#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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i know the card can handle it
Wich CPU you got?
my old trusty 7700k
OC?
nope
Should think about if your Thermalreserves are good enought... (extra SingleCore Performance)
stuck on 4.2ghz no boost undervolted to 1.095
1440P is a good thing whit HDR, never seen such good Cinematic Gaming
Voltage is not important when its under 1.3V (for 24/7 Use)
K models are verry good selected, that means they life same time as normal nonK models , while the K modells are able to OC
and solved that problem
OFC CPU needed for ALL GAMES
i will promise you, a FullHD HDR Monitor whil lettin you Rage
Most of them are Smearing
in lowlight scenes
Try out a WQHD HDR 120Hz Panel, most likly Asus (Its expensive, but the right Model are f***ing worth it)
AoC
AlienWare
and for your Thermals, BOI if you wanna i send direct to you a Alpenföhn Broken 3 Straight at your home xD
But try the NZXT Kraken x53/x63
or the xX2 models instead the xX3 models (x52/x62 240MM Raditor ,x53/x63 280MM Raditor)
my thermals are okay now with the undervolting
also changed the gpus paste that thing it came with is just horrible
i will look into that monitor you recommend
it cost your Warranty if i dont remember false
Ye but that doesnt matter xd
i never overclock so....
It gives good Aircoolers for low prices whit an very good cooling power
OOOOF
Hyper 212??
yup
For that cash what it cost, BOOOOI you was able to get some better cooler
its done me justice CM coolers
Like the BeQuiet Darkrock 4
been using them for years
Coolermaster got some Products, like the Hyper... what is for LowEnd/Midrange CPU´s
My Ryzen got only 65Watts TDP
And even that got a AiO cooling
Coolermaster MasterLiquid ML240L
Its coolermaster, got BlingBling, and yea... it will let you Overclock if you need it
well pointless getting liquid cooling if i dont overclock
Nah not Pointlless
i always undervolt a cpu whenever i get it
Ye thats fine, but its not Pointless
a higher Cooling power, results in lower Temps, that result in more KI Boost , if your Hardware sense you got thermalreserves and the VRM on the Mainboard gives the "OK" they Overclock themself
My Ryzen got a 3.2 GHz Stock Speed, but mostime i see him on 3.7GHz and sometimes on 4GHz
yeah i turn that feature off on my bios
Cuz Thermal issues xD
its max is 4.2
And you know, whit the Rx5700XT your CPU bottleneck
If your CPU cant powerup more, your GPU will not getting on its Limit, whit a "humanity OC" you will get like 20FPS more
but im not going to replace it until i really need to
4.20Ghz "Never Higher as me" XDDDD
oook, as you wanna, its yours :3
4.20Ghz = 420 = WeedTime xD
well i do smoke weed so it makes sense XD
defo need one during these times
defo?
definitely
Hey @void perch . I was wondering if GTFO does use valve's relay servers for clients to connect to the host or if it's planned for a further release. I am asking because I found this from a post in 2018 so I am not sure if this correct: https://steamcommunity.com/app/493520/discussions/0/1729828401689995830/
I do experiment with relays myself on my gameserver since the game does not support any valve relays. I made a small page here: https://relay.apheriox.com and some people from like australia could reduce the ping by 100ms although not all. And ofc a big relay mesh costs a lot money, something i dont have :p
Ryzen 3100 and 3300x BREATHES IN ANGER
As far as I'm aware it still uses relays.
Wondering what I should improve next on my Desk
What more would you need than a mini fridge in the little door thing
Not gamer without mini fridge
Minifridge is on the bottom left of the desk 😄
lmao nice
I actually like the minimalistic aspect to it, the lack lots of wires, etc.
Move the computer off the desk.
And the amount of black/red fits nicely too
Either elevate it, or lower it, for more desk space.
i say elevate, put on that shelf above. show off the beautiful computer
You could just put like a table on top of the table, and have cables go through its legs.
One day I'm going to do a three monitor setup
Until this new version of windows stabilizes I'm sticking with single monitor. No doubt going at least dual has upsides, but any animation on the second monitor messing up refresh rates is really irritating.
Either killing dwm (also affects file explorer and other essentials for win10) or staying single monitor seems like the only solution today.
After some further testing, it appears the stuttering using 144Hz/60Hz only occurs in Firefox, and not Edge (Chromium) (or similar browsers).```
I use chrome and twitch streams easily cause games to stutter on my main monitor
I notice this too, but only for some reason when I change windows sound volume
Also it's nice that firefox does not go the route of using chromium
Quality variety is always nice. Having just Chromium across the board would be bad
Last I had chromium randomly downloaded, it was apparently a virus
hmm muppy maybe you downloaded the raw project? Browser usually build on top of chromium. E.g Chrome, Opera, Safari (?), Edge use it as foundation
Do I really need three-four monitors to play one game?
no
Pew pew thermal paste, let’s hope this brings my cpu down some notches
Nice!
What’s up with the frame rate drop during the “drop”? I also notice my cpu hits 55° when it rarely gets about 44°
The game is loading everything for the expedition during hte drop. Not like you really need those frames during a drop sequence
There are flying sleepers in the drop. You have to defend yourself.
You know that is a potential run down objective.... clearing the drop track for more expeditions to come through.
Or your current objective when you are dropping gets derailed due to that black organic substance from R1C2 Junking the tracks and your new objective is to clear it to gain access to the part of the facility you are meant to go into.

So what seems to be the problem @night jetty
@dense wasp awesome! I really do hope you like it! Clean the CPU and CPU cooler really good with alcohol, then get that on, then try thermals to see how it helps. It may be worth it to replace the GPU pads with this aswell, as long as the contacts are under 2mm of space
Yeah I got some isopropanol at the office, will grab that tomorrow
Oh lord... then be carful using it, pure stuff may work how H2O2 oxidizes the skin and makes it dry and odd
I’m really envying you that you can get this kind of stuff so easily XD
yeah I got one time silicone gloves I can use If I want to
should get some microfiber cloth or something for it I guess
Paper towel is more then enough, tho if you have one just give a lil wipe after you use the paper to make it clean as can be
yeah that's what I usually use
so that's good 😉
not REALLY looking forward to opening this system
Also inside the bag of thermal paste should be a little tip with spreader to put on the tube, use that to make a very thin layer over the top of the CPU, instead of making a line or X pattern
LOL I feel that... another bad thing about form factor is taking it apart to clean and for maintenance
I mean, I've built a crapton of ATX builds, but never an itx
ah yeah, your the "thin layer" type of guy in regards to paste? I'm usually like, a piece of rice in the middle
but I'll try the spatula this time 😉
I like the idea that there’s 100% connection through the entire plate, giving as much as possible contact to the cooler
And I’ve never built an ITX or mini ITX... worked ok a single ITX and put that in the same category that I do with laptops... that I hate them XD
And I’m glad you’ll try it! Just want your work build to be as good as possible!
haven't used them for years, cause I usually get coilwhine
so switched to EVGA & Seasonic
for the small form factor, they where the top tog, so got a SF750
and what does it give me?
Coilwhine
Oof... how loud is it would you say?
only when playing games, so it's something with the PCI cables I recon, saw something said it worked for him when he just switched what input it was on on the PSU
so will try that when I remove the CPU tomorrow
someone
*
loud enough for me to get bugged on 😄
Hopefully that’s a simple fix, for some it works for some it dosnt sadly
my gpu is connected to the pc but i cant figure out how to "activate" it, ingame i get like 10 fps, and its runs on my screen card not gpu
have you put you cable from the monitor in the GPU, not the Motherboard?
Yea you need to connect the monitor and cable to your GPU and not have it in your mother bored, it should work if you have drivers to the GPU
you probably have HDMI (if that what you use) on both the motherboard backplate and the GPU, so it's an honest misstake
I have a friend who did that with a 2080Ti
absolutely no clue why he was getting 1 FPS on ultra for gta5
ludvig, out of curiosity: did you try another wall socket?
and does the coil whine occur when you power up the PSU or when you start the PC?
The fact that someone has a 2080 Ti and did that... pains me
He said when he’s in game, so when you’re taking in more wattage then idle
Tell him I will trade mine for it!
XD
Better be hard hitting games...
not even that
I swear to god...
Oh lord XD
I've finally started using my 2080ti at least. just need to get the CPU temps to speed, then I'll be happy
Awesome! I wish you had better cooling to OC your GPU a bit...
lol
What’s the Hertz of the monitor?
yeah pretty much I hate to say
Was checking at undervolting the 3950x slightly using Ryzer Master, but alas, I'm not very savy with that program
144Hz native
175Hz maximum overclock
Try the new paste for a bit before undervolting, you may not need it
yeah
I mean I went slightly overboard with this new setup
screen I got was a :
https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_38gl950g.htm
doesn’t undervolting help ryzen
Ah ok, 144 is the minimum I’d say for ya for goodness, meaning 144 frames are needed for best results
or is it the amd gpu’s
It’s the GPU it helps
eh it’s not like I’m getting much out of a 570 anyway
I really wanna do a 3700x & 2070S build
but Thanks to corona, no job
so
Id post my dream build but it’s a tad outdated now
This is actually the first time in my life I was able to get my dream build - which is nice of course.
my next dreambuild would be a 3990X ;P
Also Ludvig, does OCing the monitor harm anything? Because keeping it at around 175 would be awesome
afaik monitor oc is usually fine
yeah, not that I've heard of 🙂
@dense wasp thank you so much it helped
Well outdated dream
let me grab mine
And good! OC it then once you get thermals good and done!
@night jetty no worries buddy. glad to help
this is what I wanted to do
it’s not thought through right
and isn’t what I would do today probably
yeah I gotta fix that one
PSU May be a little to little, just can’t do any OCing
Or do to much heavy task wise
Oof...

Soon™️
it has fancy phone charger on top
and it comes with a psu that I exchanged
that would be my build now
fancy
they didn't have my case thou
Looks nice! MB is duel channel I take it?
yeah
Ah ok, then the ram looks great for that
Plus for what you do adding another set won’t harm anything
LOL I’m dumb
As you can clearly see I don’t have anything to deal with ITX and smaller lmao
😉
I have a dream build now that's more a server I guess,
3990x with 256gb ram & 4x 2080ti's.
So I can run VM's as test machines
Oooo
My server design has an EPYC 7742, a little over 2TB of ram, and 2 Quadros
more pcie lanes anyway
Mine is more for processing and storage, tho it can have quite a few VMs should I need
Server designing is something I’ve recently gotten into, it may be close to PC designing but you’d be surprised how different it is
@dense wasp im so fucking happy now, i could kiss you nohomo
if you need 2TB RAM for a server you may rather tell your programmers to fix the memory leak :p
Hey fixing my old ass one I have is super fun, tho setting up freeNAS on a disk is hell XD
I don’t need 2TB... I just go overly overkill XD
maybe you are a ramdisk fanatic 😄 those exist but are rare to found today
also I said it earlier but really anything can be a server, even if it's on normal consumer hardware. optimally a server should be reachable 24/7 but it can be anything
specific server hardware is used when you need features that the normal consumer grade hardware don't offer. often this is memory correction, more pcie lanes (which I think is stupid) and others
Yep, but I mean specialty servers for industries and super computers, normal servers can be anything and have been made from everything, even as simple as a raspberry pi
yea. probably it's good for encoding and producing movies
but often this process is offloaded to server clusters or farms
My server design has an EPYC 7742, a little over 2TB of ram, and 2 Quadros
@rapid plume this is so hot
might be a bit too big
Lmfao wow
socmetics, i think it is
have you tried changing boot drives?
Sorry, it's not turning on
at all?
different wall socket?
Worth a try
lol that is probably it
you prolly got one wired to a switch or something
either that or your psu is busted
which is highly unlikely considering it’s brand new
Changed the outlet and no dice
what’s plugged in
I hope it's not busted
it would be easier to see
yeah you got everything right
that makes no sense
it’s power delivery for sure
Oh!
do you have a psu that is wired for America and you live in Europe?
Not the case
I'm gonna double check my connections unless I get any other ideas
I mean that just straight up doesn’t make sense
oh btw i meant to ask
since i just did a google account check and found out ive been hacked for a while now,what could the possible motives be
selling my data or something?
credit card information
or other personal information to get money out of you
google already sells your data
they aren’t making more money than google
true that lol,should i be worried about my credit card info
i did pretty much update and wipe everything they could try and get access to
do you already monitor stuff?
like, if you monitor in/out payments you should be fine
but still, keep an eye out
i did check my accounts no unauthorized payments
think i might have to format my pc tomorrow
well it’s just google though
shouldn’t be anything through that
do a check with like malwarebytes or something
yeah will do tomorrow
Hm
What mobo is it?
@worthy hedge if your credit card information got leaked do call the credit card center and block the card and request a new one. THat nobody has whitdrawn money now doesn't mean someone will do it in the future. often this information is sold to people who buy stolen credit card information. I would be on the safe side
Also 2 Factor Authentication. It really is helpful and you should enable it for anything important
@wooden inlet If you're out of ideas, try disassembling it and giving a test run outside the case. Having too few/many standoffs can stop you from booting. Best to know if the parts are okay before spending time with the case.
Thanks man, thats what I plan to do once I'm done with work today I think
Asus PRIME X570-PRO AM4 ATX @true escarp
No lights at all?
Check these leds when you test next
yeah i did 2 factor authen too
Hell yes looks beautiful!
Time for some paste
Noctua > AIO coolers
I’ll honor you by doing the spatula 😉
Wooza, aye!
Waiting on a couple of D15s as well, going to be fun
how my 'home servers' are equiped 😛
always noctua. prior I had expensive custom loop water cooling and after switching I kinda never want to go back to water cooling unless for a specific use case
Man this is ugly
Should have used a credit card, haha
And actually removed the mb from the case, was hard to reach
Feels abit too uneven? Ugly as heck
Try making a few passes with two hands?
Just to keep steady- LOL
I can’t get the angle cause I didn’t remove it from the case.. haha
Otherwise this would have been so much easier
1 sec I’ll just remove the thing ..
Just be carful
lol no way
Better at least, this is probably as best as it gets in these circumstances
Going to remove the excess of the edges etc
That’s fine, Qtips work perfect for that
So, let’s fire this up again then
Let’s hope!
I say.... it’s a tad cooler and stays around that mark till it’s stressed a bit, then it raises again
There are some that say you really should burn your new paste in
I thought the "curing" time of thermal paste isn't really a thing in modern day
it's a bit weird though, looking at AMD ryzen master, I'm at 50c~~
but in HWmonitor I'm jumping around 60
They may be using different sensors and or rounding the number oddly
Tf?
You sure you’re on CPU and not something else? The numbers shouldn’t be that off
maybe one is reading the CPU temp vs the socket temp
oh
the Hwmonitor I was looking at the wrong one, yeha
it's still as off thou
haha
lol
CPUTIN 
is that the correct one..?
HWmonitor is known to sometimes give incorrect values, HWinfo is better suited when you want a lot of details.
it's surprisingly complicated
Ye
For just temps Ryzen Master should be accurate enough.
The difference is probably averaging core temps vs others reporting the highest core temp
then maybe my temps weren't abysmal before, maybe I was just looking at the wrong spot 😛
Lol could be trueish
but it did rev like a mad man
I actually removed the bottom 120mm fan for now btw,
even though I had it as excaust
Oh? So there’s only positive pressure pushing air out?
I can hear it... like a damn frog is being crushed slowly and whining from it
Something like that..
How far does it travel? Any way to put something between it and you to hide it?
Quite a bit
I mean, I seem to have gotten it down like 5-10c from my old values
will most likely put the fan back in thou
Yea that’s a good idea... if you can fit it in and it will help that extra bit more
about the coilwhine:
Did you try another power wall socket?
Does the coilwhine occurs when you power the PSU or when you start the PC?
Also is it in a power strip or a wall outlet?
neat
I love my xtrmy
@brisk badger it's only when I play games, and usually when I got many of them frames. Seems to be GPU related
You could try simply unplugging the fans one by one when it happens, to see if it solves anything.

Isn't that shit new?
I'm glad I had the same brand fans for all my fans so that either they all fuck up, or they all last.
I think my cpu has been getting pretty warm lately. I have an aftermarket CPU cooler and it helps but my GPU is the only thing I can pull temps from and it's just fine but my pc heats up my room over time. >:T
Mhm I have. :<
Audio enthusiasts! I'm here to pick your brain.
Thinking about picking up a Schiit Fulla 3
Any thoughts on it?
@abstract kite
really nice unit
I'm personally saving up for a Vali 2
since tube units are more my thing
I'd love to get a Vali, but I don't have the money to get one lol
Will be purchasing a pair of cans as well.
What kind of cans?
Hifiman is a good brand for moderately good entry level cups! Nice
Anyone here know how to diagnose a sound from a HDD?
Usually if there's sound it's the platter being out of place or being hit by something.
my new drive started making the sound lol its irritating. i've had it for 2 weeks. WD Red Pro 6TB
That means request a new one, sounds mean something is wrong and it most likely will get worse the more you use it
make sure its mounter properly, and get some utility that can read the SMART parameters
Nice!
What was the issue?
Sorry, I don't know if this is the right place to ask but. My PC has been facing issues with its shortage from the PSU.
My desktop is a Dell xps tower 8930 with these specs:
i7-9700@3ghz
rtx 2060
RAM 16gb
HDD 2TB
SDD 500gb
450W
and I was trying to change my psu to the corsair RM750x 750w
I was wondering if the dimensions will be ok for me to place this PSU.
@upper palm Doesn't Dell use a proprietary mobo and psu?
you might have to change those, unfortunately to upgrade
but if you can find the type of PSU it should be as simple as swapping since they're mostly similar in terms of form factor
Right, can you clarify what you mean by type of PSU?
https://www.dell.com/community/XPS-Desktops/XPS-8930-PSU-upgrade/td-p/6131525
This forum shows that its possible... o:
Well I'll tell you what, pardner. and this is gonna be useless as ever, but give it a shot.
I meant my response is gonna be as useless as ever*
Thanks for the word Socmetics, I'll just do some more research for more insight.
Yeah, it just gets more awkward at least for me personally when it becomes like, cases from Dell or etc.
because sometimes I worry that their may be proprietary hardware which is why I said what I said
I understand, shouldn't have gotten a dell, haha.
Hm?
hi im sleepy i have no more information or things to say, have a good night lil one
Main possible issues is dimensions, or propietary connectors.
If you want to know what to look at.
my pc keeps restarting, someone knows what the problem is?
Have you listed your specs?
listed them where?
just restarting ?
or are you getting any kind of bluescreen?
man this Coilwhine from the new PSU is killing me
Is it a low-spec PSU or is it just unfortunate?
no bluscreen, reboots like every third hour
Nothing that starts it, it just does it on its own?
yeah
The connector, not the panel.
I know what could make it start when you're not doing anything, but rebooting without bluescreen could be a power button glitching.
What I would suggest initially is to decouple it, and see if it still reboots.
Windows Event Viewer might show why it shut down as well.
i checked it
If the power button has a short, somehow, it'd activate it, and that could shut it off "naturally", hence why I recommend simply decoupling it and seeing if it persists.
ok thx
@dense wasp that's why you get SeaSonic, friggen nerd uwu
:(
I agree with you 100% thou,
I usually only do seasonic or EVGA
for that specific reason
they betrayed me-.. :()
haha
[Insert CPU]
You may have a great CPU
and you may make me envious
but when you have coil whine
You make me feel good about myself
Is coil whine covered by warranty?

I use Antec because it was the best option for me at the time.
But I guess size becomes of important for the form factor, thus why availability is limited.
100% it's the PSU and not the GPU?
Fairly sure
I mean, I can always switch the GPU out and try with another 2080 ti
I have more at the office
Weird flex but okay
haha
in any case it sucks to have coilwhine. I think some companies do include it in warranty but maybe not all. If it's the GPU that has coil whine, you could technically undervolt it and pay the price of less performance (and thermals). I had that once too with one GPU, since I undervolt in general it didn't bother me but it's still not great
but it's a good idea, I have another SF750 that I'm planning on sending back, that I can wait on sending back after switching the 2080ti, then switching the PSU against that one I guess
I have actually undervolted this card slightly, didn't any difference in coilwhine thou
only seems to be when go higher in FPS in games.
yea it's probably at a certain amount of watt that it get's triggered. you could more aggressively undervolt and lose more perf or you can try to set a power limit on the GPU. I forgot how AMD and nvidia call this
basically say "give -10% power to the GPU"
haha
worst thing is that I'm in a 8m2 closet with 4 computers
so I'm used to a bit of noise
but this is killing me
Listened to the video, and it doesn't sound that bad, if so is that it's so close. Kind of like my phone charger when I have my ears close to it.
I know it would be an annoying sound in itself, I guess.
Not only the microphone, but I do have lost some of my high pitched hearing.
Or so is my headphones fucked, which after years of accidentally dropping them, and something being loose in one of the cups, might also be the cause.
that's one way of posting an affiliate link
He also posted it in bot lol
More then one 2080 Ti... reeeee
But yea try another to see if you can change the PSU at all... you need silence!
hes everywhere
I think it's about time we crack open some nuts 
lmao
Ah, it’s most likely my 2080 ti that’s coil whining like a brat
So, I am a huge corsair guy.. and I just figured out that icue was causing memory dumps... apparently its been a huge issue for a few people for a couple years now.
But you can return for a replacement or can fix that yourself?
@dense wasp Mine whined for a little and stopped after I "tested it with gtfo for hours lol"
Yeah I read about that actually
“You just need to break your card in”
Wtf is up with that
Haha
Lmao what
idk shady as hellll
@fleet canopy well, I got it for for free..
That explains it
Well maybe benchmarking it and having it do heavy load might fix, if it’s the fans
icue is terribad, especially the plugins they throw in without telling you, a plugin dll they installed with an update took control of my mobo lighting, they never even ran it past anti-cheat providers like battleye so whenever i'd run a BE enabled game all my corsair peripherals would crap out and keybinds be-gone.
... from nvidia
I can just try with another one, I think I have one more at the office
You could call them, see what’s up with that
But still, nice to know what’s causing it
@dense wasp Just benchmarking it for a while should do the trick, I saw your post about it was going DM you that I had sim issue but here you are lol.
I had a stock case fan with coil whine straight out of the box, might be worth checking those.
@void wasp he posted a video, you can see it's not one of his fans
ah roger o7
How does everyone feel about WC the gpu?
I'd like to but having to buy new coldplates for every upgrade would suck.
Im on the fence about it, my cpu stay's below 50C, overlocked i5. But I don't wanna get involved with changing the water every so often. But water, and bigger rad's help maintain those temps nice, currently I have 6 exhaust and intake fans.
I have my cpu on a 240mm CLC and that works fine along with a case rammed full of noctua's, cpu and gpu never get that hot, even if im rendering stuff for hours and the fan noise aint bad.
2x120mm intake, 1x120 + 2x140mm exhausts.
I'll eventually go custom loop, but for now this works perfect.
might think about a GPU plate after I already have a custom loop.
I mean if i turn my fans to 2000rpm it can be noisy, but it never gets that hot where the system has to do that.
If it is the GPU then that’s an ‘easy’ fix, what other 2080 Tis do you have?
got my royal z trident 
Nice!
I didn't know they could change colors kek
Only seen em in this silvery color
Anyone have any recommendations for a Graphics card? I have a 1060 rn and was looking at maybe getting a 2080 super (https://www.microcenter.com/product/609940/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-super-rog-strix-triple-fan-8gb-gddr6-pcie-30-graphics-card)
What is your budget? What resolution and FPS?
its around $900 and tbh i only really play 1080P (mainly cuz i just use my Toshiba TV)
Rip... then I guess just try the different ones there to see what ones do or don’t have coil whine
Maybe in the future but it's not something im looking at rn. i mainly want to play metro exodus on decent setting cuz my 1060 is stuttering quite abit when i play
most likely
If you do get a 2070 Super, you can afford a good 1440p 144hz
That be a 1080p 144hz
You could get a 2060 Super or 5700XT
You're pretty much asking for a GPU that'll not even use it's full potential probably
Since it's only going to be a 1080p 144hz
^^Yeh I also thought they were just silver/gold at first, but they are rgb
Probably just to be like "Yuh yuh we got gold!!!!"
the app they have to change the colors doesn't look as good as icue/dragon center but it has all the option you'd need with a lot of presets
Personally depending on budget, I'd recommend 1080ti for 1080p gaming, if your think about going 4k def go 2000 ser
1080 Ti can do 4K
I went for a 2000 series because I had a older build pc and I just went full blown upgrade's I pc game, for some game's but I mainly prefer console, although these past few feeks console has been really lacking in anything except BR's and there ok until they make dumb changes.
1080 Ti is like still a damn good card, like between 2070 Super and 2080
Yes, a 1080 could do 4k, but it wouldn't hit the benchmarks like a 2000
if your going to a 4k build, would make sense to go to a 2000 ser card.
unless there was a cheap 1080ti
You could get a 400-500$ 1080 Ti
Like on ebay
Craigslist
It's not too hard to find one
@dense wasp if it’s the GPU it may be mosfet related, good news if it is! Try replacing the 8 pin plug with a spare to see how that works
The whole cable?
How would a cable effect a wine?
Yes, some say it may be the connections to and from the PSU and GPU, Making higher then needed frequencies
Interesting.
Just something to try as I look into fixing it without replacing the card
Many are saying to run it through some hard benchmarks to ‘break it in’ but that should be last resort
is RTX 2080 better than 1080 TI?
By a huge, sure
I don't exactly know if it's huge though
But it's better if you want the RT cores or are a streamer
not huge
"It’s similar but super optimized with a lot more kick"
kek
Only thing good
Is
RT cores and better stream
So that's it
But I'd def recommend a 2080 unless you can find a 1080 Ti for cheaper
But for RTX, ehh
Recent benchmarks on minecraft RTX makes 2080 look like a joke
Because on 1080p, 2070 Super does better
But if it's 1440p, 2080 does about 63FPS, while 2070 Super is a 45FPS ish
Going to build it now?
Worth a shot with the cables
I did try switching the socket from the psu the other day
But not switching the actual cable
If not I’ll keep looking it up
So anyone ever have any issue's with discord randomly making a mic go all wacky and robotic for no reason, disconnects and then reconnects issue goes away.
Yep, that’s just discord being discord lol
kek
Yeah, but super super annoying was fine for weeks. Frustrating for both parties.
Now randomly does that
yeah, discord doesn't do well with large servers. On the other hand Overtone (https://gtfo.overtone.app) has much better audio quality that doesn't have that issue. I personally recommend using Overtone for audio and using this server for the discussion channels or matchmaking
:(
Just offering a better option for discords crappy audio and large scale server issues
rip
kek
I Don't use this server for gameplay chat, I use my own/
same thing i said
At least it works similar
I just
The UI is really weird tbh
I know it's very similar to Discord's, but do I like it?
plus you only get to talk to people you invite to the group
you cant meet completely new people
the overtone website has a promo image of GTFO and 10 chambers
I guess they use it as well as discord?
irc with 10000 times the overhead, irc never used 400mb of ram
also IRC offered more servers, as in actual different networks, not the virtual "servers" of discord.com only
annnnnnd open standard for any client to connect to
not just one propritary client
so i guess discord doesnt do some things irc does
oof
ALSO, on IRC hobknobs couldn't just decide to delete content out of my client
like past messages I had received
Do I also need to plug this fan header in? I already connected in the screen below to the controller.
I'm gonna assume yes
i guess it depends if you want that fan to work or not?
Srry for the delayed response back, went to lay our bathroom floor. One of the bigger reasons i was interested in in the 2000 line cards is because i found out that there was an audio AI that helps remove background noise (would be good for streams) and i figured going 2080 super would last me quite some time (i'd say 5 years ish) so it would be an investment. Though for the 1440P gamin what monitor would you guys say? I don't mind seeing whats around as im not buying it right this second.
i'd buy 120/144Hz refresh rate
at minimum
IPS panel if you want accurate colors and good viewing angle, VA panels if you want higher refresh rates
Is there a middle ground between the 2, or as it stands with our current tech its one or the other?
so i guess VA is the middle ground betwen TN and IPS
TN have the fastest reresh rates out there i think
IPS couldnt really get past 60Hz until recently
I haven't seen IPS 1440p 144hz
Lmfao
thats the one i have, BUT i heard in some review that while the refresh rate is 144Hz, the monitor is technically only capable of 120Hz or something
it was still a good improvement over 60Hz
500
but also aorus recently released like 4 or 5 other models, at the time they only had the AD27QD
i would take a look at those for sure before getting the AD27QD
i dont know the difference, some could be lower or higher end
So im afraid to ask how much that monitor is lol (i assume the 500 you just said but i could be wrong)
ASUS is a competitor in the high end monitor line, with the AG and PG series
er VG and PG series
at least we have options, most of the major players have monitor variants depending if you want 24" or 27", curved or not curved, freesync or gsync
those are the most important things to determine what you want before you go pulling your hair out over the endless varities
It hangs around 550-600$
honestly i wouldnt go picking IPS/VA/TN unless you really know you cant live with one or the other
oh my
But I can see it being closer to 500$
So here a question i've wondered about. What benefit is there to a curved monitor? when i've thought about it i would think it makes things look off (but seeing as ive never seen one i wouldn't know)
Well
It'd look better for bigger monitors
If you have like one of those mega wide monitors, that comes to a great benefit
oh yeah, also decide if you want a standard aspect ratio or an ultrawide
CPU Cooler smacked the shit out of me.
Does GTFO support ultra wide?
It does
thats 1 game
ultrawide can be tough because the HUD elements might be all the way on the sides of the monitor
There's also that
thers a difference between supporting the resolution and supporting it well
So if you want an ultra wide, and as long as you know it'll fit
I'd prob be fine with out ultra wide tbh. 1440P would prob be the highest i'd go, and that sucks warden
Alienware?
The strips look kinda like the Area 51 LED lines on the side to make the 3 spokes on the side
still the same coilwhine @rapid plume going to leave it going later, checking this whole " breaking it in" thing...
Sounds good! Just make sure to cool everything down between benchmarks
i know spending 500 on a monitor after blowing tons of money on components sucks, but its like the thing that interfaces with your eyeballs, so its kind of important
I could prob get the GPU, then the monitor after alittle bit (mainly cuz im just using the 1200 package to buy my upgrades lol)
kitty cat
Is a B450 Tomahawk Am3?
This video tells me I need these, but they don't fit in the mounting holes.
Okay so I don't need these Washers and tubes?
Generally you'd want those to be used
Judging by the video you sent you do, but i personally dont know i have intel
The video doesn't mention AM3 or AM4 anywhere so
It just says AMD meaning it doesn't matter
past that tho it didnt mention AM4
So just don't use the O rings
I'll still usr the Washers. Might as well.
oh man that cooler would drive me nuts lol. i dont have a screw driver that long
The DRP4 comes with a magnetic one.
I mean if it says only for AM3, then don't 
looks like it lol
So just skip the tubes.
skip the small rings, but keep the tubes
^
Skip the washers?
ya
they arn't supposed to. The back plate should pop through the holes and they go ontop of the pegs
the pegs should come through the board like this
You may just need to re seat the back plate is all
Well, do you still have the MBO box and the foam/ plastic that came with it?
Unsure.
because what you can do is take the mbo out and set the back plate in the holes and set the board down then the back plate wont fall out
srry i type slow at times lol
Dang
I'd say its typically good practice to set the base mounting point for your cooler while its not in the case. That way you can test fit it before you put it in the case
I'm not sure what you're saying.
Watch that video you posted till 2 min. at 32 seconds they show off how the extensions are meant to go on (the tubes) and at 44 seconds they show off the mounting points for the cooler itself
and how to install them
Than I mounted my board wrong.
Okay
Hmm?
that
Glad ya found it
you set that in the holes and place the tubes ontop of those pegs
I've never been more happy. I don't need to remount my board
That's good. Can you reach the back of the mother board while in the case?
Yes
Nice
Hmmm?
Not sure how to mount the back plate. Like it goes in the hole, but it won't stay there.
Yep, you'll need to hold it in place till you get at least 1 peg and screw set
Fuck, alright.
everything good @abstract kite
@lost kiln I managed to mount the Cooler. That was a pain in the ass and I hope I put on enough Paste.
I need to mount the other fan to it, plug it into the last fan header and start to put everything back together.
Nice, if you notice thermal throttling you can always just unscrew the 2 screws and check to see how the past spread (making sure enough was used)
I used a medium sized blob on the middle of the processor.
Than tiny tiny blobs in the corners.
@lost kiln plot twist!
I have to move the GPU to fit the fan.
Rip
@dense wasp like i said earlier that's what happened to mine, try not to kill it with benchmarks
I fucking hate these stupid fucking clip for this fan
If there’s enough space you could always try zip ties
For the DRP4? @abstract kite
Ya
Can you use a wide chisel to clip it in?
I mean, if you can grip it with any sort of tool, that'd be neat
The lead designer thought these fucking clips where better than a screw???
The problem is gravity pulling these clips down
Clips make it easier to be flexible for the fan position. Some people need it a little higher for RAM clearance or some prefer getting things as low as possible.
Also no empty holes if you're not using a third fan.
I recall struggling with the clips for a little bit, but it's doable.
Annoying, but doable
Wouldn't attempt with the mobo inside the case though
Forgive me but no empty holes?
gigity
If they went for a screw design
oh okay
i thought they made holes just for the clips so i was lost lol, and yes gigity
@abstract kite CPU or GPU?
GPU Temp or "Junction" is 41c
because for CPU, that's on the high side of normal
Idk how to check my CPU temp
Is that you bearz?
It is you bearz
lol
lift your case for a second to really appreciate how much metal you're packing there
LOL, i feel that when i lift my View 71
That DRP4 is ALMOST touching the glass
oh man them tolerances
i'm terrified of my case tipping over or dropping the case in transport some day. DRP4's weight might crack the board with all that weight in a fall 
Same, ive had to transport my system to other places every so offten and im 100% affraid im gonna break all the tempered glass
when ever i move it i pull all the glass off and wrap them in blankets lol
https://www.thermaltakeusa.com/view-71-tempered-glass-rgb-edition.html its this for anyone that wants to see
I picture myself after a LAN party, packing up all sleep deprived and muscles giving in at the worst time.
That's a lot of glass
Ya, and at that point i'd be like m8 im just gonna sleep over
Had a similar scenario already happen. Guy had a really beefy GPU, dropped his case and the PCI-E slot broke in half along with the clip
Case all bent up too

the slot still functions though, just not clipped in and the slightest kick would disturb the GPU enough to bluescreen 
Ugh, id just resolder a new one on at that point or set it up vertical and use an extender so theres no weight to pull it out
second option is 100% easier
Okay, Upgrade time soon?
i'm sure they'd like to, but they want to move places soon. Priority there for now
besides it's a 1060 6GB, still satisfied with it. CPU kinda dated
4670K, coming from a bulldozer still ok
oh ya
One of my concerns is that the i5 would slog down the 2080 super im looking at lol
It shouldn't be that bad, at least you got 6 cores.
But missing out on a small piece of the pie
True, rn im waiting for my pop to get his PC upgraded so i can take his I9
but ill need a new board for that i think
Wouldn't you just reuse what he's got in now?
His board only has 2 slots for ram and i use 4X8 sticks
He got it from ali express so idk what it can do safely
Hmm, it really could be anything from there
exactly
rocking 4x8 too, dual channel really can be a bottleneck sometimes.
If I'm above 16GB, and the game happens to be in the upper side of that, new stuff loads in with stutters



