gtfo-related-questions

[fervent bronze]

because for some reason matchmaking keeps booting me when I go into it?

[jaunty bear]

knives are good for quick sleeper kills

[fervent bronze]

i go into matchmaking for a specific stage, 5 or so seconds later it will just go back to the menu screen

i like the mace

[jaunty bear]

try lobby code invites instead @fervent bronze , thats far more stable

[fervent bronze]

that and spear is what ive been alternating between

[carmine steppe]

It depends on how close together they are and depends on the melee weapon. With the knife it's much easier to kill in quick succession and it's good to keep in mind that even if one is away it won't yell and alert the room for a few seconds

[jaunty bear]

the mace/bat is nice. just easy to use

spear's got big range

[carmine steppe]

So you technically have a buffer of time after some wake up to clear the bunch and keep the rest of the room asleep

[fervent bronze]

another thing, about the big guys, theres no way to stealthily kill them is there? because I know their melee does a lot of damage, so I was wondering if its possible to hit a fully charged melee and then back up and shoot them before they can really do anything

[carmine steppe]

There is, you can do it with bots as well

Generally it takes 4 players to melee

[jaunty bear]

indeed

[carmine steppe]

Aim for limbs with a full charge of the sledge to stagger

[fervent bronze]

i dont trust the bots to do that after i saw all 3 of them approach it as I hit it and then they got meleed and all died

does giving them the synchronise command help with that or does that not do anything for the bots?

[jaunty bear]

four methods:

1. Sniper shot to a giants head will insta kill it
2. C-FOAM then melee to death
3. synch charged melees to its back, then repeat constantly until death
4. same as 3, except target limbs to stagger

ye

im not sure id trust bots with a giant synch kill

lul

[fervent bronze]

I can just target it directly with c foam?

[carmine steppe]

The bots will help out and melee but it will only really but effective if tit's staggered

[jaunty bear]

yea cfoam can freeze a giant

[carmine steppe]

So I'd suggest you aim for the back of the head then aim for limbs

[jaunty bear]

youll have enough time to kill it right after

[fervent bronze]

never really used c foam that way, ive only used it to put down defenses for scans

[jaunty bear]

fair enough

[fervent bronze]

guess thats not a bad way of using it

cus i feel like im wasting it by not using it at all

[jaunty bear]

youll only really use cfoam primarly for defensive purposes or laying it down on the ground

[carmine steppe]

I wouldn't really c-foam giants it's a bit of a waste imo

[jaunty bear]

yea its a waste

[carmine steppe]

Either shoot it with a scatter or sniper or melee imo

[jaunty bear]

technically it could be used against charger scouts if there are multiple in a room

[carmine steppe]

Yeah for sure using it against charger scouts is great

[jaunty bear]

ye

the risk against timing two perfect fully charged melees against charger scouts is just

its just not worth it lol

[fervent bronze]

dont know any of the classifications for the sleepers

dont even think ive seen that many

ive seen the scout, big guys, sleepers and spitters

[jaunty bear]

which mission have you completed?

[fervent bronze]

A1 the only one so far, was pretty simple

[jaunty bear]

A1 - Strikers, Shooters, Giants

[fervent bronze]

i got rather far in B1 and had to restart a checkpoint, but had to go do something else so i abandoned the run

[jaunty bear]

ah

yea B1 - Strikers, Shooters, Scouts, Giants

[fervent bronze]

not sure HOW far i was

i was right after blue security door

[jaunty bear]

funny thing: youll notice that alarm doors summon darker skined sleepers

they're a bit tougher, more armored than regular pale skinned ones

spitters are something else completly funnily enough

[thin pine]

what's the strat for C3? i have an aggresive supply efficiency booster but we still keep running out of ammo at around the 10 minutes left mark

[hollow harbor]

The innocent b1ers

Ash u going for PE?

[thin pine]

no just main

for now

[hollow harbor]

How far do you get in by the 1 min mark

10 min

I'm on my phone

Also how big of a group?

[thin pine]

i don't remember what zone it is

we're just 2 with bots

[floral acorn]

open 174 before the cp, plenty ammo tool there

[hollow harbor]

Ok so I ask because the game filters you by making you wait for locked doors

[floral acorn]

and doors to mine foam funnel

[hollow harbor]

At the 10 min mark u should be at the final door

Yes. If u can go into 174 where the secondary key is.

Lots of extra loot

[jaunty bear]

never stop moving as well lul

[hollow harbor]

Bring mines and close then mine a door behind you

[thin pine]

we actually don't bring cfoam and mines, we run 3 sentries and a biotracker, getting overrun with enemies is not an issue, ammo is

[hollow harbor]

No bio

Ever

[jaunty bear]

mines over biotracker for c3

you have enough vision to dictate enemy positions

[steel valley]

or or

both

[jaunty bear]

yea true

[hollow harbor]

The ammo is an issue because you are running bio and "aren't being overrun"

[jaunty bear]

actually cfoam and mine with two sentries will be good

[steel valley]

not sure what you’re exactly doing with three sentries lol

[floral acorn]

mines cf burst bio/mines recommended

[jaunty bear]

three sentries are uhh

[hollow harbor]

Which sentries?

[jaunty bear]

two is good, three is a bit much

[thin pine]

all burst

[jaunty bear]

you wont need three burst

[steel valley]

i would say bio/mines/double burst is the best setup

maybe swap a burst for auto if you want

[hollow harbor]

Yeah. Just run 2 burst if that and mine with cfoam

[thin pine]

so like do we cfoam and mine every wave or only a select few

[hollow harbor]

Just make sure to close doors behind you then place a sideways mine across them.

[steel valley]

i think people heavily overrate cfoam in c3

[jaunty bear]

mine and cfoam combo, as you know, can clear waves like that. it saves you a loooooooot of ammo

[hollow harbor]

If u do that. You blow a whole wave up

Save mines maaaaaaainly for giant waves

[steel valley]

or just bring a single sniper

helps burn tanks as well

[hollow harbor]

And since you aren't doing PE or secondary you aren't dealing with big daddies

[thin pine]

wait

tanks

[steel valley]

oh wait this is main only

[hollow harbor]

Yes main only for him

[thin pine]

[steel valley]

zzz

[thin pine]

oh boy i sure am excited for peing this

[hollow harbor]

Wym wait tanks? Ur dealing with big daddies or nah?

[steel valley]

if you want free resources open up secondary

[floral acorn]

no tanks main only

[steel valley]

it unlocks three zones of extra resources

you don’t have to even do the obj at all

[hollow harbor]

Idk of its spoiler but yeah. Secondary adds hybrids to waves while overload adds big daddies to waves

So pe adds both

[thin pine]

should we try to get the bulkhead open before the fog reaches the bulkhead control or is it fine

[hollow harbor]

If its spoiler ill delete

[steel valley]

fog shouldn’t be high at all at that point anyways

[craggy pier]

So, whats the reason the bioscanner sometimes only tag a single enemy?

[hollow harbor]

Ash if ur doing main only you should mever deal with the fart cloud at all

[jaunty bear]

you're not close enough tldr

or the enemies vice versa

[steel valley]

don’t ads

“feature”

:)

[craggy pier]

Like, i was right infront of a swarm door

[jaunty bear]

o

then mit's ^

[hollow harbor]

You should only ever have to deal with the fart cloud if you're doing overload

[jaunty bear]

me thinks

[steel valley]

it’s in the patch notes lol

read them if you don’t believe it

[hollow harbor]

@thin pine if you want something more fun than c3 try D2 darkzone.

Aka both right sides.

[flat rock]

The single ping is apparently so they could test the function for something being added in the future, but why keep it in the game if it's simply useless as it sits currently

[jaunty bear]

d2 darkzone is terrifying ):

[hollow harbor]

Shhh Shhh you mean more fun

[floral acorn]

funny how much cf launcher mommy needs to freeze for 5s :)

"fun"

[fleet vessel]

just use a nade

or shoot it without foom

[floral acorn]

we opted for the error route w/ a few hel guns, was fun'er :)

[hollow harbor]

F is for friends who do stuff together

U is for you, me, and mommy

N is for no, no not like that oh god we're going to die as the fart cloud floats over us

[floral acorn]

exvlamation mark is for the poor sod that gets code 9/9 and sets of 6 waves while his friends are already in extract :)

[fleet vessel]

wait, code 9 does what.

[floral acorn]

not here, spoilery...

[covert apex]

1,5 half charge as client

and a bit over 2 as host

[floral acorn]

thanks :) .. 25 26 blobs is like 40% , a lot

[thin pine]

just use cfoam grenadle lmao

[finite plinth]

just kill her in 2 secs lmao

[floral acorn]

i spam helgun at her tumors, bro snipes then and 2 bots melee her from the sides, cue csi miami title scream yaaaaaa

[thin pine]

just solo her with a shotgun from literally on top of her

ez

seen a guy do exactly that

[modest vault]

what does prisoner efficiency mean?

in the objectives
example: main, secondary, etc.

[wary linden]

every objectives were all done in a single run

the mission requires to have all 3 difficulties too

[fluid echo]

What’s the reason to use choke-mod shotgun over regular?

[wary linden]

longer range, smaller cone(spread), less fall off dmg

[viscid wolf]

What’s the reason to use choke-mod shotgun over regular?

[wary linden]

you already know that though ;p

[fluid echo]

That’s a better question, why would anyone run the choke mod? Serious question

[wary linden]

in this rundown. not really a reason why you'd want to run it more then something else

personal preference

[viscid wolf]

smelly gun

[viscid wolf]

this sure is personal

[wary linden]

it used to be the only shotgun that could be decent vs tank and good vs chargers

but now regular shotgun can do similar jobs, and scattergun exist

regular shotgun is the more versatile shotgun

[fluid echo]

That is true, the more I play the more I think the scattergun needs to be removed entirely

I think the scattergun makes too many weapons obsolete

[wary linden]

funny enough the regular shotgun is better then the scattergun

[fluid echo]

How so?

[wary linden]

you are restricted with the scattergun.

you use your ammo extremely fast. when the regular shotgun can do the same job with a little bit more ammo. shotgun is way more versatile

[fluid echo]

But scatter is better damage per refill, so better against giants,tanks and moms

[wary linden]

killing a mom with a shotgun isn't that long

barely 4 sec differences between the 2

you just gotta aim more

[fluid echo]

4 secs is the difference between one c foam nade and two

[wary linden]

not really

[fluid echo]

4 seconds is a lot of time for a mother

[wary linden]

keep in mind that i say this as solo kill

you have a team

[fluid echo]

As a solo the scatter has to be even more important because then you get no support damage shooting the mother/tank

[wary linden]

but if you miss one shot, you basically lost half your dmg and you gotta reload way quicker

that takes longer then just dumping a shotgun mag in anything

if you miss one shot with the shotgun, you don't lose much on dmg

[fluid echo]

But if you miss one shot point blank with a scatter that’s a major skill issue

[wary linden]

scattergun is also dependant on if you are host or client. especially against moms. they will start running away after a single shot if you are host

[fluid echo]

That’s why c foam nades exist

I guess not for d2 though but it’s not too difficult

[wary linden]

what do you do when you don't have those 😛

you can't rely on having a c-foam grenade everytime

[fluid echo]

Quickly dump two shots with the scatter instead of so much more with the pump

The scattergun is better in your example because with the pump you need more time to shoot the back of the mother

[wary linden]

but i think you are missing the point of the regular shotgun

the regular shotgun is suppose to be the jack of all trade

it's way more versatile then scattergun

[fluid echo]

Yea that is true, the pump is way better as a solo

[wary linden]

scattergun has a purpose and is optimize for said purpose

[fluid echo]

Yea very very true, the “scattergun” person needs a crowd control guy on the team

[craggy pier]

My lord the D2 degraded alarm is brutal

[fluid echo]

But a pump guy is less reliant on a whole other teammate

[craggy pier]

That room with the big chargers and scout charger? sheeesh

What are your strats for that?

[fluid echo]

Are you using c foam?

[craggy pier]

Nope

[fluid echo]

Team?

[wary linden]

either c-foam /mine or leave the door above open with a sentry

[craggy pier]

two sentries, one bio, one mine, two bots

[fluid echo]

No c foam mines on d2

[craggy pier]

We just have mines to deal with the swarm doors, especially the baby doors at the beginning

[fluid echo]

You don’t need two sentries on d2

[wary linden]

c-foam mines = c-foam + a mine

[fluid echo]

Oh sorry misunderstood

[wary linden]

if i was talking about the tripmine i would say tripmine ;p

[fluid echo]

Gotcha

But anyways , take a cfoam instead of two turrets

[wary linden]

depends really

[fluid echo]

3 blobs for a charger scout then gang him

[wary linden]

if you need the fire power in secondary, 2 sentry can be good.

[craggy pier]

its next to 4 big chargers

[fluid echo]

Bring a scattergun and kill him

[craggy pier]

Is the terminal to disable the alarm in the room with the big chargers?

[wary linden]

you can sneak past the charger scouts

you just gotta reach the terminals. that's pretty easy

[craggy pier]

So, after the cluster alarm, send in one dude to sneak to the terminal?

while the rest defend?

[wary linden]

just clear the rest of the enemies, then you can all enter really

[fluid echo]

You can do that, watch for the big chargers though

[wary linden]

you should probably pull the big chargers anyway before the alarm

[fluid echo]

The chargers are behind the door aren’t they?

[craggy pier]

Okay, so, first, there is a class 5 cluster alarm, then, there is a swarm door, which has sleeping big chargers behind it

[craggy pier]

yup

6-8 big chargers and one charger scout

[wary linden]

pull room, kill, pull second room, kill, do alarm, kill remainings when it's done, enter and sneak past terminals

the error alarm way is differnt

[craggy pier]

Its the error alarm path im talking about

[wary linden]

the error alarm, c-foam could be useful... or you you just hold with 2 sentries. for the blood door behind that. just make sure to kill a wave first

[fluid echo]

The blood door sometimes has a scout In the same room behind it, in that case you’ll have to do that wave as well

[wary linden]

you can leave 1 person looking at the back in case the wave arries before you are done

idk, mom zone is more fun ;p

[fluid echo]

Hell no 😆

[wary linden]

it's way better

;p

[wary linden]

also for big chargers, sentries are pretty meh against them. sniper snetry is good but it takes 4 second to shoot once it detects an enemy. so if you don't have a really long line of sight for the sentry, it's kinda pointless

so you could just leave your sentries facing behind you to slow whatever come from behind

[fluid echo]

Bring a scatter, kill the wave before the blood door, place a mine on the blood door then open it and have the team kill the giants then get the terminal

[wary linden]

don't come crying when the bbc melee you through your shot ;p

[ruby wasp]

big chargers in a dark corner of a room

top-tier spook

[floral acorn]

or normal smallguy pulsating there.. get closer... ahh, hybrid. gah.

[fleet vessel]

yeah. Just pitch black darkness and you don't really see the depth until it's almost too late and you bumped into the giant charger.

As for the hybrid, one friend of mine got really confused when we found sleeping hybrids for the first time

[floral acorn]

sleeping giant shadow in hybrid form, that was confusing (r5c2) .. then khepri guide'd it perfectly.

[wary linden]

when are we getting r2 shadow giants back?

[ruby wasp]

no idea

could be hilarious tbh

[wary linden]

people would shit their pants

[smoky mist]

No shadow giants in d3 scan?

I thought the class um 5 or 6 had some

[wary linden]

what shadow giants? all i see are obese shadows

😛

[craggy pier]

is it fine for me to want to cheat to get a d4 completion stolen to bugs

[viscid wolf]

it's a coop player game

it's not like it's a ranked system

[craggy pier]

every single d4 run ive done i either die or get fucked by the bugs

[viscid wolf]

if that means a completion for you by all means go ahead

I mean it isn't an fps game so it wont affect other people or anything

[craggy pier]

perfect

[viscid wolf]

but honestly personally I would go back and beat it because it doesn't feel done to me

[ruby wasp]

what's that sussy cheat

[craggy pier]

i was in a run the other day my teammates got the completion but i didnt because of the final datacube bug

and i couldnt join because of other complications

[icy cave]

yeah that bug is annoying

[craggy pier]

99% of d4 is annoying

[icy cave]

but I would still go back and finish it legit

[craggy pier]

i might eventually

when my pc is fixed

[icy cave]

the first surge is annoying*

[craggy pier]

the error surge is annoying

the t scan is annoying

the bugs

[ruby wasp]

the fog part is annoying

xd

[craggy pier]

are a pain in the ass

the fog is annoying

[icy cave]

the T scan I agree, but the error we now can do reliably.

[craggy pier]

how

[ruby wasp]

prep yourself in advance

[craggy pier]

ok

[ruby wasp]

foam everywhere

[minor fractal]

None of D4 is that hard, lmao, you just need set-ups.

[ruby wasp]

then close doors behind you

D4 is not hard

[craggy pier]

just annoying

[ruby wasp]

it's just uselessly annoying

[minor fractal]

It's a fun level.

[ruby wasp]

Remove the fog part and i'll call it fun

100%

[icy cave]

C-foam the large door into 414 B and the two stairs on either side. keep it foamed until guy with cell is at door, release ... BOOM ... run --> profit

[viscid wolf]

first timing the last "surge" is almost impossible I will say

[craggy pier]

its a painful level when you dont get the completion about 40 times due to bugs

[minor fractal]

Bro, stop rejoining.

[icy cave]

that I agree on, first time was like : seriously ?

[viscid wolf]

yeah that was an E tier time alarm

[craggy pier]

you try having an old busted setup that needs new thermal paste cpu cooler a better psu a new gpu new hard drives

the list goes on for me

[minor fractal]

Dunno how people find the last error hard, it's just a wave defense.

[icy cave]

ok but THAT is not the games fault. the bug is there, im just talking about your hardware

[minor fractal]

It is pretty rough if they spawn straight ahead, but you can time it to run past alright.

[viscid wolf]

when it's a 15 enemy 30 second error wave it's pretty bad

getting out that zone is really hard

[craggy pier]

its fine you can melee them

[viscid wolf]

the rest is easy

it also depends a lot on rng

if they spawn in the side rooms you got really lucky

[icy cave]

as soon as you're in the hallway on the right outside 414. you are clear. easy to defend for the three guys escorting

[viscid wolf]

if they spawn in front then the difficulty goes up a notch

[craggy pier]

well i never got to see or do that bit because of the final datacube bug

[minor fractal]

It's rough if you get the bad spawn and don't know how to do it, sure, but it's still not that hard.

[viscid wolf]

it's not bad

[minor fractal]

Clear wave, let them come up the stairs, blitz past.

[viscid wolf]

it's like C2

[craggy pier]

its painfully rq annoying

[viscid wolf]

if you get stuck for a second runs over

you need teamwork

[craggy pier]

and just boring after over 70 tries with no proper team

[viscid wolf]

I mean ray you probably played in a squad

[minor fractal]

This is true.

[viscid wolf]

same with me

took me two tries

but with pubs

[minor fractal]

The PuG experience is probably cancer.

[craggy pier]

...

[viscid wolf]

that thing is probably the hardest sequence in the entire game

[minor fractal]

In the rundown?

[craggy pier]

r4e1

[ruby wasp]

rundown fo' sho'

[icy cave]

I still think D3PE is harder in this rundown

[ruby wasp]

epic

[craggy pier]

i beat it first try with a god team

[minor fractal]

Tbf, most of D3PE rests on your solo player and the tank fight.

[viscid wolf]

I think C3PE is harder than D3PE

[icy cave]

O don't know I still struggle with that one but D4 i pretty straight forward now

[warm yew]

D3PE is fun with 2 bios

: )

[ruby wasp]

facts

[craggy pier]

no sh*t sherlock

[ruby wasp]

C3PE ?

Harder ?

[minor fractal]

Fuck no.

[warm yew]

Not even at all

[icy cave]

yes but D4 is also easy with a god team

[craggy pier]

c3 pe was r5b4 on steroids and a stupid amount of drugs and meme's

[viscid wolf]

C3 has a 'solution'

[ruby wasp]

C3PE is pure boredom once you get the hang of it

[viscid wolf]

but you need to know that solution very well

D3PE is much more readable

[icy cave]

C3PE was really not hard, it was more a memory test

[warm yew]

C3 overload is fucking dumb, but the rest of the level is good

[craggy pier]

well thats why c3 pe was a pain in the ass

[viscid wolf]

I guess it's like an arc

D3PE has much more readability

but C3 is more solvable

[minor fractal]

Readability?

[craggy pier]

ehhhhh

[viscid wolf]

like if you're going in C3PE the first few times

good luck

[warm yew]

Overload obj is literally a glorified S1

[craggy pier]

d3pe is slightly buggy and a tad annoying

[ruby wasp]

Bro

what level in that freaking game isn't buggy

[lapis mauve]

ive done d3pe with randoms and no bio. folk seem to want more burst turrets for everything lol

[icy cave]

I mean.... true

[craggy pier]

how many bug testers quit when r6 came out for bug hunting

and they had what 2 weeks maybe?

[ruby wasp]

lmao

[minor fractal]

Completed? I guess they were good at shooting and using their lights.

[craggy pier]

probably more but im not a bug hunter

[lapis mauve]

Yes, finished the level

[viscid wolf]

chez calm down

[ruby wasp]

i expected more autosentries

2/10 not realistic

[craggy pier]

lol

[viscid wolf]

you sound like the old scaler server times

[minor fractal]

Nice.

[ruby wasp]

i legit should try these kind of runs

Like what any new team would pick as a loadout

[craggy pier]

well i dont have a time machine but that sounds like fun

[ruby wasp]

bio + 2 autosentries + mine

[craggy pier]

...

[lapis mauve]

4 cfoam. just shoot the blobs that start running bro

[ruby wasp]

The "why are tool refills disappearing" incident

[viscid wolf]

search up the chat history of neko wafer

[craggy pier]

ok

[warm yew]

Sounds more of a tool overuse incident

Got em

[ruby wasp]

based

[minor fractal]

I do kind of wish more people learned to fight shadows w/out bio.

[craggy pier]

ok im just going to leave the conversation now

[minor fractal]

It's not actually that hard.

[craggy pier]

tbf r5 was more fun

[ruby wasp]

oof

no

[minor fractal]

Depends a bit on lighting conditions, though.

[ruby wasp]

R5 was anything but fun

[viscid wolf]

R5 was terrible

[minor fractal]

Lmao, R5 was a lot harder than R6. It was fun if you had a static, but really annoying to PuG in.

[viscid wolf]

I still find R4 the god rundown

[ruby wasp]

It wasn't fun even with a static

[viscid wolf]

still love R4

[ruby wasp]

i stg i just wanted to kms each time i started B2 PE to help people

[pearl badger]

R4 was fun

[ruby wasp]

R4 was really fun

aside from B3 which was kinda annoying

[minor fractal]

I'm eh on R4, too many error alarms.

[ruby wasp]

ye

[lapis mauve]

r4c3pe. hope you saved the ammo pack

[minor fractal]

I feel like R4 nostalgia is setting in and people are viewing it too highly.

[pearl badger]

i loved r4e1 and b2.. and c2... and d2.. and a2-a3s

what do you mean nostalgia

[ruby wasp]

R4B1 xd

w o t

[viscid wolf]

R4E1 and R4D1 were two of my favorite levels

[ruby wasp]

R4D2 PE

bruh

[pearl badger]

I just loved bonking invisible scouts

[ruby wasp]

Probably the only time i found the fog concept to be good

R4B2 PE was nearly impossible for new players

[icy cave]

not htere yet, still; on R1 😦

[ruby wasp]

No one could guess in a single try that overload would be under fog if you dared placing cells into gen

[pearl badger]

R1 i had a nostalgia fit for real

[ruby wasp]

bro

[pearl badger]

then i remembered how broken the game was

stagger cancelling into melee slap

[minor fractal]

R1 had an atmosphere, but the gameplay was definitely not built to last.

[icy cave]

yeah I can see how it was really early stages compared to R6.

[pearl badger]

R2E1, i did go back after succeeding R4E1 just to see how far i could go

[ruby wasp]

Ah yes

[pearl badger]

we eventually wiped to a shotgun sentry tking

[ruby wasp]

R2E1 : Bebi retrieval

[pearl badger]

that err:alarm was no joke

[minor fractal]

R2's probably aged the best of any rundown, it seems like everything besides E1 was pretty "complete," and it set a nice standard for difficulty that hasn't been deviated from all too heavily besides the addition of layers.

The extension of R4 felt really polished, as well.

[mossy shale]

what does Biomass surge do in D3?

[ruby wasp]

a surge error

[viscid wolf]

you got 15 minutes to dip

[mossy shale]

so endless alarm?

[viscid wolf]

or you die

[ruby wasp]

Ye

[viscid wolf]

yes

[ruby wasp]

but it's a surge

hope you like them

😳

[mossy shale]

i see

is it possible to do D3 in the order: Main, Secondary, overload?

[ruby wasp]

no

[mossy shale]

or is it only possible Overload, main then secondary

[ruby wasp]

However, main > overload > secondary is possible

though overload > main > secondary is the usual way to clear D3PE

[mossy shale]

which one is better to do

[icy cave]

I look forward to it, really curious

[viscid wolf]

overload first is much easier

[mossy shale]

i see

[unkempt ridge]

Are skins unlocks Rundown-specific ? Will I be able to unlock the skins I missed in the R7 or will it be too late ?

[ruby wasp]

No idea

although it's likely that the cosmetic pool will be imported in the next rundowns

[unkempt ridge]

can't you stunlock giants with the bat ?

[floral pecan]

You cannot 100% stunlock with anything alone, you can with a brief delay

Only thing is, in that delay they will swing in your face, so you need to work around that. Not for spear as you can just outrange them

[unkempt ridge]

You mean there is a stun resistance cooldown when they're staggered ?

[floral pecan]

If you break a limb, they will stagger even if they are in an animation AND for longer.
If you stagger with stagger HP, it will only work if it is not in a stagger animation and lasts less

The bat, compared to other melees, has really high light tap stagger HP damage

But as i mentioned.. the stagger stun is worse and not chainable without giving him room to melee

[unkempt ridge]

okay so what's the bat's stagger good for.. ?

[floral pecan]

The fact that it will stagger most thing with a light tap

[jaunty bear]

its also seriously not that hard to use

as it's description implies

[floral pecan]

Evendoh it works well on giants too, i would never be too close to any giant aside shooter unless i am about to land a charged hit to stun

[fierce oracle]

bat stagger is for spamming it on giants while saying "team I need help"

its kinda funny

[unkempt ridge]

what's the point if the giant can still melee you tho ;-;

[fierce oracle]

this is why we run hammer :)

[floral pecan]

A team hits limbs

They will probably land a charged hit to a limb while he is stunned

[fierce oracle]

it's still doable with bat, just harder because smaller range

[floral pecan]

And i agree with @fierce oracle, the sledge is a giant murderer

[fierce oracle]

meleeing giants is a practiced art, and not one that can be taught without dying numerous times

[floral pecan]

The spear can do it safely, probably the only thing it is good at

The sledge can do it but as kephri said, you need to practice the timing to not get hit

[fierce oracle]

^

unless someone removed it, there is a gif of it on the wiki

in the giant striker page

[unkempt ridge]

another question, spear doesn't pierce anymore ?

[fierce oracle]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gtfo_gamepedia_en/images/f/f8/Solo_Melee_Giant.mp4/revision/latest?cb=20211007120140

[unkempt ridge]

I just saw it

[fierce oracle]

for anyone who cares ^

[fierce oracle]

It's supposed to still be able to, but they have to be basically in a straight line for it to work

it just removes the need for double killing

[unkempt ridge]

I tested in straight line and it didn't seem to work D:

[fierce oracle]

but its kinda bad

I don't run spear so I don't have any tips unfortunately

other than just don't use it lol

you get no mobility and the longest charge time, in exchange for less damage than hammer and longer range

just feels too niche IMO

[unkempt ridge]

I think it's great for scouts

[fierce oracle]

eh

scouts are still the same

if you could kill them before than its no different

[unkempt ridge]

I'm comparing it next to the other weapons

I don't see how another is better

[fierce oracle]

melee is supposed to be your fall back weapon, and as such it needs to be versatile. Spear and knife aren't versatile

they each do 1 or 2 things semi well

but those things are also done well by sledge and bat

knife is fast stealth and low stamina cost for loud enemies

[unkempt ridge]

I was just talking about scouts

[fierce oracle]

scouts you just sprint into and melee

or shoot if you don't feel like waiting

[unkempt ridge]

but in general, to me it looks like the bat is the one that does things semi well D:

[fierce oracle]

bat is just better knife

[unkempt ridge]

not really

I have easier time killing a lot of enemies with the knife

[fierce oracle]

bat kills at 60% charge which is like 0.1s slower than knife

very rarely will that matter

[flat rock]

You can stagger chain essentially indefinitely with bat you are not incorrect, it has some inconsistencies though which do not make it surefire

[fierce oracle]

and it has hella low stamina cost

but it has the plus of stagger and higher damage

it does the same thing as knife, and has more stuff tacked on

[unkempt ridge]

that's the theory, in practice you can't know your charge % with precision so you'll always be slower than knife <.<

[fierce oracle]

you can

its called look at the circle on your screen

[unkempt ridge]

real my whole message D:

[fierce oracle]

the point im making is that the small time difference will very rarely come into play

and I'd rather be 0.1s slower and still have versatility

than not have it

[unkempt ridge]

it's enough to invalidate the point "bat is just a better knife"

[fierce oracle]

not really

its the same length of time as a single hel gun charge

does that make hel gun worse than revolver?

[unkempt ridge]

what ?

what's the connection

[floral pecan]

The knife stealth multi may make it faster than bat if abused

But i just use sledge so eh..

Idk much about the rest, aside that spear is a bad sledge that can easily solo giants

[fierce oracle]

hel gun and revo fill a similar role in trashing small enemies, but hel gun has a 0.1s charge up

but you'll never notice the charge up

and it very rarely matters if at all

[floral pecan]

Do they?

[viscid wolf]

hel gun go brrrr

[floral pecan]

Revo is realistically the most efficient gun in the game granted you headshot, HEL gun IS the most efficient if you pen..

[unkempt ridge]

does the giant melee 0.0001 second after he's out of stun or is there a delay ?

[floral pecan]

Not sure how soon he does it, but as soon as you get in range he will stop whatever he is doing and swing his arms around

[flat rock]

its AI prioritization most likely

the melee has higher priority than the tongue, so if you get in range it will defer to doing so

would be my guess

[floral pecan]

I never get close to a giant unless i intend to break a limb so i don't get hit

[unkempt ridge]

but to break a limb don't you have to be in range of his melee ?

[flat rock]

With anything but spear yes

[floral pecan]

As kephri said, the sledge can barely outrange him

[flat rock]

spear can stay outside range, sledge you have to essentially max range it

so it's impractical

you'll be in range more often than not

[fierce oracle]

not entirely

[floral pecan]

Can be practical if practiced

But not something easy for sure

[fierce oracle]

there is definitely a small delay

cause you can run up and break a limb

and can ignore spacing

[floral pecan]

Yea i don't outrange it either

I just run at it and make sure my hit connects asap

[fierce oracle]

also you can just jump straight into his face for headshots and not get smacked

[flat rock]

Well yea, I'm more referring purely to range and not actual melee delay

[fierce oracle]

yeah always out ranging him is impractical

[floral pecan]

Ah ye agreed then

I always do the "hit him before he hits you" thing

[flat rock]

I'm too lazy 90% of the time now to try to melee bigs

I just blast the fuckers

[smoky mist]

Try to bait a tongue

[flat rock]

it's so much less hassle lol

[unkempt ridge]

there must be one parameter we don't have since I don't think the time between 2 bat swing is longer than the time between you being in range and a headshot hammer hit

[floral pecan]

I rarely melee them too, we do usually have a guy with a sniper or scatter anyhow, and it is still risky afterall

[flat rock]

if you're talking about bat staggering, there's an issue that I and some others have noticed that you can get false staggers

[smoky mist]

I usually duo so im pretty use to meleeing everything but giant chargers lol

[fierce oracle]

there is definitely a small delay, bat will always stagger on a full charge so you can run up and smack him before he melees

[flat rock]

the animation will play, but actual stagger does not really happen

[fierce oracle]

then back off and do it again once he isn't staggered anymore

[flat rock]

so tap hitting with bat can get you fucked if this happens

[fierce oracle]

^

[smoky mist]

I’ve killed moms with hammers 😂

[unkempt ridge]

really ? that might explain, are the devs aware of this ?

[floral pecan]

Back when spear was broken, ppl murdered it in like 2 charges

[flat rock]

Surely, but will they fix it?

Who knows

[unkempt ridge]

full charge or not doesn't change the stagger for the bat afaik

[smoky mist]

Damn I never used the spear pre nerf but once. The no charge sprint killed it for me

[fierce oracle]

higher base charge = more stagger damage

which means you don't have to tap spam

[flat rock]

it purely based off stagger value does not have more stagger, but mathematically it is more due to increased damage

Full charge will also likely break limb, which gives stagger as well

[unkempt ridge]

what does that mean, the stagger total value take damages as parameter too ?

[floral pecan]

I can give you a chart if you'd like

Easier that way

[unkempt ridge]

I sure would like

[flat rock]

That would work

[floral pecan]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Br_2A3n3YDO1v0Kld27KCLvwRYKJqjliyhntoT2NTp4/edit#gid=196815589

The multiplier you see works as you'd guess.. multiply it by the damage you are doing, and that's how much stagger damage you are doing

[unkempt ridge]

damn

does that mean the hammer staggers more than the bat if charged ?

[floral pecan]

Correct

Well uh, sorta

[unkempt ridge]

I thought staggering was a set value, not a mult

[floral pecan]

It will do more stagger damage, but if you hit the damage you need, any exceeding damage is pointless

Most enemies stagger at 4-7 or 40 for giants, the hammer does literally 100

[unkempt ridge]

ah, that info I didn't have

[floral pecan]

If you look further down, you can see stagger HPs

[unkempt ridge]

indeed

[floral pecan]

What you really care about is limbHP, as that's where the GOOD staggers come from

[unkempt ridge]

you mean bodypart hp ?

[floral pecan]

And these are as simple as "how much damage a limb needs to be broken", making staggermulti useless in this case

Yes

[smoky mist]

Geez you guys dissecting datablocks

🤯

[floral pecan]

It's what i do

[smoky mist]

I clicky I shooty

[unkempt ridge]

"critmult" ? do they mean head

[floral pecan]

Head and tumors on bosses

[floral pecan]

Works like a charm as well

[smoky mist]

Except on floating squids.

[floral pecan]

Ah ye that too

For these guys it is the yellow eye

[smoky mist]

Fucking agents from the matrix

[floral pecan]

Imma head to sleep for now, but if you need more info, there are notes on each thing

[smoky mist]

[unkempt ridge]

I have a problem with that since even with all limbs destroyed, the bat won't kill a giant so I wanted to rely on the hp staggering

[smoky mist]

Is there a pro to using a bat?

[rigid sinew]

stagger machine

1 shot full charge head

[smoky mist]

Like I get the knife. Fucking shreds sleepers. And hammer for life but

[rigid sinew]

charges fast

[smoky mist]

I don’t think I’ve ever used the bat tbh

[unkempt ridge]

I mean he's asking for the bat specifically so don't answer something all the weapons can do

[smoky mist]

Knife charges fast and 1 shots sleepers

[floral pecan]

Soloing a giant with a bat is where you are wrong to begin with

Doable but will take you a while

[smoky mist]

Solo Giant with hammer ez

[unkempt ridge]

taking a while isn't the problem

the problem is the bug (apparently) making the bat unable to stun sometimes

[floral pecan]

I'd assume it is just as a sledge in that case, but idk i don't use the bat

[smoky mist]

Spear prob even easier since you can prob just corner pop down the hall lol

[solid spear]

Solo giant with knife ez

[smoky mist]

With yellow syringe yes 😂

And if he sleeps

[solid spear]

No

[smoky mist]

I cannot stagger a giant with knife so solo no go for me lol

[solid spear]

Lmao

[smoky mist]

With a buddy sure haha

[unkempt ridge]

what does (low noise) means next to knife ? @floral pecan

[solid spear]

No

[smoky mist]

Whoosh

[solid spear]

Solo

Solo knife a giant

[smoky mist]

I can try 😂 but once it wakes up ummm idk what I’m gonna do lol even if I bait tongues I’m still gonna get slapped from range

His arm> my knife 😂

[solid spear]

You just shank it bro

[smoky mist]

Yes

And take 40

[solid spear]

40?

[smoky mist]

Fuck it ima knife a giant charger

And yes have you never walked into a giant

[solid spear]

Now that is the ultimate power

[smoky mist]

If you collide with a giant and don’t stagger it he will double bitch slap you for 40 dmg

And he’s on it lol

[solid spear]

Nah

I bitch slap back

[smoky mist]

Csgo fight giants

[solid spear]

There will be just a long stare down between me and giant

[smoky mist]

Then you shank it to death like vr Skyrim?

[solid spear]

I haven't played skyrim so i wouldn't know what your talking about

[floral pecan]

@unkempt ridge not sure on that one

[fleet vessel]

tips for the class V on B1, solo (no bots)?

I'm running burst sentry, in case that matters, but I figure that moving the burst sentry with me during the alarm is probably the best way to deal with it?

it's especially annoying that I'm not good enough to do the class IV alarm on every try, so I have to retry a bunch of times for each failure at the class V

DMR/Sniper/BurstSentry should work fine, right?

[steel valley]

sniper is pretty much the worst solo weapon for b1

i would definitely swap it for something with better utility

[fleet vessel]

choke-mod?

[steel valley]

you can just funnel them down the left side by opening both doors, and putting the sentry in the hallway

choke is pretty bad too imo

[fleet vessel]

I'd typically use the rev but then I'm basically useless against giants so I stopped using rev in solo runs

[steel valley]

when solo you want fast reloads or high mag capacity

[fleet vessel]

use smth else than DMR with rev maybe?

[fleet vessel]

makes sense

what are good solo weapons in that case?

[steel valley]

sawed off or pistol with the revo is nice

pump shotgun is good

[fleet vessel]

sawed-off for the oh-shit-u-close-goodbye and revo for stable hits, I reckon

[steel valley]

yeah

[fleet vessel]

sawed-off also works against giants - run up, triple face blast, burst sentry can do the rest if they still alive

[steel valley]

basically flips your primary-secondary roles

[fleet vessel]

pump shotgun?

is that the normal one?

[steel valley]

yep

[fleet vessel]

yeah that one's fun too

[steel valley]

it’s an easy 8kills with very little aim required

[fleet vessel]

tru

[steel valley]

mg/har are good if you can land consistent shots

[fleet vessel]

I like the sniper bc it removes giants from the equation and can just delete 3 sleepers coming up during alarms
I don't aim well enough with weapons that have a constant recoil like mg/har, I miss too much

even if I try to burst em

[steel valley]

ah then don’t bother

i don’t think sniper is ever really worth it in solo except d1

[fleet vessel]

huh

[steel valley]

in solo you only have 2 weapons

[fleet vessel]

maybe in C3 since you can just delete the giant waves but yeah

[steel valley]

sniper makes it so that you have just 1

for general waves

i guess c3 makes sense too yeah

[fleet vessel]

sniper just seems useful bc u can kill 3 sleepers, and then take a short break to reload-cancel it to shoot with it agian, but it do be worse against waves

I noticed I just reload the DMR when shit hits the fan bc sniper's reload is slow

alrighty I'll rethink my loadout

that should make things easier

[steel valley]

gl

[fleet vessel]

thanks

[pulsar sage]

the precision multi of the spear works when i hit critspots e.g. the head of a normal striker right? does this mean i dont get any precision multi against chargers?

or does the back count as crit?

[warm yew]

Back is different because its based of player position relative to target

[steel valley]

back is a flat up to 2x multiplier, regardless of precision, that works on all non-boss enemies

[modest vault]

Can a knife kill a scout?

[noble sierra]

From the back to the head, yes.

[warped vigil]

it's extremely inconsistent though

the scout needs to face west or east iirc

[noble sierra]

It's actually... consistent. Just don't do that when scout is facing N/S.

[warped vigil]

it's not recommended you try

[warped vigil]

yeah well scouts picking directions is also inconsistent

and getting an actual opportunity to do so

better leave it to people with different melees

[vital sierra]

i still don't know about the n/s/w/e thing

since i somehow do it consistence

[lilac fulcrum]

don't worry too much, we've fixed it for the next patch anyways

[unkempt ridge]

that's nice

what about the bat's false stun or spear not piercing even in straight shot ?

[lilac fulcrum]

one bug at a time 😉

[unkempt ridge]

fair

[warped vigil]

so we can one hit kill chargers when they are facing north?

[lilac fulcrum]

back damage will function like how it's supposed to

[neon gust]

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-johnson-the-rock-eyebrow-gif-22322634

[thin pine]

epic embed fail

[craggy pier]

lol

[rancid python]

is there a way to like set the brightness more up?

since like on my friends screen it is so bright but on mine it is like if i would run with a candle in my hand in the dark

[buoyant quail]

does cfoam work on tanks?

[covert apex]

yes

but not worth it

[thin pine]

yeah it takes a lot of cfoam just to freeze it for a few seconds

[covert apex]

3 full charges

to freeze him for 2 seconds

2.5

[buoyant quail]

I assumed as much :p thanks

[coral field]

hey im at the end of c1 finished the moving security scan and the door still says emergency lock down any ideas?

nvm

figured it out

[fleet vessel]

pog

[fleet vessel]

you can change the brightness setting of your screen to be ultra-bright, which inadvertedly affects the games on it. I'd not advise as such however, too much brightness can actually be bad for the eyes.

[rancid python]

oh okay thank you

[ashen robin]

hey if you need any help with future levels my friend and I are happy to help out!!

[velvet fjord]

Im glad to see ur alive and hope ur doing well man

[fluid echo]

What’s yalls go-to weapon to pair with the sniper/scattergun?

Precision and bring the hel rev/dmr? Automatic with the assault rifle? Something else?

[raw zephyr]

What's a good spotter setup?

[fluid echo]

Wdym spotter?

[shrewd dirge]

Long range support? Dmr, hel gun.

[shrewd dirge]

All of thoes, but what i take depends on the level

[raw zephyr]

Like a scout class, I'm rather new to GTFO

[fluid echo]

Hmm there’s not really a scout class. Maybe biotracker, any preferred main and a sniper?

[raw zephyr]

Okay, thanks

[distant ice]

<@&408548765599793173>

[floral pecan]

primaries are always on preference imo

i always run DMR unless there are a lot of mothers, in that case i'd pick AR

just make sure that whatever gun you pick is good by itself

[viscid wolf]

go for some higher dmg weapon to compensate for not having a general use secondary

bullpup/ar/pistol/hel rev are my choices

[buoyant shard]

So I'm completely new to the game, and since all of my friends pulled the "I am to old for FPS games" card I tried a game with the bots - you can imagine how it went down.

I tried to take out one of the bigger guys, I think a Big Striker and it didn't work at all. Is there a way I am not seeing to synchronize a stealth attack with the bots or is this a tactic only available with human players?

[fleet vessel]

so uh

bots really don't do melees, sadly

[floral pecan]

there used to be, too op and removed it

also always feel free to hop into LFG

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[fleet vessel]

solo you'll have to take some kind of giant killer, or solo giants with spear/sledge

[floral pecan]

if you are new, spear is your safe bet, as all you have to do is

• stay outside their attack range
• full charge and break a limb each time

sledge is doable but a lot more difficult

[fluid acorn]

Can someone explain the secondary and overload sectors for cosmetics?

[buoyant shard]

Yeah I'll think I start LFG, I think it might be the best way to learn the ropes.

But man this game got me on the edge of my seat. This is so intense.

[rigid sinew]

.t vanity rewards

[uneven gulch]

You get one reward for completing each of the challenges in the 'Prisoner Apparel Requisition' list shown below. Rewards are selected from various pools. Additional reward chances will be available with future content drops (e.g., New Rundown releases)

https://imgur.com/a/eond8uF

[fluid acorn]

Yeah but what are the challenges?

[fleet vessel]

uh

mission objectvies

differ each mission, as objectives do

will be shown to you when you enter the area

??

[soft kiln]

secondary and overload sectors

[fluid echo]

For the giants you can stealth kill with bots

Take a spear, wait till bots huddle around you, fully charge attack the giants leg, start charging immediately and around 75% of a charge hit the other leg

This, with bots, will kill the giants stealth

[buoyant shard]

Will try that, thanks

[lofty pasture]

hey guys, quick question. we're doing r6c1, but we completed the scan where you have to follow the yellow zone before interacting with the door. now we have the objective to do the reset security protocol, but we cannot insert the command again

[fluid echo]

get the data cube from the door you opened

in a locker

[lofty pasture]

thank you very much, we did it! we feared having to do the whole thing again

[fluid echo]

Lol me and my team had the same problem when we first did it too

[lofty pasture]

ahaha that would have been a real problem, we quickly tried a random run for d1 but stopped at the reactor 4th wave, too many enemies and we ended with no ammo

[fluid echo]

Just to put it in perspective, d1 is easier than c2 secondary and c3 PE

[median wraith]

is there a general strat to running c2? A friend and I struggle when it comes to the alarms and being in the poison fog where one of us needs to hold the turbine.

and also does the air filtration only last for X amount of minutes? or do those pods perhaps fill the room with the fog again?

[fluid echo]

Secondary or only main?

[median wraith]

main

[fluid echo]

Fog repellers x 50

After the checkpoint door go left a bit and you can turn off the fog

[median wraith]

so we need to kinda deal with the max infection until we get the turbine and save the repellers?

[fluid echo]

Throw the fog repellers before the alarm so you don’t have to get the turbine

There should be enough repellers to throw them often tbh

I’ve never needed to back track but you can if you need more

[median wraith]

we didnt do a whole lot of backtracking, but we may have missed some because they seemed pretty scarce

[median wraith]

is this after the primary door?

[fluid echo]

The mother door?

Before

[jaunty bear]

please note this:

after you slot the second generator in

fog restarts slowly

itll pile up

then youll need to turn it off again at some stage

[median wraith]

that explains quite a bit. we would walk through rooms that we swore was cleared of fog earlier only to be huddled around that dang turbine

[jaunty bear]

a recommendation: slot the second generator in just before you do the next alarm door

it makes things 10000 times easier

[fluid echo]

^

Prep for the door first

[rigid sinew]

• Before the first vent reset, just being fast to reach the terminal before fog rises too high (or reinforce the respective doors before placing the first cell)
• Setting up for V class alarm before placing 2nd cell (that includes clearing 2 rooms away and if possible permafoam while doing the alarm)
• After the alarm, reset the vent system as fast as possible, then get to the zone with the disinfection station
• Choose a path

>>>In case of secondary<<<
- Preload main up to 80%, then completely load secondary
- Loot the room and prepare for the alarm
- Place sentries on the left path
- When doing the scan, everyone has to stay as close to the left part of the scan so that enemies only go through the left side
- After scan, have 1-2 people go for the bulk key while other 2-3 take care of the hybrids in the S alarm room (don't go outside or they might spawn where the key is)
- After getting the key carry the cargo and go to bulkhead control panel

• Load the main objective
• Get to the mom room and cfoam it with the nades you can found in the disinfect room
  then continue with the cell and the turbine (unless you have some repellers left) [and the cargo if you are doing secondary]
• Continue to the third generator while taking down the scouts with a sniper or bonk (and foam+mine the back doors if secondary is active)
  find the generator and place the 3rd cell
• Mine the blood door
• G T F O
  

and try to not get a lot of infection

[median wraith]

does cfoaming the mom prevent those little ones from spawning? that's actually the spot we died at so i didnt get a good look what all was in that room

[jaunty bear]

if you cfoam it correctly yes

youll have a window to kill mom without children attempting to steal your wallet

[rigid sinew]

yes, that's why I recommend the c-nade

[jaunty bear]

ye

cnade is great for mothers

[shrewd dirge]

my parties dont bother foaming the mother in c2, because with 2 scatters and a sniper the mother leaves this plane of existence before the c-foam even lands.

[rigid sinew]

inb4 the mother starts running like sanic

[median wraith]

a lot of good information here. i appreciate yalls time responding to my question

[rigid sinew]

It's all for the C2 gigachad grindset

[raw zephyr]

Anyone got a good loadout for A1 solo

[stoic breach]

DMR + Hel Gun + Burst Sentry.

[viscid wolf]

hel rev hel gun burbst

[rough moss]

Is there a way to prevent bots from running away from objective in C1 when in the bio lab during the security protocol? I've had multiple runs where a random bot with head away from obj and head to a random position, before running all the way back. Also the bioscan bot just never bioscans once you have gone up the first set of stairs. I need help with these bots.

[midnight gazelle]

try the q menu

there is one to tell them to follow

idk if itll work

[indigo moat]

does a mine oneshot a scout?

[midnight gazelle]

uhh yeah but just snipe it or

melee

[neon gust]

You cannot prevent that from happening

its comepletly random

bio ping bots are getting conflicted with doing scans so sometimes it does sometimes they dotn

[icy nacelle]

It will.

[indigo moat]

thing is we dont have a sniper so

[midnight gazelle]

Do you have a spear or a sledge?

[indigo moat]

yes we have a hammer

[midnight gazelle]

Or do you have a scattergun, shotgun / choke mod shotgun, scatter?

[indigo moat]

nvm we have knives only

[midnight gazelle]

bruh

bruhhh

why would you bring knife only

[indigo moat]

well theres only 2 of us

[midnight gazelle]

do you have a shotgun, choke mod, or scatter?

[indigo moat]

shotty

[midnight gazelle]

Shotgun it in the head

point blank.

[rigid sinew]

just avoid it 4head

unless there is an alarm

[midnight gazelle]

i recommend not avoiding it since avoiding it gives you no practice on killing them

unless there are two or more

then avoid them because one WILL awake up

since you both have knifes

[rigid sinew]

i mean, if you are practicing you wouldn't bring a knoife

[indigo moat]

why cant u practice with a knife

also how many shotgun shots to kill a giant

[midnight gazelle]

you can't knife kill scouts

[indigo moat]

and we arent neccesarily practicing scout kills we just tryna 2 man levels

[jaunty bear]

which shotgun @indigo moat

[midnight gazelle]

thus i said shotty it lmao

[indigo moat]

The one titeled "Shotgun"

[rigid sinew]

i mean you can, but it's not something worth practicing for killing scouts in general

[jaunty bear]

there are 3 shotguns

which shotgun

[midnight gazelle]

he has normal shotty

[jaunty bear]

ah

[indigo moat]

it just says shotgun in menu

[jaunty bear]

cant say since i havent actually used the regular shotty in a long time, sorry

[rigid sinew]

i think any shotgun can do the job

just gotta be point blank

[midnight gazelle]

honestly when you use shotty, one or two shots then start meleeing but eh.. you have knife

[rigid sinew]

except for the choke, that one has more range

[indigo moat]

can knife stagger giant?

like full charge

[wary linden]

If it break a limb yes

[jaunty bear]

if you somehow knock a limb off

[indigo moat]

cause like could we chain knife hits back and forth

[rigid sinew]

it can, but requires multiple charges

[indigo moat]

and keep em from hitting us

[wary linden]

Also normal shotgun is 2 shot shot to the back. 4-5 to the front

[indigo moat]

oh so we could just shoot it in the back?

[jaunty bear]

i suppose yea

[wary linden]

If you want to yeah. Shotgun do stagger giant pretty easily

But if you are in their back. 2 clean shot should kill them

If you are too far away then it's 3 shot to kill

[rigid sinew]

occiput melee, then shoot it

[indigo moat]

does the game scale with the amount of people you have

[solid spear]

No

It seems there is no random generation this time

If you solo everything the maps gonna stay the same size nothing changes except loot

Or resources

[covert apex]

Not true

[viscid wolf]

well numbers of resources stay the same most of the time

locations and enemy locations will change

[covert apex]

That’s called rng

[viscid wolf]

R4 rng moment

[solid spear]

The maps all look the same to me

[covert apex]

Not reliably

[solid spear]

C3 B2 C2 And D3 never change

[covert apex]

Resources dont scale according to x amount of players

[solid spear]

I never said resources

[indigo moat]

not resources but enemy health and shit

or amount of enemies'

[covert apex]

Doesn’t change

[indigo moat]

ight

[solid spear]

He was asking does the map getting bigger or small if there are more or less players

[indigo moat]

welp we seeing how many we can duo currently

[covert apex]

The entire rundown

I’ve done it

[indigo moat]

so i was just seeing how far we might be able to get

well ur probably mister 500 hours no?

mister speedrun stealth

[solid spear]

Eh

[covert apex]

Mister +1000 hour

[neon gust]

y'all clowns

[indigo moat]

i bet you speedrun the stealth dont you

[covert apex]

yeh i ruin immersions

[solid spear]

Bunny hops my friend

[neon gust]

theres no enemy scaling

[solid spear]

It makes less sound

[indigo moat]

well im an immersion player

[covert apex]

Doesn’t work

[neon gust]

Theres no bhops anymore

[covert apex]

Got patched

[neon gust]

y'all outdated

[solid spear]

I know

It do be sad lol

[covert apex]

How?

[solid spear]

Can't bunny hop anymore

[covert apex]

Good

[covert apex]

That’s the sole purpose of someone who mains knife

[solid spear]

Hehe

I am guilty

[covert apex]

ok

[solid spear]

[viscid wolf]

casual flex

[solid spear]

Mmm the F emoji doesn't work

:F_:

Sad

[viscid wolf]

[solid spear]

How

[viscid wolf]

skill issue

:F_:

[neon gust]

[viscid wolf]

theres an underscore

[covert apex]

underscore deez nuts

[solid spear]

It doesn't bring it up

For me

[viscid wolf]

just use the emote menu

[solid spear]

I have

:F_:

It doesn't want to

[covert apex]

[viscid wolf]

ahah

that's a rip

unfortunate

[solid spear]

Yes

It is what it is

[covert apex]

get uced

[solid spear]