#gtfo-related-questions | GTFO | Page 626

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 10:20 AM

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not really....

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you basically 1 shot kill everything

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about 20 meters away

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unless giant or charger scout

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 10:21 AM

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that's more a question about that specific weapon's balance

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 10:21 AM

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like i said, slapping a suppressor on doesn't do anything to the gun

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except boost it power

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 10:22 AM

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not talking about real life mechanics

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but even with that weapon if you're just normal stealthing in a fairly populated room and something alerts outside hammer range, there's a good chance there's more stuff within 10m and you can't shoot

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 10:23 AM

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there's a chance, yes

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but you have to go in and stealth with hammer to get that chance

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 10:23 AM

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🤔

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 10:24 AM

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and on top of that, since we have to balance a gun to work like that giving that "gun have suppressor = damage nerf/max ammo nerf/etc"

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 10:25 AM

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vital sierra but you have to go in and stealth with hammer to get that chance

are you talking about just skipping hammers and shooting rooms straight away?

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 10:25 AM

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you give me the option

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the gun was made for stealth

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 10:25 AM

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i feel like you would try to hammer first to save ammo

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but even if you did shoot

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who says normal stealth mechanics don't apply to silenced weapons?

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 10:26 AM

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it did, but it affect so little, you don't even see it in action

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 10:27 AM

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depends

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 10:27 AM

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distant ice i feel like you would try to hammer first to save ammo

but this should still be the case most of the time

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 10:27 AM

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vital sierra and on top of that, since we have to balance a gun to work like that giving that...

and for this, not even

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take the SMG we have now

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keep the stats, make it have that suppressed mechanic

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seems like a pretty fun weapon to mess around with but i don't see it as particularly broken

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man the discord word censorship with automod

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going too far

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 10:28 AM

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well, when you have one gun suppressed

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why not go for other gun

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 10:29 AM

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???

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do all of them have thermals

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do all of them have pierce

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 10:30 AM

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you could just switch it on

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 10:30 AM

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that's in no way related to a balance discussion

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 10:30 AM

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you take example of smg having a suppressor

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now let talk about sniper with a suppressor

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 10:31 AM

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the argument against suppressors right now as i understand it is that it automatically makes weapons broken, or you have to nerf said weapons into oblivion

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saying "a weapon can become broken when suppressed" is plain idiotic

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 10:31 AM

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well, we haven't even played around with smg that's suppressed, yet

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 10:32 AM

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indeed but on paper there doesn't seem anything too broken about it

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 10:32 AM

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"on paper"

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 10:32 AM

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i think we're done here

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 10:51 AM

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Yeahh but it removes literally what gtfo its all about

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Stealth suppose to be cqc and tense. If i fucked up with a supressor i just wake uo thw room and instead of getting penalize i could easily just switch weapons and start shooting from safety

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Yeah theres many good ideas on modded but not evwrything fits vanilla gameplay

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I wouldnt put rpgs on gtfo

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Or night vision

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It literally removes what gtfo its all about and it doesnt make it better

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Thats why the second i touched lockout i fucking dip to another rundown cuz shit was really wacl for.me and its just didnt feel right

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Legit rundown 2 but with cool gadgets (99% of mods just trying to be that )

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 11:00 AM

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and here comes a new challenger

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honestly who else could surpass alpha's stupidity except for bd

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 11:02 AM

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yes, let's insult people

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that's way people will understand your point

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PirateSimon

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<@&408548765599793173>

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 11:08 AM

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that'll look like you calling mods on me when the bot gets yeeted kekw

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i'm just amazed at the combo here

true magnet Jul 17, 2022, 11:09 AM

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Thanks ❤️

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You want me to ban you too, Stormpooper?

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😄

ruby wasp Jul 17, 2022, 11:10 AM

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Is it time ? 🍿

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 11:10 AM

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unfortunately that will save me from neither alpha nor bd

tacit zealot Jul 17, 2022, 11:12 AM

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neon gust Yeahh but it removes literally what gtfo its all about

Yeah. Literally in faq was it says that supressed/grenade etc aren't ever going to be implmeneted. I was just annoyed by how he said it would be a shitty feature if added

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 11:13 AM

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if he read the whole convo he skipped he'd see that's not the case, arguing specifically about balance

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whether it fits the game is a whole other deal

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:23 AM

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distant ice that'll look like you calling mods on me when the bot gets yeeted kekw

Im gonna call the nearest special needs facility to you

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Maybe a specialist can actually tell me whats wrong with you

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PirateSimon

iron roost Jul 17, 2022, 11:28 AM

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what is an overload sector?

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:30 AM

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tacit zealot Yeah. Literally in faq was it says that supressed/grenade etc aren't ever going ...

I mean, they say that with bots too PirateSimon look where we are right now

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Inb4 its not supressed weapons bit bows and arrows

ruby wasp Jul 17, 2022, 11:30 AM

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iron roost what is an overload sector?

An optional sector similar to secondary but supposed to be either harder to be cleared or make the level harder

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For B3 it makes the way to extraction harder, for C2 it makes the level harder, for C3 it makes the level harder

iron roost Jul 17, 2022, 11:32 AM

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So it’s something in the mission

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:32 AM

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Its side objective

iron roost Jul 17, 2022, 11:32 AM

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Alright

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:33 AM

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So you have main, extreme, overload

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If you do them all in the same mission you get a prisioner efficiency badge at the end screen

iron roost Jul 17, 2022, 11:34 AM

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What’s that do

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:35 AM

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iron roost What’s that do

Nothing, just shows that you did the full level

iron roost Jul 17, 2022, 11:35 AM

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Oh okay

iron roost Jul 17, 2022, 11:55 AM

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does the long range flashlight do much?

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 11:56 AM

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it let you see more in the dark

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most consumable only have limited uses

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 2:20 PM

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iron roost does the long range flashlight do much?

Best flashlight for vision in the dark.
And I swear to god it has this weird ability to highlight resource lockers and artifacts. For some some reason they shine something extra when hit by LRF which makes them so much easier to notice.

Also great against spitters - the wall-things that spit toxins at you.

iron roost Jul 17, 2022, 2:20 PM

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ive not seen the spitters

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does it blind them or somethng

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 2:22 PM

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Spitters arw testicles in the wall tjat screm if yoy get near them

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You use your flashlight to disable them for a couple of seconds

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 2:22 PM

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They act as environmental hazard. They look like big spores growing on walls, with weird luminescent green "eyes".
They spit at you on approach, but hide / go passive when shined upon.

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Thankfully devs use them very rarely.

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So far I've only seen them in C2, I believe.

iron roost Jul 17, 2022, 2:23 PM

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they sound like a less annoying version of the wall things in back 4 blood

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 2:32 PM

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iron roost they sound like a less annoying version of the wall things in back 4 blood

If only you knew kekw

iron roost Jul 17, 2022, 2:32 PM

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neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 2:36 PM

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iron roost they sound like a less annoying version of the wall things in back 4 blood

They wctually quite annoying

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During EA they where basically spammed in places that where high traffic

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Now they use it more as a stealth dange

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Wich im thankfull for since it gave me and everyone ptsd from r2 > r5

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😫

iron roost Jul 17, 2022, 2:40 PM

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im kinda glad i didnt play during that time lmaoo

tardy ingot Jul 17, 2022, 2:40 PM

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r2 spitters :^ )

tardy ingot Jul 17, 2022, 2:41 PM

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iron roost im kinda glad i didnt play during that time lmaoo

i mean a lot of the greatest levels were in that time
Like r2d2, r4d1, r4d2, r5c2 etc

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 2:42 PM

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Yeah but we talking about spitter here

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Ya like some of that r2b1 and b2

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🤌

tardy ingot Jul 17, 2022, 2:42 PM

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yes
It was simply towards the thing that they didnt play there and are glad about that lol

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 2:43 PM

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Bambino i rather take a shell from a chokemod in my balls

tardy ingot Jul 17, 2022, 2:43 PM

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neon gust Ya like some of that r2b1 and b2

wdym a wall of spitters isnt what ya like KAPPA

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 2:43 PM

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tardy ingot yes It was simply towards the thing that they didnt play there and are glad abou...

I mean, theu get to enjoy uptdates with actual content

tardy ingot Jul 17, 2022, 2:43 PM

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i remember there being a blob of spitters over a doorway in r2 and it was an insta death if you didnt flashlight it

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 2:43 PM

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Not charger scout 😅

tardy ingot Jul 17, 2022, 2:44 PM

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eh charger scout unironically is a great addition for the game

Tho obviously r5 shouldve gotten an actual new enemy lol

iron roost Jul 17, 2022, 2:44 PM

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i only see like A B C D

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no R

tardy ingot Jul 17, 2022, 2:44 PM

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hm?

iron roost Jul 17, 2022, 2:44 PM

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on missions

tardy ingot Jul 17, 2022, 2:45 PM

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R = Rundown

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its the whole set of missions (currently rundown 7)

iron roost Jul 17, 2022, 2:45 PM

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oh

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 2:50 PM

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neon gust Ya like some of that r2b1 and b2

r2b4*

topaz anvil Jul 17, 2022, 2:52 PM

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R5b2

craggy pier Jul 17, 2022, 2:54 PM

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r2b4 solo 😩

jagged kayak Jul 17, 2022, 2:57 PM

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Are snatchers not affected by precision multiplier?

distant ice Jul 17, 2022, 2:58 PM

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they don't have any weakspots

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 3:10 PM

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distant ice r2b4*

Funnily enough ive never had struggle with spitters in that level, r2b2 and d1 gave me the most cancer

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D1 for well, obvious reasons

vital sierra Jul 17, 2022, 3:12 PM

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just memorize where they spawn and don't go near them

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PirateSimon

fair fulcrum Jul 17, 2022, 5:04 PM

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do overload objectives and prisoner efficiency award anything, or is it just flex value?

weary mesa Jul 17, 2022, 5:08 PM

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Overloads do, PEs do not

mild tangle Jul 17, 2022, 6:01 PM

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Hey guys. I am playing D1 with a friend and the HSU-Unit is just gone. We completed the whole level including running around the terminals at the end. Is there something we can do?

minor fractal Jul 17, 2022, 6:03 PM

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mild tangle Hey guys. I am playing D1 with a friend and the HSU-Unit is just gone. We comple...

Have you checked the end of the pit in the central room?

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It should spit the baby back out at you after you finish 4/4

mild tangle Jul 17, 2022, 6:03 PM

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minor fractal Have you checked the end of the pit in the central room?

I am standing right in front of it. No baby.

minor fractal Jul 17, 2022, 6:04 PM

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When did you last have the baby?

mild tangle Jul 17, 2022, 6:06 PM

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minor fractal When did you last have the baby?

Before the terminal sequence starts. We died one time and had to restart at the checkpoint. The baby was still there.

minor fractal Jul 17, 2022, 6:07 PM

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Not sure, then. Might be a CP bug.

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You can try doing LIST NEO to see if it shows up.

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You can also try all dying and resetting to checkpoint again to repeat the terminal sequence.

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 6:08 PM

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minor fractal When did you last have the baby?

Back 1973, sadly he grew up to be a mercenary in afghasnistan

minor fractal Jul 17, 2022, 6:09 PM

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neon gust Back 1973, sadly he grew up to be a mercenary in afghasnistan

Life do be like that sometimes.

mild tangle Jul 17, 2022, 6:13 PM

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minor fractal Not sure, then. Might be a CP bug.

I ran back to the start of the level and there was another HSU-Unit for some reason. So it glitched somehow. We did all the scans and terminal section with a glitched baby. Strange indeed.

minor fractal Jul 17, 2022, 6:13 PM

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Wack

mild tangle Jul 17, 2022, 6:15 PM

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minor fractal Wack

Thanks for you effort mate. Glad that we could still finish the mission.

fair fulcrum Jul 17, 2022, 6:42 PM

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weary mesa Overloads do, PEs do not

in that case, how many overloads for a reward? I couldn't see any rewards for doing em

ruby wasp Jul 17, 2022, 6:43 PM

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3

minor fractal Jul 17, 2022, 6:44 PM

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4 gives unique reward for R7.

ruby wasp Jul 17, 2022, 6:44 PM

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i forgor D1 💀

fair fulcrum Jul 17, 2022, 6:45 PM

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ty

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 7:24 PM

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Are they any long term negavtive consequences to doing C2 overload?

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Or once its done - its done?

steel valley Jul 17, 2022, 7:39 PM

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both objectives are self contained

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besides the cell management you need to get through overload

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 7:42 PM

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lots o' infection

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pretty big chance you're team will be at 20~60% infection depending one how you performed prior

ruby wasp Jul 17, 2022, 7:43 PM

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you can clear the first zone with 0 fog

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for the 2nd zone it's not really an issue since you're supposed to do it in stealth

icy cave Jul 17, 2022, 7:51 PM

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dry pumice Or once its done - its done?

Done is done

rigid sinew Jul 17, 2022, 8:01 PM

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viscid wolf lots o' infection

unless you reload from checkpoint with 5 cells PirateSimon

dapper sage Jul 17, 2022, 8:36 PM

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anyone have advice for b3 overload

proper glen Jul 17, 2022, 8:37 PM

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Pain.

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You want cheese advice or fair gamer advice

prime falcon Jul 17, 2022, 8:43 PM

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Just got the game, do I need to do A1 first on my own? is it like a tutorial?

proper glen Jul 17, 2022, 8:44 PM

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Cheese strat for B3 Overload: ||Preload the main obj scan before you do the overload. Charge it to 90/95% then leave and do the overload objective. For the actual overload room we just bonked a few regular chargers then loud pulled the entire room. Loot supplies then 1 person grabs the case and meets everyone back at main objective scan. The first wave of regular strikers spawn in a static spot inside the main objective room, if you learn that spot and place a mine you can 1-shot that entire wave. They will spawn about 5 seconds after you complete the main objective HSU scan. From there it is just a matter of inching forward between waves. You can do it with the turbine to preserve health or just tank the fog. Thermal scopes help a lot.||

proper glen Jul 17, 2022, 8:44 PM

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prime falcon Just got the game, do I need to do A1 first on my own? is it like a tutorial?

EVAL at the top of the rundown list, above A1, is the tutorial

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A1 is an actual mission, but it is a very easy one to ease you/your group in to the flow of the game

rigid sinew Jul 17, 2022, 8:46 PM

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proper glen Cheese strat for B3 Overload: ||Preload the main obj scan before you do the over...

imo that's a bit too much effort
I find it more convenient to pull the overload room and defend on the hallway of the disinfection room, then loot overload, then do the HSU scan, then have one guy go for the cargo while the other 3 defend the entrance of the HSU room

ruby wasp Jul 17, 2022, 8:49 PM

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i find it more convenient to clean stealthily ngl

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When they're not packed like a freaking gang in detroit though

proper glen Jul 17, 2022, 8:52 PM

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rigid sinew imo that's a bit too much effort I find it more convenient to pull the overload ...

We kept having OVL and Main error waves spawn opposite directions

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so mine cheesing the first main wave made it a lot easier

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plus its really satisfiyng to watch 10 strikers die the frame they spawn

fierce zodiac Jul 17, 2022, 9:00 PM

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Does C2 have only 1 or 2 checkpoints?

ruby wasp Jul 17, 2022, 9:01 PM

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2

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3 actually if you include secondary

fierce zodiac Jul 17, 2022, 9:01 PM

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Shweet, just making sure

topaz anvil Jul 17, 2022, 9:26 PM

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proper glen Cheese strat for B3 Overload: ||Preload the main obj scan before you do the over...

lol you can cheese B3 Overload much harder than that

proper glen Jul 17, 2022, 9:28 PM

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topaz anvil lol you can cheese B3 Overload much harder than that

Really the only cheese part of that is putting a mine on the main waves hard spawn

topaz anvil Jul 17, 2022, 9:29 PM

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You don't even need to do Overload to finish Overload with my cheese

ruby wasp Jul 17, 2022, 9:51 PM

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Can't y'all play normally like normal beings ?

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😳

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 9:54 PM

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ruby wasp Can't y'all play normally like normal beings ?

Normal... beings?

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I don't understand what you mean.

median forge Jul 17, 2022, 10:09 PM

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That b3 overload “cheese” is just the strat I used

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Wouldn’t call it cheese, more so just smart prep work

rigid sinew Jul 17, 2022, 10:14 PM

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I wouldn't even call it smart

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it feels like extra effort :p

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 10:21 PM

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Man people need to learn what cheese is

ruby wasp Jul 17, 2022, 10:21 PM

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Cheese is 🧀

rigid sinew Jul 17, 2022, 10:26 PM

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🧀 is Cheese

ruby wasp Jul 17, 2022, 10:26 PM

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The GTFO sectors :
Main : 🗿
Secondary : 🗿
Overload : 🗿
PE : 🗿

tardy ingot Jul 17, 2022, 10:27 PM

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if it works reliably then its a good time and ammo safe tbh

rigid sinew Jul 17, 2022, 10:27 PM

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ruby wasp The GTFO sectors : Main : 🗿 Secondary : 🗿 Overload : 🗿 PE : 🗿

You misspelled High and Extreme PirateSimon

ruby wasp Jul 17, 2022, 10:28 PM

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The community when looking at how glitched the game is : 🗿
The devs when they try to bugfix it : 🗿
Calle whenever he sees #gtfo-chat or #general : 🗿
Doc when mods : 🗿

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I'm impressed by how 🗿 can depict everything at once

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disappointment, sadness, anger, concern, joy

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the mental status should be in units of 🗿

rigid sinew Jul 17, 2022, 10:29 PM

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When among us posting back in #general : 🗿

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T *= 2 : WoodsPraise

ruby wasp Jul 17, 2022, 10:31 PM

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When the sniper melee is T*= 2 : 🗿

topaz anvil Jul 17, 2022, 11:06 PM

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rigid sinew 🧀 is Cheese

🧀 is 🧀

steep trail Jul 17, 2022, 11:24 PM

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Can anyone speak on the secondary objectives, as in would you advise against them at a novice skill level?

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:29 PM

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steep trail Can anyone speak on the secondary objectives, as in would you advise against the...

I would not advise against them

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If you are brand spanking new, perhaps clear the level on main first then clear the optional objectives

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:30 PM

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^

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Please do

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I rather have you beat the actual level than bashing your head for the next 4 hours on a checkpoint specially if you loose

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:31 PM

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neon gust I rather have you beat the actual level than bashing your head for the next 4 ho...

🤓

steep trail Jul 17, 2022, 11:31 PM

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midnight gazelle If you are brand spanking new, perhaps clear the level on main first then clear ...

Okay thank you. Last night I cleared the A and B1 thus I was curious where to go next

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:31 PM

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midnight gazelle 🤓

Is it wrong tho!

steep trail Jul 17, 2022, 11:32 PM

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neon gust I rather have you beat the actual level than bashing your head for the next 4 ho...

10-4

rigid sinew Jul 17, 2022, 11:32 PM

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midnight gazelle 🤓

🤓 🤓

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:32 PM

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steep trail Okay thank you. Last night I cleared the A and B1 thus I was curious where to go...

You can either go to C1 or beat B2.. It doesn't really matter.

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:32 PM

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steep trail Can anyone speak on the secondary objectives, as in would you advise against the...

I would. Secondary objectives are cursed for the most part. The secondaries are kinda alright, but overload objectives are a big oof

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You should get familiar with main path first, then try testing the secondary waters

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:32 PM

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It's only cursed if you have skill issue

steep trail Jul 17, 2022, 11:33 PM

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dry pumice I would. Secondary objectives are cursed for the most part. The secondaries are ...

I got you. I will focus on building skill first then prestige

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:33 PM

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B2 secondary is doable on 1st try actually, but biotracker is mandatory or else your turrets will become dead weight

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:33 PM

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dry pumice B2 secondary is doable on 1st try actually, but biotracker is mandatory or else ...

All of the levels are doable first try

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:33 PM

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Also requires the team to be familiar with giant synckill procedure

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:34 PM

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midnight gazelle All of the levels are doable first try

Smashing X to doubt

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For the elites maybe, but not for the average gamerman

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:34 PM

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inb4 you get R4E1 ending

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:34 PM

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viscid wolf inb4 you get R4E1 ending

Ok R4E1 first try would be nuts

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:35 PM

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dry pumice For the elites maybe, but not for the average gamerman

Just don't be average gamerman then

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Proceeds to look at my 1100 hours in GTFO

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:35 PM

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me opening a warden door with 8%/13% ammo and seeing a pmother and tank scream

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:35 PM

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viscid wolf me opening a warden door with 8%/13% ammo and seeing a pmother and tank scream

🤓

steep trail Jul 17, 2022, 11:36 PM

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midnight gazelle Just don't be average gamerman then

Shiiid word... instant neck beard over 9000

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:36 PM

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This game kinda operates on dark souls school of success

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Go in blind, get fucked, learn patterns, come back prepared and counter what the game throws

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:37 PM

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The only 2 levels I find challenging are C2 and C3 on PE

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:37 PM

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A's and B's are forgiving but from C and further it slowly becomes hell

steep trail Jul 17, 2022, 11:37 PM

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dry pumice This game kinda operates on dark souls school of success

Oh well Ill be fine 😵‍💫

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:37 PM

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C2PE (the intended way) is no doubt the hardest level in R7

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:38 PM

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by "intended" you mean 3/4?

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:38 PM

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I could see C3PE becoming consistent with some practice

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:38 PM

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dry pumice by "intended" you mean 3/4?

ofc

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5/6 isnt a real pe

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:38 PM

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shivers

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:38 PM

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D2 and E1 really aren't that bad

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:39 PM

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I will be checking for 3/4 C2PE passes

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those without it will be forcibly removed from the cool kids club

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:39 PM

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Here's my [2,1,0,0], that's all you get

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in backwards order too

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:39 PM

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dry pumice Here's my [2,1,0,0], that's all you get

_>

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Removed

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You didnt beat it on PE

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:39 PM

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And probably never will at this point

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:39 PM

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midnight gazelle D2 and E1 really aren't that bad

D2 and E1 are pretty straight forward

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:40 PM

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Unless i get lucky on military grade carriers one day

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:40 PM

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easy to get down after a few attempts

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:40 PM

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I'll get my cool backpack and call it a day

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:40 PM

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C2 and C3 have taken more attempts than my total attempts to beat D2 and E1 combined

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:41 PM

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I still haven't gotten a checkpointless C3PE

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played it once and moved on

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:41 PM

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I gotta admit tho

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C3 is pretty fun

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:41 PM

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I think C2 is god level

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:41 PM

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C2 is very tedious

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:41 PM

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one of my all time favorite levels

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:41 PM

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And long

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:41 PM

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its not that long

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:42 PM

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It feels really long

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:42 PM

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but each section is cool and innovative

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:42 PM

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C3 stealth portion if far more tedious

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I'm so sick of meleeing C-scouts

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:42 PM

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Bonking charger scouts is fun tho

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:42 PM

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Subjective

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:42 PM

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viscid wolf 5/6 isnt a real pe

You tripping beyond belief

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:43 PM

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neon gust You tripping beyond belief

5/6 is so easy man

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:43 PM

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Bonking shadows scouts are more fun

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:43 PM

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so

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:43 PM

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I love bonking shadow scouts

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:43 PM

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you literally put a sniper sentry down and theres basically no alarm

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:43 PM

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hammering waves on r4e1 was easy as hell too

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bu that everybody considers it a win

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:43 PM

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wh

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are you saying that 5/6 is in anyway hard

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:43 PM

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neon gust hammering waves on r4e1 was easy as hell too

Well yeah, literally any rundown without stamina was just kiting simulator

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:43 PM

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compared to 3/4

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5/6 made it literally free

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like it went from overload to free obj

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:44 PM

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Did it now

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:44 PM

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viscid wolf are you saying that 5/6 is in anyway hard

I didnt say it was hard, but saying that it isnt a PE because someone use their head and decided to do it later doesnt discredit them for completing

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:44 PM

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Then how comes i haven't even seen what's behind the scan door then

lusty bramble Jul 17, 2022, 11:45 PM

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They removed the fog for 5/6 so it's easier than before

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:45 PM

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Oh actually

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Seems to happen for us too...

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Hmmm

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I wonder if its a bug or...

viscid wolf Jul 17, 2022, 11:45 PM

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neon gust I didnt say it was hard, but saying that it isnt a PE because someone use their ...

when itd basically a cheese yes

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:45 PM

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the 5th cell shouldn't remove the fog, right?

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:45 PM

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viscid wolf when itd basically a cheese yes

thats not cheese at all my man

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:45 PM

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lusty bramble They removed the fog for 5/6 so it's easier than before

bruh, I remember I plugged in the 5th out of 6th cell and the fog didnt remove :(

lusty bramble Jul 17, 2022, 11:45 PM

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Cheesing the level lmao

tight drum Jul 17, 2022, 11:45 PM

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Does anyone know what the intended number of snatchers per wave on D1 overload?

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:46 PM

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its just the way the level was design

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that allowed that

tight drum Jul 17, 2022, 11:46 PM

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cause it's been weird

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:46 PM

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So we had to play the other objectives in fog

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:46 PM

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tight drum Does anyone know what the intended number of snatchers per wave on D1 overload?

Unclear. Believed to be 1, 2 at worst.

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:46 PM

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tight drum Does anyone know what the intended number of snatchers per wave on D1 overload?

1

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:46 PM

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tight drum Does anyone know what the intended number of snatchers per wave on D1 overload?

I believe it's on a timer

dry pumice Jul 17, 2022, 11:46 PM

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People report getting up to 4

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Something something desync

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:46 PM

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1 its the intended nunber

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make everybody disconnect before putting the code

lusty bramble Jul 17, 2022, 11:46 PM

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1 is actually the loneliest number

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2 is just as bad as 1

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:46 PM

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and once you put the code in let them rejoin

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:47 PM

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lusty bramble 1 is actually the loneliest number

pounce on deez

midnight gazelle Jul 17, 2022, 11:47 PM

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pounce on deez nuts

lusty bramble Jul 17, 2022, 11:47 PM

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Oh my word

neon gust Jul 17, 2022, 11:47 PM

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you didnt tought i was gonna getchu uh

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biach

tight drum Jul 17, 2022, 11:47 PM

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Thanks

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weird we got two or three almost every wave

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then we got one a few times and zero once.

lusty bramble Jul 17, 2022, 11:49 PM

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Pouncer I barely know her

rigid sinew Jul 18, 2022, 12:01 AM

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midnight gazelle bruh, I remember I plugged in the 5th out of 6th cell and the fog didnt remove :...

cause it shouldn't
that's a checkpoint bug

noble sierra Jul 18, 2022, 1:33 AM

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midnight gazelle bruh, I remember I plugged in the 5th out of 6th cell and the fog didnt remove :...

That means you're not a CP user thumbs_up

midnight gazelle Jul 18, 2022, 1:33 AM

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Cheese pizza

static dove Jul 18, 2022, 2:57 AM

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how to B3 overload

midnight gazelle Jul 18, 2022, 3:05 AM

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static dove how to B3 overload

Have cfoam grenade, have a few people with PDW

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Have a bio tracker

static dove Jul 18, 2022, 3:09 AM

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what do with cfoam grenade

drifting mauve Jul 18, 2022, 3:20 AM

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hey quick question about D1, me and friends tried doing it but it was laggy af for all of us

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considering we barely have any lag in GTFO, was wondering if it's a buggy level or our pc's are just not good enough for GTFO anymore?

waxen jetty Jul 18, 2022, 3:23 AM

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unoptimized stage

lethal pendant Jul 18, 2022, 3:43 AM

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yo, how do i activate maintenance mode in D2 stage?

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i got the password but after that im completely stumped

thorn rain Jul 18, 2022, 5:12 AM

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Is there a way to reduce lag when I try to play with asian players(I live in North America)? I used to build a proxy or tunnel when playing terraria or Minecraft, don't know if it can also applies to GTFO?

viscid wolf Jul 18, 2022, 5:18 AM

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its just ping

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you cant combat ping

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minecraft and terraria are the same its just they're harder to notice due to the lower stakes

thorn rain Jul 18, 2022, 5:21 AM

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I used to have the same ping/loss issue when playing terraria with my asian friends. But after I rent a tunnel the problem solved

viscid wolf Jul 18, 2022, 5:21 AM

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what is a tunnel

thorn rain Jul 18, 2022, 5:23 AM

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NAT traverse

noble sierra Jul 18, 2022, 7:20 AM

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It could help, especially if your friends in several Asia countries like China. But there's no guarantee for that, just have to trial n error.

icy cave Jul 18, 2022, 8:08 AM

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lethal pendant i got the password but after that im completely stumped

Type commands, look at bottom one

vital sierra Jul 18, 2022, 8:14 AM

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is the class X shadow alarm in D1 has static spawn?

daring fog Jul 18, 2022, 9:49 AM

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static dove how to B3 overload

Mines

static dove Jul 18, 2022, 9:50 AM

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Where do I put them, just on doors and shit?

distant gate Jul 18, 2022, 1:47 PM

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static dove what do with cfoam grenade

Throw it on doors. Throw it on giants. Throw it on scouts. Throw it in a bowl of rice. Mix it with some spaghetti. Toss it in a bowl of salad. Put it in yo chili.

pulsar sage Jul 18, 2022, 1:57 PM

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you can also just hold them in your hand

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really nice feature

distant gate Jul 18, 2022, 2:02 PM

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or throw them down in your pants. Feels great ReversedConfusedUlf

distant gate Jul 18, 2022, 2:10 PM

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static dove how to B3 overload

Put a sniper sentry down stairs, aim into the long corridor room. It'll kill all the chargers. Helps a lot. Preload hsu scan. Everyone carry fog repeller

vivid kayak Jul 18, 2022, 2:24 PM

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I forgot but what is the hammer charge needed to break a Giant limb?

trim crescent Jul 18, 2022, 2:25 PM

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why can i not find players through Matchmaking ?

dry pumice Jul 18, 2022, 2:26 PM

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trim crescent why can i not find players through Matchmaking ?

Many reasons.

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One of them is that discord dwellers actively advise against it.

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Two: it might not work properly.

trim crescent Jul 18, 2022, 2:27 PM

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so if i have to play with bots ?

vivid kayak Jul 18, 2022, 2:28 PM

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trim crescent so if i have to play with bots ?

You can use #lfg channels

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See #how-to-matchmake

dry pumice Jul 18, 2022, 2:36 PM

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.t lfg

uneven gulchBOT Jul 18, 2022, 2:36 PM

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Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

daring fog Jul 18, 2022, 3:21 PM

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matchmaking never worked and from how we see the devs "fixing" it it will never work again

daring fog Jul 18, 2022, 3:21 PM

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static dove Where do I put them, just on doors and shit?

lining the walls upwards so they kill the big chargers when you pull the room

north palm Jul 18, 2022, 5:19 PM

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Let's talk boosters! Main/Special damage specifically.

Weapons that are well affected:
Hel revolver: 13% lets it one-tap striker heads.
DMR: 4% let's it one-tap striker heads.
Choke/Shotgun: 33% lets them 3-tap Giant Striker Chests.

Are there any other practically useful points peeps know of, or are the rest of them just "Ghetto Range Booster" (or in the case of most full-auto weapons, a low ammo efficiency multiplier).
(46% damage lets a pistol oneshot a flyer in the eye under 6m, lol. Does that count?)

noble sierra Jul 18, 2022, 5:24 PM

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50% melee damage let hammer one-tap c-scout from the back. 100% can one-tap any giant from back to the head.

slender oxide Jul 18, 2022, 5:43 PM

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We're currently working through the Overloads in R7. How do you guys think they would be ranked in terms of difficulty? So far we've cleared the Overload for B3

north palm Jul 18, 2022, 5:43 PM

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We've already got the Melee modifiers all mapped out.
Handy Dandy chart, go!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/990766848469508127/997847356521328670/unknown.png

tardy ingot Jul 18, 2022, 5:58 PM

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slender oxide We're currently working through the Overloads in R7. How do you guys think they ...

as in the difficulty overload brings in overall imo
D1 (its bugged rn but even without it i think its the hardest, maybe c2 etches it out)
C2
B3
C3

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but thats cuz i rly didnt struggle to much with the C3 overload (and it doesnt make the level itself that much more difficult (it has 1 point tho where you have a high likelyhood of wiping)

viscid wolf Jul 18, 2022, 7:13 PM

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C3 is definitely pretty manageable with a few attempts

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I think D1 ovl is the easiest imo but I haven't played it the intended way yet so I'm just guessing

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C2 can be the hardest or the easiest depending on if you're doing the intended way or 'cheesing' it

craggy pier Jul 18, 2022, 7:14 PM

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cheesing c2?

viscid wolf Jul 18, 2022, 7:14 PM

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not really a cheese

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also overload only I mean

craggy pier Jul 18, 2022, 7:14 PM

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ah i see

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i dont think its that big of a deal

viscid wolf Jul 18, 2022, 7:15 PM

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it's not

craggy pier Jul 18, 2022, 7:15 PM

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sniper sentry for the win

viscid wolf Jul 18, 2022, 7:15 PM

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but 5/6 makes it far too easy and clearly isn't intentional

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the intended way is easily 10~15x harder

daring fog Jul 18, 2022, 7:16 PM

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when do we expect lobby fixes so we dont get full teams kicked out of runs for no reason?

viscid wolf Jul 18, 2022, 7:17 PM

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give it a good 2 years

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maybe they'll return from their break

daring fog Jul 18, 2022, 7:35 PM

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yeah 4th b3 lobby breaking in a row now with boosters lost

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everytime a different host and everytime host was kicked and then lobby failed migrating

icy cave Jul 18, 2022, 8:01 PM

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viscid wolf I think D1 ovl is the easiest imo but I haven't played it the intended way yet s...

D1 is the easiest ovl.

icy cave Jul 18, 2022, 8:02 PM

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daring fog everytime a different host and everytime host was kicked and then lobby failed m...

In R420 it'll be fixed. boosters are irrelevant tho. Do not fear losing those.

ruby wasp Jul 18, 2022, 8:02 PM

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If it wasn't a damn lottery to get 1 snatcher, sure

icy cave Jul 18, 2022, 8:02 PM

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ruby wasp If it wasn't a damn lottery to get 1 snatcher, sure

Have everyone leave but the host, host puts in command, everyone rejoins

ruby wasp Jul 18, 2022, 8:02 PM

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Sometimes i wish someone would take the time to report all of the current known bugs in a single file

icy cave Jul 18, 2022, 8:03 PM

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apparently it fixes it. BUT it is crazy it has to be done that way

ruby wasp Jul 18, 2022, 8:03 PM

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I think rey tried doing it alone and got 2 snatchers at once

icy cave Jul 18, 2022, 8:03 PM

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Hmmmm meaby 2 might be the intentional number then

ruby wasp Jul 18, 2022, 8:04 PM

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nah

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i think 1 is the intentional number

icy cave Jul 18, 2022, 8:04 PM

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Without confirmation from the devs we can't really know anyways

ruby wasp Jul 18, 2022, 8:04 PM

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The devs can confirm stuff !?

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😳

icy cave Jul 18, 2022, 8:04 PM

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😅

daring fog Jul 18, 2022, 8:09 PM

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ruby wasp The devs can confirm stuff !?

prob only a levels never seen them get past b levels

cobalt pollen Jul 18, 2022, 8:39 PM

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1 is the intended number

hard nexus Jul 18, 2022, 9:56 PM

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tardy ingot as in the difficulty overload brings in overall imo D1 (its bugged rn but even w...

b3 definitely much easier than c3 overload

cobalt pollen Jul 18, 2022, 9:57 PM

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much easier

hard nexus Jul 18, 2022, 9:58 PM

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i did c3pe on "first" attempt (died way too much and almost left but persevered and completed) in like 6-7 hrs and took a break from the game for 2-3 weeks

cobalt pollen Jul 18, 2022, 9:58 PM

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you have tight budget on c3 pe

gaunt vapor Jul 18, 2022, 9:58 PM

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tardy ingot as in the difficulty overload brings in overall imo D1 (its bugged rn but even w...

How is D1 bugged?

cobalt pollen Jul 18, 2022, 9:58 PM

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you get more resources to use on b3

hard nexus Jul 18, 2022, 9:58 PM

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well yeah the hard part of c3 is the 2nd half

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the overload really

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it was horrifying, but c3 is probably my favorite level

cobalt pollen Jul 18, 2022, 10:00 PM

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i like c3 but

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im not much of a melee guy

hard nexus Jul 18, 2022, 10:00 PM

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i mean same

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but im very much an uplink guy

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especially the ones from overload

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amazing, 10/10, more uplinks like this pls

cobalt pollen Jul 18, 2022, 10:01 PM

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i had fun typing in overload because i was the quickest typer in the group lol

hard nexus Jul 18, 2022, 10:01 PM

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i was so fast to confirm an uplink it started one before the guy could even connect

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and it skipped us a few waves they just stopped spawning and the music stopped

tardy ingot Jul 18, 2022, 10:12 PM

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does anybody know how the HSU error in B3 exactly works?

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like how many enemys spawn? in which rythm? If it changes in anyway after the first spawn of enemys (which like to spawn some on top of you and others further away for the next few seconds for some reason)

ruby wasp Jul 18, 2022, 10:16 PM

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4 strikers, every 15/20s

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There's like a huge wave spawning the moment you end the HSU scan

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then you get the error alarm

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Overload stacks another error on top of that with a higher cooldown

tardy ingot Jul 18, 2022, 10:18 PM

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is that rly the case 😮 ?
(havent done main only yet)
It always felt like overload was chargers -> smalls -> chargers -> smalls

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but if its 4 every 15/20 after a big wave then thats nice

hard nexus Jul 18, 2022, 10:19 PM

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yeah main only is nothing

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but is noticeable on pe

tardy ingot Jul 18, 2022, 10:26 PM

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main only isnt „nothing“ if you run through with 15-1% hp and 10% ammo with no fog turbine

ruby wasp Jul 18, 2022, 11:00 PM

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Well you aren't supposed to run through fog

dry pumice Jul 18, 2022, 11:11 PM

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Are you now?

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Either way... What do we do about shotgun turret? Does it has any purpose or is it just lost to us? Thing eats ammo like a hungry dog and yet nobody feels any solid returns on that

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Sniper might be double tapping its' targets, but at least it actually kills them first

tardy ingot Jul 18, 2022, 11:19 PM

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ruby wasp Well you aren't supposed to run through fog

i mean kinda cant avoid it when you want to not take fog turbine for speed reasons

Anyway thx for the answer ariHyperNod

slender oxide Jul 18, 2022, 11:57 PM

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viscid wolf I think D1 ovl is the easiest imo but I haven't played it the intended way yet s...

people are saying D1 Overload is easy cause it's bugged but not sure what they mean. is there a way to do it that I'm unaware of? o.O

viscid wolf Jul 18, 2022, 11:58 PM

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it used to be broken

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before it was patched, there was a bulkhhead you could grab before putting in the command

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so you would just go into overload, grab the key, do main

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go right up to the exit, then put in the command, then run to extract

slender oxide Jul 18, 2022, 11:59 PM

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oh so they fixed it and now it's hard? xD

viscid wolf Jul 18, 2022, 11:59 PM

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well

icy cave Jul 18, 2022, 11:59 PM

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slender oxide oh so they fixed it and now it's hard? xD

No it is still the easiest

viscid wolf Jul 18, 2022, 11:59 PM

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it's still relatively easy

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I'd say

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but an overload is an overload

slender oxide Jul 19, 2022, 12:00 AM

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we've done B3 so far and that was manageable after about 3 tries

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is D1 just constant snatchers every few mins till you extract?

icy cave Jul 19, 2022, 12:00 AM

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slender oxide is D1 just constant snatchers every few mins till you extract?

yep

slender oxide Jul 19, 2022, 12:01 AM

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so basically C2 is the hardest overload? and C3 is pretty easy too?

icy cave Jul 19, 2022, 12:02 AM

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C3 as a level can be pretty rough. But overload on its own is really not that hard.

icy cave Jul 19, 2022, 12:02 AM

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slender oxide so basically C2 is the hardest overload? and C3 is pretty easy too?

C2 ovl is a bigger challenge yes

topaz anvil Jul 19, 2022, 12:13 AM

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icy cave C2 ovl is a bigger challenge yes

If you do it properly

neon gust Jul 19, 2022, 12:24 AM

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slender oxide oh so they fixed it and now it's hard? xD

If the level breaks its quite interesting

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It really depends on how broken the level gets after inputting that command PirateSimon

slender oxide Jul 19, 2022, 12:31 AM

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the level breaks after putting in the command? in what way?

limpid scaffold Jul 19, 2022, 12:40 AM

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anyone know the actual numerical damage of each of the melee weapons

slender oxide Jul 19, 2022, 12:49 AM

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@limpid scaffold https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Br_2A3n3YDO1v0Kld27KCLvwRYKJqjliyhntoT2NTp4/edit#gid=381478729

silent flicker Jul 19, 2022, 12:54 AM

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are there any resources to help an individual and a team get better at the game?
trying to educate myself as much as i can to help me and my team get through the entire rundown + prisoner efficiency (eventually)

floral acorn Jul 19, 2022, 1:00 AM

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silent flicker are there any resources to help an individual and a team get better at the game?...

hit youtube and check out rawrchickennuggies and the real khepri and of course professor scaler.. they got a lot of good guides and tips, movement and stealth and setup etc

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other than that: play gaem, after xxx hours it gets easier and less mistakes and team doesnt have to do 30min planning meetings for everything etc

vital sierra Jul 19, 2022, 1:33 AM

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silent flicker are there any resources to help an individual and a team get better at the game?...

visit #guides-and-reviews

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there are a lot of video for you to watch

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most of it is up to date

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even though some of them are 1 or 2 years old

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there are also level guide video too if you're stuck on a certain level

fair fulcrum Jul 19, 2022, 8:17 AM

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tardy ingot i mean kinda cant avoid it when you want to not take fog turbine for speed reaso...

not to be a smartass but in that scenario if you would like to survive even a single hit, you'd better take that fog turbine

noble sierra Jul 19, 2022, 8:19 AM

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Without turbine won't make you die in one hit. You'll get 100 infection very fast but HP decrease kinda slow.

latent obsidian Jul 19, 2022, 8:35 AM

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I'm imagining its a speedrun

fair fulcrum Jul 19, 2022, 8:35 AM

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isn't 100% infection gonna make you 2%?

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my friend tested it once and that's what he told me

minor fractal Jul 19, 2022, 8:36 AM

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fair fulcrum isn't 100% infection gonna make you 2%?

If you have 100 health, it takes a long time to lose that.

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You degenerate at a constant rate.

fair fulcrum Jul 19, 2022, 8:36 AM

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oh yeah but I meant like he has 15% or whatever he said

waxen jetty Jul 19, 2022, 8:38 AM

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7 minutes until you go from 100 to 15

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but yeah not being at 2% is pretty nice

unreal abyss Jul 19, 2022, 8:54 AM

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Anyone know why bots will just get into a repeat cycle or reviving each other and shoving and never shooting when revived even if its only like 2 babies on them, it gets very frustrating

gilded jolt Jul 19, 2022, 8:57 AM

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Well they just always instantly revive if someone goes down

unreal abyss Jul 19, 2022, 8:57 AM

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im more confused about the shoving

gilded jolt Jul 19, 2022, 8:57 AM

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And from my experience it seems like if an enemy is directly on top of them they just shove instead of shooting

unreal abyss Jul 19, 2022, 8:58 AM

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D:

gilded jolt Jul 19, 2022, 8:59 AM

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Kinda annoying if there is a bunch of enemies and a bot shoves instead of shooting cause one of them is on top of it

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Then it gets hit by all the other ones

unreal abyss Jul 19, 2022, 8:59 AM

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ya been trying to just chill and do d2 bots but on my way to extract bots keep trolling me

vital sierra Jul 19, 2022, 9:02 AM

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bot will try to revive if they see a teammate down in about 10 meter

fair fulcrum Jul 19, 2022, 9:13 AM

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do scouts actually care whether I crouch or stand? I saw a video guide showing they do, and a written guide saying it doesn't matter

vital sierra Jul 19, 2022, 9:14 AM

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scout is just sleeper

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but move around

fair fulcrum Jul 19, 2022, 9:14 AM

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so there is some misinformation then

vital sierra Jul 19, 2022, 9:15 AM

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there's always misinformation

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PirateSimon

distant ice Jul 19, 2022, 9:49 AM

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Haven't seen a guide that makes no mistakes or left out information

dry pumice Jul 19, 2022, 9:50 AM

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fair fulcrum do scouts actually care whether I crouch or stand? I saw a video guide showing t...

I don't know, they're weird. Sometimes they ignore whatever you do, sometimes they don't.
As a spear person I often just walk up to them and stab them and they don't even react. But they do seem to start spreading if they hear someone sprinting.

fair fulcrum Jul 19, 2022, 9:50 AM

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yeah sprinting is 100% alert

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from my experience, walking do indeed push their hidden gauge from an extended range

tardy ingot Jul 19, 2022, 9:51 AM

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obviously might be wrong
But from what i remember walking makes them go into tentacle mode quicker

mossy aurora Jul 19, 2022, 9:58 AM

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walking definitely makes them tentacle quicker

latent obsidian Jul 19, 2022, 9:58 AM

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It seems like they have the agitation threshold same as anything else but instead of waking up they just tentacle

dry pumice Jul 19, 2022, 10:18 AM

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I can imagine that being the case, but the lack of proper feedback is kinda annoying. They should either glow or maybe make some unique sounds to note their awareness level.

distant ice Jul 19, 2022, 10:21 AM

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https://youtu.be/4QcHWd-FtX4

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Linked in #guides-and-reviews

fair fulcrum Jul 19, 2022, 11:48 AM

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distant ice https://youtu.be/4QcHWd-FtX4

yeah this one I watched
so this should be golden right? he says at the end that the code was checked and the "theories" tested

daring fog Jul 19, 2022, 11:56 AM

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depending on your height you can also not get hit by the tentacles

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cause boxes are safe spaces

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though dunno why we are in mgs teritorry but yeah

distant ice Jul 19, 2022, 12:20 PM

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fair fulcrum yeah this one I watched so this should be golden right? he says at the end that ...

I wouldn't say 100% but it should be the best one out there

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Things in-game are wonky anyway so you sometimes can't explain in full and keep it at reasonable length

craggy pier Jul 19, 2022, 1:44 PM

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here's my guide

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shoot gun enemy die

brazen sleet Jul 19, 2022, 1:49 PM

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I think here might get some help? we fail lots time in D2, stuck in one place with coming out mothers and baby strikes plus the fog and others ...

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can't kill mothers immediately, then lots baby strikes and different monsters in the fog ... eventually die from lots enemies

dry pumice Jul 19, 2022, 1:54 PM

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Keep rolling and praying it'll give you a tank instead

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Much fucking easier

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Mothers are cringe

distant gate Jul 19, 2022, 1:55 PM

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snipe mother with precision rifle winky wink

worthy trail Jul 19, 2022, 1:56 PM

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brazen sleet I think here might get some help? we fail lots time in D2, stuck in one place wi...

go to the other side for cell. You might find tank much more managable

vital sierra Jul 19, 2022, 2:00 PM

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dry pumice Keep rolling and praying it'll give you a tank instead

it's depended on what door you open

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if you open the tank room then the wave will spawn tank

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if you open mom room, it's spawned mom

brazen sleet Jul 19, 2022, 2:03 PM

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got it, many thanks for all

brazen sleet Jul 19, 2022, 2:41 PM

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finally we move a step on D2 ~~

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tomorrow keep going then XDD

waxen jetty Jul 19, 2022, 2:45 PM

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sniper sentry + bio > burst sentry

distant gate Jul 19, 2022, 2:59 PM

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waxen jetty sniper sentry + bio > burst sentry

facts

dry pumice Jul 19, 2022, 2:59 PM

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Just 2 snipers with bio

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And maybe a mine deployer

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That's how we did it

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We just camped the server room ramp

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All I had to do was to feed turrets and occasionally take shots at big guys

cobalt pollen Jul 19, 2022, 3:01 PM

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we did 3 sniper and a bio

tardy ingot Jul 19, 2022, 3:01 PM

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thats the "HOLD THE LINE" way

cobalt pollen Jul 19, 2022, 3:01 PM

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simply because we arent bothered to use the downtime between waves to deploy the mines

ruby wasp Jul 19, 2022, 3:02 PM

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The other way is to say fuck off to the game & rush 😳

tardy ingot Jul 19, 2022, 3:02 PM

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tho honestly mines for blood door insta clear or cfoam/bio for quicker stealth is probably more helpful lol

cobalt pollen Jul 19, 2022, 3:02 PM

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i just sat with the biotracker lol

tardy ingot Jul 19, 2022, 3:02 PM

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cobalt pollen simply because we arent bothered to use the downtime between waves to deploy the...

hm?
mines are simply for the 1 guy who sneaked to then solo the blood door pretty much ._. no?

minor fractal Jul 19, 2022, 3:03 PM

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Tbh mines aren't even that useful.

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Sentry does work on blood door, and c-foam trip deals with smalls.

tardy ingot Jul 19, 2022, 3:03 PM

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i mean the only danger in the blood doors are the hilarious amount of hybrids who come rushing

cobalt pollen Jul 19, 2022, 3:04 PM

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i mean 3 people are clearing blood door so

tardy ingot Jul 19, 2022, 3:04 PM

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i like running cfoam. If we get a trip mine that and 1 tool kite of cfoam make the 2nd blood door a breeze. First just gets downed by 3 people (bio and 2 sentrys can easily hold the wave for minutes)

cobalt pollen Jul 19, 2022, 3:04 PM

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they did a good job at it

distant gate Jul 19, 2022, 3:04 PM

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cobalt pollen i mean 3 people are clearing blood door so

unlimited ammo too

cobalt pollen Jul 19, 2022, 3:04 PM

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all i did in d2 was legit just sit near the sentries and mark the shadows

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swap to sniper when tank showed up

distant gate Jul 19, 2022, 3:05 PM

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D2 is too easy, please buff ReversedConfusedUlf

ruby wasp Jul 19, 2022, 3:05 PM

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tardy ingot i mean the only danger in the blood doors are the hilarious amount of hybrids wh...

You can even defend solo, at this point bringing 2 or even 3 people to deal with the blood door isn't an issue

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The 3 sentries will do a better job than your teammates

vital sierra Jul 19, 2022, 3:07 PM

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man, it took us 7 rundown to figure that out huh

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PirateSimon

tardy ingot Jul 19, 2022, 3:08 PM

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i mean we never had bio symbiosis sniper sentrys

vital sierra Jul 19, 2022, 3:09 PM

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it already fast enough

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isn't i heard that, if you do use bio symbiosis with sniper sentry, it shoot too fast and shoot dead body?

tardy ingot Jul 19, 2022, 3:11 PM

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ive only seen that happen with sentry cpu speed personally

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cuz they dont even shoot once per second

ruby wasp Jul 19, 2022, 3:12 PM

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Tbh the symbiosis is so strong it broke

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There were times when the sentry shot the enemy before it started to move

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Warudo tier

vital sierra Jul 19, 2022, 3:12 PM

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can shadow limb be broken?

median forge Jul 19, 2022, 3:15 PM

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Back before rundown 7 I asked for sniper sentry to be the undeniable king of sentries and my prayers were answered

ruby wasp Jul 19, 2022, 3:26 PM

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vital sierra can shadow limb be broken?

Yes

ruby wasp Jul 19, 2022, 3:27 PM

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median forge Back before rundown 7 I asked for sniper sentry to be the undeniable king of sen...

Well it was the king in R4 & R5

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😳

spark wolf Jul 19, 2022, 3:43 PM

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i haven't checked but it would make more sense if its still aiming at the dead body

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not hitting it tho

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happens often now that the sentry shoots both an enemy and a teammate behind that enemy

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so that seems correct

tardy ingot Jul 19, 2022, 4:26 PM

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btw regarding b3 main error
i checked. And unless someone has "specific info" what i gathered was 4 enemys every 30 seconds (with giants actually being a possible spawn) after the initial wave

ruby wasp Jul 19, 2022, 4:36 PM

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regular strikers ?

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Chargers will probably be something close to 40/45s then

silver fable Jul 19, 2022, 5:06 PM

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with giants actually being a possible spawn
well, the cargo error can spawn giant chargers, so I wouldn't expect anything less

north palm Jul 19, 2022, 5:09 PM

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vital sierra can shadow limb be broken?

Technically yes, practically no. They have 17 limb HP and 20 Hp total, so a whopping 3 damage worth of broken-limb-but-not-dead healthbar

tardy ingot Jul 19, 2022, 5:29 PM

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ruby wasp regular strikers ?

well yes
since im talking about main error alone

ruby wasp Jul 19, 2022, 5:32 PM

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epic

median forge Jul 19, 2022, 5:33 PM

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Hey 17 is exactly the amount a full charged spear does isn’t it?

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The wiki has corrected me

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17.5

spark wolf Jul 19, 2022, 5:57 PM

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rng for special enemies we call that replayability here 😎

soft crater Jul 19, 2022, 6:08 PM

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median forge Hey 17 is exactly the amount a full charged spear does isn’t it?

For body damage yes. Headshots is 22.75 ofc this is just precision multi. Not including back/headshot body multipliers

dry pumice Jul 19, 2022, 8:23 PM

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Which level is the most rich on artifacts?

rigid sinew Jul 19, 2022, 8:25 PM

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I suppose all should be rich on artifacts, with A1 being the one where it is easier to collect them

north palm Jul 19, 2022, 8:44 PM

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B3 has quite a lot, but is quite big. C1 and B1 are pretty awful for them for their size. A1 doesn't have many, but is pretty dense. B2 has quite a few, but good luck finding them, lol.

Haven't finished C1 yet, so those are all I know.

muted ravine Jul 19, 2022, 10:22 PM

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what tools are best for doing b3 in a trio?

dry pumice Jul 19, 2022, 10:26 PM

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muted ravine what tools are best for doing b3 in a trio?

Definitely biotracker because fog
1 sniper turret since you brought a bio tracker - might as well
The last one pick between Cfoam and Mine Deployer. I guess the latter, since former is kinda weak without the other.

muted ravine Jul 19, 2022, 10:27 PM

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okay yeah that seems about right

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i was thinking if dropping biotracker is worth for either another sentry or cfoam but the tool refills seem to be very far and few between in the level

dry pumice Jul 19, 2022, 10:28 PM

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That, and you WILL need vision in the final bit

muted ravine Jul 19, 2022, 10:28 PM

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thats true

gaunt vapor Jul 19, 2022, 10:32 PM

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Question: So as far as I am aware there is 3D audio in this game. For example, if you are doing a scan and there are waves of enemies coming, you can actually hear which side they are coming from. The problem I have is that 3D audio seems to be working in this game for me, but when I play another game that also has 3D audio I seem to find it difficult to hear where enemies might be coming from. Is there any solution that might fix that - I have a feeling my sound card might be broken.

viscid wolf Jul 19, 2022, 10:39 PM

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thats likely just the game

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you could try playing with surround sound on

gaunt vapor Jul 19, 2022, 10:40 PM

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viscid wolf you could try playing with surround sound on

Can you please elaborate on that?

viscid wolf Jul 19, 2022, 10:40 PM

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is your headphones gaming headphones?

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if not then ignore that

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some headphones give you the option to enable surround sound

gaunt vapor Jul 19, 2022, 10:41 PM

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viscid wolf is your headphones gaming headphones?

It's probably the cheapest headset out there - the thing is that 3D audio worked before, just for some reason it stop working for that different game

viscid wolf Jul 19, 2022, 10:41 PM

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that may just be the game itself

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what game is it that you're playing

gaunt vapor Jul 19, 2022, 10:43 PM

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viscid wolf what game is it that you're playing

hunt showdown - I stopped playing it due to having not much time and also 3D audio problems

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I can easily work out which direction waves will come from - but hearing hunters up close proves difficult

viscid wolf Jul 19, 2022, 10:43 PM

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maybe thats just the in game audio

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thats a common thing for a lot of close range shooters

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Rainbow 6 is also known for its notorious audio clarity

gaunt vapor Jul 19, 2022, 10:44 PM

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What would you recommend that I should do?

viscid wolf Jul 19, 2022, 10:44 PM

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are you confused from where they come or are you sure theres no 3D audio at all

gaunt vapor Jul 19, 2022, 10:45 PM

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I haven't played in a while but last time I played I think it was just no 3D audio - it was really hard to tell so my team mates were telling me to your left/right!

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Sep 6 2021 is the last time I played it lmao

viscid wolf Jul 19, 2022, 10:47 PM

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if it works for gtfo I'm assuming that its just because your headphones are too cheap that it makes it confusing with the dynamic audio

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probably not much you can do about it honestly

gaunt vapor Jul 19, 2022, 10:54 PM

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viscid wolf if it works for gtfo I'm assuming that its just because your headphones are too ...

I've had no problems for 3D audio for Hunt before - just one day it decided nah 3D audio is going down the bin

viscid wolf Jul 19, 2022, 10:54 PM

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interesting

gaunt vapor Jul 19, 2022, 10:54 PM

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Dropped the game, started playing GTFO where 3D audio is fine. I will try again

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Thanks

ornate arch Jul 19, 2022, 11:16 PM

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Any tips how to use bio tracker? I wait until enemies are pretty close before scanning to make sure I get the whole wave, but it still seems to only ping about 1/2 a wave consistently. Is this normal, or are there more tricks to effectively use this tool?

rigid sinew Jul 19, 2022, 11:18 PM

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I mostly wait until the wave gets to half of the bio's screen

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but for the most part the strat you are using is pretty much the good one

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the only moment where you can manage to ping all of a wave is when they are extremely packed together (aka when they are destroying a door)

neon gust Jul 19, 2022, 11:22 PM

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ornate arch Any tips how to use bio tracker? I wait until enemies are pretty close before s...

pull bio track when enemies are reasonably close or about to enter your room, shoot a little bit, swap again after you see that theres less triangles that you started with

rigid sinew Jul 19, 2022, 11:22 PM

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or each ~8 seconds

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PirateSimon

neon gust Jul 19, 2022, 11:22 PM

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nah thats the bots job PirateSimon

rigid sinew Jul 19, 2022, 11:23 PM

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beep boop

cobalt pollen Jul 20, 2022, 12:50 AM

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bots using it like their life depended on it

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then theres bio tracker players who are sometimes oblivious

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 1:57 AM

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Is the spear any good? I've been trying it out and enjoying it but im wondering what peoples opinion of it are.

viscid wolf Jul 20, 2022, 1:58 AM

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not being able to sprint with it is a massive downside

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:01 AM

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that was something that i was wondering about

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does that actually become an issue? cause i just found the reach and hiding till they come to me to remove the need to sprint

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:02 AM

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not being able to sprint limits it when there's a large group or if you're pushing through enemies

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also makes it awkward during error alarms/other timed sections

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:03 AM

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ok that makes sense

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for the earlier expeditions you can kind of just shoot every single enemy so i hadnt even considered using melee mid alarm

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thanks for the advice

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:04 AM

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ye melee combat to clean up enemies can save quite a bit of ammo over a run

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:04 AM

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You wouldn't normally use melee mid alarm unless its low density, or you run out of ammo

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:04 AM

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so what melee do you all use?

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:05 AM

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hammer or bat

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:05 AM

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Sledge is best. The proof is that it's been here since r1

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:05 AM

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i see

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can i still use it to 1 tap scouts?

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:05 AM

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all melees can kill scouts

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hammer/spear from any angle and knife/bat from the back of the head

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:06 AM

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ohh the back of the head does more

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i just thought it was knife/bat couldnt do it

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:06 AM

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most enemies take 2x damage if you're behind them

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:06 AM

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very interesting

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i just got the game this week so everything is new

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:07 AM

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there's a bit of a learning curve for sure

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:07 AM

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yeah i managed to do 3 missions but its just my friend and i so c1 is just brutal for us

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:08 AM

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mmm C1

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Not as cool as C2 but still a good level

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:09 AM

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that scan in front of the fog feels impossible with 2 bots

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im sure its a skill thing but idk what to change

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:09 AM

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The S-Scan at the start?

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:09 AM

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yeah

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:09 AM

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2x sniper sentries + bot bio makes it pretty easy

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:09 AM

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thats the furthest ive got lol

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:09 AM

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You can get rid of the fog

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:10 AM

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i got literally only glowsticks the whole level so i thought there were no repellers

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i have not seen a single one spawn so i thought they were disabled or something

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:10 AM

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Make sure you go to Zone 23 To turn off the fog to make it easier, combine sniper sentries + bio and make sure all the doors in the previous room are closed and mine/foam the closest ones if you have either (I feel like you can ignore the further ones since those take a lot longer to reach you)..

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:10 AM

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there aren't any iirc

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gotta do the terminal thing

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:11 AM

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i had no idea there was a terminal to disable it

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thats so cool

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:11 AM

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The scan won't change after removing the fog, but it'll be easier to see at least

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:11 AM

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It should give you the prompt when you enter Zone 20/21 (which is the zone with the scan).

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:12 AM

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sullen pilot i had no idea there was a terminal to disable it

When you enter the room and it says "WARNING: HIGH FOG DETECTED" or whatever in big red text, it also tells you that you can remove it in the progression text at the top

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:12 AM

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^

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:12 AM

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ah i didnt see that

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i just immediately started hunting for repellers

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:13 AM

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As a newer player it's expected to miss subtle changes in text like that, but yet a lot of more experienced players simply can't read

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:13 AM

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fair enough

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im surprised i missed that cause im usually the one to read everything while my friend is off killing everything

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:14 AM

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Did you forget the neonate when you did A1?

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:14 AM

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no i remembered that all the time

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but tbf i just got a bot to carry it

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:15 AM

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Plot twist: so many people didn't even realise that the neonate was a thing and just cleared out the level

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:15 AM

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man that would be a real burn to have to run all the way back

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:15 AM

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Even tho it says "take the neonate" so clearly CattoCry

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:15 AM

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It also gives you an objective marker on it doesn't it?

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:16 AM

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Only once you pick it up

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:16 AM

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yeah idk if im the only one but i read the objective before starting expeditions

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:16 AM

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Good, that's the thing that truly separates the best from the average

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:16 AM

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I'd be surprised missing it though as well considering it's in the crate(thing) at the start. lul

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:16 AM

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yeah it literally drops in front of you

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:16 AM

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icy nacelle I'd be surprised missing it though as well considering it's in the crate(thing) ...

Aesthetic

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:17 AM

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also bit of a topic change but what tools do you recommend?

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im currently running bio, my friend has mines and we give the bots sniper and burst usually

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:19 AM

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Does your friend understand good places to put mines?

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:19 AM

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Bio+Mines+2 Sentries is solid. I would probably just opt for two sniper sentries though over the burst just because snipers are stupid and you can get some long angles.

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:19 AM

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As well as appropriate mine distribution

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:19 AM

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we usually just put 1 in front of doors before an alarm and other chokes we think will hit a bunch

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ofc not placing them where scans will be

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:20 AM

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foam makes some maps significantly easier

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not c1 but something to keep in mind

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:20 AM

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icy nacelle Bio+Mines+2 Sentries is solid. I would probably just opt for two sniper sentries...

thats so funny cause my friend has been lobbying hard for 2 bursts and the shotgun was him meeting me in the middle of shotgun+sniper

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:20 AM

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steel valley foam makes some maps significantly easier

what would you replace with foam?

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:21 AM

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Shotgun is bad, imma just say it.

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:21 AM

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a sentry

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most cases

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:21 AM

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yeah the only times ive noticed it is when it puts pellets in my ass

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:21 AM

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foam w/o a mine just stacks problems

topaz anvil Jul 20, 2022, 2:21 AM

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4 foams

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:21 AM

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and i like bio a lot

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:21 AM

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steel valley and i like bio a lot

do you recommend bio on bots or on player?

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cause i like it for clearing rooms

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:22 AM

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bots for pinging, players for stealth

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depends what you want

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:22 AM

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Bots with bio have more range on pings but can be a bit silly in using it sometimes.

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:22 AM

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if there's shadow or solo stealthing player bio is much more useful

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:23 AM

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Nothing better than watching Dauda stop right next to a door with a wave right on his heels to refresh the bio pings on B3. kekw

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:23 AM

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but if all you want is to abuse sentry symbiosis then hand it off to a bot

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:23 AM

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how does sentry and pinging combo work?

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i saw that snipers and shotguns become more effective but idk how

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:23 AM

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enemies that are pinged are shot faster and it takes less ammo

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:23 AM

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(except for being able to shoot shadows)

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:24 AM

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steel valley enemies that are pinged are shot faster and it takes less ammo

oh so its just way better accuracy?

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:24 AM

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Shotgun+Sniper sentries get bio symbiosis, so they lock on faster, fire faster (snipers unfortunately double-tap enemies despite killing smalls with oneshot) and get "more ammo" (it's more that the ammo cost for each bullet is reduced).

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Burst does not get bio sym tho.

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:24 AM

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4x target aquisition speed for inital shot, 2x firerate and like 20-30% better ammo efficiency off the top of my head for the sniper

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:25 AM

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IIRC Ammo cost is reduced to 0.7 Or whatever.

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:25 AM

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wow those are some very nice bonuses

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so it may be worth it to just hand the scanner to a bot and let my friend with his thermal sight clear rooms

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:25 AM

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It basically completely offsets the weaknesses of the sniper (long time to lock on and fire initially), but comes at the cost of the double-tap issue.

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:26 AM

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im not sure that will be too much of a problem because we always somehow have too much tool refill

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:26 AM

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I mean, it shouldn't really be an issue no but it's kind of a shame to know that a lot of ammo is just being burned shooting at already dead enemies. kekw

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:27 AM

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true

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also since ive already interrogated you about every other part of the game, now its time for guns

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what primary do you recommend?

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:28 AM

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~~if anyone mentions hi cal i'm leaving~~

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pdw/hel revo are the best primaries

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but primary slot is flexible

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just take what works for you since they all fulfill similar roles

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:29 AM

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Just use whatever you're most comfortable with tbh. There's strengths/weaknesses and whatnot but ultimately find what you most enjoy using and use it unless it's actively inhibiting your team.

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:29 AM

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fair enough

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im currently using the pistol which feels really good if i can aim but sadly that is not in my skillset

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:30 AM

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pistol is nice

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:30 AM

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steel valley pdw/hel revo are the best primaries

yeah the hel revo was next on my list to try

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:30 AM

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ran it a lot in r5

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:30 AM

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Old pistol my beloved.

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:30 AM

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i was a little hesitant to run hel revo tho because sniper is my special

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the ability to 1 tap big bois is just too much for my rat brain to pass up

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the dopamine hit from dropping one is how i survive now

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:31 AM

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i love the sniper

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:31 AM

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I'm not sure how that relates to the HEL Rev tho.

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:31 AM

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just 2 single shots is all

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like low ammo in mag type stuff

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:32 AM

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hel revo has some of the best mag kill potential cause of penetration

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:32 AM

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if i was running the MG i would have no problem trying the revo cause i always have good ammo in secondary, but with sniper, once im out of ammo in the revo i would think im screwed

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:32 AM

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theoretically up to 8 kills per mag but more realistically 4-6

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:32 AM

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steel valley hel revo has some of the best mag kill potential cause of penetration

i had no idea it had pen

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:33 AM

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it pierces the first enemy

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:33 AM

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steel valley theoretically up to 8 kills per mag but more realistically 4-6

duuude thats so cool

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:33 AM

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all hel weaponary has some degree of pierce

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:33 AM

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Keep in mind as well you have your teammates (or well, teammate + bots) to help so you shouldn't be strictly considering taking everything on by yourself.

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:33 AM

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ok now i have to try it

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:33 AM

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icy nacelle Keep in mind as well you have your teammates (or well, teammate + bots) to help ...

true, but they all seem to disappear once i need em

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:33 AM

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the overpen is why it's so far above all other primaries

icy nacelle Jul 20, 2022, 2:33 AM

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I mean.. I can't argue with that considering my mates. lul

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 2:34 AM

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well it would appear i have now found my new loadout

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thanks for all the help

steel valley Jul 20, 2022, 2:34 AM

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gl

woeful sedge Jul 20, 2022, 3:26 AM

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what to bring for c1?

sullen pilot Jul 20, 2022, 3:53 AM

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the conversation above covers that somewhere

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i was initially asking about c1

wary linden Jul 20, 2022, 3:54 AM

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short answer. sentries

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with a bio

stone dirge Jul 20, 2022, 5:14 AM

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quickly does anyone know which doors spawn what in R7D2?

past mesa Jul 20, 2022, 5:18 AM

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stone dirge quickly does anyone know which doors spawn what in R7D2?

(hybrid blood door),212 shadow, 213 charger,(hybrid blood door) 216 tank 217, mom

stone dirge Jul 20, 2022, 5:23 AM

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Yep figured that out

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Thx anyway

fierce field Jul 20, 2022, 6:29 AM

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Whats everyone's opinion on the new precision rifle? I think it would be a more attractive choice if it had a (slightly) higher crit multiplier to increase its viability vs big strikers, etc

noble sierra Jul 20, 2022, 6:38 AM

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That's the opposite buff you want if you thing giant striker is the pain point of PR.

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Giant striker's head breaks too soon that for most weapons body damage matters much more against giants.

fierce field Jul 20, 2022, 6:49 AM

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Giant striker heads will pop in 1 shot from PR regardless of crit multiplier. So getting as much damage in that first shot would help some I think.

minor fractal Jul 20, 2022, 6:52 AM

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fierce field Whats everyone's opinion on the new precision rifle? I think it would be a more ...

Not its job, so I think it's fine personally.

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More crit just serves to boost its boss damage.

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It's a p fun revolver variant.

fierce field Jul 20, 2022, 7:01 AM

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Revolver doesn't seem like a very popular weapon either. Reserves aren't quite high enough to clear waves, and damage/range isn't enough to take down giants fast or snipe targets. But it is quite good at point blank scout killing cause it's rof is insane.

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:05 AM

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Revolver is supposed to be a small grinder if you can aim (except chargers)

mossy aurora Jul 20, 2022, 7:05 AM

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reason why its not very popular is most people cant aim

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:06 AM

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would love to see it get to 15.01 but it might be too good of stagger for giants

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:06 AM

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mossy aurora reason why its not very popular is most people cant aim

👆

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at least it isn't people refusing to believe me that precision rifle is basically revolver but different

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:08 AM

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soft crater at least it isn't people refusing to believe me that precision rifle is basicall...

unfortunately same with choke mod / High caliber

fierce field Jul 20, 2022, 7:10 AM

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What is the role of the revolver? What does it excel at? Ive really only used it once or twice.

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:10 AM

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revolver typically 1 shot = 1 striker or shooter kill

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:10 AM

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if were getting very specific striker killer

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:10 AM

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while you can still rapid fire it into giants

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recoil shouldn't be as bad as it was before.

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:11 AM

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Hipfire made it fine for bursting giants prebuff anyways

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:12 AM

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ye

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:12 AM

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it's downfall is late rundown chargers really

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:12 AM

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:c

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KleeAngry

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:12 AM

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It's supposed to be the small killer but chargers just say fuck you

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:13 AM

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3 shots to kill a single charger

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unless you get them from back bonus

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:14 AM

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not too terribly anymore, leaves them with about 2 hp can finish off them with more primaries than just the hel revo

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:14 AM

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ye

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2 shots from most full-auto weapons basically

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:15 AM

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fierce field What is the role of the revolver? What does it excel at? Ive really only used it...

waveclear

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with its nutty reload cancel, revolver's uptime is very good

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:16 AM

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gotta high noon 6 smalls

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6 shots 6 kills

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:17 AM

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only thing I really hate about revolver is its terrible light

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:17 AM

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ah yes

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:17 AM

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its damage is tuned to be just short of the charger 2shot threshold, which feels deliberate

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:17 AM

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the flashlight thats worse than your headlamp

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:18 AM

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they put chargers all over the place in r7, and didn't hand us a special that deals with them anywhere near as handily as the hel weaponry we had in r5/r6

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:18 AM

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iirc revo/smg/pump are the only guns with that light

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:18 AM

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silver fable its damage is tuned to be just short of the charger 2shot threshold, which feels...

it's definitely deliberate, 15 makes it so that it can break limbs on bigs

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:19 AM

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while it's precision bonus lets it have just enough to oneshotheadshot smalls

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:20 AM

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weary mesa it's definitely deliberate, 15 makes it so that it can break limbs on bigs

that's a detail I missed

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it's also an awkward detail when it comes to balancing damage

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:21 AM

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:/

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:21 AM

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like, "enough to 2shot chargers but not enough to 1shot limb break bigs" feels like valuable balancing territory

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:22 AM

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limb breakage multi

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idk

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:22 AM

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nah, just push limb break hp to 20

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:22 AM

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that would affect the HAR

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:22 AM

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as it should

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HAR shouldn't be great into bigs

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I guess it'd affect spear though

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:24 AM

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slaps spear away

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I only know Hammer

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miss my maul

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qwq

mossy aurora Jul 20, 2022, 7:24 AM

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Did hel gun 1 shot giant limbs?

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:24 AM

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emoji_7

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pretty sure it did

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16 or so dmg

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16.25

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hel gun just too good and idk if we'll ever experience it in the same glory ever again

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:26 AM

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hopefully not

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:26 AM

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I never really understood why hel gun got to be the gun that 2shots chargers

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I guess it's so that it can overshadow revolver and choke shotty at the same time, even before you factor in overpen

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:27 AM

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pen is broken in horde shooter games

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Don't know why they'd ever add it to a "hardcore" one

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:27 AM

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sniper's hollow points kek

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:28 AM

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they could rein it in

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:28 AM

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weary mesa Don't know why they'd ever add it to a "hardcore" one

positive it's because back then several people wanted them

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:28 AM

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reduce ammo efficiency to a point where you need the overpens to get ahead on ammo

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:28 AM

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or complained why sniper doesn't pen

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:28 AM

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similar deal with killing power per clip

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reduce damage per pen'd enemy by some fraction

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:30 AM

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I thought the R3 variant of the gun was busted

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but no else did

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:30 AM

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e.g. I think hel revo would play well with the base damage inflicted to the second enemy struck with the bullet reduced to 50%

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:30 AM

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but that was because you had to think when using it

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:31 AM

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I think there's thoughtful play to be found in getting funnel clears

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it's just been too much with how they've tuned the guns, and the baseline when you don't get those funnels has been too good for the specials

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:32 AM

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wish they would make it so that enemies would take two approaches rather than one

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So they could remove the global door break cooldown and make scans harder

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:33 AM

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They should fix the global door break cooldown by removing it, yeah

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strikers breaking down the east door shouldn't slow down strikers breaking down the north door

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it's stupid

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:33 AM

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increasing wave size would make it so it's not too easy when they split

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:34 AM

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increasing wave size could be a way to go, but it makes people anxious about performance

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:35 AM

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I feel like tiles do more with performance than enemies in my experience

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:35 AM

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AbigailMelting

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:35 AM

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wrt wave size, I think I'm eventually going to duo r7

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:35 AM

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weary mesa I feel like tiles do more with performance than enemies in my experience

Me whenever a pub with a low performo pc/lappy crashes from scout swarm

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:35 AM

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which shouldn't be possible

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:35 AM

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AbigailMelting

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:36 AM

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and I think that comes down to wave holds being easy enough to solo

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:37 AM

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it's be nice for an ai rework so that door manipulation isn't as good

soft crater Jul 20, 2022, 7:37 AM

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Fix bots getting stuck on ladders when they're also moving obj items

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 7:37 AM

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I don't think I'll need door reroutes or anything like that to duo r7

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 7:40 AM

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You don't need to do it really ever unless someone goes down, and that's already 💀

craggy pier Jul 20, 2022, 9:01 AM

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i mean chargers are just a badly designed enemy

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regular strikers have like 3 stances which makes pen not very easy

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chargers only have 1 and they barely strafe in big numbers, no head multi so you're forced to bodyshot and guess what

weapons that pen relies on bodyshots

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literally r5 moment

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yea bro let's spam giants and chargers but at the same time have hel rifle/gun

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 9:36 AM

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Wow every enemy besides small shooter, striker, and shadow giant are bad

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thenboom

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 9:45 AM

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silver fable only thing I really hate about revolver is its terrible light

Tbf it's a W because you can light up rooms without alerting enemies
They only wake when you aim at them with the gun, not the flashlight

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 9:46 AM

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...yeah, I think I'd prefer a better light

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(can't tell if you're joking)

craggy pier Jul 20, 2022, 9:47 AM

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Wow point flew over

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thenboom

weary mesa Jul 20, 2022, 9:48 AM

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Sorry I put words into your mouth, I’ll stop that PirateSimon

craggy pier Jul 20, 2022, 9:51 AM

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stop doing that man, not cool

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 9:57 AM

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silver fable ...yeah, I think I'd prefer a better light

Im not
I know the torch is facing the left instead of the usual but you got a headlamp and special weapon's lamp
And if you ADS with the hel revo then its flashlight works perfectly

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 9:57 AM

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oh I'm talking about the special revolver

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hel revo's light is great

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weirdness with it being lopsided to the left in r7 aside

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 9:59 AM

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Well I never used special one so no comment 😅

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Is it worth to leave behind giants that are stacked? I think it's a waste of ammo/foam and otherwise dangerous

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:00 AM

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also I think it's likely that, despite hel revo's light being fucked up and skewed to the left, it probably still logically points directly ahead for mechanical purposes (such as waking up sleepers)

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:00 AM

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silver fable also I think it's likely that, despite hel revo's light being fucked up and skew...

That's what I mean

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:01 AM

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ah, reread, I think I get you

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:01 AM

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fair fulcrum Is it worth to leave behind giants that are stacked? I think it's a waste of amm...

where are you leaving giants stacked?

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there's no general rule

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if you need to do an alarm or something in a room that's full of giants then obv. you need to clear them

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if not, sure, save your ammo

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figure out what you need to do in the level and act accordingly

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:04 AM

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silver fable where are you leaving giants stacked?

In a room I abandon

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C1

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Zone 23 where I turn off the fog

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:04 AM

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you can leave the zone 23 giants to sleep, sure

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:04 AM

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Because theres like 4

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And i only got so much sniper ammo

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:05 AM

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there's res in there, and the scouts can be delicate, so I usually just shrug and clear them

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or most of them

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:05 AM

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Oh scouts I clap np

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:05 AM

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I'm not stealthing all the way through to F, then all the way back, through multiple giants and scouts

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:05 AM

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I got more comfortable after watching a guide and reading

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And I realized hammer is the perfect tool for me

gaunt belfry Jul 20, 2022, 10:06 AM

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hey guys! any tips on how to beat b1? like what specific guns to use and sentries or c foam?

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:06 AM

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gaunt belfry hey guys! any tips on how to beat b1? like what specific guns to use and sentrie...

Scaler has a guide which I more-or-less endorse

gaunt belfry Jul 20, 2022, 10:07 AM

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silver fable Scaler has a guide which I more-or-less endorse

youtube?

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:07 AM

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ya

gaunt belfry Jul 20, 2022, 10:07 AM

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ok thanks!

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:07 AM

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any guns should work, though there aren't enough bigs to warrant a sniper

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:07 AM

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Whats b1 like? I forgor

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:07 AM

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bio + triple sentry is kinda the "meta"

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:07 AM

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O wait the gardens

gaunt belfry Jul 20, 2022, 10:07 AM

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silver fable bio + triple sentry is kinda the "meta"

i see

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:07 AM

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And stuff

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:08 AM

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b1 has some cheap spawns that kinda disrespect mine+foam planning

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:08 AM

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With final being floaters

gaunt belfry Jul 20, 2022, 10:08 AM

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silver fable b1 has some cheap spawns that kinda disrespect mine+foam planning

so true

gaunt belfry Jul 20, 2022, 10:08 AM

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fair fulcrum With final being floaters

yeah the floaters

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:08 AM

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We did it with mine, foam, sentry and bio anyway kek

gaunt belfry Jul 20, 2022, 10:08 AM

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fair fulcrum We did it with mine, foam, sentry and bio anyway kek

damn

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:08 AM

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We just thought we were bad

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:08 AM

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cfoam and mines are still good in r7, just don't bother with them in b1

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:09 AM

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B3 was a lot hardee

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We tried like 15 Times if not more

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With double sentry setup

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1 sniper 1 burst but saving sniper for 3rd data cube

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And for later

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:10 AM

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was trying to duo C1 yesterday and we kept wiping on the S1 scan trying different tool setups but then found cfoam and mine actually made it a lot easier than sentries

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:11 AM

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latent obsidian was trying to duo C1 yesterday and we kept wiping on the S1 scan trying differen...

Me and a friend use double sentry + mine

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We clear it easily

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:11 AM

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duo tho

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:11 AM

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Same

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:11 AM

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how do you have double sentry and mine

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with 2 people?

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:11 AM

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Bots

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:11 AM

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I mean without bots

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:11 AM

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"duo" by default means without bots, ya

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:11 AM

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Oh

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:12 AM

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latent obsidian was trying to duo C1 yesterday and we kept wiping on the S1 scan trying differen...

sniper sentry + burst sentry worked for me

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:12 AM

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Well even without mines we would still clear it

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I believe so

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:12 AM

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We tried double sniper and double burst but we were getting wrecked by the initial giants

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Maybe we didn't put them in the best spots

vital sierra Jul 20, 2022, 10:12 AM

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bring a sniper

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:12 AM

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the giants might be a problem with gun selection

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sniper could work

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:13 AM

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Double burst
One goes on the stacked boxes in front of the scan

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:13 AM

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I switched to MG in the end which helped, rather than choke mod

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:13 AM

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but we did pump shotty + deagle

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:13 AM

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And one on the opposite side on the shelf

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:13 AM

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seeing as there are quite some littles too

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:13 AM

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tried choke mod, but I found we gave up too much waveclear with choke

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:13 AM

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I was just reloading non stop with choke mod

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and can't clear enough, yeah

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:14 AM

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My friend used auto shotgun or smg and maybe revolver

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I bring hel revo and sniper, too many giants

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:14 AM

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latent obsidian I was just reloading non stop with choke mod

it is a very needy weapon

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:15 AM

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Feels like you definitely need sniper for c1

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:15 AM

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hard to justify in duos

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:15 AM

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Even if only for the first scan

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:16 AM

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I've not really enjoyed using the MG much but perhaps I hadn't given it a fair shot. I really liked it running it on C1 yday

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:16 AM

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fair fulcrum Feels like you definitely need sniper for c1

"definitely" is putting it strongly, multiple people have duo'd c1 without it

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:16 AM

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latent obsidian I've not really enjoyed using the MG much but perhaps I hadn't given it a fair s...

I guess it depends on what you're getting done with MG

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personally I find I need sharper stagger potential on bigs and snatcher

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:17 AM

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Yeah I was using choke mod before cos I like it for staggering the snatchers but we weren't even making it to that point

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We barely failed to clear the glp section but should be able to get past there next time

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Then I'll see how the MG holds up for the end

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:18 AM

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I didn't mind choke for the S scan

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:18 AM

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Im having trouble with the second part of c1
Where you collect gls
It's me, a friend and 2 bots
Bio + mine + 2 bursts
After reaching the last zone we get wiped

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:18 AM

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what main do you use? (fnr)

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:18 AM

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but something went awry during GLPs, and then choke's reload and clip size just proved too crippling

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not to mention shotgun sway bug, which choke also has

floral acorn Jul 20, 2022, 10:19 AM

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u don't have to do the full path necessarily, 14 15 16 fex

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:19 AM

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have you ever lost a quarter of your clip in a clutch situation to sway bug?

vital sierra Jul 20, 2022, 10:19 AM

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fair fulcrum Im having trouble with the second part of c1 Where you collect gls It's me, a fr...

you could plug 2 cell in 14 and 17

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:19 AM

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Switching to chokemod and shooting the floor then getting hit by the striker I wanted to blow up sucks

vital sierra Jul 20, 2022, 10:19 AM

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that way, you have both door fully scan and open

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the last cell can be used on either 15 or 18

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:20 AM

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latent obsidian what main do you use? (fnr)

hel revo

floral acorn Jul 20, 2022, 10:20 AM

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u can even scan the doors and not open before all ready for error

vital sierra Jul 20, 2022, 10:20 AM

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yes

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that's what i prefer to do

fair fulcrum Jul 20, 2022, 10:20 AM

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Alright

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:20 AM

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I was trying dmr to kill the S1 wave as early as possible and didn't mind that. But then I'm feeling the pain more when they are on me

vital sierra Jul 20, 2022, 10:20 AM

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you have 2 doors ready to open at anytime

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:20 AM

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I have been hel revo + deagle for a... depressingly large amount of levels in r7

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for duos, anyway

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in 4man I can bring more focused guns

latent obsidian Jul 20, 2022, 10:21 AM

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deagle is revo or HCP?

silver fable Jul 20, 2022, 10:21 AM

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but I kinda miss being able to bring like 3 specials in different levels in r6