#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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viral geode
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Anyway anyone know any places in Virginia selling 3090s

fleet canopy
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Yeah

viral geode
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That's where all the scalpers live tho

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Let alone Amazon jacks the fucking price up double

fleet canopy
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They should just go back to shitty shoes

viral geode
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Straight up just bouta email bezis

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Bezos*

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Just ask for one

fleet canopy
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I find it funny I want to go up a tier every generation

viral geode
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I'm doing it mainly because my friend ain't that well off and his rig is kinda dookie so I'm gonna send some of my shit to him

fleet canopy
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Well every two tier I guess

viral geode
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I wish I could get ahold of that sexy strix 3080ti with the built in aio

fleet canopy
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That’s just expensive as fuck lmao

viral geode
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But that's even more expensive than a 3090 and my case kinda has nowhere to mount an aio

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Only spot would be at the bottom and that's no good

fleet canopy
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Any watercooled GPU gets to be a fucking big premium

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It’s insane that it’s even that much more expensive

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Just might as well say fuck it and go for the next tier in the generation instead

viral geode
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It's more of just a "hey wouldn't that be cool" I'm not gonna actually get one

fleet canopy
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Ah

viral geode
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Got no place to mount an aio

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Only place is the bottom of my case

fleet canopy
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Just saw a part of the case to fit one

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iirc a part of the 3090 is completely see through so wtf is it cooling

viral geode
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Lol. My case is some custom made inwin case for skytech. The dudes who prebuilt my shit

fleet canopy
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Let the air through to the bottom of case sure

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But most likely someone put fans on the bottom of case

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They just have to afford 10 fans to show off their pc with a 3090 3sSenkoCool

viral geode
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I've got my spare fan from my NH-D15

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Or I could just line the bottom with daisy chained inwins

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Lol

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I'm not gonna get an FE 3090 anyway. I'm gonna get one with good thermals

cinder crypt
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so with all this i should be able to put my pc together soon

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ill send pics when i got it all together

hasty prawn
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I put it all in

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Case is a Corsair 7000D

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@cinder crypt I'm looking forward to it

viral geode
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What gpu?

hasty prawn
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Me? MSI suprim 3080ti

viral geode
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Hawt

viral geode
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At my local microcenter it's cheaper for a 3090 than it is to get one of those things

hasty prawn
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Yer they are a really good looking card. I would of rather had a 3090 tbh but they had this so just got it while I could. Shame Corsair require you to spend money on a controller for the argb which is stupid. I ordered 4 other argb for the front and back they are coming today and tomorrow :D

viral geode
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As shitty as MSI are as a company can't deny that card is hawt

hasty prawn
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@viral geode I think this card is the only thing good about them. Oh and the unify board can have 4 nvme sticks on it that's it. I had to uninstall the msi dragon centre and the msi centre because they were messing with my MSI GPU lol!

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They kept making my GPU ignore my set curve and kept causing microstutters which was werid lol

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One downside to the card is it's not good in a midi case 20cm wide as it vents out the front and heats up the glass.so I had to buy a bigger case.

viral geode
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Oif

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I'm not gonna get a founders edition 3090 because bad thermals. But I'm not sure which brand I want. Suppose it's a tossup between the Asus and a ftw3

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The Asus for performance and ftw3 because I hear that's the most readily available

hasty prawn
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Asus is the one I wanted originally but I gave up then I just got what I could. My mate has a ftw and he has had some issues with it but he don't really say what other than his games are not running as high as he thought. I guess it depends how much you want to spend and availability.

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Here in the uk the 3090 is £2500 and the 3080ti average about £1500

viral geode
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Im just kinda going for it. Full tilt ya know

sage scarab
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Been wanting to get a proper gaming PC for a while but I’m on a tight budget so idk where to start with this. I’m new to the “PC” scene but have played console for years and just started recently on a laptop. If anyone has any suggestions I’d greatly appreciate it.

barren wadi
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go for a build service, not prebuilts

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like nzxt bld, redux pc's

viral geode
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Skytech has pretty good prebuilts for cheap. That's where I got mine

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People will crucify you for a prebuilt but it's the only way to get a good GPU for cheap

barren wadi
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some build services only charge a build fee

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prebuilts are bad for the fact that their cases generally have bad airflow

viral geode
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As long as you don't get it from like MSI or Walmart or Alienware you're pretty well off

hasty prawn
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That's me done now the last fans arrived today and iv fit them

viral geode
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Hawt

fleet canopy
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Red Gay Blue colors

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Looks pretty neat :)

wraith oxide
hasty prawn
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@wraith oxide 64gb ram @3600 MHz ryzen 9 5950x and MSI suprim 3080ti with a couple of sticks of nvme and a b550 mobo and 850w Asus Thor PSU

wraith oxide
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very nice

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i see you got the strimer plus

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best extensions imo

jade ermine
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built for friend. Cosmos C700P is one hell of a case!

viral geode
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That the ROG one?

viral geode
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It amazes me that a single chrome tab and a zoom call open is taking up this much on my school issue laptop

hasty prawn
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@wraith oxide Yer they are a pain to fit but look good haha

bright shard
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sad, i've got like 300 tabs open in waterfox and it uses the same amount of ram.

fleet canopy
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Because school laptops are that fucking ass lmao

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Any ad? Fucking makes it shit

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I cannot believe how bad they have to be

cinder crypt
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is it a chrome book

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if it is i thought they were being advertised as good gaming laptops

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jk i know they aren't

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they false advertiser it as it but everyone knows it cant run minecraft

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decently at least

viral geode
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Its a dell

cinder crypt
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hmmmmm

cinder crypt
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by tomorrow night i should have pics of pc but if i dont expect me to be sad and upset

fleet canopy
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:(

fleet canopy
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Heating issue

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Can't seem to figure out why though

fleet canopy
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bum funi

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<@&408548765599793173>

dry hollow
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Everything looks normal to me

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Putting more stickers on it should cool it down

cinder crypt
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so far

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this is all thats together

viral geode
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What's the best kind of ram to get for ryzen? I heard some are better than others

abstract kite
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I don't think it matters?

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Get the max Mhz your MOBO can handle

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Of course DDr4

fleet canopy
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Just get 3600Mhz cas15 I guess

abstract kite
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Ew it's muppy

fleet canopy
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Hmph

abstract kite
fleet canopy
cinder crypt
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@fleet canopy

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question

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if your here

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@viral geode

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anyone

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please spare a moment of your time

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i have a plce power connector

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how do i know which way plugs into the gpu and psu

dry hollow
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Is one side labeled PSU or pcie?
Also pictures would probably be the best way to help

cinder crypt
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nvm

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i think i figureed it out

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right side of cables is power correct?

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and left is for 2 connections for 2 gpus correct?

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@dry hollow

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there is 2 cables labeled pcle and other one has no label

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i assume power goes into one that has no label

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and out pcle

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also is mbr for the ssd and hard drive better or gpt better?

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my new motherboard has uefi

fleet canopy
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I think it doesn’t matter

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The single end is for psu, the bend one is for GPU

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Most connectors to the GPU doesn’t have it together so people can do 6 pins with an extra 2 for a later upgrade or whatever

cinder crypt
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cable management work in progress

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we just gotta finish copying my stuff from my ssd to make sure my old pc will still boot if need be

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and then fresh install on my new pc once we get gpu in and hopefully everything works

dry hollow
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The daisy chained part of the pcie cable connects to the card

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So in your picture the bottom part goes into PSU and the top goes into your card

barren wadi
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yes the ones with pcie label connects to gpu, its not advisable to swap orientations but they probably wont fit anyway cause they should be keyed differently

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and also it just makes sense for the longer part to connect to psu

cinder crypt
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ITS ALIVE

fleet canopy
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:))

viral geode
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Specs?

fleet canopy
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Gay

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It's all gay

viral geode
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So a Radeon card?

fleet canopy
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Wow radeon cards are not gay

cinder crypt
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@fleet canopy @viral geode

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its done

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we got it all back together and its done

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and these are the specs

fleet canopy
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The colors look pretty nice

cinder crypt
fleet canopy
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At least 3TB

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smh I only need 1TB 😎

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I thought maybe you already got a 3060 Ti or something

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As in bought it recently, but yeah

cinder crypt
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nah not yet

cinder crypt
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but all seems to work so im very happy

inner hinge
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my dad gave me these because he said they are part of a computer

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i asked for a mac

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what do I do with these

fleet canopy
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Dunno

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Probably could see if it fits together

inner hinge
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i did but then

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my hard drive was clicking

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so I opened it u

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and I dont think this is good???.

fleet canopy
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Probably not

inner hinge
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what it mean

inner hinge
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please help

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my dad is not happy

fleet canopy
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I don't know what to say lol

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It just seems like a troll to me

chrome hamlet
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tell a dad joke he'll leave you alone

barren wadi
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in a game discord

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asks for a mac

fleet canopy
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I'm gonna do this rn

junior stone
barren wadi
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the money u spent on the mb couldve been shaved abit to go for a better model 6700xt

jade ermine
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Enjoy Jedi

dry hollow
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6700 xt's don't need more than 2 fans, the massive cards are just dumb

barren wadi
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better model = better pcb = better cooling = better perf

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but hey what do i know GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

dry hollow
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Maybe like 2 more frames, I don't know, my asrock 2 fan card clocks higher than my brothers gigabyte 3 fan card, his was about $100 more. Also those cards do not run hot

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As long as you get a decent card going higher up doesn't make sense, you'll hit a voltage limit before you reach a temperature limit

barren wadi
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aite whatever suits u best

cinder crypt
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i would had to sell my kidneys for a gpu if i didnt already have one

fleet canopy
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I could just sell my GPU for like 740$ or less on Ebay if I wanted

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240$ more than what I paid for I guess lol

cinder crypt
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yea i could do the same and get what i payed for my prebuilt i got it out of basically

proper wren
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10 hours trying to fix an issue

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Mobo issue done. Couldnt find any other problem

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Turns out is the damn 4.0 riser cable

cinder crypt
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what was the issue

junior stone
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Thnx unluigi

junior stone
proper wren
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Doggobster yes

fleet canopy
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Gaming

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Wednesdays be like

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Gaming

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Thursdays be like

junior stone
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Not the cleanest wiring job but for my first build, I'm pleased

hasty prawn
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I added a new motherboard too at the last minute. The aorus master x570 v1.2

fleet canopy
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8 fans

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Smh

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That’s not even enough

hasty prawn
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@fleet canopy I have 11 fans there is 3 on the front too 14 if you count the 3 on my GPU and 15 if you count the one on the motherboard lol

fleet canopy
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Ah, yes

hasty prawn
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3 140mm on the front 1 140mm rear and the rest are 120mm

cinder crypt
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i only have 3 fans

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2 200 mm and 1 140 mm

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eventually will add more

fleet canopy
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I’ve only got two case fans

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:))

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And 1 cpu, 3 GPU

cinder crypt
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3 gpus?

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dam

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what are you trying to run crysis?

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lol

fleet canopy
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I mean as in 1 CPU fan, 3 GPU fans lol

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Who the fuck can afford 3 nowadays

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lolk

hasty prawn
fleet canopy
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Stinky poo price

hasty prawn
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i could get 3 of those 3090s right now for £6000 and get finance for 4 years at about £125-£140 a month I could plug 2 into my mobo and use the third to defend myself against my mrs when she finds out i bought more pc stuff lol

fleet canopy
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Fucking 6K to dump on them

hasty prawn
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i wouldn't even pay 2k tbh the 3080s were £2300 there in july now they are £1200.

fleet canopy
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That's cool

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Still a nightmare of a price though so lol

hasty prawn
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yup but its dropping fast

fleet canopy
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It might increase though

hasty prawn
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china have banned bitcoin etc

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they were one of the main reasons of the price increase with all the mining plus with the lhr people are looking to older cards to mine now

fleet canopy
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Yeah

jade ermine
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Also miners hate LHR models

viral geode
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Finally worked up enough money to buy the 3090 I was looking at, and the price went upScoutRage

wanton oyster
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So, I went form being able to run this game at 130 fps to 7 fps ....
Thanks, awesome update squad.

wanton oyster
viral geode
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I've got a 3070 atm but thank you

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But perhaps a few extra shifts and I'll have enough or just look somewhere else

cinder crypt
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how much would you sell it for hmm?

viral geode
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I would sell my 3070 for the extra money but I'd rather be able to play games while I'm eaiting

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Waiting *

strong whale
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why would you need anything better than a 3070

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unless you plan on playing some games on 4k res

viral geode
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Because passion project

fleet canopy
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Because he wants to waste money :))

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And have bragging rights smh

viral geode
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:)

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Never really found a passion before but I'm starting to really enjoy all the hardware and how it works

hasty prawn
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@viral geode I would just keep saving then when the 40 series is out in 22 get the 4090 or get a 3080ti. Unless you actually need a 3090 for some reason.

cinder crypt
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so i have a question im having problems everytime ive put my computer in sleep mode it seems like when i come back after awhile my computer will freeze and task manger and my task bar wil not work all applications like icue discord stop working and only fix is hard reset with button if i wait a little bit to see if it sorts itself out my power button on front will not work and only sulution is turning power off completely from psu i did keep my old windows on the ssd and im wondring if that might be the problem

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it wont freeze right away btw

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only parts that are the same from my old pc are hdd ssd and gpu

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i can still right click and icon for stuff will pop up

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but when i click on the persinlize desktop it pops up with window saying it could find program so i wonder if the ssd im using windows on might be the problem

hasty prawn
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@cinder crypt I would do a clean install of Windows. Sounds like what happened to me when I just switched my CPU and my motherboard and only stopped when I reinstalled windows. Check all drivers are the latest version too.

dry hollow
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Doesn't icue have a memory leak problem or was that fixed?

hasty prawn
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@dry hollow I'm not sure but it may be worth them trying to uninstall that too to find the source of the error

twin ginkgo
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Anyone want to help a budda out? Im in the market for ram sticks but I never bough any before. Im looking at amazon right now but im options kind of guy

fleet canopy
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Get some 3200MHz CAS16 ram, they’re pretty good for every gaming pc

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2x8Gb (16GB) as well

twin ginkgo
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oh its not too pricy either, good looks mayroo

cinder crypt
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@lilac obsidian a 5800x

dry hollow
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I'm having issues setting up raid in my bios

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It just freezes when I try to select what level I want

dry hollow
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Bios update fixed it

lilac obsidian
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I set the following in BIOS & Haven't had the issue happen for months now;
Global C-states --> Disabled
Power Supply Idle Control --> Typical current idle

cinder crypt
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@lilac obsidian yea someone on forums said they had a similar problem with 2700x but im going to try a clean install just because i basically built a new pc except for the gpu,ssd and hdd im replacing the ssd with a 500 gb 3d one

lilac obsidian
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it was a brand new PC for me

cinder crypt
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ill start with a clean install and go from there there is people saying they had same problem

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and fresh install fixed it

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cause i did change parts out like i said everything even the case is new and only thing the same is gpu ssd with old windows on it and hdd so people have said if it still has old drivers it could be trying to access them after sleep mode and using memory up till it wont work anymore

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and it might fix it it might not

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only one way to figure it out cause it apparently is most likely memory issue something is eating up memory after sleep because it failed to start program back up after sleep and continues to try and eats up ram

lilac obsidian
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@cinder crypt the only way I could describe my issue was it was never locking up when doing anything intensive, but would lock up when idle

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My fix is there if it does turn out to be that issue anyway, good luck!

cinder crypt
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mine would only lock up after coming out of sleep it never locks up when idle or when running intensive games

cinder crypt
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if you have a twitch account better change your password and enable 2fa

fleet canopy
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Bum

fleet canopy
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Pc gaming

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Build help and tech talk

cinder crypt
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technically is tech talk kinda

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even then sometimes we get off topic here

fleet canopy
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But no one would care, eh?

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After all, it had to be coming from something about tech itself

cinder crypt
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well i just thought i would let people know sorry

fleet canopy
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It’s okay

lilac obsidian
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Seems tech related to me

hasty prawn
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what you think about that my current boot drive is a 500gb 2000mbsread 1000mbs write I am thinking of replacing it with that. I already have the older 1tb sn750 and a gen 4 sammy 980 1tb. this comes with battlefield though as well

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I have 3 m.2 slots on my board

dry hollow
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just remember its cacheless

snow thorn
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need some help, took a stab at making my own computer today and got it to post! But having an issue where the cpu overheats and the computer shuts off. When booting into the bios it says fan error or something like that and its not picking up the aio that I have. I have ROG strix b550-f, ryzen 7 5800x, with rog 360 AIO, idk what to do, i updated the bios, re-seated the aio, new thermal paste, changed the aio header connecting to the mother board to different sites. Everything is new, no dust, any help is appreaciated.

fleet canopy
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Check to see if the cpu cooler is connected to the CPU fan input on motherboard

snow thorn
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yea, i have the block connected to the aio header and the other connection to the usb power, then the fans off the radiator are connected to the motherboard fan pins. the fans spin and the rgb lights from the block are on.

fleet canopy
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Are you sure it’s on CPU_FAN though?

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Just want to be sure yes

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I don’t really know what would be wrong cause it’s weird that it’ll not work

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Considering it’s supposed to just be plugging in and working right away so

snow thorn
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I know thats why im going crazy, 😦

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i changed it from cpu fan, to cpu opt, to fan 2

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and each time the fans are picked up, but the aio isn't and cpu temp just keeps going up and when it reaches 100 it just shuts off

fleet canopy
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Did you peel off the sticker on the cooling block?

snow thorn
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it had the cover and the preapplied thermal paste, but when i re-seated it, i got new thermal paste and applied it

fleet canopy
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But the sticker did come off yes?

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Well no it shouldn’t cause a 100 and crash actually

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Refer to link and maybe it’ll work probably

snow thorn
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yea no sticker inbetween the block and the cpu, let me see what connection point is on now and switch it back to the one on the site

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do you think it matters there are different types of fans?

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i have the three from rog on the aio, then six from lian li uni-fans, but all of them spin and light up

fleet canopy
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Those all should work fine

snow thorn
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bad quality, sorry, but connected on the cpu fan, everything lights up and spins, i can get into the bios, this was just like a minute after i turn it on and you can see after another minute it starts taking off over 80 degrees and keeps going

cinder crypt
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is the pump kicking on at all

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cause that might be a possibilty

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@snow thorn

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cause if it isnt you either have a bad AIO

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or bad spot for the plug in for aio cause theres a dedicated spot for aio on the motherboard

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or the cpu might be bad but my bet if anything is the spot on motherboard is bad or pump on aio is bad

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or thermal paste isnt laid good enough but you said you checked that

snow thorn
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i have the header on the dedicated spot for the aio, and i just checked and it turns out the aio was open box so maybe its bad? idk, first time working with an aio so not sure how else to check if its working. And each time i re-seat it the paste is pretty even.

cinder crypt
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yea if it was open box you might have gotten a bad aio

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if anything should be wrong my money is like i said spot on motherboard or aio is bad

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if you try to replace anything do aio first and if it is not that then you have problems

lilac obsidian
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AIO's work in performance mode by default until you install windows & some AIO pump control software

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The fan error is due to you probably not having a fan connected to the "CPU FAN" header. It's a warning

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Instead you've got the AIO connected though

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Also are you certain the CPU is overheating? what temp does it rise to in your BIOS

cinder crypt
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@lilac obsidian he sent a vidoe

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it rises up to 87

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and keeps going

lilac obsidian
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oof right so probably isnt the software aio issue, sounds like the pump isn't working

cinder crypt
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cause ot looks like aio is powered but not pumping so that lead me to believe pump is bad

cinder crypt
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so quick question

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we built my dads pc and last night everything turned on

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but

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this morning we were going to install windows

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but now the fan will barely spin when we press power button and wont power anything except the motherboard lights

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we just pulled battery out of motherboard and replaced it with same battery type

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just noe

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now

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to see if that fixes it if it doesnt any other reason this would be happening

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because we didnt change anything in bios

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@fleet canopy

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@lilac obsidian

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asking for a freind because its just weird that it would do this

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pulling battery out did not help

cinder crypt
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ok

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figured it out

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his power power supply does not like my sata psu cables it shorts his psu out

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cause he needed extra sata cables

marble flume
fleet canopy
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Is it 2000$ because of the GPU?

void perch
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oooh that SN850 is going to be really nice. I'm making a build with 2 of those and can't wait to benchmark them

barren wadi
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Pog dev

hasty prawn
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@marble flume can you switch that mobo I would if you can. I just sold a asus prime b550 plus although its an ok board if you have any issues at all with it you have to reset the cmos which is very annoying. you have to take the battery out of the board and short it. Anything that causes an error can make it lock too till you remove that battery. if you can change it look for a mobo with a cmos button. Issues I had was once I forgot to plug in display cable the board pinged an error i had to remove battery to make it work again which involved having to remove my gpu. I plugged the my aio fan into the wrong port once got a cpu fan error till i removed that battery aswell as other annoying things. I would also get a second ssd drive to for the gen 3 slot lower down with your operating system and games you will fill that sn850 and a full ssd causes severe performance issues you can get a sn750 for about £100.

cinder crypt
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@lilac obsidian seems to be windows was indeed the problem

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reinstalling it so far seems to have fixed it

fleet canopy
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lilac obsidian
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Hey all, having a weird crashing on my PC. It's like the PC locks up in a weird way. I can still play whatever game I'm playing, I can hear audio perfectly fine and everything but discord in the background cut out. Once I tabbed out to check if discord was crashed or something I can't tab back into the game and windows becomes unresponsive. I can't click back into any applications. I can Ctrl alt delete and it shows up fine. I open task manager and it displays but won't allow me to end any tasks & won't auto refresh like it typically does. Only resolution is a hard reboot. I've tried hitting win + alt + shift + Ctrl to reset the display driver with no luck. The fact the audio is fine when this happens means it isn't a hard freeze. Any ideas?

cinder crypt
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i dont know colin its sound similar to what i had and completely fresh installing windows fixed my problem

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not keeping any apps or anything

lilac obsidian
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I've only had this issue twice in the past months but both have been within the last week so I don't think I can recreate the issue

lilac obsidian
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I've given a better description here & build etc

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Really driving me crazy now KEKW

lilac obsidian
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running a memtest now also to see if anything pops up

cinder crypt
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@lilac obsidian idk man that sounds almost exactly like what happened to me now will it fix it idk but if you have tried a full fresh install it could be a hardware issue or a driver problem if its a driver problem a fresh install would fix it cause it gets rid of all files as long as you say delete everything and dont keep apps and settings

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and the pc was working in may right no problem when did the issue first start happening around was it when you changed your gpu

lilac obsidian
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yeah I ended up ddu'ing my drivers earlier and did a fresh driver install

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If it happens again I'll definitely reinstall windows

cinder crypt
#

alright let me know

hasty prawn
#

So I did the f35D windows 11 bios update other day and this happens from a cold start only. You think it's just a bug in bios telling it to emit that sound or you think something is going to break. It only did it after bios and if I shut down again and turn back on it starts as normal. The sounds is the only thing that's different every else starts as normal think I should reflash bios ?

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This is what happens when you shut down and start again surely idlf something was wrong it would keep doing it.

fleet canopy
#

I'm not sure why you updated to Windows 11 this early

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It sucks at gaming by like

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At least 20% iirc

hasty prawn
#

I have a r5950x and a 3080ti I haven't noticed any performance drops so its not really noticeable. I have read about it affecting ryzen chips though and they said they will fix it in oct with amd and Microsoft working closely. I did try rolling back but I cant unless I reinstall windows trust me I have tried. The 15- 20% isn't really noticeable as im already overkill anyway so 20% is like 160fps normal down to 130ish.

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only reason i tried rolling back is none of my apps were working due to windows 11 but once i got the bios update from giga they all started working properly again apart from the post screech thing lol

viral geode
#

Tfw the gou you've been saving for has gone up $1,000 on Newegg

#

GPU*

fleet canopy
#

😔

viral geode
#

Feels so bad man

cinder crypt
#

so my dad is having problems he did something and now pc keeps giving random q codes between all have something to do with vga but we put my gpu in which we know works and still problems any idea

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@fleet canopy

fleet canopy
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VGA? What about other displays?

cinder crypt
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vga is the light

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its plugged in through the hdmi

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its given code 68 21

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and some others

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on a rog strix x570-e

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the white light stays on

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and its given 1 cpu q code but hasnt since

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its basically just pci host bridge initialization

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pch stuff

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any idea

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?

fleet canopy
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Nope

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Tried searching, haven't found answer

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Have found something for now at least

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"POST code 68 is also a memory error. If another lower end CPU is not available to test the board and update the BIOS verify that the issue happens with one stick of RAM in the colored slot furthest from the CPU (slot 5). Reset the BIOS by removing the battery and unplugging the power for 5~10 minutes."

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Perhaps it's another board, but you could fix it in a similar way

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Checked something else, it's a PSU related problem

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Then it sort of goes into a motherboard problem, guy replaced out almost if not all of the PC's components

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And still no fix

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so idk

cinder crypt
#

ok

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so

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weird we possibly

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fixed it

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we pulled all the ram sticks

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and left 1 in

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and it gave a 02 first start up

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but next one it booted up

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we put 2 in now

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booted up fine again

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next is all 4

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worked fine

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bruh

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pcs are weirrd

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only solved it

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cause of this guy with barley any videos and subs

viral geode
#

I had that issue too and he helped me a lot

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Dudes a saint

abstract kite
#

<@&408548765599793173> most channels have this

cinder crypt
#

why did you @ the mods?

pliant pagoda
#

I'm new here, so I'm just going to assume he knows them or he's just having a laugh.

cinder crypt
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no i truly think he @ the mods cause i posted something about pc build help and tech talk in the correct channel

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because apparently most channels have this but they dont have a title with the labled issue that i was having and then they take 5 years to get to the point

pliant pagoda
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Ah

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Okay, I didn't read anything beyond him saying "most channels have this" but I can see that now.

void perch
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there was a spam bot in most channels that they were letting our mod team know about

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nothing to do with you

pliant pagoda
#

Oh, I guess it was just bots then after all.

cinder crypt
#

ah

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ok

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sorry bout that

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but my pc is doing the sleep crash thing again so

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i decide to just make the pc never fall asleep

pliant pagoda
#

When you put it in sleep mode it crashes?

cinder crypt
#

well

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not technically a crash

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it just freezes all apps and stuff

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and i cant do anything

pliant pagoda
#

RIP

cinder crypt
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only fix is to press restart button on the pc

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case

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and it only happens when it falls asleep and when it comes out of sleep it takes about maybe 4 to 6 hours

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to happen

pliant pagoda
#

Something similar happens to me, except when I put mine to sleep it just keep a black screen. I tried looking up every solution and everyone just says to just restart. Really annoys me when I have a project that's not done, but I'm forced to restart.

cinder crypt
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yea thats why i just told windows to never fall asleep lol

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cant have problems if it never falls asleep if i forget to turn it off

pliant pagoda
cinder crypt
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sleep as in the whole computer turns off except ram

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and part of windows

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i think the reason it freezes is cause ram doesnt like to be kept on when rest of the pc is basically off

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and it starts to slowly leak memory

pliant pagoda
#

Oof, that must be a pain for you especially if you have work to do, so you always just keep the PC on

cinder crypt
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yea but luckily i have no work to do yet cause im eventually going to learn how to draw or code

pliant pagoda
#

Oh nice, what kind of drawing are you more into?

cinder crypt
#

uhh what do you mean

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?

dry hollow
#

I'd run ddu and reinstall your gpu drivers

cinder crypt
#

@dry hollow who

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me or colin

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and whats ddu

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and reinstalling gpu drivers wont help

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ive already done a fresh windows install

fleet canopy
#

Device driver uninstaller

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Used for GPU drivers reinstall

abstract kite
#

does anyone have the cpu cooler nh d15

cinder crypt
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@abstract kite why yes i happen to have that cooler why do you ask?

viral geode
#

Yeah I got one too whatchu neex

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Need*

abstract kite
#

because that cooler is so big I needed to move the second cooler sideway (I was not using low profile ram sticks so thats why the second fan didnt fit), it barely fit in the case I am surprised it did although i did not consider the size of the cooler when i bought the case

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Its kinda tedious, but the cooler still should be working fine without 1 fan right

viral geode
#

absolutely

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you can also use that fan as a spare chassi fan

abstract kite
#

Oh okaythankss

cinder crypt
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@abstract kite yes you can use it but if you have room on the other side of heatsink you can also put the fan over on the other side cause it can hold up to 3 fans on heat sink

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or use it as a case fan like he said

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you might get 5c hotter but still not bad considering the highest temp ive seen it it go is 68 c with 2 fans

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with a 5800x

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but i also did not use thermal paste it came with so i dont know how high it gets with included thermal paste probably not that much of a difference

abstract kite
#

OhI see thx

fleet canopy
#

I found the best deal for a 3070

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160,000$ with FREE SHIPPING

cinder crypt
#

free shipping no way thats a steal

viral geode
#

I'll beat that offer and sell you a 3070 for 100,000 free shipping

fleet canopy
#

Damn I'll take it

dry hollow
#

looks like its 100 3070's. must have gotten them from that stolen msi pallet

opal herald
#

how do i know if i need ot up grade my poweer supply??

viral geode
#

Whatchu got?

viral geode
#

If you've got anything above 750 you're fine

fleet canopy
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Eh, not necessarily

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Well yeah

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But I usually upgrade my PSU depending on the power of GPU and CPU

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Then have at least 150W with a gold certification

hasty prawn
#

@opal herald when your pc starts crashing or acting weird after adding new components that have a higher power draw. A GPU/GPU'S would be a likely culprit of this. They even have different power requirements within the same range a good example would be the standard nvidia cards compared to the third party ones. The standard 3080ti has a tdp of 350watts my msi suprim is 400watts I used a 650 watt psu on my 3070 not a chance I would use that on my 3080ti even though the highest number I have seen on my psu screen is 630watts I would rather have headroom than it being fully maxed out. If you just use your pc for games you will not need more than a 850watt for now even a 750w would be more than enough in most systems but that will change in future gen cards as I have read the 40 series 4090 will have 450 tdp to which 850w psu would become the norm.

cinder crypt
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well good thing i decided to get a 850

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even though i currently have a 2070 i wanted a bigger psu incase i wanted to upgrade

hasty prawn
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@cinder crypt Its definitely better to get one higher than you need as a PSU is probably the only part of a pc you can actually future proof I have a platinum rated 850w ASUS THOR I really like it as it has a screen on that shows live power draw which is handy. I have a friend who has a 1000w PSU he acknowledges its overkill but he never has to think about TDP for along time. It is always best to buy the best PSU you can as there is no point spending loads on pc parts to cheap out on a PSU that could potentially kill all your parts.

viral geode
#

coughs gigabyte cough

opal herald
cinder crypt
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cause if i got a 3000 series card i still have like 300 watts free

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so plenty of breathing room it is a gold standard psu from corsair but ive heard good things about it

fleet canopy
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850W gold cert is perfectly fine

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Esp considering today’s components and PCs drawing enough power to consider having a 850W

hasty prawn
#

@fleet canopy I was thinking the other day how much power will they max out at before they start going backwards and making them require less. I think even 400 watts for a GPU alone is a lot I regularly see it at 380 in geforce overlay. It got me thinking what point would it get to where it's a waste of money if you use a PC just for gaming and it would be more cost effective and better to get a console. The Ps5 is at 350 watt now too I think.

fleet canopy
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The entire PS5 wattage compared to a GPU’s watt usage? Hm.

merry bay
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Most people at the high end would rather have a power hog that can offer more performance. There's still a lot of unreached milestones to fulfil even for older titles.

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The waste of money part is very dependant on personal performance targets where you'd feel it's smooth enough to enjoy. Extremely subjective matter. Some can reach that point without a high end GPU, some can opt for a more efficient GPU as a middle ground and compromise on a few more settings.

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And there's also an argument for rarely playing AAA games or stuff that really pushes your hardware, just to be ready for the odd time you want to indulge. Hardly ever pushing the power usage high.

hasty prawn
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I think naturally consoles will follow, the next PlayStation will probably exceed 400watts. For me I only use my ps5 for exclusives you are right thought it is certainly personal preference I still think my pc is far superior to my ps5 in everyway I mean it has a r 5950x and a 3080ti sitting on 64gb of ram NOT THAT IT MATTERED TO WINDOWS 11 i had to reinstall 10 I am going to wait 6 months at least before i go back to 11 lol. I think the next step up would either be the new intel or a threadripper but yes what you need and want are two very different things. I should be good as far as AAA games go for the next few years I would rather part ex my gpu when the time comes and buy another rather than start to turn settings down but other than ride a motorbike and look after lizards I hardly have a wide selections of things I am into. If I can get 140fps I am usually happy with that but I wonder if I can really tell the difference I am waiting for a decent 34 inch uw 4k monitor so i can really push it. My friend hates curved and ultra wide though he prefers 27 inch. I also like the freedom a pc gives me plus the fun of building it yourself and all the new stuff. I am already thinking of the next build I got my eyes on the custom loop market but also I am looking out for a gpu with a hybrid cooler too I will wait and see if one is more available next gen. I have found the pc community to not be toxic than the console one as well maybe its maturity.

ocean ivy
#

Does gtfo work on macs

merry bay
#

I wouldn't rush to next gen stuff either. Not just because of prices and having to swap out everything, but because it's very unclear if Intel will be thorough or quick to fix up software compatibility issues that come with their new architecture. They gave a mostly consistent and predictable experience for years thanks to their lack of innovation. They didn't make any major changes, just squeezed out more out of their existing design.

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Some of those issues aren't even dependant on Intel, and has to be handled by devs.
e. x. game DRM
Saw an article earlier for Denuvo requiring manual patching to enable Alder Lake support (the little cores are seen as an anomalous hacking attempt currently)
Older games are a lot less likely to get that patch. In which case legal copies simply wouldn't run.

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The thing isn't even out yet, who knows what misbehaviors will be unearthed soon. And who knows how long it will take to iron out fully. I value system reliability and stability, so dealing with early adopter issues isn't my cup of tea.

fleet canopy
hasty prawn
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@fleet canopy I probably will tbh as I like windows 11

fleet canopy
#

Yeah it looks pretty nice

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Seems like a good improvement over windows 10 in some ways so that’s nice

void perch
keen wigeon
deft vine
limpid temple
#

@barren wadi @ornate sparrow so some time later i have switched to single channel mode on ram slots and that worked for a bit but then crashed, so then i updated literally everything i could, and it still crashed and then a good 2 somethin weeks later it just doesnt do it anymore

ionic oak
#

Is 96gb of DDR4 3400 ram good enough? to run this game?

cinder crypt
#

nah you need 540 gbs of ram

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max out what windows will allow

velvet sage
#

need at least 420

torn ferry
#

Can anyone help me resolve why is there a vibrating/humming/buzzing noise that is off and on at inconsistent times?

torn ferry
#

Will I ever have to clean the AIO radiator at some point?

hasty prawn
#

I'm shivering already

torn ferry
#

How difficult was getting those Lian-Li cables connected?

fleet canopy
hasty prawn
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A lot easier than it is getting 3 triple 8s into a GPU lol

fleet canopy
#

Despite it being cold outside, it is fucking hot inside my room

torn ferry
#

I bought some intending to use them for my build but I could not get them to stay connected or bend them far enough to get to the cable grommets.

hasty prawn
#

How big is your case ? This case is quite big. I know in my mid tower I could only fit the 24 pin as the GPU one would stop my glass closing

torn ferry
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So I gave up because I was going to die of old age before I could get the cables connected.

hasty prawn
#

They can be annoying but tbh this case is large enough for them it would all depend on your case though. Is your GPU the double or triple ?

torn ferry
#

I have no idea what double or triple means.

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I've built the computer and I have not cleaned it yet, and I'm scared to start dismantling everything again to clean it.

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I had severe anxiety putting everything together and I was scared I was going to break something unknowingly.

hasty prawn
#

Does it have 2 8 pin or 3

torn ferry
#

I see a 6 pin and an 8 pin.

hasty prawn
#

What GPU is it ? I wouldn't be scared I took my to bits without even knowing what stuff was that's how I figured it all out.

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Not this one I built this once I knew lol

torn ferry
#

MSI Ventus OC RTX 2080.

hasty prawn
#

Yer it's the double did you try the GPU lead going upwards ? I had to go down as it wouldn't fit upwards even in this

torn ferry
#

My case is the O11 Dynamic XL.

hasty prawn
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I'm not sure how big the 2080 is but this one is really big and it can be akward and it should fit in that tbh. I have the Corsair 7000D I do t think there is much difference in size. I think I was looking at the Lian li first tbh

torn ferry
#

I don't know what to start with when cleaning the internals.

hasty prawn
#

Take it all out clean it put it all back

torn ferry
#

I'm scared to do that.

hasty prawn
#

Why

torn ferry
#

My building experience didn't go well for me at all.

hasty prawn
#

Lol I have Asperger's and ADHD . You're talking to someone who got thermal paste in the CPU socket then flooded it with alcohol then blasted his CPU with a hair dryer then an air condition unit then a hair dryer again lol

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Don't be scared

torn ferry
#

First time I built the computer, I found after finishing it that the motherboard was defective and I needed to start all over again, wait for the new motherboard, then put everything back together again.

hasty prawn
#

Oh I also used a toothbrush on it that a used one lol 😉

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I sucked off the speaker with a Hoover too lol

torn ferry
#

My graphics card comes from a shitty prebuilt from Best Buy, and I carelessly ripped it out of that system and put it in this one.

hasty prawn
#

Haha yer I did that with this one I have when I was switching it to my new case as the board wouldn't let me have it back. This card was £1600 I took my 3070 in to cex in a plastic bag and basically through it on the counter lol

#

Unless you're being really rough you should be fine

torn ferry
#

And I no longer really have any friends who can help me with computer building or dismantling, so I just feel like I'm alone on this one.

hasty prawn
#

It's not as hard as it looks it's actually really simple

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When I first did it I unplugged stuff then followed the old cables with the new ones

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First time I added an exhaust fan it took me about 3 hours as there was 3 ARGB fans on the front and 2 on the roof and I had no idea what wire was what

#

Join pcmr they will help you if you get stuck

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That was the pc I took to bits

torn ferry
#

I hope I can get the PS5 this year.

hasty prawn
#

Don't bother

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Wait till next year there is literally nothing out for it that's worth the effort

hasty prawn
void perch
viral geode
#

Damn

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Understand understand

lilac obsidian
# void perch

what you rocking under the icegiant? looks clean as hell

void perch
#

Just a threadripper

viral geode
#

Damn

lilac obsidian
#

Also noctua master race yee

barren wadi
#

booba icegiant

fleet canopy
# hasty prawn

Congratulations, you’ve redefined the definition of RGBarf

fleet canopy
viral geode
#

What the fuck is this

fleet canopy
#

Sata m.2 2242 1TB dogfish ngiff inter

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It’s smaller because it is

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I believe the standard is 2280?

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It’s just a shorter version

hasty prawn
#

@fleet canopy oh there are soo many more RGB settings on that signal RGB I am going to go through it properly lol

void perch
#

inside a virtualized disk

hasty prawn
#

@void perch is this a new build ? Is that a suprim if so which is it. If it's the 3090 -3080 can you let me know what your thermals are like I have the 3080ti suprim and unless I have the fans at above 70% it will go right over 80c very quickly. I want to rule out lack of thermal paste/pads etc as I have seen a few people have issues with the a lot of 3080ti cards some have even found latex gloves inside. Cool threadripper btw there is a 5000 series one out in 2022 I hear.

void perch
#

I'll probably make a build for that one too 🙂

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It'll be a while before I can do full benchmarks and temps and the GPU won't be directly used. Proxmox virtualization environment is sitting on top of the hardware, then making VM's which will be used for tasking things like our build pipelines.

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3990x
256GB RAM
WD SN850's
3090 Suprim

fleet canopy
hasty prawn
#

I settled on the watercolor effect it's not intense and it uses all the colours.

viral geode
#

Damn that sit could get to at least round 60 in risk of rain 2

viral geode
#

Wahoo my new vengeance 3200 got here with my Samsung 970 evo 2tb. It's a good day

cinder crypt
#

@viral geode which vengeance did you get?

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pro,sl,rt or the other ones cant remember

viral geode
cinder crypt
#

ah

viral geode
#

Just needed faster memory. Nothin fancy. But I'm seeing serious gain considering my old modules were 2133

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Or at least I don't know if it's fancy

cinder crypt
#

mine were 2300

viral geode
#

I don't know my ram that well

cinder crypt
#

and only 16 gbs and a offbrand

viral geode
cinder crypt
viral geode
#

My old dimms

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Ooo nice

#

I didn't go for RGB because I'm not a fan

cinder crypt
viral geode
#

Also got this

cinder crypt
#

i got the wd 850

viral geode
#

Dope. I don't know my memory or storage well so I can't tell what's pinky up and what's not

cinder crypt
#

samsung and wd are both good

viral geode
#

Neat. My memory good too? I really just saw frequency and bought it

cinder crypt
#

uhh

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i dont know it looks like its optimized for intel

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which i didnt do research on ram optimized for intel

viral geode
#

I was told everything works well enough that it doesn't make much difference

cinder crypt
#

it shouldn't

viral geode
#

I'm running AMD and I saw a massive boost to just about anything

#

Cyberpunk actually runs worth a damn now

#

While cranked to Max. Used to only get like 30, now I'm getting upwards of 80

#

With dlss of course but that's much better than 30-40 with dlss

cinder crypt
#

yea i built my new pc and my old ones problem was not enough airflow

#

my new one has enough

fleet canopy
#

Optimization for intel and amd is just marketing shit

#

RAM is RAM, and they all perform the same usually assuming we’re not including overclocking, what die it uses

viral geode
#

It's fucking beautiful what fast ram can do

#

I never knew it could be that Cruxial

#

I'll see myself out

merry bay
#

Going higher than 3200Mhz Intel is more likely to be stable out of the box. But it also heavily deoends on your CPU chip quality for either AMD or Intel

#

An anecdote from friends, all 3 people bought 3600Mhz kits, none stable on their 5600X
Had to downclock(not comfortable adding voltage instead)

#

I assume they just got unlucky either with the RAM bin or their CPU

#

Could be a motherboard issue too tbh. 4 layer PCB's have worse signal integrity than 6 layer ones so that might've been it as well.

#

High end RAM can be a headache moon2W

barren wadi
#

i used 5600x with 4 sticks of 8gb 3600cl18 that i got timings down to cl16

barren wadi
viral geode
#

What's funny about my old dimms is I wasn't able to find em online anywhere

#

Like they just didn't exist or were something so off brand it would be buried in page like 800 of google

fleet canopy
#

I was shitting around looking for monitors I'd never actually buy

#

I don't know if the retail is actual real price, but it's 51% off

#

From 900-100% to 450$

glad prawn
fleet canopy
#

Yeah that's understandable, but it's not bad for anyone who already has a good PC to run this stuff pretty well, and at 450$, it might be close to the cheapest option while having pretty good performance for it

fleet canopy
#

yes

torn ferry
#

Is there even any advantage for running games beyond 60 frames?

bright shard
torn ferry
#

Games like this one.

bright shard
#

yes, but i wouldnt say the pace of the game benefits past 120hz

#

of course, when you're knee deep in sleeper ragdolls, basically any but the best gpu is going to crater you into the low 60s or lower.

torn ferry
#

I always lock all games to 60 frames because I guess in my logic, I don't want my computer to overheat itself from overworking.

bright shard
#

ultimately it should be an informed decision about what your cooling is like, what gpu you have, and the maximum hz your monitor supports.

#

if your monitor only supports 60hz, youll gain absolutely nothing going over 60 fps.

torn ferry
#

But what is it I am gaining if my monitor is 165hz?

#

And I decide to run a game beyond 60 frames?

bright shard
#

then you'll notice a significant difference.

torn ferry
#

In performance or aesthetic wise?

bright shard
#

the game will look nicer, and will be easier (cognitively) to play.

#

however, the higher the fps goal, and depending on your settings and hardware will dictate what fps target youll be able to hit

#

of course, running at 120 fps vs 60 fps means generally twice the graphical load on the gpu.

torn ferry
#

Is it difficult to overheat the processor or graphics card?

bright shard
#

what do you play on?

torn ferry
#

What do you mean?

bright shard
#

do you play on a desktop or a laptop?

torn ferry
#

Desktop.

bright shard
#

its harder to overheat the gpu/cpu on a desktop

#

but if you can check/graph your temps while gaming using MSI afterburner

#

you can watch your temps in real time

#

hot is generally considered above 75c

torn ferry
#

What actually happens when it starts overheating?

bright shard
#

1: potential throttling of speeds/ your performance will crater.

#
  1. increase on the wear of the silicon on the cards.
#

of course, 2 depends on how hot the card is.

#

danger zone is usually 77c or higher.

#

sometimes, the PC will bluescreen

torn ferry
#

What typically causes leaks within the AIO tubes?

bright shard
#

if an AIO is leaking, its damaged

torn ferry
#

I have a nightmare that one day one of the AIO tubes will spontaneous break open and then start leaking fluid everywhere.

bright shard
#

sometimes using the wrong screws on a rad will fuck things up, and has happened.

#

generally, an AIO is stable throughout its lifespan

#

losing fluid to the osmotic properties of the tubes and system itself.

#

all AIOs will eventually fail

#

but the lifespan is generally around the lifespan of the pc

torn ferry
#

What is the longest any system can last for given it is cleaned and given maintenance when needed?

bright shard
#

for as long as you can find replacement parts

#

ime, the limiting factor on how long a PC may be maintained, depends on the life of the motherboard

torn ferry
#

When I built this system,

#

My first motherboard was defective, so I had to get a new one.

#

On the defective motherboard, the system would only boot if the RAM was in single channel.

bright shard
#

yep, thats a defective mobo.

torn ferry
#

I in general had tons of anxiety when I was building this system.

bright shard
#

but thats rarely a defect that manifests over time, more like a factory issue.

#

well, i had some anxiety at first too, but it will fade over time.

torn ferry
#

And the 24 pin cable was such a pain to plug in.

bright shard
#

the best thing you can do is, know that you built it, if something breaks, you'll likely be able to replace it.

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yeah, the 24 pin is sometimes a struggle.

torn ferry
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And with the motherboard, I guess I made the mistake of paying for the ASUS ROG luxury tax.

bright shard
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they're not bad boards.

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if anything id say the two components of a pc you probably shouldnt cheap out on are the CPU and motherboard.

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aside from bargain bin psus

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(given that your psu is appropriate wattage)

torn ferry
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I also tried to build it during when the pandemic began affecting part stock.

bright shard
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the part stock is still bad.

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there is no "was", really.

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but ill tell you, 3 years ago, GPUs were still slim pickings.

torn ferry
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Will the part stock problems eventually get better or will it forever be like this?

bright shard
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thats a complicated question

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ill try to summarize

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probably not for another 3-6 years.

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covid threw a wrench into the already struggling silicon supply chain

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even more things require silicon chips to function, even compared to 4 years ago.

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you can see this even in the auto industry

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where the supply of vehicles is primarily bottlenecked by the lack of chips.

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GM has fleets of non-consumer ready cars waiting for chips.

torn ferry
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Are power supplies still the largest shortage of parts?

bright shard
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i dont think they ever were

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if anything i'd say that still goes to CPUs and GPUs

fleet canopy
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The benefit for going past 60Hz is that you’ll see things appear quicker, and the time between one frame to another is shortened a lot when comparing 60Hz to 120-144Hz

viral geode
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I used to think "at least 30 and I'm happy" until I got used to 60

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I can't go back

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It infuriates me when games have a frame cap of 30 during cutscenes like Forza horizon 4 and destiny

hasty prawn
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@torn ferry tbh if you're going to lock it to 60 fps you may as well save money and just get a console as far as overheating I dont know how that idea made its way into your head but as long as you have adequate cooling it wont overheat and even if it did your pc would likely just reboot. I can easily hit 70-80c on my cpu depending on what I am doing I think ryzen are designed to be running normally up to 95c or something also depending on what gpu you have, resolution you use or game you're playing your cpu may not even but fully utilised. If you are playing 1440p or above you will like be GPU bound anyway I usually play at 160hz but as long as I am above 100 I don't really care and I would always say get the best psu you can no point in spending loads on pc parts to cheap out on a psu that could potentially fry everything.

viral geode
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coughs gigabyte coughs

hasty prawn
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@viral geode I have a x570 aorus master but after seeing people having issues with gig customer service I am glad that's all I spent with them. The moment asus make a mobo with 3 nvme slots ill be going back lol

viral geode
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Thought Asus makes an x570. tbh if I knew my mobos better I would have gotten an x570 over a b550

barren wadi
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b550 chipset has better ram compatibility

viral geode
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Fair nuff but I watched jayz video on the differences and I'm not sure which is really better

dry hollow
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I'd only go for 570 if you need the additional pcie 4.0 bandwidth

viral geode
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Fair nuff

dry hollow
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Or if you have a pcie card that hates being connected to the chipset

viral geode
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I don't seem to have any issues with it so I guess I'm fine

barren wadi
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you're fine with a b550 if u dont use alot of pcie lanes

hasty prawn
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@viral geode Asus does make the x570 chipset they have a few of them but only one as far as I know has 3 nvme ssd slots which is the new creator board.

barren wadi
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they have their dimm.2

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5 m.2 support

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asus rog crosshair 8 extreme @hasty prawn

hasty prawn
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@barren wadiI was looking at those and the aorus extreme too £700 here for the extreme 8 E-ATX will make using my lian li cables tricky though i think as they are tight with a A TX board so I am holding out for an ATX 3+m.2 although if one isn't released by end of next year I may just sell my current and take the plunge and sell the lian li to my friend.

barren wadi
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probably impossible to find an standard atx with more than 3 m.2 unless u use pcie adapters

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or some company decides to put them on the back of the board

hasty prawn
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@barren wadi I only want 3 as i have 3 ssd's I wouldn't need more than 3 as i am not getting anymore

dry hollow
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Buying pcie adapters would probably be the most cost effective option

hasty prawn
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my aorus master has 3 m.2 slots so ill just stick with that till asus make one lol

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plus it has dual bios which is always handy so it would need that too lol

dry hollow
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Dual bios needs to be a standard feature on all boards

hasty prawn
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@dry hollow I agree its a huge peace of mind knowing if anything goes wrong I can just flip the switch and reflash. tbh the Aorus master is a decent board its just the bad experience people are having with customer service that's making me want to move away. I am glad I didn't get the gigabyte 3080ti I was looking at and went with the suprim.

torn ferry
dry hollow
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You're not going to break anything by uncapping it

bright shard
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kale is right tbh.

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just keep an eye on temps and you should have no problem.

fleet canopy
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Or ignore it too I guess

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There’s literally no risks to having more than 60FPS/Hz

hasty prawn
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@torn ferry I would just cap it to your monitors maximum refresh rate if it worries you that much do it in the geforce settings not in the game ones. Honestly though you're CPU/GPU would throttle it's self or even a total system reboot would happen before you broke anything unless you changed it in the settings which I doubt you have. What cpu, gpu and Cooler so you have?

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What resolution do you play in too 1080, 1440, 3840, 5120 or 7680 ?

torn ferry
hasty prawn
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@torn ferry Unless you have put the thermal paste on wrong [which you would already be aware of by now] overheating isn't going to be a thing. 1440p you're more GPU bound than CPU use Geoforce overlay to track your temp if you want but id be surprised if you overheat. I have a msi suprim 3080ti and a ryzen 5950x and I have my fans set low so its quiet and I only really notice thermals on the GPU which is normal stop restricting your system and enjoy its ability.

torn ferry
hasty prawn
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@torn ferry they are cooling your system to a pre set curve the percentage they run at will be tied to a temperature so say 60c/40% which means when you're temp hits 60c on say the cpu then the fan tied to it will run at 40% speed

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my curve

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@torn ferry what motherboard do you have ?

torn ferry
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Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Pro Wifi.

hasty prawn
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use the app centre and get the siv

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That will tell you most that you need to know

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you can even use the system alert to keep eye on temps if you get overly paranoid about it.

viral geode
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I say just send it bro

torn ferry
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And there's also this weird buzzing noise that I don't know how to describe. It is off and on and inconsistent.

viral geode
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Prolly fan coil whine

torn ferry
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It sounds like if you held an object to one of the fans to stop it from spinning, but I do not see any signs of that. No wires touching the fan blades, all screws are secure.

viral geode
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Couldn't tell ya then.

hasty prawn
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It's coil whine and it's cause of stupid driver updates. It could be coming from the card or mobo. My GPU started doing it after the September geforce update I think they increased power in it or something. I got one from my mobo since my windows 11 bios update too it's nothing to fear just really annoying.

fleet canopy
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How does a coil whine happen from a GPU driver update?

hasty prawn
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@fleet canopy when an increase of power is in the driver

fleet canopy
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Oh probably I guess

hasty prawn
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@fleet canopy the September driver is what did it for me sadly rolling back wont change it. My friends 2060 couldn't even play games there was loads of people in the nvidia discord channel complaining about issues after that driver. Obviously driver updates are not the only cause of them but its almost always due to current going through stuff making it vibrate its mostly under high load it does go away after a while or you become deaf to it lol.

torn ferry
#

Is it not safe to use a handheld vacuum to clean a computer due to static electricity?

bright shard
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i use my wall-outlet vac, and its fine imo.

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HOWEVER

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i think the hand blowers are more effective tbh.

torn ferry
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Other than obviously, water or any moisture that doesn't evaporate quickly, what is not recommended to use?

bright shard
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canned air is not recommended

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buy a hand blower.

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anything less than 90% isopropyl

torn ferry
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Is compressed air not recommended because you have to hold it upright or else it sprays out the foam stuff?

fleet canopy
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I think it’s because it’s not actually air

bright shard
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its because compressed air sucks dog bollocks

fleet canopy
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Yeah tbf

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I used one before, ran out really fucking fast

torn ferry
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Bare minimum, how often should the internals be cleaned?

bright shard
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compressed air is almost more useful upside-down, than rightside up.

fleet canopy
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Depends. If you usually keep your place clean, then like maybe 3 months

bright shard
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do you have front fan filters?

torn ferry
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My case is the O11 Dynamic XL.

bright shard
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is that a yes?

torn ferry
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I don't think so?

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The top and bottom fans have filters.

fleet canopy
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Eh just clean it once a month

torn ferry
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Should I unplug everything before cleaning it?

fleet canopy
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Just turn off the power supply and unplug the power supply from power socket and you’re good to go on blowing it all away

bright shard
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are you using side-fans on the case?

torn ferry
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Yes.

bright shard
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do they have filters?

torn ferry
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No.

bright shard
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every 1-2 months in the summer, every 2-3 months in the winter.

torn ferry
#

Why is winter a longer interval?

fleet canopy
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More cooler

bright shard
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if fans are temp controlled, they run slower and attract less dust.

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if the side fans had filters, i would say +1 to number of months between cleanings.

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if a computer has sat idle for 4-8 months ill usually give it a quick dusting before turning it on.

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but, from a guy that has the experience with cleaning PCs, buy a hand blower. Like legit.

torn ferry
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I also had to move the desktop in such a way so my cats would stop sleeping on top of it while it was turned on.

bright shard
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you dont do the "put loud things on top of the pc case"?

torn ferry
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What?

bright shard
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like the classic anti-cat objects

torn ferry
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No.

bright shard
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is the pc in a room with carpet?

torn ferry
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Yes.

bright shard
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-15 days.

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try to buy fan filters for the side fans.

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just the cat+carpet thing is just

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dust factory.

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do you smoke in your pc room?

torn ferry
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I don't smoke.

bright shard
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ok. good.

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cause if that was the case, it would be cleaning like every 2 weeks.

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believe me. nasty.

torn ferry
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What does smoking do that makes it worse for the computer?

bright shard
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i'd post the images, but i dont want a warning.

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its nasty. just google it.

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like, the tar from the cigs combine with the dust

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and you get this brown gloopy unblowable dust

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and the smell.

still flare
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smoke has tar in it and is in the smoke so the tar will coar things. Inside the computer it will coat the fans and the chips and can cause extra heat in your computer

bright shard
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regular ish consumer grade dust is grey and homogeneous

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but yeah, fan filters are dirt cheap on amazon and are worth every penny tbh

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esp if you have shedding pets

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and carpets.

merry bay
#

bought a used mobo cpu combo from a smoker. was a hefty chore to clean, nasty.
for some reason he reseated the cpu it seems, because found that brown crap inside the socket later

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CPU was on its last legs, prob OC'd and uncleaned for years, can't even hold baseclock stable.
also came with a 212 evo that has rust spots
aren't ebay auctions wonderful?

bright shard
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Must have smelled like a mobo formed from the spirits of 13 dead cubans

torn ferry
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Can you even clean the dust from a smoker's computer?

bright shard
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unlikely

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but anything is possible with the right determination

bright shard
#

tfw room is too cold, so printer spits out thermal runaway warning.

deft vine
torn ferry
#

I was terrified when I first had to wipe the thermal paste off of the processor when the motherboard I ordered was defective.

deft vine
#

Fair 'nuff.

hasty prawn
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lol and there I was ripping my cpu out of its socket because it got vacuum sealed to the bottom of my AIO because I added too much thermal paste I even got thermal paste in the socket. Nothing a lot of alcohol a hair dryer and an AC unit and time couldn't fix lol

lilac geyser
fleet canopy
#

For a video it sure doesn’t deserve a 0 to 2 like ratio

viral geode
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You are gay If you use rainbow puke

fleet canopy
abstract kite
#

anyone got any clue on how long does it take for AIB gpus to be manufactured? lets say gigabyte which sends 5x1, aka 5 gpus in one pack to the distribution center?

barren wadi
#

given the current circumstances theres probably no schedule to it

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every retailer is trying to get their hands on them

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with manufacturers scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of inventory

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i might also be entirely wrong GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

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but thats how i feel about this

void perch
#

dat VRAM

fleet canopy
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Ok stop flexing

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:)

abstract kite
#

i missed the last shipment of rtx 3070s, which was this week.. and the main distributor manager told me he has no idea when is the next shipment

barren wadi
void perch
#

noice

barren wadi
# void perch noice

was suppose to only be a 3070/3080 but shops only had 90s so i picked one up instead for 1.6k usd early on in the year kekw

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honestly the best decision i've ever made

barren wadi
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good luck GWvertiPeepoSalute

abstract kite
#

i just screwed up and didnt say i was buying via firm

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and the guy let them go trough to the reseller stores

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:/

late sorrel
#

not enough rgb

fleet canopy
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Understandable

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Get a lot of rgb strips

fleet canopy
abstract kite
#

3080TI > 3090 imo

fleet canopy
#

But what if you're using a GPU for rendering or just need the extra power

abstract kite
#

in terms of power, 3080TI should be almost on par with the 3090

fleet canopy
#

Rendering his 20TB of movies in RTX 3d

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I think the similarity is just for gaming

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But idk

abstract kite
fleet canopy
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Well it is the Ti version

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Sooo

abstract kite
#

i actually agree on that.

fleet canopy
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Well you save 700$, 50W of power

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Assuming we'd use MSRP

#

So anyway I decided to check back to my list, change up some things a bit, like the CPU since I was gonna go for a 5900X and decided now that it was just a dumb idea

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Is there anything I should change?

late sorrel
#

a) why two aio’s?
b) why an aio?

fleet canopy
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Two aio for choice

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And plus, this list is at least

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uh

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idk how old

late sorrel
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ah okay

i mean like, isn’t it basically the same as air cooling or am i out of the loop?

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(get it?)

fleet canopy
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Well I get it now

late sorrel
#

just kidding around <3

fleet canopy
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It's okay lol

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But yeah I should prob stick with air cooling

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I wanted to go for AIO for looks n all

late sorrel
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i mean from my out of the current pc tech loop, it looks good. i’d just stick air cooling in, but that’s my opinion

cinder crypt
#

thinking about getting a 3070 ti

ornate sparrow
barren wadi
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get the meshify 2 compact instead of the c

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more gpu space and u could probably fit a 280aio instead of a 240

fleet canopy
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So when I actually do get around to thinking of getting a monitor at the current moment, I can find what I wanted on the list

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Same thing for the coolers, a choice to get

fleet canopy
barren wadi
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yah i said get the m2copact

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its overall better than mesh c

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cleaning the front filter is a pain on the mesh c

fleet canopy
#

Yeah I checked and it's like 25 to 45mm longer

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Pretty neat

barren wadi
#

its also a nylon? removable front filter instead of a stupid metal mesh+foam filter on the C

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i got the meshC few weeks before m2compact came out

fleet canopy
#

lol damn

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Talking to mirrors and was thinking probably would be okay to just go air cooling still I guess

barren wadi
#

why get bionix just get their normal arctic p12/14s

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p12s also have rgb now

fleet canopy
#

Bionx has better airflow from what I see but I guess that doesn't matter too much

barren wadi
#

iirc same blade design just gamer frame

#

gamer WICKED

fleet canopy
#

gamer

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I gotta\

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I have no clue if getting a motherboard like this one will mean that OCing the RAM will be better than last time where it wouldn't really OC at all

barren wadi
#

depends on what die u get

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sam b-die and well binned hynix can oc far

fleet canopy
#

I got bdie yes

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Either I really suck, or the motherboard is just not a good choice for OCing

loud lotus
#

Best pc build ever?

fleet canopy
#

yes

barren wadi
#

sub timings? clock?

fleet canopy
#

Following an OC guide

barren wadi
#

use dram calc for ryzen

fleet canopy
#

This I use

#

But I fail

vivid pilot
#

What do you think the problem with my computer is if the game crashes not when I startup but when I’m going down the elevator after starting a match?

#

Just curious on peoples ideas

#

Cause a lot of my games have been crashing on startup and GTFO won’t let me get past going down into the depths now

lilac obsidian
late sorrel
#

if you post it i can have a look through it for you if you’d prefer

vivid pilot
#

I’ll do it later cause I’m preparing for Halloween but thank you

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I’ll do it later tonight or tomorrow

torn ferry
#

What are normal temperatures for the processor under load?

merry bay
#

what's your cpu?
what's your cooler?
voltages? frequency? auto settings vary per motherboard so it's never straightforward

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if you're under 80C on air with a full load, you're doing great

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it's not a firm rule, there's leeway depending on what you care about