and what is the timing window after the first person hit's it to where it's invincible
#gtfo-related-questions
static dove
smoky mist
Or 2 people with scatters/ shotguns/ snipers can sync shoot
Or yellow syringe can 1 tap with hammer spear
And about 1 second
static dove
i can get it with sniper one shot
warm yew
and what is the timing window after the first person hit's it to where it's invi...
Like... 0.2 seconds
smoky mist
i can get it with sniper one shot
If there’s 2 scoots in the room
You have to shoot them at same time
static dove
oooooh alright i misunderstood
static dove
well there's a mother in this room as well so it would be preferable to just take them both out at once
smoky mist
Oh d2
smoky mist
Just go charger error side lol
warm yew
Yes
static dove
we just hated 194 and so we're like "hey 201 can't be that bad can it?"
smoky mist
Loud and fast or slow and quiet lol the error side has a class 5
finite plinth
it's more lenient now for meleeing charger scouts because it staggers
but you have to compensate its movement
warm yew
You can go for mother/baby door > baby blood door > Normal blood door > moving scan > Infectious beeg charger zone (0 terminals) > Multi charger scout door (2 terminals) > Checkpoint or straight for the error door
smoky mist
I find it more sensible to do error first then cp
rigid sinew
like 4 I think
warm yew
Its an option if you're not familiar with the error route
static dove
we did the two doors with babies already
finite plinth
3-4
static dove
205 and 206 i think?
smoky mist
If you’re going to do extreme I’d cp after
warm yew
Do the blood door that needs a key for another terminal
smoky mist
But more than one way to skin a snake
warm yew
Ebic
static dove
probably going to do the error alarm because i prefer that to stealth
smoky mist
Yes
warm yew
Its an all charger error so just shoot everything : )))
smoky mist
Try to save the door
static dove
which door?
smoky mist
Makes class 5 pretty easy just perma foam and any
warm yew
Door to the right after opening the error
smoky mist
If u open one they will run through it
finite plinth
if you're cool you can just solo the charger waves with a hel gun and a 4 use ammo
static dove
oh is there an alarm in error zone
smoky mist
But when u do the scan I think they come from ur left
finite plinth
that's a better use of resources
smoky mist
Yes class 5
static dove
alright that's not terrible
static dove
do you have to do it while the error alarm is going?
smoky mist
Yes
floral acorn
32 small rings, not bad
smoky mist
Oh was it clusters lmao
floral acorn
helguns galore
static dove
i have an SMG and a sniper
static dove
i mean it was a trial run anyways it's my first time playing D2
smoky mist
Future reference lol
floral acorn
once u get 7/9, go SE for the spitter scan class iii.. after it 3 players can go to extract already, while 1 gets 8 and 9
smoky mist
U got this. We triod d2 ext no cheese
warm yew
Multi charger scout zone is good for practice : )))
rapid creek
ok how does one insta kill a scout or giant stealthily?
floral acorn
even if something bad happens while getting 9, they wont reach the 3 in time to stop extract..
smoky mist
Do they give yellow syringes in d2 I only went mother side once lol
static dove
alright we died pretty good
ideally we play with actual people and not two bots
what's the ideal loadout for D2?
floral acorn
1h 2b scan and other human helguns the waves
floral acorn
scanner human might not wanna go into a ring but between rings, that way bots might do more closeby rings
static dove
sorry but what in the flizzy does 1h 2b mean
floral acorn
1 human 2 bots
static dove
oh alright
smoky mist
Assumes I’m human
floral acorn
not fun but doable
smoky mist
static dove
it's not the alarm i'm concerned about, that's easy, you just perma cfoam the one door
probably anyway
seems like the best option to me
finite plinth
sniper sentry in d2 good
smoky mist
One shots
floral acorn
after the alarm its mostly done, some pew pew left before deactivate_alarm
smoky mist
But ammo goes by quick with that many chargers lol
finite plinth
please shoot big chargers
smoky mist
PLEASE
finite plinth
instead of participating in a staring contest
smoky mist
It’s fine the bot will melee it
static dove
wait why would we not shoot them
finite plinth
ask lfg
static dove
It’s fine the bot will melee it
TRUE
smoky mist
No he’s memeing game mechanics lol
static dove
that's a thing that happens?
static dove
bots are literally just like, "reactor, nah, who said it was a reactor, i'm gonna melee this big striker rq"
smoky mist
Giants= bot checker
shrewd dirge
i think i figured out why jumping helps
its like a natural down drag shot, so you're less likely to hit the chest.
i figured out why not jumping is annoying also.
i tend to either hit the chest or the arms
overall, cant really tell if they're easier or harder
but an overall good change
mossy aurora
for respawn rooms its 2 rooms away and a different zone, correct?
minor fractal
for respawn rooms its 2 rooms away **and** a different zone, correct?
Yep.
spring kiln
Heyo, I played this game when it still had early access on it still (probably half a year when it finally became 1.0)
Just curious if all those technical movement tricks/older guides still work.
noble sierra
A fair amount of movement tricks are removed/reworked.
fierce oracle
More so removed
Sliding preserves stamina instead of giving move speed
But judging by the fact that they removed the bonus move speed, I think the stamina conservation is an oversight
mossy aurora
Ah so don't look up old guides, gotcha
some of the concepts from those videos still apply, you just have to know which ones dont apply anymore (bhopping, long kiting without utilizing pathing, strafe dodge, to name a few)
floral pecan
i think i figured out why jumping helps
My idea is cause it is a reliable way to get your crosshair on the head, plus what you mentioned. I don't do it with normal scouts usually, but on shadows i cannot count on my aim as much
mossy aurora
also, knife has delayed hit still i think, thats why jumping helps
so even if you extend the hit with your reticle above the head, as you drop down it will swipe the head
hollow charm
can you go on a 5% sale, just maybe because i have a balance of 38.97 literally 1.02 off
floral pecan
don't think they ever made a sale on this game 
may be wrong
nevermind it is cheaper on 3rd party sites, they probably did
steel valley
they do on every rundown release lol
regal heron
any reccomendations on what loadout to use in D1?
wary linden
@mossy aurora bhopping doesn't seem to be fully removed. I still managed to do 3 sprint bhop (just to be clear. This is 3 consecutive hops while sprinting) without waking up stuff. Though it seems to be way harder to execute. There might be some other stuff i need to check too. Some testing is required cause i can't reproduce this constantly but i did manage it a couple of time
ruby wasp
As long as someone uses a sniper, should be good
cfoam + mine will help for the 2nd part
don't pick autosentry
wary linden
C foam os useless on D1
minor fractal
^ You get so many nades.
wary linden
Reactor gives you 3 c-foam grenade which is enough c-foam for the level
ruby wasp
Never got 3 cfoam grenades 😔
Probably missed them out
In that case a second sentry should do the job
icy nacelle
any reccomendations on what loadout to use in D1?
Bring atleast one Sniper. More if you feel comfortable and want to make the ||boss at the end|| easier
2x Bursts + 1x Mine + 1x Bio is probably a good tool loadout. As mentioned you don't really need C-Foam since the game gives you a bunch of nades early on, though if it makes you feel more comfortable you could still bring it
While backtracking is a pain, keep in mind that you'll most likely end up leaving a kit or two at the reactor early on. You can always go back there for it if you feel your resources are lacking later on in the level.
Unrelated to loadout but I would recommend simply clearing out the Warden door room at the start of the level since you'll be getting plenty of resources to make up for what you lost even before the reactor
shrewd dirge
you really dont need to clear out the giant room, simply to the fact that you might not come out of the reactor with everyone at 100% 100% 100%
if you take excess damage in the giant rooms
its also so early in the level that you dont really need to worry about fucking up
wary linden
- if you fuck up in the class 6 alarm. You can pull that respawn room to have easier kiting time to revive a team. Giant are slower then regulars afterall :p
shrewd dirge
better off just standing your ground most of the time tbh
wary linden
Depends of the situation
icy nacelle
Oh I should make it clear, the "giant room" I'm referring to is the room with the Warden door. Not the actual giant room, oops
shrewd dirge
so do you mean the respawn room or the not respawn room
icy nacelle
the not-respawn room
wary linden
How would you do the class 6 alarm without clearing that room? Lol
icy nacelle
I meant clearing it at the start as opposed to later
shrewd dirge
fuck if i know, anything not respawn room gets bumrushed by my parties out of sheer bloodlust
wary linden
Too much resources in R6
icy nacelle
mostly just so you don't have the mistake of someone running into that room forgetting that it's not fully cleared and end up triggering everything right at the end which is what my mates did, and then they ran into the respawn room and triggered those as well 
shrewd dirge
pretty sure my parties were doing the same shit in r5, except for that one giant zone in d1, or the sscout/shadow zones.
icy nacelle
I'm pretty sure there's a difference though in sheer bloodlust vs. absolute stupidity
wary linden
The game always had too much resources. R6 just cranked it up even more
shrewd dirge
I'm pretty sure there's a difference though in sheer bloodlust vs. absolute stup...
reasonable statement tbh
icy nacelle
especially when the initial trigger, of all things,
was one of them walking into a big Striker and getting immediately punted
how do you miss a big Striker when the lights are on
shrewd dirge
nothing better than a partial alert that end with everyone clapping the giant that woke.
shrewd dirge
ssadge
icy nacelle
their immediate first instinct everytime is to slowly back away
wary linden
So cowards then?
icy nacelle
bads yes
wary linden
Also. The moment they realize that there is too much resources is the moment they'll start shooting more instead of trying to melee stuff
icy nacelle
one of them does do that yes
which did hilariously result in him shooting me in the back with a revolver the other day
wary linden
I mean that is your problem. Not his
If there are more then 5 enemies awake. There is no reason not to shoot
icy nacelle
oh, they weren't awake
shrewd dirge
tfw my gun was doing that thing where its slow to take out, and i thought i had my knife out to break a lock, and i pump rounds into a sleeping room of mothers.
icy nacelle
this was a room we had just entered, there were two Strikers immediately asleep next to each other so I just went to bonk both
and then he shot me in the back, and triggered the whole room as well
wary linden
Hey he is finally learning that you can shoot everything in r6 and not be punished for it
icy nacelle
I couldn't tell whether he was being funny or just stupid, both are entirely possible with him
icy nacelle
it is true, especially with him
I've seen him waste two full clips of Revolver ammo just to kill the last shooter and then I'm like, just run up and bonk it at that point
wary linden
Let him train his aim
icy nacelle
another reason why I want him to try to go and solo some stuff, practice it without doing that in the middle of our actual attempts
wary linden
Solo runs are boring to some people
floral pecan
i practice on shadow scouts while doing D3 PE 
thin pine
do scouts have to fully retract their tendrils before they become invulnerable or not?
floral pecan
do scouts have to fully retract their tendrils before they become invulnerable o...
yes, about 1.5 sec and they retract them quite fast
that means given you can get close enough, you can just sprint into the tentacles and melee her
rigid sinew
it's usually a window large enough to run through mildly extended tendrils and bonk it
minor fractal
do scouts have to fully retract their tendrils before they become invulnerable o...
No, not really, they have to initiate their scream which they can do through the tail of most animations.
So, if you stagger a shooter, it will usually do a full animation where it's not able to do anything else. Scouts will get partway through that animation, and then initiate their scream while the animation is still happening, which makes them invuln.
The retract animation especially barely has a window to it.
rigid sinew
i think they become in invincible once you hear a little squish sound they make
stoic breach
if you mean the slurp yes
minor fractal
Did the shotgun limb destruction interaction get changed?
minor fractal
How do you list items of a specific room?
You cannot, zone only.
Unless you mean by zone.
You have to ping it to learn the room it's in.
floral pecan
Did the shotgun limb destruction interaction get changed?
what do you mean by that?
minor fractal
Hm, it doesn't seem to have actually been changed, unless it's host/client related.
minor fractal
what do you mean by that?
If you blow off a limb w/ a shotgun, only the pellets that destroyed it connect and the rest blow through.
floral pecan
sounds about right. I've noticed while testing the SMG (the one with 4 burst) that when you are client, some more bullets can land before limbs do break
so that may be what's happening, given these bullets hit almost at the same time
stoic breach
Like Zone_277E
List [item/res] Zone_#
floral pecan
which is why some people were telling me "i can 2 burst strikers" when i was looking at the numbers and being like "uh?"
minor fractal
I noticed it when baby killing on client, pump wasn't doing it like I'm used to.
I had to get an angle above to make it work.
earnest pulsar
<@&408548765599793173>
neon moss
When's the next Run Down released?
earnest pulsar
no one knows
neon moss
Fair enough, i was just curious thanks
earnest pulsar
probably the devs don't even know because they want new people to learn and then they have to make the next one
shrewd dirge
not at least for 3-4 months probs
grizzled widget
is the pink player skin exclusive to rundown six?
(like, will it be obtainable after)
shrewd dirge
hmm, who knows
but it is tied to specific completions and isnt in the random pool
so maybe not.
floral pecan
uh? how do you get the pink one?
grizzled widget
uh? how do you get the pink one?
100% the rundown
shrewd dirge
its either d4, or full clear
grizzled widget
it's full clear.
floral pecan
oh i am close then, just missing D4
fleet vessel
full clear I believe
grizzled widget
did d4, didn't get it until i finished the other two i was missing
shrewd dirge
aite.
fleet vessel
oh i am close then, just missing D4
now you too can't tell us whether it's full clear or D4 xD
but yeah, pink ftw
floral pecan
nope, i also have all PEs and secondaries done
shrewd dirge
what other color combos would you like to see?
fleet vessel
pink is only main done on everything, right?
grizzled widget
pink is the only one
fleet vessel
what other color combos would you like to see?
dark green or some purple, tbh
grizzled widget
for doing every mission
fleet vessel
but those are just my fav colors
shrewd dirge
black and white? Green and purple? Orange and mint?
grizzled widget
only other is 'destination' for doing all the a1b1c1d1 esc missions.
shrewd dirge
honestly, some of the outfit palettes are pretty crusty. a shiny minty weapon would be a lot nicer tbh.
grizzled widget
All I wanted this rundown was pants
oh no..
shrewd dirge
the best time to wear a striped sweater
grizzled widget
I never got pants :/
forever wearing the short shorts and discount nike's, eh?
carmine steppe
forever wearing the short shorts and discount nike's, eh?
That is my fate
shrewd dirge
pegleg crystals when
grizzled widget
That is my fate
did you do ALL the missions?
carmine steppe
did you do ALL the missions?
Yup, I'm all cleared too 😂
carmine steppe
lol
grizzled widget
guess you gotta wait for r6.5 or r7 and pray.
carmine steppe
🙏
grizzled widget
i have like 7 helmets, 1 pant, 1 chest, 1 backpack, and like 9 color schemes
carmine steppe
Who do I have to sacrifice for some pants?
grizzled widget
i got lucky with the pants though, i got Sharp Teeth
the peg leg made of scrap metal
not the wierd looking normal peg leg.
carmine steppe
Yeah that one is pretty cool
sharp escarp
Which extraction is easier? C1 or B2?
sharp escarp
Yes, I'm asking if C1 is easier than B2
jaunty bear
hum
shrewd dirge
b2 with secondary might be harder than c1.
with only main, b2 might be easier.
solid spear
C1 got a moving scan with a fuck ton of enemies coming down stairs my strat is 3 looking in front 1 in the back because enemies do come from behind
sharp escarp
Okay, thank you. Back to doing B2 for 4th time 👀
solid spear
But that only happens like twice
So the player at the back can switch between front and back
Eh B2 is easier then i guess
shrewd dirge
c1 is probably easier when you know the game and can actually shoot.
solid spear
Yes
pale locust
7 hour playtime doesnt make it any easier 
solid spear
But jesus there is a point i think around the 55% till 70% mark is where the stairs go up and then left that's where i died the first time with my crew
shrewd dirge
tfw party had scan boosters and nearly finished the scan before seeing an enemy.
stoic breach
Get the squad to roll up with 120% bioscan speed and finish on the corner.
fleet vessel
But jesus there is a point i think around the 55% till 70% mark is where the st...
there's 2 corners at the end that can go to hell quick, the death-corner at like 88-92% (usually a hybrid says hello here too) and at like 70% before that
fleet vessel
we died twice but figured out how to do it at the end
jaunty bear
i just chucked bioscan boosters on whenever i do c1 lul
fleet vessel
cfoam nade the staircase, deal with a wave, move up and keep the shots going
with 4 players you can probably have a third sentry at that point that can act as a backup-sentry for exactly the end, making it even more trivial
vocal cliff
anyone know if specific levels grant better booster rewards? or is that totally random?
shrewd dirge
booster rewards are standard, but accrued differently based on missions current heat
some levels have less artifacts to pick up sometimes, but its generally consistent.
vocal cliff
@shrewd dirge thank you
rigid sinew
7 hour playtime doesnt make it any easier <a:HackettDAB:868469047266775060>
one thing is being new
another thing is being bad at videogames
rigid sinew
git gud is the way then
solid spear
I smell skill issue
fleet vessel
tbf, GTFO is a really bad game to have someone who is generally bad at video games or never played video games start on.
shrewd dirge
honestly, i'd disagree
games significantly more accessible than PVP games or BR bullshit
if you can aim and walk at the same time you're good enough.
solid spear
gtfo is a fresh change of pace when i got it
Thats why i enjoy games like insurgency sandstorm, GTFO and much more this BR bullshit has taken over and it's plagueing most games now
fleet vessel
if you can aim and walk at the same time you're good enough.
yea but even that is already a lot for people who literally never had gaming interactions before.
Like, the amount of people I know irl who'd not be able to aim whilst walking is insane, so games like GTFO aren't absolute-beginner-friendly.
If you can aim and shoot, GTFO's an excellent party game, provided you're not scared of failure.
fleet vessel
Thats why i enjoy games like insurgency sandstorm, GTFO and much more this BR bu...
agreed tbh
stoic breach
yea but even that is already a lot for people who *literally never had gaming in...
And that's perfectly fine if they can't aim and shoot.
I'll become more jaded, but I hope people improve at this game.
wary linden
even if you can't aim, you can still play this game just fine
shrewd dirge
look dude, my first PC shooter was combat arms at 12 fps.
if you cant pick this basics up in like 6 days, you're hopeless.
wary linden
my aim sucks ass. still beating levels like it's ok
strong hazel
Uh, so my friend and I are trying to play together, but it seems like whenever we party up and then set the last two slots to matchmaking, one of us gets booted. Is this intentional, or a bug, or something else?
solid spear
agreed tbh
Sand storm got some community interaction but not a lot but GTFO holy shit i can not believe it if you want to talk to a developer you can and they will maybe respond
And the game is coop so ima not say no to it
wary linden
Uh, so my friend and I are trying to play together, but it seems like whenever w...
sounds like a bug to me.
shrewd dirge
Uh, so my friend and I are trying to play together, but it seems like whenever w...
he does own the game correct?
strong hazel
Fair enough I suppose.
shrewd dirge
my reccomendation is try to instead of matchmaking in game, use the LFG channel and see if you can get him into a party size greater than 2
jaunty bear
@strong hazel try switching hosts
shrewd dirge
@strong hazel
jaunty bear
if not, verifying integrity always works
sharp whale
What is the secondary of C3?
solid spear
Why matchmake if you could just copy code to clipboard lol
fleet vessel
What is the secondary of C3?
generators, and the cells are - you guessed it - partway in the fog at the other end of the map. Or, almost the other end.
sharp whale
bruh
fleet vessel
aka have fun carrying that whilst waves.
also, apparently hybrids will now spawn during the waves? Heard others talk about that
solid spear
Huh
shrewd dirge
always been like that
solid spear
Oh wait yeahv
sharp whale
not gonna lie doing the overload sounds easier than that
fleet vessel
*the "now spawn during the waves" meant that now that extreme is open they'll do that
fleet vessel
not gonna lie doing the overload sounds easier than that
yes, but no.
frankly, ||tank error lite|| is harder than just some cell carrying whilst defending against waves.
Of course, if you want to go for PE you'll have to do overload first - that is truly painful, but as long as your team knows how to kill ||the dads|| you'll be fine
solid spear
not gonna lie doing the overload sounds easier than that
C3PE is easy
solid spear
frankly, ||tank error lite|| is harder than just some cell carrying whilst defen...
You don't even have to wake the tank up
shrewd dirge
my party just blasts the f out of him
fleet vessel
You don't even have to wake the tank up
I called it ||tank error lite|| for a reason, a single one of em isn't bad and you don't need to wake it up^^
only doing overload without actually getting the key means no tanks, but you'll have to clear up to the end to get the key meant for extreme, then go back into the fog. Not sure if that really makes sense^^
solid spear
I don't remember i did it once and never again
fleet vessel
||I'm reasonably certain - both from chat and multiple deaths against the second or third tank - that a new one spawns every 10 minutes. Not quite a tank error, but the lite version of it - and as such, unless your team can kill tanks reasonably well, it can get difficult.|| My team i.e. still panics everytime we see one of those, but we're figuring it out 
shrewd dirge
honestly, i've had several times where a second tank never spawns. i dont know why
solid spear
I only had 2 Tanks for my run the one sleeping and the one spawning after doing an objective
noble sierra
It supposed to be a 10 minute timer, but prior to patch, if you used the checkpoint, the tank will never spawn.
wary linden
It supposed to be a 10 minute timer, but prior to patch, if you used the checkpo...
the trade of of that bug though was double spawn waves 🤣
shrewd dirge
that shit made for a wild clear
tacit zealot
It is 2 tanks, 1 after 8 min and one after 23 min, after you finish the overload objective
Unless checkpoint fucks it up
solid spear
Eh
tacit zealot
normally these times are offset depending when you do overload, sometimes waves can queue it back a few minutes, and it can spawn really far back sometimes so depending on your progress it can take ages to get to you
wary linden
unless they changed it, it should be 10 minutes after overload scan for the first tank
i have run that map way to much. so much that i can get a consistant time with some of my friend. the overload terminal scan is done at 24:40 (that means it is finished) and the tank show up at 14:40
tacit zealot
It's 8 minutes, but the timer starts after you finish the scan
480 seconds in the code
tacit zealot
I could get the release datablocks and check that
as i said the tank gets pushed back by wave queus and spawns far back as well
It's iffy
wary linden
even if it gets push back, it's always was a constant 10 min
so maybe it was 8 min, but it's so constant on the push back that he show up at the 10 min mark always
tacit zealot
You mean it always shows up at 10:00 on the timer?
wary linden
no. 10 minutes exactly after you are done with the overload scan
solid spear
so maybe it was 8 min, but it's so constant on the push back that he show up at ...
Maybe because of all that walking ya know
wary linden
i doubt it took the tank, who RUN at you if you are too far away, 2 minute to reach the players
solid spear
Yes
tacit zealot
It can take a while.
solid spear
Yes
I mean the players constantly on a move
And i do say that level is a fucking mess all these ups and downs lol
wary linden
except that you are on your way back around that time. you should be either going to open the extreme bulkhead, or going for that DC scan
tacit zealot
i play c3 yesterday, tank spawn when we finish putting cell in secondary, we manage to dodge it and run all the way to the end, and it only catch up to us on the extract scan
wary linden
it's one of the rare time where the enemies spawns where you are going in that level
because you are backtracking
wary linden
i play c3 yesterday, tank spawn when we finish putting cell in secondary, we man...
you are talking about the 2nd tank here though
tacit zealot
Yes. normally i fight the first tank when we get to secondary
I am just saying that the tank can take long time to reach players some time
noble sierra
Seems it is 10/23 minutes for the tank after overload.
mossy aurora
i had a 15 minute tank spawn couple of days ago in c3, just to give you a range of the possible timings
neon gust
Do we have gtfo coca cola flavor yet
wary linden
maybe one day
shrewd dirge
can i have something to eat ?
wary linden
nah, only drinks
neon gust
wack
solid spear
Damn lol does the characters even eat in the game or is food nonexistence
floral acorn
they go back to their hsu and feed on the liquefied dead, intravenously, duh 🙂
floral acorn
that's post-apocalypse for ya, tasty soylent green iv yum
solid spear
shrewd dirge
inb4 we get infection granola bar that lets us boost our minimum health temporarily
shrewd dirge
believe it or not, this is the 2nd occurrence of that mistake
shrewd dirge
i mean, when was the last time they ate anything
topaz anvil
I havent had a smoothie in a while
toxic hazel
I haven't played the game in over a year and I'm checking it out again.
Can I get into a game without matchmaking? I'd rather go solo for a bit to test things out and not waste anyone's time
Oh wait, I think just found the "Host Lobby" option 😎
toxic hazel
Oh yeah I'm not trying to beat the actual game man,
solid spear
I do suggest bring a shotgun lol
toxic hazel
More like actually test controls, stealth mechanics, etc
shrewd dirge
I haven't played the game in over a year and I'm checking it out again.
Can I g...
yes, you even have bots to help you out. i dont recommend progressing with them.
solid spear
Stealthy mechanics have been the same we just have stamina now i guess
toxic hazel
Cool. Yeah, I'm purely just testing things out. Not trying to actually play for the sake of playing
solid spear
Damn so just checking and leaving
shrewd dirge
might even want to turn them off if you just want to bonk
toxic hazel
Well checking on the state of things so I can report back with the group that I played with before
solid spear
Its good
shrewd dirge
games better than the last rd.
minor fractal
The only real stealth changes are new melees and 0-charge kills being more precise (shooters) or requiring 30% charge (strikers).
solid spear
You mean spear only needs 30% charge
minor fractal
I don't know the numbers for spear.
solid spear
Spear is dog shit try the knife @toxic hazel
minor fractal
last I checked it needs more than hammer on average, though.
shrewd dirge
spear is basically only marginally better for scouts.
other than that, it struggles greatly with multikills, and is heavier.
topaz anvil
Spear is just a bad stick
shrewd dirge
so, ive got a question for once. you dont get the knife damage bonus as soon as the sleeper wakes right?
solid spear
@topaz anvil oi what is that expodition in your discord thingy
topaz anvil
<@194140960102416384> oi what is that expodition in your discord thingy
Why don't you read my profile
solid spear
so, ive got a question for once. you dont get the knife damage bonus as soon as ...
Don't know but i go sicko mode with it
shrewd dirge
oh good.
solid spear
Deletes it
topaz anvil
Well you cant discuss it here
shrewd dirge
there are no sleepers in ba sing se
solid spear
And?
topaz anvil
Wdym and
solid spear
I don't they'll get mad over a bit of sidetracked stuff
topaz anvil
The rules say we cant discuss it here so we removed our messages
solid spear
Mmm
topaz anvil
Since its about explicit mod content
solid spear
Ooo explicit
topaz anvil
As in informationally explicit not nsfw
shrewd dirge
tfw no scout nipples
topaz anvil
tfw no scout nipples
😔
solid spear
Lmao
solid spear
bright crater
whats a good loadout for a 3 man team, me and sum friends just started and wnt to know whats best
jaunty bear
depends on what mission youre doing
obsidian depot
Does anyone remember what the nerfs for R2B1, C1, C2 and D1 were?
bright crater
depends on what mission youre doing
are there any general loadouts or is it really specific?
finite plinth
hel revolver is always good
har, hel gun are always good
jaunty bear
use a combination of single target and crowd controllers
obsidian depot
machine pistol chokemod
finite plinth
bullpup and choke mod best loadout
minor fractal
Does anyone remember what the nerfs for R2B1, C1, C2 and D1 were?
For B1, the class IX was reduced to a class VII.
For C1, the maximum number of scouts was reduced, and there may have been a general reduction of enemies in several zones. *Uplinks and alarms w/ shadows were also made to spawn less of them, and the class V shadow alarm was reduced to a class III.
For C2, the fog alarm to access z115 was reduced from a class III alarm to a class II alarm.
For D1, the hybrid spawn-rate for alarms was reduced, the number of hybrids on blood doors was reduced to 2 from 4, and the final alarm was reduced from a class VI to a class V and had the rate at which fog rose considerably reduced (from the fog reaching above your head halfway through to the fog barely getting to that point by the time you were done).
*Forgot they made changes related to shadows for C1 as well.
fierce oracle
no
cerulean moth
Don’t get me wrong, I love a gun that goes brrrrt
fierce oracle
I too like spending half my mag for 1 kill
cerulean moth
It just seems like the sawed off shotgun performs better as a self defense weapon, as opposed to the machine pistol
Unless I’m using the machine pistol wrong?
minor fractal
MP is good at having a very sustainable burst with very limited range.
It's mainly hard to use effectively.
obsidian depot
Unless I’m using the machine pistol wrong?
its just dogwater
cerulean moth
Lmao
obsidian depot
gets outperformed by 90% guns in its niche
cerulean moth
Like I might as well use the base smg
fierce oracle
correct
the machine pistol is just another smg but with somehow less range and accuracy
cerulean moth
Sawed off shotgun honestly my personal fav so far.
Tomorrow i wanna try out the bullpup and maybe the low acc shotgun
minor fractal
the machine pistol is just another smg but with somehow less range and accuracy
I may be biased since I mained CS in R5, but the range trade-off isn't that big of a deal for the extra breath it affords imo. It's pretty close to R2 MP, which was rightly valued for being hard to utilize but fairly rewarding in return.
fierce oracle
I'd rather just have things actually die
minor fractal
Similar deal with the Varuta.
fierce oracle
instead of just spraying with a pea-shooter
minor fractal
It's not that hard to aim?
fierce oracle
it does a poor amount of damage
minor fractal
I'm distinctly bad at shooting in this game, and I found it possible to control for it moderately well.
fierce oracle
anything mid range isn't getting hit either
minor fractal
8 shots to kill a striker vs. 7 shots to kill a striker.
Depends on how much you need the range.
fierce oracle
with how fall off works in this game you always need the range
minor fractal
Not necessarily.
I might run it w/ HAR, or I might just not care about range and let things get close to me.
fierce oracle
yeah but thats the problem
why would i let them get close
when I can just kill them before they ever do
its not like any of the ranged primaries are bad at close range
minor fractal
Maybe you expect them to get close anyway, or your special covers you at greater range and you want MP to make space for you.
Maybe even just want to save ammo.
fierce oracle
saving ammo in R6
if im shooting them anyways im using bullets
but at 15 meters the mp loses almost a third of its damage
which is kinda devastating
most other primaries can kill part of a wave and reload before they get to you at that range
it's not like you can't be successful with it. there is just almost no reason to take it over something else when practically everything else can do the mp's job and more
minor fractal
Dunno about that, you can feel its RoF and reload.
If you don't really need the range in your main slot, it does its job.
Plus, this is a horde shooter, learn to backpedal.
fierce oracle
pistol and smg have 0.25s slower reload and better or similar kill times
hel revo kills faster, dmr kills faster
3 of those options have range that isn't crippling
all of them stagger crazy fast
all of them can kill better than it
minor fractal
I think this is more an issue that semi-autos are better than automatic weapons rn.
fierce oracle
it will probably always be like that tbh
minor fractal
Like, I could make the argument that SMG is just bad because pistol has comparable if not better range, better stagger, and a shorter TTK.
minor fractal
I don't think it's that simple, I'd like automatic weapons to see buffs (or semi-auto weapons to see nerfs) but I think it stands that automatic weapons are generally much easier to use well than semi-auto weapons.
Especially when they compensate body damage quite well.
Comparing MP to just other automatic weapons, it seems fine if not quite strong.
fierce oracle
but comparing mp to the entire arsenal of weapons it is quite weak
minor fractal
So is half of the arsenal.
by your standards
which I think are extremely reductive.
fierce oracle
im just looking at it practically
if you want the highest chance of success, you use whats good
minor fractal
You're doing exactly the opposite.
fierce oracle
if full auto weapons are weak in comparison to semi auto
then don't use auto weapons
minor fractal
You're ignoring how the weapons play, and what they depend on to function optimally, in order pick and choose the statistics that favor your position.
Again, extremely reductive, and not particularly realistic.
fluid acorn
Is c3 bugged with the waves spawning? We're getting 5-6 waves in 2 minutes.
It didnt do this at first but once we reset at the checkpoint it seems to add more waves every time. First reset was 2 waves on top of each other, next was 3-4, now we're at 6-8 waves spawning on top of each other. IDK what's going on
fierce oracle
Is c3 bugged with the waves spawning? We're getting 5-6 waves in 2 minutes.
It d...
checkpoint is bugged and makes waves stack up
fluid acorn
So first try or nothing?
fierce oracle
if you live through the checkpoint then you're fine
if you really don't think you can, then I'd just reset it
fluid acorn
How do we live through it? It's so many enemies
fierce oracle
thats the hard part
fluid acorn
F
fierce oracle
You're ignoring how the weapons play, and what they depend on to function optima...
all of the primaries function more or less the same, excluding the sawed off. The game doesn't have enough niches for the guns to fill. It's basically filtered down to stagger and kill guns
if guns do both things and do them better than others
then by comparison the guns that can't do them aren't as good
I don't see how that is picking and choosing statistics
minor fractal
all of the primaries function more or less the same, excluding the sawed off. Th...
The definition of "reductive."
fierce oracle
honest question, is there any other kind of niche that should be accounted for?
what does the mp offer that other guns dont?
minor fractal
Sure, there's usually a differentiation between guns that are good at doing damage or killing things quickly vs. guns that do damage or kill things over a longer period.
minor fractal
what does the mp offer that other guns dont?
An automatic weapon with greater burst damage that can recover its burst often with a shorter reload.
fierce oracle
carbine, burst rifle, and pistol have higher burst
pistol is near identical reload
better in all other stats
minor fractal
Burst rifle has a worse reload, carbine is dogshit, pistol is a semi-auto.
fierce oracle
the semi auto part is irrelevant
minor fractal
It absolutely is.
Burst-fire is relevant as well, but it is a bit closer to automatic than otherwise.
fierce oracle
if you really have a burning desire to use a full auto weapon, and really want a higher burst at short range, then mp is good
but the semi autos do burst damage better
and have better stats in other departments
so if someone is really hellbent on only using full auto stuff then sure
minor fractal
I can't stand semi-auto, personally.
and I doubt that's a particularly unique position.
fierce oracle
and thats fine. But from a practical stand point the weapon is still worse. Just cause someone doesn't like it, doesn't mean its worse
I don't intrinsically hate the gun, I just don't see a reason to use it when there are 4 other options that do it's job better
minor fractal
You're back to this unnuanced take again. Usability matters a lot for weapon viability, and motivations for choosing particular weapons.
You're literally recommending someone off of MP on the basis that it's "bad," I don't think you're accurately representing yourself.
fierce oracle
its because I don't think there is any nuance to the weapons
if you want to use whats good, then use whats good
if you don't like whats good then tough luck
the burst damage argument falls on its face because there are other guns that do it better
if you are hellbent on using a full auto, and want the burst damage, then mp is there
minor fractal
Sure, on weapons that demand higher accuracy for their burst.
finite plinth
man's out here arguing about what weapons to use when it'll never change each other's minds
fierce oracle
its cause I don't particularly care about preference
finite plinth
one day auto weapons will be good
fierce oracle
if you want to use whats good, then use whats good
.
minor fractal
Then don't make weapon recommendations.
fierce oracle
I'm recommending people use better stuff
you'd be lying if you said mp was better than hel revo
minor fractal
I don't think most people asking about weapon viability are asking "what weapon has the highest skill cap?"
fierce oracle
skill cap on guns is can you aim moderately well
they are all mechanically the same
and if the best requires a higher skill cap then get better
minor fractal
Even looking at stats alone, that's literally false.
Cool elitist take.
Very brave.
fierce oracle
it is literally that simple
you can use anything
if you aren't good enough to use the best thing and you want too
then get better
minor fractal
You're rambling.
Not sure what wanting to use the highest skill cap weapons has to do with people asking about weapons.
finite plinth
sawn off highest skill cap
minor fractal
Eh, I tend to feel it's the ones that require the highest accuracy (if they reward it). Currently BR and the semi-auto weapons for main weapons, for special weapons I'd probably say revolver, HEL gun, and sniper.
tawdry brook
Sooo flashlights seem to differ in usefulness depending on weapon, any recommended flashlights basically? i can defo see farther using the sniper one than the melee one by quite a bit
minor fractal
Sooo flashlights seem to differ in usefulness depending on weapon, any recommend...
Anything other than SMG, revolver, and pump shotgun, specifically to let you sync enemies in stealth.
You only need one good light, as well.
analog abyss
burst rifle vs carbine pros and cons?
minor fractal
burst rifle vs carbine pros and cons?
Burst rifle can two burst strikers, carbine cannot w/out lag. Carbine has a better reload. Burst rifle has better range.
weary mesa
Carbine has higher RoF
minor fractal
^
lapis mauve
burst rifle is a nice side grade to the assault rifle, carbine is a less nice side grade to the smg lol
tawdry brook
So playing with bots ping is basically useless?
mossy aurora
So playing with bots ping is basically useless?
bots ping?
tawdry brook
so playing with bots, the ping command is basically useless?*
tawdry brook
The terminal command
mossy aurora
oh
no its not useless, you can still look at the ping location yourself
right after you input the command though, exit out of the terminal but dont move, just look around
the command will still process as long as you are near the terminal, so you can look around and find the location on your screen
tawdry brook
ah
minor fractal
Ping also tells you the precise room where the item is (area A, B, C, etc.)
tawdry brook
thanks!
wary linden
Ping also tells you the precise room where the item is (area A, B, C, etc.)
This can bug sometime. I had an instance where terminal kept saying room K but the pack was in an un-open box in room C
minor fractal
This can bug sometime. I had an instance where terminal kept saying room K but t...
Has to do with moving the item around.
It realizes it's been moved, but it doesn't realize it's not in the same zone anymore.
wary linden
The thing is this was a new zone with nothing moved
minor fractal
W8, unopened?
wary linden
Yeah
minor fractal
Checkpoint-related or clean run?
wary linden
Don't remember
minor fractal
Wack.
wary linden
It left me quite baffled. I had to scour the whole zone to find it and when i found it i was like : what the hell is this all about
Never encountered it again but this was in r6
If i recall it was in C1. And there were still enemies asleep in the room with the pack cause it hadn't been opened yet
Was the zone before giant zone
Now i said K but i don't remember the room layout of that zone. Might have been J on terminal. All i know for a fact was that the pack was in C (unopened) with sleepers still in C. I know the terminal was telling the wrong room
Oh and nobody entered room C before either. (Since you don't need to go there to get the 2nd data cube)
mossy aurora
There are some terminal listing issues with people that join mid game too I've experienced
mellow mauve
Any tips on doing the Exfil of C2 
?
steel valley
bring one or two snipers/scatterguns to handle the waves
it's always three hybrids, and they will always try to spawn behind you (though if you split up too much, they can spawn between)
mellow mauve
Still worth it to bring the turbine for the Scout room?
steel valley
not really if you have 1-2 sets of fog repellers
there's only really two rooms in the fog that you have to worry about
mellow mauve
Hmm so two for defending, two for pushing forward
steel valley
ye
i would have a sniper and a scattergun on the back, one or two rooms max away from the pushing team
have the pushing team carry a shotgun to kill scouts and the bio
and whenever they get into a room they shut the door behind them allowing the defenders to get closer
mellow mauve
The room right before the Scout room, is it worth it to clear
mellow mauve
Scout room with the blood door
steel valley
and it's random which ones have them
i would clear every room
otherwise hybrid waves can pull them in later
smoky raft
does anyone know how damage on melee weapons is calculated? Is it the same as ranged weapons? (sure this is something you could totally learn by feel/testing but I'm curious about the math)
if it is the same, then how would you calculate the damage per percentage of charge?
steel valley
i believe the scaling per charge is some kind of exponential growth, and it's different for each melee weapon
smoky raft
might I ask for source?
smoky raft
aight
at least with tomfoolery with some numbers the club should kill striker at 50% charge and it does destroy the head but for some reason that doesn't fully kill them, they just become headless chicken
smoky raft
sure
jaunty bear
@smoky raft when its asleep, yes, when its awake, no
smoky raft
fair but most of the time when you need melee (at least for a noob like myself) is usually while they're asleep anyway
fierce oracle
bat kills at about 70% charge
fierce oracle
<@409129963975868429> when its asleep, yes, when its awake, no
knife is the only one with the sleeping multiplier
floral pecan
you want me to dm it to you?
Me too please 
icy falcon
best loadout?
floral pecan
there isn't any, as far as primaries go all are reliable if used as you should
evendoh some are really hard to "make them work", like machine pistol and sawed off
as far as secondaries go, each one specializes in something
Heavy AR is a extremely good all rounded secondary
floral pecan
For primaries, HEL revo is probably the best right now
even if you can run whatever for primaries and be fine
fleet vessel
@ Moderators here too, albeit the embed didn't displ - oh
someone was quicker
thanks for your quick work~
zinc pagoda
Can you command the bots to use the c-foam launcher?
ruby wasp
yes but it's annoying
neon gust
knife is the only one with the sleeping multiplier
your the only one with my feelings multi 😩
zinc pagoda
yes but it's annoying
I see
gusty coral
How exactly do I gain trade cards for GTFO? I have over 200 hours and only 3 cards 
shrewd dirge
you either wait for the random card drop, which is never
or you buy them from others on the marketplace
smoky mist
What is a trade card lol steam stuff?
fleet vessel
steam stuff
tacit zealot
Average amount of time between roadmap updates ?
distant ice
up to 3 months of silence past a rundown release, then it starts speeding to 1-3 weeks
floral pecan
What is a trade card lol steam stuff?
things to increase your level on steam
minor fractal
Anyone knows what causes the map to cancel sounds?
Really annoying bug.
I want my reactor ambience.
ruby wasp
Anyone knows what causes the map to cancel sounds?
No idea
You could do the same thing in R4E1 in general (because of the error alarm) and R4D1 (when the reactor sound stacked with other sounds like a room or scouts triggering)
There were so many sounds the game just shuts itself up
wooden rover
When people say that they are looking for 3 people in the matchmaking channels do they specifically want you to already have a team of three people when joining them or are they just looking for at least three people to join in general? I know this seems like a really dumb question but I am very new to the game and I wanted to clarify things before I just went and joined somebody who was expecting a team of 3 people to join them
shrewd dirge
you're overthinking it.
if they want a party of 3 people that know eachother, they should instead look for LF1, as it better fits.
lf3 is, we need any 3 dorks for a complete party.
wooden rover
Ah ok, thank you for clarifying
shrewd dirge
lf3 is the shorthand for, i am alone.
viscid wolf
me irl
shrewd dirge
Lf3
woeful sedge
what equipment comp is good for D1?
viscid wolf
tools or weapons
for tools mine, bio, burst, burst is my recommendation
for weapons 1 sniper at least, and everything else is your choice
a combination of snipers, heavy ARs, and hel guns are good
woeful sedge
thanks
viscid wolf
hopefully I wasn't too late
woeful sedge
no lol we still in lobby 🤝
viscid wolf
good luck!
astral monolith
Hello, how do I get more apparel's ? I completed the hole rundown but I have only 1 torso.
warped vigil
or extension
rigid sinew
.t vanity rewards
uneven gulchBOT
You get one reward for completing each of the challenges in the 'Prisoner Apparel Requisition' list shown below. Rewards are selected from various pools. Additional reward chances will be available with future content drops (e.g., New Rundown releases)
fleet vessel
solo C3 main question:
Is it maybe worth it to buy some time and deliberately triggering the first enemy wave before opening the blood door, far early on, to use one of the doors there as a mined door and have one more wave and some time broken off?
As long as you're very quick about the rest you might be able to get to the bulkhead scan pre-fog, but I'm not certain, hence my question
minor fractal
solo C3 main question:
Is it maybe worth it to buy some time and deliberately t...
You can open the blood door as long as you spawn block.
They try to spawn behind you.
Depends on how fast you're getting to the blood door, if you have only 30 seconds until waves start it's probably better to force it to spawn behind that door.
covert apex
solo C3 main question:
Is it maybe worth it to buy some time and deliberately t...
Depends on how fast you're moving, You usually still have a minute left if you're ignoring everything in the hub zone and head straight for the blood door. You can get the first wave spawn at the first security door behind the blood door.
woeful sedge
Advice for setup in D1 M alarm door to Z93?
shrewd dirge
are you dying to it?
woeful sedge
no we are paranoid that they may come from some other direction other than the one door in the room
theres a funny looking wall model that im concerned about
covert apex
no we are paranoid that they may come from some other direction other than the o...
they can only come from 1 direction, and it is that small door
Did you bring a sentry with you?
shrewd dirge
scan roams hard, so, try to set sentrys on choke points.
woeful sedge
yeah we should be aight then, just didnt know where to set up defenses
thanks
success 👍
covert apex
woeful sedge
im having a bug where i can't interact with anything- boosters, rescources, not doors tho. Don't want to restart if i dont have to so i dont lose my nice boosters
woeful sedge
right
agony
it booted 3 of us and now the lobby host is the guy with walmart internet and nobody can join back
i loooove gtfo
shrewd dirge
you couldnt interact with anything cause the host died
sometimes there is an uncomfortably long time in that state before the game realizes its fucked.
or at least trying to host migrate.
woeful sedge
you couldnt interact with anything cause the host died
i was host 
shrewd dirge
1.0 btw. but honestly, ive lost worse.
woeful sedge
reckon we should just wait? the lobby is completely fucked
shrewd dirge
if you cant get it for another couple minutes, its fucked.
ive had times where host migration ripped the party in half.
and that was hopeless.
shrewd dirge
its always a skill issue
game is perfect, ur just bad lmao
fr though, good luck with the next run.
sucks.
woeful sedge
GTFO is a perfectly balanced game with no bugs and zero exploits
i just need to git gud
gonna go sip copium for the rest of the night
shrewd dirge
honestly, d1 is one of the shortest d1 runs, good luck with it tomorrow.
woeful sedge
ty
shrewd dirge
to clarify, of all the rundowns, this D1 is one of the shortest d1s.
viscid wolf
ooooh
R5D1 made people want to kill themselves
R4D1 actually wasn't too bad one of my favorite levels
R3D1 was kinda windy
R2 and R1 I dont remember
shrewd dirge
there are several D1s that were a pain in the ass.
viscid wolf
oh wait R1D1 was the preremake
shrewd dirge
the reactor D from r2 were a pain in the ass and took forever.
r3d1 was a mess after the sentry nerf
r4d1 was almost A level tier of difficulty, but was long af.
r5d1 wasnt bad without extreme.
weary mesa
Cause of the boring stat everyone used
shrewd dirge
getting flanked on the bridge was aids, having multiple defence points was also annoying.
weary mesa
eh was way more fun
shrewd dirge
you could advance and hold at separate points, but meh, turns into the same problem
enemy joins the meatgrinder
weary mesa
more movement and coordination than sitting in one spot 70% of the match
neon gust
r3d1 wasnt a mess after the sentry nerf
shrewd dirge
the one thing that pisses me off about r4d1*, is that it was basically the remake of the last styled reactor but modern.
neon gust
wich reactor
shrewd dirge
the reactor from r2.
neon gust
well in r2d2 they wanted you to hold at the bridge
r4d1 was quite unique in the aspect of them wanting you to split and everybody have theyre own little chokepoint
wich rely on more coordination and attention from players since you would have 1 guy running back and forth helping on holding the line
it wasnt a remake imo
weary mesa
imagine if reactor waves didn't stack
That spawn hold would basically be cheese at that point
neon gust
apart from the getting code part wich its practically been the same since r2d2
shrewd dirge
the only thing that bothers me, is terminal codes being static for reactors, with checkpoint
weary mesa
then reset if you don't want them to be static
shrewd dirge
checkpoint should let the natural expected gameplay play out
weary mesa
Having a CP already ruins that
shrewd dirge
while i see where you're coming from
i feel like simply grabbing a checkpoint, dying, and escaping the expected gameplay loop from that point forward, is broken.
minor fractal
the reactor D from r2 were a pain in the ass and took forever.
Best reactor in the history of the game, can't move me on that.
neon gust
I mean checkpoints are meant for those people who already struggle with the game
you made rng on that and they will fucking die even more
shrewd dirge
the argument originally was, the current r6d1 is one of the shortest.
you can like something, but still have it be a pain in the ass.
minor fractal
Tbh checkpoints are nifty for veterans just to run through once, learn the map, and then retry it with experience of the whole thing for a non-checkpoint clear.
shrewd dirge
you have a short reactor, a scan, a slightly longer scan, and a bossfight that does not take particularly long
neon gust
well thats a different type of reactor tho
the one that literally gives you all the codes
that remove the exploration that the other type of reactor gives you
shrewd dirge
im not comparing and contrasting the reactors
neon gust
so obviously r6d1 reactor its gonna be pretty straight forward
minor fractal
the argument originally was, the current r6d1 is one of the shortest.
you can li...
Shortest D1 or D tier?
neon gust
I mean thats the reason its short
minor fractal
Naw, R1D1 was short af
ashen cipher
So, I've not found an answer anywhere googling -- Can you die outright from infection alone?
shrewd dirge
no
ashen cipher
You'll just have 1HP until you exit?
viscid wolf
you cap at 85% infection
ashen cipher
Cool, thanks.
shrewd dirge
i said one of the shortest. r1d1 was very short yes, but it was also very long ago.
neon gust
the reactor its the most basic one and its literally the fastest since you can input everything pretty fast with no need from exploration
viscid wolf
once you leave the fog your infection will decay to 85%
if you're submerged in fog it can go to 100%
ashen cipher
you cap at 85% infection
Ambient, yeah, but while standing in a cloud it goes up to 100
viscid wolf
mmhm
ashen cipher
yeah
minor fractal
If you aren't being infected actively, it degenerates to 85%. So, you can get to 99% if you sit in the fog. Also note that your health naturally regenerates to 20 when it's below that.
ashen cipher
that's what I mean, that won't kill me if my health ticks down, yeah?
viscid wolf
no
neon gust
No infection itself wont kill you
shrewd dirge
impossible to die from infection alone.
ashen cipher
Cool
ashen cipher
I was figuring, but didn't see anything directly suggesting
viscid wolf
R5E1 moment
minor fractal
Mess up on a shooter and have it survive your first strike and then immediately kill you.
ashen cipher
yeah right now I'm only dealing with motion sensor doors and i'm solo with bots so i'm just putting up sentries and making sure i'm behind as much crap as possible
shrewd dirge
go in for a melee and get clapped by a spitter before your melee even hits
shrewd dirge
the high was fine, but it was too difficult for a C imo.
neon gust
so i can actually shoot the combat shotgun without lagging lel
shrewd dirge
id go for a r4c3 remaster tbh
neon gust
i mean it was a late C level
weary mesa
Only difficult if you do overload first
neon gust
its suppose to be difficult
minor fractal
the high was fine, but it was too difficult for a C imo.
Overload is generally supposed to be hardcore, on any tier, so it's definitely fine imo.
weary mesa
this is true
shrewd dirge
id rather continually do r6d3 than r4c3
minor fractal
steam forum moment
Replaying that level, it's even easier to see than I remember lmfao.
neon gust
Replaying that level, it's even easier to see than I remember lmfao.
locking the discussion
cannot deal with this elitism
ashen cipher
New question -- if a bot picks up a lock melter am I just boned? :V
neon gust
yep
rain cloak
how many blobs do you need to freeze charger scout
rigid sinew
4
viscid wolf
realistically 6 since people panic when it gets close and go
tap tap tap ta ptaptaptaptap
gleaming kestrel
can you join expeditions you haven't unlocked if the host you're joining has it?
rigid sinew
yes
gleaming kestrel
awesome thanks
dark fern
what tool loadouts should we bring for D1 if we get fucked hard by the class 6 alarm?
floral pecan
Can even go 3 burst 1 cfoam
Or 2 burst 1 cfoam 1 mine
The trick is to cfoam the small hallway at the bottom
As that is where the hardest part of the scan tends to be
Cause you got no room to shoot and enemies split as well
viscid wolf
bio is going help on that first S scan
its hard to know where enemies are until their right around that corner
also its heresy to not run bio
floral pecan
Is it?
But yea it does help
I feel like if you'll die it is cause you didn't cfoam properly anyways
viscid wolf
you're better off shooting I think
finite plinth
you can freeze everything and make the scan as boring as possible
or you can shoot everything and make it interesting
viscid wolf
I think you worry about interesting after you beat the level
floral pecan
you're better off shooting I think
That's assuming people can land their shots
If they can, it will work too
viscid wolf
smh this game should check for a minimum of 200 hours in aimlab
finite plinth
idk bro if you want to beat d1, you should just hotdrop and bring bots
the intended way of playing d1
floral pecan
I had some teams where they were not hitting a single thing and some where i was barely able to land hits myself. It's quite a difference
floral pecan
the intended way of playing d1
Since when is this game intended to be played with bots
finite plinth
yes.
viscid wolf
yes.
floral pecan
floral pecan
He'll kite to R1
viscid wolf
damn you right
just gotta spam that crouch to run faster
and kite past those surges
floral pecan
Next patch: too much heartbeat gives you a heart attack 
finite plinth
one day i'll get pass d4 surge solo
viscid wolf
lose ability to get res'd
viscid wolf
run 3 pure
floral pecan
I got murdered on the T scan in D4
Had a team who spent 15mins looking at tutorials
- i went to take a break
Came back they were ready, first few chargers kills everyone cause aim
I'll need to run a different weapon for that
viscid wolf
how do you miss an enemy running at you
finite plinth
have hel gun
floral pecan
Panic i guess, these guys spent too much time to look at guides and stuff
finite plinth
nukes 18 chargers with 1 mag
floral pecan
have hel gun
Yea i'll try that on my next run
viscid wolf
man everytime I see a flyer I tell myself "thank god I play apex"
yall should try apex helps with tracking
floral pecan
I may have played a lot of shooters in the past as well
Evendoh i tend to rank up with other things more than aim, such as gamesense and whatnot
Aim's ok i guess
dark fern
what's the % needed for Hel gun to 1hs?
floral pecan
On who?
dark fern
striker
floral pecan
If for Hs you mean headshot, no boosters
viscid wolf
12?
floral pecan
I remember 25%, lemme check
floral pecan
13% @dark fern
dark fern
got it thanks
floral pecan
Dmr is 3% which means any booster will work pretty much @viscid wolf
fleet vessel
didn't the past rundowns have green and red fog, with only red fog getting you down to 1% HP and green fog only getting you to like 85%?
Or am I misremembering stuff 
steel valley
nope
warm yew
Lighting color moment
austere sorrel
tip and tricks for d4 last part