_7.0_Logs#D3T-INI-FNI

[pastel ether]

nice

[lilac island]

wow

for the first time i saw the question "why do sleepers know where i am" affect gameplay

https://youtu.be/zTL2JyFrRdY?t=132

[lilac island]

does the mother birth from its back?

[coral gorge]

it births from its below

which its kinda hard to tell

But id say it births from its stomach

[lilac island]

i saw a video of the mother twerking in a meme

and the huge gash is on its upper back

[coral gorge]

yes

wait

[lilac island]

https://youtu.be/ECveVNPXnjU

[coral gorge]

huh

[lilac island]

the first clip shows like the thing is on its upper back

[coral gorge]

i guess it walks with its back on the ground

[lilac island]

weird

[lilac island]

https://youtu.be/7kv-koAsDEY

here scheaffer actually considers the idea that he warden is good

but then i guess he throws it in the garbage for some reason

scheaffer is probably just ruining everything

[harsh pike]

We don't really know

WRDN/the 'collectors' could just be lying to us

[lilac island]

that means the warden would be trolling

and why would it troll

[harsh pike]

it does a little trolling

[lilac island]

that would be just stupid

warden honestly is our best shot at whatever

[harsh pike]

personally I really hate the alien-ex-machina to save us so thats why im hoping it's BS but only time will tell

[lilac island]

personally i don't think warden is alien

it's just an AI someone last resorted into a usb

[harsh pike]

have you played r6d1?

[lilac island]

like made a self improving AI and just told it "solve this pls" and then let that sucker rip

nope

[harsh pike]

you should play r6d1

[lilac island]

no i don't think i will

i will not leave this headcanon

allien ai is not real

[harsh pike]

I like your headcanon better

used to think that was the case

[lilac island]

r6d1 is a dream

idk what log you want me to look at for r6d1

i just see a guy complaining about things comign out of a tunnel

[harsh pike]

alt r6d1

the very first log when you drop in between schaeffer and the thing

[lilac island]

wait

that log straight up tells us

the warden's goal

..wtf

send humans elsewhere with the matter wave projector to save them, then burn the bridge by destroying it

**96.35% of humans in this membrane are impure. The virus is the primary life force. The humans must leave. **

**A clean membrane will be determined. Humans will project, then destroy the Projector. The Collection will be complete. **

membrane = universe

cool

so this is literally straight up just the warden's goal right here

send the remaining humans away in another multiverse and burn the bridge to save the species

also why did scheaffer bludgeon another mimic with a fuckin metal pipe he was talking to this one just fine

scheaffer is the real villain of this

delusional

i solved gtfo thanks grongus

[harsh pike]

the one in original might've just been a regular ass unit/mimic

it didn't really say anything about WRDN's plan to schaeffer

[lilac island]

It did

[lilac island]

This is extremely direct

Warden is part of aliens, your reality is screwed, you need to go

It literally spelled it out

[cold sphinx]

As ALT world is rn

It is beyond saving

The virus can outlast even nuclear wars

So whats the point of trying to return

Is what the last resort is

[harsh pike]

i'm talking about the original mimic

that schaeffer clobbered

that one basically just spouted the 'default' mimic lines (we are not so different, are you a cat/dog person)

[cold sphinx]

AI

[eternal talon]

different schaeffers. also don't assume its telling the truth. it's killed humans before

if you listen to the jump audio in alt//r6d1, he talks to us "as if we haven't ever spoken with him before"

[wary portal]

Did he actually say that he killed other humans? 🤔

[solemn kraken]

The OG didn't

The ALT was not clobbered by Schaeffer

[lilac island]

different scheaffers?

how needlessly complicated is this gonna get

[burnt wren]

Multiverse tends to do that

[lilac island]

why did we go into multiverses

[burnt wren]

shrug

Its like the ultimate bait for every writer

Very few walked away from it unscathed

[solemn kraken]

Cause they needed padding till Cyberheist

Alt rundowns are the padding

[timid sparrow]

it has the same issue as randomly throwing in time travel where the stakes no longer matter since they can undo everything

[toxic wagon]

They were permafoaming us until R8 comes out

But still curious what r8 will have in store for us. Next to if anything beyond even happens

[crisp citrus]

Rundown 8 adds a single level called "Escape"

You must get out of the facility from the lowest level

Fight upwards through 500 rooms in every biome without checkpoints

12 hour mission

[burnt wren]

Cautious hype

[crisp citrus]

I'm sure it'll be at least good

[solemn kraken]

Sadly we know about 3 A levels and 4 B levels.

[burnt wren]

Nice, free apparel

[solemn kraken]

Yeah but it really will depend how much above 80 missions they go ....

71 + 7

[burnt wren]

Well... "Free".
Inb4 one of them is a with 3 reactors 😫

[solemn kraken]

So bare minimum would be 3 missions to put it at 81

So... 3 A, 4 B, 1C 1D 1E

or worse even 3A, 4B, 2C 1D

3A 4B 3C 😭

[burnt wren]

Ideally it should be just be 3-4 of each.

[solemn kraken]

Would be ideal.

[burnt wren]

But it's pointless to speculate. We just have to trust in the process.

[solemn kraken]

I really really hope they put out more than the bare minimum

[burnt wren]

Someone probably play testing a mission as we speak.

[solemn kraken]

Could be

[burnt wren]

I wonder how devs measure the difficulty of a level. Do they beat it themselves or something?

[solemn kraken]

I think they got bughunters for it

What I've seen from devstreams......

[amber dust]

Love the story is there anyone who has a collective anthology of the objectives and how they further the plot?

[burnt wren]

Nothing so detailed. Most of the objectives are pretty boring. We fix power supplies, acquire access codes, collect DNA data, etc.

But they're all just grains in the sand.

You can just go into the game and read the missions briefings.

If you need additional detail - this chat got a pinned message with a document that details most of the lore relevant findings so far.

[raw terrace]

usually all the rundowns kinda amount to somethin, but that somethin is usually just very very clear on two, R5 and R7

the arc from r1 to r3, r4 and r6 are kinda fluff arcs where we do cool stuff but it doesn't amount to a lot inside the general story

[solemn kraken]

R1-R3: gain acces, take, revive and plug in baby.

R4- R5: gain acces to KDS Deep

R6: get genome data

R7: create new unit with new baby and stronger hormones

R7 Schaeffer arc: trojan the warden

there ya go

[lost drum]

r8e1 will be

Also, they can make even A levels challenging

I think since they dropped Extended, the levels will be 13.

A1 A2 A3
B1 B2 B3 B4
C1 C2 C3
D1 D2
E1

In our dreams:

A1
B1 B2
C1 C2 C3
D1 D2 D3 D4
E1 E2
F1

[clear furnace]

I fucking hope bro

[plush nest]

An f tier level would be nice

[burnt wren]

Would it? Would it?

[blissful kraken]

even 2 E tiers

[lilac island]

i want

i NEED.

I require

higher depths

[fresh gyro]

a z tier :D

[lilac island]

there was fighting 4 kilometers down in a certain log

[cunning light]

Imagine the scrolling down...

[fresh gyro]

nooo

[lilac island]

and we don't even go halfway there

[fresh gyro]

just shrink text size

:D

[solemn kraken]

finish an E first

[lilac island]

no

[fresh gyro]

lmao

[lilac island]

why do we only fight up to 1500ish meters

the logs say this shit goes deep

we are being gatekeeped

[fresh gyro]

cause of you

[lilac island]

im so much of a pleb that the devs decided not to include f tiers

[solemn kraken]

1500 m is where the nest/inner/ship is no?

so that's why

[lilac island]

all i know is that in a certain log that i will not be able to find

there was a firefight with sleepers 4000 meters down in a cave

[fresh gyro]

m

[solemn kraken]

4000 or 400??

[lilac island]

pretty sure was 4000

allow me to attempt to find it

[solemn kraken]

there ya go

[lilac island]

typo

[solemn kraken]

Tsssss

[lilac island]

i meant 4km

[solemn kraken]

find the log

[lilac island]

yessir

TOLD YOU

alt r4d2 depth 4020m

EYY-GBB-18P

what: Attack on team when exploring new area. All dead.
when: incident occurred June 12, expedition will now be in September (exact date TBD)
where: Intrepid Chamber, Shaft 17b 4020m

let me go down there

[cunning light]

That is... Deep

R8E1 : "Deepest" ?

[lilac island]

im 14 (hundred meters below sea level) and this is deep

[lilac island]

f1

and yes pls thanks

[cunning light]

I would rather get an E-tier with Secondary (or even better, an Overload) than a F-tier level with only Main

[lilac island]

true ig

by the way who the hell is gallus in that log

[solemn kraken]

Nice

[cunning light]

Hammerstein ?

[solemn kraken]

But what depth was the ship then?

[lilac island]

idunno

[cunning light]

You need to review your Lore !

[lilac island]

!

what name does the ship have so i can control f all the logs

in the logs

that's how i found this i just ctrl f'd "40" on all the pages

rundown 8 could be like stacked below r7

and it's just a further descent downwards past e1

[cunning light]

I just love how condescending and self-indulged Gallus Hammerstein is

[solemn kraken]

Ship/inner/nest

[lilac island]

well i found one log that talks about it but the location is redacted

r6d2 NNT-453Y

seems to be universally called "the inner"

alt r1b1 834-786-872

yeah.

i checked every log that mentioned the inner, none specify depth

could just be 4 kilometers down

since we know they were exploring that area with gallus, that's what he was doing

this game is secretly a critique of nuclear power

because nuclear waste needs to be dug into the earth and curious humans will go back down there

3000 iq play by the devs

[cunning light]

You can also search for the "Fossil", or simply "Project Insight" :)

Have fun

[eternal talon]

i assume you mean the warden, and no. he never tells us he killed people, but he easily killed hundreds if not thousands during the lockdown.

**D017
Oh jesus christ oh what the hell is that please come and get me please I am begging you

RESPONSE COORDINATOR
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D017
Oh no please you fucking assholes

RESPONSE COORDINATOR
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D017
[inaudible]

RESPONSE COORDINATOR
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D017
[inaudible]

../BIOCOM
personnel files updated
alert system flagged**

[eternal talon]

yes, and very.

[eternal talon]

ogr6.

oh, why. because 10cc felt like it

[eternal talon]

steins;gate did it well, and its the same style of worldlines as gtfo

[burnt wren]

Dankula disagrees, but he's entitled to his opinion

[eternal talon]

that actually sounds kinda fun imo... i might make that.

[fresh gyro]

Triple find glp PE :D

It's just boring

[eternal talon]

ogr1: nothing mutch, gaiging how skilled we are.
ogr2: collect the baby
ogr3: proccess the baby for information
ogr4: nothing mutch, handiwork.
ogr5: WE'RE GOING TO KDS-DEEP LADS
ogr6: WE'RE GOING TO DESTINATION LADS
ogr7: making a new neonate to replace the one schaeffer killed at the end of r6, schaeffer finally takes down the warden but the warden merges timelines to press the undo key
alt//r1: ???
alt//r2: ???
alt//r3: ???
alt//r4: ???
alt//r5 : ???
alt//r6: alt//schaeffer teams up with the warden to take us to a new worldline free of the virus. OG schaeffer almost certainly wont like when he finds out.

[wary portal]

whats wrong with warden

[lilac island]

i like that alt r5 is aggressive ??

[eternal talon]

thats how far down garganta goes. the inner is much deeper iirc.

[eternal talon]

^ deep down below the facility, into the pits of hell. endless mineshafts connecting alien ruins of their ship

the ship is huge. Sector analysis complete. The mass extends 2,215 (+/- 372m) meters from apex to nadir. Width estimate is 1,247 meters (+/- 208m).

it the top is probably around ~2000, depending on how much you think garganta couldn've gotten to excavate it before the facility was overrun

[lilac island]

r8 is gonna be on the ship

lesgo

[fresh gyro]

Lmao

[eternal talon]

don't ascribe human emotions, morals, or objectives to something alien. we don't know what it's goals are. everything its said to schaeffer could easily be a trick to get rid of him. I mean honestly, the virus has already killed almost all of the planet. if you want humans gone so bad, why not just wait and let the virus do it so you can have your "pure" worldline, why waste resources transporting them elsewhere if infected human sleepers are fine?

[eternal talon]

sadly we dont know this for certain. I FUCKIN' HOPE SO THO

[lilac island]

would be a very unique way to end it

the intro would need to be overhauled though

[burnt wren]

Just have the crane fucking break

A one way ticket

[lilac island]

ok and

what about the other ones

where does it end

how do they start

there's probably nowhere safe down there

[crisp citrus]

Don't we do the same things in alt 1-5 that we do in og 1-5

[burnt wren]

Fairly certain we do

Which is a whole other can of worms... Why are we doing all of this AGAIN exactly?

[crisp citrus]

Well the old worldline has the conduit then it got shot

New timeline we make a conduit and Schaeffer doesn't shoot it

Why we had to do it again? Because the alt prisoner squad is trash. That's why.

They literally mf died

Garbage alt version of the main 4 literally died in a mission

[fresh gyro]

Lmao

[crisp citrus]

We were brought over from the og line to do things right and fix their mess

Our track record on the og line is no failures

[eternal talon]

Complete everything first try PE -- twice.

[harsh pike]

might not've been PE

IIRC no PE objective is required canonically by the story

[past matrix]

with it being confirmed they're pretty far into r8 dev

(since they're working on the trailer already)

do we have any indication they are going to do lore teasers like they've done previous rundowns

like on santonian for example

[harsh pike]

watch the trailer be for r7 ext

after all this time

[lilac island]

Next trailer could just be an accolades trailer or somethin

Don't know why they would ask for footage from the community if it was a trailer for new content

[raw terrace]

wdym
like
why not

new content plus maybs seein ur name on it would b funk

[eternal talon]

They haven't all last year used it once

[edgy hearth]

Man the r8 hype is real
I wanna see whats in the deep but don't think we actually will

Prob will remain in the main facility region

[burnt wren]

It will be the biggest blueball if they do that.

And they will never be forgiven.

[willow geyser]

[cold sphinx]

Feddy Fazbear

[lilac island]

fedy faber

[eternal talon]

Fbr

[lilac island]

fedy

[eternal talon]

Do we know when that r8 trailer is coming out?

The one mentioned in #game-announcements

what about a trailer for the trailer

[lilac island]

well i don't think it's coming out anytime soon

we recently got alt r6

[eternal talon]

Well I mean I guess, but calle did make a post about it

That primarily is what gives me reason to believe it's coming sooner rather than later

[solar nova]

The classic "new rundown in only a few months" cope.

It will probably not come till March.

[normal abyss]

hackett has brown eyes, just found out

working on getting information on the others could have something to do with genenetic lore or something

[hot burrow]

He used to have green during EA

[queen gazelle]

must be an alt universe when hackett was more of a hunk

[dense saffron]

I've seen some %expedition%'s in my friends list over the last month so levels are being tested

My guess is they'd release it on the anniversary of 1.0 release, so dec 9th

[solar nova]

I guess it depends on how much groundwork has been done during the past year.

Damn, just realized all alts within 12 months.

[polar crater]

is the game in order like lore wise ? r1 being the first mission chronologically

[solar nova]

It's technically R1-R7 -> dimension switch -> AltR1-AltR6

[burnt wren]

The mission / objectives are, but the lore itself is currently too complicated for that.
Rayalot's assessment is probably the most accurate one for true "chronological" experience, but i don't think it matters at the moment until we have R8 context (if there will be any).

[polar crater]

ohhh tyty

[crisp citrus]

r1-r7
alt r1-alt r6 --> r8

you can no longer play r1-r6

so technically first mission is r7 then alt r1-r6

[lilac island]

You don't think r8 will happen?

[lilac island]

context lore-wise

[prisma surge]

i mean.. the devs literally put r8 in their roadmap?

[harsh saffron]

Hm, now that we know about the "Collectors" this makes sense ^^
(Never looked at it this closely since Alt R1)

[coral gorge]

OH

that does infact make sense now

[harsh pike]

what is the processor?

I assumed that was just the CORTEX processor

if that is related to them, wtf is it's purpose

[lilac island]

i always interpreted that as "clicker"

i know it doesnt make sense

[burnt wren]

Huh... Would you look at that.

I don't think i would ever think that's a "COLLECTOR"

It just doesn't make sense without context

Wait... I just thought of something.

They are collectors. They collect things, for the sake of collecting: artifacts, specimens, any and all.
In dialogue with Schaeffer they said something among the lines of "All in this membrane is impure. Virus is the primary life force."

I don't think they're here for the Virus. Or for Sleepers for that matter. They're here after literally anything else, but Virus keeps screwing them over. So they tried to extract (collect, if you will) what little remains of humanity, but now they're getting screwed over by OG Schaeffer who keeps puttings dents in their plans and (presumably) dooming humanity for good.

[coral gorge]

yeah they wanna make a fuckin zoo

and put humans in it as well

[burnt wren]

I don't think its a jungle that awaits us on the other side of the jump. More like a... glass jar.

[loud urchin]

An alien space menagerie, what an original idea...

[harsh pike]

as long as it's not a mason jar.

[lilac island]

why do female sleepers move their hips around in a circular motion when they're crawling around

[burnt wren]

"also, I guess the unit didn't specify (probably because we aren't) but how tf are -we- going to the other membrane? our characters outfits are coated in it, at the very least"

So regarding to that - i assume its what Matter Wave Projector does.

We never were just teleporting. We are dimension jumping.

So we'll just do that again.

But yes, the problem of contaminated gear remains.

[eternal talon]

to be fair, destination is 3,000 light years away. we are teleporting with the mwp

[lilac island]

we're not going there

[eternal talon]

its moving both dimention-ally and across space

which is... a strange combo.

[eternal talon]

not going where?

destination? we have been, all the time, since ogr6

[lilac island]

the infected people aren't going to the new membrane

we leaving em

[eternal talon]

we are leaving us behind?

[burnt wren]

He's trying to solve the issue of getting away without bringing NAM-boy with us

[eternal talon]

we are all infected

[lilac island]

aint no way they wont

not all of humanity is

3.7% something is ok

[loud urchin]

There will be some way to decontaminate, surely

[burnt wren]

I'm fairly certain some of the HSUs are confirmed to have uncontaminated individuals

[eternal talon]

i mean us KSOs, and, how do you expect us to go get the random uninfected people in say, iceland?

[lilac island]

idk

[harsh pike]

that's the collectors problem

[lilac island]

collectors will figure it out

but infected people just straight up cant go

that would be insanely stupid

[eternal talon]

as in, our squad, schaeffer, and everybody else down here

[lilac island]

there's no way you'd risk this

yes

you cannot risk another universe

[eternal talon]

(because despite the implied plot holes, there is no way he isn't.)

[cunning light]

Who do you send then ?

[lilac island]

state of truth am

and others in bunkers

[cunning light]

Last we heard of him, he did not sound very sane at all

[lilac island]

3% of the world is not infected

doesn't matter

[burnt wren]

I don't think collectors have access to that

I think that's why KDS Deep is Warden's target.

KSO influx is one thing.

But there are also uncontaminated individuals stored there. I think Collectors want them, specifically.

Spray HSUs with highly dense sanitiser spray and then just drop them into the warphole

[cunning light]

[lilac island]

could work

wasn't; ther a t hing that said namv resists decontamination

idk

help ._.

[eternal talon]

thats what the datamined tiles suggest, but we aren't even sure that will work. they kept contanimated people in HSUs, class "f" infected

[lilac island]

datamined tiles?

[burnt wren]

Come again?

[eternal talon]

not going to post here. can DM you if you'd like

[burnt wren]

Uh, don't.

I'd rather to see for myself.

But good to know i'm on the right track.

[eternal talon]

months ago. they've been working on r8 stuff since like r7

just keeping it hidden in the code

[burnt wren]

As usual

[lilac island]

what ther hell are datamined tiles and why can't you post it here

[burnt wren]

He's saying he found new tileset / biome in the game files

[lilac island]

what is a tileset

[eternal talon]

1. because its not released content
2. i'm not even sure if datamining is allowed

[burnt wren]

Labs, storage, gardens. The level type / aesthetic.

[eternal talon]

*she, and no i didn't. they are posted on the unofficial modding server

[lilac island]

a

[burnt wren]

Dammit, i keep forgetting

[eternal talon]

basically the individual rooms that make up each and every "zone" in an expedition

[lilac island]

aaah

ok

dont send me them

i'll see em when i get there

we'll get our answers anyway

[cunning light]

It is not.

[lilac island]

quick post datamined information through new accounts

[eternal talon]

see? pretty sure it wasn't, but wasn't really feeling like risking it

[lilac island]

you can't silence the truth

THIS IS STATE OF TRUTH AM

[eternal talon]

it ain't even truth yet lol

[lilac island]

THE ESTABLISHMENT OF 10C IS LYING TO YOU

DO NOT TRUST THEM

[chilly smelt]

Literally 1984

[eternal talon]

they are unfinished, even with what is in there. if you care so bad just go over to that server and have a look through

for all we know they could just not be included in r8 in the end, like the countless other things they have abandoned in the code.
see: deployable cover, anti-player sentries, grenades, custom melee weapon heads, etc

[cunning light]

I would strongly encourage you not to though, because getting just pieces of an incomplete puzzle (even more incomplete than the ones in the current game) would not bring you peace

Just more questions

Some of these elements might make it into the game, some might get pruned or replaced

[eternal talon]

^ they completely remade and removed a ton of files ~alt launched.

[cunning light]

Like peeking under a magician cloak