#gtfo-related-questions
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everything else he listed before that
Ok, sad :(
the consumables and tools basically
Idrc what this chat as to say tbh
sprint reload too
Cuz even if they fix stuff they still gonna be pissed about 1 thing
probably a lot less pissed if the game seems to be getting more playable overall
Well, to be honest it's always good to have at least some sort of criticism.
Cause that leads you to reconsider and reframe your work, improving things and changing others.
Devs are gobna release both at the same time but it’s gonna take longer
Deal with it
Just adapt
People will complain all the time, about pretty much anything buddy.
It's inevitable.
highlighting another problem
we don't know that
we still have absolutely no official word that it will get fixed
^
I think it's up to them to see what criticism is good for them and which one is destructive.
Exactly
Complaining about a change that actually made the game worse and has been unaddressed for months and complaining about a lack of content are pretty different though
So complaining about people complaining isn't gonna do much.
Hit the discord search bar
Type from: D0c
I feel like we need more transparency from the devs.
what did doc say
man, i feel for doc, i honestly do; being community facing is brutal.
Doc said they are unsure what's the better way forward, revert the change or work off the current version to fix the jittering for real
A bunch of people voiced that reverting was infinitely better but w/e
so it definitely aint fixed yet in whatever dev build they got currently then
If reverting the change is how tedious and complicated as doc made it out to be, then my guess is the actual fix has not been worked out either lol
well depending on how they work it could be very annoying
but it still be quite worth it
no
Why does that matter?
Does that matter?
i guess
LMAO
So can I
"yo the lakers suck this year"
"Are you a professional basketball player???"
I knew that would be brought up eventually 
but its different for a bigger project
exactly
and different when working in a team
Even on a bigger scale
either way
exactlyyyyyyyyy
They've got people specialised in that field
this just reeks of gatekeeping
Are you either of what you mentioned above?
in fact
yes I am
well
Then you should know this
game designer not fully
and having additional stuff based on updated code already
but programmer yes
C#?
what?
🥴

post github
gtfo in scratch when
GTFO in Diesel 2.0 when?
insanee
it's like a reverse parsley
also i guess i can't complain or even provide opinions now if your point is just "are you x, if you're not x then you don't know how much x suffers"
for reallll 😔
you don't need to be a cook to know the food is bad
Oh, didn't realize there was gatekeeping.
I think a lot of people familiar with code are reasonably frustrated with update progress. Lots of bugs seem like they shouldn't be that hard to diagnose, but they don't get fixed, and the very slow update schedule reeks of poor version control.
some bugs are 2 years old...
if you're a programmer or have coded before, you'll probably find the jankest code ever
Some of these issues are probably just how the devs have decided to run things, but these decisions seem hard to defend. It seems like the game is distinctly worse off for poor patching, poor testing, long content droughts, etc.
i can literally give you examples of bad coding in pd2 and I'm pretty sure m*dders can show you examples
while r4 and r5 did stand for extended periods of time, it makes up for an extension occuring a month ish later
the "difficulty" and more side objectives
r6 just reeks brother
and if you're a programmer, you would understand the importance of debugging
no self respecting programmer or coder would leave an unfinished product to consumers, paid even more so
Well, I dunno about that, but you'd expect almost every bug that has a significant gameplay impact to be patched.
Which I think serious desync stemming from netcode definitely falls under.
and checkpoint issues
i don't expect every bug to be patched, because it's literally impossible, even the shortest code can have bugs
but it's your job to debug and bring the best possible product to a client

Bro!!!! Do u even code??????? No!!!! Are you a game dev????? No!!!!!!! So don’t complain okay!!!!! 🤓
What?
At this rate, i’ll just agree with whatever you say chief
I was reading back on the discussion, and honestly
why yes kaneki, i bhop to kite
You make no sense most of the time, i’m sorry
it's so op
No
bhopping is why kiting is op
[WARNING: initiating collective grass touching protocol. Please stand-by]

you can touch bacteria elsewhere
Funding
tencent
when 2 years of basically beta phase basically did fuckall in terms of gameplay
name 2 significant gameplay mechanics besides infection after r2
Stamina
infection
Burst cannon

Never got to use it
🤯
Always had somebody else using it lmfao
:troll:
Actually nah ive used it a few times don’t remember much of it tho
how is stamina significant when it didn't really change how you proceed with the game
sniper melee
it forces you to kill the chargers :trollin:
same with cocoons
Son
the fact that you have no idea who you are talking to is amazing to me
i guess the word significant is too hard for you
kinda funny
what?
Nvm
Well there isnt any then

exactly
Whats your point?
2 years just comes and goes
Step bro
to prove that the gameplay loop is still the same as ever and that the 2 years of "ea" did basically nothing
and also r6 can be seen as a downgrade
I wouldn’t agree with that
R6 is bad
It’s not
They listened to feedback and implemented it.
true


The EA was an experimental phase and r6 was basically thrown together with everything they’ve gathered throughout previous rundowns.
If you're lucky it pings like 2-3
The difficulty drop is something that bothered a majority of the community, but that was to be expected though.
R5D1 EX difficulty in all levels :monkaS:
Thats pretty much all I want
You’re getting an extension soon and r7 is right around the corner. 
The level itself wasn’t bad it was just easy to mess up
Took the day off for april 13
Thank god there were balanced boosters back then, right 😍
Might play with Soy, SGH0 and someone else
provision 👀
U never came to play....... 😓
regen cap 😩
hel rifle 
Regen cap is so rare wtf
Hel rifle was so bad
muh Hel Rifle
it was kind of a crutch
It was fine ig

It was disgusting, worst weapon ever designed
Um
I’m talking about the hel rifle?
Yeah
Hey guys, how do I host a private match? I forget
was DMR sight ever changed?
Uhhhh
no
Noooo….?
No
So was pistol
Just dont match make. And invite your friends or play with the bots
the recoil changed
R4 pistol was pretty good
Like no recoil
Ikr
I'm talking about pre R5
Old pistol. I remember every rundown it was just buff after buff
i can't aim
Copium
that's why i use dmr
Both precision weapons (pistol and revolver) got stagger buffs to help compensate for bad aim
Inb4 DX is a reactor level 

That’s why you had hel gun
Calle is best R6 feature
change my mind
how about you hel gun deez nuts
he will
Ye Calle is great
Are you seriously asking that?
Yes.
I will
Why not hel revolver
I'll hel gun your nutz in sulfuric acid
R5 didn’t have hel revo
@covert apex was talking about this-
ok
What if the reason why R6 has been out for so long is because they had to redo a ton of code due to Burst Cancel fix
No
vacation moment
Wonder if macros would work
but can burst cancel fix my interpersonal relationship
no
What if
no, but it can give you some pilk
Lmfao
bring out the Mastaba Fixed Blade Knife
I was gonna say smt but i wont cuz id prefer them to leave

Weeb can't stand a furry crazy
So you should go
nyyyyyaaaaaaaaa~~~
weebs 🚮
Yes yes i am furry rawr x3 uwu

Joke is im not
ok
I just like the art
can you kite furries 🤔
Yes
Im sure
yes they are fat
no
they can't run for extended periods without dehydration and exhaustion
or a massive orgy amongst themselves

time to learn how to replace models so i can make anime gun girl mods
Lmfao
already have the models ready
Neko boys/neko girls are just gateway drugs to furries
record me the sounds and I'll replace mom birth sounds with yours
imagine letting a catboy be better at you at a video game
:^
Change my mind
Any animal features is furry
I could nya your name
muscular bishop
nyyyytriw
nice
Bishop the brawler
baby backpack
Dauda the destroyer
chadshop
Woods the warrior
I love bishop..
no
no
How long can the sleepers sleep?
ask ur mom
😔

big big chungus
we don't have snow here 😔
That was my old bio ive changed it
they adapted™
I love you
You can join the Just adapt™️ cult if you want

All you need is a small moment to type
can i join?
noo why'd chu change ur bio
Ya sure just rename yourself
Join the R7E1 Checkpoint deniers club, we have cookies 
but i want more checkpoints 
You are being brainwashed, average citizen! Checkpoints do not exist! 
Every door becomes a checkpoint security door
More checkpoints but no closable doors

GTFO custom games when? 
Isn't that just DIY m*dding?
turn prisoners into femboys
that's your job not mine
Procedurally generated GTFO levels 😳
Launch A1 random, start with a mother error 😳
Here’s just a funny icebreaker for today:
You and your first three @‘s are now the Warden’s prisoners. What are your chances for survival?
like the 3 most recent @ s, or the ones that show up when i type @
The first three @‘s that show up
@dethPluton#000@$ir$hotalot#081 @ABC_squid#836 them my people then
All the admins for me
I trust orange but the other two nah
Lmao
Me, D0c, Storm, and the avocado guy from earlier that is new to the game.
Depends on the expedition, tho.
True
Nice
I'd go fucking nut's down the complex killing shit
Seems pretty solid, maybe. I dunno how much D0c plays.
He has 1k hours
Actually, Storm doesn't play vanilla much anymore, so might be scuffed af.
Oh, we'll be fine probably.
Was just looking at the Dev’s steam’s actually lmao
ok so i have a question i crashed while we were on the other planet and when i reconnected i was still there while the rest of the squad was already back
how do i get back ? i dont have spaceship
Cant come back
You've soft locked the game unless you leave and let the others 3 man finish
if they grab another data cube and come back is it another set ? or are they going to come to me >
?
This would be different if you were stuck in the facility. Because you could leave wait for them to teleport back then rejoin
Actually that idk
But they cant do any team scans without you so rip
so does the whole map restart when the game updates because I remember completing all of the a levels and then I updated the game and it completely reset. any way to fix this?
When rundown 7 shows up( which ETA summer), rundown 6's progress will gone.
when a new rundown drops it is meant to reset, you can't fix it...
To be more specific, R5A1 and R6A1 completely separate levels, the same way that R5A1 and R5A2 were completely separate levels.
It's not a reset so much as the R5 campaign is not active anymore, but the R6 campaign is and you just don't have any progress on it.
alright
so true
lol
Does this game have built in tutorial? (Ping me to reply)
not really
but in the current rundown A1 can be considered tutorial-ish
which of the _2 missions is easiest to do all objectives on?
mostly just curious
Oof, honestly I'm kinda scared to go alone.
prisoner efficiency? or
i guess PE yeah
by _2 i mean like [Tier]2
ohh the B levels?
i'm confused
c3 easy fun pe zoom zoom " :D "
You can check out #lfg-beginners and try looking for other newer players
There is c3 pe and d3 pe. The easier one is probably c3.
So, B2, C2, and D2?
Or B tier?
If the former, B2.
If the latter, B1.
Or do you mean all non-priority missions?
Still B2 if so.
former
Yeah, B2. The difficulty per tier is generally a fairly consistent progression.
C2 will be harder than B2, and D2 will be harder than C2.
Does "6.5 extension" mean that all current expeditions will still be playable after the update? Just want to be sure that I don't need to rush with 100% completion rn before devs release this patch.
Yup, all current ones will stay, new ones get added on
nice! thank you vm for the info
Ok so my group was running D3 PE, and we had 3 people defending in the room before the cocoon area. We made sure to stay in the room away from where the enemies were spawning. After about 20 or so wave spawns, we suddenly heard it spawn behind us
The wave spawned in the double tank room somehow, and made the entire room wake up. Does anyone know what happened?
I have had this happen before
Did you fail a few attempts of doing overload
prior to this happening?
Like dying and then starting over again?
nope, this was our first run of the night
hmm
we just suddenly had a random wave spawn behind us
I've never had it happen on an initial run
Just a rare bug.
once the person going to terminal is 2 rooms away from tank zone you guys can also move 2 rooms away from it
and then you can't get fucked by it anymore
just adapt..
Join the just adapt squad!! 🤓
join my clan
join my clan
clash of clans tune goes off
Visible Disgust
Anyhow.
I don't like how machine pistol is growing onto me
stagger slave haha!
I see some weapons or tools have run down specific what does it mean?
means they're likely to be removed when R7 comes
Ok, thanks.

when was the extension. wasn't it april 13th? i forgot
#game-announcements usually holds info like that
what if it?
yes
yes
Can I play without bots and players?
set the other slots to locked
Okay, thanks!
anyone know the VA who did the "warning: threat level" lines?
might be a long shot, but I was hoping to see if they're available to commission a custom voice line 
you gotta believe hard enough
follow the meta build
hmmm. here is a question. how do you really add mod in gtfo
get a mod manager
Actually read rule 12. Youll get what you want to know there
aye, rule 12.
Hey I had a question, is there a plan to improve the ping system in the future, when I play I have had some issues getting it to work on objectives and items
from terminal? what problems have you had
No I meant like on the ui thing where you can actually ping like apex
Not the console
not that i know, but they're pretty much slowly updating everything.
what problems have you had.
The ping won't work if you're too far away from objects, doors, etc. If there's desync, the ping might seem delayed.
But still, I'm not sure what's the exact problem you're having with it.
i feel like pinging not working past a certain distance is either a limitation or a conscious decision.
if you mean for being able to ping the environment, it was actually possible but they opted to not have it in the end because it was too 'powerful'
likely the second one
it's pretty based because you get a red x as crosshair

It's distance limited
Gotta be a certain distance.
I primarily use pinging to figure out if doors are closed or not after you get that visual bug from doing checkpoints
thanks bro
thanks bro
between the DMR and the Pistol, which is better?
on regular strikers, pistol probably.
but, with only headshots and any main damage boost, dmr probably.
in any case, dmr has better ttk
i don't really use boosters.
back in r1 i used to run DMR revolver or DMR shotty alot, but it just doesn't work the same with the new stamina system
midrange combat is dead in gtfo
i basically force myself to not use dmr helgun at this point, so i dont know what you're talking about.
what are you on
lmao
with the trillion buffs that the current guns have recieve its better than ever
aint that meta in that nutshell?
dmr/pistol, helgun,sniper or if you really want heavy ar
side-dodging depression.
my side dodge wont stop hurting
more like "they bugged the dodge mechanic with stamina and they havent fix it yet"
depression*
5 meters to 5 inches
yes i just used both systems of measurement.
39.2 times weaker is the answer.
@shadow flower was nerfing side-dodge intended or was it an accident when implementing the new stamina system? as sad as it is, i thought it was intended to be this way.
I heard that it was an unintended consequence of lowering the speed cap from slide spamming
But unconfirmed
DMR, but comes down to preference and playstyle. Pistol also arguably has better synergy with some special weapons than the DMR does.
Pistol also has a better ammo economy, but this doesn't often matter assuming a high level of performance with the weapons in question.
Hey, so everything I've been reading online says that the prisoner you play as is directly related to what player slot you join as when you join the lobby. It seems like no matter what I join in as or if I host or not, I am always Bishop. Is there a reason for this, and if so can I change it in any way? This has persisted since I installed the game for the first time three days ago.
You arent?
I should be Woods when I host, right?
Typically when you host. You are Woods
May be with how you have set the bots as well
https://gyazo.com/d87983ad24070bb500368b4d19be7c50 Are we sure I'm Woods right now? I thought Hackett had the hoodie but when I join as Player 3 I don't get it 😦
Sorry for the external link. Can't post images in this channel.
But my character model persists on all slots. Is that normal?
Also your own cosmetics are collected from the cosmetic acquisition objectives
You dont get the character outfits like previous rundowns
Your character is still Hackett. However his outfit isnt there
Since character customization exists now
Also note that Hackett's helmet is special in that his mask has parts of the mask in red and his head wrap a wetworks yellow cap with the hood over it
Don’t know the details on that, I can check thou
Which expedition was it for Hackett’s Helmet unlock, again?
You can get his mask from the secondary pool
Or the non named one form the main pool
you talking hooded lemon head or mammoth?
or just standard lemon head
Considering Hackett's default is Hooded lemon head I would assume that one.
Not the hoodless lemon head
that's obtained as a chance drop from secondary sectors.

How do you defeat the mother in D2 quickly?
the one at the start?
Shotguns/Scatterguns are best. Clear the babies out and then run in and blap blap
scattergun cough cough
If you have some fog repellers it might make life a bit easier too
i like to bait the babies up the ladder into a hammer grinder, usually just rush her down after that.
Just be careful not to fall into the big troughs in that room when running through her fog. You'll be infected pretty bad and there aren't loads of disinfect packs
just chuck a few fogs before opening the door.
Thats if she is obliging enough to run out. Doesn't normally happen for me
Or if you're baiting her, I guess
too close. too long line of sight.
other option is rushdown mother as soon as the door opens
but i like my health
the fun option
if you're patient enough you could wait for her to get close to the door or even better come out of the door
then just burst her down before she gets to birth
I'm having issues with staying connected to a group. I feel bad because I just can't help or just DC constantly. Does anyone have any tips for staying connected to groups?
This is either a connection issue on your end or you're playing others different regions
Troubleshoot your connection
make sure you'll well connected, via whatever you'are connected, ethernet/wifi
make sure your not too separated by region like shiki mention
if regions a problem, make sure you using a friend whos in the middle of everybody
or have the most stable internet out of everybody
verify game cache and shit just in case too cuz game do be weird sometimes
i aint even gonna sya
anything

Honestly I've heard many people have crash issues even after verifying integrity
i dont customize a lot of my computer, ive seen people had trouble with gtfo and other game due to drivers and other factors
im a vanilla boy
So basically I'm screwed because of my internet? Nothing I can do in game to make connections more reliable?
It's just ironic that the ones I experience have 30 series and beast pcs
jus tgave you a lot of alternative
Mid range gang
i would assume its driver issues more than not
the wonders of pc gaming
I personally think more than half of the 30 series owners dont have it optimized well. If they struggle to run many games
im getting a 3050 laptop :[, dont give me any bad news please
i want to be blissfully ignorant about it kekw
30 series are nice if optimized correctly
I don't have friends I play with, I use LFG so the best I can do is only play with people in my region. I don't know how to verify game cache and it sounds like that probably won't help
But it's a pre built I'm assuming 3050 laptop
Probably just gotta update the drivers and all that
Ram?
We all use lfg's, ive meet all my friends there, so thats no excuse, if you having problems connecting, then try troubleshooting it, if not always be the one hosting the game, verifyng the game cache will make sure you have all the correct files so you can atleast guarantee thats not the problem
you could have corrupted or incomplete files witch can happen
eh windows and it's ecosystem gets unreliable in performance if you don't take particular care of it
it sucks
just be a chad and youtube OPTIMIZE WINDOWS 10/11 FOR GAMING
xD
with honeslty its just disabling game bar in a nutshell
Just dont do those stupid tiktok/shorts optimizations
in win11 it's a tad harder and requires you to do it in reg
:sadge:
😩
my new laptop comes with wins 11
i wanna kms
i should just hold and hope it gets better
feels like they pulling another win 8 again
with the tablet shit that obviously didnt work out
eh, some stuff usually works
but always do research before blindly deleting system32 
it's not that bad tbh
well... at least just as bad as win10 lol
I mean win 10 its fine
never really had issues with it
The ones I've seen technically do clear up space/ram but also clear up data that helped the cumpooter run faster
some people told me win 11 its just win 10 but "more secure" but with different UI
so im just hoping i will like win 11 in the long run rather than loosing my shit for some minor UI changes
And especially Do not fall for the download more ram bs XD
need some for gtfo
reducing ram usage is actually useless unless you have a computer with like 2gb lol
unused ram is wasted ram as they say
it's a different story with services that use up cpu periodically or hook to protocols that might cause issues for the games or other programs
game bar can cause some problems with OBS if not disabled completely
though I still need to do more testing to see how impactful it is
I'd be playing the google dinosaur game


hey are there any secondary objectives on a1?
no
@viral nexus When you click on a mission in the rundown overview it tells you what sectors it has
oki
Hey I'm having some trouble, when i try to join on other people it says waiting on master or something like that then joining session then it goes back to normal screen, any suggestions?
The slots might be locked in as [Bot Only]
Or locked slot
That or their lobby is bugged one way or another
If that happens to you on multiple lobbies, you might have connection issue with Steam cloud, one possible reason is your Steam client is out of date, try force quit Steam client and update it if this is the case.
Hey is there an inactivity timer for the game, running an expedition but two of our players had to leave to go sleep, is it possible to leave it on overnight and pick up the next day where we left off?
totally possible
Thanks :)
@finite plinth @minor fractal @latent obsidian @wooden osprey So we managed to pass D1 with 3 sniper sentries and C-foam. The key to this was the load out change. The HAR made the difference a lot. It could manage a huge wave. And of course the c-foam was pretty helpful for the last waves before the last door. We had it on floor and it reduced the speed of them coming so we could kill them. Thank you all. Now we step to D2.
Good job! Good luck on D2 🙂
Great job but why am I tagged? Did I forget something?!?
I'm guessing the 4 tagged were offering advice on D1?
Tagged because I told you I would come back for the advice. Thank you again
How do dodge melee guys
wha
How do I dodge hits from strikers
@lilac fulcrum what goes through your guys' minds when designing new guns and tools?
any insight on the process?
Good question
That sounds like a good question for @shadow flower to turn into a dev blog.
ohhhhhh @shadow flower.....
also where would we find dev blogs?
Yeeees
We haven't done super many yet, but I am, right now, cutting talks with the level designers. So more is coming
@ calle please add a "news" link like here at the top bar because it's not anywhere else except the home page in the middle somewhere
Yea, at some point, when we have more news 😉
Soon™️
Lmao I love how you wrote that with mouse
Not bad tho
Writing on mouse isn’t exactly the easiest thing lol
can we please get the Drekker 556 back pls?
what was the drekker 556
rifle
So I assume each levels have it own difficulty?
yes
hey im thinking about buying the game. Can you guys tell me if its worth it and what exactly can i expect with the GTFO experience??
Lore, stealth kills, angry gamers, stress but in a good way like adrenaline, a lot or learning and a lot of time getting sucked into the game since missions last long
It can vary a lot depending on the mission, player skill, and if you do optional objectives (which not all missions have)
Id say first runs are always a lot longer
Longest mission ive ever had personally was like 3h
Shortest is like 15 mins or smt like that
But average id sayyyyy
1h-2h?
Between that
That sounds about right, yeah
@cunning prairie keep in mind average varies on the amount of levels in a rundown
And how many later levels there are
Ive had a 3 hour run on a level before and on my second try i did it in an hour
So first runs if ur playing with players who have never done the level before are usually pretty long
For the best gaming experience ud highly recommand playing only with people who havent played that level already before
alright ill keep that in mind
Would be nice hearing some insights or seeing WIPs of some upcoming weapons or tools if any are being worked on.
Secret
DMR lite. basically pistol dmr hybrid
an actual midrange weapon
of that there are surprisingly few
ye i have used it before im just not familiar with the sub names like the drekker 556
The buckland its my favorite machingun
The 5th one
the buckland veruta xx
that's the techman
nah mastaba arbalist man
Omneco*
hel gun
i've got this stuff memorized
Thats bataldo which is new
hanaway = far away = DMR
Buckland = buck = shotgun
shelling = artillery = impact = stuns = pistol
Thats a bit far
ltc5 = left. trigger. controls. shooting.
(for the smg)
Omneco = omni = all = multiple = penetrating = HEL
LX = ? i dunno but i always remember it's the main AR
ch4 is the burst
then the one that isn't those two is the har
konig reminds me of the battleship and the konig is sniper that does truckloads of damage
they are both maltack, it's the manufacturer
there are 3 maltack guns
Ik
maul = darth maul = maul/mail = maulmen
AR HAR BURST
af6 = combat shotty, 6 meters range
arbalist, like chopping down trees super powerful rounds
veruta for some reason makes me think of a gorgon, the ancient mythical snake that turns enemies into stone
so stuns
i dunno,
point is, you eventually start to remember all the weapons names weither trying to avoid it or not
r1 r3 r5 mg
i would know if the arbalist was in r3. it's my favorite machinegun, it wasn't
i wish it was
but it's only been in two rundowns
the og in rundown 1, and the clone of the veruta in 5
hol on let me find smth
Do artifacts stack with other players? Like if 4 players did a teamscan with bioscan speed up would it be super fast?
everyone gets artifacts progress
oh
bioscan speed yes it stacks
but only for you
so if you have 3 people with bioscan in one scan it will go that % faster in total
additively
Ok perfect ty
no your right there was no mg in r3 there was only the burst cannon
it was probably the more balance version
r4 was just too broken
specially with canceling
true
Why use those weapons when you have "MOZAMBIQUE HERE!"
Reminds me of the people that say they like using the Buckland
Me: which buckland do you mean?

Techman something.
Inb4 nerf to 19 damage.

Inb4 I just want Sawed off shotgun to be able to shoot faster
That delay between shots prevents me from double tapping charger scouts
It's specific case yeah
Most cases in D2 Though I'm probably running like Carbine or hel revo
Special wise I'm always using Choke/helgun unless the team needs something more specialized like Sniper or HAR
Pump is so satisfying for charger scouts tbh.
Outside of D2/D3. I'm probably using Machine pistol
The extra positioning requirements is neato.
Gotto mash that fire button.
yeah because normal people say, pump shotgun or chokemod etc
It's a lot of the newer players that state actual weapon names
"I like the malatack"
Me: which one.
they better learn quick cuz nobody who plays this game will actually talk to you in manufacturer leanguage
Average sniper user vs. chad Koning enjoyer.
Or some say Drekker/Koning and people just like "what gun is that again??"
i havent seen someone say the names of the guns in forever, only in here
Bro I met someone who said the actual manufacturer names for the sentries and us 3 were like. "What sentry??"
nobody ingame says the actual names in my experience
Him:BRO THE MECHATRONIC ONE. (SMH)
He said he uses the mechatronic.
We ask which one is the mechatronic
He says it's the mechatronic one.
Us:...
Everyone else: burst sentry

(I dont actually remember if burst is named mechatronic but I know one of them is named that)
Oh, Autotek is sniper sentry, so it does have a weird name.
Mechatronic SGB3 Burst Sentry
I know shotgun sentry was mechatronic, so that's probably why.
Mechatronic B5 LFR Shotgun Sentry
Ye
At the very least I dont hear people going
Bro use the D-Tek Optron IV
Bio Tracker

Then theres Stalwart G2 and Krieger 04
You guys remember the Drekker Pres MOD 556?
I'm actually a little surprised scatter and the rifle share a manufacturer.
Yeah when I saw that while just scanning wiki for HAR stats
2 vastly different weapons
Hmmm Heavy SMG and Bullpup are the same manufacturer
I think Shelling is the only manufacturer to only appear one time.
Mastaba and Koning as well right?
Technically also Batalda
but Mastaba has its name associated with the knife.
Yee I guessed the name off the top of my head
Ah really?
Where is my MW2 Revolver with tactical knife at 
Mastaba Fixed Blade
Lol Bat is a Kovacs weapon
gotta love the transition from primary to special
Idk it's stats when it was a main weapon though so rip
I hardly played r4/r5
doesnt surprise me knowing they enforce the security for miners during their excavations in the lore
Me: what is with this bio scan security bs
I would say it was more for the people who misbehave more than the sleepers 😅
Hanaway special weapon when
Still funny how bat can function like knife for smol sleepers
Half charge headshots. It's a little slower and different swinging arc but still faster than hammer while still having 1 tap shooter occi
knife feels better to use imo
bat its more of a CC weapon than anything
you can perma stagger biigs with light attacks
quite useful in clutch scenarious
Besides it's swinging arc it feels like a more stable dmg knife
Also I love how Spear has less stagger charged than normal hits
It was very efficient, but as a main weapon it wasn't very good.
You need to hit far too many shots.
Which is generally a problem with automatic weapons in the main slot.
It was at least better than some of the alternatives, but I think it says a lot that they buffed the shit out of it and moved it to the special slot.
Main weapons are just necessarily held back compared to special weapons.
Arent they held back since their suppose to be our back up weapons
even the ammo distribution shows that
Yes, that's what I mean.
You can't have a powerhouse built for the main slot, at least not how the game is currently balanced.
what do you think a buff to saw off look like
i would increase its effective range and reduce spread a little so its a little more consistent
No strong opinions tbh, I don't really use the weapon.
or even hear much about it compared to other weapons.
mastaba also made the combat knife
konig doesn't have any other weapons in-game
what's wrong with saying the s870?
cuz its stupid
lmao
specially when discussing balacing
havent meet a single soul who talks in manufacturer names
only in the discord chat and even then very rarely
s870 isn't the manufacturer, and who would?
it's the name of the model
people call shotguns 12 gauges, and 20 gauges
not "pump shotguns"
i'm not, i'm midwestern. we always go by numbers first
there are like 400 different kind of pump shotguns. there is nothing wrong with going by model numbers
ah yes our 400 shotgus in game
not in-game, no. but in principle
we got the pump, the combat, the choke and the scatter!
Most people playing the game know the weapons by their common names, and that's generally perfectly fine when there is exactly one instance of common name overlap (machinegun).
i'm just saying, that's not how everybody talks
you wouldn't see a northerner say "y'all" but it is very common vernacular in the south
even then with the machineguns we do say the r1/5 machine gun or r2/4 machine gun respectively
and then some of your team says "the what" and you say "the machinegun" 
no because it doesn't exist anymore
you didnt play r4 and r5 so obviously you skipped the part
i never ever have that scenario. who are you playing with?
i have never, EVER had anybody ask me what gun the veruta is.
everyone knows it's the orange machinegun
Yes, because the MGs actually have overlap, so their names are more common knowledge.
As opposed to the Klust, everyone calls it the BC because there are no other BCs.
I can tell you from the like years of playing this game consistently and pubbing troughout it nobody ever calls them by veruta or arbalist
well given the fact i exist then your wrong.
i am somebody therefor not nobody
manufacturer names allways do get used in the lore channels tho
why do you keep saying manufacturer names?
we aren't saying the maltack for every single AR
cuz your using the name of the gun
it's model names
and the manufacturer etc
if you are going to complain do it right
the s870 is my favorite secondary in this game aside from the arbalist back in r1, and my favorite primary has to be a toss up between the hanaway and the LX
man you talking chinese to me
this is NORMAL
lmao
i don't care if you buy it or not that's not my problem?











