#gtfo-related-questions
blissful sun
dry pumice
From meta sense I know there's a secondary because I can see it on rundown mission preview.
Based on this I can actively go out my way to search both the hub and the key. Sort of get it.
How do prisoners know? This can't be like a pre-implanted knowledge. Because in R7C2 the secondary is born out of sheer accident when we get wooshed. That can't be right, unless Warden has premonition power.
For R6C3, specifically, the only correct procedure seems to be:
- I look at rundown screen
- I see there's a secondary
- I spend every living moment during main trying to specifically go out of my way to find the secondary hub / key, open the door and get inside and only then the Warden has a genius idea to tell me "oh yeah, I need that, actually"
viscid wolf
gregory
feral anvil
Have you heard of amongus gregory
supple sleet
blissful sun
secondary objectives seem to be given to you at a real time basis
Warden tracks your position at all times after all.
silver fable
From meta sense *I know* there's a secondary because I can see it on rundown mis...
I can't give you a definitive lore reason for why the prisoners would know to do optionals, or actively seek them out. Let's let go of that for a bit.
supple sleet
i mean the rest of the expeditions arent even canon
tardy ingot
Its simple, warden gives them objectives
they feel obliged to do objectives for the warden by their programming
blissful sun
The prisoners are the legion program they're basically programmed to follow all commands as the interface you see in game is technically implanted into them
tardy ingot
i mean the rest of the expeditions arent even canon
?
silver fable
If you're setting out to do secondary (which, yes, you'd do because you saw it on the rundown screen and thought "hey I want to try secondary"), if you don't know where the secondary bulkhead DC is, you could start by LISTing bulkhead DCs
tardy ingot
non priority expeditions are still canon lol
verbal surge
How do people feel about the PDW? What's the best use and niche for it? I mainly run Assault Rifle and Hel Revolver and I just can't get a feel for the PDW but I've heard people say it's good
dry pumice
Alright, I think this is now just an issue of lore / gameplay discrepancy.
silver fable
e.g. LIST BULKHEAD
blissful sun
PDW is just a fancy smg
tardy ingot
a fancy, better insanely strong smg
blissful sun
does the same damage no?
dry pumice
I, the player, know there's a secondary and can go after it.
blissful sun
has 8 less mag
tardy ingot
Alright, I think this is now just an issue of lore / gameplay discrepancy.
it rly isnt ._.
past mesa
does the same damage no?
pdw does more dmg faster reload and faster shooting
silver fable
you can then e.g. QUERY BULKHEAD_DC_234 to find out which zone the DC is in.
dry pumice
The prisoners, canonically, just stumble into it. All of them.
tardy ingot
the prisoners litteraly get infos from the warden and also use terminals
blissful sun
ah coolio
dry pumice
Why would they do that.
blissful sun
HEL and DMR are still my favourite
tardy ingot
because its info gathering???
they are in a situation where every information can safe their god damn ass
dry pumice
Hm. Unless they are "the only thing I know for real" types.
tardy ingot
???
dry pumice
Not getting that vibe from them though, but who knows...
I guess that should be the asnwer for now.
tardy ingot
locating a key IS A BASIC REQUIREMENT for B1
The prisoners wont open both doors because they also CHECK ON IT
blissful sun
they literally get told to query the key by the warden
the little message you see is from the warden.
supple sleet
just go up to a bulkhead door and youll get a message to query a bulkhead key
dry pumice
locating a key IS A BASIC REQUIREMENT for B1
The prisoners wont open both doors ...
It wasn't for R6C3, if I believe correctly.
tardy ingot
hell schaeffers logs on terminals in all levels they are in (and other characters aswell) are god damn canon
dry pumice
Maybe?...
tardy ingot
It wasn't for R6C3, if I believe correctly.
... dude
silver fable
It wasn't for R6C3, if I believe correctly.
you need bulkhead key for main
silver fable
first thing you do in r6c3 is go through a blood door, then up and to the left, to a zone with a bulkhead key
supple sleet
silver fable
which you get and then go down and to the right to the main+overload bulkhead dc room
tardy ingot
they would use a terminal to find out where to find stuff. if the warden does NOT tell them where it is. But the warden even tells them which zones open when you go into secondary
and they go into secondary because the warden told them that there is an extra objective to do while they do the main thing they are there for.
dry pumice
- Deploy.
- Find Main door.
- Needs a key.
- Get told to query keys.
- Notice there's multiple keys.
- Maybe try to find others if you have a moment.
dry pumice
I guess we narrowed down the issue to understanding why would the squad go out of their way to find more horrible ways to die, but that's a lore issue now.
tardy ingot
I guess we narrowed down the issue to understanding why would the squad go out o...
again...
the prisoners are forced to do it with their programming
tardy ingot
also (this might not be true) they are 100% successful in their expeditions iirc
desert falcon
You can see henrikson
If you tell me his first name you get 1 point
tardy ingot
lore people might know more about this than me
tardy ingot
nah
dry pumice
They are 50 shades of dead
neon gust
If you tell me his first name you get 1 point
Kekw i dunno i dont pay attention to the lore
tardy ingot
many people skilled enough first try PE level
neon gust
I just shoot spooky monsters
I do remember something in french
But he aint a hacker
Hes an engineer
desert falcon
Kekw i dunno i dont pay attention to the lore
-1 point, hope you can live with that 
neon gust
Cuz nobody calls itself a fucking hacker
tardy ingot
itself o.O
dry pumice
Was it John? It was something generic.
desert falcon
Klas
dry pumice
Not generic at all.
tardy ingot
not generic for your country possibly lol
dry pumice
-9000 points to Griffindor.
tardy ingot
john is not a common name in my country for example 
dry pumice
Me, a russian, calling John a generic name.
What a brain.
Literally 0 Johns
No actually there is one
Papa John
desert falcon
Whats a common name in Russia?
dry pumice
Vasiliy.
Genadiy.
Dmitriy.
Artyom should be one, but I honestly don't meet that many.
I work at IT support so I hear names all day.
desert falcon
can't say I heard Genadiy before, sounds nice
dry pumice
Oleg is another one.
viscid wolf
vlad
dry pumice
That's just short of Vladimir is it not?
But yes, thats common too.
Anyway, I must get going or ill get stuck in this shop forever, see ya in a hour.
neon gust
-1 point, hope you can live with that <:PirateSimon:621817514388750377>
I cant, im died two times
desert falcon
Damn 😦
desert falcon
You're welcome 🙂
short bluff
Any good content creators I should watch for learning GTFO?
floral acorn
professor scaler, black dragon, the real khepri
(in no ranked order, love all of em mwah)
soft crater
Khepri quit gtfo tho didnt he
floral acorn
oh, and rawr chicken nuggies fo sho
short bluff
Thank you!
icy cave
Well he should still have good videos up so eh
he has some very good ones even
analog cipher
how to get maul/sledgehammer skins?
noble sierra
Not officially supported.
analog cipher
oh
soft crater
how to get maul/sledgehammer skins?
Those are old Hammer cosmetics prior to Rundown 6.
lost radish
i forgot but what are overload sectors?
lost radish
oh so they arent harder than regular secondary sectors?
topaz anvil
They are meant to be, or they impact a level in a more significant way
Which overload has caught your eye
lost radish
I havent played much since the new rundown so the only one I can do is C3 and I want to try it since I dont really remember them from the last rundown.
topaz anvil
C3 overload is pretty brutal compared to secondary
lost radish
how so
topaz anvil
Similar to why C2 overload is brutal, if you do it the supposedly intended way
lost radish
so is it worse than C3?
topaz anvil
No
It's a bit unfair to compare b3 and C3, since their agendas against you are very different
lost radish
if its a new enemy no
topaz anvil
Gonna be honest, idk what you discover by this point, as well as what enemies you already know
lost radish
ive been thru a1, b1, c1, and b2
the newest enemy ive seen was the charging dude
nothing else extremely new except i heard schaeffer talk about a due that kidnapped his dead body and it had tentacles
topaz anvil
The one that steals you?
lost radish
ye
topaz anvil
In regards to "charging dude"
lost radish
yes
topaz anvil
Ok
past mesa
you should be able to do b3 overload
topaz anvil
God i love how creative this community is with enemy names
lost radish
is the tentacle dude that schaeffer was talking about the same one im talking about?
topaz anvil
Yes
lost radish
oh ok
his description was weird
yeah it gets so confusing playing with different people because they all call everything different names
topaz anvil
How so
topaz anvil
you should be able to do b3 overload
With competent teammates
lost radish
like they called a regular big dude a charger and I was so confused what they were talking about
lost radish
question
topaz anvil
bigs, giants, titans all for the big striker
Naw my internet went fucky so I actually sent it for "his description is weird"
lost radish
whats the name of the dude that has pussballs on his back
past mesa
father
lost radish
Naw my internet went fucky so I actually sent it for "his description is weird"
its cuz shcaeffer described it more tentacaly than it is
ive only seen him like once does he show up anymore?
topaz anvil
its cuz shcaeffer described it more tentacaly than it is
I mean.... The snatcher has a very significant amount of tentacles
lost radish
im talking about tank when im asking if he shows up again
lost radish
I mean.... The snatcher has a very significant amount of tentacles
i was to busy running away and screaming to notice
my biggest flex is that ive never been caught by a snatcher
topaz anvil
Tank shows up in a couple of levels
topaz anvil
He's annoying solo
lost radish
well yeah but thats cuz he physically wont turn around
topaz anvil
You should have seen him back in r4 when everyone was still new to the tank
past mesa
you can shoot him from the front it is just sometimes annoying
minor fractal
The solo strat is usually to get above him.
lost radish
and who is psychotic enough to play anything higher than A1 solo?
topaz anvil
Tnenpi
minor fractal
Because he leans forward you can lure him close and hit the tumors from above.
B1 solo isn't that bad tbh.
topaz anvil
Because he leans forward you can lure him close and hit the tumors from above.
Bring burst cannon :^)
topaz anvil
I'm still mad that people think we need every enemy by B tier
past mesa
B1 solo isn't that bad tbh.
solo b1 is pretty nice not the best solo level i dont like baby sitting the baby
icy nacelle
solo b1 is pretty nice not the best solo level i dont like baby sitting the baby
I was doing it the other day just to get a couple of boosters so I could reset the heat on other levels and since I was only planning on doing that I left the baby at the start. Then I got all the way to the end and said "Screw it, I should probably finish this" and had to run alllllll the way back to grab it. 
lost radish
thank you guys for the help
past mesa
I was doing it the other day just to get a couple of boosters so I could reset t...
did this in a d1 overload run very funny
icy nacelle
That certainly sounds like fun.
noble sierra
It's pretty short distance for d1, though.
icy nacelle
I assume the issue is more the Overload stuff unless that was cheesed. 👀
noble sierra
Probably even less than one wave.
icy nacelle
But any situation where you suddenly realise that you have to go back and carry something is just "Oh goddamnit". Nothing is more entertaining than turning and seeing the dedicated mule on the team not carrying the item.
soft crater
"Drake. Where is the Baby?"
neon gust
less go
native lantern
vital hawk
hello, do mothers spawn endlessly during hordes in the terminal event in D1? or is it a one time only thing
noble sierra
Mother will keep spawn babies if you leaver her alive, but how come you'd let the mother alive to the terminal event.
vital sierra
there is a mother?
dry pumice
hello, do mothers spawn endlessly during hordes in the terminal event in D1? or ...
There shouldn't be any mothers during the waves themselves
There are 2 mothers in mandatory stealth rooms that you shouldn't wake up
dry pumice
Either that or you awoke sleeping mothers
vital sierra
the wave could have woken them up
dry pumice
And they came for you
noble sierra
So do you open the Z205 door?
vital hawk
uh i forgot if this time around we went through the mother rooms or the tank room for the key
dry pumice
there are no tanks in D1, is there?
vital sierra
there are no tanks in D1, is there?
there is
when you try to lower the class X on the bridge alarm to class V
the second class X
vital hawk
wait did u guys just do double class x?
cunning plank
Yeah its fucking awful
dry pumice
But we had no choice because we didn't know how to reduce it to V
vital hawk
yeah i hate that shit but i hate it less than error alarms
dry pumice
We tried, but just cant find the goddamn terminal
weary mesa
I don't know if it's a bug or not but my buddy also had a mother as a punishment wave when missing 3 sequences
median crest
hey y’all i’ve been looking for a while cause i’ve been stuck on C2 for a bit but the general problem i think is happening is as a group we’re burning up too much ammo by the time we get all the battery cells back, so im thinking maybe trying to run 3 sentry’s and one mine deployer, thoughts?
minor fractal
hey y’all i’ve been looking for a while cause i’ve been stuck on C2 for a bit bu...
More sentries just eats tool faster.
What objectives, as well?
vital sierra
feel like main
median crest
trying to shoot for PE now that i’ve seen most of that level now
minor fractal
trying to shoot for PE now that i’ve seen most of that level now
You should really have a foam launcher.
Permafoam is also really strong for conserving ammo.
Specifically on the second init.
median crest
permafoam? for like scouts?
vital sierra
on door
median crest
ahh gotcha, like combining that with mines?
vital sierra
you foam the door constantly so basically use tool over ammo
vital sierra
ahh gotcha, like combining that with mines?
ye, you could put 1 mine there
when you finished scanning, the mine can kill a bunch of enemy
minor fractal
ahh gotcha, like combining that with mines?
Permafoam is when you c-foam a door and keep it in the foamed state for an indefinite period.
Mine kills them after, ofc.
median crest
okay cool! oh wait i think i just watched one of your videos @vital sierra appreciate the tips😂🙏i’ve been stuck on C2 so long it’s got me looking up videos
vital sierra
i'm trying to make c2 video
but it need to be more interesting to watch
if you want, you can check Randomkenny steam guide
he has all the maps if you want to plan it yourself
median crest
Nah man love the videos, they’ve actually helped quite a bit thanks a bunch🙏
vital sierra
tardy ingot
You should really have a foam launcher.
i mean it has its uses (helping a bit with overload stealth and the 2nd init) but is it really worth over a 2nd sentry (considering that this makes the overload scan a lot easier)
From my experience you have enough tool with 2 sentrys 
Obviously if people struggle with cscouts thats a whole other thing
vital sierra
if you're not confident with charger scout
bring c foam launcher and go solo it
great way to build confident
topaz anvil
but it need to be more interesting to watch
C2 is always interesting so its fine
median crest
love the name lmao
minor fractal
i mean it has its uses (helping a bit with overload stealth and the 2nd init) bu...
No shot they're going to be killing cscouts dry no problem.
tardy ingot
well 
golden pawn
aye ive been in this game for about a hour or two and the mission reqires me to get cells and put them in genorators to unlock doors. I have used every single cell (4) on 4 of the doors but I need to get 2 more and i fr dont think there are any more, any tips?
im just tryna finnish and go to bed so any help will be appriciated
golden pawn
nah its c1
minor fractal
aye ive been in this game for about a hour or two and the mission reqires me to ...
You only need 4 cells, and it's not possible to soft-lock yourself.
Where are you running into trouble?
Missing GLPs, can't find extract, etc.
minor fractal
How many GLPs do you have?
golden pawn
glp?
minor fractal
In the top left, there's an objective.
You need to do that.
You do not need to open all of the doors.
minor fractal
LIST GLP ZONE_14
golden pawn
alr one sec
minor fractal
Do it for all 3 zones you opened.
minor fractal
Np
remote crater
best way to kill thedang puncer is?
topaz anvil
Shooting it
topaz anvil
What the run to extract
topaz anvil
Not the last part sadly
remote crater
what tools 2 sentry or
topaz anvil
1 is enough, but bio and foam are your bigger friends in c1, especially when you finish
topaz anvil
Because you'll be running for your life
remote crater
ive plaued it like a few times n have yet to complete it due to trolls and just randoms being very not into playing the game more so just ruing runs lol
tardy ingot
1 is enough, but bio and foam are your bigger friends in c1, especially when you...
cfoam honestly doesnt do that much lol
topaz anvil
It does more than that
tardy ingot
double sentry (1 sniper sentry at least), bio and mines work perfectly fine
Means you can solo hold the glps with sentrys, can mine + sentry the scan and sentrys for the thunderdome. Then mines for extract run
topaz anvil
You can effectively permafoam the door to extract, leaving you covered in the dead end
icy cave
D4rk is right, ditch the c foam
tardy ingot
d4rk hm 
but yeah, you need a ton of foam for that
also not advisable with snatcher bug
topaz anvil
You need 2 doors worth
tardy ingot
it can insta break the door
2 doors (18 blobs) arent even close to enough for perma foaming that
unless you already mined the other doors
in which case, just dont foam but mine that one aswell
topaz anvil
If you were smart and closed doors behind you, its long enough to get the scan to nearly complete before it breaks
tardy ingot
but yeah. Cfoam isnt advisable with how snatchers can insta gib doors
topaz anvil
Never seen it insta yoink them doors
tardy ingot
If you were smart and closed doors behind you, its long enough to get the scan t...
i mean… you dont need cfoam then?
it litteraly has next to no use in any other part and is barely helping there
tardy ingot
Never seen it insta yoink them doors
had it happen to me twice and seen it one stream there exactly for c1
blowing up on a fully foamed door crashing isnt fun (yet still funny)
C2 foam -> understandable, makes 2nd init easy and helps with c scouts
C1 foam? Eh
noble sierra
C1 foam is fine, I like it more than 2 sentries. Ofc it's not necessity but it's like no tool is a must.
tardy ingot
Well yeah
But i wouldnt advice cfoam for a clear when people struggle
Especially since most people struggle with surviving all 4 of the parts (s scan, glp hunt, thunderdome, extract run) and if they die at extract its due to lack of ressources (which can be helped immensily by the right hold for s scan and glp hunt imo)
vital sierra
c foam is fine on C1
first S1 scan can prevent enemy for like 30% of the scan
enemy respawn almost instantly after you kill
you could ditch the mine
or you could use it to stun the snatcher/pouncer
there are many ways to play C1, just find the right tool for your own team
topaz anvil
nO, ThErE's oNlY 1 rIghT wAy tO pLaY thiS gAmE
silver fable
the correct way is to duo it with burst sentry + sniper sentry
wait no the correct way is to solo it with shooter cap
topaz anvil
Correct way is to not play c1 and instead play C2
vital sierra
i have a video in #guides-and-reviews , so basically, choose your fighter
latent obsidian
correct way is 3 sniper one bio because snipers is cracked 🥴
vital sierra
i only use shotgun sentry now
silver fable
seriously though I've duo'd it with burst sentry + sniper sentry, worked well
vital sierra
silver fable
any other tools you bring are just extra after that
silver fable
cfoam on floor in front of S scan could be okay
noble sierra
Shotgun sentry back damage busted.
silver fable
I don't think you want to cfoam doors without mines for that scan
tardy ingot
cfoam on floor in front of S scan could be okay
Giants eat foam for breakfast
silver fable
you'l just get swamped
vital sierra
you could basically use shotgun sentry and put behind door
it will damage, or kill enemy behind door
you just need to predict which one spawn enemy
silver fable
Giants eat foam for breakfast
more thinking about the littles
vital sierra
tardy ingot
its also 4 spawn locations… so either you rng it or use a ton of ressources on rng
silver fable
also I said "okay", not "great"
tardy ingot
i mean i was just stating a fact and not saying its shit or smth 
That aside
hows the c3 duos coming along?
silver fable
hows the c3 duos coming along?
will probably make more attempts today
silver fable
c3pe feels like the hardest expedition in the rundown tbh
ahto might stream, kinda up to him
I cbf'd streaming
tardy ingot
Did you tell ahto about the skill issue when dying to waves
topaz anvil
Idk about c3pe tbh. Secondary is a bit meh, and Overload is only really stressful trying to get through the blood door
C2pe suffers from this as well
silver fable
lol, ahto has his fair share of picking my ass off the floor too
tardy ingot
silver fable
that's kinda just how duos go
tardy ingot
Idk about c3pe tbh. Secondary is a bit meh, and Overload is only really stressfu...
yeah
Once you are past the blood door its a lot more chill than main only even imo (well the double uplink stuff aside)
silver fable
i.e. they devolve into solo carries at a moment's notice
tardy ingot
that's kinda just how duos go
what? since when 
silver fable
lol, if I were to wait for the perfect-execution no-revive run for a duo to go through then I'd probably get far fewer clears
tardy ingot
I thougth it was 1 man dies and other does stuff
silver fable
C2pe suffers from this as well
already did the c2pe duo
topaz anvil
yeah
Once you are past the blood door its a lot more chill than main only even i...
Double uplink doesn't even spawn anything 
tardy ingot
i mean its mostly the annoyance of doing it 
silver fable
and yeah the c3 overload blood door is pretty stressful for duo
tardy ingot
and yeah the c3 overload blood door is pretty stressful for duo
this yea
silver fable
I think the problem for me and ahto with c3pe duo is that we don't really know the wave schedule well yet
oh also the spawns are fucked
tardy ingot
You using mines?
silver fable
like in r6c3 the spawns were reliably elevator-directed
tardy ingot
or saving one for the blood door?
silver fable
but my hel revo 😭
ahto has been maining pdw on everything lol
ditching bio and going double pdw might end up being the way
vital sierra
the melee section is kinda funny with bots
the bot can destroy a hybrid/giant on their own after you did the first hit
silver fable
the melee section is trivial, but tedious after a few runs
I've solo'd the melee section with knife
tardy ingot
so when we speedrunning c3 fn?
silver fable
otherwise it gets bogged down in sneaking around charger scouts to team-kill giants so they don't scream
and I scream internally throughout
silver fable
so when we speedrunning c3 fn?
I'll focus on the duo for now
but at some point sure
minor fractal
W8, do waves actually stop after 20 mins?
Have heard that
I feel like there's no shot.
vital sierra
i don't see the wave stop after 20 mins
in my c3 run, we even stand around waiting for the tank to spawn, kill it, and then walk to extraction
the wave still spawning but i don't know how much
silver fable
I thought someone said you get recurrent tank spawns after 20mins
can't confirm though
vital sierra
if the wave become smaller, that would encourage people to kite
tardy ingot
W8, do waves actually stop after 20 mins?
Yeah they do not
vital sierra
ye, just checked the footage, they still spawning...-ish?
yup, 100%
@topaz anvil did you hold AFTER the timer end in c3?
minor fractal
K, figures.
topaz anvil
<@194140960102416384> did you hold AFTER the timer end in c3?
We were about midway through second uplink when timer finished and a tank spawned
vital sierra
and did you hold after that and nothing spawn?
topaz anvil
Yes
minor fractal
W8, wtf, why would they just let the waves end?
vital sierra
so i guess the wave use some kind of reactor wave mechanic then
if you use c foam to slow the enemy down then they backup and then spawn later if that's the case
i would see it as a lore thing?
topaz anvil
It's likely either finishing the uplink fucked the error alarm up, or you were moving so fast you triggered extract alarm before you noticed
topaz anvil
Charger extraction
topaz anvil
Wtf
vital sierra
so, we finished everything, wait near the extraction (in zone 170), kill the tank and then walk to extraction
after we killed the tank, 1 of the prisoner said something about the wave spawning
so i think the uplink actually messed up the spawn
in my footage, we have a normal striker spawn
tardy ingot
I feel like finishing the overload uplink makes stuff not spawn for a bit? might be wrong
vital sierra
i could check
tardy ingot
would be nice to know
tardy ingot
cuz whenever i did overlod we had a massive pause after the charger spawn before we arrived
tardy ingot
infinite ♾️ 
vital sierra
ye, after you finish overload, i got a bunch of giant + giant charger spawn
and then after we clear that, nothing spawn
and then we have 1 minute of nothing spawning
AND THEN snatcher spawn
the wave only spawn when Henrikson start talking again
i got a single charger spawn on my second video
minor fractal
Okay, so looks like the post-20 waves are p easy.
vital sierra
so... then
minor fractal
So probably a legit strat to just hold out the hard waves and then start Overload near the end.
vital sierra
a new strat has appeared
stable osprey
So probably a legit strat to just hold out the hard waves and then start Overloa...
For how long?
stable osprey
Is this going to be a R6C3 thing where the timer finished and you get some small garbage waves and then it ramps up again?
stable osprey
20 minutes
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minor fractal
Is this going to be a R6C3 thing where the timer finished and you get some small...
Nothing seems to indicate that it ramps up, it's baby waves compared to other survive objectives from what I can tell.
minor fractal
Big dudes every 95 seconds about + secondary waves.
I can't tell how Secondary works, though.
stable osprey
Nothing seems to indicate that it ramps up, it's baby waves compared to other su...
Alright, might give it a try
topaz anvil
Wait secondary actually has a second secondary effect on main?
minor fractal
Wait secondary actually has a second secondary effect on main?
I'm like 90% there are no shadows if you skip Secondary.
vital sierra
hmmmm
feel like it's not in some way
if you want people to NOT see the shadow, you would turn the light ON
topaz anvil
Ya but secondary was all about shadows, so having shadows show up as a result of finishing secondary makes sense
You opened the door which they were locked behind
I'll try and do some testing with my team later
vital sierra
i mean the light going off part
spark wolf
all uplinks in the game so far have disabled any running waves
so this one probably does too
spark wolf
C3 probably has 1 wave that's an actual "alarm" and keeps going
which if that one is already started
it will get shut off
topaz anvil
😔
vital sierra
that's why you have no alarm @topaz anvil
topaz anvil
That's what i initially thought seeing this convo
The timing was a bit too convenient
vital sierra
then that's settle
topaz anvil
But what about the extract alarm, people are seeing different enemies
vital sierra
But what about the extract alarm, people are seeing different enemies
no
i saw striker because it was backup
so i have capped striker spawn, i think
that's why i didn't see a single charger at extraction
spark wolf
a bunch of the wave events probably spawn a couple waves
minor fractal
Actually, there might be a tank error.
minor fractal
I think I got caught up on alarms, but I think any wave w/out a population limit is infinite.
spark wolf
cuz the devs still havent changed how the uplinks work
topaz anvil
Unless the reward for finishing overload is an easier run back to extraction
vital sierra
nah
topaz anvil
Truely an R6D3 moment
minor fractal
cuz the devs still havent changed how the uplinks work
W8, uplinks cancel waves?
spark wolf
yes
noble sierra
Isn't C3pe has infinite snatcher wave + strikers + chargers after 20 mins timer?
dry pumice
Haven't seen a single snatcher
spark wolf
and it was very broken until ppl abused it somewhere in r4 and then they made it so you cant re-enter the last code
topaz anvil
I'm going to have to apologise to someone complaining that a 20 minute error is too long
spark wolf
but it still ends all waves when you finish the uplink
even if you can only do it once
topaz anvil
Since i rebuted saying that the error stops
But wait why does the wave not stop on the first uplink
spark wolf
its a spam of wave events
vital sierra
it did stop
spark wolf
only stops current
topaz anvil
My perception of time must be fucked then
spark wolf
MAYBE because that specific uplink doesnt spawn things it doesnt share this behaviour
but im pretty sure it still does
vital sierra
it did stop
minor fractal
This might explain why second uplink is usually pretty chill.
It looks like some of the late waves get queued up pretty early
and if you remove them it might be why there's just no enemies during second area.
topaz anvil
I don't seem to recall an increased length of time between waves, but maybe that's because both attempts of c3 reached the first uplink at the same timr
spark wolf
well theres probably some timings where it can make very little difference
vital sierra
checking videos, both uplink will stop current wave from spawning
minor fractal
Also, looks like you can get 1 snatcher every 200 seconds for up to 10 snatchers on one of the snatcher waves.
vital sierra
you will have about 1 minute of nothing spawning
feel like the wave spawn every minute
topaz anvil
Hard to tell because you spend 30 seconds clearing it
minor fractal
12.5 minutes (7.5 minutes remaining) appears to be the critical point if you want to cancel waves.
This is when the main pool for Striker waves for the final stretch starts.
topaz anvil
We personally get to first uplink with ~6 minutes left
Just before a snatcher arrives
minor fractal
So, if you complete first uplink after that, strikers should stop spawning until the end.
minor fractal
Oh, and there is an infinite striker wave.
Dunno, maybe they aren't cancelled?
Tbh it's been a minute since I've done the Overload.
Fireblade's run looks uber chill, though.
Which makes me think they cancelled a lot of waves.
topaz anvil
Probably a secret "disable_alarms" terminal somewhere:^)
spark wolf
its why they need a system to shut down specific alarms
vital sierra
and look at the entire map
spark wolf
cuz their level designers will just continue to make mistakes if it's like this
they wont remember that shit everytime
vital sierra
tell that when they're back from vacation
topaz anvil
The real mistake is still using uplinks in 2022
minor fractal
All waves need to have a flag that says if they can be disabled or not.
So that only the waves you actually want to be shut off can be shut off.
https://youtu.be/XwXO4pZPW9c?t=3165 Looks like they finish uplink right here.
Right after second-to-last striker wave (75 enemies over a long period).
Sure enough, strikers cease to exist.
minor fractal
That bug is actually really unfortunate.
noble sierra
On our team's first c3pe blind play, we thought we don't have to complete secondary since we had the bulkhead key. So we just tried to finished the rest of the level then come back to secondary but then found out there's a timer later. Anyway we completed overload then go back to secondary, there's still charger and normal striker wave and a snatcher regularly spawned.
vital sierra
then, that's mean, you finished overload fast enough for them to not be cancel
minor fractal
Yeah, I relooked and there's a bunch of error alarms.
Overload spawns chargers, Main spawns waves (and big dudes after long enough), snatchers, and even tanks on repeat.
topaz anvil
It plays surprisingly well into looking like a single alarm
silver fable
are they actually meant to be directed errors?
as in, are they meant to spawn from towards elevator?
silver fable
I'm hoping rayalot or someone actually has firmer info
I've seen some messed-up stuff with the spawns
minor fractal
Snatchers are actually not an error, it just spawns a fair amount of them.
minor fractal
as in, are they meant to spawn from towards elevator?
The final few waves are, yes.
I assume all of them.
Yeah, at a glance it looks like they're all supposed to be from the elevator.
neon gust
Hows that a cheese
minor fractal
Best cheesy strats appear to be waiting for 7:30 to do an uplink or wait until the timer is up to do uplink.
silver fable
Yeah, at a glance it looks like they're all supposed to be from the elevator.
hm, something's been breaking for my duo runs then
minor fractal
For the minimum amount of stuff.
silver fable
some spawns have just been on our faces
silver fable
some between us when we were both in bulkhead key zone
vital sierra
who would do such a thing
silver fable
some in 328 when we were in 328c and 328e, etc
silver fable
some ahead as we entered 329
minor fractal
hm, something's been breaking for my duo runs then
Probably same bug from R6.
Doesn't seem to be solveable w/out full restarting your game.
And seems to be related to session length.
silver fable
r6c3 spawns were very reliable for me
ah
so it's a spurious bug related to session length?
minor fractal
It used to happen w/ D3, I've seen it happen in modded too.
vital sierra
the wave shouldn't be spawning at elevator?
minor fractal
Yeah, p much.
Once it happens once, it keeps happening, too.
Seen it a lot on CX survival.
silver fable
ah k, ty for the info
minor fractal
the wave shouldn't be spawning at elevator?
It should be (direction of), but seems to be experiencing the usual between-waves issue.
vital sierra
if the wave spawn from the elevator in C3, it will cause some trouble, no?
dry pumice
Why?
distant ice
Dunno what the exact bug is but i doubt it's directly thanks to how long you're playing
dry pumice
Same extraction point or something?
distant ice
People thought foam bug was that
vital sierra
what break?
minor fractal
Dunno what the exact bug is but i doubt it's directly thanks to how long you're ...
Well, obv.
vital sierra
i haven't gotten that to happen
minor fractal
It seems like it's probably a low chance to break, but once it breaks it's permanent for the session.
vital sierra
man, i'm really lucky am i?
dry pumice
Had it happen twice now.
silver fable
if the wave spawn from the elevator in C3, it will cause some trouble, no?
"direction of elevator" and "from the elevator" are two different things
dry pumice
Common symptom : we triggered the scouts on our way back and checkpointed with scout waves present, trying to spawn alongside error alarm.
silver fable
pick a simple path between player and elevator, pick the room along the path that's exactly 2 rooms away from player, spawn there
noble sierra
^
bold atlas
supply efficiency is ammo or tool?
bold atlas
It just says supply efficiency
dry pumice
it probably tells you if you hover over it
Oh right, I keep forgetting that's a mechanic. Still haven't done it once.
Bad UI is bad.
bold atlas
so its both ammo and tool?
dry pumice
It just says supply efficiency
Theres a way to get detailed expiation on boosters but I have no idea how.
And yes, it's both.
bold atlas
Theres a way to get detailed expiation on boosters but I have no idea how.
And ...
ah ok thank you
inland vault
How viable is it to replace a biotracker by having everyone (or most people) in your squad run a weapon with thermal sights?
grizzled widget
How viable is it to replace a biotracker by having everyone (or most people) in ...
Depends on your tools
If you have 2+sentries with bio synthesis, then I'd say it is still worth it.
It provides a significant buff to sentries that have it
plucky otter
could anyone tell me how to find the 4th cell in C1?
this is the cell needed for door 18 when you are finding the GLP-2 canisters
grizzled widget
There are 4 in the same room
After the first alarm
When you backtrack, the start has two gens
Pick one
It's a choice
Of two different paths
plucky otter
ok we are backtracking to the cell room
plucky otter
no the one we found them in
grizzled widget
Ah
plucky otter
to see if theres a 4th cell
grizzled widget
Yeah if you only got 3 there should be a 4th hiding in there somewhere
plucky otter
ok gotcha thats what we are missing
we list cells and it doesnt show up
hence why we are confused
ruby wasp
what is the exact command you use ?
minor fractal
we list cells and it doesnt show up
Probably a double-ID?
minor fractal
This is apparently a recent issue with items having overlapping IDs very rarely.
plucky otter
what is the exact command you use ?
list
plucky otter
list cell
spark wolf
actually i think 13 is hub zone
ruby wasp
just to make sure it wasn't a typo
spark wolf
and then u have 14 to 16 or 17 to 19
so if u did both 14 and 17 u made it kinda harder for yourself
ruby wasp
Sometimes people type LIST CELLL or LIS CELL by mistake
plucky otter
it was only showing the 3 we found, minus the one in the generator so technically 2
plucky otter
so if u did both 14 and 17 u made it kinda harder for yourself
dont u have to do both
for all 9?
spark wolf
no you can just pick 1 path
grizzled widget
No
grizzled widget
Yep
ruby wasp
18 GLPs in total, 9 in each path
plucky otter
so in the room with double generators we only need to do one security door?
ruby wasp
yes
grizzled widget
Yes
plucky otter
ah
spark wolf
but if you already did the other too thats still fine
grizzled widget
You can use list with terminal to find loot and pick a path to go down
ruby wasp
Just so you know
plucky otter
and i assume both pathways require the 4th cell anyways right
ruby wasp
when something seems strange (in that case, 2 gens in a room)
try to list what's ahead
spark wolf
just make sure you get all 3 glp from everything you powered
plucky otter
ok
craggy pier
bruh, i completed D2 but i can't play E1 yet
ruby wasp
That's useful especially at the beginning of the level as well
plucky otter
thanks a lot guys
fickle mulch
bruh, i completed D2 but i can't play E1 yet
you have to complete all expeditions
ruby wasp
so you can figure out what the optional objectives are
fluid acorn
Is there a place to report missing cosmetics? I have an extra overload completion on C2 that I did not complete and once I did complete c2 overload I didn't receive a cosmetic for it. C2 overload was the final overload cosmetic unlock I needed to complete
minor fractal
Is there a place to report missing cosmetics? I have an extra overload completio...
Wym by an extra completion, and can you screenshot which cosmetic you're missing?'
fluid acorn
It's not a specific cosmetic I'm missing. It's just that the game counted C2 overload as being complete when it wasn't. This has bugged my unlocks to where I haven't received one "random" cosmetic unlock. Like r7 is supposed to give 15 total cosmetics, and I have received 13 so far (the 14th and final one is the mask for completing E1) Nevermind
icy nacelle
Just curious, how much +Melee Damage % would you need to be able to oneshot a Big Striker with either a Hammer or Spear?
median forge
Go for broke and get 80%
It’s enough to one shot a charger scout to the back certainly
icy nacelle
Oh I wish. My mate happens to have a 59% Aggressive and got a 11% Muted so I'm wondering if he's got enough, and if he does I'm gonna be so mad because I want that. 
weary mesa
the least you need is 100% with full flanking bonus and head multi
noble sierra
For a hammer: 50% for c-scout and 100% for bigs.
golden pawn
aye what do i do when it says neonatal hsu prerporation
i cant find anywhere to put the hsu
golden pawn
You put it in the big meat grinder
im on d1 btw
@minor fractal aye you know anything abt this?
minor fractal
<@111990475744944128> aye you know anything abt this?
Middle of pit at end.
Could be bugged, but have no idea how the bug works.
glass sand
what's the best way to deal with pouncers?
topaz anvil
im on d1 btw
Are you in the womb area
dapper sage
can you even clear d2 if it gives you the charger room, the spawns are brutal
night scroll
how do you ping items inside storage containers? whenever I ping them my character just says there is a box there
spark wolf
you can only do it sometimes
cuz often the box hitbox fully overlaps with the item
and then it's not possible
if u find one of the boxes where its clearly sticking out u can ping those
noble sierra
can you even clear d2 if it gives you the charger room, the spawns are brutal
If it's charger side, better defend at Z211 so defender can help clear side spawns.
tacit zealot
ive had no problem defending charger of shadows if you defend in the first I tile (the dark corridor)
plush rain
Guys how to get LOBBY ID when you are ingame? (not in menu)
fickle mulch
Guys how to get LOBBY ID when you are ingame? (not in menu)
open settings/options/whatever its called
plush rain
Got it thanks
dry pumice
can you even clear d2 if it gives you the charger room, the spawns are brutal
That's how my squad did it. We just held our ground as 3 people + 2 turrets while 1 guy got shit done. We held at the area right after the first blood door, on top of the ramp chokepoint. There's crates everywhere with lots of resources and you can just keep refilling everything for like 10-15 minutes straight.
Sniper turrets, of course. They wrecked those idiots.
lyric knoll
Hello,
For C2 on cells 5 and 6, how do we get the fog to consistently go down? I've finished the C2 PE around 6 times, but putting the fog down has never been consistent
It tells us to go to a room to turn off the fog on a terminal after the S scan, but that room doesn't have a terminal. Sometimes if someone puts in cell 5/6 the fog goes down, and other times it doesnt
latent obsidian
I don't know anything about a terminal to turn the fog off. I've always just put the 2 cells in and the fog goes down. Maybe its a bug I've not played enough times to see?
lyric knoll
Perhaps. I do have a screenshot of the prompt it gives, but alas no terminal in 157
steel valley
It tells us to go to a room to turn off the fog on a terminal after the S scan, ...
fog goes down every 2 cells
i.e 2/6, 4/6 and 6/6
however there is a bug where fog will go down at 5/6 cells if you have used a checkpoint
lyric knoll
Interesting, I have recordings of it going down without using a checkpoint
steel valley
weird
maybe it can also happen if you start a new c2 lobby without restarting the game after failing?
lyric knoll
My recording was a fresh lobby**
it's weird because my 3rd pe clear, the 5th cell cleared the fog as our first game, and the same with out 5th pe clear
I appreciate the info though @steel valley
opal bridge
Can the Precision Rifle kill a scout? either with headshot or occiput shot?
noble sierra
Headshot within 30m
bold atlas
what is stronger the pdw or assult rifle?
distant ice
Should be very similar
craggy pier
same stk on strikers and shooters
but pdw has a higher refill
like 69.xx vs 60
so it's really amazing balans
dry pumice
If imagine rifle deals more damage per bullet and at higher range
Also viable ADS
PDW is basically p90
CQC spray and pray
dry pumice
The spread is actually a lot tighter than the circle reticle would like to make you believe
craggy pier
and technically you can use the unads thermal sight as a crosshair
cuz the dot represents the middle of the screen lole
tardy ingot
also pdw has a 0.5s reload
well technically
Practically its ~0.8 since you need to swap to hammer and back for quick switch
Tho that is pretty damn insane already
daring fog
carbine still broken?
noble sierra
Carbine reload bug is fixed if that's that you mean.
daring fog
all of them? or just that one that was in the latest patch notes?
noble sierra
Latest patch note only
vital sierra
there's only 1 burst gun... right?
soft crater
Currently yes
soft crater
PDW is basically p90
Eh. Given it has similarDmg to AR but fires like a machine pistol (imo at least) with a long/wide range light
tardy ingot
Its biggest „drawback“ is its range
soft crater
Pretty much
soft crater
The range aspect imo is pretty negligible given the obvious it's a PDW meant for short range
spark mason
Do we know when the merch store is coming back?
daring fog
will cfoam ever be actually fixed?
grizzled widget
will cfoam ever be actually fixed?
fixed in what way?
it phasing through doors instead of foaming them?
bugging doors?
daring fog
all of them
just had all of those in the same run
oh and enemies passing through door hitbox to get foamed
grizzled widget
bugging doors will likely not be fixed for a very long time, as calle said it isn't a priority and will likely always be pushed back as there are more important bugs
as for it going straight through doors, i have no idea
daring fog
1.0 experience
sacred fox
is there modding community for this game?
silver fable
.t modding
uneven gulchBOT
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silver fable
@sacred fox ☝️
sacred fox
thanks
soft mauve
are players restricted to how much cosmetics they can get per rundown? is there a way to re-roll cosmetics?
dry pumice
are players restricted to how much cosmetics they can get per rundown? is there ...
Only the goalposts.
weary mesa
Yes. No.
dry pumice
Once you've gotten everything by beating all objectives - that's it.
You are officially done with this rundown and go do/play something else.
dry pumice
No apparel - no real reason to play, except for bragging rights.
Better stay that way, I got enough headache as it is.
weary mesa
I hope not
ruby wasp
PEs included
PEs aren't a condition for cosmetic unlocks
weary mesa
Maybe they'll make the PE reward something different
dry pumice
As long as its not something actually cool and badass - I'm fine with it
weary mesa
Weapon skins 👀
dry pumice
Otherwise I will be contractually compelled to get it done
Until I shit with blood
How about an ability to vote
Kinda like dota compendium allow you to vote for next arcana receiver
weary mesa
Nah rather it just be something random
soft mauve
so it's not possible to unlock all the cosmetics from a single rundown?
distant ice
yes
dry pumice
Yepperony
dark fern
what am I supposed to do after the 1st blood door in r7d2?
steel valley
find the terminal in that room and go into the corresponding zone for the password
while the other three defend
dark fern
and depending on the door I open they'll spawn shadow/charger for the rest of the mission?
steel valley
yep
ruby wasp
Well
supposedly
Since chargers can still spawn if you pick shadow side (even before you plug the USB key)
upper ginkgo
if i remember correctly, it only big chargers that spawn and they're a set spawn that spawn with tank after plugging in the usb causes 2(?) big chargers and a tank to spawn alongside the normal waves
ruby wasp
It's not only big chargers
You can still have big shadows
snatchers
etc
But before you plug it, you're supposed to only have the enemies from the side you choose
so shadow + tank = only shadows + 1 tank
But for some reason big chargers can still spawn
upper ginkgo
im saying that the big chargers spawn with the tank
ruby wasp
They don't before you plug the key
upper ginkgo
same thing with like how babies + mom will spawn after pulling mom door
ruby wasp
You don't
upper ginkgo
watch a e1 solo run
ruby wasp
It'll be patched anyway
distant gate
how do u do the door trick where enemies cant go through dooers
don't do it. have dignity 
compact wind
why does that make people mad
icy nacelle
Not everyone would want a player (trying) to glitch in their lobby.
ruby wasp
Imagine someone tells you they cleared R7E1 10/15 times
You'd expect them to have a good level in general
Then this person doesn't tell them they passed it using the said glitch
distant gate
why does that make people mad
people with dignity don't like people without dignity
ruby wasp
In other words you're wasting people's time
Nothing against you in particular since you're not the first one who've been asking how to do such things
But that's a real issue that caused many people to stop using lfg/matchmaking & just play in small groups
That bug has been here since several rundowns btw
Still not fixed
compact wind
oh alright, thanks for explaining, i just thought people wanted to know the easiest way to finish the lvl
but i get how that would be annoying
ruby wasp
It might be one of the easiest way to clear levels
But not the best to progress
Once it's patched, those who've been actively using it will have a hard time
If it's patched, that is
compact wind
I didnt know about it till someone did that on D1
distant gate
oh alright, thanks for explaining, i just thought people wanted to know the easi...
cheeziest way 🧀 not = easiest
icy nacelle
Also admittedly, not everyone wants the easiest completion. Some people are playing for the challenge after all.
distant ice
oh alright, thanks for explaining, i just thought people wanted to know the easi...
But the easiest way is cheating and everyone knows that
If you can't die you'll win eventually
ruby wasp
Just so you know, there are people who use cheats to clear levels
and i've witnessed that on streams
It's easy to cheat GTFO, it's easy to clear levels with cheats, but it's boring
The same applies to bug exploits
jaunty bear
might as well just play cod lol
rigid sinew
skill tissue
muted ravine
is it worth ever taking the choke mod shotgun over the normal one?
the -4 mag size just seems so utterly punishing
even if you do get more range and firerate
vernal sapphire
Why te game is freezing a lot?
viscid wolf
is it worth ever taking the choke mod shotgun over the normal one?
theyre fundamentally different
choke mod is more burst, used for doing damage to higher priority targets such as your bigs and special enemies
shotgun is more about wave clear, and being able to stagger and kill multiple smalls reliably
it really depends what playstyle you prefer and what levels you use it for
muted ravine
i guess that makes sense, thank you
viscid wolf
muted ravine
i think i just havent gotten deep enough where there are enough big guys to warrant using it over the normal one
viscid wolf
personally I run the choke mod a lot
because its a middle point between the sniper and wave clear focused weapons
as most levels this rundown don't have enough bigs to justify bringing it, but you need some kind of burst damage
shotgun is always a good choice, but you dont really need to run more than one per team
muted ravine
yeah having burst actually seems really useful in some parts
me and 2 friends have just been bashing our heads against b2 secondary and in the secondary part there seem to be so many big strikers
muted ravine
yes we need one for the shadows
we tried 2 sentries but it just seemed so horrible to use at a certain point
prolly gonna try cfoam mines next run
viscid wolf
the optimal loadout is cfoam mines bio sniper sentry
honestly you might be able to swap the cfoam for a second bio if you want more consistent pings
viscid wolf
ya they're pretty short
just gotta kill all 25 of them before they expire 
should be easy
viscid wolf
hehe u got this
good luck!
also someone should bring machine gun if you haven't already
hold down left click and go brrrrt
on shadows
muted ravine
true actually
we gotta mess around with loadouts alot
last time we just had 2 of the big boy pistols and me on shotgun
viscid wolf
hi cal pistol is pretty poggies
but ya more variety is something to strive for, you want a good balance of waveclear/crowd control and burst
muted ravine
yeah makes sense
the idea was just that we had the shotgun for wave clear and the 2 hi cal for big guys
and hi cal jujst seemed like a good all around option anyway
viscid wolf
smacc em
viscid wolf
u better all be running sledges or bats
muted ravine
we are all running sledges
viscid wolf
remember one hit to the back of the head
two to the back
same time
will insta kill
muted ravine
wait that kills
viscid wolf
ya