#gtfo-related-questions

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maiden cypress
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pink one ugly af whatchumean

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looking like squid game mfs down in the complex

karmic frigate
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Lol

brittle mural
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The clothes are just too dirty imo to make any of the palettes pop more

karmic frigate
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^

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If theyre is ever just like a full on red thats what im putting on but for now ima stay with the gamer pink

brittle mural
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And the colors themselves are a bit too bland

karmic frigate
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Assert dominance

maiden cypress
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most pink palette people i met were clowns

karmic frigate
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Well theres 2 types of pink palette players

brittle mural
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Both are idiots

woeful kiln
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there are the one that tryhard and are still stuck at R7C1 since 4 days

brittle mural
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Got em

woeful kiln
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and there is the one that got carried and c foams the ground instead of doors

karmic frigate
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Theres the ones that joined R6 and where only able to complete it because it was an easy rundown or they got carried

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And then there’s the 500h+ gamers which just claps all the sleepers

woeful kiln
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the real Yeah i play gtfo badge is a R5E1 sub 1h30 completion

maiden cypress
woeful kiln
karmic frigate
woeful kiln
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is that they place c foam on the ground

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when there is a door in the front

karmic frigate
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Exactly

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Ive seen that happen it’s sad

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Free weekend players

maiden cypress
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I do that for ||r7b1||

woeful kiln
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Which is EXACTLY what happened when i decided to do my FIRST discord lfg run for R6

maiden cypress
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||c foam to route enemies for the last T Scan||

karmic frigate
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Yeah thats fine

woeful kiln
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R6D1 we are low on ammo
c foams the ground instead of the SINGLE door

maiden cypress
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||they get stuck there til you're like 70% through the scan||

woeful kiln
vital sierra
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do you guys like B3

woeful kiln
vital sierra
woeful kiln
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😔

vital sierra
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i talk shit about b3

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but i like it

maiden cypress
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B3 is awesome

wooden osprey
vital sierra
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it's difficult just like the game should be

wooden osprey
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too much BS in that level

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not good ones

woeful kiln
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i like B3
but not with new players

brittle mural
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What was B3 again?

woeful kiln
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infection and grab HSU

craggy pier
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what bs?

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It's pretty fair

maiden cypress
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this convo should probably move to spoiler chat

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we shittalk B3 there everyone

brittle mural
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Boo hoo muh spoilers

vital sierra
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but like i said, since i didn't know wtf is really sniper melee and didn't somehow encounter it

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make me enjoy b3 even more

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i just hate extreme

woeful kiln
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if you're host no sniper melee 😎

vital sierra
brittle mural
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Just have 0 perception lmao

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Sniper melee fixed

vital sierra
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i think since most of it happen only at the end of the level

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so there is no room for that to happen to me?

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idk

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i also just did D1 1 hour ago

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didn't notice it

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i think D1 is one of those level that solo player will have a blast?

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||the first class X is juicy||

wooden osprey
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like 10 meters away

vital sierra
wooden osprey
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or like chargers meleeing you from far away

vital sierra
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nope

wooden osprey
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ok so its either you dont care about it and dont notice it

woeful kiln
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do you notice striker hitting you around the corner

vital sierra
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i could rewatch my B3 gameplay

wooden osprey
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you are one lucky mf

wooden osprey
vital sierra
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i TRIED to get it to happen man

woeful kiln
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removed your mods
remove that sniper melee fix

vital sierra
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i want to be related man

woeful kiln
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might help

wooden osprey
vital sierra
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i don't even know how to mod

vital sierra
woeful kiln
topaz anvil
wooden osprey
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chargers teleporting

woeful kiln
wooden osprey
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or getting hit from the corner

vital sierra
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it didn't happen, that's why i was confused

wooden osprey
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@vital sierra give me your video link

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i look for it

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if you dont have any

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you are one lucky mf

vital sierra
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try notice it for me

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this is b3

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i see one

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YES

wooden osprey
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time?

wooden osprey
vital sierra
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is this it?

brittle mural
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Selfish plug lmao

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Got em

vital sierra
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this is my 200+ ping gameplay

wooden osprey
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you saw someone else get sniper meleed

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oof

brittle mural
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30:36 you can clearly see rubberbanding

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Man's a fucking Jedi lmao

vital sierra
vital sierra
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i saw that, but didn't really care much

wooden osprey
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thats sniper melee

ruby wasp
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jesus christ that latency

wooden osprey
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part of it

brittle mural
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Every wacky enemy behaviour is because of that jittering fix

vital sierra
ruby wasp
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man is too strong

brittle mural
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I've experienced worse

ruby wasp
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I did experience worse as well

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And i made sure i do not experience that shit again

brittle mural
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You unistalled?

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Sheesh

wooden osprey
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@vital sierra do you play on 200+ ms ping alot?

vital sierra
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have you guys experience being immortal for 5 minute straight

vital sierra
wooden osprey
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thats why you dont have it

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cause its always there for you

vital sierra
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most of my friend either NA or OC

wooden osprey
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you became a chad by playing with sniper melee and latency always

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for you its common

vital sierra
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that's why i confused then

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it's common

wooden osprey
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yes

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for you

vital sierra
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i thought it's just happen to everyone

wooden osprey
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it does

brittle mural
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It does when its not supposed to

vital sierra
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so i don't care, i just "suck it up man"

wooden osprey
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but your used to playing around latancy and adapting

vital sierra
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or "be better man"

wooden osprey
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i saw you 3 times on that first alarm stopping a sniper melee or just dodging it

brittle mural
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Not even that, the fact that they still haven't fixed it is what I hate

vital sierra
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just adapt it bro

brittle mural
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Nor have made a public statement (that I know of) saying they haven't because game good, developing hard

wooden osprey
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soooo good job @vital sierra you have achived the states of skill issue

brittle mural
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Yea, no just have 0 perception like you lmao

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Got em

wooden osprey
vital sierra
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if i skill issued myself enough

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i will have no skill issue

noble sierra
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The way I adapted sniper melee is don't play R6D2 😄

brittle mural
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Or a +20 foresight

wooden osprey
vital sierra
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maybe they were right

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maybe i'm a fucking masochist

wooden osprey
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than why tf are you never playing modded?

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tf

vital sierra
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oh god

wooden osprey
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what?

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its true

vital sierra
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imagine, you are me and keep questioning people: "why do they kept talking about sniper melee, i don't get it"

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now i know

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that's funny

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how about C3

soft crater
noble sierra
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R6D2 was fine until the patch, you can't defend your self when doing terminal uplink anymore.

soft crater
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Not able to leave it or smth?

soft crater
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Extreme

noble sierra
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Both terminal you got licked by charger you have no LOS.

soft crater
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Eh

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Sniper melee imo is tied to connection quality (as a group not just one. But ofc also the host)

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Also idk since most people I've pubbed with for r6d2 extreme. They always wanna do the checkpoint so only one door defense

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The last time I did it I recall just before R7.
Makes me miss having Hel revo and Helgun loadout

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Helgun my beloved

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Without it. I wouldnt have been able to shoot off 5-6 chargers off the terminal boy

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At a time

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Well wave*

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And yeah with a lackluster connection Chargers have sniper melee to stupid degrees

soft crater
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Peer to peer but I've encountered too many times where one hosting would give everyone latency or lag. Whereas if they are client with someone else as host. It ran just fine.

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Another time this one guy just had a pretty internet in general and the moment he gave up and left our lobby. We proceeded to have no more latency/lag and seemingly sniper melee.

distant ice
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Then you're confusing what is and isn't specifically the sniper melee bug

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There's more than one cause for similar bs

soft crater
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Could be yes

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I've still encountered it mostly at least from what I've noticed. Is connection quality

distant ice
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Well if you get less of it more power to you

soft crater
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As far as I know as well. It isnt like we can see our pings either

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So it's difficult to gauge imo

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Unless there is and I'm an idiot

smoky grove
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Sniper melee is desync between Host and client

brittle mural
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Desync deez nuts

smoky grove
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So if host, a striker would stop 4m away to tongue you, but if client, it would stand 8m away to tongue you, hits you, then updates to its 'actual' position, which is where it would be for the host, then immediately desyncs again after the fact

smoky grove
brittle mural
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Hit 'em with the git got gotten git better

soft crater
smoky grove
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Sounds like a matter of silence hmm

shell turtle
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I have 200 hours by now playing GTFO, is there any way of how to know your ping?

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Like typing some sort of command.

brittle mural
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Alt f4 PirateSimon

soft crater
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Unless the devs implement it. I imagine it'd only be possible somewhere in the code

floral acorn
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u can get a ballpark ping by sharing actual ip address and trying icmp ping to it. there's steam proxies in the middle but "ballpark".

brittle mural
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Bad idea

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Probs not good to share your IPs to strangers online

fast turtle
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Do maps stay the same layout wise, i mean do rooms move or are they same spot

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I know enemies and objects move was wondering about rooms though

thorny creek
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Rooms are always the same, resources and consumables are randomized, as well as enemies

fast turtle
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Thank you

past star
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C-foam seems to just not work anymore if the door is hit, this happen for anyone else?

dry pumice
past star
dry pumice
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I tried re-closing doors, hitting them with a melee... Doesn't help.

past star
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It seems like 10% chance you can refoam it

distant ice
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just tried it though only for a bit, didn't happen to me

dry pumice
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It's a rare occurrence . Had it happen on the big door at the beginning of B1.

dry pumice
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The neighboring small door foamed fine.

distant ice
past star
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It might be tied to level or certain doors. Not sure. Cause it happened on e1 almost every time.

distant ice
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i'm guessing there are more specific conditions to it

maiden cypress
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i used to have that problem. Now i foam the flaps on the door and avoid the slits

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i dont know if it's exactly why it happens?But i havent had it happen since

dry pumice
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The flaps?...

maiden cypress
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idk brother

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whatever you call those

past star
maiden cypress
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maybe

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i've had that happen once on R6D2. Full foam and it just phased through the door. I was super confused

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either it was desync or you could verify game files and reinstall or something

cursive halo
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Has anyone had a battery glitch at the checkpoint on C1? Also has anyone finished C1? My group can't get past picking up 8/9 canisters

distant ice
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there are people with the whole rundown cleared

drifting mauve
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^ Fireblade finished the rundown before 48h lmao

muted meadow
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anyone know how to use the warpgate on c2?

cursive halo
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Could I pick someone's brain about it? My group and I are stuck

topaz anvil
muted meadow
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kk thx

past star
zenith heron
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Not sure if this is right place to ask. But I'm trying to join someone's lobby by copying their lobby ID from Discord. When I copy it and go into GTFO I don't have the option to join a lobby using the Lobby ID I copied.

topaz anvil
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Do you not see the red button

dry pumice
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There's a red button on the left of rundown screen

zenith heron
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I only have Matchmake, Free Weekend and GTFO Discord

dry pumice
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Or at least supposed to be

wooden osprey
zenith heron
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Nah they said in-game chat

wooden osprey
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ask him to give you the code again in dms

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the code most likely changed

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it does that sometimes

zenith heron
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okay i'll do that, ty

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That join lobby ID button only appears if I copy my own lobby ID once I've hosted a game

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I can't paste the lobby ID into the lobby chat either. And I've tried typing out the ID and copying it but I can't copy the text in game

topaz anvil
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Are you in a lobby when you try to join theirs?

zenith heron
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nO

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*no

topaz anvil
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Hmmm, thats the extent of my knowledge :^)

zenith heron
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It's really confusing xD

muted meadow
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@topaz anvil doesnt give me secondary tho so yeah how do you use the warp gate?

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ye with the generator

topaz anvil
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Actually take it to dms for spoilers

muted meadow
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sure np

raven lagoon
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Apologies for the stupid question. I haven't had a chance to do solo stealth. I've only seen solo runs done without them. How do they interfere if you stick to crouching and melee?

daring fog
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how do you mean?

floral acorn
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u should learn stealth by crouching and syncing w flashlight.. watch khepri and nuggies yt for "fast" stealth when u are tired of crouching and slow clears

grizzled widget
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when running enemies instantly awake. when walking, they awake much faster. when crouch-walking, they awake slowly, when standing still, they don't awake.

floral acorn
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learn enemy distance, when will a neighbor wake up on melee kill and when not

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learn double bonks, learn wake manipulation (flash desired enemy to glow, then kill one and then kill the glower) ...

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learn how to deal w remote wakeups (uncrouch, walk charging, bonk, stop, dont crouch)

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learn scout sprint aggro (charge melee while walking, tap sprint to induce feelers, walk last steps and wattaaa, stop dont crouch) ... for starters.

distant ice
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crouching just doesn't wake them up until you're really close

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if they're already awake/listening, crouching and walking doesn't make much difference

dry pumice
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It's always hard to explain sleeper phases to people

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Especially the difference between sleeping and half-sleeping

sleek apex
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you don't need to be precise and very detailed for new players though, just tell them small amounts of enemy movement/noise is bad and that crouching is generally more effective but that they can experiment once comfortable

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the depth of nuance some peoples' descriptions of effective stealth go into is a little unnecessary when people will experiment on their own once they know the baseline ideas

distant ice
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while that is true

floral acorn
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clearing a packed room slowly and steadily, syncing w light and being careful, is a great school. enough hours and confidence kicks in, alltho accidents happen to even the gods. wesley on his hitless r5b1 even chaptered a section "stealth is optional" :)

distant ice
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what usually happens with players is that they get their own ideas and then it's impossible to convince them otherwise

dry pumice
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Yep. Like believing that voice chat triggers them.

icy nacelle
floral acorn
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lets put the autosentry outside and cfoam the floor infront of the door, win

viscid wolf
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oh god

karmic frigate
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Am I the only one that likes to solo kill giants

viscid wolf
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I used to do that

karmic frigate
dry pumice
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I love putting sentries outside doors.

viscid wolf
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I dont think shotgun sentry either

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I dont think any sentry

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especially with modern mines

dry pumice
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Burst or sniper if range allows.

karmic frigate
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I havent put a sentry behind a door in so fucking long

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Cuz modern mines are best mines

dry pumice
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But yeah, you usually only do it there's no Cfoam in the team or on door

turbid horizon
karmic frigate
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Havent done eval yet

floral acorn
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sometimes an open door room 0 is godly

dry pumice
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Eval actually triggered my flight response

icy nacelle
# karmic frigate You do that with shotgun sentry

One of my mates did that on both B1 And B2. He uhm.. ran out of ammo with it as the very start of the level and I was honestly unwilling to actually resupply him knowing he would just do it again.

dry pumice
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Fucking hell

karmic frigate
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Thats why you only do that on big waves

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You used shotgun sentry during heavy defense

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I miss R2D2

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With that sweet sweet 10 wave reactor startup

icy nacelle
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I was just sitting there like, why are you doing this. My mines literally clear the wave for the most part anyway and it only costs one bloody mine to do that. ScoutRage

karmic frigate
floral acorn
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but the original question of slow crouch stealth solo.. greatest gtfo lesson there is

dry pumice
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Mine nerf is coming, I'm sure of that

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It's gonna happen, you'll see

craggy pier
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why

icy nacelle
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I feel like mines are a bit similar to the sniper. They're most likely just going to keep lowering ammo for it but the main use of it (mining doors, or for the Sniper killing Giants) is still going to be incredibly strong.

dry pumice
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I believe I asked this before but is mine deployer rundown specific?

karmic frigate
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No

craggy pier
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no

karmic frigate
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Lol

dry pumice
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Rip

karmic frigate
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Bio, c-foam, mine and burst sentry are all not rundown specific

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And so is sniper shotgun and revolver

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And smg, assault rifle, pistol and DMR

rigid sinew
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oh, the lovely, mostly system bound, crashes ihavenofacebutiwillstillscream

karmic frigate
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Syringes are level specific

dry pumice
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You don't need to list the entire arsenal, I just need the mines

raven lagoon
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Hey. Apologies for the vagueness. I played the whole free weekend guns-blazing. Took me until Sunday to realize I should use stealth where possible. However, I'm not finding any videos of stealth solo runs that include bots

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Obviously, multiplayer is an option. But only sometimes, for me

karmic frigate
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Thats because bots are bad at stealth

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They don’t melee often

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And when you wake up enemies they shoot and waste ammo

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Bots shooting doesn’t wake enemies up

dry pumice
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I don't think that's the reason

turbid horizon
karmic frigate
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Nor movement

karmic frigate
dry pumice
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Long story short: bots are broken in stealth

turbid horizon
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if sleepers nearby are still asleep, and you mess up a melee kill, the bots will try to help u

icy nacelle
dry pumice
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As in: they are straight invisible

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They don't make sounds even with guns and can hug scouts without a care

floral acorn
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nuggies stealth made way before bots but everything applies... except maybe bhop which is gone

raven lagoon
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Will they start shooting if I wake an enemy, but am able to melee it before it screams?

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That's my biggest concern. The bots wake the room

icy nacelle
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They can't.

dry pumice
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I told you already

icy nacelle
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Regardless of shooting, the bots cannot wake a room.

dry pumice
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They can't, they are completely invisible in stealth

icy nacelle
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They are literally incapable of triggering loud by themselves.

dry pumice
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They can sprint, shoot, kiss scouts.

raven lagoon
dry pumice
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Nothing is gonna happen.

raven lagoon
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Good to know

dry pumice
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But they can't sync kill either.

karmic frigate
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Stealthing is the one thing that you get better and better at this game

dry pumice
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So clusters are slightly more of a problem.

karmic frigate
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First it’s always 3 2 1 go with teammates

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Then it’s syncing

raven lagoon
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I've seen enough on solo stealth that it hopefully won't be a problem going forward, with some practice

karmic frigate
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Then it’s intuition of when players are gonna kill an enemy

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And then it’s enemy rushing

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Then walk killing

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And then it’s solo giant and scouts

icy nacelle
turbid horizon
karmic frigate
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But sometimes I gotta communicate when theres a large cluster

icy nacelle
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One of my mates does it pretty often with me. The other one.. not so much.

karmic frigate
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Lol

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Me and @compact pebble do it all the time

icy nacelle
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I mean, half of the previous statement is still true.

karmic frigate
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Also im getting closer to that 700 hours

compact pebble
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wha

karmic frigate
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Yk

compact pebble
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i was pinged?

karmic frigate
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Stealth killing without communicating

compact pebble
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ah

karmic frigate
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You just know the person is gonna go for it

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So you go for it and it’s like

compact pebble
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mm

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yus

dry pumice
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Why am I not surprised that you two are friends

icy nacelle
compact pebble
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uwu

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what makes you say that

karmic frigate
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Lmao

compact pebble
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anyways

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@karmic frigate i was about to fall asleep before i got pinged lul

karmic frigate
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Oh lol

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Go sleep then

compact pebble
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w<

wet ember
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anyone else having issues with boxes spawning in facing walls?

dry pumice
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Yes.

wet ember
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i keep finding boxes facing walls, and before it wasn't such an issue. but now, you can't open them from the back of the box. so there's a lot of resources i'm missing out on because i can't even open them.

dry pumice
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Try jumping on top of them

floral acorn
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boxes facing wall and artifacts deep in shelves unreachable, #bug-reporting takes 8 seconds to file w screenshot

icy nacelle
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I've luckily only encountered two thus far and both were on B1.

wet ember
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i've done that, and it's worked on a few of them. but it seems like the registry box to interact with them has gotten smaller. so a lot of times it's like finding a needle in a hay stack to find the sweet spot to "press E to open"

icy nacelle
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Though one of them was the keycard spawn at the start of the level. lul

wet ember
somber bluff
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what the exact limit on the amount of boosters?

icy nacelle
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20 Of each.

dry pumice
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Such an arbitrary limitation...

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Also I approve of your avatar

grizzled widget
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i'm not writing a guide, it's a generalization

spark wolf
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but its not true cuz you can still sprint after landing

minor fractal
grizzled widget
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did i say anything about jumping?

spark wolf
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you said sprint

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100% true

grizzled widget
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you said landing

spark wolf
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sprint after landing

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why would i not be allowed to something before the sprint

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it's still a sprint

grizzled widget
spark wolf
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that won't have the behaviour you said it would

grizzled widget
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how is it misleading

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it is the most basic of information

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it doesnt elaborate on anything else

mystic loom
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and you mess it up

minor fractal
nimble pendant
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just to clarify for me a new player the sleeper going in and out of glow is a normal behavior that is unaffected by direct input by me.

grizzled widget
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i have so many mean things i want to say right now

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but saying them would get me banned

minor fractal
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Edgy.

minor fractal
fickle mulch
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going to awaken the wolf

minor fractal
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Flashlights and standing movement, mainly.

nimble pendant
karmic frigate
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Shooting hitting the ground killing a sleeper

karmic frigate
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You can synchorinize enemies by flashing them

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Synchronize

minor fractal
karmic frigate
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^

minor fractal
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W/out alerting anything, ofc.

nimble pendant
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thats something i need to get better at to stop long range alerts. also dealing with scouts

minor fractal
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Comes w/ time.

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Definitely consider how much information you have in stealth.

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Check dark corners, try to remember where most of the enemies around you are located and check if you synced them properly.

nimble pendant
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ight

woeful kiln
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you can also grab bio to access this info easier

nimble pendant
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bio is ineed useful

spark wolf
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bio gamers

craggy pier
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it's unironically better for people to learn by themselves than for someone to mislead them

nimble pendant
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somebody told me you had to do the final door and the case remover thingy at the same time on b1

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i was like who told you this

dry pumice
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To be fair

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It's easy to come to this conclusion

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The flier attack comes out of nowhere

woeful kiln
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people often spread fake news

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and it's just a flier wave

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not an error alarm

dry pumice
#

And people in panic can easily decided that they are being forced to leave right now

nimble pendant
#

thats fair

woeful kiln
#

well as long as there are no funny alarm you're chilling

dry pumice
#

With this game you can never be sure what is an alarm and what isn't

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For all I knew those fliers would spawn Indefinetely R6B1 style

nimble pendant
#

as a rule of thumb the missions get harder as you go down? if yes then i shouldnt use those as solo practice right?

woeful kiln
#

or you could 😎 and try to solo a bit of the level

dry pumice
#

You can always try to see what to expect

#

A and B are best for solo practice

woeful kiln
#

don't try to practice on C3 tho

dry pumice
#

The C increases the pain significantly

#

Especially local C. Lots of bad news coming from C1 attempts

nimble pendant
#

heh yeah i tried to do c1 solo. it didnt go well

dry pumice
#

I tried with people.

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I didn't even reached the part people are really complaining about

compact pebble
#

skill issue?

dry pumice
#

We did wake up Z23 and had to fight for our lives, spending precious resources. So... Yes.

Also, aren't you supposed to be sleeping?

distant ice
#

with how GTFO works it's more surprising that the flyer wave wasn't infinite

#

"complete objective, infinite alarm starts for no reason" is something i've been taught since R1

shrewd jolt
#

how do you activate the air filtration in c1 im mid mission and cant figure it out

floral acorn
#

terminal command in.... zone 23?

shrewd jolt
#

yeah

warm lichen
#

Tackling Zone 23 is almost more dangerous than just dealing with the fog ScoutRageScoutRageScoutRageScoutRageScoutRage

minor fractal
icy nacelle
#

It's not that hard to stealth it unless you get really screwed over with spawns.

warm lichen
woeful kiln
#

then go ahead and disable that fog

cunning trellis
#

How many checkpoints are there normally in each level?

minor fractal
cunning trellis
#

got it

minor fractal
#

Usually 1-3

cunning trellis
#

okay, good... the 3-checkpoint levesl are a kind of too long since we all have kids , jobs, spouses etc

dry pumice
#

welcome to gtfo

distant ice
#

Checkpoint count is more about level difficulty than length

dry pumice
#

bought the wrong game, my man

cunning trellis
#

damn

dry pumice
#

I can afford 1 level attempt after work hours

cunning trellis
#

well

distant ice
#

2 hours could be 3 long level attempts without checkpoints

cunning trellis
#

i've found that this game really gatekeeps, its' weird

we all palyed hunt showdown a lot, and there were a lot of gatekeeper-y types there too. we like a hardcore time, just not soething that is unable to complete with busy modern life

distant ice
#

Checkpoints allow you to get a lot more done

dry pumice
#

Ask the devs about their amazing vision, i suppose

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Easier levels take about 30-40 minutes

#

The longer ones... Its like actually being deployed IRL

distant ice
#

You see E1 clears with under an hour playtime though

#

How long it takes is up to you

dry pumice
#

We take average times

weary mesa
#

D2 moment

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30 mins tops

cunning trellis
#

maybe this game just ain't for us

#

if you could load checkpoints after taking a break that'd be fine

dry pumice
#

High chance, yes

#

this game is fucking brutal and devs show no signs of stopping

#

Hell, previous rundown was criticized as being too easy

cunning trellis
#

we like elden ring. we like even more arbitrarily unfair games!!!

dry pumice
#

2 hours levels with 20 secondary objectives?

cunning trellis
#

it's just time

dry pumice
#

Hell yeah, sign these people up

cunning trellis
#

time that you can't get back

#

it's fine if we keep failing

#

but you can take a break, re-rack, and do it later in other games

dry pumice
#

ACtualy legit point.

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FromSoft preffers to reset your progress by about 15-20 minutes

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not fucking 40...

cunning trellis
#

exactly

#

we have no trouble with obscene difficulty, just not the big chunks

dry pumice
#

To be fair fromsoft compensates instead by doing it about 3-4 times in a row, so

weary mesa
#

from soft games aren't hardcore

dry pumice
#

Depends

cunning trellis
#

ok, so what is hardcore then? lmao

dry pumice
#

Meatboy

cunning trellis
#

LMAO

#

but meatboy takes evne lss time

weary mesa
#

Resets all progress on death

cunning trellis
#

but you can stop playing meat boy

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then go to work

#

and come back

dry pumice
#

yeah...

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that's the issue i came into here too

#

i cant play before work, i just cant

cunning trellis
#

that's the main difference. if GTFO was even more hardcore with its difficulty, but you could take long breaks? that'd be fine

#

time does not equal skill

dry pumice
#

People do suggested like 20 times that checkpoints save between sessions

#

Make progress, leave, comeback

cunning trellis
#

that would be perfet

dry pumice
#

So far no comment from devs

#

Maybe one day

cunning trellis
#

damn

#

that would be ideal

dry pumice
#

And also

#

Checkpoints are fucking broken

#

Game breaking bugs all over the place

cunning trellis
#

damn

dry pumice
#

I'm scared to think what trying to save them between sessions would bring

cunning trellis
#

so it doesn't really matter your skill level, you can only be good at GFTO if you're a child who has infinite free time, got it 😛

/sarcasm

spark wolf
#

wowowowo

dry pumice
#

Weekends.

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That is all.

cunning trellis
#

also you have to be single and not have a real life social life 😛
(again, sarcasm)

dry pumice
#

uh oh

cunning trellis
#

anyway, you seem y point

#

it's just annoying because you can play tarkov and then die and take a break

dry pumice
#

But for real - this is not a "quick come and gone" game, that's for sure. I can only afford it on weekends.

cunning trellis
#

damn

dry pumice
#

If you need something more... Accessable - i can only recommend to reinstall L4D2.

#

I still occasionaly play it during late evenings before sleep

#

And don't even get any headaches, aint that amazing

#

Unlike this masochist simulator

distant ice
#

Alright and what stops you from taking a break in gtfo

#

If it's because you don't want to lose the checkpoint then i feel you're thinking of checkpoints wrong

dry pumice
distant ice
#

They shouldn't be some sort of hard to reach continuation point for the rest of the level, where your initial goal is to just get the checkpoint and then think from there

dry pumice
#

Unless you died to begin with

#

We're talking exit points

#

Where you can actually quit the game

#

GTFO has them pretty... Spaced out.

distant ice
#

Ok just quit and start the level from the beginning

#

That's how it was done for 5 rundowns and it was perfectly fine

dry pumice
#

"just throw those 40 minutes into the trashcan"

cunning trellis
#

yup

weary mesa
#

are you not learning during those or something

distant ice
#

Your 40 minutes could be 20 minutes next time cuz you know wtf you're doing now

dry pumice
#

True, but its still prefferable that THE GAME offers that exit point, rather than have you ALT+F4

#

In GTFO there's pretty much exactly 2 exit points: success or death

#

Which actually perfectly goes in line with game's motto, heh

distant ice
#

Evaluate whether you have enough time for a run before starting it?

dry pumice
#

Already on it

#

Can't play it after waking up

#

Only after work

#

Actually i should be playing it right now

#

But i'm lazy and once again stuck in procrastination loop

#

Gonna break out of it in 20 minutes

distant ice
#

Like

#

You can't quit a csgo match after starting and it can take 60-90 minutes

#

People don't seem to have a problem with that

dry pumice
#

They did

#

CS:GO introduced shorter matches

#

only 15 rounds instead of... What was it before? 30?

distant ice
#

8 years after the game released lmao

dry pumice
#

Yep, still done it though

#

Much less headache and suffering ends sooner

#

"Come on, MF, shoot me in the head with AK47 again"

weary mesa
#

what you can FF If you're getting stomp

#

or DC

dry pumice
#

That's unsportsman-like and dishonorable

distant ice
#

Both of those are options here as well but we're not talking about that rn

dry pumice
#

I also once was a DOTA player

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Now that thing...

#

Basically you need 90 minutes prepared before hand either way

#

But the actual match can take from 15 to all the way up there

#

They also introduced super quick matches

#

Although it seems to be a meme mode, from what i remember....

#

To be clear: that's not a point, i'm just rambling

distant ice
#

Yeah

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Anyway i think 2 hours is time that anyone is able to gather

dry pumice
#

True.

distant ice
#

And there is an expected amount of runs you can do in that time

dry pumice
#

Unfortunately this is where we just have to go and officially say that this is gatekept gud

#

If you can't do that - simply ain't a game for you

distant ice
#

Have 20 minutes, need 40 minutes, just end 20 minutes early ggs

dry pumice
#

Nothing can be done, unless devs will have a sudden change of heart.

#

What's the point though, then?

#

Although that's just my style, either i commit or not - no half-assing

distant ice
#

Idk how many times I've quit mid run but gtfo is built around repeating levels

dry pumice
#

Honestly i don't really like that

#

I really do feel like deaths are forced sometimes

distant ice
#

Regardless of whether you like that

dry pumice
#

But what can be done... Gonna have Raylot carry me again

distant ice
#

Since it's not the convo rn

valid arch
#

We're stuck with 4 cells in C1, idk how many cells are there

weary mesa
#

that's it

dry pumice
#

dont you just need 1

karmic frigate
distant ice
#

Not what i meant

#

Gtfo levels aren't built to be cleared first try

#

You're supposed to repeat them

#

Die, repeat

#

Quit, repeat

mental bay
#

What is the D1 Overload Objective

distant ice
#

No difference

karmic frigate
#

Yeah

jaunty bear
#

then gain enormous euphoria when completing it

karmic frigate
#

Agreed

#

But

#

They added Checkpoints

dry pumice
#

The game's motto is "work together or die together", not "work together or quit together"

karmic frigate
#

Checkpoints made the game bit worse

#

SURE

#

If you die

#

You don’t have to restart absolutely everything

#

But

dry pumice
#

That's a major plus

karmic frigate
#

It forces you to stay in that level longer

#

Think about it

#

You could be stuck retrying that one part over and over

dry pumice
#

Had that 3 days ago

distant ice
karmic frigate
#

Ye

dry pumice
#

Me and some boys did B3

#

It took us... Let me remember...

#

about 4 attempts to beat the finale?

karmic frigate
#

It saves time cuz u don’t have to redo the level but you keep having to redo the same part

#

All tho

#

I understand having checkpoints for CERTAIN

#

Area’s

#

Like that C1 end thingg

dry pumice
#

On 4th attempt we FINALLY understood the path and got it done

karmic frigate
#

Thats totally fine

dry pumice
#

However

#

How the fuck would you balance that between different groups

weary mesa
#

I just don't like checkpoints because everyone just wants to bash their head until they win rather than conceding and being more efficient next run

dry pumice
#

Does the new 4th guy inherets previous 4th guy's ammo count?

#

Or can he start a lobby by himself?

warm lichen
#

The logistics of it don't work out, I would argue that you could only recover it with the same group, but even that would bum people out.

#

But it would be nice

#

or, I wouldn't mind if missions had no checkpoints but were shorter on average to compensate.

#

For me, I am mostly fine with how long missions take because I'm not really losing out on anything by not winning. It's not like a grindy live service game where I only get 50% XP if I lose. There is only a reward for winning, and even then it's just cosmetics. I want to win to win. I enjoy playing the game even if I'm losing. Spending 40 minutes losing or 40 minutes winning doesn't really make a huge difference to me.

dry pumice
#

How about this: forfeit the checkpoint, but get extra resources. Like 4 charges of each refill or something.

floral acorn
#

bruting a cp can bring a win as everyone knows by attempt #6 on what to do exacrly, where the ammopack is, what room has the scout etc etc. defeats the idea somewhat. should completely randomise forward, imho.

warm lichen
#

If anything, the "OH GOD WE'RE FUCKED" feeling of being 30 mins into a mission where someone has 20% health, someone has 10% ammo, and you used up all of your C-Foam in the last alarm, is kinda the joy of the game?

#

And then when you go on to win from that? 🤌

dry pumice
#

PRetty much my B3 experience

#

I was already advocating for calling it quits, but the other 2 guys persevered

#

And so i just hugged my precision rifle a little harder

#

Felt soooo good to win that

#

The suffering wasn't in vain!

woeful kiln
#

was it overload?

dry pumice
#

Of course fucking not

#

B3 is cringe

woeful kiln
#

yeah no wonder cuz that precision rifle against overload ain't gonna do shit

dry pumice
#

I'm scared to even imagine

woeful kiln
#

cuz ||chargers||

dry pumice
#

I actually had the key on me

#

Could insert it at any moment

#

I was hoping to get some secondary done there

#

But quickly realized it wasnt an option

#

Shit's baaaaaad

celest sandal
#

Is it a good idea to buy gtfo if I have:
Intel Core i5-3570
Nvidia GeForce GTX 960
8 GB RAM
Would I be able to run this on at least mid settings without lag?

dry pumice
#

No.

#

i5-4690
GTX 1060 3GB
16 GB RAM
here

#

I run everything low and textures at half

floral acorn
dry pumice
#

It just barely holds 60 FPS

floral acorn
#

all good except gpu

dry pumice
#

But actually... They optimised it grealy in R7

#

R6 was way worse

#

Although B1 still stutters for some reason

#

Those Plants are unoptimised

floral acorn
#

those trees have leaves in the <trump> billions

warm lichen
#

The 970 is a real good card. I was using one up until this year, getting 60 with decent settings on most games.

spark wolf
#

plenty of places this rundown where i drop from 144fps to 90 and below

#

and the game also has stuttering again if its been open for a long time

dry pumice
#

oh right

#

shit degrades with time

#

Classic unity

celest sandal
dry pumice
#

Prices expected to drop somewhere in 2023

spark wolf
#

i really think you could do some epic speedrun strat because when you stutter in this game it lets you clip through shit

floral acorn
#

like r6dx mid terminal fence. and fall to death, all the way. :)

tacit zealot
#

How is C2 overload supposed to be done ? Somehow did it with no fog and no error

#

Like what’s the order of events for a C2 PE

weary mesa
#

Intended is most likely during 3 and 4

#

But they don't lock you into it so it's piss easy during 5 and 6

warm parrot
#

do you get rewards for max prisoner efficiency?

drifting mauve
#

No

#

Appart from the rewards from both secondary and overload

dreamy sapphire
grizzled widget
#

we didnt have a single issue in r6 or 6.5

#

which got a lot of bad rep with Destination, but it was never a problem with us

signal tulip
#

does the new thermal sniper one shot scouts?

dry pumice
warm parrot
craggy pier
#

R6 ran great for me, R7 put my pc in a headlock lol

#

granted my top of the line spicy pc build is uh, 6 years old now...

dry pumice
#

Exactly the opposite

drifting mauve
#

I gotta agree with frostty, had no problems last rundown, but this one I crashed 2 times and my friend a couple of times

signal tulip
drifting mauve
#

It’s still easily playable, but bit buggy sometimes

dry pumice
#

Horrble performance all around in R6. Even A1 was stuttery. R7 is much smoother.

#

No idea what they did.

#

Although... My FPS locker went from 90 where i had it before to 130

earnest tusk
#

R7 runs better than R6 for me.

craggy pier
#

to be fair R7 got a lot better for me recently, which likely means the issue was on my end

dry pumice
#

But that cant be it, can it? My minotor is 60 HZ anyway

drifting mauve
#

Weird lol

warm parrot
grizzled widget
#

1660ti, 8gb ram, amd fx6300

craggy pier
#

minimum

grizzled widget
#

i can still get 60fps

#

if it works it works

#

cpu magic. making miracles with nothing

#

but its not just me anyhow. my friend has a stronger cpu than i do (who doesn't?) and have same issues

pearl abyss
#

Usually how much time until new expeditions/a new rundown comes?

grizzled widget
#

4-6 months

#

but it depends

supple tartan
#

if i wanted to get to a scout solo repetitively what would be the quickest way to do so??

grizzled widget
#

fastest last rundown was b2, idk about r7, sorry

viscid wolf
#

I dont really think there's one this rundown

pearl abyss
viscid wolf
#

maybe B1

#

but that would require you to do a clas 3

grizzled widget
#

this isnt a game you should binge

#

you complete it with your friends then play something else until the next content drop

pearl abyss
#

I see

warm parrot
#

I enjoy playing this game with randoms too though

#

but it's also fun with friends

grizzled widget
#

its an event twice a year

pearl abyss
#

Well i guess its better so you dont experience a burn out

viscid wolf
#

your first rundown will generally take you months

#

probably not even to completion

warm parrot
#

why do you say that

pearl abyss
grizzled widget
#

its very, very hard

pearl abyss
grizzled widget
#

if you are going in fresh there will be a lot of time learning and trying levels until you succeed

#

i never finished d tier of my first rundown, r1 two years ago

pearl abyss
#

I can't imagine playing this game without friends you can trust lol

grizzled widget
#

every rundown after that that i played aside from r3 i did 100% though

grizzled widget
warm parrot
grizzled widget
#

so it will take less time to complete than past rundowns

#

if you are playing with randoms

warm parrot
#

with like 10 or so checkpoints resets

pearl abyss
warm parrot
#

I started 3 days ago

grizzled widget
#

i'd say if you are new and can clear c1 by about a week or two after release, i'd be confident you'd be able to finish r7.

warm parrot
#

it would take about that long for oyu

pearl abyss
#

Me and my friends are all noobies but we got the brains

grizzled widget
#

for reference r7 released on the 16th

pearl abyss
#

Or IF i get to it

grizzled widget
#

some of the levels, and pretty much ALL later levels demand 2-3, to possibly 4-5 hour long play sessions to complete depending on your skill as a team

pearl abyss
#

B1's final part was very stressful and hard died so many times

supple tartan
#

of my 21 hours since free weekend id say most of them were spent on b1

#

ive finished it around 6 times now

dry pumice
#

Heh

pearl abyss
grizzled widget
#

again, it really depends on who you play with and the nature of that

dry pumice
#

Took us almost 2 hours to beat B3, includeding about 4 checkpoint reloads

#

main only

#

Level's cursed

pearl abyss
#

Btw what's up with the other levels other than the Main ones, how do you get to them

grizzled widget
dry pumice
#

As long as its not poisonous fog - i'm fine

grizzled widget
dry pumice
#

Fog is pretty much my only weakness

grizzled widget
#

its bullying the players

#

||and that blood door is literally one of the first doors!||

pearl abyss
dry pumice
#

That is why you should learn how to use terminals

grizzled widget
#

ping collection_case

#

like that ^

pearl abyss
#

We didnt know how to use the terminals

grizzled widget
#

if you type 'commands' you can view all commands on terminals and it says what they do

#

and you can press TAB to auto complete

pearl abyss
#

I see

#

Anyway im not the one that was using the terminals but ill look into it

grizzled widget
jaunty bear
#

good day

icy cave
icy cave
humble crater
#

is there a lore-wise explanation on why scouts become immune when they are charging?

warm lichen
#

What would be a good expedition to go into to practice stealth killing Scouts? One where scouts appear as early in the mission as possible?

supple tartan
warm lichen
#

Cool. Thanks. That's where I was gonna try it but I wasn't sure if there were any later ones that like, start you in a room with them or something lol

supple tartan
#

i havent passed c1 yet because im not gamer enough so i wouldnt kno /shrug

warm lichen
#

me either HackettHug

viscid wolf
valid arch
#

I know i read the "how to matchmake" channel on how to join someones room. But idk if that means i just need to copy the code and the game automatically notices the code?

viscid wolf
viscid wolf
humble crater
viscid wolf
#

evolution

warm lichen
#

playing around in C1 now, I think I've got it

#

I was sprinting up to them before

#

when you need to walk

turbid horizon
#

if an enemy is stuck in a wall, is there an easy way to despawn him? I've heard things about being far away from them making it despawn

viscid wolf
#

you'll just have to bio tracker him

#

from playing C2 you'll have be either extremely far or there might just not despawn at all

minor fractal
# warm lichen What would be a good expedition to go into to practice stealth killing Scouts? O...

-C1 has the most scouts before any alarms, but they're in a zone with a ton of bigs so it's not the best place for a beginner necessarily.
-D1 has scouts mixed in with normals if you open Overload, so that's the best place to go if you want scouts that are in packed rooms.
-D1 Main also has scouts mixed in with special enemies ||mainly shadows||, although that's less good for practicing scouts and more-so for practicing dealing with said specials.
-B1 has scouts early on that are either alone or in lightly populated rooms, but you need to do a class III diminished alarm to get to any of them (grants you access to three scouts). Very easy with bots, though, as long as you understand alarm set-up well enough.

minor fractal
#

Despite the alarm, I think B1 is probably the best starting point for getting the scout down specifically, and then D1 Overload is a good way to try to master scouts paired with more general hard stealth.

quasi osprey
valid arch
#

If I made a LFG, which ones to copy in order to join in-game match, the lobby ID or the discord link

vital sierra
#

send people in your call the id instead of putting it in LFG

forest patrol
#

Does anyone have problems when loading into a game when youre not game host and then see after images of dead monsters and sometimes doors apear to be closed but youre teammates can go through it but you cant??? not sure what to do

rigid sinew
#

epic ultra desync

vital sierra
#

that's desync, and probably at 500 - 1000 pings

forest patrol
#

Oh damn is there anything i can do

coral girder
#

me and my team are on c1 and struggling to develop a strat

#

we used all our cells but are at 6/9 glps

#

is there certain zones we should go into?

#

or certain doors we should use cells on?

maiden cypress
#

||every zone has 3 glps. Look for them on the terminals. You should also get 4 cells in total||

coral girder
#

we started with 4

#

but used one to get into the cp scan

fickle mulch
minor fractal
#

C1 is soft-lock-proof.

indigo quiver
#

to unlock E-1, what do you have to do?

minor fractal
coral girder
#

for c1, after the "encounter" do the waves continuously spawn?

#

we're trying to reach the extraction point but struggling

#

we can't develop a strat and keep going down after the "encounter

compact pebble
#

yes its continuous

#

the games i had we just ran past enemies and cfoam the door behind us

#

go fast

soft crater
#

Last second the snatchers took me and Lindsay and excism was panicking with a bunch of strikers and giants around him in the extraction scan

pearl nimbus
#

I got grabbed at like 80% on the extract and I was trying so hard not to slam my keyboard

#

Thought it was gameover for sure

coral girder
#

we'll try running

#

after the alarm

indigo quiver
vital sierra
viscid wolf
#

mans game is having vietnam flashbacks

sly obsidian
#

I'm kinda new to the game. I put in 10 hours and I'm still confused about what "1,-,-,-" means. Can anyone help?

shrewd dirge
#

/ denotes different vernacular for the same thing

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main/high, extreme/secondary, overload, PE/Prisoner Efficiency (all objectives in the same run)

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1,-,-,- mean the mission only has a high sector

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it also means you only have 1 high clear

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1,0,-,- means
you have 1 high sector clear, zero secondary sector clears, -,- means overload/PE are not present on the given floor.

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PE is only present when all the sectors are possible on a floor.

random marsh
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so if my game bugs out, as in my friend and i and our 2 bots die except for one who stands there no ammo apparently dead, and we leave the game, can we go back in from out last checkpoint

eternal bridge
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No

sly obsidian
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@shrewd dirge so how do I know what missions have secondary objectives or something like that cause I know A1 doesn’t but for example how would I know B1 has secondary objectives?

shrewd dirge
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from the rundown screen, click a mission without entering it, then wait for the animations to finish

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also read the flavortext for an idea of what the floor will be like.

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fog, spitters, ammo information, enemies, etc.

queen wasp
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How difficult is B3? What is the approximate duration, considering the team is decent.

queen wasp
queen wasp
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Is it that quick? Even with PE?

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Maybe I'm overestimating this run lol

viscid wolf
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PE is 1:10 to 1:30 assuming you know everything there is

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ofc blind runs are going to be longer

daring pollen
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can people connect to your lobby if the game's already started with 3 bots?

queen wasp
daring pollen
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as in with the invite code

queen wasp
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Yes

daring pollen
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cool ty

queen wasp
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Just make sure they don't join during the full team scans cause the scan won't progress until they drop in.

viscid wolf
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burst is better than shotgun blind right

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or I guess I would like to know comparisons for both general and blind usage

minor fractal
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Burst and sniper are both just plain good, sniper is probably optimal if you have a proactive bio.

viscid wolf
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how bout shotgun

minor fractal
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Low ammo.

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Maybe if you expect to have lots of tool

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but don't take it blind.

viscid wolf
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aight

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so burst is best?

fierce oracle
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Burst doesn’t have symbiosis

viscid wolf
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but its still strong right?

fierce oracle
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Sniper sentry kills faster if pings

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Yes

viscid wolf
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ah I see

fierce oracle
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Proactive bio = sniper
Otherwise burst

viscid wolf
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so if you have a bio main on your team sniper is the way to go?

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okay god it

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what does the increased efficiency on the desc mean

fierce oracle
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They use less ammo

viscid wolf
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how does that work

fierce oracle
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I already updated it on the wiki so I don’t have to paste a wall of text here if you are interested

viscid wolf
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oo send please

drifting mauve
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dusk

fierce oracle
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It lowers the bullet cost of of shot so it takes less ammo out of the sentries inventory

viscid wolf
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oh I see

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but

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one bullet

drifting mauve
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No but

viscid wolf
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me when the sniper shoots a bullet but the display stays the same

fierce oracle
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Sentry pages are updated with stats too

viscid wolf
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I get it but don't get it

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those air bullets go zoom

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do you know the time changes for sniper

fierce oracle
viscid wolf
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oh alright thanks

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wait so it goes from 2 seconds to 1.4?

fierce oracle
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2.8 > 1.4

viscid wolf
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oh wow

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holy shit

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thats kind of insane

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wait detection from 4 to 1?

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wow

fierce oracle
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Yeah

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Shit is broke

minor fractal
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~1.4x ammo, too.

open fossil
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Vemon Symbiote goes kinda crazy

viscid wolf
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I was expecting like a 30% reduction across the board

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not 25million%

fierce oracle
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Math is weird

open fossil
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Basically upgrades your sentry from a level 1 to a level 3. Now all it's missing is the rockets

viscid wolf
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basically playing bloons at this point

fierce oracle
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150/(13 * 0.285 * 0.7)

viscid wolf
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what that

fierce oracle
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Calculation for the bullet cost vs pinged targets

viscid wolf
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ah

sly obsidian
viscid wolf
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secondary x7

minor hedge
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yo who tf ddosed my server i cant start or join lobbies :'

gleaming pike
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how long is b3?

craggy pier
pulsar sage
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main icon is in discord aswell🙂

sly lynx
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In B3 can you "dodge" the ||infected fog||? Or the only way is ||fog repeller/definfection kit||?

woeful kiln
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the only way to avoid fog is by using fog repellers
else you can just Cope.
you can always check for disinfect items in the level.

dry pumice
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Anti infection boosters.

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If you get a +90% one - you can pretty much chill in fog.

rigid sinew
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some parts you can potentially jump around and avoid the fog

sly lynx
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Yeah, i just hoped you can get better results if you are "smart" (today i tried for like 30 minutes some shenanigans with the fog just to find out if im just missing something)

rigid sinew
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nope, it's mostly using repellers and fast stealth

sly lynx
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Looks like i just need to be faaaast boi and use repellers

rigid sinew
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or you can shoot up all the rooms PirateSimon

sly lynx
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Sad but at least a nice new thing to see, i was worried every level will be same but every level so far adds something new which is cool

dusk dragon
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anyone knows if the ai of the enemies changed from r6 to r7?

tacit remnant
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Right, I’m still kind of new, how does one use the terminal?