There is ladder next to the door. Hide at the top of the ladder and let the babies climb up
#gtfo-related-questions
midnight gazelle
steel valley
the babies will rush but she will stay back
rigid sinew
cfoam 
minor fractal
Either end the level with error alarm active, or only visit the first branch in the dark path (which has two terminals at the end).
fleet vessel
There is ladder next to the door. Hide at the top of the ladder and let the babi...
that... that's genius, thanks
also good idea, thanks
and this is why I ask questions on the discord 
lots of neat strats we can try
noble sierra
No point of only get 2 terminals from error zone. But it's good to get 2 terminals only from dark zone.
minor fractal
No point of only get 2 terminals from error zone. But it's good to get 2 termina...
Tbh, it's not a bad strat since 3 terminals from dark path isn't that hard.
midnight gazelle
Imagine not doing secondary
minor fractal
The 2 terminals are by far harder to reach than the 1 terminal in the second branch.
stoic breach
Secondary is scary :< I heard Majora's Mask is in there.
midnight gazelle
Yes
Funny thing. Once you know the terminal unlock code, you can skip the alarm lmaoo
noble sierra
What I'm trying to say is, ignoring the terminal in Z203 saves siginificant amount of time & effort. But ignore a terminal in Z200 is pointless.
midnight gazelle
Alarm is assas
minor fractal
If you're going to do the dark path at all, don't be afraid to go for all 3.
steel valley
checkpoint clears on d2 secondary are worth very little lol
there's nothing hard about holding a single door
stoic breach
You would be disappointed with my luck Mit
midnight gazelle
Lmao, somehow my team got absolutely swarmed from one door even tho we had two doors open
minor fractal
D2 is actually an extremely cool level with all of its routing.
noble sierra
All 4 D levels are kinda cool in some way.
minor fractal
True.
fleet vessel
^
minor fractal
R6 is kind of really high quality for the hardcore playerbase.
fleet vessel
I've not seen all of em yet by far since we've not gotten that far, but damn they are fun to die in
lapis mauve
But seriously tho, need to patch the player location bug in d4 lol
fleet vessel
R6 is kind of really high quality for the hardcore playerbase.
they can give more extremely hardcore content bc the not-hardcore players can just use checkpoints really often
whilst the hardcore-hardcore players try to get at least one non-checkpoint full-complete run of everything
stoic breach
This is true, but I wish it were more brutally difficult.
fleet vessel
witnessing that Tier 6 in D1 for the first time, completely underprepared, we had to try it 8 times
we're still gonna try to eventually get D1 fully without a single checkpoint, which shouldn't be too hard
just consistency
we've not actually gotten through anything but the 1's and B2 yet, and the B2 run we had was... buggy to say the least
same with C1
so we're gonna redo both
minor fractal
This is true, but I wish it were more brutally difficult.
I think they've done a good job of addressing some balance issues (scattergun mainly).
D2 especially got a lot of changes to the ||flyer alarm|| and scout wave composition.
The dark path is actually very nasty if you mess up, when it used to be "oh no, 12 enemies, what will we do?"
steel valley
after the changes d2 is probably the hardest mission in the rundown imo
minor fractal
You could focus on birthers and ignore the waves, and now you have to juggle both or you die.
fleet vessel
interesting
stoic breach
idk if D2 is. I still might put it on D3.
minor fractal
^
steel valley
d3 feels very easy to me after figuring out the route
minor fractal
Although, if you can cope with the fog Overload is surprisingly a non-issue.
latent obsidian
Talking about just main or all sectors?
steel valley
it's confusing at first but if even one guy knows the way there really isn't a specific point people fail at
pe
minor fractal
And I happen to know what every tile looks like and can look like.
latent obsidian
I feel like D3 is probably harder then, really just the end of the reactor in the fog is rough
minor fractal
And, being the designated solo player in the static for D3, fog is pretty easy to manage.
Learning the ending was the hardest part, but it's definitely manageable.
You have repellers, you can push up in the warm-up period after the code fails, and you have a nice high elevation area to hold out in and fight the tank.
latent obsidian
D2 extreme is a bit harder now but I wouldn't consider main challenging at all as long as you can deal with the class V charger alarm
steel valley
the cfoam trips make the tank pretty trivial
you can instantly kill it if you pack two boss killing weapons
stoic breach
Bring back the true 1.0 D2 Flyer alarm.
minor fractal
We usually have two scatterguns, so...
latent obsidian
Hm, have never taken the cfoam tripmines for that, thats a nice tech
noble sierra
I actually think that the hardest part of D2 is corrupted uplink now.
steel valley
always was
stoic breach
I want 60 back in my face with no chance of survival aside from ADADADA spam.
latent obsidian
We normally take a bit to kill it using fog repellers and the reactor wave starts crashing on us, its a mess
Do you need 2 cfoam trips or just one?
minor fractal
We normally take a bit to kill it using fog repellers and the reactor wave start...
This is why you fight it in the key zone.
No fog.
stoic breach
🧠
steel valley
shadows will die to low mine and the tank will push the cfoam trip
minor fractal
You flank it in the two side rooms, and if waves crash too early you just clear them while stalling out the tank.
latent obsidian
Thats good tech. A couple of friends still need to clear that level so will make sure to try that next time
minor fractal
Fog pretty much only matters for whoever is code hunting, so if they can cope with it then it doesn't matter at all.
Bio also helps me clear, usually.
Both because they have bio and because our bio is our secondary solo player.
steel valley
gl convincing pubs to take double bio
they are far too attached to their burst sentries
steel valley
oh
lol
i like the double bio setup for faster codes
and for the initial alarm phase
latent obsidian
I can only see it being useful for having the shadows pinged in the waves and also navigating for the key
minor fractal
Shadows are easy to see, ngl, it only really matters for sentries.
latent obsidian
But it seems like too large a sacrifice to bring 2
steel valley
idk what to even do with a second sentry
minor fractal
And 2 sentries 1 bio is more effective than 1 sentry 2 bios.
steel valley
the waves are not bad enough to really warrant it
double bio means i can split up in secondary :)
latent obsidian
Do you need to split up? We just charge around as a group, pull and blast each room
minor fractal
I feel like most people struggle with shadows a lot more than I do, though, tbf.
minor fractal
Do you need to split up? We just charge around as a group, pull and blast each r...
It's faster as long as your teams of 2 can fight the rooms.
I essentially just had my partner ping shit while I scattered everything I came across.
But again, I think I'm fairly unique in not finding shadows to be a big deal.
latent obsidian
Hm I guess it would be faster but theres ample time either way
I normally run bio so I'll be focussing on pinging them rather than trying to spot them
minor fractal
Even most experienced groups rely a lot on their bio for shadows, was something I never agreed with in R4E1.
dire juniper
I have trouble picking between the spear and the hammer, the overhead on the hammer is akward on some tall enemies but the spear can't clear rooms as well
steel valley
spear is just a training wheels hammer without the cleave
minor fractal
I normally run bio so I'll be focussing on pinging them rather than trying to sp...
You don't really need to see them unless they're awake.
dire juniper
spear is just a training wheels hammer without the cleave
so TLDR is git gud with hammer?
minor fractal
If you're flashlighting everything, which you should be doing anyway if there are dark spots or thick fog, you will trigger glows which gives you all of the info you need.
latent obsidian
Hammer seems like the best choice to me
minor fractal
For big shadows, I'm typically trying to first locate the two of them before ambushing one and then trying to visually spot the other.
latent obsidian
What are you taking instead of the bio though? I get you can do it without but the convenience seems worth it
minor fractal
so TLDR is git gud with hammer?
Pretty much, hammer is good at everything if you understand it while other weapons help bad players pull off more.
minor fractal
What are you taking instead of the bio though? I get you can do it without but t...
Mines, since I'm the solo player.
Lets me deal with blood doors and I can fast clear rooms by alerting them.
latent obsidian
Why do you need to be soloing blood doors?
What are your teammates doing in the reactor downtime, getting drinks? 😛
midnight gazelle
Yes
minor fractal
Usually I'm not alone, but since I'm the first in line to get keys and such it's just easier if I can set up everything on my own.
And again, mines have a ton of solo utility for fast clearing.
fleet vessel
question - can hammer full-charge break giant parts to stagger them?
latent obsidian
yes
midnight gazelle
Yes
minor fractal
question - can hammer full-charge break giant parts to stagger them?
Don't need full charge either, but you do need a very high charge.
midnight gazelle
Bat can also
midnight gazelle
Bat is better ngl
fleet vessel
spear's not meta since it's cleave got removed
what's the diff between bat and hammer?
midnight gazelle
You just cant melee scouts well
fleet vessel
ah
minor fractal
If we factor in back damage, then hammer needs even less charge to break limbs.
fleet vessel
less weakspot and more general damage?
midnight gazelle
what's the diff between bat and hammer?
Faster charge on bat. Easier to clear hormal sleepers.
latent obsidian
bat charges quicker, has shorter reach, and a bit less damage
fleet vessel
ah
latent obsidian
It might have more stagger damage, I'm not sure
fleet vessel
okay that makes sense
midnight gazelle
It might have more stagger damage, I'm not sure
I think it does
fleet vessel
yeah probs gonna run mostly hammer then
minor fractal
It might have more stagger damage, I'm not sure
It would if hammer wasn't given a stagger multi.
noble sierra
Bat has great stagger value.
midnight gazelle
Hammer is nice if you wanna stealth kill scouts. I usually stick with bat tho
Just my preference
noble sierra
It's actually safer than hammer to solo a giant with a bat...just takes much longer.
minor fractal
Also, I'm of the opinion that base stagger matters considerably less than limb destruction stagger.
midnight gazelle
They can one shot
fleet vessel
Also, I'm of the opinion that base stagger matters considerably less than limb d...
definitely
fleet vessel
They can one shot
oh?
midnight gazelle
They cant one shot charger giants or charger scouts
minor fractal
hammer can't one-shot chargers, right?
Back damage is very broken rn, it's supposed to OHKO.
latent obsidian
back damage is a bit bugged atm so sometimes you don't kill them in one
mossy aurora
Bat has a stagger multi of 3 and full charge damage of 15 I think
latent obsidian
If not you can give them one more little tap
mossy aurora
Hammer is stagger multi 1 and full charge of 20
fleet vessel
yeah hammer it is
latent obsidian
So do you not have to target limbs with the bat when staggerlocking a giant?
fleet vessel
isn't the spear near-useless then, if not for the long reach and easier timings (hitting the air and swiping onto the enemy)
fleet vessel
So do you not have to target limbs with the bat when staggerlocking a giant?
fairly certain you do
midnight gazelle
isn't the spear near-useless then, if not for the long reach and easier timings ...
Spear bad
fleet vessel
that multiplier ain't big enough
floral acorn
had multiple wtfs in d2 yday, chargers facing north. its real.
minor fractal
isn't the spear near-useless then, if not for the long reach and easier timings ...
It's a crutch.
mossy aurora
Wait let me check
fleet vessel
It's a crutch.
figures
I loved it when I could multi-hit sleepers but never switched away from it 🤡
guess I was being stoopid
minor fractal
Bat is okay if you can time the stagger correctly, but hammer can operate the same way, so it's kind of w/e.
fleet vessel
knife seems useful when you do errors, since shorter charge time. You do need to be more accurate tho, and a good hammer player can do that too
mossy aurora
Ok no bat has full charge stagger damage of 60
fleet vessel
so basically hammer for normal, bat for speedruns
mossy aurora
Sledge is 100
midnight gazelle
Knife is bad ngl. You can’t kill giants with it basically
fleet vessel
^^
latent obsidian
Knife is fun but outside of trying to do A1 quickly with it solo I haven't used it much
minor fractal
Hammer is also better for titan duo, so I'd recommend it way more for sure.
fleet vessel
it's fun to run through rooms and do the stabby stab but it's objectively bad
latent obsidian
Maybe if friends are bringing better giant killers
fleet vessel
Hammer is also better for titan duo, so I'd recommend it way more for sure.
charge time, right?
midnight gazelle
Bat better compensates for lack of kiting since the faster charge up
minor fractal
charge time, right?
More damage per swing, better limb destruction.
Vs. bat which will waste limbs and requires back damage to function.
Will be really nice when back damage is fixed, I think one reason knife and bat feel better than they actually are is that back damage has made triple kills on hammer extremely unreliable.
stoic breach
Are they still reliable without head occiput? theoretically.
minor fractal
If sleepers are facing E/W, it's still very easy to absolutely chew through lots of enemies in stealth, most of the delay isn't charging your swing it's waiting on glows.
minor fractal
Are they still reliable without head occiput? theoretically.
Wym?
fleet vessel
wait the hammer deals more damage than the spear
the game's descriptions of the weapons is a lie
minor fractal
Spear has more precision.
minor fractal
But it takes more charge to hit important breakpoints.
Which is why it's not super good.
minor fractal
Like fast killing 3 nestled sleepers without getting licked.
Yeah, it's not hard, 0-charge works on shooters and you need over 30% for strikers.
fleet vessel
spear at half charge killing normal sleepers is fun tho, so I'd argue it's usable - the hammer is just objectively better, isn't it
stoic breach
Oh. I thought the 0-charge kills were removed.
minor fractal
Kill shooters first and go for strikers based on their animations.
fleet vessel
0-charge?
minor fractal
Oh. I thought the 0-charge kills were removed.
It's a lot tighter, the positioning, because hammer min damage was nerfed from 4 to 3.
fleet vessel
h o w
minor fractal
Back damage + head damage.
stoic breach
Time to go into B1, I suppose.
noble sierra
Only enough for a shooter now, not a striker.
minor fractal
Striker charge time is very short, though.
I like the change, tbh, makes things a lot more skill-based.
If you position poorly, or mistime charges, you do get punished.
fleet vessel
so with the hammer you don't have to charge up a lot at all?
huh
if you get the multipliers, that i
*is
midnight gazelle
Did he just call it a stagger sentry?
fleet vessel
I mean
junior wraith
its the only sentry with a stagger I couldnt member its name
fleet vessel
you have anti-giant sentry, stagger sentry and kill sentry
yes?
sniper, auto and burst
auto is stagger
on that topic
sentry opinions?
midnight gazelle
Burst best sentry rn
stoic breach
Burst only
junior wraith
question about D1
fallow night
but I wanna
Bring heavy weapons. Scattergun or sniper. Anything that can blast apart a big one reliably.
Also, I hope you like ass visibility, because if you thought fog was bad, HOO BOY
OHOHOHOHO
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
fleet vessel
and it got nerfed to like half speed LOL
latent obsidian
Was an auto fan before but burst definitely seems good right now
desert dune
so is gtfo a game thats inpossible to give a try as a solo? i really just wana know if id enjoy the game or not
midnight gazelle
It’s still better than the sniper rn
midnight gazelle
so is gtfo a game thats inpossible to give a try as a solo? i really just wana k...
Its not impossible lmao
fallow night
question about D1
2 burst, foamer, biotracker
fleet vessel
so is gtfo a game thats inpossible to give a try as a solo? i really just wana k...
give a try solo is possible thanks to bots
playing solo is possible if you have some knowledge and skill, but that's difficult
junior wraith
do you need to turn on the air filtration or can you go straight through room 86
stoic breach
so is gtfo a game thats inpossible to give a try as a solo? i really just wana k...
Technically every level has been solo'd on video besides D3 and C3
fleet vessel
completing everything solo is basically world-top-players only so don't bother trying
minor fractal
so with the hammer you don't have to charge up a lot at all?
Yeah, pretty much. It's meant you can do a lot in stealth for a very long time, and even with the nerf to hammer min damage it's still easily the strongest melee imo, it's just very skill-based as to whether or not it will be good.
junior wraith
because I noticed its accessible after the reactor reset
desert dune
playing solo is possible if you have some knowledge and skill, but that's diffic...
good thing i enjoy playing the hard way and learning the hard way
fallow night
do you need to turn on the air filtration or can you go straight through room 86
Air filtration sounds like something that removes toxic fog, so I would DEFINITELY do that.
fleet vessel
good thing i enjoy playing the hard way and learning the hard way
^^
junior wraith
Air filtration sounds like something that removes toxic fog, so I would DEFINITE...
Its just by that point we were out of resources and it was chaos to go there
minor fractal
The only thing holding it back is the back damage issue, and even then I feel like I can clear very easily.
fleet vessel
you can also always ask for an introduction from an experienced person, who's just there to stop you from dying and lets you do everything with some tips and explanations
desert dune
played overwatch on concole for over a year and my friends asked me why my aim was shit then i realized i didint have aim assist lol
floral acorn
d1 check out the hotbox speedruns, u can skip all
fleet vessel
Air filtration sounds like something that removes toxic fog, so I would DEFINITE...
:)
that's... behind a door that has no energy
and there's a reactor in the other direction (:
junior wraith
2 burst, foamer, biotracker
why 2 burst? are auto's bad?
fleet vessel
yes
stoic breach
death is the best stagger
fleet vessel
wastes of ammo that don't actually do shit
death is the best stagger indeed
staggers fewer enemies, but a double-burst killzone lets almost nothing but chargers, giants or surges through
from what I've seen
whilst double auto wastes all their ammo and then... they're empty
have fun now
topaz anvil
Imo stagger is better than death
finite plinth
i wish auto sentries users, an unpleasant expedition run
minor fractal
I've considered making a comprehensive stealth guide, even, but the information was way too dense imo. Once back damage gets fixed, I'll probably make a guide for multi-kills.
junior wraith
i wish auto sentries users, an unpleasant expedition run
thats mean
fleet vessel
it's true tho
topaz anvil
I've considered making a comprehensive stealth guide, even, but the information ...
Step 1: Take knife
Step 2: profit
minor fractal
Knife is dog, unironically.
fleet vessel
Step 1: Hammer everything without waking anything up
Step 2: More profit
junior wraith
Bring heavy weapons. Scattergun or sniper. Anything that can blast apart a big o...
is the special revolver viable? I generally use the sniper but it has very few ammo which can be spooky for me
fallow night
is the special revolver viable? I generally use the sniper but it has very few a...
Depends on what you want.
minor fractal
is the special revolver viable? I generally use the sniper but it has very few a...
It's very strong sustained wave clear, but it's not very good at burst or damage into titans.
junior wraith
also I tend to bring machine pistol or smg for primary, other primaries have little ammo and scare me away
fallow night
Yeah, I often use it with the burst rifle or other AR-like weapon. It works pretty well, you soften them up with the first gun, and then blow em open with the magnum.
fallow night
also I tend to bring machine pistol or smg for primary, other primaries have lit...
>machine pistol
BLARGH
UGH
VOMIT
🤮
junior wraith
is it bad?
minor fractal
MP is good, just hard to use.
Well, actually, revolver has good sustained damage, but it's very much sustained, hardly burst at all.
junior wraith
I tend to find it shreds when I use it, and I can usually stretch out its ammo pretty well
referring to the machine pistol
minor fractal
MP has poor range and is hard to control, but it's very efficient, it shoots fast, and it has a very short reload.
It's definitely strong.
The only particularly underwhelming primary this rundown is carbine due to missing an important striker breakpoint.
junior wraith
are there other weapons not in this rundown or is it just a consumable thing
fallow night
is it bad?
I despise it, personally.
junior wraith
I despise it, personally.
what primary do you use?
fallow night
what primary do you use?
It varies a lot, on account of I constantly agonize over my loadout.
Usually it's something like the Burst Rifle or Bullpup, but I do really like the pistol.
fleet vessel
I wanna try out the normal pistol. "Expert" opinions before I start doing that?
viscid wolf
are there other weapons not in this rundown or is it just a consumable thing
There are many other weapons not in this rundown
viscid wolf
I wanna try out the normal pistol. "Expert" opinions before I start doing that?
Can you aim
fleet vessel
yes
junior wraith
pistol is good
viscid wolf
do you have 90k on gridshot in aimlab
minor fractal
I wanna try out the normal pistol. "Expert" opinions before I start doing that?
It has very good stagger and a very good fire-rate, not to mention it's very efficient. It mostly suffers at range, but it's a very strong semi-auto.
fleet vessel
I figure pistol'll be somewhat easier since less recoil?
minor fractal
All of the semi-autos rn are strong, though.
weary mesa
Old pistol used to require aim now it don’t
fleet vessel
It has very good stagger and a very good fire-rate, not to mention it's very eff...
ranged shots? Who does ranged shots
I've taken to quite literally having my team double or triple burstsentry kill-zone with full open door
since we are rarely more than 3 peeps and typically want one with bio
mines and cfoam doors? What's that?
(Yes, we do know how to use that and will do so, but typically we don't when trying out stuff for the first time)
viscid wolf
do burst weapons count as semi auto
viscid wolf
The only particularly underwhelming primary this rundown is carbine due to missi...
can you elaborate on this btw I'm interested
fleet vessel
probably a certain point of breaking a part or staggering?
dire juniper
Is it better to kill scouts from the front or back?
minor fractal
can you elaborate on this btw I'm interested
Carbine's main advantage is that it's a fast-firing weapon with a short reload. Problem is, it doesn't two-burst strikers, it three-bursts them, which makes it hard to justify taking over burst rifle, machine pistol, or bullpup rifle, which all share a number of the advantages the carbine has without this rather crippling disadvantage.
viscid wolf
ah
dire juniper
Also back damage is bugged right now right?
viscid wolf
yes
viscid wolf
but hitting the back of the head is already much harder to justify
viscid wolf
is it meant to do more?
back does 2x the damage
junior wraith
with everything?
junior wraith
even bullets?
viscid wolf
except special enemies
yes
dont bother with bullets though
since they'll face towards you most of the time
dire juniper
but hitting the back of the head is already much harder to justify
how so?
viscid wolf
because they walk away from you
and when they extend their feelings their head dips a little
it's not that hard
minor fractal
whats back damage
The game has a flanking bonus based on your facing compared to your target's facing, which maxes out in a 22.5 degree cone behind them for a 2x multiplier. Doesn't apply to bosses and minibosses, doesn't apply to tools (sentries and mines).
viscid wolf
but it's not worth the risk most of the time
fleet vessel
and why is the back damage broken atm?
viscid wolf
something with the code
minor fractal
and why is the back damage broken atm?
Some unknown issue related to cardinal directions.
junior wraith
is it just not working atm
fleet vessel
wait what
viscid wolf
it works
fleet vessel
cardinal directions matter
viscid wolf
just really inconsistent
fleet vessel
but why
strange canopy
when do you guys think that new the new rundown will be out a question for my new friends and i
fleet vessel
just standing behind em
viscid wolf
and hitting it
fleet vessel
yes
viscid wolf
no idea
junior wraith
but why
it probably compares categories of cardinal directions, since its easy to split it up into eight directions
fleet vessel
okay so
should you still bother trying to get back multipliers or can you currently ignore them
minor fractal
Back damage functions normally for enemies facing E/W, but if they face N/S it breaks for some reason.
viscid wolf
okay so
should you still bother trying to get back multipliers or can you curren...
still
I mean depends on the enemy
minor fractal
it probably compares categories of cardinal directions, since its easy to split ...
This, it's probably something to do w/ XYZ coordinates.
viscid wolf
chargers if it's by itself it does matter since you can stagger it either way
go for the back
fleet vessel
alright
viscid wolf
if it doesnt register just tap 3(2?) more times
junior wraith
This, it's probably something to do w/ XYZ coordinates.
It could also be comparing local rotation which is very likely to be inconsistent
minor fractal
It could also be comparing local rotation which is very likely to be inconsisten...
wym?
junior wraith
because the initial rotation of a creature could be the "default" 0 rotation for said creature, which means it could lead to desync with the players rotation
minor fractal
Ah.
But in that case you'd expect it to always work when facing a particular direction
junior wraith
At least I've ran into similar things in unity
minor fractal
which doesn't seem to be the case.
junior wraith
For the most part 100%
latent obsidian
when do you guys think that new the new rundown will be out a question for my ne...
based on previous rundowns maybe 3-6 months. Its also likely they add a few more levels to this rundown before releasing another. If they don't do that rundown 7 should come sooner
fluid echo
What’s the difference between the assault rifle and the bull pup? I feel like the bull pup is just better at the same crowd control role
mellow salmon
Reload of bullpup sucks, reload of AR is great
minor fractal
Reload, AR has less damage fall-off over range (even though bullpup is very easy to aim over range), AR has more damage, bullpup has a better precision multi.
rigid sinew
death is the best stagger
imo it is way better to slow down a wave instead of killing it fast
the way the game spawns them makes it so the faster you kill it the more waves you have to fight against
minor fractal
Also why permafoam and c-foam in general is strong af.
hardy burrow
Will GTX 980mx run this game?
hardy burrow
Hm, alright
rigid sinew
Also why permafoam and c-foam in general is strong af.
cfoam, auto sentry and the good old unreliable intimidation mechanic
desert falcon
What’s the secondary objective in D3?
collect IDs
mellow mauve
How do you activate it?
weary mesa
Secondary bulkhead dc and door are in the zone behind the class 4 during main’s reactor
Need the key from main to open it which is located in last code zone
Could use the one from overload but that requires more finesse
But you have a checkpoint so it don’t really matter too much
jaunty totem
Anyone have any tips for C2 w/ secondary? Really struggling in those last rooms before blood door
minor fractal
Anyone have any tips for C2 w/ secondary? Really struggling in those last rooms ...
What's the main issue?
jaunty totem
Basically getting through fast enough while not triggering scout waves
mossy aurora
Have 1-2 people stay back in the mother room and clear the hybrids, push forward with the other 2-3, one with a sniper
Just snipe the scouts and pull the rooms
minor fractal
Any weapon that kills scouts works as well, sniper is arguably better spent on hybrids.
mossy aurora
Move cargo/cell up once scout rooms are clear
minor fractal
If they're in a good spot, just melee them immediately and rush the rest of the room.
If they're in a bad spot, shotgun, scattergun, or snipe.
mossy aurora
Any weapon that kills scouts works as well, sniper is arguably better spent on h...
If they're having trouble with c2 ext then I'm assuming that they will struggle to get full use out of sniper on hybrids
minor fractal
Maybe.
jaunty totem
Did have a sniper problem was just that the scouts constantly went behind some walls where the head out of sight
mossy aurora
Basically getting through fast enough while not triggering scout waves
But a big problem that groups do is trying to move up together too fast, then hybrid waves and fighting with doors open will trigger scouts
minor fractal
^ The move might genuinely be to play slower if ammo isn't that tight.
mossy aurora
I've played with lfg groups that had no ammo for ext part
jaunty totem
we had enough ammo up to the end mainly got screwd by just rushing too hard
mossy aurora
Yeah if you have the ammo you can play slower to clear the scouts
jaunty totem
but ty everyone, i think ill just try to optimise a bit more with the next group
mossy aurora
Is it more efficient to switch to primary to finish off a hybrid if you don't 1 shot it with scattergun?
Instead of shooting the same one twice
minor fractal
Depends on how well you landed your shot.
mossy aurora
You can one shot a hybrid point blank to the head I think
U have to be really close
minor fractal
If you missed a lot of it and hit the head very little, just do another one.
If you hit most of it, use main to finish the job.
You need to balance your ammo anyhow.
mossy aurora
Yeah true
Also it's funny to me how sniper players are either solo clearing everything, 3 giants per mag
Or they are 15% pistol ammo 100% sniper ammo asking for a hit of ammo
jaunty totem
if you just kill giants sniper is almost too ammo efficent
minor fractal
Always look for opportunities to burn sniper efficiently.
mossy aurora
Yeah just saying the skill range of sniper players seems to be larger than others
minor fractal
It's a tough weapon to use. Requires high accuracy, requires you understand the purpose of the weapon, requires you have the agency to actually use it without someone telling you to. Ngl, a lot of people take sniper because they hear something like "you need it for scouts," and that's the only reason they run it.
stoic breach
Tis why we hipfire the sniper only unless the target is more than 12 Teemos away
mossy aurora
I save sniper specifically for strikers that are on top of teammates
fleet vessel
I've not used sniper for scouts once in my life since I started playing in R4
jaunty totem
Played too many games where sniper hipfire fires 360°, so quickscoping it is
fleet vessel
Tis why we hipfire the sniper only unless the target is more than 12 Teemos away
what's a "Teemos"?
????? sniper hipfire in a 360°, w h a t
stoic breach
hipfire is anything but rng
jaunty totem
in this game nah
mossy aurora
Hip fire in this game is pretty consistent
jaunty totem
but in other games yeah, which i will never unlearn for any other game
stoic breach
It's only like what... Rust and Super People for bad hipfire rng?
mossy aurora
Except when I use hel revolver hip fire seems to miss every bullet
minor fractal
Hip fire is very weapon dependent, and tends to become considerably worse after the first shot.
From what I've heard, it has very poor spread recovery.
mossy aurora
Why is bullpup hip fire so tight
minor fractal
Bullpup is tight, bb
mossy aurora
😳
mossy aurora
if host is close to a scout it crouches for everyone right?
timid glade
I've had the host within a couple of meters and had it not crouch
very very inconsistent
timid glade
yep
fleet vessel
no
fluid echo
What’s the reasoning behind the scout only crouching for the host?
ruby wasp
None
shrewd dirge
almost a bug really, but super annoying and is honestly near the top of the list of things i wish they fixed
the top is terminal bugs, and checkpoint bugs.
ruby wasp
aren't both of these because of desyncs tho
thin pine
how quickly do ||mothers spawn babies||?
we were doing C2 again and i just wanna know how quickly it happens if we can actually survive even the first wave of them
ruby wasp
The moment they see you, they'll start screaming & hatching
After some time (i think it's around 30/40s ?) they'll start hatching again if enough babies have been killed
thin pine
i tried freezing it with a c-foam grenade and use shotgun on the tumors from the back but it wasn't frozen for long enough and it started spawning
it spawns so much that we got overwhelmed too quickly and died
ruby wasp
That's why you always leave someone to deal with the babies
covert apex
After some time (i think it's around 30/40s ?) they'll start hatching again if e...
She doesn’t max cap after 1 birth so she can still spawn them regardless of if you kill babies or not
Smh
thin pine
then what's the best way to deal with them
ruby wasp
Like i said
ruby wasp
If your foam grenade fails, leave someone deal with the babies
covert apex
And rush her
ruby wasp
If it's too far, deal with all the babies coming out of its mouth
thin pine
they aren't easy to shoot, they're too fast
covert apex
She’s bound to eventually sprint at you so use that window gap to have one person dealing with the babies
thin pine
they're literally the incarnation of minecraft baby zombies
ruby wasp
That's why you aim at their spawn spot
covert apex
They freeze for half a second after birthing
ruby wasp
As they don't move right away
thin pine
what weapon would be good for that
ruby wasp
scattergun xd
thin pine
thanks, we'll try again tomorrow
covert apex
Don’t rush unless you hear her screaming
thin pine
also one more thing, does adding more cfoam on a frozen enemy reset the freeze timer or do i have to wait until it unfreezes
covert apex
It resets it
covert apex
If you’re walking up to a sleeping mother don’t nade her when she’s pulsing
It’ll go right through her because hitbox doodoo
thin pine
it should be enough for her with a shotgun, right? with the one grenade i managed to pop almost all the tumors
thin pine
If you’re walking up to a sleeping mother don’t nade her when she’s pulsing
she spawns already awake at C2
ruby wasp
she spawns already awake at C2
That doesn't mean all the mothers you'll meet in this rundown trigger right away
covert apex
joe
thin pine
mothers are busy women, they work hard every day
ruby wasp
name every sleeping mother
Should i really do the "ur mom xd" joke
loud granite
only if u can get creative enough with it
ruby wasp
I'm more creative about dealing with my exams tbh
grim kite
Is it still possible to mine the tank ? 🤔
tawdry leaf
Far as I know?
Cryo mine works if you poke your head in and slap it in the doorway on the side at head height
I don't know if it's possible to stack them that close anymore though :/
fierce oracle
also one more thing, does adding more cfoam on a frozen enemy reset the freeze t...
To clarify, you have to fully refoam the enemy to reset the timer. If an enemy takes 6 cfoam blobs to freeze adding any thing less than that won’t do anything
Mom should take 17 cfoam blobs to freeze
grim kite
🤔
coral field
Am doing d1 just did the reactor and finding the green key but having serious trouble finding zone 93
is it behind a big door with orange lights has a class VI alarm
fleet vessel
that class IV is the progress to the end of the mission, the boss
if you've found the green key I'd recommend checking for a door that wants that, which should be somewhere above - in the opposite direction of the reactor from spawn. You can find a terminal to remove the fog there iirc
coral field
OOOOO
yea i know where the door for that is
but i dont know the zone in which to find the green key
ruby wasp
It's a door with checkpoint
Z92
or was it Z91 ?
i don't remember
Anyway you can query it on a terminal
It's a very funny zone btw
😳
fleet vessel
😳
covert apex
Is it still possible to mine the tank ? 🤔
Yes
Make sure he doesn’t sprint into the mines
But rather walks into them
grim kite
Make sure he doesn’t sprint into the mines
Hum it works like that now xD before he must run into it to die 🤣
Thanks
supple scroll
Does anyone have any tips on how to stealth kill scouts? I know I should be able to do a fully charged melee from behind, but every time I try they take damage, don't die, and go invulnerable. Do they have an unintuitive hitbox or am I missing something?
rain steeple
Whack em in the head with either a sledge or spear, that is a guaranteed kill for regular scouts
Don't try to go for the back
viscid wolf
Does anyone have any tips on how to stealth kill scouts? I know I should be able...
wait for them to retreat and walk towards you. Crouch walk towards them and charge. Bonk
If you mistimed, cancel and walk with the scout right under it so when it spreads it tentacles they wont touch you
covert apex
Yes
past shard
Does anyone have any tips on how to stealth kill scouts? I know I should be able...
You also have a second and a half time window if you get caught by a feeler to headshot the scout, but you need to be quick
craggy pier
why is c3 so hard
viscid wolf
because you didn't play with me
craggy pier
...
viscid wolf
I beat it first try so I haven't touched it much
craggy pier
huh
craggy pier
i do now
viscid wolf
pain
craggy pier
well time to fill up 2 terabytes with c3 fails
viscid wolf
good luck
supple scroll
Thanks everyone for the info as well!
viscid wolf
it's a mod that lets you mess around with only scouts
craggy pier
it should be in vanilla base game ngl
viscid wolf
eh
that's debatable
lemme check really fast
whats the mod thing called
I dont remember
craggy pier
idfk
hard pendant
Does anyone have any tips on how to stealth kill scouts? I know I should be able...
A few tips
-
Have the right weapon. Hammer and spear are the only melee you should try this with. The others weapons theoretically can kill with an occiput shot, but this is not reliable, even if standing in the perfect spot.
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Know your weapon. The hammer has an arc which makes it difficult sometimes to correctly hit the head unless you adjust for the arc. Often, hammer players will aim for the head and hit the shoulder, particularly at the edge of their range. The spear is more of a direct thrust and has more range, which makes hitting the head easier and more consistent.
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Avoid killing scouts from behind. It's possible to do at an advanced level, but it is more risky and difficult, so your chances of failure will skyrocket unless you really know what you're doing. The same applies to scouts on any sort of high ground, including stairs and ramps.
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Try to avoid going for the kill on a walking scout, because it can move unpredictably and may crouch on you when you go for the kill, messing up your aim. Once it extends tentacles, it will be locked into its animation and you won't get any surprises. You can force it to extend tentacles by sprinting near it, flashlighting it for a while, walking a lot near it or just waiting like 5s or so. You don't always have this luxury, but when you can, definitely take it, because it makes you life easier
viscid wolf
no I mean the mod installer
hard pendant
...that was longer than i was expecting xD
viscid wolf
it do be like that
viscid wolf
ah yes thanks
supple scroll
A few tips
1) Have the right weapon. Hammer and spear are the only melee you sho...
This is great, thanks so much!
craggy pier
ye updated for r6
viscid wolf
for a lot of scout practice
supple scroll
Thanks for the offer! I'm not able to play right now but I may take you up on that later
viscid wolf
I mean not to queue but to go through the installation process
keen solar
Can we talk about mod in the official server now?
pulsar lily
Is Lock melters ever useful
covert apex
Can we talk about mod in the official server now?
No
drifting jetty
Is there a mission to practice scout melee in R6?
covert apex
B2
drifting jetty
Really? I dont think I've seen any in B2
autumn musk
B2 Z58 usually has one (the security door to the left of the entry room)
finite plinth
take bots and solo c1 up to the 5 scouts room
die and checkpoint when you whiff or cleared them all
you can do it on b1 too
austere fractal
Is Lock melters ever useful
when you have a permanent alarm active and you need a keycard that's inside an electronic lock
you are going to smooch your lock melters for being fucking delightful
or even door locks i guess
finite plinth
play c3 and you'll beg for a lock melter
drifting jetty
Yeah I found the scout in B2. Thanks!
I've got another question, this time for D1. I've seen the room skipping strategy and it doesn't seem like a ton of mobs spawn during the class 6 alarm section. Is mob numbers affecting by something there?
finite plinth
the spawns are still the same
it's just an illusion you're fighting less with fog covering everything
drifting jetty
Ahh I see
craggy pier
Where does Zone_91C-92 lead in D1 Nemesis?
its the southern part of the west wing, and i dont understand what the use of it is
ancient ginkgo
Extra resources if you can get through the alarm, it can be useful for the class VI
craggy pier
So its a medium risk high reward resource cache
ancient ginkgo
High is a strong word; it's a bit of an odd zone as there should be a terminal in there but I've never found it
steel brook
Can you select which character you want to play before loading into a level?
covert apex
No
mossy aurora
High is a strong word; it's a bit of an odd zone as there should be a terminal i...
there's 11 uses of ammo in that zone
finite plinth
there is a terminal in there
minor plinth
is there anyway to make not bots use kits on you whenever they get their hands on it?
neon gust
is there anyway to make not bots use kits on you whenever they get their hands o...
Dont get hit
Dont fall below 80% on both guns
easy clap
minor plinth
very well
dreamy pecan
does the bot teleport to the security scan if he is stuck somewhere far away?
lapis mauve
You will need the host to kick the bot then re-enable them
dreamy pecan
oh thanks
modest vault
R6:C1 any tips?
desert falcon
R6:C1 any tips?
for any particular part of it?
modest vault
When we approach the second cube we always mess up
icy cave
When we approach the second cube we always mess up
the giants?
desert falcon
thats the zone with big guys and the scouts afterwards?
icy cave
We pulled the giants, but you could stealth it
modest vault
If a scout is in another room and we shoot will it alert it?
loud granite
we usually have the bio person stealth and rush the cube
loud granite
If a scout is in another room and we shoot will it alert it?
only if doors leading to it are open
modest vault
So if there are none it's safe to open fire?
icy cave
For the scouts, stealth. If one wakes up. run back cfoam and mine the small door on the left. turrets down and mow down everything coming through there
loud granite
So if there are none it's safe to open fire?
yes, but its always risky to leave a living scout behind u
if u trigger a different scout u could have the wave spawn on top of the other
icy cave
Ofc don't forget to also kill the scouts.
ruby wasp
only if doors leading to it are open
That's not always true
loud granite
o
ruby wasp
If you're far enough (above 30m), the scouts around won't trigger
loud granite
oh that yeah, i thought u were gonna say the slits in the doors can wake them up or something
ruby wasp
Ah yes
finite plinth
just shoot the scouts
modest vault
What is the difference between the choke mod shotgun and the other one?
floral acorn
choke is a tighter pellet group, longer range
it's scary good medium-distance against ~every enemy
noble sierra
choke is a mid range precision weapon.
modest vault
Tyyyy~
vital sierra
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bronze raven
Can someone explain what changed in R6 which prevents backhead one taps anymore
neon gust
hammer base damage got reduce
bronze raven
The killing a sleeper at back of head without charging
bronze raven
Oh, whats the minimum charge now
warped vigil
35
latent obsidian
Do you know if the damage ramp with charge time is linear?
minor fractal
Oh, whats the minimum charge now
0 for shooters, 30 for strikers.
minor fractal
Do you know if the damage ramp with charge time is linear?
||x^3||
So, higher charges are worth a lot more than low charges.
latent obsidian
okay if its cubic then thats nutty
junior wraith
are spear and sledge as good as each other?
minor fractal
Sledge is just the best melee if you can use it effectively.
minor fractal
Has a stagger multi, has more potential damage, lets you melee kite, and can clear extremely fast if you position correctly and can abuse the stealth mechanics.
fleet vessel
it has worse range, making solo-giant-kills much more skill-heavy, but is otherwise just as good if not better than the spear
sprint-attacking is also really useful during waves or errors, which the spear just... can't.
dunno if b-hopping with it is still in the game, but the spear can't do that either due to not sprinting
wooden osprey
the hammer is a jack of all traits that can become a monster in a few seconds
warm yew
wise heath
is there a reason to run knife over any other weapong?
junior wraith
isnt knife just dog water
wise heath
idk,im asking if its worth it
wise heath
oh ok
covert apex
isnt knife just dog water
best melee of the bunch
covert apex
is there a reason to run knife over any other weapong?
Fast clearing and you don't lose stamina
floral acorn
it's a bit slow but very strong yes
distant ice
Ray's just a basic b
Go with bat
Does everything a hammer does with little more trouble, faster charging, and better bonk than that current excuse for a hammer skin
Also with proper back damage all melees faceroll giants except knife
wise heath
ok
tardy ingot
can anyone tell me how many D3 seeds there are approximately?
Because for some reason me and my team had the exact same item/locker spawns (and even enemy spawns after reactor start) in our second D3PE run yesterday.
The first we died due to some misshaps at the end, but then we checkpointed. Realized we didnt want to do it that way and quit the lobby. Everyone restarted the game and we made a new lobby. Suddenly we realize we have the exact same key, pack, lockmelter etc spots and even enemies spawn the same way in the reactor zones. (Same codes aswell, which we didnt abuse tho)
restive viper
and is the sniper sentry good?
Depends on the area and the level you are using it in
ruby wasp
can anyone tell me how many D3 seeds there are approximately?
Because for some ...
Checkpoints keep the exact same seed
However each level has several seeds
I don't even think you can count them
As they include enemy generation, enemy spot generation, resources generation in each locker/box, reactor codes (although there seems to be a single seed for a series of 5 codes in D3)
tardy ingot
i know that check points keep the same seed. But we did checkpoint then quit the level. Then the game and when we made a new lobby still had the exact same seed (outside of overload and respawn zones spawns)
tardy ingot
yeah id guess. People just told me it was just due to the lack of D3 seeds
which i couldnt believe as in all my others tries i never had something like that happen. Like id get having packs in the same postion or a key. But not everything and same codes
ruby wasp
Yeah it's definitely a glitch if that occured after restarting the level through lobby
vital sierra
or someone being sussy baka
but that would just 100% the host doing if that happen
thin pine
who's the sussy baka imposter
vivid lantern
heyo lads, i´m new to the game
what do yall think of the hel revolver? i´d love to get some opinions of it from people whove played the game longer than i
floral acorn
nice weapon. penetrates the first target, damages / kills the one behind it also. magazine size not so big, but a good choice.
ruby wasp
Fast to reload as well with reload cancel
ruby wasp
Tools ?
modest vault
We have burst, cfoam, mines, bio
ruby wasp
wdym "we're currently doing it" ?
I didn't ask whether you're currently doing it or not lol
modest vault
mb- tilted rn from all this repeats
ruby wasp
Anyway you can place the burst sentry such that it aims at both doors (the apex one & the small one from the previous room), leave some cfoam trails in front of it, place mines near stairs, then use some cfoam on the last stair (at ~90% of the scan) to block enemies coming at you
If you're overwhelmed, stop the scan & clear everything
then move on again
modest vault
Ty, appreciate it
finite plinth
you can cfoam mine the door to blow up one wave
ruby wasp
yee
junior wraith
the big door up the top is where they all seem to come throug hso just set up the stuff there
my squad just chucked 2 sentries in front of the top door and we had it easy
feral anvil
There is a side room with a closable door that they spawn in for c1 to the right of the warden door
We just spam everything to defend the door and we don't see an enemy until like 60% or something on the scan
lapis mauve
You can foam or sentry the back stair case if the sleepers catch you at 90% scan, many people get caught on those stairs
rigid sinew
it has worse range, making solo-giant-kills much more skill-heavy, but is otherw...
it's way better than the spear
spear is just new player bait imo
Someone has to make a melee weapon tier list
distant ice
there's 4 melees what tier list
and all the opinions are fucked by back damage breaking
and even then few people would actually take each melee out for some hours before talking shit
from my own experience no melee is a handicap for a full team
viscid wolf
4 knife vs giant moment
distant ice
ez
viscid wolf
all melees are great
tropic ferry
Knife op
viscid wolf
spear might be on the weaker side since the nerf but honestly it's still viable
distant ice
wait for fix
viscid wolf
I just use sledge out of habit but unless I see three other knife users I'm not complaining
distant ice
you can actually almost solo knife giants without pulling any acrobatics
but you run out of limbs to break, since there's a limit on how many you can break on one dude
covert apex
Someone has to make a melee weapon tier list
knife s
sledge + bat A
spear caca
there u go
viscid wolf
it's more like knife sledge bat A spear caca
tropic ferry
2 knife sledge bat best change my mind
hazy wedge
is there a specific spot to hit the charger’s back? sometimes i kill it, sometimes it needs another bonk
covert apex
bugged
hazy wedge
oh
primal hollow
I’m a new player (only 11 hours of game time) and I need a good weapon for newbies, I feel like they’re all pea shooters and uncomfortable
warped vigil
it really depends on how you want to play
every weapon has it's uses
best advice i can give is just try out combinations and at some point you'll find a combination that you like
primal hollow
Yeah good point. Right now I’m comfortable with the Hel gun and burst AR
warm ravine
if you have experience in fps before, DMR is nice to use
im fairly new too and its comfortable
primal hollow
It’s a headshot only gun though
warped vigil
sort of
it's more of a precision one
personally i like something with a bit higher of a fire rate
one weapon is a spray and the other is precision
warm ravine
what about AR
primal hollow
Yeah because a dmr ain’t shit against a horde of the things
warped vigil
what about AR
eh it's decent
warped vigil
Yeah because a dmr ain’t shit against a horde of the things
exactly, a jack of all trades style loadout
primal hollow
Like I use the sniper and hel gun a lot paired with an automatic
warm ravine
i assumed the ar would be the most newbie friendly gun
kinda the default type for every fps
warped vigil
it is
warped vigil
personally i rock the carbine and heavy ar
tropic ferry
pistol, hel rev, carbine, dmr all reccommended
warm ravine
my friends and I are stuck on B2 right now
tropic ferry
which part
warm ravine
the checkpoint before the 2 stage 4 alarms
and then we got fucked by the scout
just managing health is annoying with the poison gas
primal hollow
my friends and I are stuck on B2 right now
B2 is like sticking needles in your eye, then squeezing a lemon into that same eye
warped vigil
uh not to discourage you, it's one of the easier ones
warm ravine
yea, im pretty sure we can clear it after a few more attempts
warped vigil
i really don't remember b2
tropic ferry
imagine fog
warped vigil
i think i did extreme once and that's it
warped vigil
||c2 style?||
tropic ferry
kind of
warped vigil
more ||R2B4|| and ||R5B2||
oof
warm ravine
we havent really figured out how to deal with them yet
tbh just thinking of running a sniper to tap it
tropic ferry
scouts cant wake up to movement, but it will make then tentacle faster
warped vigil
they send out tentacles when you shine light on them or move
tropic ferry
theres time between touching the tentacles and them waking up
jaunty totem
scouts are pretty deaf to most things, however they will put on tentacles if they think if something is going on
warped vigil
if you touch the tentacles, you have around 1.5 seconds before it's completely alerted
tropic ferry
the easiest way is to sprint near them to trigger the tentacles, then go for the kill
warm ravine
do they die to one charged melee?
jaunty totem
they do get alerted by very loud stuff like gunshots for example
warm ravine
yea
autumn musk
And when it's fully alerted (glows blue) you cant stop it from screaming at that point
warped vigil
the bat also can do it consistently
warm ravine
so is it a legit strat to just sprint melee when close enough
tropic ferry
i thought bat was back of head, the more you know
warped vigil
at least to the occupit
warped vigil
i thought bat was back of head, the more you know
i don't remember
i think it can just do it on the head
warped vigil
so is it a legit strat to just sprint melee when close enough
that's exactly how you do it
tropic ferry
it goes invincible quickly
steel valley
it pretty much has to die in a single shot
warm ravine
ah is that interval that short
tropic ferry
if you shoot very fast you can get a couple shots off
warm ravine
we assumed with 4 people firing it would go down before becoming invincible
jaunty totem
thats why sniper is really worth it since it can kill it from afar with a headshot
warped vigil
only the sniper and all current shotguns can kill it
steel valley
?
tropic ferry
revolver and hel gun to back of head
warped vigil
thats why sniper is really worth it since it can kill it from afar with a headsh...
well you could always go sawed off and do it
warped vigil
revolver and hel gun to back of head
oh yeah that as well
tropic ferry
not really
topaz anvil
If you miss them yes
jaunty totem
well you could always go sawed off and do it
true, but sniper is always really safe
tropic ferry
hit all bullets
warped vigil
just hit a lot of the pellets
steel valley
should just go for head for consistency
warped vigil
true, but sniper is always really safe
well at some point safety is plan b
steel valley
also shotgun/choke/sawed off need either back or head multi to kill iirc
can't body with those
steel valley
scattergun?
tropic ferry
scatter gun exists
warped vigil
unless you booster the sniper
steel valley
lol
warped vigil
oh yeah the railgun
steel valley
nah
warped vigil
it's pretty much a railgun that shatters the projectile
steel valley
shotgun has 30 dmg vs 42? scout hp
warped vigil
does the same damage
steel valley
:)
warped vigil
tbh sawed off is the most fun way to kill them
viscid wolf
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rigid sinew
Is it me or the exclusive fullscreen mode only applies if you have aero's fullscreen optimizations off
kindred shadow
how are you guys dealing with B2 the poison gas is just dumb,like i only had 1 pack to cure it through the whole map
kindred shadow
it hard to deal with that having 3 bots
kindred shadow
i feel that but like i got the bulkhead and i was in the last part they threw it anywhere but the part that i wanted
viscid wolf
it do be like that
fluid echo
Honestly bots are useless past b1 really
icy nacelle
Besides using the bots for them: you can restock on Fog Repellers by going back to Zone 61 (the first Blood Door room, you can jump to avoid stacking infection while going back or just use the side rooms), or even just finding some in Zone 63 (the Bulkhead Hub).
I've found both 61/63 Tend to have a bunch of them.
fluid echo
it hard to deal with that having 3 bots
If you want a better time I’d recommend using the lfg to find real people. Sadly bots aren’t reliable
gleaming cradle
bots are wierd but fun
kindred shadow
true
its just kind of nervous playing with other player, thinking of playing with other people
kindred shadow
I'll try
smoky mist
Also b2 was like the most annoying level this whole rundown imo or c2 maybe it was nah I think b2
fluid echo
My team just finished c2 secondary and that was tough
kindred shadow
its just the gas,that shit wreaks you hardcore
fluid echo
C3 is tough too but it’s mostly just learning the map, my team hasn’t done all the objectives on it yet tho
fluid echo
Yea if I would’ve known the side objectives were relatively easy on c3 I would’ve done them the first time
smoky mist
Your there for 30 mins anyways lol
fluid echo
True true
Do you pe every mission the first time doing it? Or just main first then come back
smoky mist
I usually just go for pe
Unless I’m with random team helping and they just wanna do main
smoky mist
With cp now it doesn’t really matter tbh lol
fluid echo
C2 was so draining for my team the first time around that we didn’t wanna risk going to the side objective lol
tacit zealot
Think how bad C2 would be trying to first time your way through 3 scouts during an error , not knowing the layout
kindred shadow
I've been not opening any chest till I really need it because the bots take everything
minor fractal
Think how bad C2 would be trying to first time your way through 3 scouts during ...
C2 Extreme wouldn't have been very hard if it weren't for the fact that we had all of the wrong weapons.
fluid echo
Exactly!
smoky mist
Had 0 foam they topped off 50 percent mines lol
tacit zealot
C2 Extreme wouldn't have been very hard if it weren't for the fact that we had a...
Oops! All revolvers
tacit zealot
Ouch
smoky mist
Damn har…
tacit zealot
All of that = pre nerf scattergun
kindred shadow
what guns do yall use?
smoky mist
Pistol and sniper or bullpup and Helgun
fluid echo
Dmr is a worse hel revolver, change my mind
tacit zealot
DMR does not pierce I guess
smoky mist
The new pistol audio sounds like a shotgun lol
kindred shadow
I've been using saw off shot gun and heavy machinegun
fluid echo
Saw off is trash
kindred shadow
really?
minor fractal
I like automatic weapons, everything but machine pistol, and I'm also a big fan of burst rifle.
Scattergun, shotgun, HAR, and machinegun are my goto specials. First two for dealing with bigs, latter two for wave clear.
fluid echo
In my opinion