kind of has been enough ammo most the time
#gtfo-related-questions
viscid wolf
R4E1 moment
covert apex
R4E1 moment
The level has more ammo than you can even consume
Even if you shoot all six waves
soft crater
thats when you commit GTFO pvp with the extra ammo
topaz anvil
That is the question
There's something about it that is clearly out of place
clearly
Im not stretching dw
:^)
soft crater
inb4 the devs are just changing the number to fk with us
topaz anvil
God I would cry
dapper nimbus
inb4 the devs are just changing the number to fk with us
:)
Its clearly a countdown
But when does it stop?
fierce oracle
By the mere fact that the number is incrementing, it is simply not a countdown
bold atlas
How long does it take for a new rundown to come out?
im very sad I missed the first 5 rundowns
cosmic marten
there used to be a timer
but im guessing to prevent crunch or reduce crunch
they removed it
midnight gazelle
How long does it take for a new rundown to come out?
Depends on when they feel like it.
R6 came out in December
Could be tomorrow, could be next week, could be next month, could be in june.
minor fractal
there used to be a timer
There was never a timer, for the record.
cosmic marten
yea there was, in old rundowns
minor fractal
This was all promotional material, the timer was only ever implemented 2 weeks prior.
cosmic marten
well there ya go
minor fractal
No, there was never a timer at release for any rundown.
cosmic marten
minor fractal
This is exactly what I mean, promotional material.
minor fractal
R1 didn't have a timer at release, R2, didn't have a timer at release, R3 didn't have a timer at release...
ruby wasp
wasn't it a timer before the release ?
cosmic marten
go to 1:22
minor fractal
No, there was never a timer at release for any rundown.
.
cosmic marten
well then im still right
minor fractal
This was all promotional material, the timer was only ever implemented 2 weeks p...
.
cosmic marten
they had the idea
realised it was a bad time crunch idea
and didn't do it
idk what's hard to grasp here
minor fractal
My contention is entirely with the misrepresentation of how it was implemented in EA.
worthy siren
is it normal to get 60fps at the beginning of dropping into the level after hsu animation?
rigid sinew
i guess
rigid sinew
lol
ruby wasp
I'm always impressed by how the game gives me like 800 FPS on the rundown menu
But divides it by 20 once i enter a level
š³
rigid sinew
:troll:
I think I've managed to squeeze a tad more performance with dxvk, but I still need to run more benchmarks to confirm
wonder how it runs with dgvoodoo2
naive ingot
hey so my friends have tried on and on again to make a lobby with all of us and it ends up one person not seeing one other in the lobby and ends up costing us tons of time, is there a fix for this?
minor fractal
hey so my friends have tried on and on again to make a lobby with all of us and ...
Have you tried switching hosts already?
shrewd dirge
make sure you dont have any network shapers on that modify traffic priority
naive ingot
We tried switching hosts and nothing changed, how can I tell if I have a network shaper?
shrewd dirge
We tried switching hosts and nothing changed, how can I tell if I have a network...
you're probably better off asking the #gtfo-technical-support
because they're probably better equipped with the information i cant recall at the moment.
floral acorn
usually its someone using a vpn, or indeed an asus gamefirst or such, could be preinstalled on a branded pc
someone had a secondary ip on wan, led to identical problems
lunar rain
ok so my host disconnected and now the game is stuck
is there anyway for him to reconnect?
verbal ingot
what is that server notice?
brazen sigil
I was about to ask the same thing. Mildly mysterious
rain thunder
Have they fixed toggle sprint in any of the recent patches?
karmic frigate
Have they fixed toggle sprint in any of the recent patches?
Itās never been brokenā¦
By default itās turned off
You just gotta turn it on
karmic frigate
kekw influx of newbies don't know the running gag
What
OHHHHH
OKAY I JUST CLICKED
Ive got 600 hours in the game I thought he was serious
Far from a newbie
karmic frigate
it's a running gag in discord specifically
You mean this discord
distant ice
yes
karmic frigate
The joke is stamina
distant ice
search for all messages from this dude and look
karmic frigate
Not very funny
rigid sinew
karmic frigate
What's this thing with <@516697954405580821> "acquire objective stack"?
Dm him that
acquire objective task
Just that
ancient spoke
And then read an agreement
ancient spoke
Huh?
karmic frigate
From what ive heard
ancient spoke
š¤
rain thunder
Toggle sprint is actually broken
it doesn't work like 99% of other games
where its either on or off
midnight gazelle
If you read the agreement, this looks to be a competition of sorts where if they select your file.. It'll probably be put into the game.
rain thunder
instead of toggling off appropriately based on conditions
midnight gazelle
Toggle sprint is actually broken
toggle sprint bad
rigid sinew
^
rain thunder
Its juist a control scheme implementation that many poeple use
who cares if you like it or don't I am just wondering if its been implemented appropraitely because I use it
rigid sinew
likely no fixes for now
you can try using advanced mapping with steam input in the meantime I guess
some time ago I made a config that triggered the sprint function when you pull your stick all the way to the border
tranquil arch
You can literally change the setting for it to be hold
But the toggle works fine in my experience
So idek
tranquil arch
instead of toggling off appropriately based on conditions
Wait, you're saying you want the game to auto toggle for you based on stealth or on stamina or something
Because that is dumb
That would be broken
Because it would constantly interfere with the players choice of when to toggle
rain thunder
Toggle sprint in almost all implementation disabels sprint when you release movement keys. In fact most hitting sprint again does nothing as sprint is merely a toggle on and the normal way to disable it is to release movement keys
this is how its done in R6, battlefield, call of duty, red dead, etc etc
its just a muscle memory and consistency thing, not a huge deal, hopefully they fix it in the future
rigid sinew
how does it work in GTFO?
rain thunder
if you hit the sprint key it toggles a flag to on or off, depending on what that flag is set to when you are moving you are either sprinting or not sprinting
rain thunder
how does it work in GTFO?
As an example:
In most toggle sprint applications: [hold w] -> running forward -> [tap shift] -> sprinting forward -> [release w] -> stop -> [hold w] -> running forward.
In GTFO: [hold w] -> running forward -> [tap shift] -> sprinting forward -> [release w] -> stop -> [hold w] -> sprinting forward.
tranquil arch
Just hit shift again
rain thunder
So the player just has to try and remember what their sprint toggle is set to
tranquil arch
This shouldn't be an issue for you
rain thunder
yeah lol
rigid sinew
that's something I didn't know
rain thunder
Its wild, its really bizzarre
playing dozens of games this one really screws with my muscle memory
rigid sinew
well I can try to make a steam input config later if you want as a temp fix
rain thunder
I appreciate you but its all good
just gonna use hold sprint until they fix their implenmetation
polar summit
Not sure if this counts as a GTFO question or not, but does the language integration program do anything in-game?
karmic frigate
Not sure if this counts as a GTFO question or not, but does the language integra...
Maybe
We donāt know what itās for
Might be for in game tho
Like next rundown
polar summit
Odd. Canāt wait to see.
native urchin
Does anyone know wtf that ping was about
karmic frigate
Does anyone know wtf that ping was about
Submit your voice
earnest pulsar
Does anyone know wtf that ping was about
native urchin
Is it like a VA application thing?
earnest pulsar
<#408584474767523860>
close enough
native urchin
Or like an ARG thing
karmic frigate
Is it like a VA application thing?
Wdym
earnest pulsar
not everyone, it's just there if you want to
karmic frigate
Why did they ask everyone to submit their voice
We donāt know
But probably for in game
Prolly next rundown
karmic frigate
I didnt submit it
Was busy
My voice would be crap for it tho
High pitched
Doesnt have that intense game deepness
grizzled widget
My voice would be crap for it tho
Community Calle said it won't matter
earnest pulsar
as long as you say it stressed and concerned enough, I'd imagine it would sound fine
grizzled widget
In regards to pronunciation or whatever
grizzled widget
If you want to go for it, go for it.
karmic frigate
I will
grizzled widget
I personally reccomend a program like audacity if you've never done something like this before.
earnest pulsar
@grizzled widget I just remembered to ask you this, how do you get your pictures made into stickers/emotes on the server? do you just dm them to mod mail and ask?
karmic frigate
Idk
grizzled widget
Hm? My stamps?
earnest pulsar
grizzled widget
There is a form I believe
karmic frigate
My baby
grizzled widget
In discord announcements
Way up
You can make submissions for the mods to review
karmic frigate
made this
earnest pulsar
Way up
my brain went straight to the first episode of rick and morty, I should see a psychiatrist
desert falcon
karmic frigate
Lmao
desert falcon
that has the form on it
karmic frigate
Wayyyyy up there mortu
graceful sand
I'm not sure if it's just me or does the fog and lighting seem kinda..not bad but could be improved upon if you get what I mean is there a way I could make it seem better or is that more of how the game looks for now?
viscid wolf
that's just how it looks
they rehauled the lighting this rundown and it has mixed reactions
you'll just have to live with it
turning bloom off helps a lot but that's the extent
earnest pulsar
I'm not sure if it's just me or does the fog and lighting seem kinda..not bad bu...
graceful sand
thank you.
worthy siren
when did r5 come out?
soft crater
harsh hedge
anyone know the purpose of The Warden bot thing
grizzled widget
anyone know the purpose of The Warden bot thing
well it's the old bot
but it has a new use rn
you can use a code and submit a voice recording
for what purpose? we don't know yet.
harsh hedge
mysterious
midnight basin
How often are there new rundowns
cosmic marten
depends on the rundown length
some are only a few weeks
some are months
this one has been on for like 3-4 months so we think the new one will be soon
weary mesa
I don't think there's ever been a rundown that's been less than 2 months, besides the Beta and Alpha
noble sierra
6 rundowns in 2 year, rundowns with extension last longer.
soft crater
beta was 6 days
finite plinth
but was merged
bold current
Whens R7?
turbid horizon
Imagine they just slam us with 5 E levels
Because 1 A, 2B, 3C, 4D, so obviously we need E 1-5
inner field
Well, that would depend on what the levels would contain, and how difficult they make them. 
inner field
We don't have enough extra objectives imo, and the ones we do have are BEYOND short. Maps feel too small/linear than they used to
I miss having pointlessly big zones with loot spread out massively
Kinda added to the feel of "dread"
and the older lighting aswell
minor fractal
Have things really changed that much?
turbid horizon
I kinda agree with that, Iāve only played R6 but Iāve seen gameplay of older rundowns and a lot of their extra objectives felt harder/more interesting
inner field
Well some extra objectives might've been too long
Some of them were longer than the inherent mission itself
Like full reactors
turbid horizon
Especially with how a lot of those objectives changed the way you played the rest of the level
turbid horizon
Like full reactors
Oh ic
inner field
Or grabbing items
turbid horizon
Yeah that sounds ab annoying
inner field
Most of the current ones don't really feel like they change that much, as you have WAY more ways to deal with stuff. In the terms of ammo
minor fractal
Modifiers and "levels within levels" both have their places, seems more like a coincidence to me that R6 uses a lot of modifiers.
inner field
You can do just about any level with only shooting, no stealthing at all
pseudo cloud
I have a question about submitting voice lines to the bot, can you only do it the once or can you share multiple different variations?
minor fractal
I have a question about submitting voice lines to the bot, can you only do it th...
Only once
D0c confirmed.
inner field
Yeah, R4 had a lot of ERROR alarms, where you just went and did one objective really fast. And then you had error for the rest of the mission
turbid horizon
Most of the current ones don't really feel like they change that much, as you ha...
Maybe thatāll change with the extended rundown, this IS the rundown thats attracting new players after all
The 1.0 hype and all
inner field
That is true, newer players wouldn't feel the same way I or other players do
Because It's quite hard to form a perspective from something you can only assume is one way
turbid horizon
Yeah, for my group, C1 was pretty tough the first time
When we finished, we were like āhow would we ever do other levels?ā
Now weāve fully completed all C levels, I think the devs curved this rundowns difficulty for the influx of newbies
inner field
When we finished, we were like āhow would we ever do other levels?ā
This feeling is only amplified 10 folds in older ones. There were ways to "Kite" the enemies (there still are, just a bit more finicky 
). But for most newer players in older ones a scout would = a wipe
And then It's all back to the beginning
which is probably one of the parts i miss the most. Checkpoints as they are implemented now, sort of promotes a "Brute Force" gameplay loop or mentality
minor fractal
Tbh, scouts were almost never a wipe even if you weren't hammering everything.
inner field
So instead of going back to lobby and thinking "What did we do wrong?" or "What could we have done differently?". They just spam checkpoints and get the lucky one eventually
minor fractal
If you were that low on resources it was either a very tight level or you weren't doing that well to begin with.
inner field
What i mean was that newer players used to have quite a troublesome time
But if you got on the kiting train, or just well versed at the game. Then most things didn't pose much of a threat
turbid horizon
So instead of going back to lobby and thinking "What did we do wrong?" or "What ...
Oh thats funny, my group does the opposite. We wiped on C2 Hybrid alarm, and started planning out how we would pull the rooms before the gen into a mine, then weād have our Cfoamer perma cfoam the door to get the rest of us out
inner field
Yeah newer player wise R6 hits quite well. You can for sure see the current rundown is tailored with newer players in mind, not veterans
turbid horizon
I think for some people checkpoints actually encourage more thinking
inner field
Well most streams & such I've seen on twitch
or people I've played with in pubs
They brute force
turbid horizon
Oh lmao ok i can see that
Yeah C2 felt so good to execute once we got our plan working
inner field
Not much consideration when playing, which the older ones encouraged by having the "reset" factor when you die
Back to lobby with you :D
turbid horizon
For us at least, it encouraged better planning and new strategies z
Actually taught us a lot about pulling rooms and holding waves
And juggling items
Stupid hybrids
inner field
Yeah, but that usually from what I've seen. Warrants that you have that sort of mentality to some extent beforehand. While a lot of people don't, and that usually leads to this "brute force" way of playing.
turbid horizon
Yeah, idk why people brute force so much, literally this game gives you all of the tools to plan (maps, doors) and the fact that so many people force instead of planning is sad
minor fractal
No agency.
turbid horizon
Like when we did Pressure Point PE, we started considering doors as a resource
minor fractal
Tbf, I kind of feel like a lot of the people that play that way would have just quit outright instead, but maybe I'm too pessimistic.
You'd have people who'd get stuck on a specific level and just retry it 20-30 times in PuGs.
turbid horizon
Tbf, I kind of feel like a lot of the people that play that way would have just ...
Yeah, but a lot of others might have as well. My group wiped on the D1 last fight, and we straight up didnāt have time to run through the level again. The checkpoint allowed us to finish the level
minor fractal
That's what I'm saying, I mean.
inner field
Like when we did Pressure Point PE, we started considering doors as a resource
There is a thing that ruins that level a lot however, the checkpoint as of now has 3 states you can get it in. An increased amount of enemies spawn after the checkpoint, the level continues normally or only large biomass waves spawn
turbid horizon
I know ab that and the PE Bug makes me sad
inner field
And the last one really makes the entire level pretty redundant, removes 10min of regular sleepers
turbid horizon
What?
inner field
The only large biomass waves
turbid horizon
For us everything was normal except big papi didnt spawn
That is a problem with checkpoints on the devs end, which I will fully admit
inner field
Yep, if checkpoints worked to a more tolerable extend i can deal with them being in the game. But in their current state they shouldn't be here at all. I'd like them gone entirely, but i have come to terms with them being there
minor fractal
They seem fine as a feature imo, most levels only have 1 per anyway.
inner field
D1 
minor fractal
It's the priority missions that encourage brute forcing the hardest.
turbid horizon
I think they work really well, Iāve only seen major problems with the C3 checkpoint
inner field
C2 can commonly net you with the Secondary clear by simply entering it, and then reset from checkpoint and proceed to do only main instead
Same thing happens sometimes for C3
rigid sinew
yeah but that's more of a bug
inner field
That is true
minor fractal
Checkpoints are only really positive QoL for veterans anyway, neat exploration/practice tool for the non-checkpoint "true" run.
Makes PuGs less tedious as well.
turbid horizon
C2 can commonly net you with the Secondary clear by simply entering it, and then...
What in the world?
Yeah but those can be fixed, which will eventually happen
inner field
Hopefully
turbid horizon
Nah I believe in 10cc
rigid sinew
if they could make checkpoints kind of a level reload that sort of takes into account previously used/picked resources that would be arguably better
minor fractal
Nah I believe in 10cc
The wonders of not playing during early access.
turbid horizon
if they could make checkpoints kind of a level reload that sort of takes into ac...
Vouch
To prevent cheese from key locations
inner field
I mean I'd want to be optimistic, but I don't want to ruin my expectations by believing they would listen to us at all.
rigid sinew
turbid horizon
I think itās more a matter of that they want their game to be the best it can be in terms of not being buggy, and so they absolutely will listen to players for bugs
inner field
There are plenty of unfixed bugs that i will not mention, that have been here since r1-r3
But like Ray said, the wonders of not having played prior versions 
rigid sinew
eh I guess you could say most of those bugs are cope-able
inner field
Very much agreed
Just saying that having a 100% bug free game is not the main poi for 10cc as far as i can see
Mostly just content and then quelling the major game breaking bugs that are most commonly encountared
turbid horizon
laughs in scout desync
rigid sinew
hmm
rigid sinew
I've never had scout desync in my life I swear
turbid horizon
I keep thinking Kats pfp has a mustache
rigid sinew
you are a mustache
turbid horizon
Good point
minor fractal
Scout desync meant you had to play as host or as client, so it's nice it's standardized.
Then as client there was built-in RNG.
finite plinth
c3 checkpoint cringe
finite plinth
- an extra 10s scan
- the door opening animation
- desync leading to door not opening correctly
- literally a 34 min level, why the need for a checkpoint
cosmic marten
eussi lliks
finite plinth
shut up
latent obsidian
maybe Slonky can carry you
cosmic marten
maybe Slonky can carry you
man of knowledge i see
latent obsidian
You might be able to find some veterans to help you in the beginners lfg if its too rough
cosmic marten
skissue?
finite plinth
lfg beginners will help me
cosmic marten
the more i say skill issue the correcter i am
soft crater
"According to the pinger. We're already dead."
looks at all the thicc big enemies
Idk about that one.
cosmic marten
"my scanner says your all about to die"
viscid wolf
goteem
craggy pier
"According to the pinger. We're already dead."
I always wondered if there's a way to make those voice lines happen if you're the one holding the scanner
craggy pier
Yeah, but I'd love to know if there's a way to say those lines if you happen to have Hackett's voice while playing, and having the bioscanner, or if that's something only the bots say when they have the scanner out
Probably the latter.
soft crater
mhm
craggy pier
Darn.
All I wanted was the power of being able to spam 'say goodbye to yer bollocks'
tidal quarry
In combat itās just shouting that at the highest volume
bronze raven
full charge hammer kills scouts in head regardless of front/back right
unkempt ridge
full charge hammer kills scouts in head regardless of front/back right
yes
soft crater
The kill I rarely see is Revolver to occi for scouts
lethal cargo
Whats generally the best melee out of the 4
rigid sinew
hammer and bat are objectively the best ones
but it depends on play style
though it is kinda globally agreed that the spear doesn't have much use once you learn to use your melee
lethal cargo
what about the knife
shrewd dirge
good when you're not the party scout bonker
rigid sinew
it's not bad, but also not great
lethal cargo
also what does artifact heat mean
shrewd dirge
heat goes down when you grab an artifact and fail to lobby/complete a mission
each artifact you pick up adds to your progress for the type of booster
its .10 * heat += booster progress
if your booster progress >1, you get a booster of that type.
every artifact you pick up in different floors, raises the heat of every mission except the one you're in.
@lethal cargo
lethal cargo
also is muted bold agressive just determining the % it increases?
shrewd dirge
muted/bold/agg is the type of booster you add progress to
there are 3 different types
anything other than muted will come with drawbacks from using them
cosmic marten
or conditions
rigid sinew
heavy punishment
yeah...try next rundown
void bay
full charge hammer kills scouts in head regardless of front/back right
not the charger scouts though, right?
vocal plover
Is there someone i can ping?
inner field
Yes?
ruby wasp
Is there someone i can ping?
use biotracker lol
void bay
btw, about the biotracker - it frequently doesn't tag all of the enemies in the wave (and just tags 1 or 2 out of 10, for example)
Can't figure out if it's a bug or maybe I doesn't understand something
heavy kestrel
Chargers in general don't have a head weakpoint
You can still onetap chargers in the back with melee tho
heavy kestrel
btw, about the biotracker - it frequently doesn't tag all of the enemies in the...
Youre ADSing if it only marks one
Just dont hold RMB when using the tag
ruby wasp
You can still onetap chargers in the back with melee tho
Didn't say the opposite though
void bay
Youre ADSing if it only marks one
Well I thought it should tag everything I see on the tracker display
ruby wasp
He was speaking about charger scouts
void bay
I rarely RMB it, honestly
ruby wasp
Which can't be killed with a hit on the back without a proper melee damage boost
heavy kestrel
Yeah
ruby wasp
Well I thought it should tag everything I see on the tracker display
Before R6 it did actually
heavy kestrel
Well I thought it should tag everything I see on the tracker display
If theyre close and it only marks one, youre ADSing, if youre not ADSing and it only marks a few, it means theyre too far away
ruby wasp
According to D0c it's here for a future feature
i forgor why they decided to implement it in 2 parts tho
void bay
If theyre close and it only marks one, youre ADSing, if youre not ADSing and it ...
I swear I don't ADS 99% of the time and still misses some of them
I guess it's just confusing a bit for tags and display to differ this much
vital sierra
Well I thought it should tag everything I see on the tracker display
also desync happen
void bay
According to D0c it's here for a future feature
Alright, thanks, we'll see I guess
heavy kestrel
I swear I don't ADS 99% of the time and still misses some of them
I guess it's j...
Well, if it only misses some of them, its either theyre too far, or yeah, as ^ said, desync
I noticed that too, especially with bigger waves, there are some enemies in the big bunch that arent tagged
void bay
Well, if it only misses some of them, its either theyre too far, or yeah, as ^ s...
I see, thanks
thorny creek
Everytime that happens I just say "Epic biotracker fail" and then sob in shame
inner field
Bot Hackett & Bishop are simply built different
finite plinth
casually killing two tanks in d3pe with bots attempt, only for them to simultaneously lose brain cells and die from a singular giant while trying to get key to blood door in high
the average bot experience
turbid horizon
Bot Hackett & Bishop are simply built different
bot bishop saved my teams ass in C3 PE, he is very much built different
we all got downed when a hybrid wave jumped us as we were putting the cells into the cluster gen.
Except Bishop
He fought off the remaining hybrid and revived us
True soldier
soft crater
ADS with the bio gives it more range to track stuff
whereas normal pinging has shorter range to just a bit beyond the screen
finite plinth
soft crater
unfortunately ads bio is really only good for tracking scouts in further rooms
which helps in specifc areas where scouts can appear in like 1-2 out of 5 rooms
(besides c2 extreme. being 3 scouts but strange thing is how I've heard people getting 2 scouts in 1 room for this. probably just bad rng)
finite plinth
i mean it's rng afterall
turbid horizon
why was D2 easier than C2 for my group
finite plinth
I had 3 charger scouts in the same room in d4 before
finite plinth
when i was solo no checkpointing
turbid horizon
oh wait ur a soler
yeaaah
Oh yeah and i forgor we aren't gonna take cfoam for D4
turbid horizon
XD we currently doin 2 turrets, splody, and bio?
do you recommend cfoam?
i mean I know you only solo, but if you could take four tools, would you take cfoam?
heavy kestrel
why was D2 easier than C2 for my group
C2 is very hectic when doing secondary
And D2 you just need ammo, or the ability to somehow sneak past 2 mothers and 3 charger scouts in a room about as big as a high school locker
finite plinth
you don't even need to touch that room
heavy kestrel
Ik, but then you need ammo
soft crater
Ik, but then you need ammo
Skissue
finite plinth
but 8 uses in mom + blood doors
6 uses iirc in class 3 + charger scout
8 in error alarm zones
heavy kestrel
Cuz its alarm, 5 scout room, alert mother room, 2 blood doors, the error alarm with another alarm then the secondary with alarm, blood door and another alarm
Issa lot
finite plinth
and you can get 8 terms before checkpointing
soft crater
6 scout*
heavy kestrel
Or 6 yeah
finite plinth
so you can just checkpoint gaming until you win
finite plinth
sounds like a skill issue
heavy kestrel
Embed fail and skill issue, truly
finite plinth
it's pretty hard to wipe in error
unless you're asking clients to hold the class 5 alone
finite plinth
then in that case, gl team
heavy kestrel
But then i look up a vid of people playing, they keep getting downed, but then one ammo pack puts them at 100% ammo and they bing chillin
finite plinth
nice cheat
heavy kestrel
Artifacts gaming
finite plinth
it is technically a mod
soft crater
When you realize ammo packs only refill like 17%-18% for most primaries
heavy kestrel
It was a hyperbolisation, what i meant is they just have way too much ammo+healing efficiency and makes the lvl easy
One person ammo eff, one healing eff, and you technically have 2x loot in lvl, gg
finite plinth
of course provisions and other boosters makes it easy
when the game is balanced around resource management
heavy kestrel
Ye
ruby wasp
But then i look up a vid of people playing, they keep getting downed, but then o...
When boosters lower the necessary skill cap to clear a level š³
finite plinth
boosters reduces the need to manage
ruby wasp
Therefore no more need to waste your time clearing rooms stealthily
finite plinth
but tencent thinks boosters are a great idea
ruby wasp
Just trigger everything
finite plinth
so whatever
heavy kestrel
Ye i dunno, boosters seem kinda whack to me
finite plinth
i mean i do enjoy making my sniper sentry basically a 5th player
heavy kestrel
We all know that burst sentries play the game for you while you chase little capturable dots on the floor
finite plinth
maybe one day they'll fix burst sentry with sentry cpu speed
heavy kestrel
They dont get affected?
finite plinth
it doesn't reduce the delay between burst
but increase the rof of the burst
unless they changed it
bold atlas
what did the welding tool do?
wise thicket
It was more of a cutting torch
They said they still have it their just waiting for the right time to add it
turbid horizon
you can now attach the cutting tool to the LRF to melt your way out of the complex
soft crater
When boosters lower the necessary skill cap to clear a level š³
This is funny to me when people have so much ammo. It's really just 80% of that ammo doesnt finish off the sleepers or it goes straight into the walls/floor
ruby wasp
Classic š³
Even then some players still rely on cheese spots/strats to clear the levels
ruby wasp
I've even seen people cheese A1
seriously
Like they found some spot where enemies just stay below you and never attack you
soft crater
I despise guys who just monke stealth and cheese everything with new players because then they never learn attempting stuff themselves
ruby wasp
Classic
ruby wasp
Correct
aka repeating the same level 50 times without questioning themselves about what's wrong in their strats
š³
finite plinth
checkpoint moment
soft crater
ruby wasp
I swear some people just don't know how to goddamn stealth the tank room
The room is the size of a fucking 5 star hotel's floor
soft crater
I swear some people just don't know how to goddamn stealth the tank room
My last 5 runs ruined because mfs cant fkn stelf
ruby wasp
Well this is what happened to me once
soft crater
saving you the migraine
Guy didnt even tell us he alerted tank room. We found out from it banging on the door next to us
finite plinth
based
ruby wasp
Some dude playing with us who got scared IRL for some reason
and of course he pulled the trigger
š³
soft crater
We woke a giant in tank room before and we began hammering it. THAT ONE MF. Blasts it with his hel revo
I laugh because this guy had "Please Know what you're doing" next to his LFG
wanton bay
is gtfo more accessible to "solo play" since full release?
finite plinth
depends on how you define solo play
wanton bay
depends on how you define solo play
playing alone from start to finish of a level, without speedrunning or anything "out of the ordinary" (not sure what's considered a normal run, haven't played in a while)
finite plinth
technically solo solo is harder because you can't run away from problems as easy as before
but you still got hel gun
wanton bay
so it depends on how you define solo play
oooh, there's bots now
finite plinth
and you got burst sentry and har for a to c1 and d1
wanton bay
oooh, there's bots now
how useful are the bots? i assume they don't just run in guns blazing, but are they micromanaged by the player or just AI companions that do their own thing?
wanton bay
is playing sneakily (sneaking up to grunts and bonking them etc.) not that feasible with bots?
finite plinth
they won't kill anything on their own or sync kills
but they'll shoot/melee if you alert something
and their gunshots don't alert anything
finite plinth
it's just a failsafe for their trigger happiness
and don't rely them to stealth kill giants with you, they'll probably take too long to stagger and all die from the swing
finite plinth
they're ok
but you'd want human players or at the very least 1 human player
also give 1 of them bio, they have almost perfect pings
wanton bay
but you'd want human players or at the very least 1 human player
I think I'll try with bots first, I'm not good or confident enough to go into harder depths yet, be it with bots or people B)
spark wolf
what does hud pixel effects actually do in the settings
karmic frigate
what does hud pixel effects actually do in the settings
Look around the screen hud
spark wolf
is that an answer or an instruction for me to find out myself
desert falcon
The pixel effects should be the "double text" effect that all text has in game
desert falcon
doesnt apply in the settings tho
spark wolf
ok
regal fiber
Is there any option for text scaling in this game? I'm playing on my couch with a 42" tv about 10 feet away in my living room
It's itty bitty
karmic frigate
Is there any option for text scaling in this game? I'm playing on my couch with ...
As in like resolution
regal fiber
Not the resolution, but the font size of things. I was able to increase the size of hud elements in the settings but the font size on terminals is still miniscule. I think I may just have to deal with that though š¤·āāļø
solid spear
Is there any option for text scaling in this game? I'm playing on my couch with ...
At what res do you display your pc at on the tv?
1080p or 1440p or 4k
regal fiber
It's 1080p
solid spear
Oh
rigid sinew
Is there any option for text scaling in this game? I'm playing on my couch with ...
short answer, no
soft crater
iirc there is a way. but that involves ||modding the game||
covert apex
what does hud pixel effects actually do in the settings
makes a femboy spawn in ur games
warm yew
Best you can do for now is increase your hud scaling
soft crater
makes a femboy spawn in ur games
spawns a wild Kaneki Femboy to kill your enemies for you
finite plinth
how do i spawn a medium tiddy cosplayer gf
cosmic marten
remind me what discord server we are in
cosmic marten
right
finite plinth
medium is premium
craggy pier
Does my choice in āvoice chatā in matchmaking effect who I get matched with? Like, is it possible for some who selected āI donāt use voiceā to be matched with users who selected āeveryone must use voiceā?
gentle oracle
your decisions mean nothing using in-game matchmaking
lilac fulcrum
your decisions mean nothing using in-game matchmaking
That's actually not true
lilac fulcrum
Does my choice in āvoice chatā in matchmaking effect who I get matched with? Lik...
If you choose "everyone must use voice", you will only get matched with people who also choose "everyone must use voice" or "I use voice". If someone chooses "I don't use voice" or "nobody use voice" then they won't get matched because your preference is for people who can or do use voice.
gentle oracle
it was just hyperbole man
lilac fulcrum
Sorry, I couldn't tell. Didn't want someone to be mislead, which is easy to do and then causes player frustration.
gentle oracle
yeah sorry man it was just for the funnies
it was more just like that you can choose that option... but the people arent always going to adhere to the option they picked
like choosing "everyone must use voice" doesnt mean everyone is actually going to use voice
distant ice
Yeah no shit but it for the most part does mean you'll never find a match if you pick no voice
cosmic marten
If you choose "everyone must use voice", you will only get matched with people w...
š¤©
unkempt ridge
Yeah no shit but it for the most part does mean you'll never find a match if you...
Nobody use voice gang right here
ruby wasp
wait till they add a "Everyone use controllers" setting
turbid horizon
This is like the one game I play thatās worse on controller
Like literally impossible
rigid sinew
you deserve it for using a controller
turbid horizon
No I donāt
ruby wasp
Use the VR m-word
turbid horizon
Thats the point
turbid horizon
No
I willst not
Nah my point was that lots of games like Dark Souls, Subnautica, and other games I play get better when using controller, but GTFO gets worse
Like keyboard is just superior
rigid sinew
No I donāt
repent sinner
thou shall not touch the forbidden land of controllers
praise the Lord, amen
rigid sinew
in seriousness, I'm still searching for a particularly easy workaround to terminals with steam input
turbid horizon
GTFO too control heavy
turbid horizon
in seriousness, I'm still searching for a particularly easy workaround to termin...
Oh yeah u have tp use keyboard dont u
rigid sinew
yeah, but I'm sure steam lets you bind for a keyboard overlay to pop up
turbid horizon
Probly but Iām too lazy to figure that out
rigid sinew
Sponsor plug: use my controller config :troll:
#gtfo-chat message
ruby wasp
Nah my point was that lots of games like Dark Souls, Subnautica, and other games...
Mostly because it's a FPS
The thing is GTFO punishes you heavily if you do something bad
turbid horizon
Mostly because it's a FPS
Yeah thats probably why, this is the only FPS I play
ruby wasp
On other FPS like call of duty or battlefield you're not going to waste 2h of playtime because you used a controller an misinput
Keyboard + mouse provide more options tho
cosmic marten
Yeah thats probably why, this is the only FPS I play
i feel like GTFO is a First person horror experience with guns at some points
since a lot of it is mainly hammers
turbid horizon
Yeah but still involves FPS gameplay
cosmic marten
yea but as a summary of the game
vital sierra
aim assist is a thing on console
cosmic marten
y'all see me aim assisting the striker foos
cosmic marten
hurb
distant ice
since a lot of it is mainly hammers
Kek no
turbid horizon
Bruh
Yeah as someone who had never done a true reactor level until running D3 last night, it did feel like we had way too much ammo
cosmic marten
in older rundowns, there would be a 1-2 use ammo every zone with rare exceptions
in r6 it's 4-5 used in every zone with the majority of exceptions having more uses
cosmic marten
D3 gives you 10 uses of ammo in reactor and 6 uses in each code zone
how is that balance
turbid horizon
bruv
I mean tbf, this is supposed to be the new player friendly rundown I thonk
1.0 and all
distant ice
Can you not every time with the "hurr durr previous rundowns"
There was always more than enough ammo
ruby wasp
hurr durr previous rundowns
cosmic marten
Khepri said it best, "sniper is a gun with high damage with a trade off of low ammo capacity and efficiency, with a rundown of so many ammo packs. The only downside to the sniper is just removed"
ruby wasp
The better way to say it is "There are enough ammo to compensate for your mistakes"
Which wasn't true for most levels in the previous rundowns
cosmic marten
The better way to say it is "There are enough ammo to compensate for your mistak...
that's ok for like A1 and B1
distant ice
It was true
cosmic marten
but not D3
turbid horizon
Yeah to compensate for me whiffing four times with scattergun
ruby wasp
It was true in R5D1 when you triggered several charger/shadow scouts ?
It was true in R4C3 when you took too much time looking for the key & the turbine ?
ruby wasp
It was true in R4B2 when the error alarm spawned ahead of you to trigger the scouts ?
I can keep going for a same rundown tho
R4B1 when triggering the dark room
R4E1 when triggering literally anything on high
cosmic marten
i would like to clarify i do love gtfo and i only want it to get better, i don't want to shit on it for fun
ruby wasp
R4C2 if you triggered the mother or the 3 scout zone ( or if you took too much time for the surge alarms)
R4B3 if you triggered the mothers / took too much time for the uplinks
R5B2 if you spent too much time on overload
R5C1 if you triggered the main room
cosmic marten
sounds like ur just naming difficult bits in all the levels
ruby wasp
I'm mostly naming the errors that i witnessed the most
turbid horizon
I mean funky aināt wrong
finite plinth
just hammer everything
ruby wasp
You can literally trigger everything on every level on R6
cosmic marten
but the difference between r4-5 and 6
ruby wasp
and you'll still have enough ammo
craggy pier
R4C2 if you triggered the mother or the 3 scout zone ( or if you took too much t...
If it's the part I'm thinking about was way more than 3?
distant ice
Can't say i remember all of those and i especially haven't been paying attention for the last 3 rundowns but I don't remember any situation where i ran out of ammo
distant ice
Even if i did fuck up
ruby wasp
lmao
craggy pier
Wasn't it like 6 in the whole zone with a max of 4 per room (2 room zone)
turbid horizon
With this being the first code retrieval reactor for newbieās theyāre bound to get extra waves
ruby wasp
When it's minor fuck up it's fine
finite plinth
you can trigger tank room 4 times and still have like 10 use ammo to spare
ruby wasp
When it's a major one it's legit cursed
distant ice
Did you see how devs play the game
distant ice
With their intended gameplay, intended skill levels of players for tiers, and metas brushed aside
It's simply logical that there's always more than enough ammo
cosmic marten
i played D1 with my friends who went loud every room
turbid horizon
Bruh
cosmic marten
including the cocoon rooms
finite plinth
and r5d1 spawns like 7 or 8 chargers per scout wave, so
ruby wasp
There's a difference between enough ammo and having a freaking armory-tier amount of ammo
cosmic marten
and we had too much ammo after the entire level until the class 6 alarm
turbid horizon
Only successes Iāve had on D1 were avoiding cocoon triggers
distant ice
There's a difference between enough ammo and having a freaking armory-tier amoun...
O rly
ruby wasp
š³
ruby wasp
There should be enough ammo to compensate for your mistakes
cosmic marten
no there shouldn't
distant ice
It doesn't matter if you didn't spend 1 or 100
cosmic marten
gtfo is supposed to be a hard game
ruby wasp
Not to compensate for your complete lack of stealth gameplay
turbid horizon
Not to compensate for your complete lack of stealth gameplay
YES
cosmic marten
not a "try this quietly but it's ok if you don't"
distant ice
I mean it depends on tier
ruby wasp
It depends indeed
cosmic marten
I mean it depends on tier
true
finite plinth
there's always 20 to 30% extra ammo than you need in an average run
cosmic marten
A levels yes you should have a lot
ruby wasp
For campaign levels i don't care about what they do since they're supposed to be introduction to each tier
finite plinth
and those 20 to 30% are to compensate for any mistakes
distant ice
A-c tier more like
ruby wasp
But C3PE's amount of ammo is just dumb
distant ice
D debatable
ruby wasp
D3PE as well
distant ice
Actually fk it I'm too lazy to argue
turbid horizon
I mean, only 1 level had shadows
cosmic marten
C and below you should have enough if you silent the parts that can and you should have too little if you loud half or more the silent bits
turbid horizon
Actually fk it I'm too lazy to argue
Relatable
ruby wasp
Actually fk it I'm too lazy to argue
- literally anyone whenever a GTFO argument appears
š³
We repeat the same arguments like monkeys even though we know it ain't gonna change shit š³
ruby wasp
I remember clearing D2 and wondering where tf shadows were
turbid horizon
Yeah funky business
cosmic marten
also i think this rundown is the wrong way up
turbid horizon
Oh what, the D4
cosmic marten
too many lower tiers and not enough higher tiers
craggy pier
too many lower tiers and not enough higher tiers
B1 feels super easy to be a B tier tbh
cosmic marten
how tf does that make sense
tanks on 4 levels
turbid horizon
They did say they were re-tiering this rundown
craggy pier
Especially if you compare it to R5's and its big charger error alarm, which was easy if you knew where the terminals where beforehand
cosmic marten
more scouts (including variants) than strikers
finite plinth
5*
cosmic marten
D2 mother zones moment
ruby wasp
wdym 5 š³
turbid horizon
Bruh ok the scout hellās were pretty kewl
finite plinth
tanks
finite plinth
tanks on 4 levels
.
ruby wasp
C3 & each D
turbid horizon
Tanks on C3 and all D
cosmic marten
you know you've done something wrong when there are more levels with bosses than variants of little enemies
cosmic marten
C3 would be so much more fun if when you did extreme it swapped strikers for chargers
ruby wasp
i hate anything with infection
finite plinth
bosses
finite plinth
more like minor inconveniences
finite plinth
nice spam
craggy pier
My first encounter with a mother was her getting destroyed by burst cannons on R4B1 extreme
Surely didnt look like a boss tbh
turbid horizon
Also the shadow level doesnāt even start out with shadows
Before you hit the Overload or the Class VI, the main feature of the level is the cocoons
Which I just realized were only in two levels this rundown
finite plinth
you want more?
turbid horizon
Kinda
finite plinth
where they just spam it on every single level in pre nerf r5
craggy pier
Pre nerf R5A1 high was nearly all cocoons iirc
finite plinth
except b2
finite plinth
i rather see better placements of cocoons where there's genuine consequences if you alert a room with respawned sleepers
which both d1 and d3 did that
over meaningless spots
turbid horizon
Meaningless to you maybe
craggy pier
I assume the idea was to make you feel less safe in areas you already cleared
turbid horizon
To newer players that D3 room is a death sentence
finite plinth
the idea is to slow you down and counter kiting
and act as a pseudo forward extraction point
craggy pier
yes, less safe implies that too
finite plinth
on some levels such as r5c1
craggy pier
I just dont like backtracking
finite plinth
too bad
craggy pier
And would rather proceed forward to a new area
Take R5A1's backtracking
Maybe it was because of floodways or whatever it's called
But that always felt way too long
finite plinth
because floodways tiles are gigantic
rigid sinew
it is beeeeg
finite plinth
you're not wrong at all
turbid horizon
I love floodways too
finite plinth
same but more unique tiles thanks
turbid horizon
too much green
D:
craggy pier
I hate it
finite plinth
every expedition feels unironically the same
craggy pier
I prefer Storage, Labs...
turbid horizon
i like itā¦
finite plinth
can't wait for floodways e1
craggy pier
So Hackett's swimmer mask has sense
turbid horizon
YEAH
finite plinth
70% of the time are just traversing omegalul
finite plinth
bring back r2e1's unique storage tile
turbid horizon
bring back r2e1's unique storage tile
Which one?
Iām very new
The Neonate tile?
strange jolt
is there a particular reason why people keep on crouch sliding?
finite plinth
not anymore
turbid horizon
Oh lol
finite plinth
but you slightly save stamina
turbid horizon
Sliiide to the left
feral anvil
Stamina slide
finite plinth
maybe one day 10cc will fix the evasion mechanic
mossy aurora
tfw new voice lines are more important than fixing sniper melee and hybrids shooting from portals
turbid horizon
tfw new voice lines are more important than fixing sniper melee and hybrids shoo...
Hybrid portal what?
mossy aurora
u ever had where a hybrid shoots before its model gets to the spot the projectiles come from?
mossy aurora
lucky you
turbid horizon
Bc we ran C2 secondary so many times
Like 4 seperate nights
No hybrid funkiness
mossy aurora
its especially noticeable with hybrids climbing up ladders like on d3
turbid horizon
we had that with mom
Where she spawned babies on top of us from the other side of a wall
But that was the one time we had my friend with shitty internet hosting
distant ice
maybe one day 10cc will fix the evasion mechanic
It's a 5 minute fix
They don't do those
finite plinth
understable
soft crater
its especially noticeable with hybrids climbing up ladders like on d3
you can notice this on B2 first blood door
sometimes they don't climb up the ladder but can still shoot from down below
turbid horizon
hey, does hel gun OHKO scouts if it headshots them from the front? wiki says its a 3x damage spot, and that hel does 16.25 normally, so that should be more than enough to kill a scout (42 hp). Reason I'm asking is bc my friend said it didn't one shot last night
turbid horizon
ok so something's off with the wiki
floral acorn
hel rifle used to ohko from any direction, even multiples if they lined up š
finite plinth
hel gun has precision multiplier of 0.8something iirc
floral acorn
sync shots are also fun, 1x helgun (head), 1x any weapon anywhere 3 2 1 boomboom
finite plinth
which made me remember the advantage of crouching scouts
floral acorn
(maybe not smg š )
turbid horizon
i mean
finite plinth
you can easily hit a crouching head then body as host
turbid horizon
now i just wanna melee them
turbid horizon
oh bc funny penetrate dmg?
rapid dock
pseudo coyote
is there a way to view your ping in game ?
rigid sinew
nope
pseudo coyote
welp
waxen jetty
must map out where your friends are playing from
finite plinth
there was a way
rigid sinew
I mean, you can probably trace the IP of the host and ping it
inland wedge
Uh, dumb question; is there anyway to notice the newibe? Just few minutes ago, some player just roamed all over just to attract everything ran back to us...
Level, or anything?
viscid wolf
not really
if you're playing matchmaking I'd suggest you use the lfgs here instead
matchmaking is a mess
inland wedge
not really
Ah, thank you so much.
cosmic marten
man I'm gonna miss hel gun in r7
#BringBackBurstCannon
soft crater
#bringbackCosmeticHammers
fleet berry
-- I am new here so I apologize if this has been answered somewhere, I searched but didn't find anything so far. -- Do we know if the Dev's plan to implement saved game states that persist between play sessions? My group of 4 only get a few hours a week and we are not fast. It would feel great if we could get halfway through a level and then pick it up the next week again. Thanks in advance for the info! š
dawn furnace
@fleet berry i dont believe there is there hasnt been anything on that. But after you complete like say B1 itll stay completed. But as far as saving mid rundown there is nothing on it yet
fleet berry
@dawn furnace Yeah, we've been super appreciative of the like save points in the levels but some of the levels we go so slow that we get like 3/4 of the way through a level but we need to go to sleep cuz we got work in the morning.
dawn furnace
Yeah understandable sime of the levels can be very long. If youd like you can use the #gtfo-game-suggestions to promt the idea to the devs. The way the game is designed tho itd be nearly impossible because youd possibly be able to drag anyone into say R4 whos never played before which would be level jumping.
fleet berry
Thanks I think I will do that!
thorny creek
There's also ways to improve your general pacing when going through a level, especially when stealthing. We can always offer tips and advice, so ask away if you need any! 
rigid sinew
Yeah understandable sime of the levels can be very long. If youd like you can us...
A rundown is a set of levels
And at this point I guess what would be more to worry about anything checkpoint related would be bugs lol
dawn furnace
@rigid sinew ohhhhhh my bad
fleet berry
lol, we found a fun one the other night with one of the big fans. If you are holding it and then it saves, it duplicates the fan, but you can't put it down and only one works at a time o.O
rigid sinew
I do wonder, which level and how long are you guys taking? @fleet berry
fleet berry
We finished uh D1 the other week, it took us 6 hours total. the first 3 or so were getting far enough to realize we had done too poorly to make it to the end with the checkpoints we had.
but we almost never get 6 hours
maybe twice a year.
Normally we get like 3 or so hours a week
rigid sinew
6 hours?
fleet berry
We have gotten significantly faster now that two of us run knives.
rigid sinew
bloody hell
fleet berry
Yeah... we are not fast.