gtfo-related-questions

[tight drum]

i have a fondness for D2 personally but if I was gonna be completely objective D3 is probably the most well designed.

D4 has that really cool mechanic tho

[sudden burrow]

D-tier is overall solid imo, though the majority of DX is definitely… Less than solid, yeah

[surreal topaz]

uhhh funness factor, we dont need the most difficult

we just tried d4 and it was sussy

did not end well

[tight drum]

How did ya'll get?

[surreal topaz]

stairs is a poular one

uhh first alarm

we died

[tight drum]

Oh the s u r g e

[surreal topaz]

they just were on us we didnt know where they came from

[compact pebble]

1st alarm is the hardest part of the level

[tight drum]

maybe.

[surreal topaz]

does the error go off soon after that>?

[compact pebble]

yes

[tight drum]

You're in for a ride.

D4 has a really crazy cool mechanic never seen before.

You'll see after the surge.

[compact pebble]

d3 is fun for me

[tight drum]

Also funness and difficulty are related. But i'd still say D3 objectively.

[compact pebble]

d3 sneaky sneaky

[tight drum]

I just love D2 for the rooms at the end.

[surreal topaz]

ok we gonna work on d3

[tight drum]

The dark one

[compact pebble]

the spooky zone

sussy zone

[tight drum]

Also only one of the three i've been able to duo.

D3 though

[surreal topaz]

we got the squad rn

[tight drum]

We're coming for you

[surreal topaz]

and possibly another night this weekend

[compact pebble]

glhf

[surreal topaz]

any suggestions for tools? we just using our default 2 sentry/bio/mine

[tight drum]

well good luck yeah

[compact pebble]

d3 be the level you can really blame someone for xD

[tight drum]

Bio

[surreal topaz]

oh no

[compact pebble]

2 bio-tracker is viable

[surreal topaz]

i mean i love reactors personally

[tight drum]

is necessary

[surreal topaz]

OH

wait i rememebr the flavor text

"split up"

[tight drum]

one of the main two strats.

[surreal topaz]

so 2 bio 2 sentry?

[tight drum]

id bring mines.

[compact pebble]

some people say it's dumb but then get wiped cuz 1 bio issue

[tight drum]

a few alarms and a few blood doors.

[compact pebble]

mine deployer, sentry/bio tracker

[surreal topaz]

so 2 bio 1 mine 1 sentry orr

[compact pebble]

yessir

or 2 sentry 1 bio

cfoam is meh

[tight drum]

Your bio has to be top notch if you go that way though.

i prefer having two bio. But different people do things differently.

[surreal topaz]

we gonna try 2 bio 1 mine 1 sentry

[compact pebble]

2 bio just make things easier

[tight drum]

especially for overload

When you're blind.

[compact pebble]

have fun

[surreal topaz]

well what we prob gonna do is just try main, then we can work toward PE another effieciency another night

[tight drum]

agreed.

[compact pebble]

yeah

good idea

[tight drum]

PE makes main a lot harder. I won't tell you how but it's good to know the level well.

very well.

[surreal topaz]

well it went

we pulled a room accadentally and the mine deployer memed on me trying to place the mine on the door

or we woulda made it furthur

but i can see how uhhh

yea silent moment

[surreal topaz]

was the mechanic flyers spawning in the ground? Kappa

[tight drum]

No

After the surge alarm.

[sudden burrow]

That’s just their home

[tight drum]

You'll see.

The data cube is corrupted.

[surreal topaz]

i saw it seemed to be corrupted

[tight drum]

Not the tank room...?

[surreal topaz]

nomegalul we lost to 1 scout going off

we dont have that much practice with shadows

[sudden burrow]

d’oof

[tight drum]

ahh gotcha. that can be bad near all the respawn rooms.

[surreal topaz]

ppl were moving/lighting and he eventually just screamed when we were going to the scout

[sudden burrow]

Yeah they don’t show up much in R6, or much at all usually

[tight drum]

Yeah they take some practice.

Just go slow..

have bio check their locations.

[surreal topaz]

yea i called it out but it was ignored too much and he just kept going

i was gonna try to find him but i couldnt

it was in teh zone right after the c6 alarm

[tight drum]

Oof. yeah I know the one. another idea is to have contingency measure.

Like keep the sniper sights on the scout in case someone messes up you can at least avoid an extra wave.

[surreal topaz]

our contingency was me not messing up the mine, cuz that woulda taken out most and then we coulda cleaned up

yea we usually do that

he was behind cover mostly tho

[tight drum]

Yeah it can also trigger other scouts in that zone too.

Which can create a real bad chain reaction.

But after that part is the first of the split up bits.

Really good!

[surreal topaz]

awww we almost got to the split up

[tight drum]

Haha yeah. But that's just how it goes sometimes. I'm sure you'll get it eventually.

[surreal topaz]

yea we got into that first room with the uhhh you know, and then i started figuring out all the little things ppl have said about it

how "1 person can ruin it" or "stealth required"

i assume the big bois respawn

ummm i dont wanna spoil too much for myself but would it be bad if each split grp had a sniper in it? or is that a bad idea

[tight drum]

Yup everything does. Two tanks many hybrids giants and others. it's a really bad room to wake up.

[tight drum]

Umm for the first one it doesn't matter too much.

But later there is a split up point where that is useful.

At least for one group..

[surreal topaz]

we plan on prob just beating main to get a feel for lvl and then see if they want to do more

[tight drum]

Yeah there are multiple in main.

depending how you do it.

[surreal topaz]

ok cuz i was just thinking maybe each grp has snipe (im assuming its pairs) and then we can just split up the snipers and bada boom

[tight drum]

But the first one is pretty required.

[tight drum]

Sometimes pairs. Sometimes 1 and 3.

[surreal topaz]

ah

i assume the 1 needs to be a bio

[tight drum]

it depends on which one.

[surreal topaz]

cuz i know we have one guy whod be fine on his own

[tight drum]

Guess what I'm gonna say lol

S o m e t i m e s

[surreal topaz]

perfect

[tight drum]

it's a good reactor too. much more advanced then D1.

Some really good code spots.

[surreal topaz]

d1 was not a reactor lol imo

it was a terminal excercise for beginners

i prefer real reactors that we used to have, go find the code, blah blah

[tight drum]

Yeah that's what it is.

[sudden burrow]

Maaaan, the first reactor was the stationary hold style from D1

I like ‘em both, they can both be interesting in their own ways

[compact pebble]

R5C2 reactor hits different 😖

[surreal topaz]

like i mean d1 was fine but not really hard? just a funny alarm

[sudden burrow]

The stationary hold was entirely missing between R1 and R5, if I recall

[surreal topaz]

that was the mother at the end one right

[compact pebble]

yes

[tight drum]

I like ‘em both too but Having to find the codes is basically always more interesting.

[surreal topaz]

yea we had a lotta attempts on that bad boy

[sudden burrow]

R5D2 still my favorite reactor in terms of flavor

[tight drum]

Yeah so crazy.

[sudden burrow]

Definitely not disagreeing, but sometimes having a simpler bit is a nice change of pace

[surreal topaz]

yea having to find codes is more interesting but id prefer a stationary reactor to just a basic alarm

i suppose

[tight drum]

And I like the lore adjacent stuff when the reactor just melts down.

[sudden burrow]

god

give us more of that

[tight drum]

And they come for you

[sudden burrow]

That was the first time my squad heard that sound

we floored it

[surreal topaz]

idk if we did that one

[tight drum]

Agreed more of that times 20

[tight drum]

That level had a class 10 alarm i believe.

Or class 9

hahaha

[surreal topaz]

ok we didnt

[sudden burrow]

The second ever 9

[tight drum]

oh jeez.

[sudden burrow]

Fuckin’ M IX dim

[surreal topaz]

bruh

dont think weve done anything over a c6

[sudden burrow]

it was all blue scans

[tight drum]

purple :P

but yeah

[surreal topaz]

with things chasing you?

[sudden burrow]

Look, before they changed the name of S clusters, they were BC

That obviously means blue cluster

[tight drum]

?

[surreal topaz]

.

[tight drum]

What things?

[sudden burrow]

Nah, that was at the end, the level had a bunch leading up to the reactor

[surreal topaz]

like extraction scan type thing

[sudden burrow]

Similar level of bullshit to BX

[surreal topaz]

i did bx solo with bots

[sudden burrow]

“We need X, oh we need Y to find X, oh we need Z to find Y”

[surreal topaz]

yea i remember that room

[tight drum]

oh no that was after the reactor. The reactor basically had total system malfunction and the warden was trying to fix it remotely and eventually just said gtfo now they're coming.

[surreal topaz]

awww that woulda been sick

[sudden burrow]

Sector lost! Evacuate through zone 293 immediately!

[surreal topaz]

ill have to find a video

did you get to see "them" or was it more for flavor

[sudden burrow]

I think that’s one of the exact text popups we got

[tight drum]

yup...

[surreal topaz]

this was r5d2 right

[sudden burrow]

Yup yup

[surreal topaz]

imma look up a vid sense its old content

[tight drum]

Some people actually stayed and fought somehow.

[sudden burrow]

Most interesting parts are definitely the class IX and the reactor

It put a unique enough spin on the code hunt formula, plus the flavor

Plus the class IX is in one of my favorite tiles, which I have dubbed the swimming pool for no real reason

[tight drum]

hmm I enjoy it too.

it's in a lot of levels

[sudden burrow]

Obviously I call it that because if you did R4D2pe, you were swimming in fog by the time you got there

[surreal topaz]

oh i did that lvl

i think i know the tile

is it the big first 5 scout room from dx?

[sudden burrow]

yep

[surreal topaz]

yeaaa

[tight drum]

yeah haha

that one's like a pool too

Giants are all swimming around in it.

[latent obsidian]

I really like that tile too. They seem to use it a lot for big alarms

[sudden burrow]

It’s a good room for it, honestly

[latent obsidian]

They can guarantee the 3 way spawns with the adjacent rooms

[surreal topaz]

yea

[sudden burrow]

Makes for some good, generally chaotic alarms

It’s had an M 6, an M 9 dim, and an S1

Technically the M 6 is just a 6, but that’s only because the M classification didn’t exist at the time, lol

[nocturne pike]

Hi everyone. Me and my buddies are fairly new to the gtfo stuff and wanted some helpful advice on resource management and survival longevity? Also when does artifact heat reset?

[floral acorn]

good guide on steamcommunity.. and heat starts going up when u play other levels.. drop in, get an arty or 2, retire to lobby.. if u hunting for only bolds or aggressives, leave the muteds be.. heat comes up faster when so

[floral acorn]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2359433203

u wanna stealthily kill as much as possible so ammo and tool are not spent on simple sleeper rooms etc.. if u anticipate combat, setup a fallback in advance, if that room wakes up or that scout is set off, evdrybody run back and past these sentries etc etc

[minor fractal]

Be accurate, make good weapon choices, know what your weapons are good at and when to use them for what.

[golden bluff]

I have a Related but off topic question for anyone who can aid. I play Dungeon and Dragons, and I am wishing to do a one-shot that themed after GTFO. I've been looking for an older map that I can use for the run, but am failing at it. I don't need anything super fancy just something I can use for a map.

[minor fractal]

Special weapons have somewhat specific roles (wave clear, titan killers, and burst damage), and you want to balance these to fit the level and to conserve ammunition.

[nocturne pike]

Weapons is a big consideration in the squad right now. I run the mastaba with the DMR to maximize each shot. With everyone else running pistol with sniper, helgun, and heavy assault.

[neon gust]

You should probably consider, bringing weapons that are not necessarily "efficient" if you have all guys running pistol unless everyone knows how to aim like a madman then i would suggest more cc and puke bullet guns like AR/SMG etc

forget about it, i just remember we are in r6

[nocturne pike]

Any weapon suggestions for main or even specials? Trying to have decent damage output with ammo efficiency hency why I personally use the mastaba. I love it so far

[tardy ingot]

Yeah. Even for beginners who often suffer with just not playing well the ammo abundancy makes it a lot less serious

[nocturne pike]

By the way. Excellent guide. Was really helpful

[neon gust]

I usually recommend covering niche's and distances more than guns that kill because ive mostly seen people fall into that "meta" but end up suffering more because of the lack of other factors they have to consider (example in r5: everybody running hel rifle and dmr)

I dont see anything wrong with your setup apart from like replacing the revolver with a pump shotgun so you can compensate lack of cqc with dmr ||(hell you can flip it around and have saw off/revolver really fun loadout, just make sure you aim at the body for the one shot bodyshot on strikers with saw off)||

And like i said other primaries, like for real, if you all running pistol apart from you then you might consider, bullpup/ar/hel revo

[neon gust]

its not even the ammo, the ammo its mostly consistent like with other rundowns, the fact that zones are shorters make its so that you get more value out of your ammopack

4 use ammo in a zone thats like 3 rooms its pretty much super easy to make last

that and the zones are not packed since the distribution fix

[weary mesa]

every other door do be a security scan sequence

imagine C1 error with the key door being a class 4

Wouldn't actually be that bad cause you can just permafoam it

But it would require you to use more resources

[tardy ingot]

Instead of going over all the weapons ill just go into detail on how to improve some stuff, since guns rly dont matter as much as you might think they do.

1. know. what. tools. do
   Tools are way stronger than guns when dealing with alarms. A single mine on a cfoamed door can kill the whole wave. 2 well placed burst sentries can decimate most of a wave to a trickle. A biotracker helps in not getting as overwhelmed and suprised. THis makes alarms a lot easier (and biotracker as an important af tool just makes stealth easier)
2. learn stealth to secure ammo. you can pretty much stealth all rooms in this rundown (with some rare exceptions on later enemies)
3. learn how to use terminals (list a zone, ping the packs) to find all the ressource you missed
4. ammo balance (dont have 10/90%) your special gets more % per pack. Dont waste it
5. use your guns for what its intended MOST of the time (due to point 4.) Dont fire an smg into a giant if you have a sniper in the squad (which btw is a rly broken weapon to have 1 guy carry). Dont fire with a machine pistol in long range

Obviously efficiency and time to kill are important. Hel revolver and dmr are insanely busted with good aim. But pretty much every weapon is good
The only guns i wouldnt recommend are sawed off/machine pp since they have awful range and are very polarizing stat wise (low ammo, high dmg and high ammo, low dmg)

For specials just try to mix it up for whats needed. A single sniper is pretty much never wrong in rundown 6. Heavy ar/hel gun for wave clear on smalls (machine gun if you like it more).
Shotgun is a superb all rounder
Revolver is a high precision weapon, either you headshot or you dont and its a bit yikes

But just play what you feel comfortable with and then try to learn the other parts of the game. Its not that hard to make even "non meta" loadouts work

[tardy ingot]

yeah zone size and enemy numbers
i recently compared b1s room numbers per zone to r5a1 and r4a1. its pretty insane

[neon gust]

yeah, i love how we went from like 15 in a single room to like 15 evenly spread

truly makes a different

[neon gust]

i will fight you on saw off

and machine peepee

[tardy ingot]

machine pp is such a sad auto pp excuse man

sawed off is just a weird thing. They rly need to give it a palpative buff

[neon gust]

Just aim head

[tardy ingot]

while hugging the enemy

[neon gust]

saw off its good, it just needs to be more consistent since the spread and fall off hurts it

[neon gust]

you dont have to shoot at 4m

you can beam down people at 9 meters and such

pretty good range for having almost 600 bullets

its mostly a hold click forget your head exist on machine pistol

[tardy ingot]

thats what i mean. A gun like this NEEDS consistency. Its just too bad with 3 bullets if it isnt consistently good at 1 shotting

[neon gust]

well, either we gotta advocate for less spread, or head bug fix 😔

[tardy ingot]

for machine pp. eh, if i shoot an enemy at 9 meters with it then i could just use an actual weapon to shoot it there

its very cool to wipe down some enemies in close range tho. I just dont like the feel of its aim tho

[weary mesa]

Just rework it like pistol

No brain gang

Stagger on every hit

[tardy ingot]

so auto pistol?

a whole other point

i sure hope they dont remove heavy ar

i just cant deal with machine gun charge up man
Nerf heavy ar if you want to but i just want a freaking full auto which i can control and tap fire if needed

[weary mesa]

Machine gun

[neon gust]

Machinegun its crazy good tho

[weary mesa]

Charge up is really the only downside

[dry pumice]

Yes, it is

[tardy ingot]

oh i know

its just one of three guns i dont like using due to how it feels

revolver, machine gun and carbine

[neon gust]

I do understand carabine tho

never liked the gun\

[dry pumice]

Its not that bad, it's basically angrier burst rifle

[tawdry path]

man i am struggling on d1, are you just supposed to bolt it for zone 90 after the reactor startup is over?

[icy nacelle]

Once you finish the reactor you should head back to the main room and you now have access to the security door on the opposite side that was previously locked. Just be careful with the respawn rooms.

[tawdry path]

whats the name of the enemy that shows up after the reactor start up is over?

its almost as if you need to get behind it to do damage

the big boy i mean

[stark spade]

A tank?

[tawdry path]

is that what it is called? it seems more bulbous than the image of the tank on the wiki

like more bumps on its back

[neon gust]

yeh, thats the tank

chonky boy

[tawdry path]

tank is confirmed, read the description on the wiki

i think i need to handle d1 with players instead of bots, cuz i am gassed at the end of the reactor startup and after watching videos of r6d1 on YT thats not even like halfway...

i will say i think i get gassed by the end of that reactor startup because i try to eliminate every enemy between the start of the mission and the reactor startup... is it better to just by pass all of those enemies to get to the reactor startup?

[tardy ingot]

you definetly dont have to kill the enemies in the zone with the fleshy things on the ceiling (respawn rooms)
It all depends on how you kill the others. Meleeing doesnt take ressources so it doesnt matter much

For the tank itself. A sniper can deal with him quite easily (even from the front) as you only need to pop a few tumors to kill him with it and it does 1 per hit shot

[tawdry path]

i know the fleshy things are passive enemies, i have left them alone

for the rest of the enemies, i deal with them normally: melee the normal dudes and snipe the larger ones before moving onto the next room

but since im playing with bots, i take care of like 90 percent of the enemies before getting to the reactor startup, and then once that starts the bots actually begin to contribute to the fight

for the reactor startup, i set up the burst sentries in a cross formation to create a cross fire zone right before the last door to the room with the REACTOR_VERFIY terminal. i place trip mines along the straightaway and the door while also placing c-foam at the base of the door to catch enemies and pick them off

this gets me to the end of the REACTOR_VERIFY process, but then i get boned by the tank running back as well as the other big buys that respawn on the way back to zone 90

[dry pumice]

Yeah, tanks are made far easier by proper squadmates

Discord hates the B-word apparently... Cringe.

Anyway, a proper team can split into 2 duos and surround him. When he turns to one - the other opens fire.

With the proper team also the 3 people with turrets can fend off any incoming attacks on that straight line bridge.

The only real issue here are goddamn fliers who keep zerg rushing the killzone.

The real issue of that level is pre-final scan.

Any mistakes you'll make in first 80% of the level will cost you dearly on that stupid scan.

Oh and uh... Don't bring sniper turrets. Just don't.

[tawdry path]

so do you recommend going 3 burst sentries and c-foam, or 3 sentries and a mine deployer?

[dry pumice]

Urgh, that's a hard question...

Honestly? 3 bursts and cfoam

I'm pretty sure Cfoam is the reason my squad won that

And you should be the cfoamer

[tawdry path]

yeah ive learned bots are ass at placing c foam

[dry pumice]

There will be some stupid-tight hallways in that prefinale bit and with good Cfoam spray you can effectively block off a horde for good

... Sleepers can bodyblock each other, right?...

[tawdry path]

no idea

i have seen sleepers go right through each other when running at me

[tardy ingot]

they arent actually "enemies". They just serve as an indicator that the enemies you kill in that room will respawn when you get 2 rooms (and a zone) away from them

id recommend giving a bot a bio tracker and skipping on using the mines and cfoam for the reactor

hold on the straight catwalk right outside the reactor (and place the sentries there). You have to run in for the codes but holding is easier as you see the enemies straight up

[tardy ingot]

id actualyl recommend taking 2 burst sentries, mines and a bio tracker (just so you know where enemies come from (and bots are cheating with it)

mines are very very good for a specific alarm you have to do. (you get a ton of cfoam nades in the reactor, so you can use them on the doors for alarms which you want to mine then)

the 2 burst make the reactor easy, help with all alarms (tho not that much) and can help with the ending

cfoam litteraly only has 1 fringe use (for the alarm he is talking about) and its very risky to do so with the charge up time if you dont know where to splurge it in advance when playing with bots

bots are very good at shooting so if you pull your weight and do the scans with them you should be alright

[manic knoll]

BX: Dust

we are in zone 20a and cant find the terminal with the override for zone 17, any ideas?

[tardy ingot]

In case you still havent found it:
the terminal is in zone 15
but you need a password for it

[gilded meadow]

So there's no hope of the Tigris helmet from the previous expedition coming back whatsoever huh?

[thorny creek]

It might come back, but without the tiger stripe thing.

[gilded meadow]

I see. I'm just not a fan of the whole FOMO content design in any game, though I understand they want some drive to get people to play. Great example of good exclusive content designs especially for cosmetics would be Deep Rock Galactic.

[surreal topaz]

to fix sound bug do i HAVE to restart game?

[compact pebble]

prob yes

[sudden burrow]

what sound bug? there's more than one, I think

[surreal topaz]

there are more then one

ive gotten 2 different ones in the matter of just a few days

[sudden burrow]

The main one I run into is when you wipe with the map open, it gets stuck with the muffled map audio on the next drop - you can just open and close the map to fix that, but restarting also fixes it

[wary bay]

what are you guys supposed to do if you don't feel comfortable using vc but you still want to play with other people?

[compact pebble]

use lfg to look for a game but don't post vc i guess?

[wary bay]

thanks

[compact pebble]

just say you are using in-game chat

[wary bay]

oh okay

[latent obsidian]

how many enemies are in a normal alarm wave (if no giants)?

[distant ice]

Varies from alarm to alarm

Settings are rarely the same

[minor fractal]

Most common iirc ramps from 17 to 25.

[worthy siren]

how much health does a baby have?

[neon gust]

4 afaik

[worthy siren]

k thanks

[minor fractal]

Thought it was 5?

[stark spade]

it's five

[worthy siren]

Baby hp is 4

[stark spade]

nope, it's 5

[worthy siren]

ok

[merry helm]

im always getting lost and dont know where to go. how do i fix that?

[dry pumice]

Terminals, door markings, map

[merry helm]

it doesent help

even in the first level

[dry pumice]

Use terminals to get info on where the object is, if possible

[merry helm]

but idk where those are

[rigid sinew]

have you tried looking at doors

[dry pumice]

Let's use A1 as an example

[merry helm]

yes

[rigid sinew]

then?

[merry helm]

thats the one im one

[dry pumice]

There is a terminal in the big cave - it's on the opposite side from where you spawn and emits an annoying noise

[merry helm]

what do they look like?

[dry pumice]

Big screen on a stand, about as tall as a human

[merry helm]

ok

[rigid sinew]

green

[stuck orchid]

Red and green borders around the screen, should be hard to miss

[merry helm]

thx

[dry pumice]

If you touch the big security door it will tell you that you need a key for it

[merry helm]

what foor?

*door

[dry pumice]

The one opposing your spawn point

I could swear you can even see it as you spawn maybe.

It's on the opposite side of the big cave.

If you approach it - it will tell you to find a key.

Then if you find the terminal nearby - it will teach how to use QUERY commands to find locations of items

[merry helm]

what is query?

[dry pumice]

Specifically it will tell you what ZONE it is in.
There is 2 other doors on the sides of the cave. The key randomly spawns behind one of them. The numbers on the doors tell you to which zone(s) they lead.

[merry helm]

ok

[dry pumice]

I would post screenshots but I'm busy for now

Either that or maybe I could join your game to try and crash course you, if you understand English with accent.

[merry helm]

this game is conmplicated imma just look up a totorial

[dry pumice]

Yeah, that might be best. Either that or a tutor.

[bold atlas]

So you can kill charger scouts with one hit with the hammer if you fully charge and hit them in the back right?

[floral acorn]

nope

[tight drum]

You gotta be into the mechanics. Basically just walk up to the terminal: type help: then type commands and it will explain everything important.

[floral acorn]

need 1.51x melee booster or iix pauwaah

[wooden osprey]

nope but if you got a yellow syringe you can

[tight drum]

you need two fully charged hammers.

[bold atlas]

so... its better to just use a sniper right?

[floral acorn]

4 blobs cfoam, run behind, time for 2 full bonks or 8 full knives

[bold atlas]

hm

[tight drum]

unless there are multiple yeah.

But sniper has to be to the back

[floral acorn]

sniper gets a winning ticket unless u miss back :)

[tight drum]

or it wont kill.

[bold atlas]

srsly??

the back?

[tight drum]

but in about 90% of their uses this rundown there are several charger scouts.

Yeah

Back damage is 2x

[bold atlas]

fuak

[tight drum]

they're tough

[bold atlas]

I guess Cfoam and beating their ass is the best shot

[tight drum]

use C foam to practice double hammering

then when you get really good you can sycronize

and do it without it.

[floral acorn]

d2 room i advise cfoam and abort if another approaches.. itll thaw and continue being annoying :)

they dont mind freezing and un-

[bold atlas]

if I were to time it with someone, what is the time of window between the two hammers?

before alerting it

[mossy aurora]

Take scattergun and you can blast it anywhere from like 5+m away

[tight drum]

about 1.5 seconds

maybe less

[mossy aurora]

No it's way shorter than that

[floral acorn]

less than 0.6

[bold atlas]

.-. damn

[floral acorn]

if say

bonkbonk.

[mossy aurora]

Depends on who's hammering too, if host is hammering and hits first, second hammer has a really small window

[tight drum]

oh well i have a bad judge of short time periods lol

[mossy aurora]

If client is hammering it's more lenient

[pearl nimbus]

Yeah I was going to say .6 is nothing with latency

[floral acorn]

sync delay w flashlights beforehand

[tight drum]

it feels long enough.

I like it.

:)

[floral acorn]

3 2 1 hit, client hits on h, host hits a tad later

[bold atlas]

it aint long enough for my poor skills man ;-;

[pearl nimbus]

Even with moderate latency it can add .4 to .75 to an actioin

[tight drum]

Use C foam.

[floral acorn]

is rough for me too, ive had several skillectomies

[pearl nimbus]

Good luck then >_>

[tight drum]

it really helps

[mossy aurora]

You can use the chat wheel thing

[tight drum]

and you can normally afford it.

[mossy aurora]

There's a "3,2,1, go"

Voice line

[tight drum]

or you could just say that.

[mossy aurora]

Discord voice has delay

[tight drum]

ah

[bold atlas]

mmmmmmmmm

[tight drum]

it's 3-5 blobs of foam.

not too bad.

[bold atlas]

we are mostly failing with the error alarm in D2 and we keep on alerting the scouts accidentally XD

[tight drum]

unless you have D2 like rooms where there are 2. 3. or 6 in every room where they appear lol.

[tight drum]

at the end?

after the blood door?

[bold atlas]

we try to do the error alarm first but then we fail with not enough cfoam to cover the door for some reason and we give up after a few tries and try the rooms with scouts

[bold atlas]

no at the start XD

[floral acorn]

outrunning the scout no fun but outrunning the tendrils easy

cfoam, u can also lay a floor foam trap

one steps in, bonkytime

[tight drum]

ohh the one with the spitters? and like 6 of em?

[bold atlas]

wait the floor works??

I did not know that

[tight drum]

if they step on it yeah

[floral acorn]

yes, have enough

[bold atlas]

mhhmm

[floral acorn]

and....

spitters freeze too :) 1 blob.

if they get annoyimg, turm them off for a few minutes

[bold atlas]

I see

[tight drum]

That one is really fun. Remember you don't need to get them all. But it's hard to get the terminals without at least 3 dying.

[mossy aurora]

You have to really manage your tool refill kits if you want to keep that door foamed the whole time during that alarm door

[floral acorn]

(thats a bit wasteful, foam is not tool hungry, its tool Starving)

[bold atlas]

ah right I forgot that

[mossy aurora]

There's a 3 use tool in the zone right before the error, that should be held by the cfoamer

[tight drum]

or have sniper sentry outside and hold for the first few waves. Then hold with foam for the last ones.

Sniper sentry rocks for D2. Open spaces and chargers.

[bold atlas]

is it enough to hold the door during the scan room during the error alarm

[floral acorn]

if u boost, glu-p really helps, just spray at least 3, otherwise wasted..

[bold atlas]

ah

[mossy aurora]

Assuming you're doing the mother room, you will have 9 uses of tool up until that point. If you aren't wasting foam for the T scan, it will be enough foam

[floral acorn]

3 tool is enuff if scanners scan quick, then mine guy zooms to mine the door after

[tight drum]

I wouldn't rely on that. You need to be able to deal with that stuff anyway.

[mossy aurora]

Also sentries outside doors, cringe

[tight drum]

no no

Don't shut it.

have one or two people hold for a little while

[bold atlas]

which one was the T scan again..?

[tight drum]

Then foam and shut it for the last two

[tight drum]

T is for Travelling

[floral acorn]

good advice ^

[bold atlas]

im willing to be cringe to beat this level

[bold atlas]

ahh

[tight drum]

The orange one

[mossy aurora]

Cringe as in it's a bad strategy

[tight drum]

How?

[bold atlas]

wait how

[mossy aurora]

Complete waste of sentry ammo to have it outside a foamed door

[tight drum]

i'm saying wait to shut it

[bold atlas]

ahh

[tight drum]

:(

[bold atlas]

its best to just kill them with one or two mines right?

[tight drum]

Yes

[floral acorn]

d2 fun after cscouts, error is horrible but after that its smooth jazz

[tight drum]

But only if you have enough foam

i'm saying something different.

[bold atlas]

So... all the tool refill packs found in the mother room and the rooms before the Error alarm should go to cfoam right?

[mossy aurora]

The way you want to do that part is you clear the room with the alarm door, wait by the door you're going to foam, let the error wave spawn, clear it. As soon as the error wave is cleared, close and foam the door then start the alarm

[tight drum]

Not the way i've ever done it tbh. The foam tends to run out around wave 3.

[mossy aurora]

You don't want to foam the door as the error wave is coming or else you won't be able to keep it foamed when you do the initial team scan by the security door

[tight drum]

Yeah that's true

[floral acorn]

another strat is door open, sentry, 1 helgun, 2 ammopacks

[tight drum]

But it's better to use some ammo on shooting the wave a little bit then all that tool.

[latent obsidian]

Yep I've done it exactly as RyK describes pretty much every time

[tight drum]

that's what i'm saying.

But mixing.

[latent obsidian]

Except one time with a hel gun cos a monke let the door break

[bold atlas]

lel monke

[floral acorn]

yeh.. we got the permafoam way last time alltho glu-p most likely made it

[bold atlas]

I would do this, but my friends including me are all monkes and shooting is not our best skill

[mossy aurora]

For tool distribution, you generally use 2-3 mines in mother zone for the blood doors, and sentry for the T scan. Most people will refill the sentry up with those tools, but you don't need to. You can save all the tool for cfoam, then use the tool in the error zone for the sentries later

[floral acorn]

sniper sentry cpu speed " 🤡 "

[bold atlas]

Ah, do you think it is best to bring a burst or sniper?

[mossy aurora]

So you can start that alarm with 6 uses of tool on people which is way more than enough to keep it Perma foamed

[floral acorn]

the "c2 secondary for the hard of skilling"

[bold atlas]

😮 i see

[floral acorn]

i would do burst but both are good

[mossy aurora]

Both work I think, I'm not sure if sniper is better for the flier part because of the range

[bold atlas]

ah

Thank you for thy help

[floral acorn]

anytime, good luck

[mossy aurora]

Also what bluebot is saying is true, you can shoot it for the first part, but if you're struggling with the level I'm assuming you're going to have more difficulty holding 10 chargers coming at you at once than keeping a door cfoamed

[pearl nimbus]

hey all my bots are going to die to a tank correct? Or was that just a fluke? I guess I'm asking if I'll need to handle him myself in a bot run.

[viscid wolf]

basically

[pearl nimbus]

They all dropped in like 3 seconds the first time I ran into him. lol okay

Thinking I'm going to be the one with the mines then

No way I'll be able to ping off a head level mine before they drop

[viscid wolf]

yeah they aren't designed to dodge the feelers

so they just kind of shoot at his body

and then die

[pearl nimbus]

Lol yeah...

Was funny to watch though I will say that xD

'He's a wreckin' machine!'

[floral acorn]

tank w 3 bots is a lot of mines or a sentry aiding u and ur sniper rifle.

[pearl nimbus]

Yeah I'm going to level him with a bunch of high up mines

[floral acorn]

elevation helps, dem bubblees stick out when u higher than him

hinoki d3pe 3bots, he kills 4 up from the catwalks

[pearl nimbus]

That guy is a super freak lol. I watch some of his vids when I'm stuck.

[floral acorn]

ruthless man :(

[pearl nimbus]

I meant it in a good way!

On a diferent level I meant

[floral acorn]

genius he is.

snipes a bot and leaves him down to block respawn etc. phew.

[pearl nimbus]

O: that IS pretty clever!

[floral acorn]

gotta b smart to botsolo that nightmare

but good luck on the tank, he'll die :)

[pearl nimbus]

ty! I'm ready this time! 😄

[pearl nimbus]

Would allowing people to unlock modular gun components through using a weapon (time based, kills, whatever you decide I suppose) that only really change surface aspects of the gun like stock design, scope design, clip etc etc give people a grind and let them feel like their different without making gun balancing an absolute nightmare?

[rigid sinew]

trick question

[floral acorn]

hel rifle scope on a sniper?

[rigid sinew]

is it a correctly balanced system? it would be pretty fine
is it a mess and creates a [censored] meta where people just use a set of components? hell no

[pearl nimbus]

It would have to be strictly non gameplay changing imo

Like just cosmetic really

[rigid sinew]

ah

well that's pretty obvious I guess

[pearl nimbus]

Just a common complaint from my friends is having no progression system. And I'm wondering if that would be a sort of "easy" fix.

Guns dont change how they fire or work. But it allows you to still customize them and tweak them a little

[rigid sinew]

On certain sense, yeah I guess

people really like seeing their shinny collectible items

[pearl nimbus]

Indeed. Indeed.

[rigid sinew]

is it realistic to expect 10cc to add that at any point? mayhaps, like a quarter of expectation :troll:

it worked with the apparel system to quite an extent

[boreal harness]

Hi guys! Some of my friends and I are planning to do CX later tonight, and we have all completed at least BX. One of our friends wants to join, but has not completed anything in the rundown other than A1. If one of us hosts, will he still be able to join us? Furthermore, if he is able to join us and we complete it, will he get the credit for it?

[wooden osprey]

yes he can join you

[desert falcon]

He will be able to join no problem and will get the completion as well.

[wooden osprey]

and yes he will

[desert falcon]

^^

[boreal harness]

Thank you guys!

[pearl nimbus]

How many mines should it take to down a tank? I think I was doing it wrong. Got him but I end up using the height trick to get a vantage point on his tumours.

[drifting mauve]

Hey, probably not the first to ask, but what is this monster?

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-gif-21071858

Looked on the wiki, but couldn’t find anything

[floral acorn]

i believe it was supposed to be called the snatcher but it hasn't been seen in the game since that video

[floral acorn]

some say 7, some say 11, i say "all of them" 🙂

[pearl nimbus]

Damn okay I think I did it right then. I hit him with about 7

[floral acorn]

d1 tank is hard to mine duo to time pressure, d4 tank.. ... ah well.. let's not go there

[drifting mauve]

I see, thanks hirnukuono

[floral acorn]

and u wanna diversify so that mines hit diff bubbles

[pearl nimbus]

gotcha. I dont think I was alternating sides very much. That could probably have gone better

I managed to scattergun him over the railing by playing peekaboo

[floral acorn]

@eternal bridge has killed a lot of tanks solo, i believe he favors a sniper sentry to hit his back and then elevate

scatter or sniper almost necessary, alltho all the weapons theoretically work

i've killed my share w/ dmr + har, alltho not alone

[pearl nimbus]

good tip with the elevation tho. Helped a lot.

[floral acorn]

all i know are the vids 😄 .. and common sense, get a glimpse of a bubble he would otherwise hide with his hulk

when the tank storms up the stairs, that's no fun tho 😄

[pearl nimbus]

No I was freaking several times lol

[floral acorn]

but now u've done it, iz gud

[eternal bridge]

A sniper sentry is better solo since tanks are one you like moth to a light super hard

Cuz I can hit the exposed ones while tank is facing me but the back are harder unless the tank turns

[floral acorn]

our last 2 d1 runs.. tank lived for 11 seconds and 8 seconds respectively 😄

(slow, i know)

[eternal bridge]

And our D2

Tank got destroyed upon sight

[floral acorn]

kinda feel sorry for the big guy, finally free kablooey

[worthy siren]

what you do is you grab the sledgehammer and stagger the tank whilst 1 person uses spear to melee kill the tank

or you just hammer the tank

[floral acorn]

gtfo store had skill on sale but i missed it, damn 😦

[eternal bridge]

Eh. They’re painful

[mossy aurora]

quebec....

[drifting mauve]

Uh oh

Ahem

Heyyy RyK

[dense crown]

How do I post in the game suggestions channel?

[floral acorn]

dot idea in chat or bot commands

[latent obsidian]

Whats the cooldown on the mother's ability to birth?

[ruby wasp]

Around 30s ?

Supposedly you killed babies

[nimble summit]

A question out of curiosity - why are the charging bolts and case/shell ejection ports of most of the in-game guns on the left side of the weapons, when the majority of people in the world are right handed, and even the prisoners seem to be? Just a fun observation.

[craggy pier]

What is a charging bolt

[nimble summit]

The metal rod sticking out of the side of a rifle. When it is moved back, it will allow a round from the magazine to move up, and when it moves to the front it will push the round to the chamber.

[craggy pier]

So a charging handle?

[ruby wasp]

it's named cocking handle as well iirc

[craggy pier]

Why would it matter if it's placed on the left side even if you're right handed?

[nimble summit]

Because when you carry the gun with a sling attached, the gun will be resting against your body. For right handed users the left side of the gun will be resting against the body of the user, and if the charging handle is on the left side it will dig into your flesh very uncomfortably.

[rain python]

Just cut off the charging handle ez

[nimble summit]

Good luck reloading

[craggy pier]

What if I rest the gun using the right side

[stuck orchid]

That would be impractical if you’re right-handed

[nimble summit]

Slower to raise it when you need it

[stuck orchid]

If you’re right-handed, your right hand is on the trigger. If the gun rests against you on its right side, the trigger will be on the left side

More distance to move your hand when you need to draw it

[inner field]

Don't you take out all guns at the same speed when you swap between them? Like if we're talking about miniscule fucking immersion, why do my legs never break?

[craggy pier]

I don't see how that affects any prisoners in gtfo

[nimble summit]

The only benefit of having the charging handle on the off hand side is a tiny boost in reloading speed.

[inner field]

So does it really matter like??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[nimble summit]

It isn't an issue I take seriously, just a fun observation.

[nimble summit]

No.

[modest nest]

They are game designers, not gun designers

Im pretty sure they are looking at gross stuff for enemies and aesthetic, more so than on pew pew matterial

[ruby wasp]

That simply shows they didn't give the guns as much attention as the enemies or whatever

[craggy pier]

My immersive hollow point sniper rifle

[timid vapor]

When does the rundown change

[icy cave]

When rundown 6 ends

[timid vapor]

Fair enough and when is that

[icy cave]

Roadmap says this summer.

[neon gust]

It never will 😔

[timid vapor]

👍

[distant gate]

when Jesus returns

[soft kiln]

wait til R6.75

[thorny creek]

BXY, CXY, DXY when?

[tight drum]

I still don't know why they called them X ass posed to 3 4 5.

Did anyone ever get that?

calle made it seem like there was some mysterious reason.

[wary linden]

easier to tell people they are story missions that follow each others? similar to A1-D1 🤔 the extension does focus mostly on schaffer and Sp22... while the A1-D1 mission focus more on the matter wave and just in general what was happening

[warm yew]

As opposed to* 😎

[tight drum]

Oh that makes sense I guess.

is that confirmed as why?

[wary linden]

idk that is just one way to see it

🤷

educated guess

[spark wolf]

it's a better way to separate them

so if the original levels follow a set template, the new levels don't have to match it

as was the case here

with how the optionals were set up

[shadow flower]

As they where a bit outside the regular rundown, focusing on Schaeffer and setting up the story for R7.

[tight drum]

Gotcha.

Be honest though. How much of that is an excuse to not mess up the pyramid shape😉

XD

[shadow flower]

Haha, I can neither confirm or deny that

[craggy pier]

how bad is the error alarm in d4, cell hunt for extraction

[waxen jetty]

spawn cap

[craggy pier]

thats a good sign

[tight drum]

it's a surge.

Same as the first alarm but also an error.

[rain python]

The new video is awesome but I think they should call the series “Dev Hour with… [insert name here]”

[topaz anvil]

Schaeffer confirmed appearance r7?!?!

[minor fractal]

I need to check this tbh

I'm like 90% the final error on D4 is literally just an alarm wave.

[tardy ingot]

it doesnt quite feel surge like

maybe lower spawn cap?

cuz enemys respawn very quickly but the wave size isnt that big (also hybrids can spawn)

[minor fractal]

If it's a wave to begin with, it's not a surge.

[tardy ingot]

i mean the whole enemy amount not being that big

... aka the group of enemies you can stack up

[minor fractal]

ic ic

[craggy pier]

Thanks for the misinformation

[tight drum]

Bro it acts super similarly to a surge. it was an easy mistake to make. it doesn't change much considering you just run for your life.

[nocturne pike]

question,

do you not get two rewards for doing a secondary mission and the main mission?

[past mesa]

The rewards are certain milestones if you look at the rundown screen on the right it will have the milestone that you need to complete for the next reward

[nocturne pike]

ahh i see. thank you.

do they have to be seperate missions or can they be repeated

[past mesa]

Separate missions

[nocturne pike]

ty

[past mesa]

Np good luck

[craggy pier]

Bro shadow enemies acts more or less similarly to regular enemies, it doesn't change much considering you just shoot or melee them

[sour bronze]

yo

this game is made in unity right?

[wooden osprey]

yes

[sour bronze]

How?

im tryna make stuff in unity

i have cube

and thats about it

[wooden osprey]

yeah but they are shadows they are meant to be surprise enemies or harder to stealth

[wooden osprey]

lets just call it devs are built different

🙂

[wooden osprey]

also they are slower

and easier to dodge sometimes

(with a bio tracker)

[sour bronze]

yea

try doing d3 without a bio

hell

[craggy pier]

Super similarly

[wooden osprey]

meh they still pose a challenge to us players

time to time that is

[spark wolf]

slower, they don't strafe, they have more head/limb hp

[eternal bridge]

Fuck shadows lol! They’re a nightmare for me…

Despite having a Biotracker… I CANT get close to them unless I found a way to deal with the noise detection problem (so far… I have yet to find one)

[tight drum]

if you turn up your shadow settings really high it helps with seeing them a lot.

[eternal bridge]

I was more referring to “stealth killing” or getting closer to them without waking them. Using Light is a bit of a hard one since they’re VERY sensitive about it.

And they ONLY make noise if someone gets close

Or something

[tight drum]

You can use powerful flashlights to sync em and then you'll know for sure none of them will be up? That could help maybe. You're right that it's difficult.

[eternal bridge]

Nope. Done that many times… they still wake up every time I attempt to move close to them

[tight drum]

damn

[eternal bridge]

All cuz I can’t hear when they’re making noises

[nocturne pike]

just crossed my mine. I have a mask. why do i get "infected" if i already have protective gear lol.

filters maybe just not compatible with infection fog?

[floral acorn]

not pxygen tank masks but filter masks.. and theories about infection thru skin, ears etc..

[craggy pier]

thats not how masks work

[floral acorn]

theres a cdc'y expert here, told us about filtering irritanta etc

[rigid sinew]

it's a whole rabbit hole lol

[timid vapor]

How exactly do you get more customization? Like is it certain missions, or something else?

[gleaming tree]

on the rundown check the right side of the screen. it's those milestones.

[timid vapor]

Oh also, whats the difference between yellow levels and white ones?

[gleaming tree]

yellow ones are more significant storytelling wise

thats all

[timid vapor]

ah ok

[nocturne pike]

what's everyone's thought on pinging unalerted enemies with the bio tracker? to much?

[tight drum]

And they're way easier then the current tier.

[maiden cypress]

ya

[spark wolf]

you can technically do it already as a bug

[nocturne pike]

How 2?

[rain python]

1. Coom on asleep sleeper
2. tell him a nice good night story
3. wait for him to unfoan
4. ping him when he is asleep

[craggy pier]

ping to alert team that there something is in here without visual sure

[tight drum]

it exists. its called "Hey guys there's an enemy here"

[craggy pier]

im sure the bots would love that input

[tight drum]

Bot's can't take any input?

[craggy pier]

as in they have no use of that info since they dont trigger sleepers

[tight drum]

I don't really understand? Bot's can't communicate so why bring it up?

[craggy pier]

thats what i meant, they could make them do that

[tight drum]

But why?

I guess I'm biased.

I think they should spend basically no time on bots.

Focus on making the game good for actual people

[craggy pier]

thats true

its things that i would like to see not that they are vital

[tight drum]

I suppose I'm not opposed to it. I just don't really understand bots.

in a game about teamwork and communication why add a mechanic that just makes less of that happen by definition.

Every time I've used bots it's been uhhhh

[craggy pier]

ive gotten used to em by now, i play with bots all the time

and there few things that would be nice to be added so that the bots feel smooth

[tight drum]

But why would you choose to have a less fun time?

[craggy pier]

im having fun

[tight drum]

You're having fun being less immersed and being involved in less teamwork?

Okay. Again I don't really care if people want bots because it doesn't make it easier but I still don't understand why.

[craggy pier]

its about preference

[wary linden]

You don't have the teamwork aspect with bots

AKA you lose the aspect they sell the game on with their slogan.
"Work together or die together"

Bots don't work. They just follow you around. You take all the initiatives and decision.

The only decision they take is heal you the moment you have < 80% HP lol

They WILL drop everything they are doing to heal you

you also don't have to learn some of the mechanics of the game with bots because they have special priviledges that players don't get to compensate the fact that they are that basic

stealth aggro mechanic. (doesn't matter if you wake something up far away.. they will just shoot it down "stealthly")
how to proper ping with bio
concept of resources management will be either not present or infuriating if they pick resources up... but a lot of the time you will just consume the resources and leave nothing to the bots since they can't think by themselves

[rigid sinew]

I like bots cause I can play at my preferred pace

which is stealthing like I had 3 hours at the game

[floral acorn]

recon drops w bots, actual attempts with hooman(s) later. also artifact runs. anything more complex (d2, d3, d4 etc) , nnnope. skill issue. :)

[craggy pier]

thats my main complaint about bots but most of the time doesnt matter much, well when you're not doing side objectives

[wary linden]

bots are not meant to be actual replacement of players. they are fill in ;p

[neon gust]

doesnt excuse in the status their in right now

[wary linden]

true.. but then again i think we can all agree there are issues right now that are much more worse 🙂

[neon gust]

they allways have problem and allways had "bigger issues", they just have to fix it

[wary linden]

exactly 🙂

[neon gust]

if we go by that logic then nothing gonna get done then

kekw

[wary linden]

i wouldn't mind if we had a rundown with no new feature if it gave us fixes for everything that needs it

[neon gust]

next rundown gonna add something wacky but because the "bigger issues" exist then they wont fix it

[wary linden]

can't wait to see pubs using door glitch in r7E1 cause they can't beat it normally 🙂
i got a feeling it is gonna be abuse a lot in r7

[neon gust]

the cfoam thingy?

[wary linden]

can be done without c-foam

[neon gust]

shiiiiiiiieeeeet

[wary linden]

i just have that feeling that it is gonna go more public

[neon gust]

every cheese eventually goes public

[wary linden]

and i find it funny that it still hasn't got fixed after all this time

[neon gust]

r4e1, r5e1 kekw

[neon gust]

let people abuse it

maybe then they'll fix it

[wary linden]

i find it more hilarious that this legit break the experience of the game and is still not fix... but breaking a door in a single hit.. now THAT was fix

🤣

[waxen jetty]

r7e1 abuse

[lilac fulcrum]

We initially gave the bots the ability to sync killing sleeping enemies , but found that it was WAY too powerful and impacted the gameplay too much so we ended up removing that ability during development

[empty hatch]

So what’s the difference between the auto sentry and burst sentry other thing rate of fire? The in-game info on the both shows nothing of a big difference other than that one is auto.

[jaunty bear]

@empty hatch auto sentries excel at staggering enemies

bursts are built for killing with a bit of stagger

auto sentries eat ammo fast

burst are more ammo efficient

[empty hatch]

So is there a reason I’d use the burst?

Oh I see.

[jaunty bear]

auto holds back waves very easily

burst is more popular because of its ammo efficiency and killing potential

[empty hatch]

I see

[jaunty bear]

but auto’s can hold back waves quite nicely

[empty hatch]

So the burst has more kill potential and the auto is good at delaying the wave allowing the player to stand in the circles for longer. Correct?

[jaunty bear]

yes

[empty hatch]

So then it really comes down to play style

Thanks for the quick answer!

[craggy pier]

what i meant is bots alert you of sleepers that are around them like a player would, not sure if it can be implemented but it'll be nice

[lilac fulcrum]

Hmm, interesting. We'd have to figure out when giving that info is relevant and how to relay it where it makes sense to a player. Like constantly telling you a sleeper is at 230° when you're not trying to go there could get annoying. But something to think about.

[wary linden]

i can see the issue of opening a door and having 10 sleepers right next to that door and the bots going : sleepers there with 10 different pings until you kill them all

[tight drum]

The sniper actually has the best kill efficacy But it is quite bad at holding back waves.

Unless it has the space.

[empty hatch]

I figured that was the case. I mostly use it for synced kills in rooms full of titans

I’ll place a sniper pointed at one and turn and snipe one with my sniper while my buddy blasts one with the shatter gun

Which has only been on one level so far lol

[tight drum]

For giants yes it's By far the most efficient but even for little guys the sniper sentry gets more kills per tool refill.

[tight drum]

What level was that?

Because giants are in the very first few levels.

[empty hatch]

C1 I think

There was a room full of scouts right after

It was a room with like 8 titans and then a small room with 4

Then 6 scouts

[tight drum]

ohh yes That's a tough one if you aren't prepared for it.

[empty hatch]

Yeaaaa

[craggy pier]

well u can ignore the first room and only kill the 3 or 4 giants that are in the 2nd room

[tight drum]

Trust me... it'll get worse:)

[empty hatch]

Tis what I did

I learned in that room of Scouts that Scouts break out of C-Foam very quickly

[craggy pier]

you also can ignore the scouts and go for the scan immediately if you arent in dire need of resources

all scouts last 8 secs under cfoam

more than enough to kill em

[empty hatch]

Hmm, it felt like way shorter than that

[craggy pier]

you also can do it without cfoam

[tight drum]

C scouts as well?

[craggy pier]

you can feel it when you are trying to kill charger scouts

[tight drum]

Feel's like less then that for them

[empty hatch]

We only recently discovered the weaknesses and such

Back and nape areas

[tight drum]

V important.

[empty hatch]

We were going without using the internet and my buddy was like “aight f this what’s the weakness”

[craggy pier]

head, back and occiput (back of the head) are the weak points

[empty hatch]

I call it the nape just bc of AOT lol

[tight drum]

it is generally more fun that way. But I get it.

[craggy pier]

thats fine

[tight drum]

And they are titans lol

[empty hatch]

Haha yes

But the INVIS enemies though!? So COOL

[tight drum]

Oh you got to D tier? Congrats!

Yeah the shadows sure are spoopy.

[empty hatch]

Only DX lol

I want the mask

[tight drum]

Cx for the shadows then.

[empty hatch]

Ye

[tight drum]

But Btws best 3 levels in this rundown D2 D3 and D4

By far.

[empty hatch]

I’m excited for the level where we have to split up (according to the comms)

That’s going to be terrifying and hard

[tight drum]

Hehe yeah.

You gotta be able to hold your own and not rely on everyone else.

[craggy pier]

bots

[tight drum]

it's really a great level

[empty hatch]

Lol

[tight drum]

no

[craggy pier]

😂

[tight drum]

"Hiss"

[empty hatch]

We’re currently playing “Blind”

I should mention there’s only 2 of us btw

[tight drum]

Also good lucj doing D3 PE with bots.

[tight drum]

Oh wow impressive!

[empty hatch]

Trying to tell Bishop to stop dropping his fcking battery is so hard

[tight drum]

ohh god bots.

Nooooo

"Hiss"

[craggy pier]

i decided im not touching d3 as whole with bots unless i get 1 player at least

[empty hatch]

It feels like Left4Dead

With the dumbass bots lol

[craggy pier]

soo far ive only played with bots, got all main sectors except d3

[tight drum]

Yeah this game is best played with just people. When I don't have a full team I just leave em and do it duo or trio.

[empty hatch]

I love this game bc my buddy and I will play for like 5 hours and beat one level

[tight drum]

Lol same.

[empty hatch]

“The best game you suck at”

[tight drum]

Wait till you get to D3 haha.

[empty hatch]

🙂

🥲

😢

[tight drum]

C2 blind is really good though.

it has one of the best Secondary levels.

[empty hatch]

Yes. Love the infection

Also the top right of the Rundown menu shows that there are 2 “ERROR” missions but I can’t find them

[tight drum]

Also introduces something you won't have seen before haha.

[empty hatch]

Not that we’re ready but I was just looking through and didn’t see them

[tight drum]

That's prisoner efficiency. You gain it by completing both overload and secondary in the same mission.

[empty hatch]

Ohhh

Good

[tight drum]

So only C3 and D3 have it.

[craggy pier]

i believe you mean prisoners efficiency, its not a objective, its about doing main, secondary and overload in a single run

[empty hatch]

Much hard

Ohhh

I can’t believe I missed so many Rundowns

[tight drum]

mhmm. it isn't two bad. There are very few this rundown.

[empty hatch]

I played beta and then didn’t have friends so I forgot about it until a few days ago

[tight drum]

Last two had more then double the amount.

[empty hatch]

Aww

[thorny creek]

Remember R5C2 PE?

[empty hatch]

Totally

[tight drum]

I never forget...

THe hOrRer

[thorny creek]

The thunderdome

[empty hatch]

I’m kinda sad there aren’t any E levels this time around

[tight drum]

Haha give it a few weeks.

R7 will have one on launch.

[thorny creek]

There's gonna be an E level in Rundown 7 though.

[tight drum]

Coming up soon!:)

[thorny creek]

And I'm already claiming some land in there

[empty hatch]

🙂

[tight drum]

speaking of R7 you better hurry if you want to clear this one.

[thorny creek]

Soon we'll have a timer

[tight drum]

There's likely less then a month left. But that's just speculation.

[empty hatch]

Aw shit

[thorny creek]

An actual timer.

[empty hatch]

My mask

[tight drum]

We'll know soon

Should be plenty of time.

[empty hatch]

You underestimate how turbo trash I am 😂

[craggy pier]

what you got left for the extenstion

[empty hatch]

BX, CX, DX…

😁

[thorny creek]

It's time to run then!

[tight drum]

oh haha you haven't done any? how do you know about shadows then?

[empty hatch]

My buddy beat them without me so he showed me the invisible guys

[tight drum]

Ohh

Gotcha.

[craggy pier]

BX CX arent bad, DX is the jam

[empty hatch]

We played CX once just so I could see lol

[tight drum]

They're good. Dx can be annoying if you don't have a good computer.

[empty hatch]

I also only started playing again a couple days ago

I believe I can do it I just need to play more

[thorny creek]

That level goes from DX to XD in a flick of a pen

[tight drum]

Really? maybe that one uplink.

[craggy pier]

let me tell you about my journey with 20 fps 😂

[tight drum]

But the level leading up to it is short.

[empty hatch]

I do! I suggested high res textures earlier lol

Even if it’s forever away

[tight drum]

And besides the one room it's pretty bland.

Cx is where it's at.

[empty hatch]

Word

[craggy pier]

well most of its difficulty is in the last 3 uplinks after teleport

[tight drum]

Just needed a little more

[empty hatch]

||spoilers much?||

[craggy pier]

there nothing left to spoil

[tight drum]

Ha it doesn't mean anything to you anyway.

[empty hatch]

I’m jk I read the comms for all the levels already I couldn’t help myself

[tight drum]

comms?

[empty hatch]

Where you click a level and it shows the chat of the last squad that went in

”I’m not touching that thing you do it…”
”Oh shit…”

That stuff

[tight drum]

Ohh yeah That's fine doesn't spoil anything. You're supposed to know that going in

it tells you on the drop anyway.

[tight drum]

lol

[empty hatch]

Is the pistol any good? Or is it in the game bc it’s realistic they’d give you the option?

[tight drum]

The pistol is one of the strongest primaries.

[floral acorn]

its good for close quarters, tons of ammo. not a bad weap

[empty hatch]

Oh, word

[floral acorn]

range is the only minus

[tight drum]

Maybe the Dmr and hel rev are better? Not really anything else.

Depends on what you're good at.

[empty hatch]

I use DMR

Tried revolver bc it looks cool but I’m either bad or it sucks

[tight drum]

You'll like it then

[tight drum]

it takes some getting used to but is actually really strong.

Same with machine gun

[floral acorn]

pistol also got a quick reload plus going for it

[tight drum]

The most efficient weapon technically ^

My baby

And every pistol shot staggers small and medium enemies just like Dmr

[craggy pier]

if your aim is decent u can get couple nasty shots

[tight drum]

air?

[craggy pier]

aim*

[tight drum]

oh nvm

Yeah

[floral acorn]

click on dem heads, esp shooters as their heads dont break before they die, precision inc

[tight drum]

at under 7 meters I believe the pistol can in kill three shots

[tight drum]

shooters in 2

[floral acorn]

spamming pistol at some comers usually ends surprisingly well, i do like

but dmr here too, gotta have range to comp for lack of other skills

[tight drum]

it can be good for precision and for emptying into crowds yes

[craggy pier]

hel revolver would be better

[tight drum]

depends on taste.

[empty hatch]

If I could hit my shots

[tight drum]

Yeah i remember the recoil felt absolutely awful at first for me too.

But I like it now so weird.

[empty hatch]

No no. I’m bad

[craggy pier]

long halls and narrow passages u get most value, dont have to worry much about aim

i personally dont use it

dmr or bullpup

sniper and hel gun

[tight drum]

hel rev machine gun!

[empty hatch]

Heavy

[craggy pier]

you know who handles machine gun better 😏

[empty hatch]

Heavy hel rev machine gun

[tight drum]

Machine gun is sooo good my guy

[tight drum]

who?

[craggy pier]

bots 😄

[tight drum]

oh god..

adsnajndsadns

Die.

[empty hatch]

Ooh what do you guys think of something like a crossbow but with very limited ammo. I thought about it the other day but would it really be useful?

[craggy pier]

you seem to dislike bots 🤔

😂

[tight drum]

You're really perceptive.

[craggy pier]

half life crossbow

[empty hatch]

I totally definitely played that game