#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 4

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 4:01 AM

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anything with ? is yet to be 🅱️ urchased

subtle flare Dec 7, 2022, 4:01 AM

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If they upped the price

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If prices shown currently stay true then a 4080 rocks better than the XTX

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Current AIB XTX models have been seen for $1600

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4080 is cheaper + has better RT

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 4:02 AM

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if the founder card is 900/1000 i'll buy em.

subtle flare Dec 7, 2022, 4:03 AM

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Good luck, I recommend staying up all night

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 4:03 AM

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the AIBs are setting themselves up for destruction

subtle flare Dec 7, 2022, 4:03 AM

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I stayed up all night before 4090 launch and was lucky to get mine the day before it released

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 4:03 AM

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if those are the prices

subtle flare Dec 7, 2022, 4:03 AM

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Technically the day of, 2:00 am PST or 5:00 am EST

subtle flare Dec 7, 2022, 4:04 AM

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bright shard if those are the prices

Yea it sucks ass

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FE editions are gonna be hard to obtain, so be on edge

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 4:04 AM

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yeah, ive got some alerts set up n stuff. if you know any good links let me know.

subtle flare Dec 7, 2022, 4:05 AM

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I just checked straight from the AIB website

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Signed up for notifs there

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MSI sent me an email at 2:00 am PST when I was playing GTFO, literally stopped midgame to complete my purchase

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 4:06 AM

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hmmm.... i'll go do that.

subtle flare Dec 7, 2022, 4:06 AM

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Didn't realize they also released the PSU alongside, that's why I don't have a PSU

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If you can, like Hapcher mentioned, I'd wait for AMD's 3D varients of AM5 cpus

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They're probably gonna rock

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 4:07 AM

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i unfortunately am at my stepping off point

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i need to replace a pc so i cant wait til jan

subtle flare Dec 7, 2022, 4:07 AM

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Same lmao

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Hopefully my backordered PSU comes in time

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been waiting months

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 4:07 AM

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you doing 4090 still?

subtle flare Dec 7, 2022, 4:08 AM

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I've had my 4090 since day 0

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 4:08 AM

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didnt want to use the adapter?

subtle flare Dec 7, 2022, 4:08 AM

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No

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Ugly

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 4:08 AM

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yeah tbh.

subtle flare Dec 7, 2022, 4:08 AM

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Would you want 4 dongles?

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Or 1 native?

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1 native looks a lot cleaner

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 4:08 AM

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i could live with it. reminder to fully completely and totally seat the cable.

subtle flare Dec 7, 2022, 4:09 AM

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I want more of a cleaner look

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And besides a powerful PSU would be beneficial

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:17 PM

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I need some help with pc building

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I've transferred my components to another case

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Everything is correctly plugged

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At the beginning it worked, but I only got to use the bio settings screen

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Since I forgot to plug the Sata cable (I think that was the problem)

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I accidentally overclocked some fans and the pc turned off

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I removed the round battery from the motherboard to reset the BIOS settings

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I then put it back in, as well as the GPU

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It all worked, but I had no display

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My screen was black, and it was correctly plugged in and set to HDMI

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So I thought that if I removed the battery once again, it could work again

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And so I did (to remove the battery I have to remove the GPU)

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:23 PM

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Did you plug the power cables back into the gpu after you reinsterted it?

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:23 PM

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Yes

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And now if I boot up the computer, it turns on and the instantly turns off

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:24 PM

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Do you have a speaker in your front io ports?

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Or a 2 digit number field on your mainboard

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:25 PM

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I think so

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:26 PM

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echo pawn Do you have a speaker in your front io ports?

Yeah I do

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:26 PM

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So your pc beeps when you turn it on?

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:27 PM

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Oh, I misunderstood

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I don't have a speaker, I don't hear any beeps

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Omw

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:29 PM

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Ayup

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:29 PM

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It's an ASUS H81-Gamer

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:30 PM

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I meant one of these speaker buzzers, some mainboards come with them in the box and they are reall handy when diagnosing issues

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Yeah, sadly they aren't that common, they are still very cheap at least.

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:31 PM

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I do have one of those

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echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:35 PM

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From what I am seeing everything seems normal

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Although I don't see the cpu power cable

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:35 PM

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Yeah, it's correctly plugged in

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:35 PM

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Ok good

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:35 PM

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It's behind the cooler

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You can barely see it

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:36 PM

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Well, you could plug in the speaker and see how it beeps

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:37 PM

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yeah ik

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That was one of my mistakes

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I've checked around 10 times that the GPU is fully slotted in

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:38 PM

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Yeah, sometimes the small mistakes are what get ya

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:39 PM

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Ok I've tried booting up and once again, turns on and instantly off

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The speaker didn't do any sound at all

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:39 PM

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I see

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Can you sent a zoomed in pic of the jumper pins?

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:40 PM

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Yeah

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There are some missing pins

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Perhaps that's the problem

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But not the essential ones

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So with all plugged in?

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:41 PM

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Yup

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But that shouldn't be a problem

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Yup

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No beeps are either that the cpu or ram is not seated correctly or the speaker is flipped

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Well most of the time

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:47 PM

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echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:47 PM

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Lemme quickly

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fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:47 PM

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I've unplugged the speaker just to make the pic

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:48 PM

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Yeah, all fits

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Yeah, only thing that comes to mind now is reseating cpu and ram

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Would make the most sense with immedate power off after starting, no beeps

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Or all of them with the speaker

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:52 PM

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So what's the next step

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Perhaps you've already typed the next step and the message ain't loading for me

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:52 PM

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Put the speaker in, and take out all the ram

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:53 PM

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omw

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:53 PM

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It should beep all the time until it shuts down

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:53 PM

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K

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:53 PM

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That is most of the time the signal that there is a ram issue

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:54 PM

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well, looks like my computer is not getting power

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since the psu is plugged in and the computer ain't turning on

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if it received power a red light from the motherboard would turn on

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:55 PM

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Uhm

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:55 PM

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For some reason it fixes whenever I remove the battery

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quite odd

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:55 PM

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That

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Is indeed odf

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Odd

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Could be a 24 pin issue

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Although I am pulling that out of my ass since I've never seen that

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Or well, a dead cmos

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:57 PM

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Perhaps I'm just very unlucky

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skill issue

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 6:57 PM

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Nah, PC's do PC things

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 6:59 PM

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Well, I'm removing the battery

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I'll wait a couple minutes and I'll try again

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goofy ahh pc

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K

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 7:03 PM

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my vote goes to test the power supply

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 7:03 PM

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Yep

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 7:03 PM

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unplug all the cables from the psu then jump the sense pin on the 24 pin

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if it shuts down instantly its the psu

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 7:04 PM

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Then boot without the battery first, see if that does anything and then plug it back in and try again

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Also currently in the train so gonna disconnect from time to time

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Curse you DB

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 7:07 PM

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bright shard if it shuts down instantly its the psu

and if its not this it might be the motherboard

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hmmmmmm

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i wonder if the motherboard is shorting out on something

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seeing as you only just moved the parts.

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did we do the "unplug and replug" all the cables on the mobo and psu yet?

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 7:12 PM

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Could be that something trips it

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I mean it all used to work before, so if nothing works, only thing to try would be to disassemble it completely and plug in everything one by one and trying to boot procedurally

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 7:14 PM

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again thenboom

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 7:14 PM

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Well, if nothing else works sadly

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 7:15 PM

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hmmmmmmmm

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unplug front IO pin headers then jump pwr

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i think you might just have the front pin headers wrong

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or you have cpu power unplugged

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 7:17 PM

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it's plugged

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but I still don't understand

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if it worked, why wouldn't work now

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 7:19 PM

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bright shard unplug front IO pin headers then jump pwr

then do this.

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 7:19 PM

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yeah, hol up

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still nothing

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I think I'll give up

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Thanks for trying anyways

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 7:30 PM

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hmmmm, last thing i'd check

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 7:30 PM

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tell me

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 7:30 PM

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is cpu_fan at the top of the board occupied?

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 7:31 PM

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yeah

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 7:31 PM

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then im out of ideas other than remove from case and bench test.

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 7:31 PM

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I see

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Still I was going to replace this computer

bright shard Dec 7, 2022, 7:31 PM

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ah.

fast anchor Dec 7, 2022, 7:32 PM

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Since the components are a bit outdated for today's games

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Anyways

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Thanks for trying

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I appreciate the help

echo pawn Dec 7, 2022, 7:39 PM

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Thanks for also being patient and helpful yourself

spice lark Dec 8, 2022, 9:03 PM

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the future is now, and its writing my college essay for me

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 6:30 AM

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imagine actually using the AI to write exams lmao

abstract kite Dec 9, 2022, 7:07 AM

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spice lark the future is now, and its writing my college essay for me

Is it accurate

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 7:19 AM

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why does game cook my pc 🥹

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 7:22 AM

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it's a demanding game

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 7:23 AM

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Im probably just unaware of how this stuff works, but I can run cyberpunk ultra 1080 at like 120fps without getting more than warm

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and this game makes my pc hot 🥲 I just dont wanna cook my shit by accident

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 7:36 AM

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Eh, well what temperature does it go at

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If you don't know any of that, you could open task manager or get MSI afterburner https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner/graphics-cards

Afterburner

MSI Afterburner is the world’s most recognized and widely used graphics card overclocking utility. It provides detailed overview of your hardware and comes with some additional features like customizing fan profiles, benchmarking and video recording.

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It's fine if it's like 85 celsius or below

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Personally I'd like it below 80c

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 7:42 AM

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perfect, ill grab afterburner and check it out. appreciate it

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 7:47 AM

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I hate that there was this one dude who paid to get his Afterburner malware scam on the top of the page for like so long

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 7:47 AM

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The fact that gpu/mgpu fan curves come stock so shit boggles the mind

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Like, stock settings my 970 goes to 75 full load, and ive got great cooling

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 7:50 AM

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I should probably do something like that honestly lmao

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it will ramp up and be loud when it's some game that uses it all up

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 7:51 AM

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hollow bison and this game makes my pc hot 🥲 I just dont wanna cook my shit by accident

To say the silent part out loud, change your fan curve settings with msi afterburner.

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 7:53 AM

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Yeah, you def should do that, and then you can go to settings, monitoring, and check out some stuff like GPU temp and/or usage, which is right at the top and check the Show in On Screen Display and apply

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Do the same for CPU temp that's under all the individual cores temp and the same for usage if you want

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 7:54 AM

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well I seem to be hanging around, 72-75c but Im going to cap framerate to 120fps for now and try again

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 7:54 AM

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Something I would like, but I hang around 77c, and hit 80c

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 7:55 AM

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Im just gonna put it out there

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 7:55 AM

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Put the side panel back on my case and it goes much past 80c, like 82, maybe 84

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 7:55 AM

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Anyone worth their salt, at the least changes their fan curves

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 7:55 AM

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Idek what fan curve is mane

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 7:56 AM

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Guess I am worth nothing 😔

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Fan curve is essentially how much the fan is going to do on a certain temperature. The hotter your CPU or GPU is, the higher the rpm of the fans will be

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 7:57 AM

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the curve editor only seems to account for voltage and frequency

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 7:57 AM

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fleet canopy Guess I am worth nothing 😔

We have weeb pfp, we've always been worth nothing

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 7:58 AM

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I'm gonna set my curve to go 0 up to 90c and then 100% after

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 7:58 AM

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I have to say though nice song you're listening to Mayroo

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 7:58 AM

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Yes

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 7:59 AM

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Anyway MSI Afterburner is awesome

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 7:59 AM

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hollow bison the curve editor only seems to account for voltage and frequency

Screenshot, you might be in the wrong place.

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 7:59 AM

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I never really knew what to set mine to so I just ignored it lmao

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It should be something like this

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Enabling user defined will allow for manual fan curves

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:00 AM

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ahh found it

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:01 AM

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It's the default for my 2070 Super if you're wondering why it may be shit

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I honestly don't really bother lmao

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:01 AM

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exact same as my 6600XT

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:01 AM

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So you're telling me it's the same for every card

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If that's the case, that's insanity if that's true

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:02 AM

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probably base default

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just general guideline for any card

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better to customize

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:02 AM

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It probably is like they had it set so long ago and just forgot lmao

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:03 AM

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fleet canopy It should be something like this

I usually do 100% at my max comfortable temp, then i drop into a demanding game, then drop fan speed until temp gets around 60c

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:04 AM

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Time to permanently set it to 100% on all temp

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:04 AM

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Ultimately it looks like two stairsteps

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I dont like fan speed changing a lot cause it sounds weird

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:05 AM

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alright, i think ive got a better setup now

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appreciate you guys taking the time to help me with that

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should I be changing the clocking settings at all?

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i have 32gb of mem so I doubt i need to change that

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:06 AM

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hollow bison better to customize

Yes. Msi afterburner honestly should be default on any windows install

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:07 AM

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unless its just gpu mem

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:07 AM

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No card has 32GB VRAM yet lol

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:07 AM

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Dont play with clock stuff

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:07 AM

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alright ill leave it

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:07 AM

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And yeah overclocking is kind of worthless nowadays I guess

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:07 AM

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Lol yea

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4090 only sees 10-20% inprovement

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 8:08 AM

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fleet canopy No card has 32GB VRAM yet lol

imagine using that VRAM to run a VM to play a game at the best loading times possible

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:08 AM

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I only break it out as final resort.

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:08 AM

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Some as low as 8%

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:08 AM

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You generally will not ever have to do it unless it's an AMD card, where undervolting gets you same perf but less power draw, and therefor less heat

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:08 AM

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youd just have to wait the same amount of time for everyone else to load in haha

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:08 AM

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Idk about nvidia too much but a lot of AMD cards that are newer are like that pretty much

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 8:08 AM

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RTX 4090 is a meme and not worth it unless you have money to burn anyway

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:08 AM

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It's not

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:09 AM

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The RTX 4090 is NOT a MEME!

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:09 AM

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4080 is a meme

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4090 isn't

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:09 AM

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It is a MASTERPIECE!

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 8:09 AM

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bigger meme

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:09 AM

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4090 is the performance king

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:09 AM

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4080 is the joke

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4090 I mean, sure

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:09 AM

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You can't deny the performance

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:09 AM

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Ray tracing isn't bad

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:09 AM

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so after saving the settings I can close afterburner and itll keep working yes? im sure it will I just never used before

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:09 AM

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7900 XTX for 1000$ or RTX 4090 for 1500$

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 8:09 AM

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smh yeah all of you just hate 4090 because you're poor 😤

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:09 AM

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I have a 4090...

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 8:10 AM

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LMAO

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:10 AM

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You get great ray tracing or a card that basically should do the same for 1000$ without great ray tracing

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:10 AM

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If AIB 7900XTX are higher then 4080 won't be a joke anymore

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7900XTX will become the new meme

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:10 AM

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I just want to be able to buy a new card

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:10 AM

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bright shard I just want to be able to buy a new card

Let's hope you land a FE card

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:11 AM

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Hoping.

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:11 AM

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hollow bison so after saving the settings I can close afterburner and itll keep working yes? ...

Theres a setting for start with windows and hide to tray.

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 8:12 AM

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skill issue PirateSimon

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:12 AM

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was tempted to pick up a different card on ebay when everyone was scrapping their crypto mining rigs but was too risky

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:12 AM

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bright shard Theres a setting for start with windows and hide to tray.

gotcha, ill set that up, thanks again

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:12 AM

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For me just doing the _ button pretty much closes it and keeps the gpu temp on screen

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whereas you actually completely close it if you do the other button

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:14 AM

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done and done

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:14 AM

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Cheers, have fun.

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:15 AM

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fleet canopy You get great ray tracing or a card that basically should do the same for 1000$ ...

Compared to the 4080, yes. 4090 still has better rasterization performance

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Let's pray that AMD doesn't screw this launch up

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:15 AM

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Was just 7900 XTX compared to 4090

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:15 AM

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No

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It was compared and targeted to the 4080

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:15 AM

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I wasn't?

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Probably cause I don't have it in one message yes it looks like that but I wasn't

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I don't know much about the 4080 aside that it's literally just the worst thing to come out of nvidia lately

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:17 AM

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4080 is a great card

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:17 AM

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hollow bison done and done

If you feel like having us double check your fan curve, feel free to post it if you want.

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:17 AM

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It's just the price everyone is complaining about

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:17 AM

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Wasn't it more like the 4080 was a tier down for their lower VRAM variant?

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:17 AM

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Everything you've seen is all about price

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The 4070 was the dumb one that they unlaunched

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Which is now being released as the 4070 Ti

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:17 AM

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Pricing bad. Different sku bad.

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:18 AM

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Everyone's complaining about the price per peformance

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But 4080 is a good card

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:18 AM

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Yes

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:18 AM

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If price was lower then ppp would've been better

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:18 AM

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subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:18 AM

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That's why everyone hates team green right now

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But no one can deny performance

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:19 AM

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So green goblin bad red robin good?

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:19 AM

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Pricing wise? Yes

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Performance-wise? We'll see

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Technically we should wait to say pricing wise yes

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:19 AM

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subtle flare If price was lower then ppp would've been better

Typically how ppp works.

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:19 AM

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Yep

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:20 AM

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Well I would hope AMD can at least provide a good card with a good price

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:20 AM

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That's all what every gamer is wishing for

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But the problem is we've seen a price hike for the AIB versions

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So we can't say anything until we see full prices at release dates

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:20 AM

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hollow bison

Set max fan speed at 78 imo

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:20 AM

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kk

subtle flare Dec 9, 2022, 8:22 AM

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We also gotta wait for benchmarks on 12/11

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They're for sure exaggerating the 8k performance

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But we need verification that AMD provides the performance they say the new cards can perform at your typical 1080/1440p/4K

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And benchmarks, etc.

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We have high hopes though

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They look like they're coming in strong

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:24 AM

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hollow bison

If you feel like this is too loud at idle, you can lower the fan speeds under 40c. Otherwise looks good.

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:24 AM

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Nah, got my headphones on anyways

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should have got this sooner, everything I read about it made it seem like it was just for overclocking

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:25 AM

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Very powerful, very useful.

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 8:25 AM

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hollow bison Nah, got my headphones on anyways

imagine not using IEMs

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#moondrops

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:26 AM

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I cant wear iems all day

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But i got the tin t2 hifis and i like em.

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Gotta love chifi

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 8:29 AM

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imagine not wearing IEMs in your sore and swollen ears all day

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:31 AM

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mine are comfy, need them for work or id go nuts

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:31 AM

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Im lost without music.

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Had that headphone hair dent in hs

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 8:34 AM

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I'm also just joking around because someone else in another server I'm in will shred blood if they hear any mention of headphones/headsets

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they will defend IEMs and doxx you for not using them

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:35 AM

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As him for an iem mod mic

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 8:35 AM

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ask them for jdm oem earbuds

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:35 AM

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Ask him for open back iems

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:39 AM

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What is an iem?

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Only thing I can think of is in ear but the m I can't figure out for myself

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:40 AM

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In ear monitor

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I sleep now

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:41 AM

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Damn people got that 4k 240hz monitors in their ears? That's fucking wild

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:41 AM

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Mines got dp 2.1

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:41 AM

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Got damn

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:41 AM

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But yeah, monitor.

fleet canopy Dec 9, 2022, 8:42 AM

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Or effectively inferior and useless ycool

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Though it would be nice to use them, cause the headphones do sometimes cause problems, it would be some fantasy miracle to be able to use them

bright shard Dec 9, 2022, 8:46 AM

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Iems are good for 'head resting on object' listening

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 8:48 AM

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hollow bison ask them for jdm oem earbuds

they'll just tell you to buy the Moondrop Aria

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PirateSimon

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 8:49 AM

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fleet canopy Damn people got that 4k 240hz monitors in their ears? That's fucking wild

earbuds essentially though

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the fancy term is IEM

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it's just earbuds though

hollow bison Dec 9, 2022, 9:00 AM

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I like them both but I can only wear headphones at pc, buds everywhere else all the time

vast harness Dec 9, 2022, 3:41 PM

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formal plume they'll just tell you to buy the Moondrop Aria

well no shit

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they are unironically the best on budget out there

formal plume Dec 9, 2022, 3:43 PM

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you're the one that forces people to buy them aren't you

vast harness Dec 9, 2022, 3:44 PM

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I don't even use headphones these days lol

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I managed to somehow be content with my laptop's speakers

bright shard Dec 10, 2022, 1:16 AM

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hmmm, if you have 3 front intake, 3(empty fan slots above cpu), and 2 exhaust on the rear.

if you have a fan above a air cpu cooler, would you point the fan down or up?

placid sentinel Dec 10, 2022, 1:36 AM

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hot go up and out, cool fills void, mmm

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so out with the hot i say

subtle flare Dec 10, 2022, 2:18 AM

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Also think convection

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Heat naturally rises to the top

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So I agree, heat out top

bright shard Dec 10, 2022, 2:43 AM

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thing is that if you pull air out above the cpu, it would have otherwise been pulled out by the rear exhaust

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so ive been thinking of mixing in/ex fans on the top

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the intake would feed directly into the cpu intake fan, then the other would updraft from the cpu.

placid sentinel Dec 10, 2022, 2:55 AM

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so kind of feed cool from above? .. not a bad strat per se, cool "overpressure" and rear extract.. can work, maybe..

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hopefully the warm doesnt circle back, adequate separahhuun

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server racks are quite allergic to badly insulated cabins, those 1u computes dont like warm intake at all..

bright shard Dec 10, 2022, 2:58 AM

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generally why exhausts point torwards the local hot air reclaim

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and rack units only flow in one direction

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wouldnt make sense if the preceding rack dumps directly into the next rackspace

vast harness Dec 10, 2022, 3:24 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/719811866959806514/1050975317637996554/20221209_211922.jpg

bright shard Dec 10, 2022, 3:25 AM

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nice

vast harness Dec 10, 2022, 3:32 AM

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now

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to get everything else

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🗿

ivory notch Dec 10, 2022, 5:02 AM

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hey I have a new gaming laptop and it has 2 things going on that I cant tell if they are normal or if I need to take it back. it seems to get warm while I watch youtube or just get on the web (I use OPERA GX) and it seems to do this more so while plugged in. second switching between turbo and performance doesnt change the fan speed even when gamming

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if anyone is willing to help me out I would be very thankful

formal plume Dec 10, 2022, 5:06 AM

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ivory notch hey I have a new gaming laptop and it has 2 things going on that I cant tell if ...

that's pretty normal

bright shard Dec 10, 2022, 5:06 AM

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Try checking the bios settings for fan speeds

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Windows power settings are horseshit

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Your laptop is swapping from igpu to dgpu when you are plugging it in

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Changing that setting can vary from laptop to laptop

ivory notch Dec 10, 2022, 5:14 AM

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bright shard Changing that setting can vary from laptop to laptop

thanks Its at least worth a shot

ivory notch Dec 10, 2022, 5:14 AM

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formal plume that's pretty normal

sucks but at least now II know

bright shard Dec 10, 2022, 5:15 AM

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ivory notch sucks but at least now II know

You can always buy a laptop cooler

formal plume Dec 10, 2022, 5:19 AM

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^^ yeah a cooling pad can help

vast harness Dec 10, 2022, 6:04 AM

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formal plume that's pretty normal

eh, it depends on many factors

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like
50 °C on a laptop with a shit fan? fine
50 °C on a laptop with a relatively fine fan? that's concerning

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at least on the context of playing a video in youtube

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cause i doubt the web player has any sort of heavy post-processing enabled

formal plume Dec 10, 2022, 6:08 AM

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vast harness like 50 °C on a laptop with a shit fan? fine 50 °C on a laptop with a relatively...

50c is concerning on a laptop? 😂

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okay go back to your desktop and S6 Tablet

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actually if 50c on a laptop is concerning I legit consider the iPad M1 or S6 Tablet

fleet canopy Dec 10, 2022, 6:17 AM

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laptops will just run hot no matter what

ivory notch Dec 10, 2022, 6:17 AM

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the fans I have are good I would think. i mean it keeps temps fine while gaming so why its not ramping up a bit for youtube to keep it cool seems weird to me. IDK how to check the temps it just feels warm to me especially sense its just youtube running at the time.
i dont run other programs while doing it or even have other tabs open. I even quit programs just to make sure nothing is running but its still warm

fleet canopy Dec 10, 2022, 6:17 AM

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You might as well accept 95c for one

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Unless it's like that funky laptop with built in extra fans you have when pulling the keyboard back

formal plume Dec 10, 2022, 6:26 AM

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fleet canopy You might as well accept 95c for one

whenever buying a laptop, this

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definitely if it's a gaming laptop

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they are going to redline that thermal throttling

vast harness Dec 10, 2022, 6:39 AM

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formal plume 50c is concerning on a laptop? 😂

well, perhaps a bit above 50c

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it's not that temp that is concerning

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but extrapolate it to some performance heavy application and you can see there are definitely heating issues

formal plume Dec 10, 2022, 6:44 AM

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laptops are shit for cooling idk what you expected

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Jesus to come back?

bright shard Dec 10, 2022, 7:31 AM

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I was more hoping for RGBesus

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Or RNGesus

subtle flare Dec 10, 2022, 11:23 PM

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My laptop running GTFO runs at 99 degrees for the CPU and roughly 80-90 for the GPU

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It’s basically standard for a gaming laptop to literally overheat

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Besides, new standard heating for latest CPU is 105 degrees, so rip

vast harness Dec 10, 2022, 11:40 PM

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Just undervolt and limit turbo clocks

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I was able to literally reduce like 10 to 20 degrees of heat on my laptop by just doing that shit lol

formal plume Dec 11, 2022, 3:32 AM

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why not do that on your boiling 50c laptop? 🤓

subtle flare Dec 11, 2022, 3:42 AM

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I have no overclocking ability on my laptop, running a really old one w/ a 1060 and 8th gen i7

halcyon wedge Dec 11, 2022, 9:26 AM

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you could get one of those fan base attachments for the laptop, really helps with temperature management

subtle flare Dec 11, 2022, 9:43 AM

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I bought one months before, don't use it now because I'm building my PC

twilit crow Dec 11, 2022, 12:50 PM

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Anyone had any joy with Battleye on Linux?

vast harness Dec 11, 2022, 5:04 PM

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which game specifically?

bright shard Dec 11, 2022, 5:17 PM

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twilit crow Anyone had any joy with Battleye on Linux?

Worked fine when it was enabled?

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If its not enabled you are sol

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You might need to install a runtime

twilit crow Dec 11, 2022, 5:24 PM

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Got issues running ARK on official servers atm, really racking my brain.

calm token Dec 11, 2022, 5:44 PM

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When your new RTX can’t fit your new mid ATX tower

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I’m gonna make it fit

echo pawn Dec 11, 2022, 5:53 PM

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That's what he said

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But good luck, if it doesn't fit, feel free to send it my way

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Big preesh

wild gull Dec 11, 2022, 7:39 PM

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?

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Remove the other slot covers

bright shard Dec 11, 2022, 9:22 PM

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calm token When your new RTX can’t fit your new mid ATX tower

does it not fit because of that metal rib?

calm token Dec 11, 2022, 10:20 PM

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bright shard does it not fit because of that metal rib?

It does now

calm token Dec 11, 2022, 10:39 PM

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wild gull Remove the other slot covers

It wouldn’t be lined up with the motherboard

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All I need to finish the computer is a few fans and a cpu cooler which has been ordered already

wild gull Dec 11, 2022, 10:45 PM

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calm token It wouldn’t be lined up with the motherboard

Huh? Those things are usually standardized and should fit anything

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What kinda case you got?

calm token Dec 11, 2022, 10:46 PM

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wild gull Huh? Those things are usually standardized and should fit anything

The GPU has a specific slot on the motherboard that it needs to line up to

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Those two slots were the only slots that lines up

wild gull Dec 11, 2022, 10:47 PM

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Oh yea usually you're able to screw off the entire cage but I guess they just put in those bolts and were done

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But it should not make a difference

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Cos it's always there with any case

calm token Dec 12, 2022, 12:16 AM

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Nah the cage was made Into the case

wild gull Dec 12, 2022, 12:31 PM

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yes

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theyre usually not in the way

kind prairie Dec 12, 2022, 4:56 PM

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Does anyone know how well GTFO runs on the new Radeon 6800s mobile gpu? From other YouTubers it looks pretty promising.

inner parcel Dec 12, 2022, 5:36 PM

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calm token When your new RTX can’t fit your new mid ATX tower

lol me and you seem to have the same motherboard

calm token Dec 12, 2022, 5:47 PM

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inner parcel lol me and you seem to have the same motherboard

MSI gang

formal glacier Dec 12, 2022, 9:01 PM

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We need help figuring out a connection error with R2B4, we need people with AMD FX 83 series CPUs to join the post in #1049599987878723635 to join people having the error to see if it's related to the CPU. We need a bigger sample size

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 1:13 AM

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Big yikes to benchmarks for XTX and XT

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That's a fat rip

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Some games are awesome

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Other games and programs suck really bad

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Jeez

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Other things could be better too dang

merry bay Dec 13, 2022, 1:43 AM

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it's only a fat rip if you somehow expected it to beat a 4090

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 1:44 AM

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I mean, there's still a lot of problems with it

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What the hell is that fan curve

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Then 8K gaming was a massive fluke

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4080 + 4090 still solidly beats it, even though 8K shouldn't matter

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AMD walked all over nvidia and made it such a big deal

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They really screwed that up

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The idling power issues

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Hopefully their drivers fix some things

merry bay Dec 13, 2022, 1:46 AM

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it's close to a 4080, XTX beats it in a good number of cases, for less price. If partner models don't have that coil whine they're an excellent card

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 1:46 AM

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Partner models have an issue

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Price

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Hopefully they aren't as expensive as the 4080 as snapshots have shown

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Because then everyone's just gonna buy a 4080

merry bay Dec 13, 2022, 1:47 AM

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going invidia is closer to a set it and forget it scenario for sure

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what we got is just about what there was to expect

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 1:48 AM

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Not really

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It's a fair bit disappointing

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AMD themselves advertised 80-90 fps 8k gaming

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What a fat joke

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Gives you 40 instead

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Nice

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RT is still behind, which is expected, so that's not really disappointing

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But coil whine? Power issues? Voltage?

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Seriously?

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Even before hand they mentioned 3 gigahertz clock speeds

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But that disappeared well before a long time ago

merry bay Dec 13, 2022, 1:53 AM

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subtle flare AMD themselves *advertised* 80-90 fps 8k gaming

didn't that presentation have press notes about their 8K resolution not being anywhere close to actual 8K?
not saying that's not slimy, just that those claims are always shaky at best and barely technically true

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 1:53 AM

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Yes

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Still slimy

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If anything you wouldn't expect a 50% drop

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You'd probably expect a drop of 10-20 from actual

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Half is extremely surprising

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I suppose if there were better drivers and more build quality put into the product it'd be a smash hit

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If coil whine, etc. weren't there it wouldn't be as bad

merry bay Dec 13, 2022, 1:55 AM

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they're kinda shooting themselves in the foot there, but not like anyone expects to high refresh 8K game, the artificating from FSR/DLSS required to push that would eliminate almost all benefits of going 8K probably

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hell even an 8K monitor isn't easy to find

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 1:56 AM

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lol yea

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And it still hurts to see them suck really bad still in the workload environment

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 2:20 AM

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From 3 popular yt videos, it seems like the XTX is mneh

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1 video shows the 4080 beating the XTX marginally in almost every game ran

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1 video shows it split between the 2

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And the last shows more of the XTX beating the 4080

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Rasterization only ofc

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Still some serious competition

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Basically trades blows

bright shard Dec 13, 2022, 6:08 AM

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both the xt and xtx are terrible cards dont buy them :^)

formal plume Dec 13, 2022, 6:39 AM

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^^^

bright shard Dec 13, 2022, 6:47 AM

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so anyway, seeing as i got mine ordered

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now i can say, i don't give a shit, i bought one anyway.

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they're open for preorder for whoever cares.

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 8:03 AM

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bright shard now i can say, i don't give a shit, i bought one anyway.

Well, yikes

bright shard Dec 13, 2022, 8:25 AM

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subtle flare Well, yikes

Well honestly, its a preorder, so it probably wont even ship

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:27 AM

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Well iirc AMD usually gets them to a higher performance over time

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After all, AMD isn't really getting their software as good as nvidia early on, and they may be better much later than they are now

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From what I can recall of a benchmark, the card isn't performing that great on specific direct x versions compared to the nvidia alternate

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:09 AM

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They have issues, not just driver issues

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FE has coil whine and apparently has a higher power draw

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Especially at idle

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That’s not good at all

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Also, the fans run more rampant also because of the idle power draw

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Everyone be complaining about 4090 power draw but the XTX shows power draw issues

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If anything in games and in rasterization XTX is great competition against the 4080

dry hollow Dec 13, 2022, 9:11 AM

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I thought my card had coil wine problem.

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:12 AM

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But it’s really dependent on the game

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4080 sometimes wins

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XTX sometimes wins

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Overall though the 4080 has a better build, it seems, and then better performance in other areas for the premium price

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What AMD should’ve done is fix the small issues that shouldn’t be an issue in the first place

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Thermals is also an issue

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Obviously stock coolers aren’t gonna be great

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Though 40xx gen has been decent

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However XTX has such a bad fan curve

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If you want anything better thermals and performance you’re gonna want an AIB version, which may or may not be just as expensive as the 4080

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That’s the marketing issue

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Because then people will just buy a 4080

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:29 AM

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Oh yeah I forgot about the idle temps

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That's just absurd, and also weird they never caught that problem

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It was like 15c higher than a 4080 in idle temps I think, not sure

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 9:33 AM

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coil whine is whatever tho, apart from the sound

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simply wear headphone

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ChapmanStare

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:59 AM

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They have a higher power draw idle than a 4080

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Which is odd and bad at the same time

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Draws more energy for nothing, it runs at higher temps, fans speed, and higher energy cost

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 12:43 PM

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efficiency issue

north elk Dec 13, 2022, 5:40 PM

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Ordered the 7900 xtx let's gooo

north elk Dec 13, 2022, 5:43 PM

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subtle flare Then 8K gaming was a massive fluke

laughs in european

8k screens are such energy hogs they're prolly not getting sold here anyway

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 6:17 PM

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theyre just gonna cheat on the efficiency thing

sweet dune Dec 13, 2022, 7:33 PM

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im trying to research parts i can upgrade my rig with but feeling overwhelmed on where to start. on a budget of $900, where best should i upgrade?

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 7:37 PM

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Gpu if you care about gaming

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You will also need a new PSU most likely with more wattage

north elk Dec 13, 2022, 7:50 PM

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Maybe some ram, idk if 8g are sufficient for everything

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:51 PM

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Yeah, if 500w isn't sufficient, I believe 650w should be enough, but honestly 750-850w might only be like 10-20$ extra

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I'd go ram, graphics card and psu imo

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 7:52 PM

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Swapping ram on an older platform is a bit of a waste

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:52 PM

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well at least you'd spare 80$ for something else if ram doesn't go in

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 7:52 PM

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Unless there's some open slots. They could then just buy the same two pair kit

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:53 PM

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~~assuming he's in us~~

north elk Dec 13, 2022, 7:53 PM

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Swapping isn't needed they probably should have 2 others slots

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:53 PM

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Or maybe about 60$ cause it does get that cheap

formal plume Dec 13, 2022, 7:55 PM

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lucid harness Swapping ram on an older platform is a bit of a waste

wdym DDR5 is still fresh

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unless they swap the motherboard out to one that has DDR5

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:55 PM

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They have 900$

formal plume Dec 13, 2022, 7:55 PM

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I can see them getting a DDR4 kit

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:55 PM

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Every motherboard is about 900$

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 7:55 PM

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north elk Maybe some ram, idk if 8g are sufficient for everything

They are naaaaaht

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You can look for the same kind of ram used

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:55 PM

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A 3200mhz 2x8gb kit is literally about 60$

formal plume Dec 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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fleet canopy Every motherboard is about 900$

thats why I was so confused why not upgrade the RAM to at least 16GB

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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Ram is pretty cheapo

north elk Dec 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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wild gull They are naaaaaht

opens intellij
OOM killer enters the chat

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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And it's not some crap from some dumpster either

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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Literally just open google chrome

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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Now for cards idk

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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16GB is enough, they just need the same ram kit if their mobo has extra slots, replacing the PSU and GPU is what will give the most notable difference in gameplay

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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My laptop has 8GB and I can only do light weight browsing on there

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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yeah that's about it

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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wild gull My laptop has 8GB and I can only do light weight browsing on there

stop using chrome

formal plume Dec 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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as someone who used to game on 8GB
I am telling you 16GB is worth it

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 7:57 PM

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fleet canopy stop using chrome

Well I don't

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Chika_Victory

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Vivaldi is the best browser in the world

north elk Dec 13, 2022, 7:57 PM

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Isn't Vivaldi chromium?

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 7:57 PM

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RX 6650 XT is pretty good for the price imo, otherwise a 3060 Ti if they want Nvidia. Or wait a bit for some cheaper offerings of the new chips

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:57 PM

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Maybe vivaldi is sucking up all the ram too

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 7:57 PM

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Yep

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It's goated tho and I just open tons of tabs

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:58 PM

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Of course

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 7:58 PM

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happy

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Anyhow

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When the cooling paste is sus

formal plume Dec 13, 2022, 7:58 PM

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PirateSimon

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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Way too much

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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Remember kids, Intel stock coolers are not cool

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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lucid harness Way too much

Gamers nexus has proven you WRONG!

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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wild gull <:happy:1038177331765841950>

HEAVYFLAMER

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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It's just gonna be annoying to clean is all

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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Well I didn't clean it

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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Clean it smh

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:00 PM

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I just put the cooler back on, it's not my problem

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:00 PM

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sachiscared

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:00 PM

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The customer can clean it themselves

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:00 PM

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That paste looked crusty

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:00 PM

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It was

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:00 PM

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Just put peanut butter on it instead

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Should be the same thing

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:01 PM

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Ketchup

sweet dune Dec 13, 2022, 8:03 PM

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north elk Maybe some ram, idk if 8g are sufficient for everything

currently on 24 (8 base and 16 from previous addition)

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:03 PM

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Should be fine in regards to ram then

sweet dune Dec 13, 2022, 8:05 PM

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so, gpu and wattage

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what about getting an i7?

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:05 PM

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Eh, I think CPU is sufficient enough

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Though if you want to upgrade that, I guess you could but I would recommend getting with a newer gen of it rather than same one

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:06 PM

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If you can find one for cheap that fits the socket I think it would be fine

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:06 PM

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if u wanna upgrade the cpu you should just upgrade mobo and ram as well

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:07 PM

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Yeah that too

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At that point it's just another pc

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:07 PM

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At that point you'd probably be better off just buying 16gb of 3200mhz

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:07 PM

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the ryzen 5 5600x is pretty cheap rn

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:07 PM

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smh not very gamer cpu

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get 5800x3d for about

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5 million

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:08 PM

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gamers thinking = more cores better smh

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:08 PM

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Incorrect

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:08 PM

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Ryzen 7 is basically worthless compared to the 5

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:08 PM

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Superior CPU that is kind of just a ryzen 7000

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:08 PM

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yea

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the normal R7 is just dum tho

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:08 PM

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i5-13400 when it comes out 👌

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:08 PM

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pensive_cry so mean

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how dare you call my purchase of the 3700X dumb

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:09 PM

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the new ryzen 7 is even more useless, theres just not enough of a gap to justify the extra moneys

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:09 PM

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Guess it'll go into the trash

hexed umbra Dec 13, 2022, 8:09 PM

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dont worry im still rocking the 3700x lol

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:10 PM

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they should just only release a Ryzen octa core and not hexa core cos wtf it dont matter bruh

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:10 PM

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Yeah maybe the 3d cache of the Ryzen 7000 stuff might be really good, but honestly they're also gonna price that pretty big

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:10 PM

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If you go amd CPU may as well get an amd GPU to benefit from the platform more

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:10 PM

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dont

formal plume Dec 13, 2022, 8:10 PM

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fleet canopy Just put peanut butter on it instead

actually mustard is the best all be it does stain

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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I don't think it benefits at all unless it's a ryzen 5000 with the rx 6000 series

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I don't think anything older supports it?

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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amd drivers bad

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KEKW

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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They're fine

formal plume Dec 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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they're actually decent nowadays

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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"sufficient"

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As I get the 6900XT

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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and getting a 3000 series nvidia gpu is worth cos of the dlss

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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crash like release

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Nah don't get it for dlss lmao

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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dlss isn't necessary unless you use 1440p or 4k

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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well not only that

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theyre better and they have dlss

formal plume Dec 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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I hate DLSS because I don't want to game at 4K lmaooo

merry bay Dec 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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wild gull and getting a 3000 series nvidia gpu is worth cos of the dlss

have you actually seen how DLSS looks? People only take into account the fps but then hate it when they get to feel it firsthand

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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Get it for what the prices are right now compared to anything else

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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And if you're using at 1080p it's going to be a mess

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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yeah

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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idk mate i use 1440p

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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DLSS is so fucking horrible imo unless it's not some game where visuals do matter in a way

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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DLSS ON

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RTX ON

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shakeme

formal plume Dec 13, 2022, 8:13 PM

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I mean you need DLSS to use RTX anyway SantonianWhatElse

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:13 PM

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dlss is pretty much a hit or miss with poor or okay implementation

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:13 PM

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Ray tracing is so half assed these days it's not necessary

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:13 PM

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ray tracing in cp2077 is goated

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:13 PM

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Ready or Not cannot do dlss at all, the holos and dot sights have the reticle blurry as shit

formal plume Dec 13, 2022, 8:14 PM

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wild gull ray tracing in cp2077 is goated

I mean it's the only game where ray tracing is actually viable

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:14 PM

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I think at this point it just depends on how the devs implement it

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:14 PM

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I would say getting newer GPU for av1 support is nice

formal plume Dec 13, 2022, 8:14 PM

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well FNAF SB but it's shit lmao

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:14 PM

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ive yet to play metro exodus

merry bay Dec 13, 2022, 8:14 PM

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I'm sure I'll appreciate raytracing support years down the line when the performance impact won't make me dip below 90 or 120fps without DLSS. But for today would rather not

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:14 PM

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lol

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:14 PM

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There just needs to be cheaper offerings LinusPainTips

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:15 PM

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I believe I did rtx metro exodus

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it's ass from when the characters were walking on snow

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Literal electrified snow

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It may be due to having the 2070 Super but come on

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:15 PM

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Shimmering?

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:15 PM

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darktide is sadly running so fucking shit that you can only put raytracing on low

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:15 PM

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Not shimmer

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It's literally an electrified eeffect

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:15 PM

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thonking

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Wat

merry bay Dec 13, 2022, 8:15 PM

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does metro exodus have HDR support? Imagine the electrified snow + it being blindingly bright

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in the sunlight

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:18 PM

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what about keyboards tho

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where them clicky blue users at so i can hate

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Akshually

lucid harness Dec 13, 2022, 8:18 PM

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cherry brand keyboards

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Every keyboard I bought from them has been built like a tank

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:19 PM

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merry bay does metro exodus have HDR support? Imagine the electrified snow + it being blin...

I guess it does?

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:19 PM

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windows 11 can turn anything into HDR

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 8:19 PM

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It is a fairly new game

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windows 11?

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death

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:19 PM

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its aight

formal plume Dec 13, 2022, 8:21 PM

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lucid harness There just needs to be cheaper offerings <:LinusPainTips:865566959399338014>

Arc diamond hands 👏

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make a third party to the duopoly

wild gull Dec 13, 2022, 8:21 PM

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intel

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soon

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:38 PM

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Rip AIB XTX prices

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:39 PM

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Probably still better value than the XT

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:41 PM

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They probably are

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Wait no

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They aren’t

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:41 PM

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I was joking

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:41 PM

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Because prices are so damn hiked up that it’s cheaper to buy a 4080

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Rip AMD strategy and embargo

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:42 PM

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Though hardware unboxed did a review on the XT like today I think? It's like 17% worse performance than the XTX and the price to perf is like a whole dollar extra than XTX

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:42 PM

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Their market share also doesn’t help

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People who got the reference card got the best deal, yes

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At the expensive of the issues mentioned above

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If you wanted those issues ridden of, which are actually kinda pressing, you’d have to go w/ an AIB model

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:43 PM

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Well all that's left to see is the rest of the line up

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:43 PM

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There are only like 1 or 2 AIB models a little over MSRP

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Every other model is just way too expensive

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Hell, I saw one from ASRock w/ a $1.4k XTX

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just buy a 4080 that performs better

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For $1.2k

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:45 PM

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I forgor the 4080 being 1.2k

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I don't know how since I know the 1080 ti was like 1.5K, and probably 2-2.5k at some point

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:47 PM

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If only either AMD made a more impressive card or lowered the price, then they would have serious serious competition

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But this is pretty bad

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Issues w/ the reference card drives people for an AIB version

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:47 PM

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An absolute laughingstock you might say?

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:47 PM

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AIB is more expensive

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:47 PM

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Amazing they just butcher both the CPU and GPU(so far) lineup

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:48 PM

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XTX only wins in some cases over the 4080, other it loses, and only provides competition in rasterization

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At this point, 4080 is a better deal for better performance at the same cost of an AIB XTX

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In RT and workspace it smashes XTX out

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:49 PM

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It sure does

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Like every generation I believe

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:49 PM

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AMD was banking on price and rasterization to win over

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But it seems like it really lost price

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We all knew RT wasn’t gonna be good

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And that it still had no workspace competition

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But with prices they would’ve made it up

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But no

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XTX AIB comes out the same price as a 4080

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Nvidia wins

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:50 PM

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When are the days where the top of the line was 800$

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:50 PM

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Come

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Inflation took over

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:50 PM

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And thus

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Everyone got poorer by each new generation

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:50 PM

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AMD CPUs aren’t too bad

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:51 PM

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Not to just pay for the card, but for the power bill

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Yeah AMD is okay up to 5000

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I can't say anything about 7000 since all I know about it is 95c meme

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:51 PM

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Intel beat AMD in the latest generation in terms of cores

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But AMD holds steady with core clocks in all cores

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Meanwhile Intel provides p-cores so it’s split between p and e cores

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So it’s not “steady”

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:52 PM

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fleet canopy I can't say anything about 7000 since all I know about it is 95c meme

7000 performance is awesome

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If you want heat, screw intel

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105c meme

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105c is the new standard set by intel

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AMD set 95c

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:53 PM

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Yeah but even then I kind of just don't like having it 95c lol

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:53 PM

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If you have a good cooler it’d probably be in the range of 80-90

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:54 PM

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Yeah but personally I kind of just dislike it above 80c mostly

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:55 PM

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Need to test with my CPU when it’d really ever reach that

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You aren’t gonna stress your CPU every single day to 95c

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:55 PM

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Yeah

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The best upgrade is also just getting a 5800x3d too, I already have the board so I don't think it'd be any different aside from switching to the newest gen more pricier

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:56 PM

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7000 series X3D is coming

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:56 PM

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Yes

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:56 PM

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May be a massive hit

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Might switch

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Even though I haven’t even used my 7900X

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Lmao

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I guess I’ll just sell it

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:57 PM

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When does the 3d cache version come out anyway?

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:57 PM

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They will announce it next CES January I believe

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Don’t know when it’ll be released

fleet canopy Dec 13, 2022, 9:58 PM

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Oh so probably mid 2023 then

subtle flare Dec 13, 2022, 9:58 PM

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Probs

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A 12 core X3D sounds amazing

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16 even

calm token Dec 14, 2022, 12:41 AM

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after fully building my new rig

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I did a test run with max graphics

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maintained a good 60 fps (set for my monitor) and roofing at 63C on the GPU temp

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 12:45 AM

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north elk *laughs in european* 8k screens are such energy hogs they're prolly not getting...

The XTX is an energy hog at idle 💀

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 12:45 AM

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calm token maintained a good 60 fps (set for my monitor) and roofing at 63C on the GPU temp

Nice

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 1:12 AM

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subtle flare The XTX is an energy hog at idle 💀

probably just a driver bug, because its only on certain monitors.

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probably, worst case, 50 watts idle. the worst case.

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 1:17 AM

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No

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It’s not

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Worst case was 70-80 watts plus

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I doubt it’s a driver but either

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Especially if there’s a voltage problem with it as well

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AIBs are bound to fix the problem by bringing better power delivery for sure

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But at the price point of a 4080 I’m not sure anyone’s going to try to buy an AIB version of the XTX

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 3:09 AM

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subtle flare Worst case was 70-80 watts plus

idle literally drops to like 30w with single monitors

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 3:10 AM

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subtle flare But at the price point of a 4080 I’m not sure anyone’s going to try to buy an AI...

theyve literally been sold out.

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but i feel like they will sit along with the 4080

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 3:11 AM

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Wow they must be incredibly stupid to buy a 1.4k card when a 1.2k 4080 is available

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They haven't sold out, they aren't shipped yet or in stock

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 3:12 AM

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subtle flare Wow they must be incredibly stupid to buy a 1.4k card when a 1.2k 4080 is availa...

i had an xtx in cart for 1.1k after tax

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 3:12 AM

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We're talking an AIB version for 1.4k MSRP

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Not reference card

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 3:12 AM

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but backordered so fuck that. yes. aib.

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AIB

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3x8pin

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 3:13 AM

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Some AIB are 999 as i mentioned before

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Others arent

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 3:15 AM

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subtle flare They haven't sold out, they aren't shipped yet or in stock

all of the major aibs have shipped xtx cards. some aib custom boards

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 3:19 AM

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mbad that's right

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 3:34 AM

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XT wasn't a big sell out

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XTX had less stock

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Some AIBs were worth it

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Others werent

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Most of the AIBs I saw you'd just get a 4080 instead

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 3:37 AM

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i agree, the XT AIB or not were not very popular, i expect price cuts within a month.

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there is certainly a lot of evidence pointing to this being a middling generation all around.

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even the cut down dp 2.1 is a letdown

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all the same, comparing to the 6950, buying the 7900xt even though its worse value proposition to it(6950xt/7900xtx)

#

there are definite positives for going with newer generation cards, after the teething is over with.

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personally, i found the xt/xtx more attractive than 3000/4000 because of the better vk performance, which i almost exclusively use vk.

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and at this point, so does intel for older d3xd

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its, a very weird and unattractive gpu generation from both.

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 3:49 AM

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XTX AIB and XT AIBs both saw very bad prices

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XT is simply not worth it

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XTX maybe

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Depending on AIB price

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 4:01 AM

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I think the cards made sense with the projected perf, but they are not there. I agree the price could be better.

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The fe definitely sold out harder than custom xt cards

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I think its interesting where the p2p market will go from here.

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The xt was expected to compete with 4080. It does, but barely.

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The xtx beats the 4080 but not significantly

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I think the amd tradition of providing whole boards to aibs is strange

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When we really expect custom aib boards

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It smells of desperate grabs for market share

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 4:12 AM

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bright shard The xt was expected to compete with 4080. It does, but barely.

The XTX was expected to compete w/ the 4080 series, not the XT

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 4:12 AM

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bright shard The xtx beats the 4080 but not significantly

XTX only beats 4080 in some games in terms of rasterization

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4080 sinks XTX in RT and workspace programs

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Also, 4080 benchmarks have been shown that 4080 has better rasterization

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It's dependent on the game you play

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Sometimes the XTX wins in rasterization, sometimes the 4080 wins in rasterization

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It's just a head to head battle

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We all thought the XTX would beat the 4080 in rasterization by a solid margin

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 4:14 AM

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Theres a lot of mincing of words, i agree on those points

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 4:15 AM

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But we got let down

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If the margins were better and the XTX beat the 4080 in every single rasterization benchmark, then that's an achievement

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It would be flying off the shelves and actually providing serious competition to nvidia

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But I don't think nvidia has to worry about really anything at this point

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Probably focusing on how tf to sell the 4070 Ti

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Lmao

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Don't think that'd go so hot

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 4:17 AM

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The 70ti is going to be a hard sell at 700/800

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 4:17 AM

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Who knows

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Watch them unlaunch it again

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 4:18 AM

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Both product naming stacks are fucked

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 4:18 AM

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lmao yea

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Has been starting with the 16xx cards

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 4:18 AM

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Neither stick to anything other than market separation

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Asinine

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Shifts the anchoring temporarily. A scam.

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Enough x's

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Xtx/ti should be the same die sku

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Xxxx5xxxxx should be the midrange target.

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 4:23 AM

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lmao

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 4:24 AM

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Cant wait for the 7977 xtxx superx

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Pretty soon i think they'll start using new letters, like z or y

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 4:26 AM

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I mean

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I can't wait to see the 8090

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Probably looks like a GTFO cell

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😂

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 4:26 AM

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9090

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 4:26 AM

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I've called the cells 8090s

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 4:27 AM

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3 years ago we called em 5090s

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Pretty soon well be bringing the generator to the cell

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I dont like this gpu meta of dumping the heat into the mobo

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 4:32 AM

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My 4090 is water cooled so I don't have that issue Clownery

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 4:32 AM

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Like, we go through the effort of having beefy vrm heatsinks just to blast hot air at them

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 4:32 AM

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Honestly though the temps on the 40xx series cards haven't been all that bad

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 4:33 AM

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Well, they scaled back the 4090

#

Fwiw, they may have gotten hot enough to mog any sort of cooling tech

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Im waiting to see more hybrid cooling cards

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Air+loop

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 4:35 AM

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I have a hybrid cooling card

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 4:35 AM

#

More

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 4:35 AM

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MSI 4090 Suprim Liquid X

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There was another one all liquid AIO

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ASUS had one for the 3090

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Think Asrock made a 4090 liquid AIO

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 4:36 AM

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All is the opposite of hybrid

subtle flare Dec 14, 2022, 4:36 AM

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I just wish hybrids were 380mm and not 240

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Because it looks damn ugly in my midtower ATX case

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Card is beautiful

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Side panel isn't so hot

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 4:37 AM

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I want to see mini atx with external rad mount

hard quarry Dec 14, 2022, 7:32 AM

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Can someone tell me if this is a good or bad sound because I’m kind of worried

lucid harness Dec 14, 2022, 7:33 AM

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sounds like a fan issue?

hard quarry Dec 14, 2022, 7:34 AM

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Should I still run it with that noise cause it’s off and on

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It does it randomly

lucid harness Dec 14, 2022, 7:35 AM

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are you still under warranty? you could probably just get it replaced

hard quarry Dec 14, 2022, 8:03 AM

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Yea

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 3:16 PM

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Either could be a fan installed wrong, or its dying

hard quarry Dec 14, 2022, 5:39 PM

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Oh, I’m thinking it’s my power supply fan because it happens of and on and it sounds like it’s coming from like the lower part of the case

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I didn’t build this PC it was a pre-built

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I recently just pulled out my PSU dusted it off and everything. I noticed that some of my PSU cables that I’m not using or like touching the case to the power supply so maybe those is causing a little noise I’m not sure, so I just move the cables away from the power supply case I don’t know

#

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I’m thinking it might be the power supply so I might just replace it but I’m not really good with PC components. Is there a good power supply recommend?

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Probably the same wattage I got now

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Gotcha

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I don’t have a budget

#

Right now I’m doing research on this Corsair or 850 RMX

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Okay thx

wild gull Dec 14, 2022, 6:15 PM

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Corsair is pretty good

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Very high tier psus

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And gold should be the maximum u get

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 6:26 PM

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mid advice

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tier list knows all

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a tier plats go on sale frequently

wild gull Dec 14, 2022, 6:34 PM

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nah

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wasted money

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gamers nexus>

wild gull Dec 14, 2022, 7:19 PM

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most dont

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most stuff is chinese or taiwanese and then rebranded

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its not very likely that youre gonna pick up a low tier unit from corsair

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cos the ones youre gonna be looking at will be the rmx or rm ones

vast harness Dec 14, 2022, 11:56 PM

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https://www.cybenetics.com/

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cybenetics has some pretty great testing and ratings on PSUs

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according to efficiency and noise

bright shard Dec 14, 2022, 11:57 PM

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cybenetics is one of the best

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good testing

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means more than any arbitrary sanctioned testing.

mossy elk Dec 15, 2022, 6:25 AM

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yawwwn

wild gull Dec 15, 2022, 7:16 AM

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idk you gotta look REALLY hard to buy one of the shitty ones

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like look at actually maybe discontuined stuff etc

bright shard Dec 15, 2022, 7:17 AM

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pretty easy to buy a B tier tbh

wild gull Dec 15, 2022, 7:23 AM

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between taht and a or s, it probably does not make that much of a difference anyway

bright shard Dec 15, 2022, 7:24 AM

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the best powersupply is the one that doesn't catch fire

wild gull Dec 15, 2022, 7:24 AM

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yes, but one at b tier wont catch fire, even the worst ones shouldnt

bright shard Dec 15, 2022, 7:24 AM

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but i also dont trust ones without eff ratings

wild gull Dec 15, 2022, 7:25 AM

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unless you buy an amazon brand one or some shit

bright shard Dec 15, 2022, 7:25 AM

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amazon loves to peddle bullshit

#

seen some real bullshit

wild gull Dec 15, 2022, 7:25 AM

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its basically just glorified aliexpress

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if u want legit products, dont buy on amazon other than the brand stores on there

bright shard Dec 15, 2022, 7:26 AM

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worse than ebay in most regards, except for the return policy

wild gull Dec 15, 2022, 7:26 AM

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like i got my psu from amazon, but it was from the corsair brand store

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or things like akko etc

formal plume Dec 15, 2022, 7:34 AM

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bright shard amazon loves to peddle bullshit

this honestly

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it's borderline Wish.com

#

it's become a race of whoever can make the most bullshit statements

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"horn that honks at 600 decibels"

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"flash light that does 100,000 lumens"

wild gull Dec 15, 2022, 7:44 AM

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its how the amazon business model runs

bright shard Dec 15, 2022, 7:45 AM

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formal plume "horn that honks at 600 decibels"

I love the flashlight test channel ™️

bright shard Dec 15, 2022, 7:47 AM

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wild gull its how the amazon business model runs

Personally, im a fan of the MySpace business model

formal plume Dec 15, 2022, 8:41 AM

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bright shard I love the flashlight test channel ™️

PirateSimon

fleet canopy Dec 16, 2022, 10:42 PM

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Or you could alternatively pick the highest rated PSU of a specific wattage on PC part picker

formal plume Dec 17, 2022, 5:18 AM

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you got to get that $10 Gigabyte NewEgg PSU dude

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saves money and eventually your house will be VERY warm

edgy junco Dec 17, 2022, 5:35 AM

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belp

subtle flare Dec 19, 2022, 3:28 AM

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RIP XTX vram

bright shard Dec 19, 2022, 5:40 AM

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Fud2cents

astral mesa Dec 19, 2022, 1:13 PM

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would a(n): intel iris xe (the gpu), 16 gb ram and i5-1135g7 run GTFO?

bright shard Dec 19, 2022, 2:57 PM

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astral mesa would a(n): intel iris xe (the gpu), 16 gb ram and i5-1135g7 run GTFO?

Just on the merit of this sentence, my judgment is no.

formal plume Dec 19, 2022, 2:58 PM

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it can on low settings but it'll be low FPS

#

definitely want a dGPU for more smoother performance

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otherwise the rest of the spec is fine

bright shard Dec 19, 2022, 3:00 PM

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Yeah, but you are looking at 70% lows at 5fps

astral mesa Dec 19, 2022, 3:01 PM

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aight, then I guess I need to bring my pc to my new place ⚰️

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thanks for the answer

twilit crow Dec 19, 2022, 8:56 PM

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astral mesa would a(n): intel iris xe (the gpu), 16 gb ram and i5-1135g7 run GTFO?

It'll run the main menu 👍

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Your bottleneck is the GPU.

misty glacier Dec 22, 2022, 6:18 PM

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I'm relatively new to pc building and gaming I had a pre build but it had a radeon 480 very old gpu and i5 intel cpu so I sold it and putting it towards graphics card but the thing is that these graphics cards now are ridiculously expensive but I want to play with at least 120 fps almost consistently but also play raytracing maybe im asking for too much but I want to buy a card I'll be satisfied with and not have to replace in a year or two should I wait for price drop on rtx 4080 or 90 or wait for 4070 to come out and buy it the moment it comes out?

bright shard Dec 22, 2022, 6:32 PM

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misty glacier I'm relatively new to pc building and gaming I had a pre build but it had a rade...

looking at the estimates, you likely wont hit 120 fps (4k?) with a 4070

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while raytracing

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personally, i don't think the 4080 will drop more than 100 USD in the next year.

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with nvidia, in general you're paying more for raster and raytracing.

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even though AMD edges ever so slightly in cost/frame @ 4k

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at the cost of poor ray tracing (equivalent to 3090ti)

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personally, i think you're asking for too much.

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but unless you have a 4k 144hz monitor, you're barking up the wrong tree.

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most cards in the past few years will frame cap 1440p without raytracing

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in terms of watching flash sales on 4080s, even the 3000 series, they very rarely go on sale for reasonable prices, or reasonable discounts.

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imo, if you're going to buy a card that will last, if you must stay with nvidia, probably wait 2 months, if they dont go on sale by then, i wouldnt expect anything until october next year for discounts.
those are my final thoughts.
@misty glacier

misty glacier Dec 22, 2022, 6:41 PM

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bright shard imo, if you're going to buy a card that will last, if you must stay with nvidia,...

Thank you I figure I was asking for too much I was thinking about waiting for tax season anyway but from what I see amd 7900 xtx could be a really good choice

bright shard Dec 22, 2022, 6:41 PM

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7900xtx was my first choice, but i went with 7900xt because of availability, and the stock xtx being weird with power delivery.

misty glacier Dec 22, 2022, 6:49 PM

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How is the 7900 treating you?

fleet canopy Dec 22, 2022, 6:53 PM

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The best choice imo for raytracing and 1440p 144hz or good 4k gaming is a 3090/ti, those have dropped price nicely, but should see if it's comparable to the 7900 xtx in a good way for you since its about the same price (assuming you are using usd)

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In rasterization I probably wouldn't expect same perf but for raytracing the 3090 probably beats the 7900xtx good, but again check them for yourself and use reviews from people like Gamers nexus or similar

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I don't think amd has it for rt unless it's like the 3090 and I forgot

bright shard Dec 22, 2022, 6:57 PM

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misty glacier How is the 7900 treating you?

my 7900xt fits my needs, i dont care about raytracing. i have a aib cooler. hits 350 watts, but i needed a card, so my buying prerogatives are different.

misty glacier Dec 22, 2022, 6:58 PM

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Cool how many frames do you hit on the regular?

bright shard Dec 22, 2022, 7:00 PM

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misty glacier Cool how many frames do you hit on the regular?

i am waiting for displayport 2 monitors before i upgrade.
currently basically anything in my library has ran maxed at 1080p@75hz

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the only times my gpu was worried is when you get in a vehicle in crysis

fleet canopy Dec 22, 2022, 7:01 PM

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The 7900xt is basically enough for 1440p 144hz

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It could probably do 240hz alright, assuming they're not stuff like war zone

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He does want 120fps and raytracing so eh

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3090 is there if you can pay for 1000$ card

bright shard Dec 22, 2022, 7:03 PM

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he's either looking at a 4080 or 4090 tbh

fleet canopy Dec 22, 2022, 7:03 PM

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Yeah

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I'd probably skip 4080 cause that one is apparently a really dumb product that's simply too overpriced iirc

bright shard Dec 22, 2022, 7:04 PM

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both the 7900xt and 4080 are overpriced.

fleet canopy Dec 22, 2022, 7:04 PM

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Same for the XT, skip that and go straight for xtx instead

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100$ is no difference if you're already gonna spend on a 7900xt, just need to watch for all the available listings

bright shard Dec 22, 2022, 7:05 PM

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sure, but i feel like the xtx was just a draw to get people to buy the xt

fleet canopy Dec 22, 2022, 7:05 PM

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Nah the XT was

bright shard Dec 22, 2022, 7:06 PM

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thats where i disagree with most people/

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the xtx is simply not very available.

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you can see it as an upsell, but i dont think its correct.

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realistically, in a lot of the scenarios i've seen, you're really only lost about 20 fps between the xt and xtx. in the worst cases.

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bad value? maybe. but i wanted av1 encode.