pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

[zinc isle]

When it craches, it just show black screen. Yes i have to restart the pc

It randomly crash. For exemple, i just boot up the pc for the first time of the day and it crash or i just close a game and go on web just for a few minutes, it crash too

Yup

Oki thx, right now im just try to clean out some the dust to see if that help

It still look good

[zinc isle]

Welllll something is wrong with my first ram slot

[zinc isle]

I got a dead ram lot

What should i do buy a new mother board or try to get it fix somehow

[tender depot]

is it worth pirating windows 10 or should i buy a cheap key from somewhere

cuz i aint 100% sure if my bank card will let me buy stuff online by the time my pc is built

[winter ginkgo]

first of all

why are you already not on windows 10

[vast harness]

second of all

no piracy talk here

go ask on reddit or something

[subtle flare]

graphically speaking has an affiliate link in their yt description for a cheap windows 10/11 key

Try that

[tender depot]

i am. but when i build my pc im gonna have to buy somethin

and ive been told my gf will buy a key for me....... but thats if my bank is still dying

[tender depot]

i dont use that

nor do i like piracy

[tender depot]

ever just order good pc parts then like 5 hours later look back and see that the ram works better with intel cpus

makes me cry

but whatever... as long as it works i wont cry just yet

though it wont help with my insanity

[subtle flare]

Just file an RMA

I bought G.Skill trident for intel XMP and just filed an RMA and bought Trident Neo for Expo

[twilit crow]

I am currently running into the same issue on my Linux machine when playing GTFO.

It's intermittent, occasional freeze to black screen. I use an AMD Radeon 6700 XT Nitro & Ryzen 7.

Next time it happens, i'll post the logs.

[tender depot]

mhm ok

[fleet canopy]

you just have a watermark telling you to activate it

kinda a bit big and obtrusive

But it's fine

[twilit crow]

Possibly so, but I also often find that when 2 problems are put together they bring about additional ideas and similarities.

[twilit crow]

That's not needed, just stick with the watermark. Your question, should you pursue is also implicates security risks, don't bother.

[tender depot]

hm ok. well ill decide then ig

[twilit crow]

Absolutely 100% understand you there. I solve many of these myself, if however, what ever intel is left here helps resolves problems, that's a bonus. I'm down for looking into ideas if they even remotely relate just to see where the vine leads.

[tender depot]

yep yep. wont take long

[twilit crow]

I think in a literal sense for most people, you'd be absolutely right. However, in the more open sense cross-linking problems often breeds new ideas, this is something I personally enjoy pursuing.

[zinc isle]

I tried and it didnt work, it try to booted up a few time and nothing happened. Guess i have to go to a repair shop to look at it more. Worst case buy a new mother board 😐
Thx for your help❤️

[plush fox]

rtx raytracing when?

[bright shard]

phase 5 when they get the huge nvidia funding

[mossy cobalt]

We're having a weird bug in our game. One member is totally fine until a security door or screamer wave starts. As soon as that happens, the security holograms freeze, he can't see any of the new locations. The enemies spawn and start moving, but after a few of them spawn they all just freeze and stand in place. He also cannot die during this bug

[placid sentinel]

sounds like major desync, could u try a different host if not already? if the affected person is always the same, that person could investigate #known-issues (qos software, vpn)

[zinc isle]

Quick question if ur mother board support ram speed of 3200mhz and ur cpu only supports ram speed of 2666mhz

What happen i use ram speed of 3200mhz

Will it optimize for the pc to run for game and work ?

[dry hollow]

Those are only official numbers. Outside of that its labeled an over clock.
What CPU do you have? Some benefit from increased ram speed more than others

[zinc isle]

Currently im using i3 10100f which can only run 2666hmz

[dry hollow]

If you don't have a Z490 board you can't go beyond 2666mhz. The 3200mhz rating on the board is because 3200mhz is the rating intel gave for the higher end chips unfortunately so you're stuck with 2666mhz. If you plan on sticking with 10th gen but upgrade the cpu down the line you might want to consider buying a 3200mhz kit(it will run at 2666mhz for your current cpu but in the future it could be beneficial. Its also only a few buck for or the exact same price anyway

[bright shard]

at that timescale, i dont think its a worthy investment, ddr5 A dies are like 7000-8000mhz, there's nothing tangible for him to take the DDR4 on to.

[dry hollow]

except ddr5 costs quite a bit and they still have the rest of 10th gen, 11th gen, 12th gen, 13th gen, or AM4

I'd also argue that a 3200mhz kit will have better resell value than a 2666mhz kit as well so I'd call it a worthwhile investment either way

[zinc isle]

That's true, i was planning to get a kit of 3200mhz later on when i first buit the pc but there is too much happening right now that i can't invest anything

[abstract kite]

yo since this is tech talk

im having troubles with my audio when OBS is open

it pops a bunch

from just being open

[bright shard]

sounds like a buffer issue

[abstract kite]

yeah i dont really know what that means

it only happens when obs is open

[bright shard]

what OBS version

[abstract kite]

its the latest virsion

version

[bright shard]

couldn't find much, try changing sample rates for your audio devices/in OBS

[abstract kite]

alright

[tacit edge]

Would anybody recommend a upgraded ram stick and storage for the acer nitro 5?

[formal plume]

depends on which Nitro 5 model you have

[zinc isle]

i currently have
h410m d2v
i3 10100f
a ram kit 8gb/2666mhz
gtx 1660ti

is it a good idea for me to invest into
B560M AORUS PRO (rev. 1.x)
a Corsair Vengeance LPX 8G/3600 Black Heat Spreader kit or DDR4 Kingston 8G/3200 Fury Beast kit

[fleet canopy]

AMD's is gonna announce their new graphics cards here in a few minutes if any are interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhwd6UgGVk4

[weak kernel]

look the writings

plz help me, idk if it's the game or just my game

the writings are bugged

plz

[deep dirge]

what

[abstract kite]

that looks normal to me

[lone summit]

skill issue

[abstract kite]

i think

[abstract kite]

he means the transparent duplicate text effect

[deep dirge]

oh

icic

[weak kernel]

yep !

that is the problem but too bad english x)

[abstract kite]

np 😅

[deep dirge]

yeah, it's meant to be there

[abstract kite]

that looks fine if it bothers you then oh well

[weak kernel]

someone can help me ? ^^

or maybe it's normal ? @abstract kite

[abstract kite]

yeah that's always been there

is this your first time playin?

[weak kernel]

ye

no modification weapon system ?

[fleet canopy]

They have pretty nice specs for their cards

The new features also seem promising too

The cards are a nice size, not like the 4090 beefy ass weights

[vast harness]

that ppw doe

[fleet canopy]

yeah 50% more

really nice

They're really trying to promote amd adrenaline software though

Unless it offers nice and easy OC features, and at least offers something more than just a game launcher

which is still not enough for me to get it anyway lol

AMD Hyper RX looks good

Basically more fps and lower latency, really nice

999$ for xtx and 899$ for xt

still staying at 999$ unlike 1500/1600$ at least

Now to see whatever their lower end is like, hopefully nice too

[woeful spire]

I have a small issue

I had a 3060 for a long time sitting in my home to replace my 1660 super. I didn't really bother to change it because... It's not a massive performance boost and I was too busy.

I finally did it a couple days ago. It seems okay after a driver update but it still seems to stutter a fair bit. My previous card never did this.

I haven't done a whole lot of troubleshooting since I haven't had a whole lot of time and it seems to come and go, but does anyone know what might be happening?

[bright shard]

what does your individual cpu core look like when gaming

[woeful spire]

I'll test it out and send you some results

[stark rain]

I've heard about driver issues with the last few geforce driver updates

[woeful spire]

Funny enough I find it stutters and lags more outside of actual gaming

Like literally on my desktop it'll just happen for a few seconds

[woeful spire]

I'm more inclined to think it's a driver issue personally

[stark rain]

Oh that could be hardware acceleration, windows has a setting for it and several applications have options to enable it. Could try disabling it where you can

The windows settings for it gave me a bunch of problems like gpu utiliziation randomly jumping to 80-95% outside of gaming

[woeful spire]

Hm...

I'll try a couple things and come back

[stark rain]

The windows setting on my windows 10 computer is settings > gaming > graphic settings > Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling, that should be off cause windows didn't do anything with it so applications don't support it

[bright shard]

basic stuff but, check your monitor/windows refresh rate.

just covering the bases.

[woeful spire]

Alright so I just fucked around a bit

Seems like it was just my drivers

I just cleaned out GeForce Experience and reinstalled

[formal plume]

did you reinstall the drivers or just GeForce Experience itself?

cause those are different things

[zinc isle]

Should i remove the nvme heatsink even i dont have a nvme ssd to install ?

[bright shard]

From the mobo? Leave it.

Or youll probably lose it.

[mystic cliff]

hey anyone here ?

im quite new to discord

but i have tech question

[bright shard]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[mystic cliff]

i have a acer predator helios 300 PH317-56-70XJ but for a life of me cant find a way to turn on Gsync or advance optimus in the laptop but in the advertise it have

i do basically everything update everything nvidia driver intel driver gforce exp

[bright shard]

are you using hdmi?

[mystic cliff]

turn on the gpu discrete didnt show up

no

i using build in monitor

cuz the tag said FHD 144hz 3ms and nvdia g-sync

on the monitor

[bright shard]

did you try looking in the nvidia settings game profile?

[mystic cliff]

yeah

also if the gsync is capable does it mean HDR also available ?

[bright shard]

which acer helios did you buy

oh, 300...

[mystic cliff]

acer predator helios 300 PH317-56-70XJ

17inch

and think the only 1 17inch 2022 version

hint ph317-"56"

and i try custormer support they like

bail

live support said nvidia fault to forget turn on in motherboard (i dont believe it cuz if that turn off then how hole system can still work and that specific feature is off)
then i go to nvidia said their manufacture got specific way to turn that on they dont know how to turn that on cuz they are not acer

[bright shard]

did you try this?
https://www.microcenter.com/tech_center/article/10907/how-to-enable-nvidia-g-sync

[mystic cliff]

yeah but the gsync option isnt there

[bright shard]

do you have this tab?
https://dl.razerzone.com/src/5388/5388-1-en-v3.png

@mystic cliff

[mystic cliff]

nope

[bright shard]

hmmmmmmm

[mystic cliff]

kinda wish it have

even non advance optimus i should get that tab

this all i got

[bright shard]

can you show me Display adapters in Device Manager

[mystic cliff]

i got intel iris XE but i use GPU discrete now

[bright shard]

last idea i have is change your refresh rate to something lower to see if the setting will show up

barring that, i think they lied.

[mystic cliff]

i did change to 60 before but none show up

[bright shard]

what continent are you?

[mystic cliff]

asia

but i buy this in america and carry to asia

[bright shard]

hmmm, oh well, its still a decent laptop monitor, g-sync shouldnt matter that much, probably still fine with v-sync

[mystic cliff]

yeah

[mossy elk]

dang! the new AMD gpu sounds promising. I'm running an Nvidia rig now and wanted to have my second set-up be AMD.

[formal plume]

AMD sure it's not as much raw power as Nvidia but maybe people can actually buy them

[subtle flare]

It’s only a gaming gpu and not a workload gpu

Would’ve been more impressive if they’d compare it to nvidia at least

[bright shard]

im still going to try to hardscope buying

[subtle flare]

But nonetheless still impressive

[formal plume]

true
definitely when Intel Arc is falling apart

[bright shard]

falling apart

[stark rain]

Still have hope intel will eventually compete on low end GPUs. AMD is only considered good value because of how bad Nividia pricing is. There’s still room for margins but Intel needs time for a competitive product

[fleet canopy]

We only know about the 6900 XTX and XT so far

They may offer good prices for low end too

[formal plume]

can't fall apart when it was never together in the first place

[mystic cliff]

i kinda feel intel focus for esport games

but still graphic card are mend to play all game as fast as possible

[formal plume]

if you think AMD has driver issues
oh boy Intel drivers are even worse lmao

but yeah Arc is still good for low end hardware

[fleet canopy]

yeah

But to be fair if you have money to spend, AMD should be doing better price to performance and performance per watt I would assume

idk about their CPUs cause they pretty much had em be a 95c workhorse

[formal plume]

don't act like Intel isn't cranking watts and heat too

actually that seems to be the trend

for every company except ARM

[keen aspen]

Hey

Me again

Nightmare computer is at it again

When I open games, the screen freezes. I can still hear the game happening and I can interact with stuff but the screen is frozen and the only way to fix it is by shutting it off with the power button

Alt tabbing makes the screen work for half a second then it freezes again

Some times not even that works

I update computer, checked graphics drivers, I took the monitor off and put it back on (the detachable screen has been the cause of a number of issues on this laptop) and nothing works

[bright shard]

Are you the guy that was freezing in gmod?

[keen aspen]

and the guy with the funky graphics card and the detachable laptop screen

[bright shard]

Sell it to an exorcist

This shit haunted bro

[keen aspen]

ikr

[unreal plank]

AHHHHHHHH

FUCKING SHIT!!!!

Console just stopped working after more then hour of suffering!

[peak halo]

Guys help, my game runs perfectly dmoothly zt more thzn 60 fps but there a short freezes every few seconds, is there a solution top fix that or is my card a tad bit too overclocked ?

It also freezes sometimes when I git a new surface like it need to be used to it before going back to being smooth, freezes for a littlebit when a door open etc

[stark rain]

Kinda weird if an overclock does that, usually works or doesn’t and very small grey zone with overclocks. How much ram and VRAM you have? Can you further lower settings to fix it?

[peak halo]

tried lowring the settings and turned off overclock

gonna try steam repar

repair

it kept stuttering it's weird

rest of the time it's butter sdmot

smooth

but it stutter when she begins to tzlk

it stutters when i hit something and there's sparks

i mean I could share my screen and show you

[formal plume]

how much RAM do you have?

[dry hollow]

Sounds like a lag spike or your frame time is spiking

Should probably share how much ram you have, your CPU and your graphics card

[formal plume]

they died

[fleet canopy]

Apparently someone did the math for the 7900 XTX's shitty benchmark, and AMD's site has the fps shown for the 7900XTX, that it's challenging the 4090 pretty well, and it has good ray tracing equal or about the perf of a 3090

[bright shard]

Benches i see pit it between 4090 and 4080

[twilit crow]

Likely your C# runtimes. Uninstall, run Bleachbit/Ccleaner, restart, reinstall.

[keen aspen]

I changed to windowed mode and it works normally

[abstract kite]

well when your competitors Graphics card is known to fry power supplies it isn't Too tough to keep on par

💀

[leaden pecan]

Hey guys, currently gaming on a laptop but would like to build my own pc soon but I have no idea what might be compatible with what else. Anyone know of a website or something that could help me build a pc? Thank you guys in advance

[bright shard]

pcpartpicker

[leaden pecan]

Wow what an obvious name lol

[bright shard]

things to check are, ram type, socket types, cooler clearances, number of connectors on power supply and graphics card. total wattage required of PSU for all parts.

minor things to check are if ram is on the QVL list of a motherboard.

and if whatever cooler you get, fits the cpu socket type.

@leaden pecan just stuff off the top of my head.

[leaden pecan]

oh boy I'll have to copy and paste that in my notes so I don't forget lol, thank you

[dry hollow]

Pcpartpicker takes care of most of that already

[bright shard]

Yes, but caveat. Ive had beginners hand me an invalid list.

[formal plume]

^^^ It'll say "invalid build" and when it's pointed out they'd either say "oh I didn't notice that" or "whats invalid mean?"

[bright shard]

aside from the edge case incompatibilities, for example, am4 coolers being am5 compatable, but only if they dont use a special backplate.

or stopping a beginner from using metal pastes.

[twilit crow]

Also decide what storage you want to use and why. HDD/SSD/NvME? What are you going to store and where? OS on NvME, games on HDD/SSD etc. NvMEs make a huge performance difference both as workstations and gaming, naturally you'd need a motherboard with an M.2 if that's the route you decide to take.

[fleet canopy]

I don't think M.2 is still faster but tbf i don't know if they actually have better support to use m.2 pcie 4

Or was it 5

idek

[bright shard]

m.2 vs sata is uhh, mountainous.
pcie4 vs 5 m.2 is also a lot but not significant

[subtle flare]

PCIE 5.0 is pretty significant vs 4.0

Just nothing has been released besides one prototype

[bright shard]

im talking loading speed

windows or otherwise.

without directstorage

[twilit crow]

Having used all three at different specifications, i've observed the following:
HDD > LT:SSD provided a substantial quality of life improvement, improving overall speeds by an approximation factor of 15 and allowed for better server hosting.
LT:SSD > HT:SSD provided a minor improvement to speeds but overall negligible. Loading times were mildly faster on games.
HT:SSD to LT:NvME: Provided significant all-round improvements, further improving overall responsiveness. Loading times were further reduced and was a substantial improvement to overall performance.
LT:NvME to HT:NvME: Overall all-round improvements however, improvements were not as noticeable as Lower-Tier NvMEs already provided a speed boost beyond most noticeable thresholds.

The faster the storage drive, the better overall quality of life for the user. However, there is a threshold of where the difference becomes less noticeable. So it's not essential to get top-tier kit, but rather just enough for what you plan to use it for.

[bright shard]

tldr; with SSD you hit the SATA cap
anything past 3000 starts into diminishing returns. for now.

[fleet canopy]

Weird question and I genuinely cannot remember asking but would there be some improvement for certain games if I decided to just go from a 3200Mhz cas16 kit to something like a 4000mhz cl16/18 kit?

Asking cause someone said they had a game get much less stuttering and freezing when switching to that

[merry bay]

it's not just a RAM question, CPU matters a lot in this case

[fleet canopy]

Well in this instance it's a 3600 if I recall

Or it could be a 5600

[bright shard]

probably not by much, stuttering in modern games is down to shader compilation.

i still use ddr3 and rarely get stutters. faster ram in theory improves your 1% lows, but more ram does even better.

if you're using less than 16gb, you

are shooting yourself in the foot.

stutters due to ram is also probably largely platform dependent

stuttering is a wildly complex topic

[dry hollow]

You won't get a memory kit to run stable on an am4 CPU at 4000mhz unless you're lucky.
If you really feel like upgrading a 3600mhz kit will be your best bet for compatibility

I should clarify, only do that with a 5600. A 3600 is perfectly fine at 3200mhz

[formal plume]

who tf spends money just to get an extra 400mhz on RAM

hopefully theres extra GB thrown in

[merry bay]

it's cheaper than upping a GPU tier, and if you're close to a 1% low milestone like 90 or 120fps on your main game it can mean a lot

[formal plume]

why not make it at least 800mhz then

[vocal lion]

It is not worth it for such a small upgrade

[fleet canopy]

If I was going to, it would be an extra 800mhz

But I only asked because it's kind of weird that an online game that stutters a shit ton and have 3 second frozen lag can be improved by just some random upgrade to the ram

[twilit crow]

I personally would seek to improve my RAM timings for anything over 3000mhz. If that didn't work then i'd look at some upgrades. I think anything over 3600mhz isn't worth it.

[cosmic solar]

I got a prebuild pc for a gift on christmas back in 2015 and i only upgraded graphic card that was 2gb to gtx1060 6gb, the pc also has intel i3 6th gen and some very small motherboard

am thinking abt addind a ryzen 5 1600af and b450 steel legend motherboard

[stone ermine]

got more ram for my pc

i have been told its too much, or that i needed it lol

[bright shard]

I vote to upgrade case+psu as well. Unless both of those things are very good.

[cosmic solar]

oh yeah defintely will

[formal plume]

do not cheap out on the PSU it can kill every part of the PC if it can

[cosmic solar]

rn i have 600psu i think

[cosmic solar]

alright

[bright shard]

Everyone's a critic

[stone ermine]

this is fair, my pc is running of 16gb so i bought 64gb of ram corrsair vengeance pro

[bright shard]

I definitely dont need 32gb, but my next build has it.

Ramdisks are fun tho

[fringe mirage]

ramdisks go brrr

[formal plume]

yeah 64GB is usually the top limit of what any person would need

unless they do something really specific or server stuff

[fleet canopy]

For gaming 64gb is def overkill

[bright shard]

instant load times for ||modding|| gtfo

[fleet canopy]

I think the only reason people would get it as far as I can remember is either minecraft modding or very specific few games

[formal plume]

makes me wonder how much RAM GTFO can use

I know 16GB is reccomended

[fleet canopy]

I think if it's 16GB, generally I'd expect about 8GB usage

[bright shard]

you could do size on disk + size of ram during game play

so, 13+8 and some change

provided you put the game on ramdisk

i wonder if it would improve 1% lows though

[formal plume]

so 32GB of RAM for GTFO is not unreasonable at all

[bright shard]

honestly, how long would it take for gtfo to load into ram at 5000MB/s

30 seconds?

[bright shard]

i dont exactly know what i should be looking for

[merry bay]

i don't think he wants help, merely surprised at the process count and felt like sharing?

if he felt like sharing i'd assume it seemed high to them, but that's a perfectly normal count

i love to have a personalized mess and never turn anything off, so mine's nowhere close

yep. I always lurk, recall the incident

the internet.

[abstract kite]

number of windows processes (49) i just posted it because, well idk. i turned all that crap off and now services went from 100 to 50, performance is much better, idk why there is so many people having lots and lots of trash running and syping on them in their taskmanager

[bright shard]

blame microsoft

[twilit crow]

You're only running 49 processes, hats off to you lad!

[twilit crow]

Thought so. Fair play lad. One of the many banes of Windows is the crapware that comes with it. Windows 10 or 11?

[abstract kite]

Windows 10 here, yep i hate the crapware, feels good to get rid of it. Don't really like win11, it's like a mobile operating system, wah... will keep win10 untill end of support.

[bright shard]

part of the reason i dual boot

[twilit crow]

A lot of people I work with detest Windows 11 too. Citing lack of stability, unnecessary and overly bloated with rubbish. Windows 10 is what most are sticking too.

Can always switch to Linux if you're happy trying something new. Personal seal of approval, getting it up and running can be done efficiently within an hour.

[abstract kite]

100% agree. I test win11 as a virtual machine and delete it after 15 minutes. What i found really disturbing is that if you rightklick the menu has less options and you must klick again just to get the options back that you normally had with one instead of two klicks in windows 10, this alone gave me enough reason to worry about microsofts mental health, won't be touching w11 anytime soon. Im interested in linux but haven't found the "perfect" distro yet. ubuntu has telemtry, mint seems nice, idk.

thats why you can make it stop by yourself, its actually easy. not care about bloatware in this case is same as not care about your privacy, the bloatware spys on you, check shutup10 software or https://privacy.sexy

[vast harness]

privacy
microsoft software
pick one

[fleet canopy]

Privacy is sexy

I'm too public

[formal plume]

honestly use Linux

if you're so concerned about privacy

for the love of godddd

[formal plume]

you do know you have to remove Cortana fully in order to have some resemblance of privacy

not just "well I just toggled her off in settings" 💀

okay thank fuck

I don't think |Unknown| knows about NTLite lmao

I actually miss XP
ah Win7 felt like the last time effort was made not looking at you Win8.1

we all live in the inbreed brothers of Windows 8 😩 😂

[cedar coyote]

Here a pc build tip, use cardboard as a case. So beneficially and can mount anything anywhere aswell as always mount your psu sideways.

[pliant osprey]

i honestly don't know why i don't see this more often

[cedar coyote]

Thank you

[twilit crow]

You can also use https://www.nextdns.io
As an internet firewall of sorts that will block telemetry. Running debloat scripts will stop the OS from screaming and the firewall will make any screams unheard. Good little combo.

Aside from that. Arch is quickly becoming my favourite. Takes a while to get used to but I like how easy it is to maintain. I opt for rolling distros due to the obscene amount of errors I attract on non-rolling operating systems (Windows included) as I find I am reinstalling every 3 months.

[fleet canopy]

Wasn't that the same for the last 50000 nvidia cards?

[twilit crow]

It's less work than you think.

[vast harness]

imo is the same shitty experience, just different colors

[abstract kite]

dont have to pick, with a few tools you get both.

[vast harness]

🗿

I mean, I use a relatively stripped down windows build

but I still would prefer a Linux distro if I wanted to go for privacy

[abstract kite]

people who press the "disable button" instead of actually deleting the source aren't the that bright...

[vast harness]

I do want to go for privacy (I have privacy schizophrenia), but my current computer shits the bed when you install Linux on it

[abstract kite]

I heared about NTline but don't need it for now since i alread modified the os, i'm not sure if nextdns is trustworthy, i checked it sometime ago and decided not to use it.

[abstract kite]

well, anyone who doesn't have "privacy schizophrenia" in 2022 lives in a different reality. people can't understand the scale of tracking and spying, eventually we will end up like china anyways. i said before you can have both windows and privacy, it's actually simple if you know how, you don't need to do much, people did the work for you and you can simply use their work. a few tools and scripts will do everything for you. https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 + https://privacy.sexy/ + https://www.henrypp.org/product/simplewall + https://safing.io/portmaster/ and as browser delete chrome and switch to https://librewolf.net/

oh and... delete discord, better to use it in a browser, if you install it, it monitors what programs you have and use on your pc, the browser cant do that.

well yes thats true

[abstract kite]

simplewall and portmaster are way better than nextdns

[vast harness]

based librewolf user

[twilit crow]

I'll look into those for my computer as I am massively lacking there. My phone however runs GrapheneOS, ProtonVPN and NextDNS. I think I am fine there in that department.

In terms of Android Discord. Android has disabled apps from using the QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES command so Discord can't see what is installed on the device. It also cannot see the IMEI and other unique identifiers so no worries there, so long as the user is running Android 12 or above.

In terms of web browsers, think I'll stick with TOR. Can't go wrong. I will definitely check out the other bits and pieces you mentioned though 👍

[formal plume]

privacy
ProtonVPN
:kekw:

[formal plume]

while this is really cool
I'd still just use a Linux distro for privacy

not sure why you're sucking on Window's schlong so intensely

[merry bay]

problem with that is browser discord hotkeys either don't work or become extremely unreliable, settings reset regularly and i'm sure there'd be more inconveniences if I sticked with it longer

[vast harness]

discord just sucks in general

I use a custom client just so I can eventually get banned faster lol

[formal plume]

Bettercord coughs

[merry bay]

it's the best we got for such apps tho.
speaking of apps, discord on android is objectively a dumpster fire. people blame their phones when it's actually the app for once

[twilit crow]

ProtonVPN is ideal for privacy, not anonymity. For that I'd use TorGuard. Unfortunately, a lot of shit I need(including bandwidth) is blocked on TOR.

What's so bad about ProtonVPN?

[twilit crow]

Finally had the time to look into this. I like what I see. GG ❤️

[formal plume]

oh yeah mobile discord is ass
and it's video player doesn't work

[abstract kite]

hm well, i dont use hotkeys i dont need them. havent noticed any settings going rogue so far. someone sent me this https://github.com/SpacingBat3/WebCord but i haven't tried it yet.

[abstract kite]

I'm also using protonvpn, i think they offer a great service and support, my hopes are they are legit, however... i'm not sure about that. It could be a honeypott. See https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IeXaYR4ed9c and https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QCx_G_R0UmQ

[upper dove]

Does anyone have a good, free editor to recommend?

[twilit crow]

For documents? You could try OnlyOffice

[upper dove]

for videos

[formal plume]

ShotCut is good to but it's hard to use

[vast harness]

mumble is probably better or something for the pure voice chat functionality

too bad it lacks the userbase

you would also be surprised how much shitcode discord has

there is potential for making stuff miles better than what discord offers

just no meaningful demand for it

[merry bay]

i swapped to discord because skype got way too bloated and basic functionality was falling apart

text probably more important than voice, but having both work good is a plus

I mean discord has already skirted the line a couple times with losing user trust, and it's unclear how long they can maintain with all these new features and growth.

I'm sure people would be willing to swap apps again if the fluff gets too on the nose

mumble/teamspeak/raidcall etc. didn't take off because people needed to self host and couldn't just do direct stuff via friendlist. Hosting a server had its own barrier of entry most people aren't willing to overcome imo

[dry hollow]

I don't know why you'd be worried about a VPN being a honeypot regardless unless you're into illegal activity you aren't the intended target.
The only "proof" I've seen of proton being a honeypot anyway was because they cooperate with law enforcement when given a warrant. Which they have to do by law so I don't understand what the problem is.

[merry bay]

When people are promised "privacy" only to let it go when the law asks for it, you can probably see how that ends up being just a half-truth.

[formal plume]

surely I can trust a completely different person / company with all my data

[dry hollow]

If proton disobeyed the law they would have been charged for disobeying a search warrant and the service would inevitability be shut down

[twilit crow]

Exactly. All one is doing using VPNs is re-placing trust. One key problem is that while most VPNs don't log. There's nothing to say anything about the server providers. Either way, any device that is connected to on the internet will log at least an IP address and a timestamp. The IP of which can be reverse look up'd to reveal your approximate location.

Not to mention time-based data analysis.

[formal plume]

R7D1 is really bad for FPS

[bright shard]

They changed the lighting engine a few rundowns ago

What card do you have

There were additional settings added that you can lower

Aside from that, i dont see drops below 30 on a gtx 970

Very generally, my 99% average is above 60.

If youre playing above 1080p youre gonna have a bad time with that card

Some of the levels have pretty bad performance

[fleet canopy]

I think you're gonna have a bad time period for a lot of games if you go above 1080p

Least in my experience with half the vram count

[bright shard]

what processor do you have?

[subtle flare]

I struggle with frames w/ my 1060

I've seen my 1% low at 2 fps before

on R7D2

[fleet canopy]

Well damn

[formal plume]

what CPUs you guys also running

[fleet canopy]

2070 Super, 3700x, and 32GB of ddr4 3200mhz

I will eventually upgrade like 90% of my pc though

Not interested in the ryzen 7000 stuff since I don't really think it's worth the price nor the hassle when I can just get a 5800x3d

[subtle flare]

runnin an i7-8750H

[bright shard]

I7 3770k, gtx 970. Upgrading everything when 7900xt/x

Then handmedown the pc ive got

[formal plume]

I'm confused cause I'm running a laptop with an i5-8300H, 16GB of RAM, and a GTX 1050
and the only level where my FPS drops hard, is R7D1, and even then it's like 20FPS
granted I wasn't host

[fleet canopy]

Maybe that's just something affecting everyone?

I feel like while they do optimize game in certain things, they just don't exactly do optimization well enough

Though tbf with specs like yours maybe it's lacking for the cpu and gpu probably

[vast harness]

What would you guys say is better?
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-x570-pro-wi-fi/
or
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B550-VC/Overview

[fleet canopy]

I think both are pretty much same thing

Either wifi or not would be the thing here at this point and price

[subtle flare]

I don’t know, I have it far worse with my frames stuttering every single time I turn so I can’t shoot and aim

[formal plume]

I think my 16GB is carrying me hard then

or idk maybe it's Intel

[subtle flare]

I have 32 gb of Corsair Vengeance sodimm

[formal plume]

by any chance you know what thermal paste is

[subtle flare]

yea

I didn't use thermal paste in my newest build lol

I just find it too messy at this point

[vast harness]

think I'll end up going for the MSI one

has 4 PCIe x16 slots

[fleet canopy]

Not really important

Unless you have 4 graphics cards, (I would assume) you aren't gonna use more than one thing that requires an x16 pcie slot (the only one thing most people use the x16 is to put in their graphics card and that's it)

If you are going to get stuff like a pcie wifi card those are usually like pcie x1 or x4 I forgor

But that's about it

I would go for the wifi one

[merry bay]

good luck fitting more than one 3.4slot GPU

and even those don't hit the bandwidth limit

for PCIe 3.0

[fleet canopy]

idk when it will be a thing when the top of the line graphics card requires a pcie x32

But probably not for a good 5-10 years maybe

But hey, it might as well come in a couple years

[merry bay]

unlikely to happen, next PCIe generation will take hold when necessary

PCIe 5 not too far already

irrelevant for the x16 slot, but pretty nice to have for storage options

[fleet canopy]

I remember something about the 3090 or the 2080 ti almost taking up all the pcie x16 bandwidth thing

But honestly I really don't know

[merry bay]

Theoretically they were right on the edge of PCIe 3.0, but now with the 4090 it's still not hit in practice.
Perhaps one could make synthetic test to hit it, but in the real world not a concern

PCIe 4.0 doubles that capability

[fleet canopy]

Oh okay I see

[bright shard]

I want my pc to last 10ish years, so pcie5x16 for me

[merry bay]

PCIe 4x16 already seems pretty overkill for GPU's
PCIe 5 might be nice for small form factor builds I guess, smaller mobo, only give x8 lanes and keep the other 8 for fast storage

the mobo still has an x16 slot ofc, but you'd adjust it in the bios to make better use of PCIe 5

[formal plume]

10 years and no MOBO upgrade? oh dear

[fleet canopy]

Well

10 years and absolutely no changes to the PC at all is the message I get from what clay said

Along with what would be almost no issues per year and still perform good at their targeted resolution and refresh rate

[formal plume]

unironically future proofing the PC...

[fleet canopy]

Yeah that's pretty much what I would understand as a pc lasting about 10 years

[merry bay]

if AM5 is anything like AM4, not too far fetched to slap in a CPU upgrade down the line

[fleet canopy]

Perhaps it will have nice longevity

But those board prices are iffy and then it being a 90c cpu out of box

Then considering RAM prices

[bright shard]

Not necessarily future proofing, moreso, use it til it fucking dies hard.

A lot of the pcs in the house are handed down to cut costs

Current office pc is a prebuilt from 2008 running mint

[bright shard]

Mobo and psu i dont swap, anything easily repaired or replaced is fair game.

Why struggle along with a 7900xt when the 69420 ti fe is only 150$ refurbished

[keen aspen]

hey fucky wucky laptop guy here again, it's either one hell of a coincidence, or gmod is disconnecting my graphics card from my computer. i load in, then i hear the usb noise and my graphics card has been obliterated from existence

and gmod freezes. it alredy doesnt work unless its in windowed mode (i can't figure out how to make it windowed fullscreen) andit just doesnt work

[bright shard]

part of me wants to install linux on your laptop to create the ultimate cursed item.

[merry bay]

ShiftWindow or BorderlessGaming ||https://github.com/Codeusa/Borderless-Gaming/releases||
are nice for resizing and moving windowed mode apps to be like windowed fulllsceen

ShiftWindow is older, works in less cases but has a lot more manual control for different uses

[boreal tundra]

What monitor would you guys recommend for like 300?

[fleet canopy]

Depends on what you want, resolution and refresh rate

[boreal tundra]

Yes like 144+

[bright shard]

Ips panel, stalk r/buildapcsales . Dell has sales on website.

[formal plume]

mfw blackfriday was last week

[bright shard]

black friday is a scam

[boreal tundra]

Technically it is they sale stuff that hasn't sold

Still buying stuff

[keen aspen]

ok now deep rock galactic is uninstalled in steam even though i never uninstalled it. it is installed, because i can find it in my files, steam just wont recognize it

[merry bay]

even if you try to download it inside the old path?

[keen aspen]

what

same thing is happening with terraria

installed but steam still says i need to install it

[merry bay]

i mean download into the place where you know the files are

and it should start checking what it has and what's missing from the newest version

[formal plume]

^^^

Steam always checks the location if a download was already in progress
so it sees what existing files there are
and if it's fully there, it just makes a path and recognizes the game

[fresh wave]

Is this a place I can ask for general rig upgrade advice?

Looking to join the NEW AGE of gaming, my rig is gettin ol.

[fresh wave]

Fair enough, thanks!

[lone summit]

No :D

[lone summit]

Ok master :(

[formal plume]

AMD is actually an option now

RTX 4000 series is a joke

Intel.. is strange but it hogs so much power

[tidal pawn]

Welp my 3080ti just sparked....

[vast harness]

If only AMD cards could be used for something other than gaming I would be sold

[bright shard]

blender RT support is soon

[subtle flare]

still performance king, so I wouldn’t necessarily call it a joke

4080 is definitely a joke though in terms of price point for performance

Then the 4070 Ti… a rebrand of the 12 gb 4080 unlaunch

If the 4080 16 gb had a better price it would’ve been a hell lot better

Cause I’m pretty sure RT still beats the XTX

AMD is a choice for gamers, that’s for sure

Definitely no competition still in the workspace market

If AMD actually had support for places such as OpenGL and other things, it would be great

Nvidia also needs to relook at their prices

This duopoly market has kinks on both sides

[vast harness]

Honestly, new gen Nvidia isn't worth in general

just stick to ampere

[subtle flare]

it is

performance wise it sure is

if you don't have a kidney plus a leg to sell then yea it is def not worth

not only do you get roughly 2x the performance in games, but you get 2x the performance in workload applications w/ no competition whatsoever

[vast harness]

eh, I would argue ampere will still hold just fine

at least until next gen comes

they really need to aim for ppw improvements to start talking about value

[bright shard]

if i can run whatever diffusion/blender with RT, i'll be happy with rdna3, but if i cant, whatever. im mainly only buying for games.

im almost glad it has drawbacks

because i might be able to BUY one.

[subtle flare]

Ampere holds fine yea, it’s just the performance you’re getting for the 40xx series. It’ll still be able to do lots of things of course, Ada just provides more performance

[subtle flare]

It can’t

AMD never had support for OpenGL nor anything related in terms of workload applications

Price is great though

Both card series have their drawbacks and their fighting points

If you’re looking for affordable, respectable performance XTX provides just that for gaming

It will lack in RT and memory speeds but provide DP 2.1 and lower power draws

I’d say performance is roughly in the range of competing w/ the 4080

4090 provides better RT and performance at the cost of selling your organs and drawing hell of a lot of power

As well as workload + gaming applications

“Moore’s Law isn’t dead” lmao

Both new generations of GPUs say otherwise

If our computing chips are still going to be silicon-based that will become true, but it’s certainly not now

[bright shard]

I know, i was more referring to future tense, amd is starting to invest more in software support.

[dry hollow]

AMD has been improving openGL performance

[subtle flare]

it's still very inadequate

like, extremely

6600 was already pretty bad benchmarks in workspace applications and XTX and XT are gonna be no different

Especially with no support in other areas since it's a "gaming-oriented" gpu

[subtle flare]

they should

Yea I agree

But I don't think they can

nvidia kinda took all that sector already

[dry hollow]

That is very true. At one point I was duel booting with Linux because the open source drivers are extremely good with opengl

[bright shard]

Mmmmmmmm..... there is still market segmentation within the sector to be leveraged. I dont think they should or could be the best, but a base level of function would be huge

[subtle flare]

I feel like AMD has already lost too many grounds for anything

Benchmarks aren’t great period because most don’t exist

They’re also behind in their RT generation

Not good performance-wise for workspace and if lets say the XTX had workspace support it would fail miserably under nvidia’s dominance in that sector

If AMD could get margins within 30xx series card in workspace then maybe they have some fighting chance

But their 6900 XT falls miserably short against 30xx cards in very select workspace application benchmarks (since AMD doesn’t support almost anything at all)

[formal plume]

yeah it's becoming a lot more of a "rich persons product"
not even just the card itself, there's also the cost of just powering it

[subtle flare]

Just buy a 30xx series card if you want both workspace + gaming

Otherwise AMD XTX is great for just gaming; definitely rivals the dumb 4080 price point

30xx is cheaper than XTX

[twilit crow]

AMD will catch up. Nvidia have been on the market for years, give time for them to catch up, and they will.

[vocal lion]

I mean, AMD has been on the market for almost as long, but I agree they changed a lot of stuff fairly recently

So I second the 'let them catch up' part

[hollow cloak]

it is gonna be the same case as with the CPU's, AMD starts weak but then gets to a point it is on par or even overtakes in some attributes

plus, Nvidia went a bit too far with the 4080, like who the hell needs a GPU of those sizes and power? that thing takes as much power alone as a electric water heater

[subtle flare]

And then gets shot down by Intel...

13th gen has better performance than AM5

They've also been struggling recently with selling AM5, I should've waited for this week to land my hands on a 7950x because it's right now only $550 w/o tax

I paid $550 + tax for my 7900x

[hollow cloak]

lowkey it would all be better if the companies instead of fighting would work together to create even better things but obv that will never happen

[subtle flare]

That will never happen with human greed

[hollow cloak]

yea

ego and greed make the worst duo

[exotic basin]

Rebought my 5950x and next week I will have my cooler

What can a 5950x run

[vast harness]

we have been waiting for a whole decade

[fleet canopy]

A 5950x could possibly run minesweeper and MS Paint

Won't run Crysis

[exotic basin]

Lol

[exotic basin]

Ah shit can't run DBD or league

Rip

Lmao

[rich quiver]

gtx 970, i7-4790k, 8gb. Sometimes i play with 20fps, how do i solve this problem?

[formal plume]

get a RTX 3090, i9-12900K, and 32GB of 6000mhz RAM

[fleet canopy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV5K02V5gvE

[waxen eagle]

Hey uh I need a advise computer builds

Whats best goes with 32G RAM / 16 GB RAM. Ryzen 9 7950X , GPU 6800 and a 650 watts Power on a mother board and a computer mid case.

With a budget maybe around 350

[vast harness]

I had a stroke reading this

[subtle flare]

Use pcpartpicker

[waxen eagle]

I just realize after researching

I need am5 zen 4 motherboard with ddr5.

[subtle flare]

Yes

AM5 is only DDR5

A budget of $350 isnt feasible at all for AM5 just because of RAM cost alone

Meanwhile Intel 13th gen is both DDR4 and DDR5 compatible

Even then $350 isn’t enough for a 13900K

It’s priced at $610

7950X is priced $549

So $350 can’t even buy a CPU

[waxen eagle]

Well I already obtained ryzen 9 7950x. I just need mother board, case, and ddr5. Going to build another pc build. my last computer freaking dies because of cpu pins being broken. Intel i7 12700k.

[formal plume]

hell naw 😂😭

Ryzen 9 and RX 6800 for $350

[waxen eagle]

I already have it.

[formal plume]

not to mention the 32GB of RAM already breaks the budget alone

[waxen eagle]

I already bought new ddr5 case and motherboard already

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/988485730504409178/1045136023178461205/image.png alright ima be off.

[subtle flare]

Lmao Corsair 5000D is $170

350 - 170 = 180

180 for mobo and ram left makes you left nearly nothing

So I’m assuming $350 is a typo

Unless the Corsair vengeance is like bad bad

(Which it is, just 1 bad)

Dominance is better, as well as other brands such as G.skill

[vast harness]

rip

gonna need to expand that budget a tad bit fella

or well, buying second hand ain't a bad option

I feel that 7950x might be a bit too much for a 6800

though I guess the extra performance on the bucket will make you less CPU bottlenecked

[vast harness]

game off the CPU only

would actually make sense if it was a G model

[fleet canopy]

What I'm understanding is they are asking about what to get for 350$ while simultaneously buying a board, ram kit, case, also while having already bought the cpu and card

[formal plume]

the entire situation is confusing

I thought their whole budget was $350

but it isn't?

and why are they asking when they supposedly bought everything already

[fleet canopy]

Perhaps alternate currency makes 350$ a whole ass 4090 and 13900k PC

But ignore all of the messages and just take it apart for a bit and you'll understand it's only the case board and ram they needed to buy

Cheap ass board but I would probably assume it was 450$ instead

[formal plume]

unlimited budget and already chose before asking

great question

[bright shard]

Does anyone know what i should order for food?
Btw i already ate.

[fleet canopy]

Order some chicken lo mein with no veggies and dumplings

For me of course

[bright shard]

Did you read the latest senko

[fleet canopy]

Haven't read since I just watched the anime

Apparently the artist made the Manga to appeal to his own fantasy of small fox mommy kink and basically ruined it one way or other

I guess I'll read it anyway at some point, might as well be worth catching up to what happens

[bright shard]

Cause it 'ended'

I think he made a few mistakes, but i liked the anime less than the Manga

[fleet canopy]

Oh yeah that's true the anime sort of had this abrupt ending

Ig same story with ditf except cut much short

[bright shard]

If ditf was my first anime, i would never have watched another

[fleet canopy]

Lol

I think it was my first?

That or senko was idk which anymore

[bright shard]

It was way too long ago, but

First exposure to anime was either

Cardcaptor sakura, big o, hamtaro, yugioh, or sailor moon

[fleet canopy]

Oh yeah I did see some yugioh

That was quite a few years ago, pretty close to the day I started using discord or a year in

To be fair I do remember seeing Naruto and Pokémon (if you consider it an anime I guess) as my first since both of those were something my brothers watched like 10 years ago or whatever

[terse dragon]

ERRO3: unauthorized system override detected. - Waiting for system assets to initialize..... =---------------------- what do i do to fix the loading screen

[tidal granite]

It’s not broken just wait

[formal plume]

nobody calls themselves a hacker! ...he's a engineer

[keen aspen]

okay

my computer now has yet another new problem

it never used to do this, but if i change resolution or change from fullscreen to windowed mode ore vice versa, my screen freezes. i can still hear the game working and playing but it just shows one frozen frame on my screen. and if i alt tab out and back in it works for half a second then freezes again. first gmod, then dying light, and now gtfo. why do my games freeze when i change resolution or change windowed/fullscreen?

[twilit crow]

What's your OS/Service Pack?

[keen aspen]

windows 11

[twilit crow]

I'd start by checking your graphics & cpu drivers, then look towards the Windows Runtimes found in your application listings. Sometimes the odd file gets corrupted.
If that is to no avail, look into DirectX related issues.

I am having a similar issue on Linux, for me it's a DirectX11 issue, but that is unrelated, but worth mentioning the DirectX as that does handle resolution switching for full screen applications.

[waxen eagle]

I ordered ddr5 5600 ram stick and this gotta be a joke

[formal plume]

it's for your house to increase render capacity

plugs right into the outlet

[waxen eagle]

Plugin meter capacity yes

[bright shard]

Report to Amazon

[cyan cape]

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1123278 opinions on this pc

[bright shard]

dogshit case, mediocre card.

[cyan cape]

aside from that

[bright shard]

1. they dont show you the real gpu in the image
2. the cpu cooler in the image is stock
3. [repeated] (because the case is dogshit, the cooling is dogshit)

the build is old enough to have fallen off cyberpowers website

[twilit crow]

So it doesn't come with a PSU? 😂
There also doesn't seem to be a lot of headroom to upgrade

RAM speeds aren't mentioned either. Could be getting something really shitty or half decent 🤷‍♂️

[fleet canopy]

"16GB of DDR4 2400MHz RAM"

I saw the speed

It went by my eyes

RTX 3060, Ryzen 4500 (Aren't those like laptop CPUs?), RAM mentioned, 1TB nvme, and wifi support

[bright shard]

its 650w

[twilit crow]

Very little room for upgrade then

[fleet canopy]

I would say a handful tbf

Radeon 7000 should have some good ppw and you wouldn't need much more than a 5600 or perhaps a 5800x3d

[dry hollow]

4th gen isn't a laptop CPU, AMD just launched them at a time to make them irrelevant

[fleet canopy]

I thought they made the entire Ryzen 4000 as a laptop only lineup and then did a whole ass desktop thing for ryzen 5000

That's what I've been told at least I guess

Just so it would make sense but idk

[dry hollow]

That used to be the case but they later launched desktop parts

They really aren't worth it in my opinion. Most boards don't support them out of the box

[austere basalt]

waiting for system assets to initialize

guys how do i slove this ?

i waited for 15mins and its still loading

[exotic basin]

What exactly is a bios update

Just Google translate for ur motherboard to cpu or something

Since it's older gen

[exotic basin]

Ahhh

[warm urchin]

also where you overclock like a mad man

[golden fiber]

Anyone with 4080? Do you get 120fps in this game at 4k?

[subtle flare]

I doubt rarely anyone has a 4080 when the XTX is going to be on par at a lower cost

For gaming, at least

[vast harness]

to be fair AMD GPUs have been on the losing side since the existence of CUDA acceleration

though I can't deny new gen cards from them are way better value in terms of ppw

sadly they are still just gaming cards and barely anything else

[bright shard]

honestly, i can count on one hand the times i needed cuda or something else

RDNA3 will be fine for me. im glad industry isnt in my buying space, pricing me out.

[formal plume]

an update to the BIOS
which the BIOS is essentially the foundation code of what makes the computer run

there's a mild risk to updating the BIOS, since if it fails or power goes out during the update, the motherboard is just dead

[bright shard]

often times new hardware does not work properly, and needs bugfixes provided so it does. generally CPU/ram related issues.

[vast harness]

honestly wish that was the case for me

[ripe valley]

-hi there anyone want to join

[merry bay]

you'll let us join your PC building squad?

[subtle flare]

I’m in for that

[north elk]

Can't wait for RDNA3/RX 7000 series

[ornate sparrow]

3090 does that anywhere you dont have swarms of babies

[shrewd shoal]

Hey guys I have an Intel i7 and a rtx 2060 super...what settings should I put on such that my game looks decent but doesn't put a very high strain on both cpu and gpu (laptop cooling kinda feels lacking)

[bright shard]

you talking in general or for GTFO

also buy a laptop cooler

[shrewd shoal]

Gtfo

[shrewd shoal]

Broke rn after black Friday deals

🤣

[bright shard]

turn down anything fog related, or AA related.

[shrewd shoal]

Any other settings? The ant aliasing or something?

[bright shard]

anti aliasing is AA

@shrewd shoal

[shrewd shoal]

Ok

[shrewd shoal]

Does that change from pc to pc or is it constant for all?

[bright shard]

if the game and your PC support DLSS or FSR, disable AA and enable those.
GTFO does not support DLSS or FSR without brute force.

personally, my eyes suck so i turn AA off in general anyways.

AA is generally some of the most expensive settings, aside from shadows.

[formal plume]

me turning the resolution down cause I know my shitty eyes can't notice the difference anyway

[bright shard]

Honestly, id rather use fsr

Because scaling, text, and other nonsense

If i was gonna go potatomode

[north elk]

Playing counter strike source on ultra

[formal plume]

"get the RTX 4090 bro it's totally worth it bro your PSU can handle it bro"

[north elk]

With electricity price in this economy, the choice between gaming and showering has never been easier

[subtle flare]

You can run a 4090 on a 850w or even a 700w psu but highly not recommended

Don’t think anyone here is would willingly do that

[north elk]

If you have the money for a 4090

You have the money for a correct PSU

[fleet canopy]

Yes!11

About 2000w

[jade ermine]

7900XTX waiting club

gonna be my first radeon since my old and trusty 6870

[bright shard]

with all these people salivating

i just hope i can fucking get one

[subtle flare]

Some people don't need to upgrade, for instance if I had my old mining rig that had 1000w psu I wouldn't need to buy a new one

[fleet canopy]

Or just don't buy the 4090 since you'll be broke as hell afterwards anyway

[subtle flare]

I mean, performance gain

You would only buy the 4090 for the performance gain in gaming and workload

[fleet canopy]

So is the 7900XTX, but for 600$ less, or what is now 1500$ less for me l o l

My only interest is gaming so something like the 7900 XTX is most preferred

Plus they still have the cards massive, not what I want

[subtle flare]

It has less performance gain than the 4090, and has no workload application

In your case, it is a steal

Since you only want it for gaming

[fleet canopy]

Yeah but also as far as it is, it's not 2500$

[subtle flare]

Lmao it isn't $2500

[fleet canopy]

and that's for usd

last time I did it was

[subtle flare]

I got my MSI 4090 Liquid X for $1.9k

That's w/ tax

MSRP was $1.75k

[fleet canopy]

Unless I'm only seeing scalping prices idk honestly

but it's 2.5k from what I remember

[subtle flare]

FE MSRP was $1.5k

[fleet canopy]

Ig it dropped but eh

[subtle flare]

Lmao what?

It never raised

That was the starting price

Only prices that dropped were CPU prices

It's always been $1.5k+ unless you checked on ebay where people scalped ass

I've seen prices at $8k

But if you bought it via AIB website or nvidia, newegg, etc., prices were as advertised

Most expensive card MSRP was the Strix

Priced MSRP at $2k

If anything the only GPU that dropped price was the MSI 4090 Liquid X

By a solid $50-100

[fleet canopy]

It's probably much different for you but at least this is what I can just find on amazon for east us

[subtle flare]

Why Amazon?

Don't know about you @fleet canopy but you're getting ripped off at Amazon there

[fleet canopy]

I only check amazon and newegg cause lol

[subtle flare]

Pretty sure you can check other AIB websites and find cheaper prices as well

[formal plume]

^^^

I live in the US so I also check Best Buy

and they tend to have cheaper prices

[subtle flare]

Only thing that should be affecting price is 1. website/manufacturer and 2. taxes

I tend to check straight from the source

That's the cheapest

[flat swift]

ok i got a i3 10100f gt710 1gb vram and 8 gb ram and about 200 euro budget

what is a good gpu and allows me to buy ram (30 euros)

so its back down to 170 euros

[placid sentinel]

checked out a local secondhand marketplace thing for nvidias and the first card under 200 was an 1660.. even 1080s went higher, let alone 2080s or 3060s.. check out secondhand, go as high as u can, the game will thank you for it.. (dunno about the older amd stuff at all) ...

u could score a semi decent brand gaming pc with something close to 200 even

1660 did run r5 but r6 woulda struggled, r7 garden stuff a nightmare..

[flat swift]

i play with the gt710 and i still understand your struggles but you dont know what its like to play on 1024 x whatever

[bright shard]

which contintent?

[flat swift]

europe

[placid sentinel]

my potato integrated lappy does a 15fps quake2 retro mod gtfo 😄

[flat swift]

balkans

[bright shard]

yikes.

[flat swift]

zamn

[placid sentinel]

640x something.. but main rig a solid 3060 60+ fps alltho not all maxed

[flat swift]

ice

so just to shorten everything we said

what is the best card with 200 euro budget

[placid sentinel]

someone could sell an old pc all included for cheap, then blow up the parts list for diamonds

[bright shard]

do cards even exist for 200 euros?

[flat swift]

yes

is the msi gtx 1630 gddr6 4gb ventus xs oc good

this one

[fleet canopy]

Must be one of those cards that are just secretly released cause I've never heard of one before lol

[flat swift]

1630's were released about 1 month ago

[fleet canopy]

Oh I see

[flat swift]

i saw a review and they said it was kinda bad

the 1630 series

so this will be better

[placid sentinel]

in .fi just found an 1650 at 199,90 but sold out.. so i would agree with that

[flat swift]

alright man thanks for your help

[bright shard]

can you price check the rx 6600?

[placid sentinel]

but do look at secondhand too, might be someone "has" to sell and u pounce on it

[flat swift]

alright thanks

[flat swift]

sorry to come back again but do you think a amd at my price range (~180 euros) is better than a nvidia one?

[bright shard]

which card

[placid sentinel]

https://www.xda-developers.com/best-budget-graphics-card/

[flat swift]

thanks

[placid sentinel]

u can compare them, rx6500xt vs nvidia 1650

https://versus.com/en/amd-radeon-rx-6500-xt-vs-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1650

[flat swift]

also

what is the best site to buy a gpu

good prices

[placid sentinel]

regional, cuts down on customs

eu ofc no tolls but cheap from amazon will bite you at the border

depends on country ofc, here we get a +24% cheapo punishment

[flat swift]

which country?

[placid sentinel]

finland

[flat swift]

oh i thought it was turkey because they also have the two dots with english letters

[placid sentinel]

buy cheap from the us amazon and guaranteed customs fare

[flat swift]

yall a pretty good country

[placid sentinel]

so local big retailer, not necessarily a computer store

a big general store might have some cards bought as bulk and a good price

[flat swift]

thanks

[placid sentinel]

we got verk.com which is usually aces

they buy in the thousands and sell for an okay price usually

[flat swift]

ice

[jade ermine]

as eu peasant, im looking at 2.3K€ starting price for 4090 and 7900XTX starts from 1219 euros

[north elk]

No way, I thought it would be more like 1k€

[jade ermine]

well 24% vat

depends on where u live i guess

[north elk]

Ah

I forgor us business displayed prices without taxes

[shy mortar]

My build is like $560 and it actually is hella solid

[subtle flare]

It’s same for the US, tax doesn’t apply until you checkout. Shipping too, if applicable

[north elk]

ik ik

here all prices are with taxes

[shy mortar]

It’s true! I swear

My boss I work for gave me the deal

The specs are I3 9100f, H310M MSI Pro, GTX 1080, EVGA 1200w Platinum P2

With a 32GB DDR4 of RAM and a 1TB SSD

Only for $560

Plus monitor and case

144hz Asus Monitor

[fleet canopy]

That's pretty nice

I find it weird that a 1200w psu is included but eh for 560$ honestly a steal with monitor included

[ornate sparrow]

that's actually not bad, only downside to it is the 9100

[shy mortar]

I use to have a CX600 but he got a $250+ PSU and sold to me for $100 so I couldn’t say no

[fleet canopy]

Nice

[subtle flare]

That actually makes it so much easier to calculate

Though different states here have different tax percentages

So rip, never gonna happen

[tacit edge]

Oh wait

Wrong channel sorry.

Oh no the gods of GTFO have struck me with 10,000 scouts

U right

[brazen condor]

Can someone tell me how i know i have the right bios version that my new cpu is going to need before i install it?

[echo pawn]

Check the Driver/Support page of your mainboard to see when they added support for that CPU and then press Win+R to open the run console and enter msinfo32

You'll see the version of your bios in there

If you want to be safe, you can flash the newest version which should always work

[bright shard]

The latest one. Personally i like to separate from windows nonsense and actually open the bios to check.

If its a fresh board and a newer cpu, it wont.

You either need bios flashback, or an older cpu so you can flash.

[brazen condor]

Turns out that didn't even matter

pc just froze on m-flash screen

[bright shard]

Wont boot?

Bsod?

What motherboard?

[brazen condor]

B450M PRO-VDH MAX

[bright shard]

What state is the pc in?

[brazen condor]

It's working fine

I'm not trying flashing the bios again until i know why the hell that happened

[bright shard]

Phew.

Board does not have bios flashback

So if it fails ur fucked

[brazen condor]

Does the m-flash boot not work with displayport?

[bright shard]

It has mflash support?

Youre doing it though the usb stick?

[brazen condor]

Yes

[bright shard]

Let me see the usb properties

[brazen condor]

It has FAT32 if that's what you're wondering

[bright shard]

Hmmmmm.....

[brazen condor]

I'm pretty sure it's video output problem during that screen

[bright shard]

Confirmed tool breaks on anything other than hdmi

[brazen condor]

I'm kind of too scared to try it again anyway

I bought a ryzen 5 5600 to replace my 3400g

I haven't even started putting it into my pc and i'm already fucking up

[bright shard]

Just be glad youre not having to "buy" a cpu just to flash a bios, then return that cpu.

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1167054-solved-msi-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac-m-flash-black-screen/

[unborn pollen]

Post your machines, I'm curious what you've got 💪

[hollow widget]

As budget as it gets
CPU: Ryzen 3 1200 (already ordered ryzen 5 5600 so gonna upgrade)
GPU: rx 580 8gb
RAM: 16 gb 3200 cl 14

[unborn pollen]

The 16 gb is still more than the average gamer has I'd suppose. I've net many people with 8GB

[hollow widget]

Yeah i had 8 gb in the past but i knew that the first upgrade should definitely be just getting more/faster ram, and yeah it helped a lot, less stutters and just better all together

[unborn pollen]

I feel like I need to upgrade my gpu to fit my CPU 😭

[hollow widget]

Also big part of that was the fact that the 8gb was just a single stick

[hollow widget]

What are your specs?

[unborn pollen]

I7- 12700F
RTX 2070
32 GB 3200

The CPU outperforms the 2070

[hollow widget]

Not bad not bad

[hollow widget]

I mean from what i know its better that way

[unborn pollen]

1080p would be no problem for 120+FPS on max

[hollow widget]

If the gpu is better than the cpu you can get some bad stutters (speaking from experience)

[unborn pollen]

But My screen is 4k, so the gpu load is much higher

[unborn pollen]

Yeah. Bottleneck

[hollow widget]

Yeah 2070 aint a 4k card XD

[hollow widget]

Yep exactly

[unborn pollen]

4090 is too much for me lmao

Although I must admit That GTFO runs smooth on max settings

[hollow widget]

Honestly 4090 is too much for almost anyone

[hollow widget]

Yep its pretty well optimized (except on some levels)

[unborn pollen]

But.. We are cyberpunks...

[hollow widget]

Well time to get a huge electricity bill

[unborn pollen]

I have an electricity Flatrate

[hollow widget]

Well then thats no problem for you XD

[unborn pollen]

The 4090 still costs 2000€

[hollow widget]

Yeah way too much

Im honestly looking forward for amd gpus

Not that i would be able to buy them

But they look sick

[fleet canopy]

Hm.

I have me a 3700X, 2070 Super, 32GB of 3200Mhz CAS16, and a 1440p 170hz

I got the 1440p 60hz first

Realize then that 1060 3gb can't fucking run anything for shit cause it's 3gb vram

So card!

Then for some reason the 7700K just gets worse every passing day unless I do an actual PC restart

So comes the 3700x

[unborn pollen]

I mean the 7700k isn't the newest CPU either

My previous one was the 4790

[fleet canopy]

I did also get the ram kit with the cpu, I had like 16gb of 2400mhz or something

Good enough for a 7700k anyway

[unborn pollen]

Don't forget to mention the RGB

We all know that rgb makes your PC 20% faster

BTW. Anyone up to do some PE runs in R7?

[fleet canopy]

The only thing rgb is stock amd cooler, the pc case front fan (I haven't even changed the case since when I first got my 7700k/1060 3GB which was around 2017 or something

[unborn pollen]

Hold on, you use a stock cooler?@fleet canopy

[fleet canopy]

Had a DRP4 but lost am4 and I also gave my brother the 7700k for whatever that also went with drp4

So now my card runs 77c, makes a loud ass whirring noise if it's MW2 or anything intensive, and it kind of bugs me now lmao

[unborn pollen]

Beautiful coil whine

[fleet canopy]

I'm planning around 5800x3d and 6800XT/6900XT or whatever the RX 7000 will be

Nah I don't think it's coil whine? it just ramps up the rpm

[lucid harness]

I got this:
i5-12400,
16GB 3600MHz (I forget the latency),
RX 6650 XT, 8GB vram,
IPS 1080p 144hz

Works great until super heavy settings or ray tracing stuff

[fleet canopy]

I wouldn't bother doing ray tracing on anything AMD has

[unborn pollen]

Honestly I'd consider going for an aftermarket cooler if I were you

[lucid harness]

Yeah, otherwise it runs great when games support FSR stuff

[fleet canopy]

The RX 7000 stuff maybe but I guess they wouldn't be anything compared to NVIDIA's

The CPU is fine for me, it just sits around 70c

Oh yeah

[lucid harness]

I feel that 12GB vram is the ideal amount and 8 is the minimum these days

[fleet canopy]

I also have to keep side panel open so my card can do 77c

[lucid harness]

Wait wouldn't maintaining case pressure be better for air flow?

[fleet canopy]

Well with what both AMD and NVIDIA offer, I think you'd pretty much just get 10-12GB if you're buying anything an x700 or x070 series or above

Not when my card will just get more hotter if I cover it

No point if it makes it worse

[lucid harness]

Probably need better case fans then

[fleet canopy]

I should have replaced the case and fans like long ago but honestly I wanted to just have a whole PC build to bother with that than kind of deal with the smaller stuff over time lol

[bright shard]

I7 3770k, gtx 970, 16gb ddr3, nobara.

👴

[lucid harness]

Oh man. Old pc

[pine void]

Ryzen 5 5600x
Asus tuf GeForce 3060 12gb
32gb 3200hz ram ddr4

I think I might have gotten the 3200hz wrong

[bright shard]

Amd needs to hurry tf up so i can upgrade.

[fleet canopy]

7950X3D and 7900XTX

gaming

Absolute nightmare I guess

[lucid harness]

I hope they release a 7600 XT soon

[subtle flare]

Current uncomplete build:
Ryzen 7900x
MSI Suprim Liquid X 4090
G.Skill Neo DDR5-6000 64 gb (2x32 gb sets)
MSI x670 Ace Mobo
Corsair MP600 Pro XT SSD (1 TB)
MSI Ai1300p PSU (back-ordered)
Corsair 5000D Airflow

Need to get a Gen5 SSD and then finally boot up my computer for the first time when my PSU arrives. Also need to spot myself a 4k monitor soon

[merry bay]

7000 3D variants should get announced in a month during CES
but I guess with the caliber of the build it's probably no issue to sell and replace it when it comes

[subtle flare]

Maybe I'll upgrade, I've had the 7900X the moment it first dropped but never got to use it since my PSU hasn't arrived yet

[bright shard]

current build in progress:
7700x ?
7900xt/xtx ?
asus tuf x670 ?
teamgroup 2x16 cl 32 5600 (plan to oc to 6000)
phanteks p600s
frost spirit 140 black
superflower leadex SE 1000w plat
teamgroup cardea 2tb gen4x4
@subtle flare

[subtle flare]

Don't know about XTX or XT anymore