#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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cinder crypt
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I dont know about liquid ones never messed with them dont know how hard it is to keep them maintained

fleet canopy
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AIOs are easy

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They don't require much work at all, just follow a video as it's really easy

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Customs are just more expensive and actually requires more maintenance

cinder crypt
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Do you use an AIO

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I'm just trying to figure if I want to cause it might eventually leak

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And I dont want it to leak on my components

fleet canopy
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I think an AIO leaking would be pretty rare, unless the AIO was damaged in some way

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Which is also not that common

cinder crypt
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So a AIO should last a long time with out issue?

fleet canopy
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Yeah, should be like that

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There is a Shadow Rock 3, performance was apparently like the Dark Rock Pro 4, which is like a top tier air cooler I guess

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maybe a little wrong

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But for 50$~ it's not bad I guess, 30$ less than a DRP4

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I'm not so smart on the AIOs because I never actually looked and got one for myself

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So just go to Gamers Nexus for reviews on these, they're going to have them most of the time

cinder crypt
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Yea I think im just gonna get a air cooler

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I looked up videos

fleet canopy
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yeah good air coolers can do good when compared to AIOs

cinder crypt
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Any good air cooler recommendations?

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There's this one but

fleet canopy
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Shadow Rock 3, as I've said, pretty good

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There's a Hyper 212 Evo which is dirt cheap but really great

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I checked if it does well with 5800X, it should be able to if you're not gonna mess around with OC settings

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It's pretty much a stock cooler in a way for Intel because intel gives crap coolers

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But overall it's a great cooler unless you were to go for higher end coolers like a 5900X and higher

cinder crypt
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Nah I think ryzen 9 is overkill

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Ryzen 7 is a good In between

fleet canopy
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I know, I'm just saying Hyper 212 doesn't work well with an i9/R9 that well, and does alright with everything else

cinder crypt
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I might just go with it it looks ugly as hell

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But apparently it gets the job done and is quiet

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People were saying under stress tests it only went up to 65c and idle was 28

ornate sparrow
ornate sparrow
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NH-D15 is one of the top air coolers on the market, but make sure you have room for it in your case

fleet canopy
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There is an NH-D15s something, it's probably a smaller version

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But I would expect same performance

barren wadi
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the U14 is a single tower cooler i think

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if i got the name right tinkin

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there have been 212 competitors showing up everywhere and some are even better for the same price

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arctic freezer 34

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arctic makes great fans with similar performance to noctua's for a fraction of the price

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or theres thermaltake's new fans which are carbon copies of noctuas design

dry hollow
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Fuma 2 is a good air cooler if you're looking at something that can compete with 280mm aio's

ornate sparrow
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D14 is a single D15 tower, D15S is a high-compatibility version. It shifts the cooler towers up to make room for a GPU in the top slot

barren wadi
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d14 is double towers

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u12, u14 are single towers

ornate sparrow
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gotcha

viral geode
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I love my NH-D15 for my rizen 9 3900x

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Keeps it nice and cool

steep monolith
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I think my pc is officially dead

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I did an redeon update for my gpu and now the monitors can't detect any fucking input anymore

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Awesome

barren wadi
steep monolith
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Any fucking advice?

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I can't buy a new one

dry hollow
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Its not dead, probably just need to reinstall the driver

steep monolith
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The thing is I have no screen

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Not at all

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I can't see shit

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It just says no input detectet

bright shard
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can use dvi?

steep monolith
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No

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I m using hdmi

ornate sparrow
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any Motherboard graphics output?

steep monolith
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Nope

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It only has hdmi output

ornate sparrow
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are you using it?

steep monolith
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No?

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But I tried it same thing

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No input

ornate sparrow
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if the hdmi output on the gpu and motherboard dont work, it isnt a gpu issue

bright shard
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can you get into bios?

steep monolith
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Uh

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It's a driver issue

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I did a update on my redeon

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And then the monitors didn't work anymore

ornate sparrow
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what card specifically?

steep monolith
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Rx 580

fleet canopy
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Maybe you could use a second monitor? See if that works

steep monolith
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I m using 2 by standard

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Both use hdmi

bright shard
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if you cant get into bios or safe mode you are SOL

steep monolith
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Sol?

bright shard
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shit outa luck.

steep monolith
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Ah

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Well

ornate sparrow
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maybe get a cheapo gpu off ebay for long enough to reinstall drivers?

steep monolith
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The thing is and it's fucking stupid of me

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I have a motherboard that does not support my cpu

ornate sparrow
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what

steep monolith
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Short I can't enter bios

ornate sparrow
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what mobo/cpu

steep monolith
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Ryzen 5 2600

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B550

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Msi meg

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It supports cpu's at 5th generation

ornate sparrow
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B550 supports 3-5000

steep monolith
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I have 5 2600

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It's definitely not supporting it

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I still have a B450 steel legend around but I don't really wanna rebuild my whole pc

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It took 2 days

steep monolith
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Btw if it's a driver issue

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I m gonna get my SSD cards to my workplace and just make a fresh win 10 on them

bright shard
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if you have a flash drive, you could try putting linux on it, booting into it and wiping the SSD.

steep monolith
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I dont

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I can't boot

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The CPU ain't supportet

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Boot menu won't open

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Same as bios

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Yes me dumb dumb

bright shard
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if the driver was installed on windows, just disconnect the SSD to default to the flash drive

steep monolith
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What

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I have a win10 boot stick

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But it won't work

bright shard
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oh.

steep monolith
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I have no screen input

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I can't see shit

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Good that I am working with pc as my job

bright shard
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yeah. if the SSD with windows is disconnected, and you still cant get output, something else is wrong.

steep monolith
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The software of the rx 580 is maybe broken

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I did a update on it

bright shard
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if you did a bios update on the card that may have broke something.

steep monolith
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And then the stuff happend

steep monolith
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But how do I fix it?

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I have no internal grafics chip

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I can try the pc's at work

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But well

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Ugh it's gonna be hard to fix it

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I don't think that I still have warrenty

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Suffering

ornate sparrow
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Does anything turn on when you turn the pc on? fans, lights, etc?

barren wadi
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kekw

calm mulch
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he’s a menace

fleet canopy
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snek

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boopa the snek

calm mulch
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he no like head boops

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but he does enjoy being a maniac

fleet canopy
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noooo

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not the car : ((

cinder crypt
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I heard its pretty good

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For a ryzen 7 5800x

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Also yea I got the motherboard today it says its ryzen 5000x series ready on box they added the sticker to it after the box was made

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So I should be good to put it in there i hope I turned off ping

hasty veldt
cinder crypt
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Snake said fuck that one car in particular

fleet canopy
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silent rock 3 from bequiet!, it is said to be like DRP4

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Just a recommend I know you probably remember but still worth checking out

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Only complaint with DRP4 is the fucking springy ass shit you need to put fans on

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Finger pain

cinder crypt
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Ehh ill figure it out when I need my fan for cpu im most likely going to go with drp4

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Just cause it highly recommended

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I would get NH-D15 but its huge im sure my case could fit it but I dont know about my ram tho

fleet canopy
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if you have like basic low profile ram, you're fine

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On the DRP4 web page it says it can fit in a G.Skill Trident Z

cinder crypt
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Uhh

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I'm going to be using corsair vengeance rgb 2 16gb ram sticks

cinder crypt
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So I dont know if they will fit

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But ill try to make them

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If they look like they can

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If it won't work tho I won't force them

fleet canopy
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Vengeance RGB pro?

barren wadi
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if you dont have high vrm heatsinks you can use the D15S

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or go for the U14S

cinder crypt
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@fleet canopy yes

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This is my whole build im going for i have the case and the motherboard so far

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Except I forgot to change ram sticks they will be the 16 gb ones

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There fixed it

fleet canopy
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I have to get this 999,999.99$ 1.92TB now

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So is it a bug?

proper wren
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Is a feature Mayrosmug

fleet canopy
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Yes

proper wren
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It also has financing

fleet canopy
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Who cares about financing

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Just buy it right away

abstract kite
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there is usually a good reason not to buy from dell website

fleet canopy
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There is usually a good reason not to do anything related to Dell

abstract kite
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Dell has good servers

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I like working with them

cinder crypt
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@fleet canopy yea I looked on website it said there should be no ram problems with the motherboard i have

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At least with the drp4

proper wren
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Linus reviewing Halo Infinite

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I already played the demo Doggo

viral geode
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There's a demo out!

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?*

proper wren
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nah I just went to my brother's office and did beta testing

fleet canopy
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Yeah but it's not about the motherboard, it's about RAM clearance when it comes to some big kinda CPU coolers

viral geode
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The D15 cleared mine. But I've honestly been thinking of upgrading my RAM

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My motherboard is an ASRock B450 a/c so I'm not sure if it's compatible with 16gb sticks

fleet canopy
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Just check how much RAM your motherboard can do

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Most do at least 64GB

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Smaller boards may only support just 64 or as low as 32GB

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But it doesn't matter how much each RAM has, as long as you're not exceeding the motherboard's RAM limit

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The only thing to really check with RAM and motherboards are soon whether it's DDR4 or DDR5, how much capacity there can be, and how many slots, whether you might think of having 4 sticks of RAM

fleet canopy
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Dual GPU yes

viral geode
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Yeah it's got 2 GPU slots

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It's got 4 RAM slots

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DDR4

fleet canopy
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Speaking of having multiple

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Is the GPU in the top slot?

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: )

viral geode
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Of course

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Right underneath my D15

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@fleet canopy what happens if I put it in the other one?

fleet canopy
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Pcie 16x for top, pcie 8x for lower

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Basically a better bandwidth for PCie 16

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afaik the 3090 almost reached max limit for pcie 16

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But idk

viral geode
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I've got a 3070. The poor man's rtx

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Trying to get a new job to get a 3090

fleet canopy
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I mean

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I'd take it tbf, it's a lot better than a 2070 Super lmao

viral geode
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Nah I'm shipping my 3070 to a friend of mine once I get a 3090

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He's got a 1660 super right now so he could use it

late echo
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I have a 2080 Super, but it's in a laptop.
It's probably the best laptop I could get before the 30 series came out, but it's still no custom-built PC

barren wadi
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how is 3070 poor man rtx lmao

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thats 2080ti for less than half the price

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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But I'm an AMD boy 😎

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So it's the SeXT for me

cinder crypt
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shit ill take it its better then my 2070 i want to get a 3080

fleet canopy
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I have a 2070 Super it's super

proper wren
barren wadi
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strapping 3 1030s and i get a 3090

fleet canopy
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Fuck, I should have known all along!!

proper wren
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Hmmm I shluld refund my 1tb ssd and just get 2tb ssd from amazon. Then get 500gb ssd for my friend

fleet canopy
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Perhaps

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Refund for 2TB

proper wren
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Im not giving him my 1tb

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Hes a dingus

fleet canopy
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:)

proper wren
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No wait I have plenty of 500gb ssds in my computer

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Genius

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But I greeed

fleet canopy
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Hm, what does this mean?

proper wren
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I cant use hdd if I got itx

fleet canopy
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That's lame

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But e

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h

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SSD superior :)

barren wadi
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there's a use for hdd

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nvidia instant replay

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constantly writing on ssd is pain

merry bay
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if you have separate OS and game SSD's it can't be an issue

advantages to store uncut clips on your SSD so they show up in folder quicker for viewing, and copy into editing software faster

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moving edited or cut down clips for longer storage into HDD sounds great tho

fleet canopy
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About Ethereum mining soon becoming obsolete

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But some say another coin is coming up

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So not sure how it'll be like, but it's possible to have a handful in stock for something better than most retail prices possibly

barren wadi
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1tb nvme went from 100% to 96% health in a couple of months

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i know the thing with showing up saves faster but its not worth the level of degradation

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ripped out my hdd from my laptop just for recordings dribble

fleet canopy
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I think depending what you use it for, it depends

barren wadi
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and the saves show up about a minute after so its fine

fleet canopy
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Depends on what depends, real nice I did there

barren wadi
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nice

merry bay
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At least in my case I'd swap it out or put it into a backup system within 5 or 6 years. At this rate, would still have a decent amount of health left.
Replays are relatively small ~240MB for 2minutes

barren wadi
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i save 20min clips

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at max quality

fleet canopy
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lol

merry bay
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Just browsing or streaming video caches it in your temp drive. That eats into it as well

proper wren
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Cardssssss

fleet canopy
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Quick, give me the AMD one Poddog

barren wadi
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tbf i also had it recording desktop to capture stupid moments in discord

proper wren
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Box within a bawx

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The msi mousemat that comes with it smells

bright shard
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mats generally always smell

proper wren
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5800x, RTX 3070

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And an A520 motherboard...

barren wadi
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vrms are gonna have a hell of a time

cinder crypt
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So far I have my case and my motherboard

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Yea I know I have a carpet

viral geode
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Man I've got a 3070 and a noctua cooler. Now I can have double noctua

fleet canopy
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: )

fleet canopy
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Monitor

fleet canopy
dry hollow
vernal spindle
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so im looking to get started on GTFO and i dont know if my system hits the min, heres my specs;

merry bay
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it will run, if it's enough fps to enjoy - up to you to decide

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steam offers under 2h playtime no questions asked refunds, so you're free to test around

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unless you bought the game over 2 weeks ago, then it doesn't apply

viral geode
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Already got one

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Cable management was because it was a prebuilt. I'm too lazy to make my own

dry hollow
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Not sure if its just me but that picture isn't loading

stuck light
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Just curious, does anyone here play gtfo on a linux distro? If so, which one?

dry hollow
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Ah now it loads

viral geode
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It's not the cleanest

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But it works

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And that's good nuff for me

dry hollow
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If you can avoid it don't use the pigtail cables, I think that's the term. If you have them use two separate 8 pins to the gpu

viral geode
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I didn't wire it and it's so tight I would have to redo the whole thing

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My whole setup is a rats nest of cables behind a desk. But I'm not trying to impress anyone

dry hollow
vernal spindle
lusty star
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which one is more 'normal', GPU fans running all the time or GPU fans only running once they hit a certain temp. i.e 50c-55c

fleet canopy
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Certain temps

lusty star
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oh thank god

fleet canopy
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At some certain temps, it'll start 50%, and rise the hotter it gets

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But that shouldn't get too hot unless you don't clean PC and/or don't have good airflow for GPU

lusty star
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no it'll kick on around 50-55 until low 40

fleet canopy
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Yeah, that's good

lusty star
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one more question

fleet canopy
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If it were going 100% all time, then there's a problem

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Going 100% at start up is perfectly normal

lusty star
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I've been trying to look for a monitor upgrade that works with my pc. How does a G7 T1 sound for 3060?

fleet canopy
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For a G7, uh

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What CPU do you have?

lusty star
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AMD ryzen 5 3600 6-core

fleet canopy
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Well it's not gonna hit 240FPS for many games but that's fine ig

sly ledge
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just lower your graphics

fleet canopy
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If you play stuff like CSGO or Siege (Siege has Vulkan, makes NVIDIA GPU PCs run game faster yes), that's pretty good

sly ledge
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ez

fleet canopy
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that too

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But nice graphics be like

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Be sure about ordering a G7 though, it's a great monitor and all, but some people didn't like the curve that the monitor has

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It's an unusual curve for a monitor that isn't a widescreen, like the G9

lusty star
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i heard its supposed to be curved to match the curvature of the human eye

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or so linus says

fleet canopy
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I guess

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But it seems to be good for an ultrawide screen

lusty star
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ok i'll look for some other 1440p monitors with a less extreme curve

fleet canopy
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I have a M27Q, pretty good imo, nice price, 1440p, IPS, 170Hz all for 320$

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You might be able to just use that saved money for a better CPU or GPU

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Well, market for GPU is shitty

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But you know, putting it towards other stuff yes

lusty star
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I don't really need over 120hz and $300 is much better than the $700 for the G7

fleet canopy
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With the 3060, getting the 170Hz won't be that difficult at all

lusty star
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yeah ik, only thing limiting me from the ultimate gaming experience now is my monitor. Which happens to actually be a 36in 60hz TV.

fleet canopy
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lol I started with a 1060 3GB and 7700K with a bigass shitty low res TV

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Man did that fuck with my neck bad

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Then I got a monitor that had slightly more pixels for free ish

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From 1360x768 to 1600x900p

barren wadi
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1440p 144hz is the sweetspot rn 3sRaphiThumbsUp

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mine is VG27AQ 1440p 165hz for about 300$+

tame field
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unless its a bad gpu

lunar zenith
queen cedar
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anyone know why the game turns the volume to max on my computer whenever I tab in?

spice grotto
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Best mouse for FPS PLEASE?

lunar zenith
spice grotto
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I recently bought my first ever gaming mouse, a Razor naga X ergonomic. It's been the worst mouse I have ever used in my history of only $10aud budget mice...

hidden ferry
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@spice grotto GO FOR PMW 3389

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SENSOR

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THATS THE BEST SENSOR FOR COMPI

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all the manfuare with pmw 3389 sensor are very light mouse

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59-100 gms

barren wadi
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yes wireless

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once u go wireless, u cant go back

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logitechs are known for double clicking

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cause micron 10m's

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viper ultimates great

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i use basilisk ultimate cause i prefer heavier mices

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came from all the old g502 mices

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glorious model o is wireless and i think model d is coming out with a wireless soon?

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could also search up comparison videos, they are all informative

high heron
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depends on your budget but I think the viper ultimate and the G pro wireless are considered to be best/lightest mice

lunar zenith
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My recommendation for wireless mouse is G903, the one that I am using right now.

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Light and no delay

lusty star
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anyone have recommendations for a gaming keyboard

fleet canopy
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Why are you recommending him just straight up random mouses though

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It might suck so bad if he's got a hand too big or too small for any of these

sly ledge
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all ill say is switching to wireless was a nice change

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but even then sometimes my mouse feels small

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its all about finding something comfy for you

fleet canopy
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Yes

lunar zenith
merry bay
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eh, that's personal. Lightweight cables have gotten pretty good I've never noticed any drag on mine. As long as you don't keep it in tension

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it's a small step to make sure your wire isn't hanging all the way down your table, just place most of it somewhere higher or use a bungie and cable drag is solved, you get to enjoy a cheaper mouse with 0 worries about charging

proper wren
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Razer lancehead is a decent mouse

merry bay
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that's a neat gif

merry bay
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just google the motherboard and find the manufacturer website, those tend to have support lists

fading skiff
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Thanks!

limpid temple
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pc boots and is fine but just out of the blue randomly, not doing anything, it will just freeze, but this time my display has stayed on since i reseated ram, it doesnt shutoff, so i just cut power since its frozen and boot it back up fine, and it like doesnt happen the rest of the day

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which i just reseated it blew some air in it n stuff

spice grotto
barren wadi
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Wireless is worth WAYTOODANK

fading skiff
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Question: Is a lightly used AMX PSU from 2007 usable?

bright shard
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In a new build? Highly unlikely.

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Fun to fuck around with using a breakout board? Maybe.

proper wren
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The caps on that psu must have a ton of leaks lol

barren wadi
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caps gonna pop like firecrackers

fleet canopy
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Just use a more recent and new PSU

merry bay
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that unit is old enough to be a risk to all of your components, wouldn't feel comfortable using it

fleet canopy
viral geode
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hey uh....can you dont?

fleet canopy
proper wren
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To those customers I sold the psu to because they are mean and want to cheap out on psu for an expensive gpu

fleet canopy
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:))

scenic sentinel
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Is 450w enough for a r7 2700x and a 1660 super ?

obsidian berry
scenic sentinel
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Oh thx

obsidian berry
scenic sentinel
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Oh

void perch
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Never underpower the psu

fleet canopy
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Buy cheap 300W with 3090 and 5950X

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Epic

echo pawn
fleet canopy
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What's that?

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never heard of one before

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Sounds made up

echo pawn
dry hollow
fleet canopy
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Accurate

lime merlin
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Hi, i looking for best motherboard for ryzen 5 3600. Does somebody have experience with ryzen 5 3600? and what config do you use with this cpu? thank you)

echo salmon
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i have the ryzen 5 3600x with a 3070

edgy garnet
sour idol
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x570 is overkill

barren wadi
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used to use a 3600 on my x570

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but if u dont tinker and oc a b450 is fine

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since this is the last gen for am4 anyway and the only thing u can upgrade from a 3600 is a 5000series

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and pcie gen4 that would help whenever direct storage becomes a thing

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but that also requires expensive ssds

viral geode
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So could you put a 5950x in a b450

fleet canopy
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No

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Well

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It's not like you can't

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But you really can't do it without having problems left n right

merry bay
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what do you mean? this would be a perfect board for a 5950x SeemsKappa

fleet canopy
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Are you intentionally putting the worst board in?

merry bay
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more or less

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it would run, but VRM's would be overworked for so many cores

fleet canopy
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ye lol

merry bay
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could be anything from lesser performance, to intense stability issues or straight up a short board life

fleet canopy
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I'm not sure if it's possible to have a 5950x work great for a B450, but there might be some that might be kinda alright

merry bay
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chipset itself isn't a big issue I don't think, just gotta have decently built motherboard

fleet canopy
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Ye

viral geode
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I've got an ASRock b450 a/c

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not sure if thats good

fleet canopy
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B450M/AC?

cinder crypt
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i just got my cpu

fleet canopy
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Gamer moment

cinder crypt
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would the motherboard i have work it says ryzen 5000 series compatible

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its the x570 tuff gaming

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motherboard

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i assume it would

fleet canopy
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Yeah it shouldn't be any problem

merry bay
fleet canopy
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Buy a 1000$ motherboard instead 😎

barren wadi
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1k mb with gt1030s EZ

viral geode
barren wadi
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as long as sufficient airflow for vrms and running it on stock ye

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or caps and fets gonna pop WAYTOODANK

viral geode
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Yeah it's all stock I don't trust myself with overclocking and I've got plenty of airflow

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Got a couple extra fans from my NH D15 working on em too

fleet canopy
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Just set it to the highest possible OC with the lowest power and it'll work 😎

viral geode
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All of that sounds like a horrible idea be right back

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Update my house is now a crater

barren wadi
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that was quick E_MonkaSpeed

viral geode
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Lol

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Sent my noctua at mach Jesus through the wall then everything else went boom

proper wren
#

Dogcold reformatting my computer

viral geode
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Fuck it I'm buying a new motherboard what's a good one to grab for ryzen

viral geode
#

Looking to really beef it

spice rivet
#

Depends on your needs, if you will buy the most expensive one it will just be a waste, if you buy the cheapest one chanses are you wont use other components to the full extent so you will have to do research, everything depends on the components you have if you just want an upgrade.

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So if someone just says a random model of a motherboard it might not be so good for you

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Also depending on what you plan to do with your pc you might not need one

viral geode
#

3090 with a 3900x until I can get my hands on a 5950x

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R9

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That's the goal

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I bought it to be beefy. But I was just a newbie. Now I know there's beefier than what I got and I got a friend who could use what I have

viral geode
#

It's kind of just the one thing in my life I'm just gonna go all out on

brazen condor
#

is it even worth looking for a gpu right now?

spice rivet
brazen condor
#

guess i'm not buying gtfo until a while later then

spice rivet
#

gtfo is not that of a demanding game tho, what do you have right now?

brazen condor
#

ryzen 3400g

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no graphics card

spice rivet
#

ah

#

depending on where you live you might look at some budget gpus like a gtx1660 super or 1650 super at retailers for the official retail price

#

since they will last you for a decent time and they are pretty good price to performance wise

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but if you can find it at official retail price

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my friend was lucky with a 1650 super but idk whats the situation at other places

spice rivet
# viral geode 3090 with a 3900x until I can get my hands on a 5950x

I meant that all components count not just cpu and gpu since even the ssd might be under powered or overpowered not including the PSU or ram (ram shouldn't be a big deal, also it depends if you are planing to overclock it or not (I noticed earlier that you were not so probably you wont need a very expensive one but again picking the right thing will take some time)) and sorry im not going to give you a definitive answer on what exact part to buy.

brazen condor
#

there's only a few stores around here that are legit looking

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and the gpus in my price range are all sold out

viral geode
#

I'll just use a 550 since that seems to be the move

spice rivet
spice rivet
viral geode
#

Seems like the best move since that's what everyone recommends for a 5950. I'm also just kinda splurging anyway so nothing will be a waste, just more room for upgrades later

brazen condor
#

wait hold on i just found something other than another quadro

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gtx 1050 ti oc 4gb gddr5

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220 euros

spice rivet
#

its not going to play everything max but for the right price it should be alright for a year maybe

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i had a basic gtx 1050 and it was not so good to be honest

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and i would not recommend it for 220

brazen condor
#

i've never bought a gpu before so i really don't know how to look for them

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the chip shortage doesn't help either

spice rivet
#

well they closed down the miners in china so maybe it will get better soon

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or rather trying to close down all of em

viral geode
#

Gonna have to hit up the microcenter

spice rivet
fleet canopy
#

Why must you be stupid 10 year old kid with PC

brazen condor
#

did i just get called a stupid 10 year old kid with a pc by a person named canada?

fleet canopy
#

Not you

spice rivet
#

idk to who he is referring to

fleet canopy
#

King is basically the 10 year old kid who asks dad to get the highest end components to show off so lol

brazen condor
#

oh

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rich people

#

shivers in korean

spice rivet
#

ye you dont need a top spec laptop to be honest

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mid tear will play anything

viral geode
#

I just do it because. Not to flex. But because it's fun

brazen condor
#

i've been playing games at 20 to 40 fps all my life

spice rivet
#

if you are not doing disign or futureproofing its a bit of a waste

fleet canopy
#

I think he just wants to buy the highest end that's available for not enough good reason

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20FPS is not good? smh

brazen condor
#

unless it's like minecraft or something

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or a console game

fleet canopy
#

I've been gaming at 15FPS in the start 😎

spice rivet
#

and here it starts "back im my day we played with floppy discs"

fleet canopy
#

I remember playing doom on my potato

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: ) ) )

viral geode
#

And it's my own money not my parents

fleet canopy
#

Yes I know

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But I'm still confused why someone would just keep on buying the highest end when it can already last for years with no problem : (

viral geode
#

Because I wanna

fleet canopy
#

But :(

viral geode
#

:)

fleet canopy
#

Bleh!

viral geode
#

Its more of a self satisfaction thing

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Only thing is I'm not sure if I will have to buy a new OS for the motherboard or if I can just transfer my ssd

spice rivet
#

probably you would get more self satisfaction from a decent car on a racetrack

viral geode
#

Fair but a PC it's cheaper than a car

spice rivet
#

depends

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if you want like a mazda mx5 its not that bad

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if you want a car newer than 2015 then ye

wise kayak
#

i'm having a problem with the fps, when i'am playing alone, i get 40-50 fps, but when i play with players fps drops to 20-30 fps, what can i do?

brazen condor
#

i doubt that 3 player models would be that taxing to render

wise kayak
#

so whats the problem?

dry hollow
#

Specs?

wise kayak
#

maybe but the thing is i didnt had this problem before, i recently changed to ssd, and before this i could get between 40-50 fps even when i'm playing online.

bright shard
#

i highly doubt changing from hdd to ssd is what is resulting in performance difference

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unless the ssd itself is defective.

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which is doubtable.

#

again, specs?

wise kayak
#

geforce 940mx, 8gb ram, i5

bright shard
#

did you reinstall windows on to the ssd?

wise kayak
#

yes

bright shard
#

check your nvidia settings for the game.

wise kayak
#

i did i've been tweaking on nvidia control panel

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idk why fps goes down when i'm in multiplayer

viral geode
#

So will I have to get a new OS for a new motherboard or can I just installed my ssd?

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Install my current sad*

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Ssd*

viral geode
#

Yes

brazen condor
#

one time i had a problem with amd freesync. it made the black colors on the screen flicker in some games which then stayed even after i closed the game

fleet canopy
#

You can put your SSD in, and then I'm not sure how, but you can switch the OS to another drive by doing something I cannot remember

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It's not by just moving the files to the other drive so idk

viral geode
#

Ah

bright shard
# viral geode Yes
  1. just be careful with getting the new drivers.
  2. if you activated your windows 10 with a Microsoft account it will probably work.
viral geode
#

I got my shit prebuilt

bright shard
#

so im assuming you're not the one who installed windows?

#

then, dubious, but at least worth a shot.

viral geode
#

If all else fails I can get a new OS

spice rivet
#

just reinstall the current one

#

its windows 10 or linux at this point

#

for gaming you can go linux but you will have to learn a buntch

bright shard
#

honestly, its not that much you have to learn

spice rivet
#

depends on what you want to do with the os

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if its just play video games theres practically 0

#

since you just need steam and you are done

viral geode
#

I'm doing Windows

spice rivet
#

but if you want other platforms it gets tricky

viral geode
#

I won't be caught dead with Linux

abstract kite
#

i have both linux and windows

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only a few games will only run on windows, even then many games are too old to play on windows that i want to play haha

spice rivet
#

well valve did a lot of development for linux so if its in steam you probably can play it on linux

viral geode
#

Just got a b550 wifi fellas

cinder crypt
#

nice

#

i just got another part to my pc i have psu,fans and controller, cpu fan,ram and windows license i believe and some thermal paste

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left

viral geode
#

Nice

dry hollow
#

Is the 4 pin fine? PSU was from evga b-stock and the 4 pin was on the wrong side so I had to pull it around and it doesn't have enough length to go completely in

merry bay
proper wren
#

4 pin on the cpu? will be fine still

merry bay
#

it's supposed to sort of snap into 1 24pin, just fiddle with it a bit while disconnected
can try pushing on just the 4pin like in the pic, but doesn't always go in well at that point

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the 4pin part on the 20+4pin motherboard power

proper wren
#

is fine.

merry bay
#

it's not in all the way

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it might work but there's a chance it goes loose from a slight bump on the case and result in sudden shutdowns

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motherboard isn't even in the case still, it's best to do it properly now rather than risk it

dry hollow
#

Motherboard is in the case and if I plug in the 4 pin in first the 20 pin won't go in, tried plugging them in together and that also doesn't work.
Decided to just buy cable extensions

#

The board is an rampage II extreme and is an eatx board so the extra cutouts made it look like it wasn't installed in the picture but it was

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And for anyone wondering how I got my hands on a rampage ii extreme, my neighbor was throwing away his old workstation

merry bay
#

the picture is a bit blurry, but as long as the bottom of the connector is flush and the seam is basically invisible it's good to go

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unsure what you were asking about if the connector seems to be plugged in all the way

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if the connector was special it would be keyed differently and not plug in(it's standard for decades)

vocal crest
#

The atx EPS 8 has a 2x4 pin implementation too

#

This will all be fixed soon though i think most next gen mobos are gonna be ATx12VO

barren wadi
red sinew
#

@frank apex U need to fix up ur punctuation rq

#

the bot is seeing a link in ur message and deleting it

#

make sure all the . are placed properly and not in between two unspaced words

frank apex
#

i dont have a link

red sinew
#

I know

frank apex
#

oh ok

red sinew
#

should let u post after u fix that up

frank apex
#

Hey guys, hope you all are doing good, i have an issue with my gpu fans, the gpu i have is GIGABYTE''s RTX 3070 ti Gaming OC, the issue is that the fans are silent until the gpu temp goes to 55c and then they start turning but when the temp gets low enough all fans stop spinning except that last fan (most right fan), it doesnt stop spinning and runs at 100% speed, i tried to tweak it in MSI afterburner and tried Aorus engine, nothing seems to work, when i go to the bios however, the fans stop spinning and act normal.

#

Specs:
Ryzen 7 3700x
Asus strix b550-f (WiFi) "Bios updated"
G skill 3600 MHz 32 GB kit
Gigabyte RTX 3070 ti Gaming OC
Corsair RM850 PSU

frank apex
red sinew
barren wadi
#

probably faulty gpu firmware

#

either set custom fan curve in afterburner to see if u can fix it or rma

#

but gigabyte is in a shithole rn so rma is gonna be a hassle

frank apex
frank apex
#

but thanks for the suggestion Hackett_Heart

barren wadi
merry bay
#

the behavior is different in bios, possibly because of drivers installed on windows or software taking over

might have a few utilities that have saved settings and default to that once in windows. some overwrite others, so I'd think back about every program you used that can control fans and check each

#

wouldn't hurt to clean things up with DDU and reinstalling GPU drivers too

frank apex
#

will try it, the last thing i will do is reset the whole pc and start from there

#

thanksHackett_Heart

viral geode
#

Does ice giant make those thermosiphon things for normal cpus and if so would it be worth upgrading from a d15 for a 5000 series chip?

cinder crypt
#

so ive been thinking i was looking at case and i saw gamer nexus reviewed it and he said that top part was better left empty cause it doesnt have a open mesh filter up top so i was thinking of just replacing back fan any opinions on that

#

for reference

#

@viral geode a nh-d15?

viral geode
#

Yes

#

But I just found out about those ice giant coolers and they seem better

#

But I wasn't sure if it was worth the price tag from a d15

cinder crypt
#

i mean they should do about the same

#

i would assume

viral geode
#

The thermals for threadrippers were better than a d15 threadripper model. But I'm not sure if they make em for normal cpus

cinder crypt
#

yea they do

#

they can be used on normal cpus

viral geode
#

I've already got a D15 for my 3900x

#

But I heard 5000 series works up more heat than 3000 series

cinder crypt
#

im going to be getting a d15 for my 5800x

viral geode
#

I was just curious is all. Might nab one if it's a worthwhile upgrade but if it's negligible for the price then nah

#

I'm not overclocking so I may not need it

cinder crypt
#

a d15 is one of the best if not the best air cooler

#

nh d15 at least

viral geode
#

Ah gotcha. I just remember seeing the ice giant was putting it to shame

cinder crypt
#

well yea but

#

its twice as big

viral geode
#

Width wise but it's about the same height wise

#

Was thinking about it if the NH D15 fell behind for cooling a 5950

#

The max my 3900x gets to with a single fan with my D15 is like 71C

cinder crypt
#

im going to use 2 fans so it should run slightly cooler

viral geode
#

My case doesn't have the clearance but my ram is also like right fuckin next to my CPU socket so once my B550 comes in I'll be able to put the second on

cinder crypt
#

but it most likely will perform the same unless your putting cpu under extreme conditions i would assume

viral geode
#

Nah it's just for gaming. I'm not rendering shit

#

But I play a lot of higher end games

cinder crypt
#

then most likely a nh d15 will probably be fine

viral geode
#

Like cybermeme (modded to hell) and resE village

#

Frankly enough the hottest my CPU ever gets is playing dmc5 for some reason

#

Cyberpunk my temp maxes out at like 63

#

But dmc 5 kicks peak temp (for whole session) to like 70

#

It's fuckin wierd

#

Not even res 8 kicks it up that high and I think that's the most demanding game I play

#

Anyone have any idea why dmc kicks my temps way up?

cinder crypt
#

uh is vsync on?

#

if its off

#

that might be why?

#

considering it limits your frames

viral geode
#

I have v sync on for everythinf

#

Everything*

#

Can't stand when it's off especially with games like get to the orange door that runs at like 300fps

#

Screen tearing.exe

barren wadi
#

better to use cap fps setting instead of using vsync

signal fulcrum
#

3080 coming soon

barren wadi
lunar zenith
signal fulcrum
#

Thursday is when we get it this week, been waiting for a long time

#

Called off work and everything, this is a huge event

barren wadi
#

big fps gamers

viral geode
#

Fuck yeah

cinder crypt
#

gamer hours how much did you spend @signal fulcrum

signal fulcrum
#

only about 600$ give or take

abstract kite
#

That's very good for a 3080?

#

Wait that's below msrp right?

signal fulcrum
#

I bought it from a friend of mine from work, he ended up getting a 3090 shortly after and boom easy gains

abstract kite
#

My friends just give me anxiety

signal fulcrum
#

lol

abstract kite
#

But that's cool man, hope you enjoy gaming on it

signal fulcrum
#

it's a beast I sold my 2060 to my brother

abstract kite
#

Aw that's a nice gesture

signal fulcrum
#

yeah he wanted to get into PC shit after he got back from A-school

hasty prawn
#

That's where I play gtfo

#

On that commadore2021

viral geode
#

I've got that same gpu but black

#

Assuming it's a 3070

proper wren
hasty prawn
#

@proper wren Yer I'm changing it for an 850 so I can upgrade to a better card than the 3070. Im just not sure on which one my friend keeps saying I should just get 1000 watt so I don't need to change again. What would you say a reliable PSU is to get ? Is it just the 650 that can go bad or is it Corsair as a brand?

viral geode
#

I just kinda got whatever I found so I've got a gamemax 850 gold and it works fine

hasty prawn
#

@viral geode yer it's the zotac 3070 OC white edition not sure what's over clocked about it though but it runs 1440p on a 34" ultra wide so it's good enough for what I need at the moment. I do want a bigger card so I can move to 4k above 60hz though.

viral geode
#

I use mine for 1080 144hz

#

Because I'm stingy and not too much of a nitpicker

#

I'm working my ass off to try to get a 3090 though

fleet canopy
hasty prawn
#

@fleet canopy ok thanks i want a modular one i know that and either a platinum or titanium I know that much

fleet canopy
#

A gold is perfectly fine

hasty prawn
#

Seasonic Focus PX 850 850W Modular 80+ Platinum PSU/Power Supply thats the one im currently looking at right now

dry hollow
#

Those are solid units

proper wren
#

850W gold rated is the best recommendation always.

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If I was at home I can show you a doc I made with a co-worker on psu ratings

#

Zotacs are usually garbage at OC especially the 20 series cards. If you want to do 4K then you would want like a better 3070 or 3080 or higher.

hasty prawn
#

@proper wren I'm looking to the 3080ti but I want to upgrade my PSU first. I'll look into the gold ones thanks what would you say a good GPU is to aim for I want an Asus one.

proper wren
#

3080ti is basically 3090 but actually for gaming lol

ocean ivy
#

Im having a lot of problems with freezing, ive tried quite a few things and the problem still persists. Turned off all programs on startup, checked temps, checked if anything is capping out in task manager, everything. Anyone know what could be causing it? specs:
3080
i9 10900K
64G ram
temps usually at ~50 C

merry bay
#

try setting whatever is stuttering to High Priority in task manager

ocean ivy
#

thats the thing, everything is stuttering from Splitgate and GTFO to even file manager and chrome

merry bay
#

is there a chance your storage is over 5 years old or overfilled to the brim?

#

might be IO slowdowns as a potential cause

#

if it's tough looking for potential fixes, can always just nuke and reinstall windows, at least that's a step I'd take before blaming it on hardware issues

ocean ivy
#

storage is pretty new, probably not overfilled, built the pc about 9 months ago

#

might try nuking

abstract kite
viral geode
#

Should I nab a 3080ti? Or just go straight for a 3090

#

I've got no space for a radiator for the strix water-cooled 3080ti so it would be a normal air cooled one

#

Ping me when you answer btw I keep this place muted

merry bay
#

if it's just for games there's not really a reason to get a 3090

viral geode
#

Yeah it would be just for games.

#

I just like to run shit cranked is all

barren wadi
#

80ti

#

90 is just not worth

#

also because a 90super might be coming out

#

nvidia

viral geode
#

Gotcha

dry hollow
cinder crypt
#

ok so anyone have any suggestions for the rest of my build i went from the 4 fans i thought about getting to 1 cause gamer nexus said it was supposed to be like that https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KmVhht

#

i think i like it overall but if anyone has any suggestions for anything i havent bought let me know

#

and the cpu cooler is buffy i know but i want it to last and not doing watercooling or aio

cinder crypt
abstract kite
#

@cinder cryptthat psu is way too much unless you're planning on upgrading to a high-end 30 series gpu

cinder crypt
#

oh i know

#

i eventually plan to

abstract kite
#

the components with no price are the ones you've already bought?

cinder crypt
#

yes

abstract kite
#

okay so i have a few reccomendations i'd make

#

nh d-15 => dark rock pro 4

#

it's smaller and not that much worse performance wise

#

second off i'd change the ram to 3600 or 3733 mhz(best for ryzen from what i've heard) cl16

cinder crypt
#

ok ive heard that and ive thought about that but ive heard somewhere it doesnt seem to work as well with 5000 series

cinder crypt
#

i dont know where but in my head ive felt like ive seen it

#

cause i did research

abstract kite
#

what temps are you looking for?

#

imo anything below 80c is fine

#

but you may disagree

cinder crypt
#

low temps not high yea right now my current pc with a 2700 sometimes goes over 80 which i dont like

abstract kite
#

alright so from what im reading it hits 87c with drp4

#

highest ive read

#

ive also seen a 66 and a 79

#

and nhd15 is at around 80

cinder crypt
#

and also another reason i wanted to go with nh is cause my case has room for it \

#

so at most a 7c diffrence

abstract kite
#

at most

#

and like idk if the issue persists but most ryzen 3000 series had tons of room for undervolting

cinder crypt
#

undervolting

#

?

#

im still new to most of the meanings

abstract kite
#

supplying lower voltage to the cpu

cinder crypt
#

hmmm

abstract kite
#

nothing bad comes from it

cinder crypt
#

also im fine with 3600 ram speed funny enough my prebuilt is running 1300mhz it seems like and i dont know the actuall speed cause i have not pulled them they are offbrand anyway

abstract kite
#

is 1300mhz the infinity fabric speed or the speed you're running at

cinder crypt
#

and im just wanting 2 16 gb sticks not really any need for anymore

#

i dont know im using icue for my corsair mat

#

and was telling me a ram speed

abstract kite
#

in either case you should turn on xmp

cinder crypt
#

those are the ram sticks that came with it

abstract kite
#

that looks like 2133mhz ram to me

#

turn on xmp man

cinder crypt
#

dont know how haven't messed with bios yet

abstract kite
#

did you jsut get it?

cinder crypt
#

nah i have had for 3 years almost

abstract kite
#

bro.

cinder crypt
#

i just never had the interest to but i need to

#

probably

abstract kite
#

yeahhhh

#

you do

#

and you'll have to go into the bios to undervolt too unless u want to do through ryzen master

cinder crypt
#

what does undervolting do any way

#

like i know it reduce voltage

abstract kite
#

it literally gives less volts to the cpu

#

lower temps

cinder crypt
#

ah

#

ok

#

got it

abstract kite
#

longer lifespan cuz of lower temps

#

and performance will stay the same if you do it right

cinder crypt
#

@abstract kite

abstract kite
#

give me a sec

#

can you look for xmp?

cinder crypt
#

where might that be

abstract kite
#

check those 4 first

#

ignoring 2nd

cinder crypt
#

where might xmp be

abstract kite
#

i told you to check those 4 first options

#

wait here i found exact steps

#

ai tweaker

#

ai overclock tuner

#

xmp1

#

or docp

cinder crypt
#

hmmm

abstract kite
#

just search around man

cinder crypt
#

yea i dont see an option in overclock

abstract kite
#

pretty sure you can scroll down

cinder crypt
#

yea there isnt an option

#

in this motherboard at least

abstract kite
#

your motherboard supports

#

xmp/docp

cinder crypt
#

only thing i see with oc is oc tuner and it only has 2 settings

#

keep current

abstract kite
#

and?

cinder crypt
#

or oc tuner which adjust automatically

abstract kite
#

what is in "memory frequency"

cinder crypt
#

al the speeds

#

that i can set them to

proper wren
#

Imagine having xmp on 2133mhz

abstract kite
#

bro this shit is confusing asf

#

first off

#

2133hz is the base clock for ddr4

cinder crypt
#

this board doesnt look like it was in anyway meant for oc

#

cause ive only seen 1 setting for oc

proper wren
#

Whats your mobo and cpu

abstract kite
#

Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard

#

and 5800x

cinder crypt
#

no

proper wren
#

Not yours his

cinder crypt
#

im not using that yet

abstract kite
#

that's what was on the pc part picker list

cinder crypt
#

im still bulding it

abstract kite
#

......................................................................................................................................

cinder crypt
#

this is my prebulit

#

im using i thought you knew that

#

i said it

#

i thought

abstract kite
#

no i literally asked if the ones that are listen as 0 dollars on that list

#

are installed

#

and you were like "yes"

cinder crypt
#

you said do you have those

abstract kite
#

that's fair

cinder crypt
#

never asked if i had them installed

abstract kite
#

i thought it's implied

proper wren
#

...

cinder crypt
#

the motherboard in my prebuilt is

proper wren
#

Ah prime series

#

From what I guess is 1st or 2nd gen

cinder crypt
#

i think this one is 1st gen

proper wren
#

If is first gen you're gonna struggle to overclock hard

#

1st gen Ryzen can overclock but very limited

cinder crypt
#

2nd gen has II next to a

#

are you talking about cpu?

proper wren
#

B450 Prime A II is remodel or revision

cinder crypt
#

ah the cpu im using is 2nd gen

abstract kite
#

should he just input the values manually?

#

at this point

proper wren
#

Okay

cinder crypt
#

its a 2700

proper wren
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You can minor overclock it

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The board is not meant to overclock hard because the vrms

abstract kite
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board can't supply enough power to overclock

proper wren
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Putting the values manually on that board is not recommended

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I would just overclock the ram to 2400 if possible

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Default 2700 base is fine

cinder crypt
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as it is its set to 2666mhz

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automatically

proper wren
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Just depends what ram manufacturer is from

abstract kite
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how is 2133mhz ram

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set at 2666mhz?

cinder crypt
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idk its set on auto

proper wren
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Cool you did auto LOL

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Just beware of hiccups

cinder crypt
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there realy isnt any settings to adjust them except the timings

proper wren
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I overclocked my ram from 3000 to 3200mhz

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Yes the timings matter

cinder crypt
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and i dont know how much it can take

abstract kite
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timings matter more than anything else tbh but i got no idea how to set them

cinder crypt
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cause like i said its offbrand ram

proper wren
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Your timing is CL19 so very limited

cinder crypt
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its evo potenza geil

proper wren
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you dont set CL timings ever. It stays like that from the manufacturer

abstract kite
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cl is like the last?

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xx-xx-xx-xx(cl)

proper wren
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CL14-19

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Example

cinder crypt
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no 1st number

proper wren
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3200MHZ CL16 beats 3600MHZ CL19

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But it can change if you're using apu or intergrated graphics

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4000mhz cl19 is a big joke

abstract kite
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that's like cheapo 4000mhz angrylaugh2

cinder crypt
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btw any ram suggestions

abstract kite
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trident z is what i have and i pick it over corsair any day

proper wren
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CL timings is the reason why manufacturers and stores wont take back

cinder crypt
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ram im going to use is in there

proper wren
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Corsair, G.Skill TridentZ/Ripjaws V, Kingston HYPERX

cinder crypt
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if you have any suggestions i would just like 2 16 sticks

proper wren
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If you're cheap then Tforce and g.skill aegis

abstract kite
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i think he wants rgb

cinder crypt
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yea

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rgb and fast speeds

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im not cheaping out

proper wren
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If RGB Corsair Vengence RGB

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They have a new model

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If you want solid performance then Gskill TridentZ cl14 or cl15

cinder crypt
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the one i have selected is the corsair vengeance rgb pro sl 3600 with cl of 19

proper wren
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Beware that your mobo will bottleneck the ram but you can take it to next build

abstract kite
proper wren
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Ehhh

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Check mobo if it supports the ram kit

abstract kite
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i dont think you can get cl14 or cl15 on 3600mhz

cinder crypt
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im almost dobe getting the parts its a X570-Plus

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wifi

proper wren
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Check mobo if it supports

abstract kite
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wifi is uesless btw ^^

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like don't buy a mobo just cuz it has wifi

proper wren
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The onboard wifi is not useless

abstract kite
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it's not something you should base your motherboard choice on though

proper wren
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You have to know whats on the board itself first

cinder crypt
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nah i wasnt

proper wren
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X570 plus wifi is a solid mid range board

cinder crypt
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its nice to have if you dont have any ethernets

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in your house

abstract kite
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you can get a usb wifi antena

proper wren
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...

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That is the worst thing ever

abstract kite
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that is far faster than my onboard wifi on my old mobo

proper wren
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You have to deal with hiccups, overheating issues, and latency

cinder crypt
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the only reason i have some sort ethernet cause my dad bought ero

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ero pros

proper wren
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Get a PCIE wifi card if you do that

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I only recommend usb wifi for light work and light gaming

abstract kite
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the difference in latency isn't that big

cinder crypt
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ther ero im talking about is a mesh wifi system

proper wren
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Onboard wifi has improved over the years

abstract kite
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like around 10ms

proper wren
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Except on MSI

abstract kite
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msi has gone way down

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the tomahawk b450 was good

proper wren
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still solid

abstract kite
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yeah

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kinda overrated

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reddit worshipped the shit out of it

proper wren
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Because they made a good oc board

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Cant blame them

abstract kite
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still overrated asf

proper wren
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I rarely see them RMA

abstract kite
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my friend rma'ed 3

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and the 4th one finally worked fine

proper wren
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Luck of the draw

abstract kite
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that was horrible luck/shipping tho ima assume

cinder crypt
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ok so are the 18 cl corsair stil good you think

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or no ive heard that they perform good still with cl 18

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i mean in all terms it would still be better then what i currently have

proper wren
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Id go with 3200mhz cl16

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Since they're cheap now

cinder crypt
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cause as it stand i dont have alot of issues with my ram except like vr chat which i dont know if its my ram

proper wren
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Oh

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Whats your gpu

cinder crypt
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2070

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geforce rtx

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msi

proper wren
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For VRChat your cpu mobo and ram would be bottleneck

cinder crypt
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cause it has moments where it freezes

proper wren
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I have ryzen 3600, b550, 3060ti and 32 gbs ram

cinder crypt
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for a split sec

proper wren
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My cpu is bottlenecking

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Because too many vr players

cinder crypt
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no