#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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fleet canopy
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5K+

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ik im an epic gamer

proper wren
cursive anvil
proper wren
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dunno

fleet canopy
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Looks like crappy delivery if prebuilt

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Never seen that PSU before

abstract kite
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is anyone else having problems with connecting to lobbies or hosting lobbies? tried everything reinstall and router restart and still nothing

proper wren
proper wren
cursive anvil
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That's half the price of my van

lilac geyser
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im going to have to scalp a few extra 3070s this month to be able to afford one

fleet canopy
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Same, a couple 3090 and I'm gonna be able to get a 5950X and RTX 3090 build, those GPUs and CPUs are getting too expensive for me!

lilac geyser
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we might bemoan the high prices of the latest hardware, but we should also praise nvidia and amd for providing these opportunities

abstract kite
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Several months of not cleaning...

bright shard
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not too bad tbh

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but you should definitely put a filter on that bottom intake

abstract kite
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I was cleaning it at the time of the picture

bright shard
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ah.

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doost

scenic spire
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Um

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Meow

abstract kite
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Really getting tired of Mods Deleting my shit

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Not even a mention

cursive anvil
fathom juniper
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Alright without anyone bantering me on how or why console players are "lesser beings" do any of yall feel that this game does have potential for console launches?

fleet canopy
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Yeah, totally could, but something in #faq about consoles I don't remember anymore

simple jay
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they'd probably need to see some significant success on PC before they consider it i think

tawdry crescent
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plus the whole terminal system would need to be reworked

fathom juniper
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I mean with xbox u can use a keyboard so like a setting that can be changed any any time to switch between the two ways of controlling

simple jay
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they'd lose time on reactors

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uplinks too

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would probably need a system where they can choose from several options

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or autocomplete when they find a code or something

fleet canopy
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Probably be like have a list of options starting with stuff like list, ping, etc and expand from that, so say I chose the ping option, and a list comes up with equipment or key

cursive anvil
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Why is this in pc build

fathom juniper
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Cuz i said "Alright without anyone bantering me on how or why console players are ""lesser beings"" do any of yall feel that this game does have potential for console launches?" Was simply asking those who play pc if they feel the game could work on console or if i should basically give up hope for that

vale marlin
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I feel like they'll do it after full release

cursive anvil
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We all play on pc, why no ask on general

mossy pelican
fathom juniper
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I know weve already discussed this, was just repeating it for Grump Dumpster.

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And i asked in here where tech and processing is mostly discussed, felt it was within those boundaries

crimson burrow
cursive anvil
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Personally I hate ports. It sucks up development time in making a square peg fit into a round hole instead of using that time making the game better overall. Case in point, Cyberpunk 2077. So much time was spent porting that to several different platforms instead of squashing bugs and polishing code.

vale marlin
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thus gtfo doesnt have a console port yet

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Pretty sure they arent planning on it for a while

cursive anvil
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I don't think it ever should have a console port.

vale marlin
torn ferry
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I'd rather they focus on making this game the best they can instead of effectively starting over on potentially a maximum of three new systems.

bright shard
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where does that even go?
i think i have redirects off or something.

fleet canopy
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Probably, yeah

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It's just a link to a rick astley song

cursive anvil
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So it is pointless spam

lilac geyser
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did someone take issue with the url lengthener?

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mooks

fleet canopy
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lol ye

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Kinda stupid though, was literally only two shit links

bright shard
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humorous as they are, shitposting probably does not belong in here.

proper wren
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Someone paid $4.1K for system build for RTX 3070 when the prebuilts costed $2.2K

fleet canopy
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: (

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Money begone

solid venture
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sigh, someone needs to stop the scalpers

cursive anvil
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So don't buy from them, encourage everyone to not buy from them. So long as there is economic incentive for scalpers to scalp, they will not stop and cannot be stopped. That is just the law of economics. Where there is demand, there will be a service for the right price.

primal swallow
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Can i run gtfo with a gtx 1660 super?

fleet canopy
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yeah

primal swallow
glacial thunder
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hey so im trying to do some recordings for gtfo like to make clips and edit them etc but im wondering how do i get like the perfect amount of quality and fps as possible

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I got it almost perfect but idk what else to put to make it perfect

abstract kite
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There is no such thing as perfection.

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If you chase perfection you're chasing a dream.

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Do the best you can do.

glacial thunder
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thank you i apppreciate it

rich oar
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define "perfect" most recent gpus have built in recording via ReLive or Shadowplay and both options don't really impact performance at all.

lethal stag
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Hi guys,

can this PC handle GTFO while using Bandicam to record 1080p60 video? (No FPS drop etc?)

Graphics Card: Asus 1080 Gtx 11Gb
Monitor: Asus VG248 144hz```
slim pendant
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I think it's more than enough

lethal stag
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Is thinking about getting a new PC, currently i5 with 1050 gtx always FPS drop during recording when alarm waves coming

lethal stag
proper wren
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Is fineeeeee

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Even 1440P will work

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But which i7 and cost

slim pendant
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Just a personal opinion, but try getting newer hardware, don't worry if it's kinda lower on performance compared to older hardware but higher performance

proper wren
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You can use me as an example I guess

fleet canopy
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Using Poddy as an example is bad

proper wren
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R5 3600 6C 12T, 3060ti 8GB, 32GB 3200mhz cl15. Im running fine on 1440p 144hz with no issues while streaming

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I plan to get RTX 3080 Doggo

fleet canopy
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Stop upgrading in the same generation

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smh

proper wren
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Never

fleet canopy
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Wastin money

proper wren
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Yes Doggo

fleet canopy
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Bad

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Send 3060ti

proper wren
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I keep 3060ti for now

fleet canopy
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yis

proper wren
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Or upgrade to 6800 xt

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I barely use Ray Tracing

fleet canopy
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same

slim pendant
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o_o

fleet canopy
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Tank performance for nothing since devs already make good lighting and stuffs

proper wren
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2 new psus, 2 aios, 3 hyper 212s and 20 fans stashed away

fleet canopy
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Well, I do like the DLSS feature though

proper wren
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6900xt beating rtx 3080 gaming smh

fleet canopy
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But I'd be perfectly fine considering I use a 2070 Super atm using DLSS to achieve 150FPS avg on medium for MW

proper wren
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Smh medium

fleet canopy
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Any higher and it just doesn't work for me, sorry ๐Ÿ˜”

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Isn't smooth enough

proper wren
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I get 10 fps at fly scenes in RE8

fleet canopy
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lmao

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Same

proper wren
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Medium High no ray tracing

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Mommy taxes

fleet canopy
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I think they do 10FPS on all no matter the settings or PC

proper wren
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Wait for driver updates

fleet canopy
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No

proper wren
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Yes

fleet canopy
proper wren
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Mods never come to this channel

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Uncultured pc Concerngo

fleet canopy
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mods are modders on gtfo

proper wren
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Stinky mods

fleet canopy
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yeah!

proper wren
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0 rgb

fleet canopy
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0% custom

proper wren
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100% Dell

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  • Warranty
fleet canopy
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  • Software no one asked for
proper wren
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Mc Ahegaofee

fleet canopy
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  • Free shitty customer support
proper wren
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Single Channel Memory

fleet canopy
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8GB of the advertised 16GB

proper wren
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Hidden Linusextips easter eggs

fleet canopy
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Segue to our sponsor

fleet canopy
proper wren
cursive anvil
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<@&408548765599793173>

abstract kite
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thanks

cursive anvil
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Yup

thick bridge
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Guys an ssd Samsung 980 1tb is compatible with the motherboard msi z390 tomahawk ?

merry bay
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yes

thick bridge
proper wren
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Yes but at pcie 3.0

proper wren
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I never expected Linus to play Persona 5 on the OneXPlayer

copper zealot
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So can i run GTFO on my raspberry pi daisy chained super computer?

fleet canopy
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No clue

copper zealot
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What about my GeForce 256?

proper wren
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Hmmmmm

fleet canopy
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Dedicated dad joke section

proper wren
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can I use the bathtub as a res

slim pendant
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lmao

fleet canopy
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I can't find any pink AIO and this is the only one I could find big_flushed

proper wren
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Spray paint it

fleet canopy
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Spray paint it even more pink? Good idea!

proper wren
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Watching him roast this camera is so entertaining Kizungry

fleet canopy
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Imagine, measurements of thermal paste is confidential

proper wren
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white liquid for cooling

sonic eagle
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The two games I play the most have suddenly dropped from 60-100 FPS to 20-30FPS and it's triggering me

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Is it just me or is anyone else having a similar problem

cursive anvil
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what games, did a new update break them?

merry bay
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KB5001330 KB5001337 KB5000842
these updates are somewhat recent and are known to cause serious fps issues. Updating further or rolling back are potential solutions

proper wren
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because screw titan

sonic eagle
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The games are War Thunder and Unturned
Before the 18th of May, they were running at the usual 60-80 fps

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But now they're both down to like 10-30

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It's not my drivers, so it could be a Windows update

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I have the newest update though

uneven stump
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average pirated windows enjoyers

lilac geyser
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looks like daz doesnt work on win 10, any idea what peeps use on win 10?

proper wren
fleet canopy
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ow

proper wren
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Build my own Kingdom here

fleet canopy
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yes

proper wren
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Large radiator to fit my window, large momm- pumps, huge noctua fans

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Hard line water cooling instead of buying an actual AC unit

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Doggo what a nice video idea for Linussextips

fleet canopy
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Noctua fan, big.

proper wren
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Fan.

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Waiting for new Noctua fanless

fleet canopy
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Dang

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Wonder how that'll work

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Surely though, this CPU cooler is better

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Like, it's from Intel so it's good ๐Ÿ˜Ž

proper wren
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I need 50 of those

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Reuse recycle

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Melt the plastic pins

bright shard
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I keep the crap cpu heatsinks around for hobby projects

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9v battery, instant portable item cooler.

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I also rip small heasinks before i send tech to the waste heap in the sky.

proper wren
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melt down the metal

rancid thicket
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I usualy scrap those and get some money im helping some scrapper with old pcs

proper wren
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All of my co-workers are planning to get the 3080ti on announcement Doggo

fleet canopy
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lol

solid venture
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prob wont happen due to scalpers

fleet canopy
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It probably could happen

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I've heard of people buying GPUs through their own company prices

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Which are generally lower than what the MSRP is

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But I guess it's now what's lower than what the average price on market is

proper wren
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Shipping Damage

opal bane
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Question: what is the best option to setup gpu temp? i have a RTX3080 MSI Suprim X

proper wren
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Poddy likes MSI afterburner

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and bios

slim pendant
proper wren
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Good thing I gave the customer the non broken box version

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Kizungry I have to RMA it

slim pendant
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Yeah, hope you get it asap

proper wren
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is fine we have 12 more Doggo

slim pendant
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:0

rancid thicket
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What in the fuck did they do to that case

cursive anvil
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Probably loaded the box sideways and in the bottom of the stack.

fleet canopy
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Yeah, sometimes they're just that stupid or something happened during delivery that it fucks up

proper wren
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Seen worse

fleet canopy
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same

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Bitwit's PC build giveaway thing but forgot about PC in car, wife drove and PC case is in total ruins. GPU delivery where there's a bigass arch on it, meme image

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That case up there is fixable though

dry hollow
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I can shed some light on the shipping damage, if it was loaded on an 18 wheeler truck you load up packages as layered walls. The package was likely a bottom box and the employee used the larger box because its the most stable for the bottom.
The damage likely occured from the retailers distribution center and I wouldn't blame the employee here, they have to work fast to keep up with the flow and we're likely tired.
I'd blame the work environment/culture on this

cursive anvil
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I have worked in those environments too, you can't really blame the employee that is busting ass on a time limit working in a hot ass warehouse.

proper wren
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At least we're able to RMA the products. Deepcool can easily fix the bottom of it

abstract kite
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Chips anyone?

fleet canopy
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Sure

cursive anvil
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gross, who even eats ranch

delicate crescent
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meee

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want chips c:

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in best case a 5600x becouse he is crunchy :3

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or the taste of an 3080 or 6800xt would be delicious

proper wren
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I count this as tech related since she threw her pc Doggo

fleet canopy
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kek

fleet canopy
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I noticed she has some psychic powers

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Still leaving the game even after crashing pc

proper wren
lilac geyser
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yikes

cursive anvil
# proper wren

Hell I remember when I saw one of those come into my old work

tacit nova
glacial thunder
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hey before i head off to bed my gtfo is being really like wacky like idk what it is but to me it seems like the fps is just terrible whenever i join a game and when im like looking around its like all choppy and laggy

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there is one thing my laptop did just kinda crash and started running slow out of nowhere earlier today along with gtfo and im not sure what to do about it because im getting really frustrated over this gtfo is my favorite game so far in life and idk what to do like i just cant play like with laggy ass motion its annoying and impossible to play especially if im trying to complete a specific rundown

cursive anvil
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What are your laptop specs

noble zealot
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This counts as tech talk. Will this fit in my car? Discuss.

wise pumice
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If you can dream it, you can do it

glacial thunder
cursive anvil
glacial thunder
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I am not so sure is there a way to check???

cursive anvil
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Are you using windows?

glacial thunder
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yes

cursive anvil
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click the start button and in the search bar type
System Information
open that and look for the following:
Processor
Installed Physical Memory
Total Phyiscal Memory
Available Physical Memory

That will give you a start

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after that do this and get the name of your graphics card

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That will tell us your basic computer spec

glacial thunder
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what do i look for in display?

cursive anvil
glacial thunder
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AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics

cursive anvil
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how about your processor and ram?

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black bars are just redacted personal data, so ignore that

glacial thunder
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i will check and oh okay

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Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3550H with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx, 2100 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)

RAM 32.0GB
Total physical Memory 29.9GB
Available Physical Memory 23.9GB

cursive anvil
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So it isn't hard hardware issue unless there is some bottlenecking issue. Try using hte CPU culling option in GFTO to see if that helps you any.

glacial thunder
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how do i use hte CPU pulling?

cursive anvil
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CPU culling is a setting option in GTFO itself. Let me boot up the game to take a screenshot for you.

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You may need to experiment a bit with it to see if it helps or makes matters worse.

glacial thunder
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ah okay thank you i dont have to restart my game or anything right?

cursive anvil
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It might also be an issue with latency with your lobby when you group up, I've had some games where latency was extreme and I saw all sorts of weird things.

glacial thunder
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this was when i was solo as well

cursive anvil
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The game will prompt you to restart if it needs to

glacial thunder
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oh okay thank you ima do it rn

cursive anvil
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Solo rules out latency issues

glacial thunder
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well it was still wacky when i was alone

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okay weirdly enough it was okay when i played just nbow

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but thank you again for the help

cursive anvil
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No problem, happy to help

glacial thunder
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I will ask for help if anything next time

grand imp
glacial thunder
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internal drive?

cursive anvil
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The normal hard drive your computer has.

grand imp
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SSD, or yes, the one that your computer has by default. Rather than an external drive.

proper wren
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Doc using too much bandwidth on Destiny 2

fleet canopy
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That's too muc

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h

merry bay
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I have 2 1080p twitch streams almost all day, whenever there's a dull moment one or both gets unmuted to check up what they're doing

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it's a bit less than 2MB/s

proper wren
proper wren
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Dota so intense my internet crashes Doggo

split trellis
proper wren
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Good ol cpus back in stock except 5950x

cursive anvil
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Chrome is running a lot of shit in the background to harvest your data and report it back to them.

carmine iris
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What vr headsets do yall recommend?

merry bay
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If you can, try VR as a rental or at a friend first. You might be very sensitive to motion sickness. Pretty much unplayable if there's any walking around or stairs in-game.

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Quest 2 is good bang for the buck(facebook account mandatory), if you want the best atm get an Index

proper wren
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Oculus CV1 is still a fantastic vr headset to have

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Bought mine for $200 from my friend, he only used it like 2-4 times then stopped

proper wren
hexed horizon
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so i get my internet from a wifi adapter

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and every time i turned off my computer and back on, it wouldn't recognize my wifi adapter while it was plugged into my computer, so i had to unplugit and plug it back in

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but then i figured out that the system disables it to save power or something, so i went to the control panel and selected the thing and

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idk it gets foggy after that, point is i managed to fix the issue, now every time i boot up my computer my wifi adapter is recognized and i dont have to unplug it and replug it anymore

dry hollow
cursive anvil
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I liked my vive when I had it, it just couldn't use the Gen 1 very well with eye glasses.

dry hollow
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You could get prescription lenses, that's what my friend did

cursive anvil
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I could, but didn't

proper arrow
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my Surface Pro canโ€™t run DiscordSetup.exe.

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can I ask for some help on that?

abstract kite
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Does discordsetup something, if anything like producing a error?

proper wren
proper arrow
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yes

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It says that it cannot run blahblah.exe

proper wren
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I can feel the wifi 6 and microsoft ads in my arm

merry bay
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i'm sure they packaged Edge in there for good measure

proper wren
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I rather have chrome to eat all my memory Concerngo

bright shard
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chrome has run out of memory

dry hollow
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Microsoft installed candy crush

cursive anvil
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uninstall it

lilac geyser
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uninstall microsoft

hasty prawn
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Weird shadows and type border when playing its like I'm looking through a visor how do I sort that and the flash light don't seem to light up anything playing on a rtx 3070 with ryzen 7 5800x ?

fleet canopy
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NVIDIA Computex Live in 15 minutes

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At 1AM for me

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yay

cursive anvil
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I wonder if they have any bombshells

steep monolith
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Question on System Upgrade.
Current System:
Motherboard: Asrock b450 Steel legend / Upgrading to MSI B550 UNIFY [already purchased]
CPU: Ryzen 5 2600 / wanting to Upgrade to Ryzen 7 3700X
GPU: Readeon RX580 8GB / Bottleneck / No idea for upgrade
RAM: 2x8GB Ripjaws DDR4-3200MHZ CR16 / another set.
Cooling: Basic Fans / Upgrade to Radiator for CPU [100Euro] around that.
New case for better airflow and cooling, around 200Euro.

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Main issue currently is overheating of the GPU.

fleet canopy
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How hot does it get?

steep monolith
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80C

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90C

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On high performence games

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Automaticly shutsdown

fleet canopy
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Is it cleaned from dust? Do fans work on GPU?

steep monolith
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Yes

fleet canopy
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Well that's weird lol

steep monolith
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the case

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is the main problem too

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I m using the pre installed case fans.

fleet canopy
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Yeah, there's some good quality budget cases

steep monolith
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they do like ehh...

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nothing?

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so the GPU does all work

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It even heats my room

fleet canopy
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Maybe turning off and back on will work FeelsDumbMan

steep monolith
fleet canopy
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70% ain't so bad ig

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unless it's idle

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then lol that's worse

steep monolith
fleet canopy
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But yeah try finding some good budget cases

steep monolith
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i have roblox running

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I had the redeon software installed

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and some game

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completly broke it

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I might reinstall it cuz thats the only way i can control the fans

steep monolith
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what GPU do you suggest?

fleet canopy
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For GPU I'm not sure, they're all so darn high on the price tag nowadays

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Finding a case with good airflow is pretty easy, since there's quite a good selection to choose from and some at a very good cheap price

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Although I'm not sure what's the price like in euros

steep monolith
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So yea installing the redeon software is helpfull

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thats the basic fan rpm setting for the GPU

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quite trash tbh

fleet canopy
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Huh, only up 75%

steep monolith
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Thats what i do

fleet canopy
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And it's still overheating?

steep monolith
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Very rare on division 2

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but i guess that was my room temperture

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Still heat management is done only by the GPU

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for the whole pc

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Worth buying at that price?

proper wren
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@steep monolith Go for 5600x instead of 3700x with B550. Sacrfice 2 cores and 4 threads but the architecture is worth getting. It slightly does a better job against 3700x as well as PCIE Gen 4 Support and pairs nicely with RTX 3000s

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RX 580 is indeed a bottleneck so something that is 3060 or higher would be best

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2060 super or higher would be nice but for cost is not worth it

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B550 TUF and MSI Unify b550 is good as well

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Stock cooler is already fine, but is best to go for something greater than Hyper 212.

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If your system is shutting down from the temperature, is possible that a few factors come into play

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Case airflow, what heatsink you're using, the thermal compound, the motherboard itself on how much it can handle, etc.

cursive anvil
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poddy schmauwt

proper wren
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GPU getting too hot, is a RX 580 so is not really surprising about the heat. Shutting down is another story. What PSU do you have?

proper wren
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power supply

steep monolith
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Not really sure

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around 500

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watts

steep monolith
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i got 8pin

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so yea

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550 watts

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ouch

proper wren
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550 wattage is usually minimum recommendation

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Third party card makers can get around that

steep monolith
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and my pc turned off again...

proper wren
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time to slowly upgrade one by one

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but I think is either GPU or your PSU can no longer provide much power and has really bad capacitors

steep monolith
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i guess its PSU

proper wren
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or the motherboard cannot sustain the thermal loads in VRMs

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the more crashes and resets, the worse it gets for the VRMs

steep monolith
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VRMs?

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Just asking

fleet canopy
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Poddy has big bwain

tardy bloom
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I'm having the same problem as @steep monolith but just with gtfo

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My pc build in terms of performance isn't bad, I get an 11 on the steam vr test, but I think it might be the PSU like he said

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I don't think gtfo should be using that much power though

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I think it must be some kind of memory leak

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devs pls help!

tardy bloom
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11 is highest score

steep monolith
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mid end pc i guess?

merry bay
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it's normal behavior for games to use as much as they're allowed. If not because of graphics quality it's from high fps.
When limiting how much your GPU works matters, the user has to adjust video settings + a framelimiter accordingly

tardy bloom
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I limited fps just yesterday actually, no crashes since then

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I'll have to see if that holds up

steep monolith
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Fps limitation?

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Jeez.

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Anyone knows a software that shows FPS ingame?

tardy bloom
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go to hud in gtfo

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you can enable an fps meter

astral bridge
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geforce experience

steep monolith
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I m using Redeon

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:/

astral bridge
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but guys i have a question

merry bay
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steam has one built in, just need to enable it

tardy bloom
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also, my fps caps at 60 always, even when I limit at like 70, is that normal?

merry bay
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are you in-game or in menus?

tardy bloom
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in game

merry bay
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most likely just vsync(matches your monitor refresh rate)

tardy bloom
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right

astral bridge
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so i purchased my pc last summer in july .i started to have this problem right away with the motherboard:when I try to start my pc, not always, but almost every time, the motherboard flashes some red lights on the bottom and stays like that. The pc doesn't start(just a black screen) but only the rams turn on their LEDs. Shortly after that, the pc automatically shuts down and restarts. Sometimes it does this 3 times in a row, but it s rare.

merry bay
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in steam settings @steep monolith

astral bridge
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my motherboard is an aorus z390 elite

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cpu I9 9900kf

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and gpu 2080 super

steep monolith
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Jesus

tardy bloom
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also I lied, doom eternal also has very high power usage

steep monolith
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So much high end ppl

tardy bloom
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doesn't crash though

merry bay
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what ram do you have?

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might be struggling to maintain XMP OC

astral bridge
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hyperx fury 2400 mhz

merry bay
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nvm should be fine

steep monolith
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2400mhz?

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kinda low

astral bridge
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i wasnt very inspired with the ram

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ye i know

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i want some 3200 ones

steep monolith
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i got Ripjaws 2x8GB 3200mhz DDR4 CR16

astral bridge
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i have 2x 16

steep monolith
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damn

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money short?

astral bridge
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no

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i was just too dumb

steep monolith
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oh well

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can happen

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My first pc build is not the best too

tardy bloom
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I want to play gtfo, I kinda want to fix this

steep monolith
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Need a new case radiators etc

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new psu

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I think.. i figured out my issue

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Normally i max out my RPM at my GPU fans

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problem PSU has low watts

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like around 500?

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My Graficscard needs atleast 550watts

astral bridge
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i think i have 750

steep monolith
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i should go for 750 or if i want to overkill 1000

astral bridge
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that might be a prob

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oh and btw

steep monolith
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I think its really the PSU because the fans turn off

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and my screens go off too

astral bridge
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i have fast turn on

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and still didnt solve anything

steep monolith
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wdym?

astral bridge
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like from bios

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u can check if u want to turn on faster

steep monolith
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Oh i have that on

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Faster startup

astral bridge
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ye

steep monolith
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my pc turns on in like 10 secs

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or maybe 8 secs

astral bridge
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mine s not

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like sometimes it takes much more to start

steep monolith
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Whats the windows on?

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SSD?

astral bridge
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ssd

steep monolith
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and the Game?

astral bridge
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all my games are on the same ssd

steep monolith
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UH

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uhh....

astral bridge
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i should get a m2

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))

tardy bloom
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what is your ssd

steep monolith
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can be a problem....

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I have my SSD For windows

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and one for games

astral bridge
steep monolith
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hmmm

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why everything on 1 SSD?

astral bridge
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cause

steep monolith
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You system can have a 128GB SSD

astral bridge
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like i said

steep monolith
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thats enough

tardy bloom
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huh

astral bridge
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i was dumb

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i think i ll get a 128 ssd for windows

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and install it there

steep monolith
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SSD SDD HDD

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Games launchers programms on 2nd SSD

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Data on HDD

astral bridge
steep monolith
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My game SSD is not very big

astral bridge
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hdd ssd hdd

steep monolith
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What

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What are you using?

astral bridge
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because the first hdd is separated

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in 2 parts

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c and e

steep monolith
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I mean

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System

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Which system

astral bridge
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wut

steep monolith
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win10?

astral bridge
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ye

steep monolith
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that does not look like win10

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bruh

astral bridge
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i have and app for monitoring my ssd and hdd

steep monolith
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really?

astral bridge
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and it changed the pics

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ye

steep monolith
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why?

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you have it already

astral bridge
steep monolith
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you dont need an extra software for that

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the hell

astral bridge
steep monolith
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why?

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just why?

astral bridge
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idk

steep monolith
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Bro...

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that programm is not needed at all

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monitoring cpu gpu stuff fine

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but the storage devices?

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Bruh

astral bridge
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my ssd is dying

steep monolith
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how?

astral bridge
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look at its health

steep monolith
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how long do you have it?

astral bridge
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usage

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last summer

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july

steep monolith
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Bro

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why do you trust those numbers?

astral bridge
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idk

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someone gave me this app

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and said i should monitor those things

steep monolith
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Omg

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Who

astral bridge
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the one that put the parts in the case

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lmao

steep monolith
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PRE BUILD?

astral bridge
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no

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ffs no

steep monolith
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Smh

astral bridge
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i didnt know how to put theese parts together

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so i called a friend

steep monolith
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eh

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why do you trust that software?

astral bridge
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why not lmao

steep monolith
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...

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i would not trust it

astral bridge
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exactly

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man idk

steep monolith
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because it does stuff

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whats already build in into win10

astral bridge
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where do i see theese things

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in win10

steep monolith
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theres no life expectecy stuff

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but the repair tools etc

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and the optimise stuff

merry bay
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all HDD or SSD diagnostics will say the exact same, it's only reading what's tracked on that drive

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life expectancy are very rough estimates. SSD's die after a certain amount of data written

astral bridge
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so guys

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i m thinking

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i want to get 2 m.2

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1 with 1 tb

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and 1 with 128 gb

proper wren
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why 128gbs

astral bridge
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for the windows

proper wren
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I suggest 240gb or higher

astral bridge
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damn

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why so much

steep monolith
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You sure?

proper wren
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Having 128 tbh you will realize that is not enough later on

steep monolith
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I use 128GB for windows

astral bridge
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bro only for windows

steep monolith
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Ive been fine

proper wren
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Sometimes you would want to put programs other than windows in it lol

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basically

steep monolith
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Example?

proper wren
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OS+Programs in one M.2 NVME

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the rest can go for whatever

astral bridge
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ye he s right

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but

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i have a question

proper wren
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My laptop has nvme 128gb and I'm already 10gbs left

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because I have to download programs

steep monolith
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I bought a B550 UNIFY and i can stick 6 m.2 in it

proper wren
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gamer

steep monolith
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Overkill right?

proper wren
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overkill yes

astral bridge
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there are 2 slots for m.2 on aorus elite

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right?

proper wren
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mhm

steep monolith
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Currently i use Asrock b450 steel legend

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2 m.2 slots but i dont use em

astral bridge
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aight so

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can u guys give me some good m.2

merry bay
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i had AutoCAD install 10-15GB's in the OS drive, despite selecting a different one. there are many others that like making temp files etc. and it just gets filled up eventually

astral bridge
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and some 3200 mhz rams

steep monolith
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theres a cheap one rn

astral bridge
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a kit with 2x 16

steep monolith
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1tb for 100 euro

proper wren
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if you dont use the m.2 slots is what whatsoever

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however

steep monolith
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let me quickly look in mindfactory

proper wren
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Do research on the motherboard you have first

astral bridge
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ok

proper wren
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See what configuration it takes for nvme/m.2 because it takes 1-2 sata slots

steep monolith
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here it is

proper wren
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P1 has great QLC and d-ram

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I usually stick to 970 evos, p1, wd black, etc

steep monolith
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m.2 are currently extremly cheap idk why

proper wren
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Avoiding 980 regulars

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There's m.2 and nvme

astral bridge
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so

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uatafac

proper wren
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Some m.2s can be built cheap than others but performance takes a hit.

steep monolith
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So how good is that m.2?

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Decent?

steep monolith
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tech profi

proper wren
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I'd say in B tier

steep monolith
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Good enough for me

astral bridge
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i m lost

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anyways

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i ll figure it out

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thank u

proper wren
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you can use Arconis program to clone your OS from your old drive to it

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is free

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if you have Crucial product

steep monolith
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Dont you need the same GB as before to clone it over?

proper wren
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as long as you have more than the amount of gbs

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is fine

steep monolith
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Wierd i tried to clone HDD

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didnt work on different GB HDD

proper wren
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Hard drives take a while with RPM rate

merry bay
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anything to know about the new samsung 980's? or just avoiding because of no test of time?

steep monolith
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ima check my B550 Unify realquick

merry bay
steep monolith
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Sorry i dont know

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I m a android user

proper wren
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samsung 980s is worse than 970s

steep monolith
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wonderfull

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trust me it was expensive

merry bay
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glancing at 980 reviews it seemed they improved on the slowdowns when approaching max capacity, assumed it was positives across the board F_Thonk

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interesting though

proper wren
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you lose read/write speed, you gain pcie 4.0 and all the other good bits, but 2 bit mlc vs 3 bit tlc

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

steep monolith
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i didnt understand any of that

proper wren
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The only thing good about 980 evo for me is only the pro series

steep monolith
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@proper wren did you do an education as system integrator?

proper wren
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no I work in computer store

merry bay
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TLC sounds good enough for a gaming machine, but yeah a bit complicated to quantify when not all aspects will be used

steep monolith
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oh well

proper wren
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Is a hobby for me

steep monolith
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I m doing an Education

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rn

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wait a sec

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do i have a m.2 prebuild in?

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i need my scrowdriver

proper wren
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sometimes m.2 screws are on the mobo or in a small bag

merry bay
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going back to games, appreciate you butting in every now and then @proper wren

proper wren
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Screwdriver 0 1 and maybe sometimes 00 is what I normally use

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On my ifixit lol

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btw keep in mind most stores arent gonna be taking 3070 ti and 3080 ti backorders.

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Supply and demand issue as usual

steep monolith
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hmmm

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i seem to have 4 m.2 slots

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what type of slots are those?

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Oh well

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I searched for myself

fleet canopy
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Yeah they're 4

steep monolith
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still not sure what m.2 i need to buy

fleet canopy
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Quite a few good ones

steep monolith
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I mean the ones with the right sizes

proper wren
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if you had 6 then I would be confused about the sata config

steep monolith
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yeaa

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i kinda forgot how many i had

proper wren
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I usually use 1st and 2nd m.2 slots

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3rd and 4th leave it for ssds

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I ain't gonna be running pleb speed

steep monolith
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maybe use all 4?

proper wren
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HAH

fleet canopy
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Imagine

proper wren
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never

fleet canopy
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Only if you are some guy who needs a fat lot of storage

proper wren
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I already lost 2 nvmes

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I have 2 860s with one being OS both 500gbs, 1 wd black nvme for games and 2tb for backup

steep monolith
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oh boi

proper wren
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planning to get either 1tb ssd or 4tb wd black

steep monolith
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thats atleast 400 euro

fleet canopy
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Samsung, Sabrent are two companies with very good M.2 storages

proper wren
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Linus simp

fleet canopy
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lmao

proper wren
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Everyone simping for Sabrent

steep monolith
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i was going for crucial

fleet canopy
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I know you go on the LTT store and look at images of linus in the ltt underwear with the ltt waterbottle

steep monolith
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lol

fleet canopy
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Crucial P1 is pretty good yeah

steep monolith
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Like i m still confused in which slots does what m.2 fit in?

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like theres 2 small sized and 2 normal sized slots

fleet canopy
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imo I just wouldn't care lol. I think the smaller ones are like the lower end ones? idk

proper wren
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some m.2s are like laptop like m.2s

steep monolith
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oh right...

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wait a sec

proper wren
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some of that is like intel optane as well KEK

steep monolith
proper wren
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you see them chips

steep monolith
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the 1. and 2. fit in

proper wren
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them smol storage

steep monolith
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the first at 2 slots

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i guess?

proper wren
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you can fit either or

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just move the m.2 screw in it around

fleet canopy
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M.2 2280 is the most common M.2 you'll see around

proper wren
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2280 very common

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master race

fleet canopy
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So like it's not really a problem finding a really good m.2

steep monolith
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racist

proper wren
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avoid pleb memory

fleet canopy
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racist? I know I am

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๐ŸŽ๏ธ

steep monolith
fleet canopy
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vrroooom

proper wren
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smh

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not believing in pcmr

fleet canopy
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PCMR? Only true race

steep monolith
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i m still pretty new to hardware stuff

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so yea...

fleet canopy
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kek

proper wren
steep monolith
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:C

fleet canopy
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It's kinda funny cause I guess the 22110 would have been more of a better one due to the size but lole

steep monolith
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M key

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yea

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its M key

proper wren
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Mayroo loves 22110

fleet canopy
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no

proper wren
fleet canopy
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Well

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perhaps

proper wren
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smh 2230

steep monolith
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also Ryzen 7 5600X kinda expensive

fleet canopy
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Also, one indent = NVME, two indent = SATA

steep monolith
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I was actually going for Ryzen 7 3700 cuz money

fleet canopy
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NVME is faster than SATA

steep monolith
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ofc it is

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lol

fleet canopy
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Would recommend just for having OS with dumb shit put in

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But lol nothing more

steep monolith
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m.2 for gaming xD

fleet canopy
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I mean

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I'd do it

steep monolith
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the money is a problem on my side

fleet canopy
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Easy cheap SATA m.2 with 2TB

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well idk what storage prices are now

steep monolith
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not that cheap

fleet canopy
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cause lol I haven't looked in a long time

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Because goddamnit price go brrrrrr sky

steep monolith
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types m.2

fleet canopy
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Mainly for GPU but bleh

steep monolith
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sees monitor

proper wren
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3700x and 5600x at my area is like

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20 difference

fleet canopy
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3700X 580$, 5600X 600$

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yes

proper wren
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$30 difference now

steep monolith
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Its 400 in Germany

fleet canopy
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570$, 600$

proper wren
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but like that huge performance difference

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and the specs

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le coom

steep monolith
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Ryzen 7 or 5?

fleet canopy
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b-b-b-but 8 cores!!11!

proper wren
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I regret getting r5 3600

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but I dont do much

steep monolith
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I m only finding 5 rn

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wierd

fleet canopy
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I got 3700X

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it's alright ig, idgaf but lol

proper wren
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I am 3600 pleb but I dont do much

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till I get to 4k

fleet canopy
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I'll upgrade it if it means it'll be some bottleneck

proper wren
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I wait for AM5

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and DDR5

fleet canopy
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Ofc which is like laterer after GPU upgwade

proper wren
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early adoption will succ

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Just like every other innovation

fleet canopy
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I wait for nothing

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Because scalping ๐Ÿ˜”

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When gone"?/

proper wren
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Ryzen 1st gen sucked, early dual core sucked, athlon succ

fleet canopy
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Everything succed

proper wren
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then someone fixes the problem ez

fleet canopy
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Everything succs

proper wren
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invest in 2nd gen

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then it wont succ

steep monolith
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Wait are we talking about Ryzen 7 or 5 series

fleet canopy
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2nd gen what

proper wren
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Generation

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You never want to buy the launch product and be the guinea pig

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like new new launch

fleet canopy
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lol

proper wren
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as in new architecture

fleet canopy
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2080 Ti? 2000$

proper wren
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#intel and amd

fleet canopy
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later on, 1200$

proper wren
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You want the latest RTX 2000 series? It sucks.

fleet canopy
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Also shit lol ray trace fail

proper wren
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You want the new 10th gen chipset it sucks hard

fleet canopy
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10th gen is

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Well idk

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yeah it sucks

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But it isn't as bad as 11th

proper wren
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10850k was the only decent cpu in that lineup

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11th gen is basically 11600k

fleet canopy
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Nothing but those were good yeah

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Imagine doing 10 cores

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Just do 12 cores smh

proper wren
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intel makes laptop guess what it sucks so badly the third parties did it better

steep monolith
proper wren
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5600x is ryzen 5

fleet canopy
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5600X is r5, 3700x is r7

steep monolith
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bruh

proper wren
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You gain more than you lose

fleet canopy
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might seem dumb but legit 3700x gaming not good compared to 5600x

steep monolith
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I actually wanna upgrade to ryzen 7

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:/

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well

proper wren
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Generation improvement makes a huge difference

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especially for AMD

fleet canopy
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ye

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They're just adding boom boom big improvement

proper wren
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oh baby the radeon cards

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they improved to beat 3090 in some aspects

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for 6900xt but shit at work

fleet canopy
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Hope the next gen gpu do coolio

steep monolith
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i dont like nevidia

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or intel

fleet canopy
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How come?

proper wren
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intel used to be great

steep monolith
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for me intel is for work stations

proper wren
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after 9th gen it went nope

steep monolith
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not for gaming bruh

fleet canopy
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bb-b-b-but 4core epci gaming !!

steep monolith
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4 cores?

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You kidding?

proper wren
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Intel used to be great for work station, still is for some

fleet canopy
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Intel has some good ones for world record I guess?

proper wren
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some softwares love intel drivers more than amd

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Xeon processors used to be fantasic

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now we have threadrippers

fleet canopy
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ripping the hole in wallet

proper wren
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I hate it when people would simp for more 6 cores and threads back then

steep monolith
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cough

proper wren
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I better pair my overkill threadripper with my rtx 3090

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oh no why is my performance shit

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Probably because the clockspeed is not good enough

fleet canopy
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Speaking of where ryzen 5000 threadripper? maybe me rock under caveman, but I haven't heard of any

proper wren
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Now you can utilize core functions

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threadripper gonna jump you in bed one day

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and yell surprise

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Cores

fleet canopy
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Uh oh

proper wren
fleet canopy
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But money gone

proper wren
#

jsjsjs

fleet canopy
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Gotta have my 6900XT and 5950X though, not the buttripper

proper wren
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I'm planning to buy a third computer case

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because fuck the budget lian li

fleet canopy
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smhsmhsmhsmhsmhsmh

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i have only use d d one!

proper wren
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is too loud and no good airflow

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but it was $90

fleet canopy
#

Carbide Series Spec 03 by Corsair

steep monolith
#

ConfusedUlf
Me who understands nothing rn.

fleet canopy
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Other cases are better than my case

proper wren
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Corsair Spec Omega probably the worst corsair airflow case I've seen

fleet canopy
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70$ case

proper wren
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you want 100 degrees c go for it

fleet canopy
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two fans

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lole

steep monolith
#

me with my kolink case

fleet canopy
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My GPU and CPU keeps cool so tbh it ain't that bad atm

proper wren
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I might want open air case or get myself a simp

fleet canopy
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Maybe if you consider 70 under load cool

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Or like 65

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Oh yeah I guess it increased by 5 now

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Gotta clean my pc soon

steep monolith
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thats my case btw

fleet canopy
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I'm still thinking of going for a Meshify C so lol

proper wren
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airflow where

steep monolith
#

I was thinking to get this case

proper wren
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reminds me of my define c

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quiet but 0 airflow

steep monolith
#

space for 3 radiators

proper wren
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lots of dust

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011 is nicer

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2 radiator > 3

fleet canopy
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011XL is like no

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Just 011 is good enough

steep monolith
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you buying monitor?

fleet canopy
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already got

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nuttin when I got 170hz

steep monolith
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I have 2 MSI Gaming monitors 27zoll with 165mz

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xD

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250 each

proper wren
#

his nut

fleet canopy
#

yeah

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Legit I never had anything more than 60Hz until summer 2020

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And I started gaming on PC in 2018 I think kekw

steep monolith
#

lol

proper wren
fleet canopy
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So pc is pretty good but like it's kinda trash in some stuff lmao

proper wren
#

poor lad

fleet canopy
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Tried overclocking ram

steep monolith
#

first time i used my 165mz monitor my eyes got bright as fuck

fleet canopy
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not gonna work for some reason

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Think mobo is ass

proper wren
#

my ram is overclocked at 3200mhz I aint doing 3600

steep monolith
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finally more then 60 fps

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mines at 2000

fleet canopy
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My ram is just advertised speeds

steep monolith
#

idk why

fleet canopy
#

What did you order?

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for ram

proper wren
fleet canopy
#

yes?

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Do you have a question?

steep monolith
#

bruh what

fleet canopy
steep monolith
fleet canopy
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That's VRAM

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For the GPU

steep monolith
#

xd

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wait

fleet canopy
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l o l e

steep monolith
#

i m not that good

fleet canopy
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VRAM is just video ram for handling graphic in game ig

steep monolith
#

wait runs on 2133mhz

fleet canopy
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yeah you didn't go into bios for the uhhh

proper wren
#

bios and change memory settings

fleet canopy
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yeah it's XMP