gtfo-lore

[stone vine]

i assume

or at the end

[white moth]

wiat what is the alt lore?

[stone vine]

dunno yet

very vague

[white moth]

im confused

[stone vine]

just know its probs gotta do with matterwave stuff and destination

ok so basically

alt r1

isnt r1

its r1 but diff universe

[white moth]

what got rereleased r1?

sorry im slow

[stone vine]

ur question confusing me

so yk how theyre releasing old rundowns

[white moth]

yeah?

[stone vine]

with alt before the names

those arent the same levels we played

in rundown 1

these are different levels

basically an alternate version in a different universe

and what i think is

the destination tp thingy with the uh matter wave projecter

works off of 3 datacubes as i was toldf

and each holds a coordinate

like longitude latitude and then like some space coordinate that has more to do with time travel

kinda shit

and i think that alt is our universe with a diff coordinate

what i think is that

we failed something in r8 or schaeffer fucked something up in r7

and warden discovers the location of an alternate universe that basically holds the stuff we need

but due to time travel stuff i think alt somehow happens prior to r8

so we can change an outcome

[white moth]

do we know what changed in Alt R1 vs R1

[stone vine]

and we already know that the same people are in alt r1

which is why im pretty sure they used a teleporter

[white moth]

are we sure its just not that R1 got rereleased?

[stone vine]

because schaeffer knows a lot more info and shows up right off the bat

[stone vine]

for instance

schaeffers in it

from r1a1

we dont see him but we can hear him

he clangs on the pipes

and the levels are different

not only that

the warden bot showed canon signs of it being a diff complex

[white moth]

the first time we get a messege from him is R4

[stone vine]

it sent a message here in pins

[white moth]

but then hes in logs in R1

damn

[stone vine]

exactly

we see him in r1

instead of r4

which means alt is completely different

the only thing that remains the same is the environment

[white moth]

how so

[stone vine]

D-Lock Block: unauthorized access... logging

WRDN: override

ACCESS -BIOCOM -29$525GVTHR2%456FS

Instantiating BIOCOM.net(CLI)...

ready:

authorized…

connecting...

\Root?

\Root\RETURN query “Alt” -root -lang -all -dict

Queries found (2)…

Alternate (noun, abbreviation)
A substitute designated to take the place of another.
A replacement of equal or greater value.

Alteration (noun, abbreviation)
A modification or adjustment of something, usually to improve suitability for a particular task or experience.

^

def not the same place

[white moth]

bet

[stone vine]

theyre going to have to change rundown names

i assume

because contact no longer has significance

and the reason i think that schaeffer is so urgent in r1

alt r1

i should say

and says escape in d1

is because something did go very wrong

i assume that something related to schaeffer definitely happened in our regular timeline

its all pretty confusing without r8 or other rundowns being out

[white moth]

do we know there were new audio logs added to Alt R1 that have banging?

[stone vine]

the pipe banging?

its not in logs

listen to ambience

all of r1 is one tile, its the refinery

refinery is not supposed to have the banging noise

only lab and datacenter tiles

[white moth]

i mean tbf I played R3 with friends and they still recall the pipe banging then

[stone vine]

aka the tiles we get introd to schaeffer with

[stone vine]

its def not the same

because in d1 its a set event thing

aswell

[real pewter]

ALT R1 has the alien log

[white moth]

did it have it in R1?

[stone vine]

omg

is that legendary dmr user

[real pewter]

#gtfo-lore message

[stone vine]

anyways

yes

pipes are an ambient noise

but these r specifically sm different

i even checked by going onto yt and listeneing to 1 hr ambience vids :(

i got freaked out by the noise bc i was like what thats not supposed to be here

and then the morse code in d1 basically confirmed it

[white moth]

altr1d1?

[stone vine]

yes

theres reg pipes

and then schaeffer pipes

[white moth]

did it have the alien log before the Alt Version?

[stone vine]

no sir

no logs in e1

r1

**

other than the

[carmine tendon]

They're never was a log in r1

[white moth]

so this got added?

[stone vine]

auto gen status

this is all new

alt is for lore purposes

[white moth]

whats the alien log called?

[stone vine]

idk if its on wiki

i dont have it

its in b2 right?

i think

u can probs use the search tab

[harsh saffron]

3NY-798-65Y
yup b2

[stone vine]

^ coolio

[white moth]

yeah i understand its for lore purposes but the problem is there is no way to prove this wasnt just added for lore purposes the problem is i see no corelation between alt being a new universe other than the bot

[stone vine]

alt is basically a continuation of the current lore into old rundowns

[white moth]

but i really think this theory has tracktion

[stone vine]

but its not actually old rundowns

those have diff lore significance

[stone vine]

its not

i mean is

because schaeffer

schaeffer is 100% proof

how did schaeffer go back in time and contact us before contact was a thing?

makes no sense

its a direct continuation of where the lore leaves off in either r7 or r8

meaning its not actually the old rundowns

we havent even been introduced to the hearsay systems

in r1

[white moth]

does anyone have the old ambient noise from R1 and the new noise from Alt R1

[stone vine]

uhm i could probs watch a vid

but i have clips

[white moth]

i really think this theory has traction but i just want proof

may i see

[stone vine]

yessir

yes

im getting the clip

[white moth]

oki

[stone vine]

https://medal.tv/games/gtfo/clips/FBHCzxMjP9Day/d1337ASHFaGm?invite=cr-MSx6OU4sNDE0NzAyMzMs

where i get kinda spooked

and then if u listen to the morse code

in d1

in the room before reactor

its the exact same metal clang

i only thought it happened in d1

but it doesnt

as ive played ive heard the noise in all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIkO3ZoSMBU&t=798s

now take a listen to regular gtfo ambience that isnt in a lab or datacenter tile

... no clanging

[white moth]

im hopin on D1 right now to listen

[stone vine]

im unsure how frequently the noise plays

i only noticed going into the side rooms

idk if its event triggered or not

or if its genuinly just ambience theyve added in for a teehee schaeffers here

[white moth]

okay well im hopin on rn to test the theroy

the game theroy

[stone vine]

i have like 9 clips

of the noise in d1

but im too lazy to upload

thing is if this noise was normal it would not have made my heart literally force itself out of my chest and through my window

i was so scared when i heard it LMAO

r3c1 all over again

also i watched old r1d1 vids and did not hear the noise

[real pewter]

old r1d1 don't have lore

[stone vine]

...

im aware thats my point

that the clanging is schaeffer clanging

thats why its not a regular ambience noise

and was not one until r4 (or r3 a bit unsure)

if that was regular refinery ambience it would be in r1

and the fact as you play d1 the noise is more excessive than other levels and theres morse code with the exact same sound of pipe clanging at the end?

idek know if its schaeffer pipe clanging but it has to do w him and thats what i assume it is

im also looking through r3 lab vids atm to double check its not in r3 i think it may be in those lab tiles

again im not like 100% confirming anything i just know thats not a regular refinery noise

ok so theres 2 noises

one sounds like a drawn out creak and the other sounds like a pipe clang

i think the drawn out creak is regular amvience

while the pipe clang is not

it would suck if im getting really unlucky looking through these vids but LMAO

rn holding strong

gonna go look at r4b2 ;P

i mean

b1

another possibility is that the noise existed in r3 but then got basically sucked into schaeffer lore through his morse code pipe clangy stuff in r4b1

like i said before tho, not a refinery noise

yes ok i checked its a different noise

anyways im done rambling

this was probs v confusing and unhelpful

thats what i do best ahaaaa

[white moth]

yeah i just wanna make sure that before i make a video saying its proven somewhat then all of my lore be not real

[stone vine]

^ :P

tbh

i wouldnt be too scared to be wrong just pin stuff as speculation

like what im saying rn isnt confirmed

its speculation

[white moth]

checking the thing in D1 when entering the reactor rn

[stone vine]

theres no 100% facts what im saying is actually true its just what i observe

also schaeffer ig did exist technically in r3

but there were no actual like

"signs" of him because we had no idea he existed

i doubt the devs would go so into story they introduced pipe clanging in r3 just for schaeffer LMAO

but i do think they use it for his morse code stuff

[stone vine]

r u botting alt d1 rn LMAO

[white moth]

yes lmoa

[stone vine]

gosh

dedication

i couldnt even get past the drop before i was just like nah and went to youtube

tbh

i want to make a gtfo biology vid but its like 1 am and i have to start a huge annotated bibliography tmr

ehhhhh

ill do it next week

👍

bedtime

[eternal talon]

Yes

No. Only nam-v got to the surface. The parasite is required to create sleepers. Everyone on the surface is just dead.

Yes

No. We are being teleported to Destination, a planet in the butterfly nebula thousands of light years away in a different plain of existence

It is a different world-line separate from ours by its quantum frequency. Even something as fundamental as time works differently there. In that world-line, time is 85x faster than ours.

Bishop left with durants' team for about a week and a half. But to him, he was gone for two years.

I highly recommend reading the "for dummies" document in the pins. I keep it as up to date as possible with all relevant pre-apocalypse information

[eternal talon]

Yes. Given some of the new alt//r1 logs, specifically the one with bishop's mask, it would seem alt//r1 is another different world-line that we are somehow experiencing

[eternal talon]

There is an audio log with allens that nobody has managed to decipher, there is some Morse code, there is the bishop mask log, and a couple others.

Many things seem to be very different here.

[eternal talon]

No. The allens didn't 'exist' in the story until r6.

Originally r1 had zero? One? logs.

Something like that.

[eternal talon]

We've gone to alternate world-line earths before. Most notably in r6d4 where it was an entire mechanic in the level.

[past matrix]

zero

[past matrix]

r4

[stone vine]

thankyou

[past matrix]

it was r4b1? The one with the generators

[stone vine]

yes i looked back

[past matrix]

imagine not remembering one of the best expeditions ever made

[stone vine]

the shuttering noise existed in r3 and sounds similar

but isn’t pipe clanging

i hate r4

[past matrix]

r4 had some expeditions that fucked

r4d2 for example

[stone vine]

wait

the alien log hasn’t been decoded yet

?

can someone send it here

is it audio or text

i’ll take a crack at it tonight

[past matrix]

audio

[stone vine]

ok what’s it sound like

[past matrix]

like a bunch of noises

[stone vine]

is it on the wiki yet?

ik what might help

if y’all watch fnaf lore

LMAO

ppl decode random noises all the time on fnaf lore reddit

[past matrix]

im pretty sure rayalot was the first to post about it in here, so if you look up their messages in this channel and specify links it should show up

[stone vine]

okay

is it a king or short audio

long/8

omg my hands. r old

cold

just so ik

[eternal talon]

oddly enough.. sort of like whales, down in the deep sea.

[stone vine]

yeah that’s what i suspect it would sound like

i was gonna say sounds super familiar to how fnaf uses ocean like whale ish noises

like in sister location

[stone vine]

well i’d say either

try and look through game audio

to see if the frequency matches anything we’ve already seen

[eternal talon]

you can get to it solo easily.

[stone vine]

no i mean

for other noises

not for the uh log

[eternal talon]

for analysis, yeah

[stone vine]

i can go get the log myself yeah

but basically

i wonder if it’s not even like

words

[eternal talon]

^

gravy might be able to help you get it

[stone vine]

it totally could be but like i find it funky no one’s figured it yet

maybe super crazy filters they put on something

oh wow

is it a photo

that’s actually even crazier

[celest pagoda]

ill post the audio, am doing some work currently. Use the program "Sonic visualizer" for the spectrogram, its your best bet thats free

[stone vine]

thankyou

i’ll take a look when i have some time

[eternal talon]

allens

[stone vine]

so it could either be something in the audio that connects to something else, a picture, or like actual words in the audio or both

hmmm

i’ll go eat all the audio files

i need to hear the whale noises first tho

[eternal talon]

nomnomnom

[stone vine]

yes tasty

[eternal talon]

2nd zone of b2.

[stone vine]

thankyou

i will go consume

[eternal talon]

waaay in the corner next the the security door

[past matrix]

what if, and hear me out

[stone vine]

sucks wiki has no alt info

[eternal talon]

like, waay in the corner

[stone vine]

oh no

what is this take i’m abt to hear

[past matrix]

when alt r2 comes out in 5 months, there'll be another distorted audio log and people will have to combine it together

[eternal talon]

like, your gonna be looking for it for 10 minutes way in the corner

[stone vine]

wow

that’s actually smart

thanks warden

[past matrix]

im always smart

[stone vine]

that’s the general consensus i think is that alt is basically a puzzle

[eternal talon]

its like camouflaged

[stone vine]

i think r8 already happened tbh

but yeah we need way more time travel info

[past matrix]

i mean we're on r10 rn

[eternal talon]

with infinite world-lines, r8 has been done infinite times by now.

[stone vine]

you have a point

[stone vine]

warden

i didn’t ask

[past matrix]

bish

[celest pagoda]

heres the audio file, no background noise, the one ripped from the game files

[past matrix]

i fucked your mom and dad

[stone vine]

wow

rude

that’s very mean

i’m hurt

[past matrix]

cope

[stone vine]

ouch

the fucking noise at the end hurt

i had my vol up

it odly enough sounds like something floating to me

like maybe an ambient squidward

aka kraken

[eternal talon]

squidward has his own sound files.

you could hear them in r6c1 and r6d1

[stone vine]

yes ik

i’m saying it sounds kind of like something big milling about

kraken is the best way to describe it

[eternal talon]

it reminds me of the blip

[stone vine]

yeah exactly

that kind of stuff

is what it reminds me of

but the thing is that means it probs is some dumb alien language

or some frequency

we have to look at

i’ll go off of what gravy has done so far n stuff

sounds like we’re def on the right track

is the log actually called alien log or is just a

community name

also that means that destination aliens can communicate with our technology correct?

that or this is something we picked up?

[eternal talon]

its not called that to my knowledge.

[stone vine]

ok because it’s gonna be silly if it’s not an alien LOL

nasa rocket

probs is but tbh it sounds like a rocket

nyoooom

[remote fractal]

it seems to me after reading the lore online we have a similar case with this game to the Dead Space story, humanity mines on plant/area, finds sketchy thing, experiments with said sketchy thing and then sketchy thing proceeds to either kill everyone or turn into various mutations. dead space it was the marker.

[pearl trench]

It's a common plot with sci-fi horror

I like that gtfo combined it with the classic dwarf "dug too deep" trope

[remote fractal]

in the words of Dr. Ian Malcolm, yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if the should

[white moth]

is this log new to Alt R1?

[eternal talon]

R1 had no logs, so yes.

[stone vine]

no i saw it in r9e4

[stone vine]

i just realized i was right since r3

this makes me feel better abt my over the top r3 sleeper lore analysis

i still stand by the fact none of my r3 theories have yet been disproven

;)

thats mainly bc theyre all super insane and funky tho

[stone vine]

we know why were not infected 100% now its the hsu system but we basically speculated this since r1

whats coolio abt that tho is how long does it take for the virus to affect people who do not go back into hsu

unsure if schaeffer has been using hsus but i assume so as he isnt infected as we know of

iirc he did use one in a mission or something

[past matrix]

chimp theory clears

[crystal sonnet]

Game reminds me of the evolution movie, alien swarm and dead space

[stone vine]

LMAO

i miss chimp and shrimp theory fr

[eternal talon]

chad theory is true.

[viscid dew]

i was sitting on the wiki and found out about santonian industries website and was just browsing thru the logs. do different archives stand for different rundowns? im new to the game so i cant really access any rundown but 1st and 7th so im thinking that i shouldnt read\listen thru the logs of the rundowns i havent completed yet?

[eternal talon]

if you want to get into the lore, i highly reccomend reading the "for dummies" doc in the pins

for pre-apocalypse lore, and for post apocalypse, the "summary of expeditions"

to answer your question, yes. archive001 is all r1 logs, archive002 is all r2 logs, etc

though for whatever reason the smc website doesnt contain everything

there are other archives on the notion.so and the wiki.

[viscid dew]

ok, will do!

[eternal talon]

if you have any questions i am always here.

[viscid dew]

the first archive doesnt have any logs at all there:(

before i start reading the beginner thing:
i do want to get into the lore, coz, well, i like lore and stuff, but i think that i shouldnt check the wiki for anything i will find in the game itself. sorta "find it urself" mentality. that is why im wondering if i even should read thru the website

[eternal talon]

well some of the things you can NOT find in game

some of the logs we have gotten in emails, some is the santonian website exclusive, some of it is coded in ciphers that take weeks to crack.

this game is very good at making it a pain in the ass to read/understand the lore.

[viscid dew]

that's what we nerds love to hear haha

[eternal talon]

which is why our community documents and archives are so important.

https://www.notion.so/Timeline-0e93a62e8cfd44b3a36beb4ab245a2d0
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Logs
here are a couple of the archives. previously the notion.so was more up to date, but to my knowledge the wiki has become the more up-to-date one.

[toxic flower]

average fnaf lore explainer

[white moth]

so matpat

[white moth]

i wnana get peoples opinion on this theory #gameplays message

[white moth]

@finite vine who says that whatever happens in R8 didnt cause the warden to go back into time with the prisoners to get a fresh start to stop the inevitable. and yes that lore expalnation is correct and thats what im basing my theory off of

[finite vine]

yea thats possible i guess

we just dont know how the matter wave projector works in terms controlling where it goes, and what time it goes to

[white moth]

excatly

but we dont know it CANT do those things

thats why its a theory

its a possiblilitie

never disproven and never proven

only time will tell

[finite vine]

also, how would The Warden control the group of prisoners it sent to the ALT R1 dimension while it is still in the original dimension?

[white moth]

?

[finite vine]

how would the prisoners that were sent to the ALT R1 dimension get inside HSU's?

[white moth]

the warden got them back after whatever catastrophie events

[finite vine]

would there also be a duplicate of the prisoners that were sent?

[white moth]

and put them in the HSU

then used an unknown artifact to teleport them

there isnt much proof disproving this but there isnt much proving it

as it is a theory

but i do see what you mean

we can only wait to see if this is true or your's is true

[finite vine]

so your saying that potentially at the end of R8, The Warden from the original dimension, sends our group of 4 prisoners to an alternate dimension (ALT R1) so we have a "fresh starts" of sorts.

Only problem is, how the hell would The Warden from the original dimension (R8) communicate with the prisoners it sent to the alternate dimension (ALT R1)?

Actually I just realized the answer to my question while I was writing it, The Warden already communicates with us while we are on our missions to Destination Alpha, so I don't see why it would be any different.

[white moth]

i said he reversed the timeline

[finite vine]

I just see it as being unlikely because it is complicated and has a lot of holes

[finite vine]

? reversed the timeline?

[white moth]

yeah fair but atleast its something

[eternal talon]

I'd say it's just as plausible as any other explanation at current. And I say that almost entirely because of the two bishops in the alt//r1 world-line.

That log.. very interesting.

[eternal talon]

Ah, and that reminds me, it wouldn't be timeline. What GTFO has with the MWP are World-Lines. Basically parallel strings of reality with infinite different variations.

Destination's world line for example, time fundamentally is faster there. Just flat out. 85x faster.

We have also visited alternate world-line earths in r6d4 for example, where one of the ones we are translated to with the corrupted data cubes is almost entirely taken over with infection fog.

Timelines would imply that it is still the same universe, but it fundamentally isn't anymore

What the Allens had developed is some serious out of this world technology

[white moth]

that is the best way of explaning it i didnt think of that

[eternal talon]

Being able to traverse theoretically any universe they could possibly desire, where the fundamental laws are different

[eternal talon]

It was covered quite a lot when we got the first two major stokes lab report logs.

If you aren't fully caught up with the lore at current, I would recommend reading the "for dummies" document in the pins to catch yourself up

We've got all kinds of things with ancient allens and world-bending technology nowadays

Gtfo lore surely has gone off the rails.

And it is quite interesting indeed.

One of the best examples I've heard of how exactly the "quantum frequency" difference works was explained to me by Beanz.

Basically, it's like a valkyrie singing at the perfect frequency to shatter glass

The difference between all of the infinite world-lines is the frequency that everything in them resonates at

The MWP, somehow, both teleports us to a location that exists in both world-lines (why we have exact coordinates for destination in our own universe in the butterfly nebula) and changes our matter to the specific frequency to... enmesh, ourselves with that different plain.

Which.. makes quite a lot of sense given the MWP requires exactly 3 data-cubes to function, as seen on its world-model in-game. One for the location in three dimensional space, one for the frequency, and if possible, perhaps time.

Though I'm hesitant to say time.

Because from what we have seen, we have never actually gone back in time.

Just to different world-lines where certain events were slower to progress so by comparison, they are before.

But as we return to our own world-line, time is as normal. It doesn't carry over. It is specific to that one universe.

Yeah... this world-line stuff really really is a pain in the ass.

As I'm sure you can quite tell.

[white moth]

yeah i love the lore

i gotta get caught up with R7 i did everything up to R6

[eternal talon]

So in the case of alt//r1, I wouldn't say it's traversing time, it's more so like an airplane engine stalling.

Whatever smc, Kovac, or Dreyfus was doing in the alt//r1 world line, it was just slower than our own

So everything and by extension r1, happened later

Coincidentally at the same time as our own r7 given we are able to traverse between the two.

What would be the nail for this is if alt//r2 when released, is it's own new universe aswell

That would cement this theory.

[eternal talon]

Then I do recommend the for dummies doc. We learned a LOT more about the ancient allens in r6 extended and r7.

Hell, we even now have an as of yet undeciphered allen audio log that was found in altr1b2

[white moth]

i was messing around in audacity to try and find something and i oculdnt

[white moth]

i dont mean to spam but i found a bunch of research logs on R9D2

sorry mods i dont mean to spam

i just was posting these

[solar nova]

@white moth These generate in any lab tile, and are sourced from a bit of code that sets their parameters.

[white moth]

oh

i found them i didnt know if knew they were here

[stone vine]

yeah those have been in game since r3 and 4

datacenter and lab both research terminals

datacenter specifically does the lockdown log scanning and research

they’re just samples of plants n stuff like that

[white moth]

im finding out so much shit about this virus going between logs and stuff its quite cool

[harsh saffron]

I think it sounds pretty plausible. I personally don't think it's Schaeffer telling us to escape in R1D1 but that's just a feeling.
Also welcome back, nice to have you here again

[eternal talon]

in order to explain the possible ways alt//r1 works, i made paint images

these are all the possibilities

one of these is what is happening in GTFO. right now to me, it would seem option D is the most likely.

[past flume]

Please don't get me started on shit to do with time. I don't want to start getting invested into the lore.

[eternal talon]

just read the 'for dummies' in the pins. it covers the basics...

in about 6 paragraphs.

[past flume]

Like I said. I don't want to get into the lore of this game.

[eternal talon]

when why are you in #gtfo-lore lel

[past flume]

I look at it from time to time. Quite often it's just another general. I know a little bit about how time 'works' in our universe. I don't want to get hooked from 1 conversation.

[eternal talon]

well time doesn't really work the same in GTFO. for example, on destination, the allens' worldline, the is just 85x faster. flat out.

two years there is 1 and a half weeks on earth

(from the pov of someone on earth)

[white moth]

Thanks

[eternal talon]

i hope my graphs are helpful to you. and again, if you have any questions at all about the deeper lore i am always here.

[white moth]

It makes sense idk just everything is up in the air before the devs confirm stuff

I just finished my script on the history of the NAM-V virus and Parisitiadae Garganta

[eternal talon]

true.

[eternal talon]

interesting. i'd love to watch it.

[white moth]

BET

[white moth]

just a littel voice acting

[eternal talon]

I'd literally never be able to decipher that lel.

All numbers, how can you tell what is what?

[white moth]

becuase its all in order

i have a script

and the beginning goes from 1

then it ends with 58

[burnt wren]

Pain of creation

Watching videos is fun. Making them: not so much.

Logistics alone bore me

[white moth]

its quite fun

just i made a comment about the miner doing the no breathe challenge and i have decided to add a suicide prevention part of the video

[burnt wren]

Doesn't that feel kinda forced?

[white moth]

wdym?

actually i see what you mean

yeah

maybe i wont

idk ill probably put somethign in the desc atleast

[burnt wren]

Maybe it's just me of course, but I prefer gaming lore videos to try and stay on point.
This would be right in place in... Uh, Doki Doki Literature Club, can't come up with anything else where the topic is relevant.

To be fair GTFO lore is depressing as shit but still...

[white moth]

yeah thats fair

ill just put something in the desc i also described the suicides as "no breathing challenges"

because id rather not use that word

and get banned by susan

[burnt wren]

Fair

[white moth]

man i missed diving into the lore of this game

[stone vine]

i’m making a vid this weekend because i need more stuff to do tbh

it’s basically going to be me explaining gtfo biology with barely any biology experience and bad photos

[eternal talon]

@rocky wraith is an expert on the topic.

[stone vine]

on gtfo biology

or just biology in general

[eternal talon]

on biology in general.

[stone vine]

great

[eternal talon]

he is in his 3rd year of his degree

[rocky wraith]

mlem

[rocky wraith]

4th and final year now

[stone vine]

beanz u down if i run u my script

[rocky wraith]

loving my project

[stone vine]

when i write it

[rocky wraith]

sure

Happy to discuss

[stone vine]

thanks dawg 🙏

[rocky wraith]

[stone vine]

i’m pretty interested in like illnesses and stuff but i’m too set on aerospace to go for a biomed career

subnautica gave me too much space and ocean interest

[rocky wraith]

aerospace is such a vibe

[stone vine]

fr i’m tryna be a space engineer

i’ll shout ppl out on mars

[rocky wraith]

lmao

please don't pick up a strange sickness that causes hallucinations and spine deformations while you're there

[stone vine]

i already have scoliosis can’t be that much worse

don’t ppl in space come back shorter bro i gotta be careful

[rocky wraith]

shorter and with weaker bones and long term blood platelet depletion

or was it longer and weaker bones?

I know that high G pilots always shrink a little from extensive training.

[stone vine]

that’s a bit scary

hopefully in a decade we get better tech against that

[white moth]

We need dauda to figure out a way to make the virus 100% deadly to all thing including the sleepers then bye bye sleepers and then we find a way to kill the virus

Win win

[eternal talon]

Virus isn't that hard. It starves itself to death

It has already done that once with the mayans.

It's the parasite that is a pain in the ass to get rid of

Nam-v makes it immortal

[white moth]

@eternal talon I did it tell me what you think #gameplays message

[eternal talon]

so far, really really good, though i'm not sure about the parasite getting out of the inner to infect the mayans, as it simply would have just stayed on the surface and went global then. i also am not 100% on it being 2k miles wide, i think we talked to the devs a bit ago and it was determined it was meters, not miles and was a typo. It wasn't richtoffer and hammerstein that were the two people that didn't follow quarantine, it was two other unnamed scientists.

the creature edgar encountered wasn't a shadow, it was some unknown variant we haven't seen yet given it is described as looking like two people stitched together, and doesn't behave anything like sleepers we have encountered before.

if you'd like, i could link the edgar/teal log

https://www.notion.so/Timeline-0e93a62e8cfd44b3a36beb4ab245a2d0?p=be964f47904647b191d3ad6149a9228b&pm=s

[white moth]

the mayans thing i mean they literally described the fleas to a T and what caused them to go extinct i really think its the Parasites, the 2k miles wide thing as you said i just read it from the text, also teh richtogger and hammerstien that makes sense I guess i just read the logs wrong and the creature i read the log i guess i missed that part where it says 2 people combined

[eternal talon]

it would also seem like this creature can teleport. like the other destination variants can

[white moth]

i just read teh shadow where it materialized

and it just was like.... its a shadow

in my mibnd

[white moth]

ah

[eternal talon]

off topic, but also really interesting. this is the only example of anything allen (aside from the hammerstein collection) we have seen in-game

some kind of sanstone ruin, on the surface of destination in r6b1

[white moth]

hmm

maybe after i do my R5-R6 video i will try to do something with the ALlens

[eternal talon]

I start looking around in the dark and I see it. This creature. Just standing there, staring at me. Breathing real hard. It was… sort of human, but its head was hung low, like it broke its neck or something. Its legs were strong, muscular, but the arms were skinny and bent. It looked like two different bodies put together… and it’s looking right at me, panting.

from the edgar/teal log

[white moth]

i guess i missed that part then

i only saw the materializing part

[eternal talon]

No, it disappeared. I don’t know - just stopped chasing me.
TEALE
Did you ever find it?
E105
I’m not going back there. Send someone else down that tunnel. Fuck that.
TEALE
Is it possible it was human? Someone playing a joke on you?
E105
Are you fucking kidding me?
TEALE
I’m trying to understand what you saw--
E105
Look, that’s a closed tunnel, you understand? It’s a dead end. They haven’t finished blasting it. There’s no way to get down there other than walking right by me and Werner, and nothing, no one, walked past us. That thing was already there, in the dark. That’s what that sound was. It like… teleported or something.
TEALE
Teleported.
E105
This is a waste of my time.
TEALE
No. I’m trying to understand--

[white moth]

i shoulda looked better

[eternal talon]

its still a really good video. only a couple of points are off.

even as is i'd still say its a 6.5/10. these minor things can just be clarified on in the description, you don't need to remake the whole thing.

[white moth]

good idea actually ill add them

time for research

in R1D1, i know we go really deep is it considered the KDS Deep yet because the warden has to disable secuirty messures to let us down?

i know that the KDS Deep is near the bottom next to La Vena but do we know where it starts?

[eternal talon]

kds deep is its own specific part of the facility that is kovac exclusive. nobody but them is allowed in there.

[white moth]

ah ok

so no then im guessing

[eternal talon]

we only go there in r5e1 and the entire rundown is us trying to make it so we can get in there

the goal of r5 was getting access to it so wrdn could use the 24 thousand KSOs inside.

in terms of its depth.. i'm not sure if we know exactly how deep it is but i could look into it.

[white moth]

ok im looking into it now i dont think it goes that high enough to be in R5D1

it might be the beginning of the deep right before you enter i think but no clue

[eternal talon]

we do know that it is big though.

Santonian will allocate a further 30,000 sqm of space for KDS Deep. This is in addition to the existing area you have allocated for Legion storage and the Biocom installation.

[eternal talon]

Kovac will have exclusive administration of the area. No Santonian employees will enter the area without express permission from Kovac. Exceptions will be made for select individuals, to be outlined in the full contract. I would personally be interested in a brief tour of the new location and an informal meeting to further discuss the RISE project, but that would be as a personal favor to me and would not influence any agreement between yourselves and Santonian.

[white moth]

okay well im gonna assume that KDS Deep is at the bottom of the complex at around 1500meters

[eternal talon]

no i do not see an exact depth.

you know what, you could use r7d2 as a good reference depth

[white moth]

oh?

[eternal talon]

given in that level we go a biocom server hub

[white moth]

oh

[eternal talon]

and biocom is supposedly installed near/in kds deep

[white moth]

let me see the distance

[eternal talon]

so if not in it exactly, it should be in close enough proximity for santonian to consider it an 'extension' of their stuff they had previously housed in storage hangar #4

[white moth]

its 1366

[eternal talon]

then yeah you'd be right

just about near the bottom.

[white moth]

so im saying beteween 1300 to the bottom is around where KDS Deep is

i assumed that because KDS Deep allowed Project Insight to work on the Mass down there

and explore those tunnels

which are at the bottom bottom of the Compelx

[eternal talon]

Kovac squads spent a lot of their time near the end of the timeline fighting down near/in the inner to protect Insight expedition and santonian mining teams from sleepers.

[white moth]

yeah idk rn im focusing on R5 and R5 Extended to then lead into R6 thanks for the info i will definitly be back

[eternal talon]

https://www.notion.so/Timeline-0e93a62e8cfd44b3a36beb4ab245a2d0?p=32d89344964844da8c0d11480d59aca6&pm=s

Anyway, I didn’t understand a lot of what the nerds were talking about but I did get that they sent a probe in to inspect the chamber. They’ve got KSOs holding off Sleepers left and right but they’re keeping it held down then suddenly BOOM. I know you must have felt it. We were topside and we felt it. Honestly, I thought the walls were going to collapse and we’d all be drowned then I remembered I built them so NAH WE GOOD.

thats another thing,

[white moth]

wait

[eternal talon]

the explosion down in the inner wasn't from us.

[white moth]

didnt dr dumb hammerstien touch something

[eternal talon]

its from some kind of machine in the inner than hammestein set off by playing certain sound frequencies

[white moth]

that make stuff go kaplooe

or some researcher

[eternal talon]

not really touch something but he caused it.

[white moth]

i thought i remeber that

maybe that was the expleion

[eternal talon]

his log about wanting to test frequencies on the sleeper is literally the day before the blast.

**I will be conducting a behavioral analysis of the few living creatures we have managed to capture. They have an extreme sensitivity to aural stimulation, so I will be setting up an experiment to project a range of frequencies throughout the lower levels of Garganta to see which ones draw the most attention. Obviously, this will be a controlled experiment. We will have Security Officers there to protect the researchers as they capture as many varieties of creature as possible. In an ideal world, I would need to order more display cases!

It should be perfectly safe if everyone does as I say. Next week will be monumental for Project Insight!

Dr. Gallus Hammerstein
Project Insight Lead Researcher & Founder**

October 11-13th, 2053.

(created on 11th, modified on 13th)

[white moth]

there is also this report

**--------------------------------------------------
AUTO-GEN NETWORK STATUS REPORT 53 10 11 4:00:00 AM

<<GLOBAL SYSTEM NOTIFICATION>>
Notifying all connected nodes (99.2%)
-WARNING: TEMPERATURE ALERT
00.01A Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.01B Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.01D Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.01E Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.01H Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.02A Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.02C Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.02E Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.03B Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.03C Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.03D Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.03F Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.04A Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.04- Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.04F Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C
00.04G Main server room temperature exceeding 38.999°C**

[eternal talon]

yes.

[white moth]

which probabaly was when the blast occured

[eternal talon]

it seems it was ramping up in power for a while

as that log was on the 11th

but the blast itself happened on the 13th

according to the intercepted hearsay log with schaeffer and artus

[white moth]

and whatever it was melted everything

so maybe it was brewing in those server rooms

[eternal talon]

it sent dozens, possibly a hundred of the tunnels to the surface.

[white moth]

then went pop through the lower parts of the complex

ah

[eternal talon]

these are the same tunnels we enter the facility in

[white moth]

that makes sense

[eternal talon]

it would seem after the blast, smc repurposed them to be useable with their freight-lifts.

[white moth]

watch it be a brothernmoon from deadspace

or whatever that game was

[eternal talon]

I don’t know what it was though. Some kind of energy blast that fucked up anything in its path and left behind these molten passages. Like shit isn’t mad enough already on this job, now we got laser beams shooting at us.

[white moth]

and when they get enough bio matter, them combine and overheat and go kaplooe

[eternal talon]

laser beams.

[white moth]

hmm

could be an artifact reacting with the biomass

idk time can tell

[eternal talon]

it is certainly from the inner, not any of the biocom server rooms.

[eternal talon]

it was dead space, yes.

[white moth]

hmm idk there is a lot of speculation becuase we need more lore thankfully we will get some with Alt R2-R6

maybe even more when R8 finally comes out

[eternal talon]

we always need more lore

[white moth]

nevere nough

[eternal talon]

the game really likes to only give us half-information

[white moth]

i still havent figured out what the prisoneers eat

[eternal talon]

on whatever topic it is discussing

[white moth]

yeah but i mean thats the fun part

speculation

then to find out whats right and whats wrong

[eternal talon]

we have no idea. we know the site has cantines and cafeterias from schaeffer's audio logs before he went into stasis

i would assume it is some kind of IV-fed nutrients and stuff while we are in stasis.

[white moth]

yeah i know i covered it in a short and i said the IV thing was the most likley option

but what teh fuck does shaeffer and klaus eat?

sleepers?

mole rats?

idk

[eternal talon]

technically they shouldn't even be alive.

[white moth]

true

[eternal talon]

nam-v kills in maximum of 5 weeks.

it has been over a year

[white moth]

what if they arent alive and its just logs they left from the past

like some fallout 76 overseer stuff

and they were talking to the crew before us

and we are clones

lo

[eternal talon]

wouldn't be the case. in r7 we interact with them directly.

[white moth]

lol*

thats why we cant remeber anything

ah fair

tats trues

[eternal talon]

like r7b1 where we give schaeffer a cargo directly and he says 'got it'

[white moth]

i forgot about that

[eternal talon]

or in r7c3 where he and henrikkson fuck up and cause an error alarm we have to deal with

[white moth]

shhhhhhhhhh

i only have done A-D 1

[eternal talon]

we are in #gtfo-lore. there are no spoiler warnings here

[white moth]

i know lmao

[eternal talon]

we did get a lot of cool lore in the later levels tho

[white moth]

i know in D2 that we gotta get that drive

me and my friends are in the process of beating it

im just scared becuase we havent made it out

[eternal talon]

like this d2 log that proves that biocom is still active and fighting the wrdn

or in c2 these weird glowing flowy runes on the teleporter cables.

not to mention the parasite log in e1!

[white moth]

i love dauda log

best log in game

[white moth]

waht the hell is specimen 22

[eternal talon]

That is.. a very complicated answer

So,

[white moth]

i just learned about

i am so confuzzled

[eternal talon]

Kovac had the rise project, right?

Basically an alternative to their legion program

[white moth]

yes

[eternal talon]

We are a part of legion

[white moth]

yes

[eternal talon]

RISE works by taking human 'seeds' and maturing them at an incredibly accelerated rate into soldiers to supplement the stock of legion

[white moth]

mmhmm

[eternal talon]

Problem being, rise subjects still had the mental capacity of children, despite having the bodies of adults

So eventually, Kovac abandoned the project

Wrdn comes along far far later, and learns about this sometime around r2 early r3

And it plans to use the remnants of rise to create "Units" that are immune to sleepers to save on resources

We don't know how it did this, just that it managed to through some kind of genetic splicing with nam-v. In the case of u22, it is invisible to everything except scouts.

In r3, we create a unit that we do not know the number of. Perhaps 1.

[stone vine]

i wonder if they’ve ever looked here for lore ifeas

ideas*

[eternal talon]

In r6dx, we find the corpse of unit 22

In r7, we are creating unit 23.

[stone vine]

yes

cutiepie unit 23

[eternal talon]

As goes the title of r7a1, "unit 23"

[white moth]

HIS NAME IS KEVIN

it has been decided

we had a stream poll last night

[eternal talon]

And every itteration, the wrdn is getting better and better at it.

[stone vine]

actually their name has been jrungle

long time

[white moth]

no

its kevin

[stone vine]

they/them jrungle

[eternal talon]

U23 as we see in r7d1, grows go an adult size in mere seconds.

[stone vine]

i disagree

[stone vine]

yassss

[eternal talon]

Something that most like @rocky wraith would tell you is ridiculously impossible

[white moth]

so basically Specimen 22 is the ultimate Sleeper fighting machine

and Specimen 23 is the newer model

[stone vine]

pretty much i mean it’s def explainable

[eternal talon]

So some kind of allen tech must be involved.

[stone vine]

just rlly like unreasonable

yeah

[white moth]

thats all im gonna explain it as for the sake of time lmao

Speciment 22 but just know its basically a Super Soldier that's biologically engineered by the warden to fight sleepers and be undetectable

[eternal talon]

I can answer any other questions you may have

[white moth]

to the sleeprs

[white moth]

no thats all

just wondeirng the basics of it

ill be asking more tmr when i work on R7

[eternal talon]

Yep. Glad to be of help

[white moth]

do we know how 22 died?

[eternal talon]

I spend.. basically all my free time on this

[eternal talon]

Schaeffer bashes it's brains in with a lead pipe in r6dx. Immediately after is when wrdn sends us to go confirm its status

We hear on an audio log him doing it

[white moth]

OHHH

Maddock?

or is that a different person

[eternal talon]

Maddock is a different person

He dies in r7a1

[white moth]

ok

[eternal talon]

Schaeffer woke him from hydrostasis incorrectly and his brain began to melt

He tried to kill Schaeffer, Schaeffer choked him to death.

Or something along those lines

[white moth]

do you guys mind reading over my script to make sure everything is lore accurate?

if not i uynderstand just wanna make sure eveyrthing is lore accurate i went off of GTFO Expidtion Summary, R5 R6 logs and you guys

just gonna put it here cause i forgot to do laundry and i gotta go do it rq

[eternal talon]

I will in a bit

[white moth]

thx dad

[eternal talon]

I can't comment on any of the gameplay lore really, as i didn't play r5.

1. The KDS Deep is the part of the facility where the NAM-V and Parasitidae Virus originated breaking containment. We do not know if this is the location. given it was Santonian who were conducting research on it, and the quarantined area was in a Santonian mining tunnel, I would not think it likely.

2)It is the deepest and most secure part of the entire complex and houses multiple Allen artifacts we do not know this to be true. We also don't know it to be false. this one can go either here or there as early in the story before Team Insight really sets up shop, most of what we know is that the artifacts were sent off-site.

3)It is unknown if the meatball monster is a Infected Allen or just a mutated sleeper but they are a new enemy while technically true that we do not know with 100% certainty if they are allens or not, it would seem that not is the most likely answer as we do not encounter any of them in garganta or on earth until after our squad leaves the tether open in r6b1. Combine this with the edgar/teal creature and the fact that an autopsy on one of the allens was performed long before this, it doesnt seem likely. The most realistic explanation in my honest opinion is that they, like the kraken, are the infected native life forms of destination like wild animals and such.
.

[white moth]

Okay 1 makes sense now because they did experiments before KDS Deep was made. 2 I’m gonna say it’s most likely the deepest and most secure. 3 I’ll mention that it’s probabaly of Arizona but maybe no the Allen’s who brought us the tech in the first place

[eternal talon]

4)C3 is for us to set up a distraction so we can jump whereever we are going with the data cubes and teh MWP C3 is unrelated to the MWP and allen technology to my knowledge. it is simply us being a distraction so a less experienced team of operatives working for the wrdn can complete an objective, whatever that objective may be.

5)I will not be talking about D4 since it has been confirmed to be non cannon it is canon, we were just told previously to quote; "not worry about it too much" since at the time, none of the other relavant information regarding world-lines was present for the most part. In context with what we know now, it makes a lot more sense, if a bit of an outlier in terms of the story.
.

[white moth]

5 Oh it said it was confirmed non cannon in the documents of gtfo rundown explainatoon I was just gonna go off of that but I’ll add info on it, 4 okay I’ll just say it has us making a distraction for an unknown purpose

Thank you very much

[eternal talon]

6)We are tasked with cordiniates for Alpha Three, another outpost in the other Plain Of Existance that I will be referring to now as Arizona most of the lore community at large just consider the allen planet to be called "Destination". Previously it was "red alpha" but that caused confusion because there was also an event in the gtfo timeline labeled red alpha.

7)in DX we are tasked with establishing an uplunk with an undiscloed Alpha Outpost in Arizona but is most likley Alpha Three, the outpost we got cordinates for in BX BX and DX are indeed the same facility. this can be seen by the giant surface-fan, visible just outside the map in BX also.

[eternal talon]

to my knowlege the summary of expeditions doccument hasn't been updated since r7 released.

[eternal talon]

a fun fact relating to point #7, you can see the same mountains in the far distance of both sites alpha 2 and alpha 3.

showing while they are not that close to eacother, they are roughly in the same mountain basin.

we do not know where d1 or c1 take place however, as all terrain is obscured below the mountain. we just know that we are on a mountainpeak, somewhere.

also, here's some damn good pictures of squidward i got back in the day.

[white moth]

6 I was told it was Arizona so I shall refer to it as that for the end of time 7 okay I’ll say that it’s in the same area as Alpha Three

[eternal talon]

biologically speaking, it shares some surprising similarities to earth's cuttlefish

[white moth]

That’s Cloyster

[eternal talon]

(squidward in the game files, not joking)

[white moth]

Nah it’s cloyster

But yes I know about that

[eternal talon]

here you can see the same surface-vent.

i've got hundreds of pictures of gtfo lore n' stuff you would like

here is a picture of U-22.

[white moth]

Man’s needs a burger

[white moth]

So It could be the same outpost just different parts?

[eternal talon]

you think thats bad...

[white moth]

Delete that

[eternal talon]

it is. DX we are underground. BX we are above ground. you can even spot one of the security doors leading down from the surface portion.

[white moth]

The mods will mute you

They don’t like modded lhotos

Photos^

[eternal talon]

that one is fine.

[white moth]

I got perma banned and had to appeal

[eternal talon]

we can use the camera mod, same as the wiki

[white moth]

Cause I posted a photo of the mountain ranges on R6

[white moth]

Bruh why was I banned :/

[eternal talon]

for out of bounds stuff.. i'd say probably not

[white moth]

Mannnnn

Oh

[white moth]

Ok we’ll time to fix my script thank you very much for all of the help

[eternal talon]

it is a very beautiful sight

sandstorms the height of mountains

[white moth]

Also when I show the picture of dead speicmen 22 imma do “thanks a lot Barry, you asshole”

Wait no it’s “this is why we can’t have nice things, barry. You asshole”

[eternal talon]

i do not get the reference.

[white moth]

Damn

Nobody watches archer anymore

[eternal talon]

i dont even know what that is

i'm assuming a TV show

[white moth]

;-;

It’s the best but we are getting off topic lol

Here is clip

https://youtu.be/l1Imv4Jcnwg

[toxic flower]

archer intro theme fucks

[white moth]

Yessir

They need to add the chauchat to gtfo I wanna kill sleepers while screaming “he mange me poire”

[eternal talon]

ah, reminds me,
8)At Alpha One we can secure the Pathogen Genome Database for the warden so they can start the Primary Restoration Initiative but we have to turn on the reactor in order to transmit the database to the warden the reactor is to restart the power systems and the fog terminal is to remove the fog. you can complete d1 without doing either. it just makes the apex door easier.

they are both to just make dealing with scans at the bottom of the pit not a pain in the ass

[white moth]

Man they need to update the rundowns guide

[eternal talon]

i've done many a-rushed bio tracker infection resist run of d1 back in the day.

[eternal talon]

you win some you lose some. they do good work on archiving the logs though.

i should also mention
9)With that we move onto B1, in B1 we are tasked with getting cordinates for Data cubes, devices able to show us the cordinates of outposts in this different plain of existance, we fight our way through foes and meet a knew enemy we call the Meatball Monster you already may know this, you may not, the data cubes aren't human made. they are also artifacts.

[white moth]

I did I just forgot to mention it I’ll add it

[eternal talon]

in total, we've seen about 9 of them i think (not including the ones that start in the MWP) as it requires 3 to function

as to how picking them up teleports us in c1.. your guess is as good as mine

[white moth]

Quantum entanglement

[eternal talon]

that is what d4 is about btw aswell.

the tampered data cubes are sending us to alternate world-line earths

weither in the end of d4 we end up back in our original world line... who knows.

we jump 3 times if i remember correctly.

[toxic flower]

question
is hackett's first name hackett and his last name is aiden?

[eternal talon]

first name aiden.

last name hackett

[white moth]

whats obama's last name?

[toxic flower]

boring
aiden is his last name

[eternal talon]

abeo dauda.

[white moth]

obama dauda

make sense

[toxic flower]

damn
obama really went downhill

man lost all his hair

[eternal talon]

from president to sketchy south african doctor

[white moth]

and he cant play ball no more

just do doctor stuff

and say "the scout is dead"

[toxic flower]

he aint ever ballin again

😭

[white moth]

ok hear me out

[toxic flower]

holy shit

FRANK BISHOP IS FUCKING BALLIN

[eternal talon]

i told you guys. i have all the gtfo images

been playing since r1

[white moth]

which gtfo character can crip walk the best?

[eternal talon]

here is another

[white moth]

new lore video

[toxic flower]

i forget these mfs have eyes at times

[eternal talon]

hackett's seen some shit

[toxic flower]

he's irish
makes sense

[eternal talon]

we do know the time btw

they crashed on earth 65 million years ago our time so...

5525000000 this many years ago

(since 85x)

It's not a relativity issue. This is a calculable change in the quantum frequency. Durant's time was running faster than our time. And not by a little - by a lot. Back of the envelope math is 1 second in our quantum frequency is about 85 seconds in Durant's quantum frequency. I mean I
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STOKES
I want to scream but I don't have the energy. There are places that pass through time at a different rate. This is multi-dimensional physics. This is a change in our fundamental understanding of the universe, or it's another universe, or there are multiple versions of this universe and we happened to pick up the trace of a different universe or
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https://www.notion.so/Timeline-0e93a62e8cfd44b3a36beb4ab245a2d0?p=ec970edd9bf540bb8b3067bcd84ccc45&pm=s
https://www.notion.so/Timeline-0e93a62e8cfd44b3a36beb4ab245a2d0?p=6bf8c73545114da2a4f77d33e5af99a5&pm=s
here are the two stokes logs. you probably want them.

very important for the world-line lore stuff

[stone vine]

i just realized something

technically

isnt all of the alt logs lore for the alt universe

its stuff that happened in alt

so considering theres a log on bishop in that universe

i mean obv theres alt universe versions of us but thats like funkkkyyyy

so the funky alien noises have to do with alt

id say the logs r def pointing us towards what we need in alt

anyways

i was reading the log on bishops mask thing and just realized that

[toxic flower]

log on bishop's mask?

[stone vine]

yes

bishop had a security mask

when he wasnt at garganta and like stashed it somewhere

it was covered in his dna

n they took it to an artifact research place..

also about alien log

it states that it was transmitted from somewhere in the facility

idk which facility theyre talking abt

but that means its probably a creature or something somewhere in one of the operations

Security footage shows the target left the facility at 23:46 on December 28th 2052. There is no record of him boarding official transport from the facility, and there were no air transports after 23:00 hours last night. This means he is likely in a private vessel. We have extensive patrols monitoring traffic along the Yucatan current, but we believe the target is heading east or north and will stay on the water for as long as possible.

Alert all coastal outposts as far as Cancun and initiate a VS along both the Loop current and the Florida current. You are approved to use as many resources as necessary to fulfill this task.

The target is carrying extremely hazardous material which must be returned to the client at all costs. Ensure your operatives are wearing full protective gear at all times and follow the latest hazmat regulations.

Should the target make it to Cuba, we will be forced to station agents around the Gulf coast to monitor all points of ingress to the United States. This overt action could compromise the privacy of our client. The target must not escape the net.

is it even an alien

[eternal talon]

yes

[stone vine]

wait

is it a unit

think about it

[eternal talon]

no.

[stone vine]

hmmm

whats ur thoughts

we know it isnt from another world

[eternal talon]

well i know what it is in the code, but i won't say that here.

[stone vine]

ah

[eternal talon]

as that isn't for certain

so i can't comment really.

[stone vine]

pm?

OH HOLD ON

sorry caps

something else

"drawn to something"

gargling transmissions from the facility?

sleepers going deeper for something

funky coincidence

[eternal talon]

well they came from deeper. they were locked away in the meteor for millions of years

[stone vine]

thats what im saying tho

the noise

ive believed queen theory for a long ass time

im wondering if it might get confirmed

think about it

If they don't know where a transmission came from then its likely not publicly in the complex, so its definitely deeper.

may help point to what the noise is

also

deeper is such a brought up notion in this game

warden sends us deeper each rundown

schaeffer needs to go deeper

this is a project insight email

guess who had connections with project insight

this states even the sleepers are going deeper

[eternal talon]

not schaeffer.

schaeffer worked for santonian

[stone vine]

prisoners did

[eternal talon]

prisoners did not.

[stone vine]

yes

dauda?

[eternal talon]

dauda wasn't a part of legion or anything

[stone vine]

i thought he sent info on sleepers as a project insight thing

i might be mistaken

[eternal talon]

he got cornered by sleepers while the facility was being overrun and got into a hydrostasis unit

[eternal talon]

he did research on them while working for insight, yes.

[stone vine]

thats what i mean

they have connections to insight right

[eternal talon]

none of our other prisoners did though

bishop made the SMC website,

but other than that none of the others have anything to do with them

[stone vine]

is kso

a project insight thing

[eternal talon]

no

kovac

[stone vine]

ohhhh

[eternal talon]

called the legion program

kso stands for Kovac Security Operative

[stone vine]

whats legion i am slightly unfamiliar

[stone vine]

i see

[eternal talon]

we are a part of legion\

taking people against their will and subjecting them to forced hydrostasis to wipe their memory

then integrating them into the biocom network as mindless slaves with neural implants

i say mindless, but i moreso mean without free-will

we MUST comply with our orders.

we have no choice.

[toxic flower]

there's another choice

just die

[stone vine]

i might have gotten a bit stumped im not farmiliar with the

[eternal talon]

we can't choose to die

[stone vine]

operations

we lit dont die

LMAO

[toxic flower]

how do you simply just not die

[stone vine]

gaming chair

[eternal talon]

they can die, but they cant kill themselves

[toxic flower]

why

[stone vine]

wym no proof they can die

[eternal talon]

they cant do anything like that to try and off themselves

[stone vine]

they simply live forever

on the floor

[eternal talon]

our squad never dies though. we canoncially beat every level PE first try

[stone vine]

good gaming chairs

[toxic flower]

wait but
how come they can't cap themselves

[eternal talon]

cap?

[stone vine]

cuz if someones controlling ur brain

u cant shoot urself

[toxic flower]

not with that attitude

[stone vine]

true

next gtfo update devs r gonna add the option to no life

i mean technically u can like jump into a hole?