#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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Saw it was 32 sec ago since release
lmao
Wack even the intro is new
Yeah
checks channels vid section n sees apple lowkey shittin themselves (probably idk but they def on somethin)
Wow the color correction made Linus look like he was dying 
why isnt the rtx ltt video on the ltt video upload page? https://www.youtube.com/user/LinusTechTips/videos
how did that become a meme again 
As in?
youtube cant update a webpage? sounds about right

Fiiiiinaly.
Where's the NSFW tag? 
Wow
Hahah
A PC!
In its glorious habitat
Is that an Alienware?
yeah
Same dude we talked to about stuff on shit lol
Had this for a good long while
Haha ouch

@dense wasp are you already done with your build?
@dense wasp Remember to use The Verge guide
Yeah!!!!!
Totally not shitty
Did it all in order, my CPU and GPU do 100+ celsius and perform great with 15FPS on Minesweeper!
Oh
to be* precise is cardboard
xD
So it seems uhh
I can't english anymore
70-80% goes onto the GPU, 10-15% CPU and 10-15% RAM
A N Y M O AR

Or it could be 60%
But eh
2080 Ti with a 3600, sounds great!
DDR4-2666MHz
Perfect
Hey @fleet canopy please do not emote spam ^^
@ornate ginkgo building tomorrow hopefully
Otherwise motherboard go bye bye
Now for the brace, really hammer that in
Like
Slam the motherfucker in that you'll never get it out
Nice.
Nice
Nice nice
This is a thicc box though.
No thank
:(
👀
nice cooler!
getting a couple of Noctua NH-D15 next week hopefully, for upcoming rigs 🙂
Give me the cooler and I got the DRP4 x2
;)
Double the cooling
Double the thicc
Double the epicness
Its gonna be a fit, but it will be close.
I have a Cryorig but I might need to upgrade it since
I don't have intake fans
and 2 standard exhausts
They also gave me a screwdriver.
Now I need to wait for the paste and fans
Oh and the alcohol
it didn't come with a paste?
It did not.
Nor on mine lol
Wia
What
I did get
Whaatta
It's an Arctic 5 density thing
Should have gotten it
Me?
I ordered the Grizzly cryonaunt paste like you said to order.
Yeah
Did not come just yet.
I was kind of surprised you didn't get a CPU paste to come with the DRP4
Omg look at 1:07 of that video they threw up thermal paste on it.
Ryzen CPU though.
3700x
then yeah, you're gonna want to focus on the AMD part
Hold on
lemme listen to this sick beat
Kek
wtf are you kekking, you chicken nuggie?
Sucks I had to go back sometimes to do careful checkup for setting up DRP4 lmao
The installation part of the cooler onto the board was a real fucking bitch
Putting the fans on was the hardest and most painful part of my life
lmao
Putting the fans on was the hardest and most painful part of my life
@fleet canopy
lol
Like no shit those fan holders were a bitch to put in
peepee
Corsair has a pretty good fan mounting system for their new air cooler... the only problem is the cooler sucks compared to its contemporaries in the same price point
How important is it to update your TVs firmware? I don't connect mine to the internet at all or use any of the smart tv features
Generally not that important unless you're experiencing an issue that the firware says it fixes, but not a bad idea to do an update every year or two. I don't think tv's release firmware updates often so shouldn't be a big bothersome
i would be able to tell if i act4ually got good release notes
there seems to be a new update about every month, and every time ive checked this year the update notes say "Improved usability"
what the actual fuck
hahaha. in that case then I'd say if you are experiencing an issue with the tv such as lag or something then give the update a try. if it's easy to do the update then can do more frequently but every 6-12 months wouldn't be a bad idea.
also there is no way to downgrade the firmware if you are unhappy with it
this is why all software needs to be open source
dont buy a samsung tv, dont be stupid like me
the tv is absolutely fine, but i think lg and sony have the superior product
Kek
i feel like choosing to call this a QLED tv is deliberatly misleading and attempts to confuse people into thinking its OLED
i almost feel bad for dinging them because its an ok product as i said, but they have lost goodwill with the marketing
ALL the tv manufactures have given the middle finger to consumers by actively fingerprinting whats on the screen and stealing this data
i'm supposed to be a capatilist right, well obviously they and me both recognize this data has value
right now they are stealing it and not cutting me it on the profits
whats this about
all modern TVs identify what you are viewing on the screen and send the data back to the manufacturer
the manufactrure sells the data to marketing firms
the only way to stop this is not connecting the tv to the internet, which means not being able to use a good part of the functionality that you paid for
i would buy a TV without the smart features but they dont sell such a device
what are you even asking
You said smart features, I don't know what kind of smart feature there would be except Roku and one of those TVs that give you ads every milliscecond
a baseline example would be a netflix 'app' built into your tv
i cant do anything with my tv that would be enabled by connecting it to my home network, because enabling this connection REQUIRES you accept that they spy on you
casting a phone screen, streaming from my PC over wifi etc.
the simple fact is this is a product that i bought, and i cannot control what it does
i either accept EVERYTHING or i dont use 90% of the software features that are built-in
and good luck finding a tv to purchase without these features that isnt cheap chinese junk or about 15 years old
US privacy protection laws need an overhaul
this kind of 'either dont use our service/product or we will siphon every datapoint we can get our hands on' is BS
i take this silence as a form of agreement
lol i guess that's exactly how they get away with it, not enough people saying they disagree with their anti-consumer practices
do you live on planet earth?
thats on the high end of the range
all the "smart blah shit" absolutely adds cost to the product
i can only guess, probably 15-20% of the price
you have additional computer hardware included in the device, and all the software development and upkeep costs
my personal data is not for sale
Roku
that is the issue
yeah good example look at the rokus and equivalent, the modern tvs essentially have that built in
they are moving in the right direction, but no one goes far enough with the privacy protections at the moment
right now to most people, all those cooking and privacy warnings only mean one thing to the consumer: "something happened and you need to click OK to continue"
oops i meant cookies
service providers need to be prohibited from collecting that data altogether
you cannot just tie in some warning "please click to continue" and say "well the consumer agreed to it"
eff.org guys, anytime someone asks me what i want for a birthday or christmas i just say donations to EFF
Can’t buy a 4K tv without Smart Features in a big box store
Kek
Can buy a 4K TV without it if it's one of those Asus ones with "Gaming" every goddamn where
are those even TVs or computer monitors?
TV if they're massive
Kek
At least TV is getting to the good part of gaming - 144Hz, going close to 1ms
I worked at Best Buy for like 3 years. If you’re gonna get a 4K TV, just buy a good one. Don’t cheap out and buy a $500-$600 one, invest into it, 120hz, all that shit. You’re just gonna return it. Any TCL model is troublesome, honestly Sony 900G is the way to go that thing rocks
Still too expensive
Yeah
You’re looking $1200 for something like that
Best Buy tho DOES have a good credit card
Yeah but it could be with a bad panel, or somewhat small
No it had really specs
CAD the inferior currency
Its just liquidation
No you need to spend $1200 on a Monitor.
This one Monitor will cost you an entire Mid-High End PC build, but is def worth the price. Kappa.
But can they both run Crisis Remastered?
It could do a difference in 4K
When does Crisis Remastered come out?
Darn~
I'm hyped for it. even the original version looks great nowadays. But i hope they upgrade the Gameplay on the later levels.
You should try it, you get it super cheap.
Get what super cheap?
I have it wishlisted lol
got Crisys way back then when i bought my GPU
D:
Need from Origin??
It was regular 600 got it on sale for 200. Im a college student
lol
forget 3 xD
Damn
but 1 should be played
Still looks awesome.
I wonder if the remake will be playable on ultra settings, or if they go all in and do something special
Ryzen 3 3100 and 3100x rumors OoOOooOooo
so uh
what is this thingy
i don't get it
the tick and cloud logo smth
someone please explain
and if it a "x" is that mean my file is ok or what
they're OneDrive sync indicators. check mark means it's downloaded locally, cloud means it's available online so OneDrive will download it when you want to open it, an x would mean that either your OneDrive is full or you're offline so that file can't be synced
radiator
Massive
What's the black thing for?
The snuggness of the radiator vs chassi
PCI bridge
Or whatever it’s called
Or, what black thing? The whole thing is black 😉
Mayo, that’s the pci risee
Ah
It at least boots!
Now why does it look like a paper 
Hey, then you did the 2cm riser
Yet to install windows on it, I was nice and let a friend borrow my win bootstick I always carry on my keychain, so I need to@make a new one ;0
Because who doesn’t always have a win bootdrive ready..
at least its easy to make one if you have a spare usb
damn @dense wasp that is really nice
wow!!
2080 Ti I cri
Why cri
you won't get it, muppy
:(
W h y ? ? ?
If it's the fact he has a 2080 Ti, that's kind of ehh
Rather would have the 2080 Super instead of the Ti for reasons kek
Mm
thank you
You are welcome cute lil pup
I cri because I’ll never have one
I drooled over a 780 Ti some time ago, like some holy grail. Few years later got a 1060 6GB which is nearly identical in games but with less heat and cheaper.
If you pursue it, you can get pretty close to a 2080 Ti or better in a few years too.
Yeah
Probably a 4070/4080 could beat a 2080 Ti
Seeing how it might go, I probably will just skip the whole RTX 3000 series altogether and get an RTX 4080 maybe
Unless my 2070 Super decides to die on me or anything that's irreversible
The 2080 Ti isn't really that impressive to me anymore lmao, since the 2080 Super seems to be an even better card to get
It’s cheaper, that’s the only good thing, otherwise it’s inferior in every other way
Clocks mean nothing to me since I change them anyways
2080 Ti has like
1545-1635 boost clock
14Gbps Memory speed
Then 2080 Super has 1815 boost, 15.5 Gbps mem speed
Sure, not a lot
But it's still much better imo
A 1080 Ti already is enough for quite a number of modern games to run at 4K 60fps almost reliably with setting tweaks. A 2080 Ti can squeeze you a couple more very gradual settings with more reliable fps.
You pay a lot more, but don't really get that much of a difference in results.
You don't enter higher refresh rate territory yet, you don't get ultra settings either.
It sounds stupid, but imo the 2080 Ti is just s stupid card to get haha
And that’s fine, it’s called an opinion for a reason
If it's for rendering stuff like Blender, sure I guess
Everyone has one so ye
Everyone has their own priorities and targets. Mine was missed with the 2080 Ti
I mean if we are talking top cards might as well throw in a RTX Titan XD
The RTX Titan
A 2080 Ti but more gigs of VRAM
Or a Quadro without its driver support
Ugh.
Can’t make up my mind on how big c: should be
That depends
If I had money to burn, I'd go for a 2080 Ti though 
I have to make a long list of justifications until then
Os and programs. Dev work usually takes a lot of space as well
How much usually?
How much space do you have in total? And how you ask that makes me think you are running RAID
500GB is my minimum unless really cutting corners for price, 250GB
But 750GB sounds good for C:
c:
Running Windows?
Windows and some other program for work
Just your pagefile and hyberfil could be around 100GB with your 2x32 
Installation of windows took all of 2 minutes. Yay
5gb/sec read/write speed, whaddup 😅
Yep M.2 is the bomb dot com for boot drives
Oh damn
Those are already too expensive lol
Why not go for the best M.2? Or was that out of price range?
PCIe 4.0 is already one of the most fastest you can get
And a PCIe card is like way too expensive lol
This one was way to expensive, but since all other parts where top of the line
I figured wth
lmao
Going all the way is a tough decision for me because I hate spending money on upgrades when I can survive with what I have. I blame my parents for that. LOL
Why your parents?
I have never built a top of the line pc for my self before, and it’s for work 🤷🏻♂️
So company dollars
Because they'd always say "don't waste your money".
being frugal is good, but if you're going to get something nice, it's better to go all out and make sure every component is equally powerful
On the other hand, if it's company money... 🤑
But you should always consider if it's actually a lot more performance than what you have
If it's not a lot, then don't lol
True, but I always feel the need to upgrade my RAM even though I could probably use a better monitor first.
What monitor do you have?
48 GB of ram can do that
What are PC spec?
And you really should consider going for 1080/1440p 144hz
All I'd need is another G.Skill set, but 2x16GB instead.
Hm
Yeah, I've been looking into 1080p 144hz with G-Sync compatibility (or regular G-Sync).
Since I just bought my 38” screen as well. You might say I’m treating myself after theGTFO release 😛
Yeah, but I have a GTX 1070 and don't plan on going AMD yet.
You don't need AMD card to do freesync
What resolution is that?
kek
Yeah, but it doesn't mean it will 100% work with NVIDIA cards.
So?
If I'm wasting money on G-Sync, I want it to work and be guaranteed by NVIDIA.
I haven't seen a single Gsync on 1440p 144hz, but I know it'll do it's job nicely
Gsync is miniscule on monitors I've seen, only barely a few have it on 1440p 144hz
You don't need to worry at all
I can also blame it on that I want to see if I can get our times down when building gtfo 😉
Only reason I'm looking for G-Sync compatibility is because Freesync could be used on my Xbox.
I wonder if that was a struggle for the people who built Crysis.
Coulda used my new server to test that ludvig.
I'm kinda curious how quick a build could be done on mine too.
I've seen Gsync monitors
You should do a competition to see whose rig could build it faster. 
It's literally a crappy premium on it lol
Yeah, I know NVIDIA is greedy.
I am glad I can say I helped with the PC XD
At the very least, I want G-Sync compatibility.
i bet ludvig's will be if it's more CPU heavy since he's got more cores than I do, but I can throw 192 GB of ram if I wanted
Yours is Intel, right, D0c?
I can at least throw 64gb of ram 😉
yeah intel
Any freesync monitor will work
weak
Can I borrow some ram? XD
I don’t know how iffy it would be seeing it’s a local server d0c
Not just any Freesync monitor.
The "Gsync certified" is a fucking lie lol
I've seen people complain that G-Sync either didn't show up when configuring their monitor or it didn't work at all.
This is with the "compatible" monitors.
"The first monitor we tested was the Acer KG251QF, a budget 24-inch 1080p monitor with a 30 to 144 Hz refresh rate range. This is a great monitor for the price and it’s safe to say we found no issues with the monitor working with adaptive sync enabled on an Nvidia GPU. No flickering, no blanking, nothing. It worked exactly the same as when hooked up to an AMD GPU. So that’s a success."
"The second monitor was the BenQ EL2870U, a 4K 60Hz panel with a narrow 40 to 60 Hz refresh rate range. This monitor also worked perfectly, although the refresh range is too narrow to support low framerate compensation, or LFC. So when frame rates dropped below 40 FPS, adaptive sync no longer functioned and either tearing or stuttering was introduced depending on whether you had Vsync disabled or enabled. This is expected behaviour and also happens with an AMD GPU. Again, we’d class this as a success."
"The next monitor was the Viotek GN24C, another 24-inch 1080p monitor, this time with a VA panel and a 48 to 144 Hz refresh rate range. Again, this monitor worked perfectly, and due to the large refresh rate range it also supported LFC."
It's literally perfectly fine
If you ever do get the problem, "I think i've found the solution (not my idea but workjed for me) after months and hours of searching for a fix. In windows, turn off the option for your monitor to turn itself to sleep under your energy settings. So go to your advanced energy settings and set "Turn Off the Display: Never". Spread the word if it works ;)" might work
I'll wait and see if there's any good 144hz monitors that go on sale, but that might not be until Cyber Monday.
Also, I tried the Windows monitor calibration, and it fails every time. 😄
I just got this one and it's really nice
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-AG352UCG6-Monitor-3440x1440-DisplayPort/dp/B07BMVNJZP
I’d say always wait till Black Friday-Cyber Monday to buy components
Saved $800 on my build by doing that
That price is a no-no lol
Thing is, most PC parts usually don't go on sale during the biggest sale days of the year.
RAM sticks, GPUs, and usually CPUs rarely go on sale.
The only exceptions are usually lower-end variants that have been collecting dust in warehouses and the manufacturers want to get rid of them.
Mine is a budget build so
Mine was a pre-built, but I also re-built it myself. 😄
I don’t want to share what I got 😛
you've got a great monitor lud
What resolution is that monitor, ludvig?
3840x1600
1600p, hm
All I got is a shitty 1080p 60hz ASUS monitor and a 4k 60hz Samsung monitor.
4k monitor, hm
I want to know what you have more now Lud
Also do you have a PCPartPicker list of your build?
Think I listed it here recently.
3950x,
2080ti,
64gb ram,
Noctua lh12
ASUS x570-I gaming
2tb seagate firecuda 520 m2
All packed inside a louqe ghost s01
Now why the form factor build? Or just felt like it because it’s cute? Lol
Erhm
Because SFF is cool?
..yeah, cause I could..
That’s fine lol
Wanted to cram a much power into a small package to see how if it’s feasible in terms of thermals etc
Best thing is easy to carry I guess lol
I personally like big because I can keep thermals down as much as possible, but hey if you can go small and have the money for it try it!
Never hurts to try if you can
and here i have a server rack that's 5 feet tall and about as large as a fridge in my living room
Haha
All that raw power.
Hell yea
hnnng
You need it lol
At least you can use it all
more than 1 numa node?
Have a good nom then!
Hey everyone. Just a quick question; Does GTFO support triple-monitor with the HUD staying in the middle screen?
I recall seeing someone post a screenshot of a triple monitor set up
So assuming my memory hasn't faltered, most likely yes
Could be possible, but probably done somehow not in the game's setting
I'm not gonna dig for the screenshot though 
Although you could just do a non-full screen and stretch that wide if that's possible
Well you can do that with Adredaline software/Nvidia Control panel I'm sure
Or it could be set to an amount of resolution like World At War non-fullscreen
I wouldn't be surprised if all 3 were connected and set to make it think it was just one monitor
That's how it works
It sets the resolution to the combined resolutions of each monitor
Though now that I think of it, by Hud they likely meant the ammo counter and stuff
On a triple monitor set up that would be on the far right
That's pretty much the HUD kek
I was thinking of just the health
You should be able to have it in middle
Which is already bottom center
Probably the whole game looks normal, but the hud is wack, so you got health bar going from the left monitor all the way to the right lmao
That's how anyone gets more than 100% health /s
It scales with the resolution
So I don't think it would stretch from one to the other
I guess I could try it with my two monitors
Would not be nice unless the bezel is almost not there
I've never done multi display for a game before, so I dunno how to get it to work 
wait do i need mod permission first for putting it here?
Not really allowed to request for money
That's not permitted regardless
ah sorry its gone now
Nice steak though
thanks, think itll work?

I know this isn't the best case in terms of performance checks
but:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/26886990 😄
Still a good set of tests and results!
No OCs I take it also?
Since it’s in a mini
no OC, I'm probably going to undervolt it since it's running a tad hot actually
Hot on what? Or you can’t tell due to distance?
If you can’t tell try undervolting the CPU first, then visa versa
To loud?
aye
so undervolting that a tad in MSI afterburner, would get it to calm down just a bit
Ah, just be carful and make small adjustments to each, you want as little undervolting as you can get
Have a temp in mind for both?
I’d say shoot for 65 and under
CPU can take a tad more, but try to keep the GPU cooler
yeah I mean, cooler the better
but since i'm running this in a small formfactor, I have to be flexible as well 😄
Ideally you want it around 40 at most, but with how small I’d say a min of 60 would be phenomenal
What thermal paste did you use if I may?
yeah that's most likely not going to happen as things stand now 😄
but I'll see what I can do
Noctua provided 🙂
The one that comes with the cooler?
yeah, I usually go for an artic silver or something like that, but I've honestly not really noticed a difference
Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut is my go to paste, by far the best I know of if you aren’t delidding
Other then replacing paste, I’d say try taking the GPU appart and replace the pads with ether a good paste if it’s a tight fit (if not I have a few other suggestions) if you end up having to undervoltage it to much
but I'm going to give it a bit a see how it goes,
could be I switch over to a bigger case - with a noctua Dh15 instead 🙂
If it turns out to be to underclocked to be as good as it can be, if not just keep making little tweaks when you can and test it out!
I mean I might need to switch the paste anyway to see If I can get the idle down, It
's idlying higher than expected now when just using as normal
Yea that is the safest bet, start with hardware before you mess with clocks to much
or, idling and idling, I'm using the computer and working, so I'm not actually idling
but I'm still at like 70c
I mean if it jumps to around 75 during moderate load I’d say it’s fine
But if it’s idling there then ehhh it’s better to try to get it lower
Also sorry if I’m bugging you while you work!
no worries, this is work 😉
Eyyy nice
Also I’m sorry if I seem rude to cut the chat short then but I need to attempt sleep, haven’t the past day and a half and it’s 04:15 so I need to try lol
Thanks! Wish you luck with getting your thermals down! I’ll be sure to check in when I can to see how things are!
And it may seem redundant but if you need anything feel free to DM, I respond faster with that
🙂 absolutely!
Ok, so I mighta just fucked up. I saw a really good deal on a 5700xt so I bought it. After researching more I found out that this card has virtually no memory cooling and breaches the safe temperature limit. The Evo card has fixed these issues but I'm pretty sure I didn't buy the Evo edition. I'm hoping that it just runs fine.
you think the engineers produced something that lasts a month so people can all RMA it?
ASUS did that with their old 5700 XT line up, but they had to do it for free... in US only
ASUS TUF. it's not blower style. just has no memory cooling
that sounds silly IMO. those GPU's are tested before they go out. surely one would have detected 120° on the memory 😉
Oh no.
That's actually one of the worst performing 5700xt cards out there in the market
I am aware, mainly because the poor cooling
well @crisp sage if you are worried: You can buy cooling pads extra from ebay or somewhere
pretty much
I always have like 100pcs cooling pads lying around 😄
Just beware you will void the warranty if you do put cooling pads
I also have a asus 5700xt 😢
@brisk badger strix?
or the tuf?
i think it was the strix one
I wonder if you can contact ASUS about it to get an RMA or contact the store you got it from
it eats more power than any normal 5700xt
you could just say the gpu doesn't work 😛
dat a TUF
mhm
no it was the strix, googled it
ohh those are generally good cards
Fun fact is ASUS is suppose to have the best power efficiency out of all other brandings
lol
i would say too good. they eat more power than they need
But idk, if the temperature exceeds what it's supposed to be can I give it back to asus? will they do anything?
not the strix one. it eats like 170-180watt wheras others consume ~150w
tbh I wouldn't worry in the first place
why.
Yeahh, but I also lost 585 dollars if it breaks ;-;
Contact ASUS about it lol
but you get a new one :p
personally I do not think it'll break
you can open up the GPU and check. maybethey added now the pads
I have had 2 Asus cards, both of which have been amazing, hopefully I'm not disappointed.
@brisk badger thats what I hope
My 2070 strix broke and I only had it for 5 months lol
@proper wren how
reflash the vbios
i bet money it'll work again
is the card itself
i don't see a problem 😂
I already got the new one
you sell the old one ? 😛
we not gonna talk about how your still playing a game like that
hell nah I got a brand new model from ASUS
biggest problem for me
It killed my M.2
artificating usually does not mean your gpu is dead
i had to work for many years in computer support and service.I recently checked the list. over 130 "defect" reported GPU's. out of 130 only 12 we really could not save
okay.
yea vendors will not really check them, takes too much time
why lmaooo
ASUS was aware of it and I didn't bother replacing it lol
it is not a good year for gpus xd
well not replacing more like I was too lazy to go back to workplace and get a new one
well that could be an issue. nvidia ha some interesting way of deciding what GPU it is in the end
working in store
most of our defects come from Gigabyte non windforce
EVGA never or very rarely
gigabyte I hate by far the most
what is generally wrong with them?
when i worked in 2013~ they were cheap, they were bad and they were bad
I've never had gigabyte anything.
Gigabyte is known for having shitty gpus non windforce
i had 6 gigabyte 7970's for 'reasons'
cheap as heck
worst bios, worst thermals worst everything
Most of my system components are Asus tbh, generally reliable
EVGA is god tier, Zotac cards you cannot overclock
the very high end Gigabyte motherboards are reliable imo/ some
my dumbass bought a thermaltake psu, oof
i do like asus too, especially for mobos. I like their hilarious overclocking tweaks, some of them noone ever understands what they do
@brisk badger I've got a b350f Asus strix
this fucking company still producing them? (thermaltake)
mhm
Thermaltake still producing shitty aios
it was fully modular so it can't be horrible
have a thermaltake psu from 2008~. fucking disgusting piece, it's the emergency emergency psu
b350-f I used to have but I have b450-f now
Jesus
Thermaltake psus are the worst
I see customers (cx) want to buy them I'm like
WHY DO YOU NEED A RGB PSU
get a bronze rated from deepcool
deepcool is trash psu but at least is bronze rated and more reliable than thermaltake
Seasonic and Fractal Design psus are Mmmmmm~
the tt one I ordered was bronze rated 80+ plus I think
i really wonder if thermaltake producing the psu's themselves or if they just slap the logo on it
Let me bring out one of the customer online orders
thermaltake everything is kinda nasty
hide his name 😋
2700x + Vega 56 + 16gbs ram (Cheapo brand) + B450 mobo from gigabyte (Cheapest mobo) + Golden field 500w non certified psu ($35USD) + 1TB HDD
well more like $25 PSU
I also had another customer that wanted 3900x to play... League of Legends... with 2080ti...
in 1080p
most cheap pre-builts use Chinese PSUs.. both my brother's and my friends have really cheap shitty ones
I've got a r7 3700x with a 1060 6gb rn. it's okkk,
the vega's they are quite power hungry 😮
I asked do you play other games? He replied: "No only league. No video editing"
does he need a vega56 for league?
the vega's they are quite power hungry 😮
@brisk badger I gave him better psu instead vega56 dude only wanted a really nice cpu/gpu with crappy mobo etc
@proper wren legit every pre-built
it surely is no bad setup, but how much does a vega cost? probably close to a 5600 xt?
The prebuilts in the company is very veryyyyy different
the psus we use is... thermal take... 80 plus
sometimes deepcool bronze if is a higher end build which kills me
Everytime a cx wants to purchase a prebuild I tell them to get the replacement plan because this fucker is not gonna last more than a year or two
"oh you bought this PSU.... are you also interested in insurance your household? just in case the PSU causes a fire"
Dude, I wish I worked in the tech department I'm doing checkouts at retail LMFAOOO
The worst pc I've seen prebuilt was from a dude that came in from staples
sometimes you wish you don't :P
Personally I stopped tech support after a while. I did not like it
The heatsink wasn't mounted properly, the heatsink fan was hanging, the exhaust fan wasn't screwed in...
big brain builds
Oh and the powersupply was dead and staples refused to replace it
I told him to file a claim with staples and come back to me
Staples charged $80 to build it for him
we charge around $50 and if we fuck up like accidental hardware damage after the drop off we replace it
have you had someone come in who intentionally damaged their PC xd
at least thermaltake isn't enermax right now
plenty of times lol
Always inspect
Also prebuilts are usually final sale because the windows key
but always 30 day defective exchange
We had a lot of customers that damage the cpu pins and try to return it
even got a cx trying to return 9900ks box with old Xeon cpu
The rule of thumb I always say for newcomers: Watch. A. Video.
Also I plan to use my replacement plan on my laptop to get a new laptop during fall lol...
Seeing Ludvig's benchmark on Userbenchmark, I also constantly see that this website is the shittiest website to use
I keep hearing a lot about how this whole website is misinformation
yeah it is
In the info for comparing parts and also in using their benchmarking
Like the 2080 Ti is doing 181%, normal
But 96%
You could reach that with a lower end CPU
If it's only on about itself, like only the 2080 Ti and that specific GPU usually performs lower than what Ludbug did, that would probably be understandable but also pretty damn stupid because then the 2080 Ti would be twice the performance of what it should be
So this benchmark is pretty fucking stupid basically because from seeing it now, I don't fucking understand what it is meaning anymore
Unless he knows some magic with it, idfk
It's very dependent on temp, momentary performance, as well as some synergy.
Hence variations.
Also that people have tested with the parts used of course.
True
Having bad memory results is often chokes, be it form factor, but most often temperatures.
And GPU and CPU results obviously dependent on temps and OC. It can be consistent, UserBenchMark. It's no absolute result but can give a rough estimate.
never heard of enermax anyway
Very nice!
Bet
Yeh
I seen it
Ah
Ffs
Hm?
That gif...
I like how I'm getting 100C with my Shintel 7700K, sounds like expected results
Proven to improve temperatures by 10C 
@molten acorn I am just working on my current build. I am gonna be swapping out my old fans and Stock Cooler.
I should have also got a can of Air
kek
@abstract kite you can have my can of air
Just dust with a soft rag, that’s fine
ouch, my 3950x is sitting around 80c doing chrome+discord,
I really need the new thermal paste
Kek
Rip... I did tell ya last night! XD
Have any spare of the silver? Or need to buy some
Are using an AIO?
do we need to get out or get the fuck out
or whatever it was called
just trying to clerify
?t gtfo
The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.
Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, and nice! You have alcohol to clean the CPU and cooler with?
Yep @rapid plume. I have 99% Isopropyl Alcohol.
Beautiful, make sure both are sparkly clean af
So I damp the Paper Towel and wipe off the current paste. More than likely the first wipe will not finish the job so do it 2-3 times?
if you put the proper amount of paste the last time, then it should be good to do in one cleaning
Keep going till it’s clean, then do one final wipe once it’s clean
Could thicc toilet paper do it too incase I do not have paper towels?
Just be carful but yes
As long as I don't use cloth, right?
Shoudl it?
It should, you're damping a part on the paper towel/cloth/ whatever else you may use
Cloth is fine as long as it’s soft
@abstract kite don't damp the paper towel or cloth to the point you can actually drain it tho, lmfao
Yeah, just damp. Not sopping wet.
Yep... if you wanted it that wet you’d just pour it on lol
@abstract kite did you do it?
No. I am waiting for my Fans to get here too.
@abstract kite As long as the TP doesn't rip easily you could use that.
Can anyone recommend a good 27" 1080P monitor with HDR?
@dense wasp Hopefully you don't have to go with large tophat + AIO lol
haha
we'll see
hopefully not ;)=
then I'd rather go 3600x in there, and switch the 3950x to a fullsize
oh nice
So I am looking at the package of the Thermal Grizzly it says to not be used with an Aluminum Heat Sink.
Isn't the DRP4 Aluminum?
the part that makes contact is nickel plated copper
Oh Okay
the TDP of this CPU is quite high for such a small form factor. I would recommend if disabling cores is not a thing; undervolting the core voltages and maybe underclocking a bit. Undervolting GPU's is usually easier. I do it practically with every build. I lose 5-8% FPS for like 20-30% less power consumption and also less heat which I think is acceptable
I had a different view though when living at parents house 😋 (no electricity bill to pay)
Galeeeerusss
Yus, @molten acorn ?
I missed you
I am paying my electricity bill
Is it hell?
Well currently I am on a pip so $160, but when that goes away I am looking to spend about $300~ish a month
Maybe more.
Yea
wut the hell, bud
My mother likes to blame it on me and my dads PC's being on all the time.
But in reality wouldn't take that much electricity?
you succ succ
Sounds right
G602?
G602 is a wireless gaming mouse
like my aim on the g502 is so much better and so is my response time
but it's so
plasticy and light
Ah
I remember when I first installed my GPU into this PC I was immediately pushing 120+ FPS when all my life I have been running 15-25 FPS.
I couldn't get use to it.
xD
I can't tell if you are hitting on me xD
@ornate ginkgo appropriate* <3
Does anyone have that wireless charging mouse from Logitech?
The G powerplay or something?
I don’t sadly, is there an issue or are you looking to buy it?
I was just looking to see if anyone else had it and would recommend it.
Ah ok, I’ve only used on one I’ve worked on fixing, so I’m not a good contender lol
From reviews and videos I’ve seen tho it seems good for a wireless mouse
@eternal cairn Are you referring to the G Pro Wireless?
I don't personally have it, but I have used it and it is really really good
A good friend of mine uses it as his daily driver
He recommends it highly
Yeah, the one that can charge while using it on the mouse pad.
goh f0r et
At that point i would start wondering is that cable so bad 
Wired will perform better
^
I would break a mat that had any electrical parts in it.
Not on purpose, or by violence, things just break when I use them
i can say that my Logitech G703 whit Powerplay Mousepad got NOT MORE INPUTLAG as wired
The Lightspeed Technoligy is very good
Same whit a good WiFi Chip, like the AC Killer , it got whit 5GHz Channel not rly Lantency Problems, and if you dont got an MRT at home in your Room it runs well like a LAN Cable
@magic anvil A good HDR Monitor , is sadly not FUllHD , it need a good Resolution (Means WQHD or better)
but when money is no point of limit, just look around the Asus ROG Swift Series and the MSI Optix Series
MSI Optix MAG272R-012
FullHD, HDR Rdy, 165Hz , Freesync (But i think its G-Sync Compatible too)
from what ive been looking around you can get HDR on FHD screens
the HDR Scale is most lower on FullHD Panels
it gives more as 1 hardwarebased HDR Support, means like something "HDR 400, HDR 600" etc. The MSI optix is FullHD and supports HDR
(Recommend to NOT use HDR in Windows, just in Games, cuz WinHDR is like Boots for Kids xD)
oh i dont intend to use hdr for normal desktop use just for gaming
Well, should enought for FullHD 144Hz+ and HDR
it should do in paper
But you can look around a WQHD Monitor, got enought power
Ye, some games are CrapCoded
not really a fan of jumping to 1440p just to lose performance

















