#gtfo-related-questions
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yeah
it does 2 tap full charge locks tho
bat 1 taps no matter charge
and stuns small enemies
but i just like shanking.
i work with a team of idiots, myself included, so that quick one tap headshot charge counts.
I feel ya, I’ve been trying to do some soloing
Hasn’t been working out for me ofc, pretty much expected in a four player game
yeah
i just enjoy the shanking and extermination.
just played Doom Eternal so
heh
but knife works for some.
its helpful for quick chain kills.
Definitely, like when two sleepers are right next to each other. Absolute life saver
im not too good at the sledge 1-2 combo
Ah I’ve been meaning to buy and play that, haven’t had a chance to check it out yet
i got it Christmas sale, 22.49 for a 89.99 base price. 75% off.
is nice.
Welp Ig I’ll wait til the next big sale
pure straight up unfiltered slaughter of demons is nice, and i wish you godspeed.
Thank you
I shall one day join in on this demon slaughtering
Ight I gtg, cya dude
cya
Arguments about melee kek
All of the melees are the same if you fully understand stealth mechanics
Hammer for everything, bat for if you are that put off by stamina
Knife for if you still want to live in R4 and don’t know how to shoot
Spear never.
Spear is actually not good for scout killing
because you really cant sprint through the tentacles
and with the hammer, you can
Well, if you’re not good at scout killing I don’t think you’d be rushing through the tentacles to begin with.
Recommendations on how to use the lmg effectively?
I feel like there’s a lot of potential in that gun, but the ads recoil makes it hard to hit consistent shots. Unless that’s the point?…
Burst fire
Just pull down really hard i guess
Lmao
I guess then it’s like
A fully automatic hell-gun, yeah?
That’s what I’m getting here
Far from it
Hel gun hits like a truck and has a pen of 4
Machinegun shoots noodles in comparison
If you mean in terms of how it should be used, somewhat i assume, i never liked MG
Its literally the CC special
I'd love it a lot more if heavyar wasn't a thing, that's for sure
down left right
yeah wiggling your mouse left and right while pulling down is the way
Keep track of head pretty much
never ads with machigun
always hipfire, better control, no tunnel vision
only ads if your in a hallway anything you know theyre coming from one way
That’s me with the bullpup sights lmao
Bullpup got shit sights
Yep
I don't know how i did i with that gun
But i like it its pretty decent
It sounds like the guns from alien
Kinda
Insurgency had the best solution, a toggle button so you can swap optics for irons at any time.
Yes but gtfo isn't insurgeny now is it
Somewhat pointless comment, its a great feature and im surprised no other game has it.
Pretty sure it was most optics in sandstorm
it only applies for ones that are 3/4 cost 4x optics iirc
3 cost ones you can swap to irons
4 cost ones gave you an extra red dot
the 2 cost ones gave you a zoom scope for your 1x sights
speaking of toggleable sights, ready or not can do it now
pretty cool
pd2 has it too like 5/6 years ago iirc, with toggleable irons/red dot
Almost certain the payday toggle was specifically for the sniper rifle
the side sights are applicable for ars as well
The sniper side sight would be great for gtfo...then again the sniper isnt intended for close range use lol
All or nothing my friend. Gun stacking like serious sam DD.
does ADS'ing with shotgun help reduce spread?
No
so theres no reason to ADS with it at all?
Correct
ok, thanks. thats funny though
and im assuming same with sawed off and scatter as well?
Chokemod too
im never gonna use chokemod
All pellet weapons

Choke mod cracked tho
why bring chokemod when u can bring sniper though
Chokemod more cute
cooler reload animation
Plus better defense at close range
I couldn't believe the chokemod fire delay when I spammed it for the first time
That 5 second delay after reloading the pump tho.
The what now?
Too true
The hell are you all on about 
You haven't noticed the literal 5 second reload time?
tell me you don't use the shotgun without telling me you don't use the shotgun 
I'm actually surprised its that long. In my head the bullpup reload is the worst thing ever
I use shotgun a fair bit and i animation cancel with it, that's why i was confused
If you don’t reload cancel your guns you’re doing it wrong
Ain’t no way I’m sitting through 2 or 3 second animations for no reason
what the most efficient build to run on bots?
You mean gun or tool or both
is it hel rev. + HAR
yre aprefearbly both
im running cfoam + 2 burst sentries but idk if theres a better combo
guns,, i will recommend assault/hel rev and heavy assault rifle
We usually play as a 2 with 2 bots. We give the bot the biotracker as they are so efficient with it, and I either give them the sentry or mines as that's reliable. I never give them foam.
they can bring shotgun and hel rev but do remind that they are very easy to do friendly fire
tools, i will recommand 1 mine( you use it),2 sentry (burst sentry should be the best), and a bio
ah i see, i had the opposite inclination id figure because robots theyd be bad with mines, quite the opposite huh
if you really want to bring c-foam and mine
Well, you get the deploy marker as if you had it, so its basically the same as you carrying I find.
then you should be the one who use c-foam, since they are bad at using mines, but more worse in using c-foam
yep
I'd say any semi primary and HAR Sniper for specials since they snipe with shotguns
do bots have inf ammo?
No
but sometimes they really aim bad, i saw dauda use DMR to shoot a shooter and miss 7 hits
That'd be stupid
He's having a bad day
yea that makes sense im just not quite sure how well fleshed out these bots are
so i dont recommand all bots bring DMR now, but they can
"bots" in other games ~~back 4 blood ~~ are so bad
unrelated but what's the shotgun people use now? did they remove the other shotgun?
they remove the combat shotgun, but imo if the combat shotgun still exist,i will still use the normal one
Normal shottie - best
Chokemod - almost same stats, tighter spread, half magazine
Scattergun - different purpose, it's a boss killer and filler for giants

nice ty
Only thing chokemod is better at is chargers
Its not removed entirely, just unavailable for r6
As landing ALL pallets means 1 hit killing them
we know
are people still making those copy pastes of the most efficient gun per ammo pack?
burst rifle actually pretty epic for bots
I have one if you want it
||Lmao||
yes please
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yeeess thank you
Looks more like you are trying to summon a big dad
3k hp cause why not 
wow sawed off eff. is pretty high huh
Remember the numbers don't tell you the whole story, you need experience for that
when you get friendly fire by them over 5 times in a run
But gets you an idea
Its pretty epic, but you're going to have to be aggressively close for it to be actually efficient
For sawed off, miss a tad and that efficiency drops by half, to tell you one
And close to no stagger abilities whatsoever
The stagger on it is so good
oh that makes sense i didnt really factor that in
What i mean is how many it can stagger between each reload
that why i dont first recommand a shotgun🙂
give bots choke mod
if you know the range of sawed off and can use terrain to avoid tongues up close, sawed off is a beast
epic
run infront of your shotgun and said watch it
that why dauda was down
imagine if there was b4b ff bickering
probably the only good thing b4b had
is that ff is not always your fault
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Hey. I just bought the game. I'd much prefer to mess around solo for a while without caring about winning a mission. Web results suggest that it is possible to play the game solo but the in-game Rundown/Matchmake UI suggests otherwise. How can I start a solo match?
click expedition, host lobby
You can decide to bring bots or not with you as well
you can even make them spawn/disappear mid-game
a good skill
Ah, thank you! I had to click A1 "Artifact 7", for example, then Host. Got it. 🙂
hi everyone, i'm pretty new here, can someone pls explain what does the Artifact heat mean?
.t boosters
Boosters are chemical cocktails injected into your brain, that you might earn from The Warden by collecting artifacts of different rarities. They are temporary boosters that are meant to increase your chance of completing expeditions in The Complex. Some boosters require nothing to be activated, while others might have conditions that the prisoners must meet in order to reap its benefits, and other boosters might give you disadvantages in certain aspects. The worth of a artifact is determined by the so-called "artifact heat", which is different for each level and each person. The more artifacts you collect in an expedition, the more the heat will decrease, which means that replaying the same level will make the artifacts of that expedition less valuable for a while. Heat will automatically increase by playing another expedition.
thx a lot 😄
What’s the best melee
Short answer: Sledgehammer
Long answer: They all have specific uses, knife is good for killing many normal enemies in stealth quickly, bat has a lot of stagger damage to keep enemies stunlocked, spear has a longer range so you can poke giants down more easily, or perhaps kill scouts more easily too, sledgehammer has the highest damage and is all round solid.
I see, thank you
what's the optimal time I should get to the extreme bulkhead scanner if I'm doing C3 PE?
?
I read it
thank you
: D
cuz we've been getting to the extreme bit at 14 mins which has been
an experience
14 mins isn't bad, since you're going to be swallowed by fog anyways.
Issue is the tank rushes us by that time
If you hear the tank, then fight it in the extreme room.
It'd be better to fight it post-checkpoint door, but the extreme room isn't bad either.
can i redo mission to get cosmetics ?
i know every 3 expedition you get something but will redo a mission count for it ?
No
& it's not really 3 expeditions
it's 3 identical sectors from 3 different expeditions
oh ok thx
.t vanity rewards
You get one reward for completing each of the challenges in the 'Prisoner Apparel Requisition' list shown below. Rewards are selected from various pools. Additional reward chances will be available with future content drops (e.g., New Rundown releases)
i got a problem of my mouse just moving upwards when starting and playing the game anyone any idea of fixing it already tried reopening it?
Unplug controller or racing wheels.
plugged in a controler then plugged it out it worked....
changed nothing with the mouse
but thanks i guess
Is every alarm security scan timed? Like if I don’t clear it fast enough will the waves keep coming?
I see
which means only so many enemies can be present at once
i heard like 25 or something like that in terms of total value, where normal sleepers are 1 and giants equal to 2
numbers may be off a tad, but it should give you the idea
Thank you, that clears things up for me
is there a way to do a private lobby? also is this game viable with only two players?
All lobbies are technically private
that opens a private lobby
Click on a level, you will see "host lobby' above the matchmake button
ok thanks i'll check that out after this match ig
experienced players can duo the rundown
hmm
but its unrealistic for newer players
i'm only wanting to play this with my bro
so i'll probably just refund the game tbh
i saw co-op and thought 2 player
you might be able to get through the first two levels but thats about it
you can still play a game
you have 2 hours before refund
if you want a good 2 player co-op shooter try gunfire reborn, synthetik or roboquest
sometimes the first two levels take beginners two hours
my bro and i have been playing gunfire reborn recently 🙂
i'll check out those others
thanks
hey so after i do A1 do i go straight to B1?
It says completed [1,-,-,-,]
yes
Yep theres nothing in A1 that you have to go back to and do so just go and do B1
.t sectors
Sectors are a mechanic which adds optional objectives to the game, ranging from altering the game state to adding other objectives. The following sectors are available:
Primary
Secondary
Overload (Third Sector)
Prisoner efficiency (All three Sectors in the same run)
Multiple sectors can be completed at the same time, however you always need to do the Primary/Main sector.
what is sentry CPU speed? Like the sentry shoots faster?
always wondered what [1,-,-,-,] stands for in A1. Since there is no 2ndary etc
it just means you completed the main route, which is the only route in a1
[1,0,-,-] would mean there is a secondary objective you didnt complete
what is the meatball spawncap?
What means R6A1 or R#??
R6A1 is the descriptor of a mission.
R# is the rundown number - each rundown has their own missions, and we're currently in Rundown 6.
A1 being the level.
Each Rundown had at least A1-D1, so the R# is pretty important to clarify which mission we're talking about.
Ohhh thankss
A = easier level, B harder, C , D level is hardest rn
A1 , A2, A3 , doesnt mean anything, they are just all A levels, not ordered
Got it , thanks
Gonna start soloing some of the levels, what would be the better tool to bring, mines or sentry for A1?
for A1, honestly, sentry
Depends on how you do things. From what i've gathered, the goal in solo is to not let sleepers gather up, otherwise you'll need to kite
mines work if you can play well and reat well
if you let them gather up, kite them behind a door and mine it, that solves that
but burst is really amazing in i.e. A1
doing missions like C3 solo without mines is suicide however
so it depends on mission+playstyle
generally (it depends on playstyle a bit) sentry is better for a1/b1/c1
^
for b2 mines (since you have a ton of doors and tool)
c2 idk, c3 definetly mines
anything above that is mostly SUPER intense or giant kiting
c2 probably mines too, since you can mine all them blood doors and trivialize those whilst also potentially nuking the ||mom|| at the end
this
and the super intense part is theoretically not impossible but y i k e s
I can't say it safely either, but I'd reckon based on the mission and layout mines are better
Kinda funny how the best tool for all 1 levels is sentry and for the others mostly mines again)
not sure if mines work against the ||mom|| in c2 if you do extreme, since you won't have the time to lure her into the mines with the ||hybrid error on your ass||
I’m terms of guns then, I assume it’d be best to have good wave clear?
once again depends
For c2. Id say first alarm sentry, 2nd mines, 3rd sentry and mines are pretty equal i guess?. After that secondary scan would be sentry but ending mines
I've run A1 in particular with double shotgun - sawed-off and normal shotty
well you can run a1 with any weapon
I've run A1 with autopistol and revolver too, before
ive done it with all of em. Even sawed off scatter
like, yeah, you can run A1 with anything, but basically if you can kill enemies reliably that's the weapons you'll want for solo
Oh if you can run machine pistol then I should be fine with AR and MG
on later missions that translates into i.e. Hel Revo + Sniper
oh defo
generally use what you can kill with effectively. I prefer hel revolver and heavy ar/shotgun
MG might not be the best for solo but it should work
this
I prefer DMR + Sniper tbh
Depends on level for secondary. Primary is preference, mine is DMR
^
I would run dmr if my aim was better, I just need to practice with a lot of the guns in general
If my aim was better I would even consider running hel gun
some primaries kill better. But all have circumstances (for example dmr is a lot better in longer sight lines than say machine pistol
)
Generally speaking guns like dmr / hel revo / pistol work better as it is easier to apply controlled stagger on multiple enemies
If you are being overwhelmed, you can shoot everything once to stagger
ye. And heavy ar/shotgun (machine gun aswell) are decent all rounders
Sniper is „mandatory“ for stuff like d1 and somewhat c3 id say
Hm, I guess I could also just use this to practice actually, get used to guns I haven’t really used like pistol, hel revolver, dmr, revolver (because I know that shit slaps), and hel gun
A1 is perfect for that. B1 is a step up if a1 gets to easy
I figured, there are a lot more big dudes
b2/c1 need actual thought put into some stuff
Don't get me wrong, almost any primary can work. But it will be more difficult to controll staggers on autos
@floral pecan sawed off stagger 
As it is 2/3 shots or a headshot, compared to others which only need 1 bodyshot
That's why i said almost 
This is what i did in a1 btw. Made me realize im just not cut out for machine gun and revolver (dislike how chunky it is) but that i deal with hel gun and dmr quite well
I feel like if you can land every shot with MG, it’d probably be better then Heavy AR, since I am pretty sure it does more damage per bullet
Better in what way?
less dmg per bullet. But due to that it CAN be more efficient
its just hard af to actually cut of each shot (and land them all first) when an enemy is dead
mg is mostly hipfire
Gotcha, gotcha
I don't see anyone ever having max efficiency with guns like mg
^
ye
While with heavy ar its definetly possible pretty often
so much fun to kill 10 sleepers per mag 
And heavy ar does stagger on each bullet
So you can do the same thing you do with DMR/pistol/hel revo and "share" the stagger easily
MG needs headshots for 1 hit stagger
can anyone explain the ingame matchmaking system please? I find it quite hard to find a whole group, and if matchmaking is clicked after some have joined, it seems to boot all and start again.
but why is there 3 matchmake buttons after match search then. One for each player which is not part of the group
it seems a bit confusing to me. Ive sat for 1 min = full group, currently im waiting almost an hour
so im thinking i must do something wrong
@ devs - i would like a lobby solution if possible, "create lobby, join existing lobby"
lots of people asked that
I high key think that adding a server browser would alleviate a lot of issues
CS 1.6 did it and that is over 20 years old
So I really can’t imagine it would be too difficult to design
well I too would love to see a server browser
but in general I don't think it will make the process any easier/better than it already is
Would likely just be the discord #lfg-... but glorified in some sense
i don't know how you consider it similar but if it's a direct upgrade then why not
my beef is not the idea of having it 'cause wtf, of course I want to have it
it's just that I think it will be a high quality band-aid placed on top of a cheaper one
discord is a band-aid, an actual server browser isn't
it not solving everything is a fact yes
then what exactly does it fix?
a server browser for a self-hosted 4-player lobby is a bit pointless IMO
DRG has a server browser and it has like 9 servers close to me, which are all lone wolf runs lol
I really think that discord lfg is the best way to go for a game like this
nah solo best way
Imagine doing D4 matchmaking

surg alarm
gotta do the regen speed/regen cap
muted regen speed booster
Kinda just wish game had better discord integration
Its been done with * so i dont see why they seem to not bother with it
it would be cool to see the inv from discord that other games have
and rich discord status too
Yeah.
I use a rich discord mod which blocks me from getting completions
previous players?
Players you have played with recently
Yes, most steam games with multi let you snoop players
ah
GTFO can't for some reason
huh I never knew
Iirc even dark souls will let you check invaders
how do i git gud in ggfo
New players aren't real, now take your infection pill
Nowhere
noooo
Introduce extended protocol
Instead of the blue helmets we have the lemon helmets
the lemon helmet made me so sad I started using the drip mod
yo where's the squid game mask
did you guys know that gtfo is a squid game reference
😳
If people just bumrushed the stoplight at hihg sped maybe.
COMMUNITY POLL TIME:
Favorite (not best) sentry
Auto:🔴
burst:🟢
sniper:🔵
shotgun:🟡
auto takes a special play in my heart
I miss the days where we would bully the burst for being shit
anyone know how often the rundown changes?
shotgun sentry pog
no
4-5 months
what are the artifacts for
thanks
boosters
but the usual estimate goes around 3-6 months
r6 is an outlier because of 1.0, so i didn't include it
extentions are usually only a couple of months though
ye
a couple of months is a long time
10cc vacations :ujel:
play different games 
this is not a game you should binge. this is a game you pick up and play every time a rundown comes out, 100% it, then leave and wait for the next one
you can binge it if you want
you can, but you'll get bored fast.
R5 moment
depends on the player
can you ask people from Matchmaking, so that the auto one must be voted the most
@floral pecan i tested today, it should be 3 hits knife full charge pre each ball
at the top of my head, that should be enough damage without stealth multi. I'll check it later, thanks 
So here's the Noob Question of the Day,
The shooters - Is there a way to stay safe from their projectiles besides cover? Because during, say, scans when you don't have that luxury, I feel like I keep getting HP taxed 4% every time one shows up. So I was wondering if there was a way to dodge or some tip to not get turned into a pincushion. Fully accept this may be a "git gud" kinda question though
You can strafe side to side and the projectiles generally won’t hit you
it's about changing directions after they shot
if you were going left and they shoot, go right
if you keep going 1 direction it may or may not hit you
crouching helps too, easier if you are walking towards them
but if you meet hybrid, just do slide and run different direction both
Or if you're even more lazy, looking left or right to dodge.
Thank you all for your advice, I'll be sure to test it out later. My mistake seems to have been that I was trying to keep strafing in one direction (so just keep circling around them to the right) rather than changing it up
Hey all, I’ve been on the fence about buying this game because I don’t know anyone that plays it and I’m a pretty introverted person to play with randoms. Are there any groups on here open to quieter folks like me? Game looks pretty good.
Yeah, thought that might be the case lol
@pulsar kite id say its fine honestly
just specify for instance that you have preferences or simply use the voice commands in game imo

Yeah a couple of you convinced me. I got it, I’m sure I’ll find a group 🙂
are the hybrids the big shooters?
Shooters with spiky heads
hybrid projectiles are faster and more plentiful
hybrids themselves are smaller than big shooters
but quite tough
big shooters aka chickens are the standy tall wart-heads, they have no melee attack, fun to run around and hammer to death, adorable critters <3
they also look like theyre gonna trip fall and die everytime they stagger lol
Yea
So amusing
Run around them and stab each leg/arm 4 times with knife
Chickens do be going brrr
Is C-foam neccesary for C2?
no
It's pretty good, but not necessary.
so how do I unlock new cosmetics and how many can i get, I believe there's a limited amount?
.t vanity rewards
You get one reward for completing each of the challenges in the 'Prisoner Apparel Requisition' list shown below. Rewards are selected from various pools. Additional reward chances will be available with future content drops (e.g., New Rundown releases)
thanks boss
anyone know if there's currently any way to command the bots beyond deployables and pickups?
I generally only have time to solo (often have to afk), I had to go super slow to get past C1 but now I'm stuck, the AI constantly gets in the way or can't use things like fog fans properly so I end up with lots of wasted assets, not to mention it's super hard to set up firing lines and choke points because they're constantly on my ass lol.
damn, is there any way to trade tools?
I guess you can clear rooms fast if you take advantage of their inability to wake up sleepers
no
honestly that's been the best thing, being able to safely melee practically everything has been great
that and no fog damage
(that I've noticed)
i just killed a scout with a turret without it alerting anyone, is this a known thing?
yes
sounds like something ill be using often then
depends how you use it. if you use it wrong, it'll trigger the room
yeah i was preparing to go loud cuz i didnt have a way to kill the scout and then the turret killed it, so im not sure whatl happen next time
there are some conditions you need to make sure to have to make it work
which turret?
just the normal auto turret
although i tried it a second time with a sniper one and it worked the same
what loadouts do yall recommend
general use?
Ok 10th try on C1 , wish us luck ;-;
general use or d1 specifically
I'm going to hazard a guess and assume you mean Bio instead of Boi. 

qq When is the next rundown?
anyone else have problems loading c1
idk what it is about that one level but it’s totally destroyed my game and now I constantly get unity error crashes
I’ve tried uninstalling reinstalling verifying deleting the 10 chambers folders from appdata
we have no idea
stay tuned
that might not be a GTFO problem, I've never heard of that happening before
maybe try around in #gtfo-technical-support and see what happens
true yeah thx
thanks
whats a good special to use, i cant seem to decide but im set on the bullpup rifle for primary
Use one you are most comfortable with
i just wish the machine gun was better...
It is good if you can use it properly
Sure it's dps isn't the greatest, but its also the only full auto weapon with strong recoil
So it's unwieldy to use compared to other weapons
yeah, i feel like the much harder recoil + slower firerate compared to some other guns just isnt worth it
it feels like i miss 35/50 shots in its magazine when i use it lol
If you are using it to pick off single targets then you are doing it wrong
id assume the charge up firing is to discourage that
its hard to adjust to mag dumping
Its good in places like C1 T scan, C2 Secondary S scan, D1 Class VI, D3 Reactor defense
That's where in my opinion it shines above other weapons purely based on design
It's my goto wave clear tbh.
It's very comfortable for just spraying into crowds and having fairly consistent clear and chip damage.
If you are a god with it then it doesn't matter where you use it
Hence why i dont use Revolver, bc i suck balls with it
Im a pump shotty
Would 4 sniper sentries with speed/damage buffs help in the uplink room during D2 Extreme?
I've tried to do it like 30 times, and no team has been able to finish secondary
hell you only need like 2 if im honest
but you should give it a try if it works it works
With the uplink itself??
as long as it gets the job done
yeah was gonna try with bots, desperate haha
yeah the one with two terminals
i dunno man
Chargers arent that bad to deal with tho and the uplink only takes what like a minute
they aren't, but they swarm that room, with two on terminals and two left to defend, its pretty rough
Since ytour doing it with bots i think skipping the terminal fog room its viable
so you only have two entrances instead of 3
i dont know why theyve used that room for terminal uplinks
that room sucks
You don't need to be on terminals 24/7. Unless things have changed since the nerf/buffs my squad had a breeze with the uplink
I dunno i did this prenerf on like Day 2 of launch
I'm obsessed because it's I need to complete the entire rundown. D3PE was way easier than this.
all i need*
I was defending terminal and only saw like 1 charger at all during the uplink
I'm guessing my teammates at the other end handled the rest
what was ur loadout
See above
helpful
Back when the Class 4 was actually hard
that helps
When it initially released, it was like a surge wave of guzzlers, which then got nerfed to 2 at a time, and then back to like 5 or 6
They might not be able to hit you often but the more there are the more likely they are to hit you
but wasn't there a dash?
What
dash
As in dodge?
no as in dash
that helps too right?
just circle kite flyers
^
you have like 20 uses of med
was gonna say, doesn't moving in a circle negate them?
Depends, that room is shit for defense against flying enemies
Considering its the most open room in the game
pretty sure it's intended to kite them because ammo and tool was kinda tight while meds are abundant
oh yeah that true
:^
I cant tell if this is a troll message
me too
D2 pre nerf was just super shittily balanced
you can do whatever you want, i just never shoot the flyers
does anybody have any useful information about D2 that doesn't involve jerking off into their own anus
loadout, stims
Chino i dunno what info you want other than shoot the fucking chargers
Its not that hard
use hel gun, enemy die
Weapons mean fuck all in this game, since guns work better depending on how good you are with them
don't use hel for single chargers
line them up abusing their straight forward ai
win
yes if theres a single charger infront of you do not attempt to shoot it just sit there and take the hit for extra speed!
gotta be optimal
thanks!
if not your not playing gtfo! gotta pull those spreadsheet numbers to be good!
or just talk about the numbers and pretend you actually know how to use the gun
when in reality you cant aim for shit
😲
if you don't kill 32 chargers with 1 mag of hel gun, ure trollin
The only time a weapon is bad for a situation is the D1 boss fight with shotgun style weapons because its hard to reach but even then its not entirely useless
the hel gun tip/lining them up is super helpful thank you!
nah was just gonna get to that point and see how well it worked
more of a trial before i asked randos to all go sniper
i mean bots are not replacement for players, you'll never know how it will actually work with players that way
i know the secondary scan needs a bunch of foam
You asked randoms to take 4 snipers
ain't no way
they good at fighting and help you get shit done in a 2 man 2 bot scnenario but even then they struggle
10cc need to refine them a little bit more
im more interested in how the sniper sentries would perform, not even interested in how other players will do atm
@fierce oracle 
Unless you take sentry cpu speed, sniper sentry is next to useless
yeah i agree
Not really but ok
Against chargers it is better without question
put it outside
with the right placement of four sniper sentries, you can stagger them at a bottleneck long enough to reach the tank
Eh i dont even use the sniper sentry so im just chatting shit. I dunno how to use it
You place it on the floor
Im a mine main
And it shoots
yeah i think its shit too man, but for that room i think it could help
burst doesnt do a goddamn thing
😳
sniper sen so good in d2 😭
🤜
Noone out here using mines on d2
almost like it's r5 again
I wonder when they'll remove sniper sentry
What lobbies are you in where no one uses mines
yeah i never see a lobby without mines lol not even A1
Clearly you dont own an airfryer
Airfryers are for commies
Airfryers are just ovens
that's racist
No u
I mean lmao
your not wrong
for real made me stop to think about it
wait a convection oven is an oven?
With regards to cosmetics (Prisoner Apparel Requisition)
is there any apparel tied to the 4th skull? (idk what it's called)
is that what's it called?
but yeah that one
No
yeah no sorry, i didnt get shit
cool, I've been told it's rather painful to do
Maybe one day
Could you compare the sniper to the hel-gun and the special revolver? Do all serve a similar purpose?
No
Sniper is titan clear and boss DPS, HEL gun and revolver are wave clear and sustained damage.
what do syringes do?
.t syringe
What each syringe does: The red one gives you health, but also infection, the yellow/green one buffs your melee for short time, also gives you infection.
thanks! :D
Far from it.
- SNIPER: most efficient AND best giant killer
- REVOLVER: most (practically speaking) efficient gun to kill small guys, it was around 17-18 kills per refill, and most guns float around 9-11
- HEL gun: best horde shreder has it got 4 pen, and REALLY efficient if you pen
revolver is poopoo
You’re poopoo
touche
It is great, just a skill issue,
And that heavyar is bae 
Goddamn 15 kills per refill, stagger on each shot monster
I like to call it a pistol on drugs
It would damn op as primary
If giants weren't a thing i'd probably run it more often
I doubt anyone would run it as a primary
its really weak if you're not hitting every single shot
I can assure you 90% would. Stats wise it shreds any primary out there, even hel rev with pen
every bullet you miss is one missed kill
Primaries float around an efficency of 10, and none can 1 hit kill (unless you trow boosters in)
Can other weapons blast open locks like the revolver?
Any can
O
every gun can open locks
just depends on how many hits
the rev is going to be like the dmr
its a great weapon but unless you're hitting every single shot consistently it won't be as useful
doesn't help that the iron sights cover half the screen
6 shots per mag is also dangerous
I just wish I could’ve used the hel gun as a slightly less powerful sniper. If it’s only useful for getting collaterals, then I’ll have to stick with what I got.
its recoil also makes it hard to defend against multiple enemies in your face unlike ars
That's 6 potential kills, which is good for a primary. Only downside is that you need to be accurate
thats a pretty big downside
can sniper 1 shot big dudes
just wait for the hel rifle return and life will be sunshine and rainbows
Yes, in the head
poggars
And the most efficient gun at doing so
they took the HEL rifle away from me 
can shotguns do it too, in da face
man there are more to weapons than just stats
not shotguns
at least 2 probably 3 shots with normal shotgun
Doesn’t the hel gun still one shot the basic grunts?
and can't miss a single shot
yeah to the head
Only for strikers
what
Yeah.
oh yeahh
It does 127 dmg. The shooters and hybrids got 150
You can do it to the head technically, but it doesn't feel super realistic to me.
well there aren't much cases where you would run it over the sniper
definitely effective
but other than D2 I would rather run a sniper
you can't run halfway into a wave to scattergun a giant
Sniper for what
It's going to be playstyle dependent.
For solo stuff on D3 I'd definitely always run scatter.
solo?
It's also a bit more reliable for shadow titans.
well solo has quite a different dynamic than squads
oh I see
well yeah
but having a sniper is far more useful than a scattergun for the reactor
your teammates can deal with the titans but without the sniper hybrids are going to do work
Sure, it's better at clearing HPTs for waves.
I’m just a big fan of the “unconventional weapon” stereotype. Yknow what I mean, weapons that shouldn’t work from a tactically sound standpoint, and yet…do
I wanna stray away from the meta guns, but I don’t wanna handicap myself too hard, y’know?
If you want off meta, do sawed off & revolver
Ooooooh, that sounds fun!
if you're cool, you can just bait hybrid melee then one headshot scatter it when it's doing the animation
reminds me of kf2 takedowns but >scatter bleh
guise we suck at R6D4 can anyone give some general pointers
[7:55 PM]
we alwasy die at the surge alarm
Save as many doors as possible, especially the 3 connected to the surge room.
When you're ready for the surge, wait for an error wave to spawn and, while fighting it, shut all of the doors and c-foam the three nearest the surge alarm.
You may need to refoam partway through.
You can also spend extra foam on the floor.
It's easiest, imo, to do it this way since you make the most of the global CD on enemies breaking doors and you ideally don't fight anything until the very last scan, if at all.
that did not feel like it was etter
we basically did that
cfoam and mines on all three, killed first wave before we started the scan
as soon as we got to 20% a mega wave came and ruined us
On the first scan?
Foam higher, and spread it out more.
If you put it in a big clump low on the door enemies can clip into it and the door loses all of the health that foam added.
Even if they focused one door, it literally can't break that quickly without shenanigans.
hang on
so you foam on the ground
behind the closed door
to delay them even attacking ti?
Nah you foam yee mom ye
yeah taht
Lmao
??? You foam the door.
i feel like don't understand how foam works
If you put it too low, enemies can absorb it as if they ran through it on the ground when they clip into the door.
Which removes it from the door
Which is bad.
Where are you putting the foam?
maybe in the wrong place then
i had mine
old m8 wioth the foam was putting it middle
is that too low?
Probably too low, and there's a good chance it's congealing into one big ball.
Yes, spreading it makes it very unlikely that more than 1 or 2 balls will be lost to enemy clipping BS.
And if it's high up it basically never happens.
Yep. Multiple balls instead of a few or one combined ball, high up to reduce the chances of enemies colliding with it.
haven't used foam yet but this will be useful for the future thank you
The main thing I'm hearing from your story is "door broken at 20% through first scan," which is an obscenely short amount of time for enemies to reach you.
One big part of it is having the doors sealed while some of your team are still fighting the wave. Two of the doors lead to the same room so you can foam and mine one of those while enemies are still spawning. When a wave spawns your cfoam and mine guys should run to the OPPOSITE direction of where the wave spawned and seal that door, then go back to the final door as your other 2 team-mates have finished clearing up the last of the wave.
If you wait until the wave is dead to shut all 3 doors then you'll have enemies banging on them again before you start the alarm
how come my weapon/tool % hud doesn't sync with the map hud when I use ammo/tool kits if that makes sense
Think thats just a bug that occurs sometimes, can be pretty annoying. It can also happen for your teammates ammo on the map screen, I think what I've noticed is it copies the values from one teammates ammo on to anothers, so two players will have the same numbers displayed but only one is correct
yep it happens for teammates as well, atleast with their sentries, I fill them up but the number doesn't change
If you notice it happening ask them what they have in case you were going to fill them up inefficiently
I've been wasteful with ammo a few times because of this
will do
we did try this but we had no luck keeping them up until the scan after we did all six doors
also what is opinion on biotracker? as far as i can tell its useless
we always die in the fights
six doors?
biotracker is a godsend but on d4 i'd go cfoam mines burst burst
Cring
Normally when I've run D4 we take Bio, Mine, Cfoam, Burst (thats what we will take by default unless the level demands something different). But you could take a second burst instead of a bio if you don't get much value from it
They're not using the bio well if they're not getting value from it
I mean, you know you can ping enemies with the bio @gleaming trench ? 😅 If you're doing that in combat and not finding it useful 🤷
Try to refoam if you can, they often will stack on mostly one door, so it will take most of the damage.
But also there are only 3 doors you need to worry about, I'm not sure what other 3 you are doing but they are a waste of your time and you should only fortify the doors of the room the alarm is in
Especially since there's so much tool available.
Most of them are trivial to at least shut, which is a nice way of buying extra time.
my humble one: leave the southeast door open, sentry the long narrow corridor, cfoam floor for those that get thru
They'll still try to come in behind you, though.
I do think the funnel is a dumb strat if you're not already having an easy time.
yep, cfoam mine west door, cfoam floor east, keep foaming floor while scan .. dumb or not, we got thru that surge with it 4 times
Funnelling does seem like especially hard work on a surge alarm, but hey if it works for you
i don't think i'm smart at all 🙂
My point is just that this is probably the harder strategy, just because you're committing to fighting them sooner and they flank you a lot more easily.
It's just easier, imo, to foam all of the doors and either refoam or foam the shit out of the ground to maximize your leeway.
the small error wave can play hell w/ the doors before the surge begins, as they pointed out already
that east door open, the middle door gets left alone and can be reused in the end
To its credit though it has a better worst case scenario. If you're just consolidating all the doors and you're slow and they break in early you aren't as well prepared for whats coming in. With hirnu's strats you already acknowledge they are coming in and are ready for it (although from behind could be annoying)
back later u can close the east door, open the middle, then as you do what you have to do, walk thru the middle door and close it, nade/foam it etc
My main experience trying multiple funnels trats on D4 was that east funnel was horrible if we weren't super on our game.
When we committed to foaming all three doors, it just kind of came together, global CD is just that strong.
yea it wasn't easy, bad rng does a big wave west and blah
whatever works
hopefully big grease got some pointers and soon reports success
i just follow leader strats
Has anyone ever mined a mother out of existance? 
Someone did on R4
with like 100 mines
or more
do you have to beat every objective at once in a mission to get all the cosmetics
or can you do them separately
separately works also
100 is severely overkill
14 well-placed mines and some luck should do the trick
a lot of luck actually
especially with the shitty pathing of moms
oh my go
are you serious???

yeah moms are killable with mines but sometimes the mines just don't hit all of the blobs, since they're not all above but also behind each other (horizontal, not vertical like with dads)
so if all the mines triggered on the first half of her blobs and her second half didn't get hit, welp
Imma just place more than 100 and make an obstacle course 
Mines should trigger when a player passes them too, would be more realistic 😉
Then you could make some fun mission impossible courses
No
This is supposed to be a hardcore game, Merv
Maybe next rundown 🙂
to kill mom with mines, you need 7 mines and hit the blobs
same as Tank
for pMother, 20 or 22
Mmh.. kaboom it is
does anyone know how i can fix the bug where a bot only has melee
Do you play modded? Sometimes the bot settings can get stuck with modded settings. if you look in the modded faq it will tell you how to revert them
ok
???? theres mods?
Yes, normally avoided talking here because dev no likey
People make custom levels for fun
modtly
mostly
Yes
usually separate them so the official server don't get swarm with mod talks
and some people will ask for help about mod in official server, and some mods or people don't know about how to fix it.
It is unforunate sometimes people play modded and then think there is bug from base game
When it is the mod fault
I mean
But it is what it is
Yes, if you know what the bug is before hand
Otherwise the cheese guy like above just does not know why the bot can't take weapon
I find bugs every week
Ain't gonna list'em all
onii-chan intensifies
that's why you either remove mod the confirmed it yourself
or you ask the modding server
yeah if they're legit in-game bugs report it to the dev's
any advice for B2? after getting the sample and having to run to extraction it seems literally impossible
the motion sensor door you have to go through
with enemies still coming from behind as well
You just have to mine the blood door
If you need or want to, have someone fight waves while the other 3 fuck around the blood door
o.o we don't have mines
Paen
mistakes were made
If you don't have any mines, I'd clear the enemy wave behind, pull the blood door and hold point in the previous room or at least outside of the fog
we restarted so we have a mine launcher
So is the Tigris just now an exclusive thing?
How good is the special weapon hel-gun?
Pretty good
Ok
one of the best
You guys know everything about this game, what actions cause the “cant do this” noise
if the tile provides
hel gun is a solid weapon made even more solid by certain expeditions like d2
Best horde shreder if used with pen in mind
In this rundown at least
Pen in mind? Wdym
It has a pen value of 4, which means it can hit up to 4 sleepers per bullet
Pen = penetration
As long as you use said pen, it shreds hordes more than anything else
Bare in mind it kills in 2 hits, or 1 headshot
Hel gun is busted - easily the best non-boss killing special this rundown imo. Add 24% special damage and it kills strikers in 1 shot.
Danggggggggg
Where do you go if you want to farm Artifacts?
a1 easiest farm


