#gtfo-related-questions
karmic frigate
crystal basalt
My guess is the .6 denotes the current rundown
minor fractal
Probably
karmic frigate
Yeah probsbly
minor fractal
It was incrementing up from .1 a while ago, but it's stopped and also no announcement, so seems not to mean anything.
karmic frigate
Warden online means smt interesting boutta happen
earnest pulsar
what is considered medium range for a weapon? Over 10 meters?
karmic frigate
Yeah
minor fractal
what is considered medium range for a weapon? Over 10 meters?
10-25 w/out losing breakpoints I'd say.
Maybe 30m, but past that is definitely pretty far.
earnest pulsar
random fact: AR flashlight is the perfect measuring tool for stealth
minor fractal
That's only 15m tbh.
karmic frigate
Ik
crystal basalt
random fact: AR flashlight is the perfect measuring tool for stealth
How far is it?
karmic frigate
But it’s a good measurement unit for in game
crystal basalt
18m?
earnest pulsar
10-25 w/out losing breakpoints I'd say.
what's a breakpoint? is it just damage fall off
karmic frigate
15m if i remember
distant ice
That's only 15m tbh.
Perfectly mid range and still further than most things you'll shoot
minor fractal
what's a breakpoint? is it just damage fall off
A breakpoint is any damage value which separates the amount of shots you need to kill something.
crystal basalt
Isn't enemy movement detection range 18m?
minor fractal
So, if I have a 30 health enemy, 10 damage is the breakpoint I need to hit for a 3-shot.
minor fractal
It's like 13m for long range alert, which is the important range.
topaz anvil
+/- 125% isn't that bad
distant ice
Movement hearing range is pretty important
minor fractal
For flashlights specifically since you want to sync everything in that distance.*
distant ice
Even more so now with no bhop
earnest pulsar
I mean AR flash light is perfect because if it doesn't make a sleeper start glowing, you can kill the sleeper in front of you even if the far one is glowing
unkempt ridge
I mean AR flash light is perfect because if it doesn't make a sleeper start glow...
I actually never thought of that
earnest pulsar
I learned it from several solo runs during R5
fathom tinsel
I just got the game, anyone have any tips for a beginner?
minor fractal
I just got the game, anyone have any tips for a beginner?
Once you have a handle on things, I'd practice solo (no bots, preferably).
It's the best way to get the hang of stealth. Syncing enemies, getting double kills, generally not pissing things off, etc.
Not that much, either, just every now and then to try out things and develop good habits.
I say solo just because it means no latency, all of the enemies are for you and nobody else, and if anything goes wrong you can know for certain it was because of something you did (and can control for).
waxen wind
So me and my bf have gotten into the game recently. And while we both seem to have gotten a grasp on how to handle killing basic infected well. And know how to prepare for most events we’re facing already.
However what we are having trouble with is stealth killing heavies and scouts. Mainly scouts. As every time a precision hit with a melee is done it alerts them, so I tried using a sniper on their head with no feelers out, and all small enemies clear, still alerts. And am wondering how I would go about killing them, if not that
maiden cypress
you can snipe scouts with their feelers out!
if you shoot them closer to the neck it might count as a body hit cause wonky hitboxes
maiden cypress
for melee if you're taking knife or bat you need to melee them on the head from behind
waxen wind
Oh, being behind matters as well, not just headshots, noted.
And thank you very much, appreciate your help! We’re both enjoying the game lots and looking forward to playing it more
fierce oracle
Oh, being behind matters as well, not just headshots, noted.
yeah, being behind an enemy and hitting them in the back lets you do double damage
maiden cypress
i dont know specifics but is it equal to front headshot damage? 👀
fierce oracle
head shot is normally higher than back shots
waxen wind
On the topic, what’s the headshot mult of the spear and knife compared to the bat and hammer?
fierce oracle
1.3x on spear 1.5x on knife
it scales up as you charge, meaning a half charge doesn't have the full damage bonus
waxen wind
Interesting. Okay then, noted
warm yew
Bat and Hammer has 1.0x precision damage iirc, but they do have better stagger
If you're having trouble killing scouts, start off doing so with the spear first
Then the knife with a headshot from behind
cosmic marten
knife is best melee
TRK fight me
ur lame hammer takes a few years to charge especially since stamina reduction
i'll be stabbing everyone and every thing
finite plinth
knife users running away from gigachad giants
rigid sinew
bat-eman gang 😎
cosmic marten
i enjoy bat
brain dead play style is fun
and one tapping locks is sexy
but im british so by her majesty's grace i must use the knife
rigid sinew
I can't remember, but does a full charge bat hit to body kills them?
cosmic marten
who
rigid sinew
'cause I always have a bad tendency of double tapping enemies, but sometimes it not work and it one shots 😔
cosmic marten
wa
fierce oracle
I’ll see if I can find it
cosmic marten
fierce oracle
bronze raven
is there missions with Mother in R6?
rigid sinew
C2 and D2 are the only ones I can recall
cosmic marten
D4 first blood door
tardy ingot
and dark zone datacube
soft crater
bat "should" one tap shooter in occi
lol this funny hearing people say that when really it's just not all the conditions to get a one shot occi aren't in place
cosmic marten
wdym
like the temperature and pressure of the room can be off so it does less damage?
soft crater
in my own testing bat / hammer consistently one tap occi on shooters
meaning people who said damage bug were doing smth wrong
cosmic marten
for me it works on the sitty ones
the standy fellows never tal
tap
i've tried many angles
waxen wind
Does having bots increase enemy spawns?
soft crater
No
waxen wind
Okay
midnight gazelle
Enemy spawns are the same no matter how many players
4 players has same amount of enemy spawns as 1 player with 3 bots and the same with only 1’player
midnight gazelle
Going solo means no teammates stealing my kills
:)
soft crater
I'm curious if they ever plan to implement a kill counter kind of results screen
worthy siren
thatd be amazing
finite plinth
player stealing all the ammo packs, not doing scans and intentionally alerting scouts to inflate kill count would indeed be amazing
desert falcon
"LFG players must provide screenshot of at least 1k kills in R7E2" 🙂
worthy siren
lol
bronze raven
does sniper sentry one shot big strikers
or is beinging a konig still more effective
topaz anvil
Sniper Sentry does one shot I think idk
minor fractal
does sniper sentry one shot big strikers
No, it does not one-shot any titans.
minor fractal
It can 2 shot shooter titans but must 3 shot striker titans.
bronze raven
oh sniper turret one shots scouts?
grizzled widget
yes
soft kiln
yes
grizzled widget
just make sure ONLY THE SCOUT is in it's target reticle
soft kiln
still sad that its been nerfed this rundown
grizzled widget
what has been
soft kiln
sentry back dmg
grizzled widget
not nerfed, removed.
minor fractal
I mean, that is a nerf.
grizzled widget
shotgun sentry fans, a sad day indeed.
soft kiln
its a nerf then
minor fractal
Shotgun sentry is garbage, back damage or no.
soft kiln
strong because of glitch
minor fractal
Yes, because it literally had 4x damage.
grizzled widget
burst sentry 0/10 back then
soft kiln
was KING of r1 and r2
and start of r3
minor fractal
Burst sentry was actually just better if you were solo because of it.
grizzled widget
Burst sentry was actually just better if you were solo because of it.
LIES
i will take my shotgun sentry to my grave
it is the best!
rigid sinew
next thing you are gonna say is burst cannon is balanced
bronze raven
so uhh is medusa + burst combo still good?
grizzled widget
next thing you are gonna say is burst cannon is balanced
burst cannon is broken, just as much as old scattergun was. horrid for the game
soft kiln
scattergun stagger mom is funny moment
minor fractal
Tbh, burst cannon might have been balanced. I don't think it was actually that strong compared to power-creeped sniper and even arguably nerfed scattergun.
grizzled widget
shotgun turret pogggggggggggggggggggggg
minor fractal
Burst cancel is strong and all, but holy shit does it take a while to kill things that way.
tardy ingot
nerfed scatter gun vs burst cannon. Aside from mom killing burst is miles ahead LOL
grizzled widget
shotgun turret + arbalist machinegun = heaven
soft kiln
R1 machine gun gamer
minor fractal
nerfed scatter gun vs burst cannon. Aside from mom killing burst is miles ahead ...
Doesn't even one-burst titans.
And you only get 4 bursts per ammo use iirc vs. 5 scatter shots.
grizzled widget
R1 machine gun gamer
you have no idea. shotgun sentry, assualt rifle, machinegun
tardy ingot
doesnt need to since you have more bullets per mag + burst cancel
minor fractal
Again, burst cancel overrated.
Burst damage > sustained damage in many situations.
tardy ingot
and yet burst cannon has insane burst, with more burst potential + can do sustained fire
hmm
distant ice
Talking like the people that'd pull that shit for kill count are completely fine otherwise
cosmic marten
Burst damage > sustained damage in many situations.
both burst variants this rundown are better than the full autos in most situations including sustained
minor fractal
It has burst into titans, it doesn't really have it into smalls unless you are specifically not burst cancelling.
tardy ingot
also being able to kill a big charger from spawn to extraction vs from its armpit
grizzled widget
r1c1, the ENTIRE level was just one reaaaaally long hallway with extraction at one end, and the reactor at the other. a 30 minute wave shooter. like r6c3, but no running. just bunker down and blast.
was AMAZING
minor fractal
both burst variants this rundown are better than the full autos in most situatio...
Burst damage, not fire.
Damage you do quickly vs. doing more damage over a sustained period.
cosmic marten
Burst *damage*, not fire.
damage
distant ice
both burst variants this rundown are better than the full autos in most situatio...
What
minor fractal
Also, definitely not carbine.
cosmic marten
ye
minor fractal
Carbine is pretty bad.
minor fractal
1.0 precision doesn't let it 2-burst, which on its own makes carbine dogshit.
cosmic marten
can essentially be full auto if you have parkinson's
distant ice
If you prioritize stats you should just use semis
minor fractal
SMG is easily better than carbine despite slower RoF because you don't waste large amounts of ammo per enemy.
cosmic marten
If you prioritize stats you should just use semis
but the stats represent what the gun does in the game
distant ice
But that takes out the human factor
finite plinth
but can you achieve it
distant ice
Practicality isn't displayed in numbers
distant ice
And I don't see how that counters the semi statement
soft kiln
like hel revolver can kill 100 sleepers at max efficiency
or machine pistol at max efficiency
cosmic marten
Carbine:
better flashlight
better precision multipler
same reload
same damage
minor fractal
Carbine:
better flashlight
better precision multipler
same reload
same damage
Do you not understand how the carbine works as a weapon?
You have to 3-burst to kill a striker
cosmic marten
smg you need 8-10 shots
finite plinth
maybe he's just that good
minor fractal
Therefore, SMG kills more enemies per magazine.
minor fractal
smg you need 8-10 shots
Carbine kills in 12 shots ALWAYS
soft kiln
carbine need to cancel shots to have better efficiency
minor fractal
16 if you miss
finite plinth
he can consistently kill 1 per 3 burst
soft kiln
carbine need to cancel shots to have better efficiency
which I could just play other weapon
distant ice
I don't know why we're even focusing on smg in particular, smg isn't good just in general
cosmic marten
tbh
minor fractal
Then you actually just don't know what you're talking about, sorry.
cosmic marten
just take DMR
distant ice
Picking an ass auto to prove burst superiority lmao
cosmic marten
it's so much better than both
grizzled widget
You can't force someone to take a gun they don't want
minor fractal
Burst rifle is easily better than carbine specifically because 2-burst is possible.
finite plinth
actually inhuman conversation
grizzled widget
Burst rifle is easily better than carbine specifically because 2-burst is possib...
Halo 2 br pog
cosmic marten
dmr is the best without competition
minor fractal
HEL Revo competes.
grizzled widget
dmr is the best without competition
You see, this mindset is the problem
cosmic marten
slightly
minor fractal
Most of the semi-autos compete, tbh.
finite plinth
r3 rifle :^
cosmic marten
pistol is stagger factory
grizzled widget
I know some people that run sawed off exclusively
cosmic marten
You see, this mindset is the problem
how, literally leaves strikers on less than 1 hp, one taps shooters
minor fractal
Actually, BR probably competes with the semi-autos, it's pretty effective.
grizzled widget
Having a mindset of a gun being just purely better doesn't do anybody any good except yourself
spark wolf
BURST CANNON
minor fractal
It's only really autos that lack rn (and carbine).
cosmic marten
revolver is a slightly worst dmr with over pen which is good
leaves strikers on like 3 hp
grizzled widget
Some people struggle with semis
cosmic marten
so just hammer bonk
grizzled widget
Just because YOU do better with it doesn't make it better for everyone
cosmic marten
semis so easy to use
grizzled widget
so just hammer bonk
Not everyone is good at melee
Just flat trolling at this point.
grizzled widget
Bout to tell an a1 newbie to knife everything and not waste ammo lmao
spark wolf
burst cannon was powerful because it was like the scattergun where it still has use against smalls
except way better than scattergun
without burst cancel
cosmic marten
you don't need hinoki level sprint-stagger-runbehind-helspam-win tactics
just
headshot
bonk
or shoot again if there are a lot
grizzled widget
This shouldn't need to be stated. You CAN NOT TELL SOMEONE HOW TO PLAY THEIR GAME
finite plinth
no one did
cosmic marten
I argued SMG is better than carbine
🧢
grizzled widget
If they want to use autos, or pistols, or shotguns, they can. Just because you do better with dmr doesn't mean everyone can
cosmic marten
no one did
yes but i need to praise it for its sexiness
cosmic marten
If they want to use autos, or pistols, or shotguns, they can. Just because you d...
i never said you have to use the dmr
grizzled widget
Some people physically cannot, "get good" or not. People with problems with their wrists
grizzled widget
i never said you have to use the dmr
No, but saying it's objectively better is the problem
It makes it seem as though people have to use it to be meta
minor fractal
No, but saying it's objectively better is the problem
It is, though, it has the highest skill cap in the game.
minor fractal
Semi-autos have generally been pretty meta since R4.
spark wolf
hel gun is objectively better 
grizzled widget
It is, though, it has the highest skill cap in the game.
Some people, me included, can never reach that.
cosmic marten
but if you want to win the easiest
minor fractal
Some people, me included, can never reach that.
Okay?
cosmic marten
i think you should you blah blah blah
minor fractal
It is still true that DMR has the highest skill cap in the game.
warm yew
Consider
minor fractal
It has the best performance at optimal play.
warm yew
Sawed-off
finite plinth
playing the game
grizzled widget
It has the best performance at optimal play.
Not everyone can be at optimal play.
minor fractal
Not everyone can be at optimal play.
You're arguing against nothing.
Agree and move on.
cosmic marten
omg
finite plinth
let's agree to disagree
distant ice
It is, though, it has the highest skill cap in the game.
dmr highest skill cap?
clown statement
cosmic marten
literally no one in this chat has ever said "we are telling you how to play, or this is a stupid way to play use dmr"
distant ice
dmr is among the easiest weapons to have max efficiency with
cosmic marten
dmr is among the easiest weapons to have max efficiency with
exactly
minor fractal
You are arguing the proposition "the highest skill cap weapon is not necessarily the best weapon to use for all people"
I am arguing "DMR has the highest skill cap of any weapon in the game."
These are compatible.
soft kiln
Machine pistol gamer
finite plinth
hel revolver is highest skill cap, because you can't kill 100 sleepers consistently
:^)
grizzled widget
dmr is among the easiest weapons to have max efficiency with
Case specific, but for the average player, yes I suppose so.
bronze raven
is there a list of when weps were added/removed in rotation
distant ice
Case specific, but for the average player, yes I suppose so.
i'd like you to case-specific me carbine 100% theoretical efficiency
without aimbot
cosmic marten
look at gtfo wiki page
cosmic marten
is there a list of when weps were added/removed in rotation
has everything
grizzled widget
What am I case specificing?
bronze raven
the combat shotgun says when it was added but not when it was removed
cosmic marten
Dmr is for people who enjoy semis
warm yew
Because its not removed, just disabled
cosmic marten
or sweats
warm yew
Got em
finite plinth
what
soft kiln
or go pistol
its still good
just not as good as before
desert falcon
cs was removed r5
R6
finite plinth
r6 tho
cosmic marten
bring back hel rifle tho
finite plinth
i remember meme killing charger scouts with combat
cosmic marten
😢
distant ice
o that's right i just never used it since R4 cuz the fkn head bug
cosmic marten
hel rifle sounds like so much fun
grizzled widget
i'd like you to case-specific me carbine 100% theoretical efficiency
I'm assuming you mean why someone would take the smg over the carbine, but I'd say because some people struggle to aim with hand-eye coordination. So not needing to be as accurate with bursts would give them an advantage, since more bullets would hit.
distant ice
no i didn't mean anything close to that
cosmic marten
carbine > smg
soft crater
soft crater
Y'all dummy. Sawed off > all other Main weapons
cosmic marten
who cares which stinks more
fax
cosmic marten
Y'all dummy. Sawed off > all other Main weapons
machine pistol > sawed off > other mains
soft kiln
you all wrong bullpup is the best with its reload speed
soft crater
machine pistol > sawed off > other mains
Machine pistol is technically a better SMG iirc stat wise at least
cosmic marten
machine pistol would be so much fun if it was hel
it would still be terrible
but bruh imagine that
cosmic marten
how do they differ?
warm yew
Stagger or DPS
soft crater
Auto pistol less dmg but stagger
warm yew
Pick
soft kiln
a walking auto sentry
soft crater
cosmic marten
har is the most fun special
tardy ingot
well it and shotgun
cosmic marten
so satisfying
tardy ingot
hel gun is my lover 
soft crater
har is the most fun special
Personally choke for me
cosmic marten
yea
soft kiln
R4 HAR recoil gaming
tardy ingot
Imagine if choke mod and machine pp swapped ammo and mag size
cosmic marten
choke mod + har + revolver
tardy ingot
since they have same fire rate
cosmic marten
all B tier fun as hell guns
minor fractal
Revo is pretty viable? It's just had to use.
soft crater
Ye
cosmic marten
small mag size with bad reload
soft crater
That recoil jump from rapid fire be beeg
minor fractal
It mainly lacks burst wave clear, but you can compensate that by just being really good.
cosmic marten
hel gun is just a better version
minor fractal
HEL gun gets way less ammo
soft crater
Revo has a fast reload tho
cosmic marten
but R6 has so much ammo
cosmic marten
Revo has a fast reload tho
oh wait yea sorry
minor fractal
Sure, but that doesn't really change the effectiveness of the weapon.
cosmic marten
hel has good reload cancel tho
like for sweats
hel gun
but revolver is just as fun as hel gun
minor fractal
If anything, this implies you can use HEL gun over revo (outside of situations where pierce is strongest) despite HEL gun being a worse gun.
HEL Gun just makes better use of infinite ammo.
cosmic marten
how many pens can the hel gun do?
soft crater
me seeing speed runners/solos run hel gun
minor fractal
3 I think.
soft crater
Hmm....
cosmic marten
hel rifle?
minor fractal
I think they're both 3, despite having different stats.
soft crater
Isnt it 2?
finite plinth
that's hel rev
soft kiln
I just remember hel overall is sort of glitched on the penetrate count
finite plinth
dude trust me
cosmic marten
Still most used primary ironically
someone say scattergun?
cosmic marten
scattergun is the most fun shitpost gun
soft kiln
stagger mom haha
soft crater
Next to burst cannon
cosmic marten
i love how the devs got so fed up with designing it
instead of an interesting sight
it's just a stick
cosmic marten
why does scattergun have a mediocre flashlight??????
it's a shortest range gun in the game
it's such a wreck i love it
soft crater
why does scattergun have a mediocre flashlight??????
Same with other short range guns having long range ones
Meanwhile SMG with the dummy short range yellow one
cosmic marten
i tried doing A1 solo with smg and shotty
soft crater
Another reason I rather use machine pistol over smg
distant ice
last rundown it was in it had 8 pens
5 is max
And it's fucky
Most often you'll get either 3 or 4 max regardless
soft crater
the hammer flashlight is longer range than both of those
Ironically there is that flashlight section of the wiki
spark wolf
i like how they fix the floating sights for hel revo
soft crater
Its gives you the ranges
spark wolf
by just removing them when you're not aiming
it gives a good look into how they fix things around here
distant ice
Hey as long as it works
distant ice
Not like you need the sights then
grizzled widget
Is there a setting to turn off the zoom when you scope in?
cosmic marten
why is the sniper flashlight longer range than LRF
cosmic marten
sniper can see further
distant ice
That's just you
soft crater
Sniper and burst rifle have extended range flash lights
But these are also quite narrow
cosmic marten
assault or burst rifle?
soft crater
I typed burst rifle did I not?
spark wolf
long range flashlight still nice for spitters and for when you're in dark zone with a loadout that only has shitty flashlights
cosmic marten
assault rifle feels so whimpy
soft crater
Extended range ones go to like 20m
cosmic marten
like the sound sounds so sad and the look of it in game looks dumb
soft crater
Whereas LRF goes to 25m and its wide
soft crater
like the sound sounds so sad and the look of it in game looks dumb
Still better than SMG/Shotgun flashlights
Also revo
soft crater
As a gun I prefer AR
Burst rifle is also one of the few guns that only get 17% per ammo pack
cosmic marten
the only automatic weapons that feel good to use are the Har and machine gun
soft crater
Well of course using HAR
cosmic marten
the others sound and look stupid
soft crater
It makes the normal ar feel bad
But normal AR is really the most balanced main weapon imo
rigid sinew
the only automatic weapons that feel good to use are the Har and machine gun
cap
only bullpup
and smg
cosmic marten
like a good all rounder
grizzled widget
Honestly the bullpup shoots way too fast for me to control.
soft crater
the others sound and look stupid
Imo that's many of the weapons in first person view
cosmic marten
bullpup has the coolest sight in the game
finite plinth
frankenstein moment
grizzled widget
I know it's supposed to be a laser, but I just end up dumping half a mag into a wall when trying to use it
soft crater
Honestly the bullpup shoots way too fast for me to control.
Same. Stat wise I love it but that reload and RoF I just dont want it
cosmic marten
and a really cool model
rigid sinew
I know it's supposed to be a laser, but I just end up dumping half a mag into a ...
skissue
cosmic marten
but it sounds like a wet fart
cosmic marten
bullpup sounds so dumb
rigid sinew
double skissue
wise thicket
Yes
rigid sinew
bluepoop AR :troll:
wise thicket
I like the Smg and ar models
cosmic marten
smg looks really good
wise thicket
Their clean looking
rigid sinew
i literally only play with bullpup and choke
wise thicket
SMG and heavy ar for me
soft crater
SMG was cool to me until I realized just how short the barrel is
spark wolf
bullpup severely suffer from client stuff
grizzled widget
The smg is pretty good for hipfire though I generally find the ar to be a little bit better
spark wolf
like any high fire rate weapon
cosmic marten
hel revo and har
spark wolf
dead bodies eat bullets as client
cosmic marten
my favourite loadout
rigid sinew
don't care
BULLPUP ALL THE WAY!
spark wolf
and a "kill" isn't visible immediately for clients
wise thicket
don't care
BULLPUP ALL THE WAY!
Skill issue
soft crater
The smg is pretty good for hipfire though I generally find the ar to be a little...
SMG has a better hip fire but yeah if you fire in bursts/tap fire. The AR hipfire works
rigid sinew
spark wolf
so to do things efficiently you have to KNOW when they should be dead
soft crater
Dmr virgins
I prefer the Mini DMR
rigid sinew
auto pistol users
soft crater
Hel Revo
cosmic marten
pistols absolutely the best
rigid sinew
imagine not using the auto pistol, machine gun and auto sentry smh
soft crater
imagine not using the auto pistol, machine gun and auto sentry smh
Make machine pistol a Special and that loudout is perfect
grizzled widget
Auto sentry really should do more damage. It's a bit weak
soft crater
Auto /machine pistol / auto sentry
cosmic marten
what is the best looking melee. all rundowns
wise thicket
Hammer
soft crater
Maul
soft kiln
mallet
grizzled widget
cosmic marten
Auto sentry really should do more damage. It's a bit weak
it's supposed to stagger not DPS
grizzled widget
Maulmen FTW
cosmic marten
I think cavel or maul
rigid sinew
Auto sentry really should do more damage. It's a bit weak
imo it should just have pierce with range
that would make it pogger
second cfoam
cosmic marten
cavel looks so cool
finite plinth
increase the dmg so it can one shot babies
soft kiln
Mallet can achieve maximum bonk
finite plinth
auto sentry to abort babies
spark wolf
and make it prioritize smalls
finite plinth
:^)
grizzled widget
You mean gavel?
spark wolf
so it doesn't become useless as soon as a giant gets infront
soft crater
Without back dmg auto sentry lost my interest tbh
cosmic marten
You mean gavel?
shhshshshshshhhhhhhh
spark wolf
which is an rng chance on nearly every alarm
rigid sinew
increase the dmg so it can one shot babies
it's not really made to kill, but eh babies are supposed to be weak as fuck
cosmic marten
C-foam butthole tool
soft crater
Babies have the same hp as a Physical lock iirc
grizzled widget
shhshshshshshhhhhhhh
If you want to meme-fy it, submit an emoticon
Like the maulmen
soft crater
Different multiplier ofc
cosmic marten
place it on a wall and it slowly shits out c-foam
finite plinth
i propose lower rof and target switching every 2nd shot so it staggers more
but that would make auto sentry viable so can't
grizzled widget
And our post-mate Darth maul
rigid sinew
🅱️-Foam
grizzled widget
I JUST GOT A FANTASTIC IDEA
soft crater
i propose lower rof and target switching every 2nd shot so it staggers more
When your teammate put it in a weird spot and all the bullets hit the hitbox of the broken door
soft crater
Skissue
finite plinth
also pierce
soft crater
soft crater
So what if
rigid sinew
shush
soft crater
We just made it auto but
soft kiln
auto sentry main usage: slow down the wave (1 sleeper)
finite plinth
imagine enemy collision abusing but with auto sentry
soft kiln
R4C2 first blood door has the best enemy collision moment
spark wolf
R4E1
soft crater
spark wolf
where they can't hit the door
because they keep pushing eachother out of range
ava moment
soft kiln
seeing 4 hybrids getting push up the stair in R4C2 first blood door is so funny
spark wolf
it's definitely not something they need to fix 🙋♀️
rigid sinew
spark wolf
it sure would be funny if someone like that was a bug hunter, aha..
rigid sinew
become
finite plinth
sorry
but you must be under 10 hours to become one
you cannot be experienced and understand basic mechanics of the game
soft crater
Isnt it 100
Supposed to be the average hours or so
Not some Chad with 1000+ hours
finite plinth
i too trust in the bug hunter's ability for game balancing
leading to incredible creations such as scattergun
soft crater
I wish my teammates actually hit things
The floors and walls have feelings too you know
earnest pulsar
why do server boosters rarely say anything in the normal text channels?
ruby wasp
They're busy in the #furry-rp channel
earnest pulsar
leading to incredible creations such as scattergun
That was because of bug hunters? For what problem could the scattergun be the key
weary mesa
Being bad
ruby wasp
That was because of bug hunters? For what problem could the scattergun be the k...
Probably not being able to clear levels without kiting properly
😳
obsidian depot
When god mode alone isn't enough to clear a level
soft crater
Skissue
void bay
Am I correct in assuming that in R6D2 you can get 9/9 terminals while skipping dark section with scouts+mothers?
Cos rn it seems to me that you can def skip a room/section, but I'm not sure which one.
noble sierra
Yes, you can skip any one of the four sections.
void bay
Yes, you can skip any one of the four sections.
So even the whole error alarm
noble sierra
Yes
12 terminals total, 2 you can't avoid. 3 in error section, 3 in dark section, 2 in fog section, 2 in blood door section.
void bay
Yes
Thanks a lot!
That's interesting and really helpful. Playing with a group and we are kinda bad at managing resources long term and so far haven't been able to finish D2, cos we are trying to do everything.
Oh, and also we do checkpoint too early for some reason.
grizzled widget
You can also wait to do the charger scout alarm door until after you turn off the fog in secondary
crystal basalt
Can you oneshot a charger scout with a chokemod to the back?
cosmic marten
yea
crystal basalt
Interesting
grizzled widget
You can kill a charger scout to the front with chokemod
Just rapid fire 2-3 shots. Doesn't matter where you aim
He dead.
cosmic marten
but ammo
crystal basalt
but ammo
This man gets me
Also how far do you have to be from an enemy to avoid alerting it when you shoot?
cosmic marten
40m
crystal basalt
Damm
crystal basalt
Ah yes the knife, the best gun
cosmic marten
Oh, you said shoot
did u think he meant shaft?
cosmic marten
imagine shafting a sleeper 40 meters away
crystal basalt
I do not want to shaft a sleeper
cosmic marten
imagine the length and girth you would need to shaft a sleeper 40 metres away
crystal basalt
Well maybe a floater
cosmic marten
you would need the long range fle-i mean flashlight
grizzled widget
Why did they changed cfoam grenades?
cosmic marten
?
grizzled widget
You used to be able to carry 2 or 3 at once
cosmic marten
op?
grizzled widget
It's a consumable how op?
finite plinth
i too enjoy burning 2 or 3 times the ammo needed on a singular enemy
crystal basalt
Means you can carry 3 doors worth of cfoam each
crystal basalt
It would be so nice for soloing
cosmic marten
yea but would you like to burn 30 after a quirky blue blast emanates from the scout?
that's what i enjoy
grizzled widget
One grenade used to be 33%. Now it's 100%
finite plinth
that's what i would refer as
crystal basalt
Ah, it balances out
finite plinth
a skill issue
cosmic marten
a skill issue
skissue*
finite plinth
and i can solo a charger scout wave with 8 shots
crystal basalt
yea but would you like to burn 30 after a quirky blue blast emanates from the sc...
Just shoot it in the back
cosmic marten
and i can solo a charger scout wave with 8 shots
yea but u have a choke mod not a hel gun
finite plinth
yea hel gun
crystal basalt
Who wants to play GTFO
finite plinth
well if i don't have a skill issue, i can do it with 6
finite plinth
it's just 8 or 9 chargers
rigid sinew
sad and why are u here ?
jk
in seriousness, use the lfg channels
can find lads there... probably
finite plinth
hel gun can pen 4
cosmic marten
yes
craggy pier
How do you guys reduce heat of your computers when you play GTFO?😂
crystal basalt
well if i don't have a skill issue, i can do it with 6
Touch grass
cosmic marten
hel gun can pen 4
but in this fake scenario we're talking about the choke mod
crystal basalt
How do you guys reduce heat of your computers when you play GTFO?😂
More fans
finite plinth
it's all covered with chinese smog and toxins
grizzled widget
How do you guys reduce heat of your computers when you play GTFO?😂
My cpu has 32 degrees constant. Just more fans or fan strength
finite plinth
I would like to not touch them
craggy pier
My cpu has 32 degrees constant. Just more fans or fan strength
Fuck, that is scary.😂😱
grizzled widget
If your pc doesn't sound like a jet engine it's not enough fans
craggy pier
It doesn't sound like jet engine. It just feel hot like a car engine.
grizzled widget
32 is a really solid temp
rigid sinew
How do you guys reduce heat of your computers when you play GTFO?😂
undervolting cpu and/or gpu, limiting cpu and/or gpu, use a more aggressive fan curve
grizzled widget
Fuck, that is scary.😂😱
Wdym
grizzled widget
Your gonna fry your system running that high, jesus
I'd consider anything above 50 maybe 60 to be alarming
craggy pier
playing with 80c on both gpu and cpu
🤣 Mine is around 50 to 60.
crystal basalt
How do I kite
finite plinth
shift + w
grizzled widget
🤣 Mine is around 50 to 60.
I live in the north. I have the advantage of climate helping cool my system
rigid sinew
How do I kite
you don't :troll:
craggy pier
I live in the north. I have the advantage of climate helping cool my system
I live in the land of eternal sun and rain only, which is filled with sunny and hot days most of the time.
grizzled widget
Florida
crystal basalt
Florida?
craggy pier
It won't help my system.🤣
grizzled widget
No, the humidity wont.
crystal basalt
My system runs fine in Florida
craggy pier
I live in Singapore, where deadly sun rays and immense heat swallows my weak laptop.
crystal basalt
Oh you were talking laptop temps?
craggy pier
Yes.
grizzled widget
Laptop Temps are always higher
crystal basalt
As long as your below like 120c your within the standard range
craggy pier
Will i expect frying?
grizzled widget
Hopefully not
craggy pier
They just fry so much that I can eat so much takoyaki.
Any ways on how to at least, don't make my laptop feel like a car engine?
rigid sinew
anything <=85c is pretty good for cpu and gpu
craggy pier
Honestly, car engine heat are not cool at all.😂
crystal basalt
Minimize graphics, limit framerate
grizzled widget
Modifying a laptop is nothing like modifying a pc
crystal basalt
Minimize graphics, limit framerate
If you have already done this then you can't really
craggy pier
Honestly, i just don't wanna fry my motherboard for the third time.😂
craggy pier
If you have already done this then you can't really
Reduce graphics I did, but limit frame rate? Hmmmm... I will do that later.👍
rigid sinew
Honestly, i just don't wanna fry my motherboard for the third time.😂
how do you fry a motherboard lol
grizzled widget
For the 3rd time!!??
craggy pier
Some people told me to get the strange cooler contraption where you just plug it into your laptop and it sucks all heat.
rigid sinew
troll'd
craggy pier
how do you fry a motherboard lol
Hmmmm... I have no idea myself. Probably playing GTFO and Devil May Cry 5 for 6 hours is the reason.🤔
WITHOUT STOPPING
grizzled widget
Rookie numbers
craggy pier
🤣🤣🤣 So yeah, I really hope my laptop won't go bonkers for the 4th time.😂
craggy pier
Rookie numbers
🤣
rigid sinew
Hmmmm... I have no idea myself. Probably playing GTFO and Devil May Cry 5 for 6 ...
even then I doubt it should be that easy to fry lol
grizzled widget
You think I'm joking, but I've done 36 hours with my guild before in WoW raiding molten core
And half of that was just waiting
craggy pier
even then I doubt it should be that easy to fry lol
Yeah, still I have no idea though. Honestly, the next thing I knew when I realised my laptop went into coma and send it to Acer workshop, Acer mechanic told me that it was the fried motherboard.
🤣🤣🤣
craggy pier
You think I'm joking, but I've done 36 hours with my guild before in WoW raiding...
🤣 That is so nice. Waiting 18 hours for teammates?😆
rigid sinew
Yeah, still I have no idea though. Honestly, the next thing I knew when I realis...
mfw
grizzled widget
🤣 That is so nice. Waiting 18 hours for teammates?😆
molten core requires 40 people...
turbid rose
When will the rundown 7 will be out ?
rigid sinew
When will the rundown 7 will be out ?
we don't know
turbid rose
ok ty
vital sierra
soon
crystal basalt
I will be holding you to this
rigid sinew
soon, but in Valve timescale
regal heron
so 3 years?
crystal basalt
If R7 isn't out by the end of the month I will be disappointed in you
spark wolf
rly hope that if they do just drop r7 out of nowhere it'll at least contain a fix for the recent patch
will be rly aids playing with my team that has tons of latency if they don't
dapper nimbus
If R7 isn't out by the end of the month I will be disappointed in you
That's some high expectations... 😅
crystal basalt
Then he shouldn't have guaranteed that it would be soon
dapper nimbus
Who guaranteed it?
finite plinth
wow a non dev guaranteed it
finite plinth
smoky raft
Found a sleeper that had spikes like a hybrid but only the size of a standard striker, did they change the hybrid model or am I just blind?
unkempt ridge
Found a sleeper that had spikes like a hybrid but only the size of a standard st...
that's called a charger
smoky raft
the spikes looked to be too short to be a charger*
but okey
soft crater
Hybrids are hunched over crouching when sleeping.
smoky raft
Hybrids are hunched over crouching when sleeping.
which I also should've mentioned..
in that case I guess I'm just blind, but thank you
smoky raft
I was playing D1
smoky raft
👍
4 stack
smoky raft
knowns
smoky raft
Because there are hacker/modders who can spawn in mobs
noted
soft crater
Other times they'll probably have inf ammo/hp
Yeah. I played with a new guy and he thought his game was bugging out because he saw shadows in A1
(He didnt know they were actually a enemy in the game yet. And thought it was just a bug that he could only see them with his flash light)
smoky raft
yikes
though I think I'm safe as I usually only play when my group is around
soft crater
That's good then
unkempt ridge
Yeah. I played with a new guy and he thought his game was bugging out because he...
the famous bug
"my friend has infinite ammo, where do I report this bug ?"
soft crater
"my friend has infinite ammo, where do I report this bug ?"
It's funny seeing a unlimited ammo chokemod just blasting everything to smithereens
grand sand
Is there a known solution to having the matter wave projector permanently stuck in my hands after a checkpoint restart?
rigid sinew
disconnect and reconnect only if you are not the host
grand sand
how does one reconnect to a squad of randoms?
rigid sinew
copy the lobby id
grand sand
ok that worked
naive ingot
hey so my friends have tried on and on again to make a lobby with all of us and it ends up one person not seeing one other in the lobby and ends up costing us tons of time, is there a fix for this?
neon moss
On the Bio-Tracker, what is the tiny red dot?
Not the one that moves, we figured out thats a scout, but the tiny red dot that doesnt move
desert falcon
visual bug
soft kiln
"my friend has infinite ammo, where do I report this bug ?"
"my med pack glitched"
hollow mountain
r7 when ?
covert apex
If they actually bring out an extension the devs are retarded
grizzled widget
If they actually bring out an extension the devs are retarded
why?
an extension would be great
either or.
covert apex
what would an extension even bring to r6?
there are already a ton of expeditions
any more would just kill the rundown
having those expeditions for r7 would be more beneficial
finite plinth
i sure love to play the 8 c tiers this rundown
spark wolf
will definitely still complain if they don't fix recent patch issue
soft crater
Skissue
cosmic marten
sounds like grass issue to me
covert apex
also e tier
who's to say an E-tier will even be added with an extension?
covert apex
more cosmetics
You'll get more with a new rundown??
abstract sentinel
what is up with the jerky enemy animations/movement? is that by design or due to lag?
rigid sinew
could be both
supposedly related to netcode afaik
rain steeple
Also Chargers and tanks swiping their way into walls whenever they use that attack, or enemies attacking you through grates and around corners when they aren't supposed to
I think it does have to do with them messing with the netcode I am pretty sure, I have heard that being said when people have brought up to LoS issue from time to time
maiden cypress
it was the devs trying to account for jittery enemies when someone is playing with high ping
but they didnt exactly fix it and now enemies are just equally fucked for everyone
abstract sentinel
😦
rain steeple
Yeah
warm yew
They made it worse tbh
maiden cypress
obviously
rain steeple
It was fun doing D2 secondary getting sniped through grates, around corners, and getting tagged by tongues before they were even visible
warm yew
Can't see the fixed animations when you're downed before you can react to it
maiden cypress
im just annoyed about how they havent even acknowledged it
grizzled widget
You'll get more with a new rundown??
obviously?
rain steeple
im just annoyed about how they havent even acknowledged it
fr
grizzled widget
if they don't add more cosmetics, at minimum we will get more requisitions
rain steeple
It feels so cheap when I am well out of swiping range of a charger or giant, but then the phantom hitbox still clips me
maiden cypress
if they don't add more cosmetics, at minimum we will get more requisitions
no he said that because you'd get more cosmetics if you get a new rundown anyway
rain steeple
I have literally gotten hit by giants when I was 3 feet behind them, when they shouldn't at all be able to hit me
grizzled widget
no he said that because you'd get more cosmetics if you get a new rundown anyway
you will also get more with an extension. more levels means more requisitions
doesn't matter the package
warm yew
It feels so cheap when I am well out of swiping range of a charger or giant, but...
Its because instead of the enemies being synced for everyone their animations are client sided, but not the actual attacks that damage
So you get tagged from seemingly farther away
rain steeple
Yeah, that is so scuffed
maiden cypress
doesn't matter the package
yes, so saying you get more cosmetics to make a case for extension instead of r7 doesnt really work
rain steeple
How many rundowns have had chargers flying into walls when they used their swipes?
grizzled widget
yes, so saying you get more cosmetics to make a case for extension instead of r7...
what are you talking about?
i said either would be fine
warm yew
Can't wait for it to become a feature like collision
maiden cypress
nvm brother (:
maiden cypress
How many rundowns have had chargers flying into walls when they used their swipe...
i think all of them lmao
rain steeple
God, I can't imagine it'd be hard to sync up their body hitbox with the swiping attack, and have it move with them as they swing instead of going into walls and then teleporting back to where they were at the start of the attack
grizzled widget
God, I can't imagine it'd be hard to sync up their body hitbox with the swiping ...
backseat developing
it's unity. it's a chaotic mess.
i've tried to develop shit in it before with C#, it's a nightmare
maiden cypress
i mean yes but how does an oversight as big as that even exist
grizzled widget
i mean yes but how does an oversight as big as that even exist
it's usually an accident. it doesn't exist until it suddenly does, and usually you can fix it without breaking other shit for seemingly no reason.
maiden cypress
just because unity is shitty doesnt mean you can excuse the devs for not fixing that for 2 years
grizzled widget
the community manager said that if a bug is deliberate and hard to do on accident, it is low priority.
rain steeple
Even if you can't have the bodies hitbox move with the animation, at least have it snap to where the animation ends, instead of them teleporting backwards
abstract sentinel
deliberate bug...?
warm yew
I mean, if you just revert the fix, or revert versions, problem fixed, game's more playable now
grizzled widget
I mean, if you just revert the fix, or revert versions, problem fixed, game's mo...
honestly, they can't. their shit keeps breaking every time they update
it's why you need an old version of the game to play old rundowns
for example
rain steeple
Playing old rundowns 🤮
grizzled widget
i didn't say to.
i personally don't
the point i'm making, is that stuff literally doesn't work.
they'd have to revert EVERYTHING to the time of the update
maiden cypress
i'd rather that over getting tongue around corners i'll be honest
grizzled widget
they won't revert everything just for that.
maiden cypress
ik it's not as easy communicating that to the devs and the patch that "fixed" the jitter bug included a fuckton more stuff the devs worked on, but you'd think they'd have figured it out by now
how to revert it
rain steeple
they won't revert everything just for that.
Then I think it's about time they find a way to fix it in the current version
grizzled widget
Then I think it's about time they find a way to fix it in the current version
i think your barking up the wrong tree. some of the stuff in game has been around since r1.
optical bugs still occur
grizzled widget
you can't force the devs to do anything, really.
rain steeple
Even more reason to find a way to fix it, if it has been around that long. Getting sniped by tongues around corners is from this rundown
grizzled widget
that shit is FRESH
yes, but ontop of other things, it's relatively minor
maiden cypress
you gotta be kidding lmao
grizzled widget
your comparing one big wasp to a hornet's nest
rain steeple
"relatively minor" Do you know how many runs I have lost to getting sniped by an enemy that I literally couldn't do anything about because it was around a corner
grizzled widget
"relatively minor" Do you know how many runs I have lost to getting sniped by an...
that's not my problem
i'm just saying
rain steeple
that's not my problem
grizzled widget
it's probably not going to be fixed anytime soon
maiden cypress
🤓
grizzled widget
how long have you been in here shit-talking gtfo about bugs?
that's not the right way to go about it
rain steeple
When the bugs are the sole reason I am dying in levels near the end, I think I have the right to bitch about them
maiden cypress
idk
grizzled widget
yes, bugs suck. but arguing and complaining won't fix it.
maiden cypress
15 minutes?
warm yew
Only thing we can do because the devs have been silent for weeks
I don't count that fucking annoucement about an announcement
grizzled widget
they were on holiday and came back into development about 5 weeks ago.
maiden cypress
they rarely directly acknowledge bugs
rain steeple
yes, bugs suck. but arguing and complaining won't fix it.
And asking for an extension won't get you one sooner, so I think that if I should shut up and stop complaining, it'd only be fair for you to stop talking about an extension
maiden cypress
they were on holiday and came back into development about 5 weeks ago.
you're right my bad 5 weeks is too little to acknowledge game breaking bug
grizzled widget
And asking for an extension won't get you one sooner, so I think that if I shoul...
that is a fair assessment, though complaining is more negative than hoping
rain steeple
I love this game, I really do, but oh my god some of the bugs are just downright bullshit
grizzled widget
this game functions by breaking the players' legs with difficulty. with enough bugs, you can break the games' legs back.
rain steeple
what
maiden cypress
the difficulty is in the bugs ngl
rain steeple
Ah yes, enemies hitting me around corners, now all I have to do is master the art of bullet bending, and send my bullets around corners to counteract them
Like tf you mean by that, my man
grizzled widget
Like tf you mean by that, my man
edit: hidden
if the bugs are killing you, bug them back.
rain steeple
"If the game is breaking, break it more" ah, of course
Never thought of just bsing my way through the game, instead of playing it like how it was intended
maiden cypress
edit: hidden
this sounds like a functional game that i'd enjoy playing yes
rain steeple
The answer was right in front of me all along
grizzled widget
there are obviously times for both
grizzled widget
this sounds like a functional game that i'd enjoy playing yes
edit: hidden
it's not that hard. there are alot of old game-breaking bugs
that one's been in since r3 i believe
desert falcon
not sure that explaining a game breaking bug here is the right call
grizzled widget
not sure that explaining a game breaking bug here is the right call
probably not, but still
my point being, the game has a lot of bugs. one new one isn't a big deal
getting angry about it won't fix it faster
i don't get why people are being so aggressive about it recently.
maiden cypress
because it's something they have no control over
rain steeple
Because the bugs are so much more of a glaring issue this rundown
maiden cypress
whatever bug you mentioned was something you need to go out of your way to achieve
this one? You just gotta play as client lmao have fun with not knowing where enemies ACTUALLY are
on top of that, no one has acknowledged it
grizzled widget
it's frustrating, yes. but we can't do anything about it
maiden cypress
for the 2 months it's been out for
rain steeple
it's frustrating, yes. but we can't do anything about it
Yeah, thanks for repeating the reason why it is so frustrating bud
abstract sentinel
sucks I thought the game/team would be mature by now
finite plinth
when you can't create wall collision for enemy melee attacks so the next best thing is clearly teleporting them back to the original spot
but also gigabrain adding enemy collision for players with lingering hitboxes
making it even worse than it already was in older rundowns
counterplay is not having a skill issue and cope harder
also it's always the player's fault because developer skill issue doesn't exist
such as mom hitboxes, ai stuck in walls, funny transparency 100 shadows instead of making a texture
a bad workman always blames his tools, but who am i judge
it's clearly the engine's fault
despite devs creating epic games or mods using old engines
such as pdth, rww2
rigid sinew
aren't the only guys from payday Simon and Ulf?
finite plinth
idk
i'm still in awe to how playable, relatively in depth and bugfree otwd is
with only 6 months in development
but it's probably and totally because of the engine guys
and not the developers
ruby wasp
otwd ?
finite plinth
nooooo, it's always the engine's and player's fault
if we're not that nitpicky, there's no bugs in gtfo
finite plinth
despite it occuring in a daily
no
literally every single expedition playthrough
it's our fault if we experienced it
mystic loom
it's our fault if we experienced it
Our fault is that we finish R6 too fast
finite plinth
we're speedrunners
because finishing the game is the equivalent of speedrunning
according to special minded people
mystic loom
according to special minded people
Lmao
mystic loom
R5: people start shooting while enemy wake, “ why you don’t hammer them for saving ammo”
R6: people start shooting while enemy wake up, “ why don’t your shoot them, we have enough ammo anyway”