this a joke if you didnt tell ya baboon
#gtfo-related-questions
neon gust
grizzled widget
its your money? why does it matter anyway
it's literally just up to regionality and where you grew up.
why city kids call every gun ever an "assault rifle"
grizzled widget
i was raised and taught to call it by it's model number, that's what everybody i've known since i was little did, it's standard.
soft crater
Me hearing a politician talking about a normal AR (M16/M4 platform) yet they describe a 50. Caliber Barret
grizzled widget
This is a videogame.
so i can't talk how i talk irl online?
i don't see how that's my problem
you grew up where you grew up, you don't see people correcting you
or at least i hope you dont
minor fractal
You opened with a strong claim about general terminology and are arguing for it.
neon gust
The whole point its, nobody actually uses the names/manufacturer of the guns, 90% of people use the basic names of the guns since it avoid confusion and it keep its simple
minor fractal
Of course people are going to argue against that claim.
grizzled widget
You opened with a strong claim about general terminology and are arguing for it.
how is it a strong claim!!??
soft crater
neon gust
nobody talking about region or where you got raise??
grizzled widget
nobody talking about region or where you got raise??
good, so why are you arguing it's not okay to call guns by their models?
minor fractal
how is it a strong claim!!??
If you intend to communicate with other people in-game, and generally not very many people know the exact model names by heart, yes, it's pretty dumb to use the model name over the common name.
Especially when common manufacturers are going to make it very hard for most people to differentiate between certain weapons (carbine and SMG, pump shotgun and choke mod shotgun, AR and BR, etc.).
grizzled widget
why do you keep going back to manufacturers?
soft crater
Some players refer to weapons as the manufacturers
grizzled widget
LX, CH4, that's as complicated as it's gotta be
neon gust
i think the saying "keep it simple stupid" didnt really resonates in you
grizzled widget
Some players refer to weapons as the manufacturers
and that's fine, i'm not correcting them
neon gust
why complicated thing when simple thing do job uga buga
minor fractal
Because a common manufacturer means that, if you don't know the exact model, you're going to have a hard time knowing what weapon someone else is talking about if all you have is "Van Auken" and "LTC5"
grizzled widget
i think the saying "keep it simple stupid" didnt really resonates in you
there is a difference between keeping it simple and telling someone they' cant talk the way they know best.
waxen jetty
iirc something like 2.7 damage 25 in mag
neon gust
there is a difference between keeping it simple and telling someone they' cant t...
adjust your vocabulary
soft crater
iirc something like 2.7 damage 25 in mag
So it's dmg essentially doubled roughly going to special
grizzled widget
Because a common manufacturer means that, if you don't know the *exact* model, y...
so don't say van auken? ever???
waxen jetty
8 body shots to kill sleeper
waxen jetty
So it's dmg essentially doubled roughly going to special
ye
minor fractal
there is a difference between keeping it simple and telling someone they' cant t...
Well, literally, if you "talk the way you know best," and that isn't easily understood by most people, then you can't talk that way if you want to get your meaning across.
waxen jetty
think head multi was the same
soft crater
I hate the precision multi on it ngl. No striker 2 shot Dx
minor fractal
so don't say van auken? ever???
That's not the problem. If anything, that's even worse. What the fuck is an "LTC5"?
Most people are not going to know that off-hand.
grizzled widget
it's the smg
minor fractal
Good job, you won the quiz, and missed the point.
grizzled widget
Well, literally, if you "talk the way you know best," and that isn't easily unde...
your assuming i'm playing with randoms speaking in morse code
it is nowhere near as complicated as you make it seem
soft crater
Lostty we arent saying that you cant say those models. Its just the general populace wouldnt know the weapons by those names. :/
minor fractal
Do you actually think most people know the in-game models off-hand?
grizzled widget
whats that
... are you telling me honest to god you don't know what AR means
neon gust
is that the AR or the HEAVY ar
neon gust
just make it easier
grizzled widget
you guys boil my blood
neon gust
Your not understanding
minor fractal
Okay, but "AR" is doing the heavy lifting, and arguably "LX" is TMI.
latent obsidian
They are right though
neon gust
Nobody knows that
minor fractal
it is also the AR.
grizzled widget
of which there are 4
neon gust
No, you have, AR, you have bullpup, you have Heavy AR, simple
minor fractal
Very few people know what the LX is.
grizzled widget
are you really sitting here complaining about two freaking letters?
minor fractal
I'm saying that you implicitly agree with me.
You need to say the common name to communicate effectively.
grizzled widget
Very few people know what the LX is.
well then that's their problem. because i'm not going to say the exact same thing 400 freaking times
minor fractal
???
grizzled widget
and you are assuming they don't ask "oh what's that"?
minor fractal
Again, there is exactly 1 assault rifle by common name.
grizzled widget
the assault rifle in the primary slot, with the red dot
can people not ask for clarification?
minor fractal
Uh, yeah, most people don't ask "what is the assault rifle"?
grizzled widget
or does all communication have to be one sentince or everyone on earth suddenly dies of cardiac arrest?
minor fractal
Unless they've never seen any of the weapons before.
In which case the more pertinent information is usually "it's a main weapon"
grizzled widget
i'm done talking with you about this topic. i've said the same thing 30 times, as have you.
minor fractal
Again, my argument is not that mentioning the LX is bad, per-say, it's that it's not typically all that valuable for most people.
grizzled widget
i'm not here to make enemies, so i'm not going to continue this conversation until we get pissed off at eachother
neon gust
“Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick”-the office
grizzled widget
“Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick”-the office
do those couple of seconds really matter to you?
i mean damn, everbody speaks in their own way. you'd lose the same amount of time talking to someone with a speech impediment, it doesn't matter in the end
minor fractal
You seem like you're dying on a hill you shouldn't die on, or a hill that doesn't really exist.
What is at stake in the argument, in your view?
grizzled widget
What is at stake in the argument, in your view?
that it's okay to speak in the way i have since i was a kid? yeah.
you speak your own way, and there's nothign wrong with that
minor fractal
What does that entail?
grizzled widget
oh my god
soft crater
We arent saying you cant say them that way lostty. It's just quicker to simplify them to be more easily understood by the general playerbase
:/
minor fractal
Originally, it sounded like, instead of saying "SMG LTC5," you were just saying "LTC5" and leaving it there.
Would you agree that just saying "LTC5" is probably bad most of the time?
grizzled widget
well no, you don't just say one word in a sentence, it's a descriptor
grizzled widget
Would you agree that just saying "LTC5" is probably bad most of the time?
for most people? probably, but it depends who you are talking to
as do all conversations
minor fractal
Sure, that's exactly what I mean by "most of the time," it depends on who you're talking to but there's some bias if we're just picking out random people.
So, would you agree that the most pertinent information most of the time is probably the common name of the weapon?
grizzled widget
usually when your talking to people that aren't from where your from you dont generally speak the same way
minor fractal
Shotgun, SMG, Carbine, etc.
grizzled widget
So, would you agree that the most pertinent information most of the time is prob...
if playing with randoms: common name
if playing with people you know: what you are best with
neon gust
Now you talking with random
grizzled widget
Shotgun, SMG, Carbine, etc.
well even usually i don't just say one thing, i say with both
"the s870, the shotty" for example
minor fractal
You shouldn't attempt to disagree with that, you should just agree and move the argument from that position.
grizzled widget
i wasn't disagreeing with speaking in common, i was disagreeing with it not being okay to call guns by their models at all.
it requires context, and usually you do either both or one or the other
minor fractal
But nobody is making that claim.
You've produced that claim and are arguing against it when it's not an espoused position.
grizzled widget
^
minor fractal
Even if it is an espoused position, it would be good to separate out the claim "common names are more palatable to most people" and "the model names should never be mentioned."
grizzled widget
i think the saying "keep it simple stupid" didnt really resonates in you
^
minor fractal
^
The proposition you are accusing BD of might be contained within that message, I'm not sure, but again:
Even if it is an espoused position, it would be good to separate out the claim "common names are more palatable to most people" and "the model names should never be mentioned."
Especially when you're replying to me, the most I say is that the model name is leaning towards TMI.
latent obsidian
Pretty sure the discussion mostly started from this question
minor fractal
But sure, I'll back off of that position.
minor fractal
Pretty sure the discussion mostly started from this question
I personally read this as "what's wrong with just saying the s870," which is generally true of my experience in PuGs.
People tend to either say the common name or the model name with no other information.
neon gust
Pretty sure the discussion mostly started from this question
It did, my point still correct , 95% of people speak by the normal common names of the guns smg, ar,bullpup etc , very rarely people speak by theyre model/manufacturer etc, its just way simpler to call by their "common" names like you guys mentions since they it avoids confusion.
grizzled widget
I personally read this as "what's wrong with *just* saying the s870," which is g...
honestly sometimes i do just say the s870, it's probably the most well known model of gun since it is a shotty and that's usually how it goes
though i do often specify shotty
rather than JUST s870, but it's really the only one with that naming convention
neon gust
i said it was stupid, correct, because it is
grizzled widget
i do love my my shotties.
neon gust
it really isnt that hard to understand my point
grizzled widget
got my first 12 gauge when i was a kid.
latent obsidian
Makes sense to use a term that describes the properties of the gun which most common names do right? Using the arbitrary names is just extra steps
grizzled widget
used to hunt alot with my pa
minor fractal
Well, I'll stand by my position that I think just saying the model name is bad practice w/out some prior knowledge of the rest of your team.
neon gust
used to hunt alot with my pa
Thats a cool papa right there
grizzled widget
well i mean it's the midwest. it's basically nothing but cornfields and dirt roads for miles
minor fractal
I personally don't think I took much notice of model names until I had clocked in a fair number of hours (and this was largely because of reading lore discussions about the guns), and I have very little knowledge of firearms IRL.
s870 might be enough, or it might be a confusing string of letters and numbers.
grizzled widget
shotguns have all kinds of versatility that most guns don't.
you got buckshot = big pellet
birdshot = small pellet
slug = far pellet
dragons breath = hot pellet
flachette = spikey pellet
and so on
and all of them in GTFO are probably just buckshot
neon gust
If this was tarkov you'll be spot on
soft crater
shotguns have all kinds of versatility that most guns don't.
you got buckshot =...
Looks at snakeshot that broke CoD for awhile .....yeah snakeshot irl ain't that powerful-
Iirc those pellets are like flecks of pepper size
rigid sinew
how do I stop having skill issue?
turbid horizon
Just adapt
rigid sinew
™️
karmic frigate
Exactly
compact pebble
i wish i could just adapt >.<
karmic frigate
The solution to Skill issue™️ is Just adapt™️
floral acorn
thorny creek
Join the R7E1 Checkpoint Deniers, we have cookies 
inner field
where's the R7E1 Checkpoint Activists at, I heard they pay your college intuition if you join them
sounds like a way better deal imo
compact pebble
where's the R7E1 Checkpoint Activists at, I heard they pay your college intuitio...
omg forreaaal??
inner field
Yep
soft crater
turbid horizon
You may now join the cult of Just adapt™️
*join?
karmic frigate
Ye
soft crater
crystal basalt
How do I adapt
compact pebble
@karmic frigate
lunar meteor
yo question
are the devs going to like, to add GTFO steam achievements in the game someday?
wise thicket
I forgot about those
karmic frigate
yo question
are the devs going to like, to add GTFO steam achievements in the ga...
Go on GtfoTheGame.com
Roadmap
Backlog
wise thicket
.t roadmap
uneven gulchBOT
You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap
latent obsidian
yo question
are the devs going to like, to add GTFO steam achievements in the ga...
they plan to
lunar meteor
ah
thank you all so much
wise thicket
Damn they have not even started the developing phase
lunar meteor
appreciated mate
compact pebble
Damn they have not even started the developing phase
😔
crystal basalt
It's odd to think of achievements for GTFO
Kill X number of Y enemy doesn't feel like it quite fits with GTFO
latent obsidian
Yeah, I think it will be hard to make interesting achievements for a game like this
finite plinth
it'll just have those boring milestone achievements
finish a pe level
kill x amount of scouts
kill x amount of y
latent obsidian
lol as if people don't compete for scouts enough
finite plinth
complete x amount of levels
latent obsidian
that will be fun
crystal basalt
Would be funny to have an encounter X enemy for the first time achievement pop up before you see the enemy
weary mesa
No checkpoint. does it on A1 
finite plinth
even if it does do funny loadout achievements
it'll probably be done only on As
can't do time sensitive achievements because expeditions change
weary mesa
Fully Cfoam a mom five times in a row
latent obsidian
This might be an awful idea, I've not given it much thought, but what if there were a GTFO daily. One level a day chosen from the rundown, everyone gets the same seed, same preset loadout and there is a leaderboard for it. And you can only run it once
finite plinth
kill pmom with only melee
latent obsidian
I know it doesn't mesh with the GTFO vibe for starters
I just enjoy games that have dailies I think
weary mesa
Would be nice, would be out of place tho for sure
karmic frigate
Kill X number of Y enemy doesn't feel like it quite fits with GTFO
Yea?
Oh Kill x
Lmao
soft crater
kill pmom with only melee
So you've chosen death by baby licks
karmic frigate
What-
soft crater
Then again assuming everyone has IIX syringes. You could deal like 1,200 dmg with 4 IIX full hammer charges.
To a Pmom
50 off of 50% of the Pmoms Total HP. So like 48%
Spears assuming precision bonus works on the tumors. Would be like 1,365 dmg (54% of the pmoms total hp)
turbid horizon
Then again assuming everyone has IIX syringes. You could deal like 1,200 dmg wit...
wait a minute
now i hab the funni idea
plz add pmom in extension with needles
I wanna do the funni
wait a minute it's an 8 sec duration
2 hits
= melee pMom KO
soft crater
Possible assuming she doesnt crawl away from you
But yes the funni is possible
Drugs are helluva thing heh
turbid horizon
druuugs
weary mesa
Effect is eaten after the first hit
turbid horizon
sigh
karmic frigate
Then again assuming everyone has IIX syringes. You could deal like 1,200 dmg wit...
Each tumour as it’s own hp so i think if you pop one even if you deal like 3k dmg itll only dmg enough to pop it
Im not sure tho
Im like 50% sure it does 50% sure it doesnt
weary mesa
I'm pretty sure it continues the damage but at the reduced damage multi
So basically nothing
worthy siren
have the devs fixed sniper melee
waxen jetty
theres instances where you pop mother after 8 tumors
and theres instances where you pop mother after 6-7
its weird
turbid horizon
have the devs fixed sniper melee
wha
waxen jetty
no itll still happen
karmic frigate
have the devs fixed sniper melee
R7
worthy siren
good
soft crater
waxen jetty
waxen jetty
do share
soft crater
Tank should technically die after 6 tumor pops if this were the case
waxen jetty
and i think it has to do with damage multiplier of the tumors
but depending on weapon comps you can pop in less
not sure why though
karmic frigate
I was pinged?
waxen jetty
No
karmic frigate
Oky
soft crater
And ye I multiplied the 150 wrong and said 6
Should be 7
If it were 6 it's only 900
soft crater
even weirder that tank takes 9 mines to die
definitely not me who planted 20 mines
soft crater
Mines are only stated to have 50 dmg iirc
finite plinth
multi :^)
soft crater
Hmm.
waxen jetty
and his front absorbs some of them taking no damage
soft crater
That would mean mines should be able to do 7 mine tank
waxen jetty
yeah
soft crater
waxen jetty
and i dont think devs would do set instances in the game to prevent easy solo mine kill
since 8 mines is 100% deployer
time to do more labbing
waxen jetty
interesting
8 mines can kill but only if he does slow walk
they also managed to kill both at same time
karmic frigate
I think tank as resistance to explosives
Cuz it’s a lot harder to mine trap tanks in R6 then in like R5
neon gust
The only thing they did to make tank avoid minecheesing its slapping bigs on the same room as him
unlike r4 in wich he was alone 99% of the levels
nice change overall
waxen jetty
ye
neon gust
r4c3 small blood door jumpscare 
waxen jetty
vertical or horizontal
ruby wasp
vertical is 💤
waxen jetty
dunno how 7 would work horizontal
waxen jetty
no i meant his front just eats 7 no problem
spark wolf
get it to not hit the front
waxen jetty
spark wolf
the count doesn't rly matter much for that
waxen jetty
weird
vertical is easy mode atleast
i did 7 horizontal
he didnt give a shit even after i shot at blobs
and 8 he just died
spark wolf
how many times did you try
waxen jetty
2 with 8 2 with 7
mossy aurora
thats because the time you did it with 7 none of the mines actually connected
waxen jetty
guess so
mossy aurora
the angle the tank runs out at can determine whether the mines hit or not
spark wolf
eternal hamlet
new to gtfo and thought i read somewhere that mods are not allowed as of rn by the devs but cant find anything about it anymore. did i just imagine that
waxen jetty
- Will GTFO support mods?
We do not currently support modding. First and foremost, we’re focused on delivering the high-quality game that we've promised on the product page. Since we can't spend time verifying the quality and stability of mods, we don't want mods promoted in the game's official channels, especially where it could be mistaken for official endorsement. Mod support could be added at a later date. For now, there is a GTFO modding community where you can discuss modding: https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh.
eternal hamlet
ahhh so they just dont want to endorse anything since theyd have to veriy it all not that its frowned upon. thanks
spark wolf
they love the modding community
spark wolf
spark wolf
waxen jetty
weary mesa
Playing old rundowns is modded apparently
soft crater
'^ ' where muh 9 scan tho
waxen jetty
'^ '
neon gust
wachu gonna do ban him
karmic frigate
no
neon gust
great
waxen jetty
great
grizzled widget
new to gtfo and thought i read somewhere that mods are not allowed as of rn by t...
it's here, in the rules channel. #12
grizzled widget
Playing old rundowns is modded apparently
yes, since they are removed every time a new one comes out
weary mesa
It's more like reverting to older version
waxen jetty
weary mesa
Either way it's a no no
grizzled widget
It's more like reverting to older version
well i mean that's not supported either
neon gust
if you playing older rundown and see a bepinex in it or something i would be hella sus
weary mesa
yes I said that
neon gust
be safe out there people
grizzled widget
what's a bepinex?
weary mesa
Cfoam nades become cacafoam nades
waxen jetty
true
obsidian depot
what's a bepinex?
a naughty word
minor fractal
what's a bepinex?
Tool that allows you to run m*ds.
finite plinth
Playing old rundowns is modded apparently
can't believe ztriw got that rational thinking
waxen jetty
spark wolf
bepis
craggy pier
...Burst cannon?
latent obsidian
Rifle 😮
wise thicket
Yo CS coming back?
inner field
yo sawed-off 2.0 coming out?
soft crater
Mozambique 2.0*
subtle burrow
what happens when there's a sentry in the room with a cocoon and the sleepers respawn?
subtle burrow
ah ok, but will they keep respawning then or
vital sierra
they will trigger
maiden cypress
no bro they will trigger
minor fractal
Epic hybrid error on R5B3 Sec because I forgot my auto sentry.
waxen jetty
kek
grizzled widget
@lilac fulcrum any returning guns for the extension?
karmic frigate
Lmfao
grizzled widget
is that a yes?
karmic frigate
Thats so good
upbeat finch
hel rifle PogChamp
karmic frigate
https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-bean-rowan-atkinson-atkinson-bean-gun-gif-2213494...
Autopistol
When is GTFO coming to mobile
heavy kestrel
so is the "DEACTIVATE_ALARMS" you do at the end of error alarms supposed to turn off all the alarms or is that a bug?
karmic frigate
so is the "DEACTIVATE_ALARMS" you do at the end of error alarms supposed to turn...
Uhhhhhhhhhhh bug….?
I think it’s a bug
neon gust
so is the "DEACTIVATE_ALARMS" you do at the end of error alarms supposed to turn...
its been a thing since r5 when it got added
karmic frigate
And I don’t think they’ve made it so two alarms can ring at once
heavy kestrel
its been a thing since r5 when it got added
yeah, this, i imagine it would have been fixed by now if that were the case
neon gust
They dont have the technology to tie the command to the alarm your suppose to turn off for the time been
grizzled widget
it also disables door alarms
neon gust
it disables everything kekw
heavy kestrel
yea
heavy kestrel
They dont have the technology to tie the command to the alarm your suppose to tu...
sounds like the easiest thing to implement lmao
neon gust
Use it if you want but if you want to experience the levels fully then dont abuse it and play the levels normally
its the memories of the struggles witht the team that you will remember the most 
grizzled widget
its the memories of the struggles witht the team that you will remember the most...
ehhh, not really
heavy kestrel
yeah, except my team doesnt play anymore, sadge
karmic frigate
yeah, this, i imagine it would have been fixed by now if that were the case
Ehhhh
neon gust
yeah, except my team doesnt play anymore, sadge
lfgs are there for you
made most my friends via lfg
karmic frigate
They only fix high priority stuff
heavy kestrel
yeah ik, thats why im here
grizzled widget
deliberate bugs and stuff are not priority to patch
karmic frigate
deliberate bugs and stuff are not priority to patch
Ye
grizzled widget
there are faaaar easier ways to cheese levels than with the terminals
karmic frigate
COUGH C-FOAM COUGH
grizzled widget
**COUGH** C-FOAM **COUGH**
COUGH DOORS
heavy kestrel
plus i kind of like it, allowed me to beat lvls for the first time, and as i play more i can get better and come back to those lvls and do them legit
karmic frigate
grizzled widget
i 100% always use everything i have at my disposal to cheese levels for the first run to get it out of the way, then on later runs sit down and play it normally and enjoy it to it's fullest
it isn't good to stress that you have to complete it to get progress, or a cosmetic or whatever.
you can't enjoy it that way.
but honestly people play different ways
you do you
heavy kestrel
yeah. Especially im used to being quite a completionist for games so i cant stand not 100% stuff, but on the other hand school takes a LOT of time for me now. So i dont mind little exploits like this that make it a bit easier, and then, if i have time, i can come back to the lvls and do them full properly
heavy kestrel
but honestly people play different ways
as long as youre having fun and not making others not have fun
grizzled widget
well generally people don't bug in public lobbies and if they do they let everyone know before they do so (i would hope)
then again, some assholes mod in public lobbies, so you never know
heavy kestrel
from my experience i ask for strats and they give options, like normal or cheese or something
grizzled widget
you still have any levels to do before the extension comes out?
or are you waiting for it to drop?
heavy kestrel
nah, did D4 a week ago (last one), but it was heavily affectedd by exploits as it was 2AM and we were all dead
so i wanna come back to D4 to try legit, seems like a very fun lvl
grizzled widget
i'm assuming mostly door cheese?
heavy kestrel
yeaaa
grizzled widget
yeah d4 is fun, if a bit stressful on the later halfs with the fog rooms
heavy kestrel
door cheese was cool, but i would say now that i have seen how the lvl goes, i can go in and try it legit, knowing what youre going into is always useful
tight drum
door cheese was cool, but i would say now that i have seen how the lvl goes, i c...
I kinda have the opposite taste, I wanna preserve that tension and pressure as long as I can.
when you don't know whats ahead it's much better.
grizzled widget
imo it's not really the tension, it's the need to complete the level
i can enjoy it and explore far deeper without the requirement that we win at the end
heavy kestrel
Yeah, i would like to be like that, and attempt a level even like 20 times before doing it, but yeah, the amount of time i have doesnt really allow it
Cant jist sit there for hrs daily trying one lvl, wouldnt get anywhere as it would take me like 2 months to beat one
Well, maybe not 2 months, but you get the point
tight drum
Well, maybe not 2 months, but you get the point
well I guess the point for me is that with all that time in between rundowns I'm gonna replay levels either way
karmic frigate
@guide
turbid horizon
yeah
karmic frigate
Yeah thats fair
turbid horizon
yeah computer engineering don't give me time to get really good at any game
karmic frigate
It’s fun tho
turbid horizon
seems kinda fun, but it'd be like billions of times worse Geometry Dash
imagine getting licked on the Crypto Error
like
how angry
would we be
karmic frigate
Ive already discussed about all the details anyways
D4 is most likely impossible
D2 is close to impossible
Other levels are either super easy or stupid hard
tight drum
wow
karmic frigate
D1 would be hard af but it’s possible
tight drum
if d4 is impossible why try?
karmic frigate
Well
It’s not impossible
It’s just
Trying to trap a tank
With multiple charger variants
Is gonna be very very tricky to do-
tight drum
do you need to do every single lvl?
jaunty bear
is this talk about doing D4 guide?
karmic frigate
A1 b1 b2 c1 c2 c3 d1 d2 d3 d4
karmic frigate
is this talk about doing D4 guide?
Like a guide for D4?
jaunty bear
no, guide role
karmic frigate
do you need to do every single lvl?
Yes also #gtfo-chat lets go there instead
karmic frigate
no, guide role
Yeah
shrewd dirge
guide as in, a1-d4 all objectives, no damage, and some other nonsense.
jaunty bear
trying to do D4 guide seems kinda insane lol
karmic frigate
No kills no player damage
D4 only issue is the tank
Since c-foam isnt effective on them
D2 is possible if not stupid hard
All other levels pretty simple
D1 gonna take forever
shrewd dirge
if kiting was still a thing, probably would have been able to cap the last reactor wave and hold it til the scans
simply probably not possible.
karmic frigate
Well actually
You cant spawn cap ive heard
Cant spawn cap for apexxdoor
Apex door
karmic frigate
So youd have to just c-foam everything
Which isnt toooo hard but
Fog
The level is pretty easy
The boss is hard part
You can only shoot the kraken
Flyers you gotta dodge the whole time
Single damage and you gotta restart at A1
tight drum
maybe just learn to speedrun and then use 4 foams?
tight drum
Single damage and you gotta restart at A1
that really sounds insane
grizzled widget
fliers can't be foamed. that's gonna suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
tight drum
has anyone got it?
karmic frigate
its possible
tight drum
still I'd bet that the people who are gonna beat it would be fireblade and that whole speedrunner crowd
tight drum
**its possible**
you really wanna try that?
it just sounds so... daunting
"unless harming that enemy is absolutely and unconditionally required to progress" is d1 the only level where this applies?
i wonder what boosters would be ideal...
wary linden
i wonder what boosters would be ideal...
regen cap
you can't kill anything, that means you gonna be running constantly, and while running you are gonna regen cause you are gonna get hit. a lot.
tight drum
you can't kill anything, that means you gonna be running constantly, and while r...
you can't get hit
one hit and you have to restart.
wary linden
good luck with that. r6 is pretty janky
tight drum
yup
as i said. i doubt that if anyone is going to do it it's going to be me.
doesn't even seem fun unless i'm missing something big.
tight drum
oh alright
compact pebble
👀
strange jolt
does med efficiency only affect yourself or also others when you give them meds
finite plinth
both
strange jolt
ty!
strange jolt
oh is it also the same for ammo and tool efficiency?
ruby wasp
yes
inner field
Yep, as long as the person with said booster equipped, whenever that person uses a pack with the corresponding efficiency on any player. Then they get extra :]
strange jolt
oof, i really thought that also adding efficiency to teammates seemed kinda broken so i never thought it worked like that
thanks for the info
ruby wasp
well it's one of the best boosters for a reason
karmic frigate
@lilac fulcrum question…. I see that the VC 69 has been locked away by the Guide role right? If someone where to obtain said role… would they release GTFO-69
karmic frigate
It’s kinda like warden locked
Except it’s guide locked
Maybe somebody with the role could unlock it
compact pebble
Maybe somebody with the role could unlock it
exclusive VC only for madlads with the Guide role
🥶
karmic frigate
Ima try for Guide role again
compact pebble
Ima try for Guide role again
gl
turbid horizon
exclusive VC only for madlads with the Guide role
it's just doc sitting in there
with rascal on cams
asa reward for guide
compact pebble
👀
turbid horizon
bro i'd try for guide if getting to watch rascal play was a reward
pure mason
What doe LFG mean in relation to matchmaking?
turbid horizon
looking for group
pure mason
Ah.
turbid horizon
#how-to-matchmake has more info
pure mason
No, I read it. Just didn't understand that it directly meant Looking For Group. Thought it was maybe some sort of categorization of Rundown difficulties.
turbid horizon
ahhh got it
tame valve
Hi guys I have a question about horde spawn. I know the monsters spawn 2 rooms away from the players, but do they spawn at the center of the rooms, or in front of the "closest" door(s) to the players ?
tame valve
Asking because I'm playing D1 right now and I was wondering if (D1 spoiler ahead) || for the generator step, c-foaming the stairs in Zone 88C (so in the room where the hordes spawn) just in front of the security door was a good idea.||
karmic frigate
Asking because I'm playing D1 right now and I was wondering if (D1 spoiler ahead...
Spoilers arent needed anymore
It’s way past the 2 week period
- extended
finite plinth
it is needed according to a certain someone
latent obsidian
Asking because I'm playing D1 right now and I was wondering if (D1 spoiler ahead...
I've never bothered doing that. You'll still have to fight them while doing the reactor anyway so better to cfoam where you can shoot them
proper glen
Don't have to spoiler tag, but if you're a real one - you still use spoiler tags.
proper glen
Asking because I'm playing D1 right now and I was wondering if (D1 spoiler ahead...
You can do a little there. ||If your whole team hugs one side (left or right) the enemies will also mostly use the stairs to the side you're hugging.|| Like Ellda said, best to use most your cfoam in the main hallway and gun them down. ||Don't dump it all at once, just a bit per wave.||
wraith blade
Is the push to talk button "V" as usual? I don't see keybind options (edit) ope, found it
waxen jetty
alt
fluid osprey
cerulean moth
Someone care to explain the apparel system to me? I know that I get random cosmetics when I complete an expedition, but is there anything I can do to sort of “control” what kind of cosmetics I unlock? Or is it just random until I meet a quota on the apparel list?
weary mesa
Don't know too much about it but each category of unlock has it's own pool I think
But it's still random from that pool
cerulean moth
That makes a bit more sense now that you put it like that.
I Imagine that once I meet all of the quotas, technically that means I’ve unlocked all of the cosmetics?
weary mesa
For your available drops yes, there will always be more than you can get so each rundown you comeback to grab more. If that tickles your fancy
First implementation of the apparel system so it might change
sudden burrow
Yeah there’s more in the pool than can currently be unlocked, my crew has stuff that I don’t
weary mesa
I forgor. There's also set drops for stuff too
All the set drops are palettes I believe
sudden burrow
Ssssounds correct.
finite plinth
destination for all story levels
overdive for 5 ex
overload 6 for 2 ovl
pink palette for 10 highs
weary mesa
The ones that I know about that I like are Overload 6, Miracle, and Bone Relic
finite plinth
overdive is true flex palette
ex are harder than ovl unironically
but I'm an early adopter enjoyer
weary mesa
D2ex double cfoam, double door break easy
weary mesa
at least they upped the uplink codes
minor fractal
D3 Overload seems very much to be a 50/50. Good at navigating fog? Piss. Bad at navigating fog? Oh bb.
bold atlas
what is sentry cpu speed?
wise thicket
Firing speed, detection speed, and rotation speed
bold atlas
ty
finite plinth
please do not use cpu speed on burst sentry
it only increases the rof of the burst and not reduce the delay between burst
it's unironically a downgrade, because it misses more
finite plinth
hits walls because epic detection
and can't hit heads on crawling shooters
also it occasionally misses when the first shot staggers shooter
distant ice
afaik it only "misses" when shooting an already dead enemy cuz it's still detecting it as a target
finite plinth
that too
i lost 20 hp because it shot a dead enemy in front of me
just what the founding fathers intended
distant ice
and btw if you're seeing it missing as client it doesn't count
finite plinth
i was doing d1 reactor
host and solo
could be my placement but burst shooting shooters is just wack
oh yea it sometimes just shoot once and the 2 other bullets just vanished for some reason
minor fractal
SR damage boost is prolly good, tho.
finite plinth
no idea why
distant ice
oh yea it sometimes just shoot once and the 2 other bullets just vanished for so...
i only know that happening when it ran out of ammo mid-burst
distant ice
yeah but did it run out of ammo before that
finite plinth
nope
it was like 80% cuz i refilled it before wave
i have another one gimme a sec
my guess was it got staggered out of range so it didn't shoot, but it was still within
cerulean moth
Good Main Weapons to go along with the Köning PR 11 Sniper or the Drekker INEX Drei Scattergun?
spark wolf
HEL GUN
cerulean moth
I feel like high capacity ammo guns would help, like the Van Auken variants, Shelling S49 Pistol, and the Raptus Treffen 2 Machine Pistol could work, but I’m not sure
thorny creek
The best pick for those two is probably the HEL Revo imo
Would've been pistol but since they nerfed the range on R6, I don't think it's a reliable pick anymore, at least in this case.
spark wolf
HEL GUN
thorny creek
But in all honesty, why pick those weapons when Hel Gun exists?
cerulean moth
1.) but everyone uses the Baltaro Hel Revolverrrr 
2.) cause the Hel Gun doesn’t have one shot potential ~3~
covert apex
boobs
minor fractal
Good Main Weapons to go along with the Köning PR 11 Sniper or the Drekker INEX D...
Any of the semi-autos are good, just because they're very versatile.
HEL Revolver and Pistol are probably going to be the most reliable.
rigid sinew
can you kill a mommy with da pistol?
thorny creek
1.) but everyone uses the Baltaro Hel Revolverrrr <:DomCuteCry:96221654616653832...
Hel Gun can one shot normal enemies as long as you hit them in the head.
soft crater
Not me using the machine pistol because every other gun I'm tired of using them.
I get people looking at me weird because of my Machine pistol pick until I have to clutch because the 3 of them died.
thorny creek
Nah, that's a fair pick.
Meanwhile here I am picking Revolver because headshots are poggers
soft crater
I typically pair it with Pump or Hel Gun
(Ironically someone tells me to use my shotgun or hel gun more because I end up using the machine pistol more)
Also I still wait for when we get emotes of the Guns and tools
shrewd dirge
anyone ever have it take several minutes to respawn from checkpoint?
stark spade
no
finite plinth
the ones in your inv, no
but some boosters effect and conditions will change or gone until 10cc decides otherwise
like terminal use is gone, hacking tool, glowstick prox condition is gone
stark spade
dang, didn't know that those were gone. time to hold on to my boosters with those stats
unique sage
If a players is tk'ing is kicking them out are the only option?
maiden cypress
i don't even think that's an option man
finite plinth
you can make a new lobby
unique sage
Ok.
compact pebble
If a players is tk'ing is kicking them out are the only option?
can't kick players in the game yet, but yes
unique sage
Alright. 👍
pearl iris
Is this the right place to ask for help on playing the game?
karmic frigate
Is this the right place to ask for help on playing the game?
no
but if you want help I can gladly help
finite plinth
technically it is
craggy pier
Depends on what he means with "asking for help"
finite plinth
if you just want tips
latent obsidian
what on earth is this channel for then? 😂
latent obsidian
great idea
compact pebble
hmm
wooden osprey
1
maiden cypress
3
winged iron
4
pearl iris
but if you want help I can gladly help
I'm trying to figure out how to do the whole "navigation" thing better (i know there's a level with that name, not that one. I'm stuck with knowing how to get to a zone and stuff). How do I know the set of doors to take to get to a zone with the least distance? Like what's the best way to know which direction a zone is in?
gaunt fulcrum
Pretty sure shadows are the exact same properties as strikers but their attacks are little slower
Should fact check me on that though
soft crater
should be the same just invisible and that their head hit box doesn't disappear meaning you can get multiple headshots
compact pebble
or is it just me no skill?
hmm
bold atlas
im trying to practice the shadow enemies by going inside the first room in D3 overlord solo
but I keep
screwing up
maiden cypress
should be the same just invisible and that their head hit box doesn't disappear ...
it still disappears, just takes more damage to break it i think
compact pebble
skill issue xD
bold atlas
:-:
compact pebble
they the same
maiden cypress
im trying to practice the shadow enemies by going inside the first room in D3 ov...
shadows are hard to control long range aggro for (:
never know when they're glowing
soft crater
especially with possible latency/server desyncs
latent obsidian
I'm trying to figure out how to do the whole "navigation" thing better (i know t...
Pay attention to what is written on the doors. Regular doors will tell you what zones they are "passage" to. So if you see the number you want under "passage to" you are going the right way. Security doors will also tell you what zones they lead to
soft crater
D:
karmic frigate
I'm trying to figure out how to do the whole "navigation" thing better (i know t...
here go in vc 50
bold atlas
never know when they're glowing
i know... thats why it is so annoying
you only get sound ques
is it better to just clear the normals first them the scouts?
maiden cypress
i usually go scouts first then normal
wooden osprey
is it better to just clear the normals first them the scouts?
for D2 no
maiden cypress
talking about shadows
wooden osprey
as one kill may start a chain reaction of alertness
wooden osprey
talking about shadows
im aware
maiden cypress
oki!
wooden osprey
so always try to go for scouts even if not shadows
as dealing with the room or dealing with the room and only one scout
is a lot better than dealing with a room
and 2 scouts
bold atlas
hmmm
maiden cypress
1 spawns 1
wooden osprey
also, one scout being activated is better than two right?
yes
bold atlas
thank you (:
wooden osprey
1 scout being alerted is alot better than 2 scouts being alerted
bold atlas
idiot of a friend ran in the overlord room and activated the whole room right away my first try
;-;
ty for the help
wooden osprey
ty for the help
np
soft crater
ah. the first timers meeting shadows for the first time
finite plinth
waking up ovl scouts is no problem
you got almost 10 uses of ammo
4 in spawn 2 in 2 scout zone another 4 in reactor
then 6 behind key zone iirc
soft crater
4 in spawn 2 in 2 scout zone another 4 in reactor
assuming they can handle the double scout waves
soft crater
easy to say for experienced players
maiden cypress
just left click 😳
not even an experienced players thing lmao that room has long funnels
enemies come through one door
soft crater
still gotta take into account not everyone can hit their shots
soft crater
especially shadows and if bio isn't ontop of their tracking
finite plinth
you got 10 use ammo
i think you're underestimating people
it's 28 spawns and you got good funnel spots
gaunt fulcrum
Hammer 2 scout waves 😳
bold atlas
still gotta take into account not everyone can hit their shots
hehe... cries with no skills
soft crater
i think you're underestimating people
I still take it in account not everyone is a chad and hits a lot of shots
still easy to say 10 ammo packs if everyone is ammo efficient
finite plinth
brother
you can always bodyshot
it's better to hit the body than to miss the head
soft crater
I never said anything about headshots
maiden cypress
it's more like bodyshots are hard af to miss (:
as long as y ou can left click you'll hit a body shot somewhere
finite plinth
i mean it's a d tier
shouldn't i expect everyone to at least know how to hit bodyshots
maiden cypress
nitro fail
gaunt fulcrum
Smh
maiden cypress
it's okay brother :sadge:
finite plinth
no nitro gang
pearl iris
@karmic frigate I cleared A1!!!! Thanks a lot for the help :D
pearl iris
So now I play B1, or is there a way to play A1 with a different difficulty?
sudden burrow
Nope, nothing extra to A1, you're done
karmic frigate
So now I play B1, or is there a way to play A1 with a different difficulty?
no
pearl iris
Wait I'm not able to upload images. Basically what I wanted to show was that below A1, it shows a Completed: [1, -, -, -] and was wondering what those dashes were
I presumed those were levels within A1, but I guess not?
karmic frigate
Wait I'm not able to upload images. Basically what I wanted to show was that bel...
join vc 15
real quick
sudden burrow
If it hasn't been explained already, the dashes are where it'd display if you've completed any optional objectives in the level. Since A1 has none, they're dashes instead of 0's.
proper glen
uneven drift
How can you get the robo hand skin?
weary mesa
Luck
wise thicket
How can you get the robo hand skin?
Its from the main loot pool
uneven drift
luck, huh?
wise thicket
yep
uneven drift
looks like I have to use special measures in order to get it
wise thicket
ok
uneven drift
: smile :
weary mesa
pepeW
waxen jetty
soft crater
compact pebble
<@425752974472511492> I cleared A1!!!! Thanks a lot for the help \:D
nice~
near shadow
ello is there anything said about the merch store maybe related to the upcoming rundown extend? is it going to stay with the current inventory or is it going to be updated?
twin hill
ello is there anything said about the merch store maybe related to the upcoming ...
Everything in the store is limited, new items are being added every now and then 👍
near shadow
Ok thanks 👍
modest nest
Everything in the store is limited, new items are being added every now and then...
So hoodie, t-shirt designs....etc? So if I miss my chance to grab one I wont be able to get them later? 
karmic frigate
Hackett with a t-shirt
soft crater
LF Hackett's Husband
bold atlas
In D3, is it viable to bring 2 bio trackers?
latent obsidian
Does anyone know is there a place to suggest designs for the GTFO merch store? I'd be interested in some clothing with the Santonian logo on
compact pebble
In D3, is it viable to bring 2 bio trackers?
of course
2 bio-tracker in D3 is slept on tbh
compact pebble
mines 👀
shrewd dirge
Not a big reason for mines tbh
Theres plenty of tripmines around for the blood doors
desert falcon
There are quite a few blood doors
karmic frigate
And then the blood doors during main reactor
There’s no level where it’s a bad idea to bring mines
finite plinth
there's like 2 blood doors, then you can mine then rush out for shadow error
shrewd dirge
How many blood doors? 2 is not a lot
finite plinth
and you can even mine tank
karmic frigate
Mine’s are the most used tool
finite plinth
insta killing it
karmic frigate
If you think about it deeper not a single level you cant bring mines
C-foam is second most used
karmic frigate
Bio is least used tool
finite plinth
compact pebble
How many blood doors? 2 is not a lot
just kill tank lol
unless you for whatever reason prefer sentry over mines
burn ammo and potentially taking damage from enemies or just take them out with 1 mine
finite plinth
idk, maybe he wants to burn around 0.7 uses of ammo or potentially more
over 1 singular mine and 0.5 uses of tool
maiden cypress
aint nobody talking about how you can split up 2 2 at the end im so sad
finite plinth
YOU GOTTA STELF BRO
let me spend 4 reactor waves to get key
when you can shoot up the place and get it in 1 or 2
finite plinth
game too hard i can't solo ex
maiden cypress
stealth it mr badger
shrewd dirge
aint nobody talking about how you can split up 2 2 at the end im so sad
It was implied, thats 90% of the reason to take 2 bios
cerulean moth
So what’s the issue with the Burst Rifle again?
I thought people disliked it because of its reload time, but honestly I’ve found that it reloads faster than the Bullpup Rifle.
neon gust
So what’s the issue with the Burst Rifle again?
I thought people disliked it bec...
before in r2 it used to reload in 0.7 seconds
so you could cancel the second you pressed r
turbid horizon
well I can see why they changed that
neon gust
they balance it so it actually plays the reload animation
they still made it noob proof and increased its damage for no reason
cerulean moth
They increased the damage?
neon gust
before it used to do 6.6 and x1 multi now its like 7.0 or something
cerulean moth
I just used it yesterday and I found that the damage was relatively lackluster
neon gust
you can 2 burst people
neon gust
I just used it yesterday and I found that the damage was relatively lackluster
aim better 4head
cerulean moth
neon gust
1 burst too i think
cerulean moth
Career: over
rain python
The BR wastes 1 bullet if you hit HS and BS
It’s efficiency is good if you hit your shots and get those HS
cerulean moth
I guess I’ll just need a little more time to get used to it
weary mesa
DTR moment
neon gust
gone but not forgotten
soft crater
MOZAMBIQUE HERE!
turbid horizon
hit em with the good ol double tap
mossy aurora
I think people that don't like the burst rifle just don't like burst weapons in general, not that the weapon is bad necessarily
Also can't you 1 burst crawling strikers if you're client?
neon gust
Burst weaponry was always kind of disliked in lots of other games to be honest
specially pvp ones
mossy aurora
Or am I making that up
mossy aurora
The head gets destroyed I think
turbid horizon
does 7.35 per burst
mossy aurora
So the last bullet misses
turbid horizon
and I know i've killed sleepers in one burst
rigid sinew
ammo inefficiency?
in rundown 6?
impossible!
soft crater
personally I like the burst weapons. over full autos
turbid horizon
i just tend to vary my loadout so much idk what I like anymore
soft crater
only full auto Main weapon I've been using lately is machine pistol
soft crater
I've been using pump lately
been using slide shots
kinda just a fun thing to do. I just wish I could shoot while in the air.
karmic frigate
Revolver is like that OG weapon everybody used to use
turbid horizon
yeah that'd be nice
karmic frigate
And now like nobody uses it
turbid horizon
yeah idk man i don't like it as much
neon gust
i just tend to vary my loadout so much idk what I like anymore
thats good, been good at many weapons makes the game fun
turbid horizon
i mean I can use it
turbid horizon
thats good, been good at many weapons makes the game fun
yeah also I do randomized loadouts a lot soooooooo
karmic frigate
Sad thing with Revolver is it’s pretty much just a second main
soft crater
revolver still has a place in my heart
neon gust
Sad thing with Revolver is it’s pretty much just a second main
A main that recieves almost half its ammo in one ammopack and can oneshot basic enemies?
dang
karmic frigate
But you can
soft crater
definitely not me highnooning giants/chargerscouts/scouts with revolver for fun
karmic frigate
Dmr can one shot headshotp
soft crater
cough
karmic frigate
Just need a small booster
neon gust
sure but the ammo aint there chief
karmic frigate
Eh
turbid horizon
ammo schmammo
karmic frigate
I mean 12 bullet clip is better then 6
neon gust
you'll be at 10% main 40% special all day if your using it like that
karmic frigate
All im saying is i still like the revolver but
minor fractal
Revolver is easily one of the strongest sustained wave clear specials.
turbid horizon
you'll be at 10% main 40% special all day if your using it like that
not if u balance :3
karmic frigate
It’s not as good as using HAR or MG
neon gust
It’s not as good as using HAR or MG
what no positioning does to a mf
karmic frigate
I do positionning
minor fractal
It's easily better than HAR or MG in the right hands.
karmic frigate
Just depends what
mossy aurora
Is revolver better than hel gun at wave clear?
minor fractal
It's always been very strong.
karmic frigate
Depends
turbid horizon
Is revolver better than hel gun at wave clear?
which one?
soft crater
it shines if you can get consistent headshots otherwise revolver lacks
minor fractal
Is revolver better than hel gun at wave clear?
Slower, but more ammo.
karmic frigate
Idk i kinda just like machine gun tbh
minor fractal
14 vs. 18 per refill.
karmic frigate
I like doing bursts with it
turbid horizon
where my regular pistol gang at
karmic frigate
Pistol is underrated ngl
turbid horizon
so satisfying
neon gust
didi you skip r5??
karmic frigate
I love it
neon gust
that shit was everywhere kekw
soft crater
people who run Hel revo instead of pistol
karmic frigate
What was
mossy aurora
What's revolvers total ammo capacity? Hel gun is like 36?
karmic frigate
Hel revo is also fun but idk
neon gust
6/48?
karmic frigate
I like both