#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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Not a snower
using a k sku on a B chipset is like using a non k on a z chipset
wdym
Those who snow
I loved my 5950x
That thing rips
Then I killed my motherboard… and just upgraded it all cos it was tax return season
im gonna be using mine for 3-4 game vms (6 threads per vm) paired with 2 tesla p100s split across them (each P100 is little bit faster than a 1080 ti)
also will be running game servers (satisfactory, and about 4 minecraft servers)
ayyyy you are using a decent website
why do u run 4 minecraft servers
as long as you arent using userbenchmark
1 for family
2 for a discord server im in (1 modded, 1 vanilla)
1 for friends
userbenchmark are GIGA nvidia + intel shills
That’s perfect
they used to be good, but now are literally useless
bro my friends always got bored out after 3 week mc
I had a 1080ti on mine and it ran perfectly
modded server died even before we beat the modapck
I’m planning to set up a micro home server and I was thinking of getting another 5950x
i may or may not also be running a nas off of it (thought, i do have an i5 6700 laying around with a mobo and ram
Depending on what you are running on the server the 6700 is good enough
probably just gonna be 4 hard drives
tons of movies, photos, game recordings, and isos
and shows
I have an Immich server running on a 2 core atom and it runs pretty smooth but the image processing is slowwwww
I also run minecraft server on i5 14400f but tps staying around ~18 for whole time ( 400 mods )
also have a tesla p4 for transcoding, so i could put it into a nice and slim case to save space
which is pretty weird to say
Do you do any processing on the server itself?
minecraft bottle neck even on mid tier cpus
If not the best thing for it would be a 10g network card to connect to your pc
Its very easy to become a snower
snower use slug shotgun
main pc, "server" (5950x pc) and switch are 2.5g
dont really plan on upgrading my main pc to 10g since i need to slot a second gpu in there in the future (running out of display connections)
that was fast
cya bot
Yeah that’s absolutely perfect
2.5g is plenty for me tbh
since i still use hard drives for bulk storage (fuck buying an ssd with these prices), 2.5g is plenty of speed
Bruh I’m in the process of putting my pc inside of a printer case so nobody’s pc can be roasted more than mine
So true😭 I had a hard drive die on my and instead of buying an ssd I dusted off two old 500gbs😂
my friend has his gpu facing him lol
so like 2 metres of free air (he also has an overclocked 3080 drawing around 600 watts
i was trying to find some storage for a pc i built for vr stuff
my server is out of commision atm (lending psu to sister) so i just raided the boot drive out of it
and then i found one of my old laptops im not using, and took the 1tb 2.5" hdd out of it lol
nope
normal cooler
strix 3080
so insanely overbuilt
Bro I did the same thingggggg
Laptop storage is mineeee
Damn 600 watts won't last long
i wanted to take the storage out of my current laptop (piece of shit dual core), but its 64gb of soldered emmc lol
ig only for instant turbo
it does
open bench + max fan speeds
actually, i think like 60%
my 9070 xt draws 600w+ with fans only at 50%, and stays under 70C on core (under 90C on hotspot)
okay but having a thing draws 600 watts like that prolly can die out in short term
Yeah not like 24/7
we kinda want to get all achievements too lol
So close👍👍
when i turbo my last rx570
absolutely not
my gpu draws 334w just gaming
650 ish when overclocking (though its hitting like 3.6ghz)
my screen shutdown and tear up immieditely
turbo rx570 to 2.6 ghz and draws 220W
🐟
okay, that is bullshit
do you mean 1.6?
even then, a very high clock for a 570 is around 1450
No it is the after burner msi thing
Allow me to try 3.2ghz smthing
When i press save loadout smthing
ohhhh you meant just trying it
My screen shutdown
i thought you meant you got that stable
Nah there is no way
I do those with cheap gpu for fun
Even tho those still costy for me
that reminds me, im gonna give an old gtx 650 to a friend
they are on a gt 710 atm
with an athlon 200ge
the worst gpu i used daily was a gtx 690 XD
Still own it
Gtx is prolly higher tier than gt ig?
yup
Damn okay that doesn't look like a 690
read the left
Also got my gtx 770 4GB (was normally 2GB)
Was and normally?
but there were 4gb versions released
1am
hmhm
Oh right you live in the middle of nowhere mb
3am is wilts time
So the middle of nowhere
First time after long time pc build chat was talk active
East Australia is like the more well known part and more populated
West... ggs 0.1 person per 100 km
My wet dream
Did the smoll one discover electricity?
m60 is 2 gtx 980's with 8gb of vram each, on a single board
bro, all the green ones are tesla
soon...
Ok MY bad one of them screams tesla and the rest whisper it
Double T4 or double p100
T4 giga expensive
like triple the price of a p100
all the tesla cards were originally for machine learning, rendering, transocding, game servers (ever heard of stadia?), and scienctific calculatiuons (P100 and volta specifically)
All i know are machine learning on those
They have very good drivers
Not niche like rtx
they are old pascal cards, so not great for ML since they lack dedicated hardware
if you really want ML, try and find some cheap tesla V100 16GB cards
Till now p100 still used alot in ML though
volta is the generation that introduced tensor cores
I'm using one on cloud
oh btw, the tesla P4 (that tiny one)
is literally a gtx 1080, but with a 75w power limit
But it can't display on monitors right
when my 7900 xt died, i was using that for gaming
you can route through other gpus
p4 plays the games
igpu or second gpu does monitor
ive got a 7800x3d
so the igpu isnt great
but it can run a display jsut fine
2cus of rdna2
Buh all x3d are insane better than intel hd
I can play gtfo on such igpu like that
not the igpu
Which still likely better than my t2000
the igpu on amd is worse than intel
except for the G series chips
which have a beefier igpu
x3d yes, but that doesnt help the igpu
G for graphic go brrr
But many said raw amd igpu are enough to play games already
I think the only actual high performance with intel is K
But it is ultra for battery life
and maybe KF?
F is no igpu
Kentucky Fried (chicken) power
k and kf are the same
HK
^
Or K
people mod the mobile cpus onto desktop boards
But it can't taken off socket fr
mhm
soldered on via bga
man, one day i want to take a photo of all of my gpus on my desk
got like 5 more that arent in this photo
Just have a wall rack of em lel
Take off gou when it is running
thats the plan some day
let me go find the list of gpus i want
My i7 4th processor got taken off mid running on mobo
PC Parts i want to collect:
GPUs:
Nvidia:
GTX 275 Co Op
GTX 460 Hawk Twin Frozr II
GTX 460 WHDI
GTX 460 2Win
GTX 580 MARS II
GTX 590
GTX 690 ✅
GTX 780 Ti FE
GTX 980 Ti FE
GTX 980 Ti FTW
GTX Titan
GTX Titan Black
GTX Titan Z
GTX Titan X
GTX Titan X Pascal
GTX Titan Xp
GTX Titan V
RTX Titan
Tesla P4 ✅
Tesla P100
Tesla V100
Tesla V100 FHHL (Single Slot V100)
Tesla A100
CMP 170HX
GTX 1060 3GB
GTX 1060 5GB
GTX 1060 6GB
GTX 1060 8GB
GTX 1080 Ti FE
GTX 1080 Ti Assassins Creed Origins Edition
GTX 1080 Ti FTW3
GTX 1080 Ti Kingpin
RTX 2080 Ti FE
RTX 2080 Ti Lightning
RTX 3060 12GB FE
RTX 3070 Noctua
RTX 3080 FE
RTX 3080 Strix
RTX 3080 FTW3
RTX 3080 Ti 20GB
RTX 4080 Noctua Edition
RTX 4090 Matrix
RTX 5090 Matrix
AMD:
HD 5970 Asus Ares
HD 6990
HD 7990 Triple Dissipation
R9 Fury X
R9 295X2
RX Vega 64
ProVega II Duo
Radeon VII
RX 5700 XT FE
RX 5700 XT Anniversary Edition
Radeon Pro W6800X Duo
RX 6900 XT FE
RX 6950 XT FE
RX 7900 XTX FE
Intel:
H3C XG310
Arc B580 LE
Arc B60 Dual
wild
I have 980 FE
so we are nvidia dick riders alriiiiiiiite
Watch as it keeps growing each release
most of those are blower type cards, and i prefer how they look
my affinity is to no brand
Clearly he's an ATI shill
nvidia just has a larger variety since they have more market share
whats my budget in this scenario
Unlimited, it's pretty much the 5090
Uh 300 usd
oooooh
i could probably find a 6900 XT used for $300 usd
but realistically intel yeah
probs b580
when will someone think of the single slot, half height, no power connector gamers (i want to replace my P4)
the only card that falls under that category that is faster than the P4, is the 3050 6GB, and that is in like 2 games
2 games? sounds worth it
BRO WTF
im just trying to buy a cpu cooler and power supply
I think realistically you'd be spending extra if you want much better but single slot for a watercool
the two items together are $171
that or maybe those generally are 2 slots
(aud btw)
3050 is worse than 6700xt
3060 is worse than 6700xt even
And price kinda same
yea for low end it's pretty much gone to AMD
not including intel cause that's the only thing that was worth anything for them at the time anyway
esp now too ig lol
least until the next gen ig? iirc the 7000 series wasn't all that great on the low end
been a while too to remember really
yea
but wasn't the 7600 just a 6600 release or something
well in terms of performance
just like the 4060 was kinda
no the 7600 is a tab faster than a 6600 xt
4060 tho was just an awful release
mostly faster than 3060, but sometimes slower because vram bandwidth lol
I might be wrong but iirc nvidia also made an excuse for more cache making up for the lack of vram too or I could be mistaking it for another company idrk
truly was a silly excuse, especially when it kinda became clear you couldn't really use 8gb for new games anymore
least for new ones, even re9 is struggling with loading areas for me on my 3070 ti
last year i could get a 1TB nvme for that price
yeah $50 usd is about this much
F
better than I expected honestly
its just reverted to when it was a new release storage type
or those were like 200-300 legitimately
just more past the first couple years anyway
i should probably take all these gpus off of my desk huh
The close proximity to your PC will give a 10% boost for each card
compounding or linear
compounding
Incredible
Incredible
my switches:
the top is 2.5g
but unstable recently
so ive got 1g as main switch, with 2.5g switch to be connection between main pc and server
silly
thats what i get for pairing a $300 netgear gigabit switch with an $50 aliexpress 2.5g one lmao
wild
ah ic
only reasonable way to get cooling into a tesla card outside of a server chassis (besides watercooling, which is on my future to do list)
Sold the old x570 with 3900x and build a 13700k build from old parts.This is not my main pc.Case used be quite dx 501.
I got a good deal on a Asus - Z90 a gaming wifi 2 and switched from the ddr4 z690 which i used for the 13700k build.Also bought a kit of 32GB ddr5 for a good price.Temps are the same 28-30 idle and 50-55C in gaming.
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Why does it sounded like this
The fan don't even spin until gpu is on a heavy loads

Need to tweak your fan curves
No i mean 1 fan spin
The other stays still
Let my vid load rq
And it sounds super weird
Its either rubbing on something or bad bearings
See if like some wire is touching the blades when it's turned on
In that case you could zip tie another fan to the gpu
Or just like place it facing the gpu heatsink
No like straight up remove old fan and zip tie another one there
Will try
But i think that missing some oils
Or a inner broken
Since the fan somewhat no damages
At all
Or just replace them.Cost probably nothing on ebay.
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I don't think they're awake
More like the free money folk aren't waking up after the mods are done with them
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I got a deal of Oled 4k monitor 60hz 17 inch and it got super tiny burnt in on top for 90 usd
Is it worth
4k 17 inch 😂 60 hz burned in? Why would you buy that
WHO needs 4k
Me me me
who wouldn't play 4k OLED peggle deluxe
real
plus you can just set it to 1920x1080p and it'll fit great
truly a nice bonus for 4k
Anyone down to peg?
On a 17 inch?
It's big enough
thats what she said
Exactly
Too much used to laptops i think xd
hey as long its not a gaming laptop
its not bad
never gamed on a laptop since like the early 2010s or late 2000s playing farm sim on my dad's laptop so eh
laptops are good
(as long as you got every single accesory for it)
Laptop is good for work/Office but the temps get too hot with gaming.
never too hot
Im sure as long as it doesn't melt with the power of the sun in it, you have no issue
xd
You can use most laptops to cook your eggs on in the morning if you put on a good game.
even though gaming laptops exist but they are way more expensive bc of the fact you can take them anywhere but also bc of some components like gpu have to be smaller than the ones for pc
Even the expensive asus or alienware will wear out premature because of the temps.
true
which is why you have to accesorise if youre using laptop for gaming
like atp youre better off having a gaming pc and a laptop that suited for like office work
Like super little burnt in
And they offer 75usd now
I already went and tested it
It's minor until u use monitor testing softwares
Not about 4k though, my gou can't handles
But oled yummy
60hz oled already have much more respond time than ips
Or feels like it
Oled ok but 60 hz? Would not consider replacing my 240 hz alienware 2721D for a 60hz oled.
But if you happy it,go for it.
Yeah not really that competitive for above 120hz
My eyes honestly can't differ at 100hz+ after i stare at most of monitors in the store
Mostly watching stuffs with my sister for fun
Oh yeah it's 27 not 17
that changes a lot lol
if the burn in isn't painfully obvious, it's a steal
even if it's not games, watching stuff would likely be more enjoyable on a 4K OLED
I'd pull my cash out the wallet but for some reason it looks abit like scam to me
Just here to ask honestly
Plug a laptop, phone, or something into it if you are looking in person before you buy
Burn in doesnt show up that well in photos
given the price, there has to be some, just depends on how much you can tolerate
my smartphone is burned in af because of max brightness "always on display"
there's just an orange block constantly visible whenever bright content is on
it stopped bothering me, but i kinda trained myself to not care, it's really obvious that it's always there
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Good airflow tho
Yeah i changed that gpu intakes
Meanwhile my pc:
It was old pic
Still look alot better than mine
Hm i need to take an updated pic
Also need to get a new motherboard, and new ram (wont be getting more ram until prices come down my 60% or more)
By any chance i don't think ram price gonna come down
It will, just dont know when
This prolly be our normal ram price until 2027
There are already signs of the ai bubble starting to deflate
How could you tell
One of the main big ones was sora being shut down
Uh, just one paid AI application
People just disliked and having turning their back on Open AI after support for the Israel war
So Chatgpt got less fund and sora being shutdown
And then there is just the straight fact that companies are just "investing" into eachother with no profit to be seen anywhere, and resources just being wasted
Companies only have so much money
Ai here ai there.Just don't watch the news and have a happy life
Idc man, all i watch was the ram price
I want to have a happy life with 256gb ram, but fucking ai isnt letting me
Not that much better tbh
I'm sitting on 24GB ram
bought a kit of ddr5 7200 for 32gb for 300 euro
Really need to like 64gb for my docker and server stuffs
Yeah...
I bought a 32gb kit of ddr5 6000 this time last year for about 1/4 of that price
I am not paying quadruple the price
buy ddr4 64 gbs
I run tons of vms on both my main pc, and my server lol
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Normal price for my back then was 150 euro (i got it for 300) 150 more + .Online new 650 euro
I had an xeon server with 64gb running on x99 d3 but the specs real bottle necked at the cpu
It is super slow
Cheers mods
Ive got a 5950x in my server
But the motherboard vrms are dying trying to pump more than 100w
Since its an early am4 board designed for 100w 8 core chips, instead of 200w 16 core chips
So my cpu is stuck at 3.4ghz lmao
I would prefer a stable cpu for the main more than just put what ever overpowered into it
Overheating vrm are really big issues for servers
Ehh i am just not putting too much load on it for now
Literally been doing nothing for the past month
Once i get a new mobo for it, then imma start chopping away at some tasks
My e5-2676 v3 running overclocked 12 cores at 3.1ghz draws 150W on load
My vrm barely alive
It is just enough to sustain through days
I feel kinda jealous with people sometimes, my friend with a Z790 64GB ddr5 and i9 14900kf and all he play was Roblox
And watching yt shorts
Overkill builds and after that doing nothing
Those people have enough money to burn if they only play games and buy 100+ ram.Know 1 dude that bought 96 gb of ram to play that dumb game star citizen
Wtf is star citizen lmao
5070 for roblox too
Meanwhile i'm using cmp hx70 to play games
I just upgraded from 9900k to 14700KF.But i actualy play more then just roblox xd
Crazy cooling
My i7 9700k be around 50 even idle
Guess my country just not good for environment cooling
Hot outside?
Just hide with a airco
Ooo yeah X99 bottlenecks badly on the CPU because those Xeons have abysmal single core perf
Its more that server grade cpus tend to have lower base clock
That too but those Xeons still have rubbish single core
the 3GB 1060
NOT THE 3 GIG 1060
what about the 5gb 1060
2 build ready.13700Kf with 3080.
keep an eye on that 3080
gigabyte 3080s had a problem where the pcb near the pcie connector can crack
Not this one.This one has shitty thermal pads.Already ordered new ptm for the core and new Arctic pads.
Like i expected.Never opened. Temps while in gtfo
Cleaned it up and used Arctic mx7 untill ptm and pads will arrive.Temps improved and hotspot is 10/11 difference
Its all gigabyte 3080s to keep an eye on
Mainly the gaming line but the other ones were affected too
If you ever notice power draw under 200w at full load, inspect it
I did inspect it and it had no cracks or signs of it.Also always use a gpu holder to remove the weight from the pci-slot and i use monitoring software all the time so no worry.Managed to improve the temps but i needed to undervolt it since it used ridiculous amount of voltage at stock.The fan curve on those cards are bullshit too.They don't spin until they reach 50c so i just adjusted it to 65% static (not noisy at that speed).Temps in idle are around 29-31` just like my 2080 TI.The 2080 ti always had like at least 2/1 fan spinning and the 3 kicked in after temps started to go above 45C/50.1 pic is idle 2 is under load.
Poggers
Just check the 3080 every 2-3 months (checking power draw should be fine enough)
no thanks, bro
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@odd portal we have a scammer (sorry would have put it in general but can't post pictures.)
Dm @odd portal instead
Are you 89 years old?
Had my role for a couple of days
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That one is like the Nigerian prince scam of this decade
a little worse I guess, because it also converts you into a bot parroting it forward and making everyone you're connected with on discord know you fell for it
wouldnt surprise me if someone made a virus that spammed out nigerian prince scams
try not to think about how easy it is to spin up a scam farms with local AI models...
🚬
Always a good time seeing unread indicator here but no new posts. Or rather knowing the dead body is cleaned up by now
Truly
Thragg be looking different
Is anybody a bit nerdy enough to help me get my PC up and running I bought? Worried I got jipped
i can try and give ya a hand
whats happenin
My buddy will be here in 20 so I’m gonna give it a go with him and if all else fails I’ll lyk, I’m not really into the whole computer stuff but I def wanted one for gaming / gym edits lol
yeah no worries
ill be around for another 3 or 4 hours so just hit me up
<@&408548765599793173> double whammy
How did it go
I think the PSU is shot, using the parts and gonna go out and buy a new one. Redo everything in the PC and see if I can start it
game streaming server fully up and running
single gpu, two game vms
host pc:
ryzen 9 5950x (on a motherboard that throttles it to 3.4ghz lol)
32gb ddr4 3600 (plan to get more)
tesla p100
tesla p4
the two vms each have 8 threads, 7.5gb ram, and the p100 with 8GB vram each
in the future i plan to get 128gb ram, and another p100
then i will split it into 4 vms
the 4 player gtfo lan game is in the future
incredible
Could someone help me with my ethernet issues?
Whats happening with your ethernet?
Classic internet blunder. asking to ask instead of just asking
epic
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Noooo my fre mone
I'm building a Pc
I want to play Gtfo vanilla AND modded at 500fps (exaggeration)
Feed me specs
Budget?
Thinking €1500
Sara' dura coi prezzi delle RAM di oggi
Maybe if you keep to DDR4 it's more doable tbh
with 300 roughly you can grab a b550 and 16gb ddr4
Ooh yeah
Whats your current build @calm wigeon
considering you might want some beefy gpu by what you said, eh
prepare to pay half of that budget for the gpu only I'm afraid
I think 16gb ddr4 is too low tbh
Especially for gtfo XD
Win11 on those spec does run
and so does GTFO
yeah but they seem like they are looking for better than just running
@night rapids what were ur specs and how much did it cost?
You can always buy another kit
I have 4 sticks 😎
Wait actually, 4x8 is probably fine
i got my pc back in 2022 and it was second hand
Its 4x16 and up thats the problem
That shit was so hard to get to 6000
Me trying to get 7400 rn
Hz?
Makes sense
I mean even GPU wise I'm seeing 5070tis for around 800-900 euroes and judging by the post that's roughly the target in terms of performance
And that's nearly 2/3 of 1500
In terms of running GTFO, to be honest, I think the game is so shittingly optimized it can also make barely a difference
True
Moreover, resolution matters a big deal
Yeah
Ive got a 7800x3d + 9070 xt and the gpu sits at 50% usage most of the time when shit is happening
When nothing is happening, easy 200fps at max settings
Goes to 70 at the end of e2
I like how this game eats sometimes double the frames for no reasons 😄
Totaly not bc of unity
i think this game would run better on ue5
Ultimately 9070xt is around the same price anyway, right?
typically 500 range
you sure? euroes?
moderately sure
I'm not seeing anything lower than 700 on amazon
Check other retailers
Eeeeh si, purtroppo si
Truth to be told 5070ti is around 900 so it's still 200 more
Not available, it's in another country so I'm building from 0
Only time i recommend a 5070 ti is if it is at most, 15% more expensive
I can save up more
That's not a problem
I just want something beefy to run Gtfo at 144fps and Iracing
I'm not very knowledgeable on specs
Last time my best friend built my pc for me and he picked the parts
But that was 2019
If 9060xt is within my range I could buy it
It worked well but obviously it aged, then I moved to EU and now I want to build one myself
I just have no idea about anything related to PC building so I'm a little afraid of falling for a scam or buying bad parts
Can always dump whatever you were looking at here for opinions
9060xt is around 300 euros im pretty sure
Nothing is able to run gtfo at 144fps 100% of the time fyi
What the fk
Wait is Gtfo that demanding?
No its just insanely terribly designed
Unity
High fps when nothing happens, goes to shot in action
Same with subnautica
I just care about 3 things:
• Can handle anything my engineering career requires
• Can handle high steady Fps on Iracing, ACVR and Forza Horizon 6
• Can handle Gtfo/Bf6 at high fps
I'll probably be buying a 165hz monitor so I want to use it to its fullest
Well ive tried fh6 already, and i was only able to get a max of 75fps at native res (no upscaling)
Max settings tho
Might sound a little shill'y but imo DLSS is a noticeable amount better than FSR. Especially in cases where you hit 80ish+ but want more fps. DLSS+2xFG on 50 series seemed surprisingly dialed in. Of course you get a latency bump and some artifacting here and there if you were to pixel peep. But overall the experience was improved for me in several cases.
It's close to the line of bad enough to notice
Comparing fsr 4.1 to dlss 4 its pretty much on par quality wise
Fg is slightly in nvidias favour
And mfg is overhyped
Ive tried all of the technologies from both in person
If you don't hit 60 and go for FG it can quickly get ugly
Tell that to the new lego batman devs
30fps minimum requirements, and that is with fg enabled
So like 18fps
Sounds like marketing was in charge of dev priorities
Ceos and sales team not too far apart in motivations i guess
GTFO is just not very optimised
I play on basically lowest settings and the lowest fps i get is like MAYBE under 60 but usually always above 60 on 1080p
with rtx 2060
Used to have that one! It was great
its lowk tuff
had it for around 4 years
but after playing on the pcs they have at 10 Chambers, i wish i had a better one 😔
the setup we had for DoW recording was CRAZY
best setup i've ever played on
should've stolen one
In EU it'll likely be higher ngl, in sweden it fluctuates but around 900 euros
what in the fuck
i thought australia prices were bad
i bought my 9070 xt for $1200 aud/740 euro
Thats what high taxes and not being prioritised does
Eu has high energy costs so datacenters arent usually built here
And we have better climate laws than the americas
not hard to do
Is there a beta test?
uhhhh no
Bar is low af
they accidentally leaked it themslevs through steam XD
Its really meh
And runs so much worse than fh5
Like less than half the fps while looking nearly the same
Youd be surprised at how i play car games
Tbh, i havent had fun in a car game since need for speed most wanted 2012
Car games dont FEEL fast anymore
Old car games fell nyooom
I dont mind not feeling the speed, I like setting quick laps around a track I've never seen before
So i guess you go for literal speed while i go for the sense of speed
I go for racing good essentially
Though I will say they need to adjust their profiles for the CPU's, either they literally pull away from you no matter what (highest difficulty) or they cant take a corner (one step below)
Im either 5 seconds behind first or 30 second ahead of 2nd depending on the profile
And those 5 seconds is because every finish is after a straight
wait TRUE
wait a sec 🤨
i should be at 32 gb ram 😭
tf does it mean 17GB ram
😭🙏I think im running out of lanes ngl
what you doing with the xtx then?
Gonna have it at a setup at my dads
send it to me for my gaming vms
Was gonna see if it worked in my current pc but guess not 🤷♂️
Rather send it to tgb so he can run 100 super ultra giga loggers
Surely if i run everything but the 5080 on gen 1 speeds it'll be fine
whats your mobo?
ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI
No thats how it works trust
Trolling
Anyways
Surely its worth to run half the ram for one more gpu
I should unplug my gpu to check ngl
Oh wait I see why
Must've accidentally opened the lock on the ram stick when I took mobo out of old case
Well now I can run dual gpus without a worry
there we go
1 GB of that is swap memory which is basically taking a tiny amount of storage in case you ever need more ram
i know what swap is
just didnt realise it was including that in the whole ram

when will they address us as "bro" again
<@&408548765599793173> kill 'em with hammers
So I have small problem, whenever i load my game, it crashes 2 seconds after (the screen recording doesn't show it but it also loads a small white window with the GTFO logo on it, Window named "GTFO-Unity 2019- (bunch of other numbers and letters)) My PC meets requirements to play the game, I've updated my drivers and I validated the GTFO file and nothing is working for me. Can someone help me figure out atleast why its happening?
looks like it crashed when the discord overlay tried to inject
give it a shot with discord completely closed
nothing different, i noticed it and i tried it with everything not essential closed
any mods?
thunderstore is closed too, i was just loading vanilla
check launch options just in case
also, is the game installed on an ssd or hard drive?
what does the task manager performance section look like?
just want to see if what other drives and if they are ssds
task manager looks normal and just got my hard drive
on the left, there is other tabs
performance tab is what im looking for
it shows the drive type
this game REALLY doesnt like spinning disks
hmm okay
can you launch the game again with that open, and then send another screenshot once it crashes?
and watching it when i run the the game, nothing goes above the 15% mark
hold on imma try
if this helps
have you tried completely deleting gtfo and then reinstalling it?
yep, 2nd thing i tried before calling your help
try these
reinstall games steps section
this will remove the config files (it will remake them when you open the game fully next)
so hypothecally, what if the 10 chambers collective folder doesn't show up when looking to delete it?
is that at all important?
Its important if you've had the game open on this os/pc
As in
Its fine if its not there
But its suspicious if its not there
Clear steams cache then try opening again
Id update any drivers you havent updated too
Yeppers
quick question, by clearing steams cache, you mean COMPLETELY exiting it out through task manager? or is that its own special thing?
Welp reinstall time
another reinstall?
And there is no 10 chambers folder at all?
you might not believe this, even with game installed, still no 10 chambers
no, but imma refresh my driver anyway
Yea
Id say if that doesnt work reinstall and if still no Bueno we might wanna try and find some sort of gtfo log anywhere
YES
@outer siren @dusky plaza
I don't even understand what happened where it was doing that, but thank you both
fire
nevermind it crashed, and did the unity error again...
😭
%userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow doesnt have a 10 chambers folder?
should be at the top if you sort it by name
no folder still
hm, @quartz cliff any clue?
well it being open for 30 seconds is a start
Well the 10 chambers folder should be somewhere else then, it usually doesn’t fail to get itself up
Not really sure where else it could be though
Yea
Anyways glad to see they got it working
Actually nvm
I misremembered
They might be using the archive?
Try manually creating the 10 Chambers folder
Name it "10 Chambers Collective"
@edgy ferry
and see if it loads anything into
also send crash log file
lmfao
I should get a wireview too, the cable could go rogue just like that and I'd be none the wiser until it's too late
Your GPU crying out almost looks a little festive
yeah i was a little too aggressive on the vram overclock
literally backed off 10mhz and it was fine
they got another one <@&408548765599793173>
No it cant
what a shame
This is a neat channel.
👍
help
my PC is only capable of toasting bread
two pieces of bread at the same time might I add
two pieces of bread at the same time? sounds like your iron is good at multitasking
download RAM
I mean lets not degrade the purpose of this channel guys
its meant to be a helpful channel, not a meme
I cant see why we wouldnt be able to discuss PC stuff in general
This channel is more for when we are going through PC build and troubleshooting stuff
neat.
and or potentially nerdgasms of huge walls of tech talk
Just in case the people in General would like to talk without being interrupted about this neat new CPU
Sort of try to use your judgement on when to talk tech here instead of general
so how about that new amd tech 
Only the main thing Ive been speaking about in general XD
oh yeah new CPU HMMM 7NM
deepest tech lore
Got my 7940X, delidded, to run, and now overclocks at 4.8GHz, but still runs at around 33-35 degrees idle
Freaken neat!
Fans run a 50% as well, roughly, if not less. Thinking about if you could create a low frequency PWM that could be used for 3-2pin fans.
That's pretty cool
If I had a better cooler I'd like to see how.far I could push my e5-1680
But as it stands the max I can operate at is 4.53Ghz
I used the automatic OC Robot of EVGA's board. I'm pretty sure I could push it up a notch if I wanted to, but I don't fully mind a simple 4.8GHz clock.
If you could get cheap Openloop parts that could fit with adjustments, and a huge radiator, you could go far with it.
I also have a fan I can only set to a static voltage, that I can't control. I'm getting a Voltage controller for that one, though.
You could get open loop parts that might be wrong, but big enough, and still would fit, and couple it with proper mounting screws if you could find some cheap, then mess around until you get a good result.
My CPU's base clock is only 3Ghz
I have the 48mm 240 rad for mine, and it really does wonders.
Im already pushing it more the 50% harder then its base
Well, you know. Base clock for 7940X is 3.1Ghz.
yeah but its also smaller architecture
But being able to pull of what you do with a 120mm is impressive.
so it doesnt heat up as much
My 120mm performs similar to a Corsair H100i
yours is 14nm
But I do still think a lot lies in the fact that the radiator I have is a good quality, non-generic, one.
which is why it runs a lot cooler and more efficient
The rad actually has a lot less to do with it then people think
the thermal transfer rate of the heat medium is the bottleneck in most liquid loops
I know my radiator stuff, and whilst it doesn't cool it, having a larger one gives more buffer in temperatures due to being able to transfer the heat.
In saying that a larger rad has higher potential to dissipate heat and will always perform better then smaller ones due to the buffer nature of the larger rad
but the overclockers rule of thumb is 120mm x 28mm per component for cooling as with a good rad thats all you need
I also firmly believe it is incorrect to run a 360mm rad into a CPU then a GPU and back to the rad
Id rather do a 240mm into the CPU then a 120mm rad and then the GPU which runs back to the larger rad
yeah
But I absolutely would not trust a non-240 on this CPU for the overclock specifically, even if it so would work.
Pushing my CPU past 4.5Ghz starts causing it to run hot as it cant blow off the heat due to the size of the rad and lack of reserve water at a reasonable temp causes me to heat up like a mofo
Undersizing, in all branches of watercooling, is not optimal.
Ye.
You reach a certain point, like a breaking point, where it accumilates heat instead of dissipates it.
And even if it is slowly, the constant addition of heat from the CPU in this case means it will just increase.
Heat in/heat out.
Can cause engine failure/issues on old radiators.
And of course, having a 360x360 radiator is cool and all, but it only means you'll even out the temperature further towards room-temperature. The return on it is lackluster seen from a cost perspective.
Also think of the other thing
if you have a single rad
And you cool your CPU and GPU
with no other rad
you CPU is running at say 60 degrees
and then 60 degree water hits your GPU
so your GPU is now being cooled with high temp water
(this is under fuck off hot loads though)
But, from another perspective, something I've been thinking about. a 360x360 costs a shit ton of money. But a car radiator, a cheap one, even smaller one's would do. It would cost only somewhere between 50-100 euro, and in computer terms, it's huge.
Well, water transfers heat quite efficiently. In a loop, the water will almost always have a constant temperature if you have good flow.
It does not mean you would not gain from putting a radiator in between, but water, especially under flow, will transfer the heat throughout the loop quite efficiently.
Yeah but if you heat medium is 60 degrees already
how cool is your desired part gonna get?
Well, yeah, if we are frying eggs with our comp.
maybe a faction cooler
A better solution is to just divide the heat of both components, as to they do not share it between them.
Hence why my dream PC has a rad after each cooled component
and then a rad before the res for a good buffer
I have a frankenstein dream PC Idea where I put a car radiator on the water loop system.
Or 2, for good measure.
Heck, I could get the car's fan as well, or several.
It would still not be "expensive"
Relatively speaking to getting specific computer parts for that endeavour.
The dream PC I had I have already built with this, which feels really weird.
Like catching the white whale kind of weird.
Yeah this is a fun channel.
Will post my new PC build here when I build it 😉
Heh. Mine, for clarification, is a Sleeper build. A monster PC built into a HP Compaq Proliant ML370 Generation 1 shell.
For reference, here's the ML370:
https://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server900/b18w/products/21811/images/51709/ML370T_G1_Front__62429.1423247382.1280.1280.jpg?c=2
Silly labcat
haha, nice
whoah that shell is really archaic
Still thinking if I could hold on to my system for 1 more year before getting a new PC
Ryzen 3000 is really tempting though I am waiting for Big Navi
Big Navi?
Hmmm, if not mistaken, AMD is supposed to release a high performance version of their latest GPU architecture (Navi) next year, coincidentally with the new Sony PS5
This year they are releasing the mainstream / budget versions of Navi, with the top version supposed to match the RTX 2070
oo new channel
yeah nice tech channel
last i remember the 'high performance navi' was a bit of a rumor but who knows
i can definitely see it
Navi isn't gonna be as good as the old leaks were hoping
They were gonna be 1080/2070 performance for 250USD
But now it's 2070 for 449 or 499 USD
The leaked performance of one of the 5700 line
Currently there are only two in existence
So either the cheaper one is a 2070 or the more expensive one is
Outside of that real high end Navi is on hold until 2020
most likely the more expensive one right?
I would assume so but I hope I'm wrong
Hopefully AMD and board partners can rationalize a price point of say USD 399
a lot of the amd leaks were grossly overexaggerated
Well a 2070 is about 599USD
whoah
It would still have to compete price for performance with an RTX 2060
Which is a better buy than its bigger sibling?
theres also the radeon vii
how much was that again compared to the 2080?
The performance leaks were an engineering sample vs a 2070 in a DX12 environment
i thought gpu mining died with asics
It looks like the Navi that was presented trades blows with the 2070 winning and losing by margins of up to 10%
Some miners are still into it - albeit not all regions have electricity prices that are conducive to profit
All in all quite decent for 100-150USD less
Radeon Vii like Vega 56 and Vega 64 aren't really for gaming
I always though the Strange Brigade DX12 comparison at E3 was run off final Navi silicon
They are actually repurposed workstation cards
Hopefully the can get more gains beyond the ES
They aren't designed for gaming
yeap
Yeah
they're server cards not workstation
No Vega style card is meant for gaming
workstation cards are the radeon firepros
I don't know what the Radeon Vii was based on as I haven't really been interested in it
it's all just branding and small features
But the Vega 64 and 56 were based off old workstation cards
Here I am with the first iteration of Polaris final silicon
Until two ish years ago I was still rocking a 660 ti
hell, i'd switch back to my rx 580 if i didn't need my 2080ti
dang - 660Ti is old
Maybe 3 years ago actually
I'm on an RX 580 ATM
Which is being a pile of garbage
But when it works it does fine
That's a nice card isn't it? (unless it was made by Giga)
@lucid osprey You got yourself a Gsync monitor?
oh
Giga? @fiery nacelle
and i'm annoyed because nvida doesn't do freesync over hdmi
I'm speaking with my PSU manufacturer ATM about some testing and or RMA as I have reason to believe it fried my Vega
@harsh terrace gigabyte
Really? All the PCB's I've seen from them are great
@lost iron Oh dear, I suppose you'll change your PSU in the interim?
Based on the fact that my original RX 580 was good and reliable until this PSU then it started playing up.
Then a few weeks into my Vega it burnt up, finally I put my RX 580 back in and it seems to be running although funky.
Then I swapped the cables over (modular) and nearly all my problems are gone
The 580 has crashed once since cable change over but I think that's due to damage already caused
@harsh terrace Could be a cooling solution issue - either VRM or memory/core
Maybe...
Some Gigabyte AM4 boards VRM are so-so though
Having said that, I use a Gigabyte motherboard LOL
I do know that with some cards (can't remember which ones) gigabyte were using shoddy quality VRM's and RAM



