gtfo-related-questions

[wise umbra]

Interesting

Anyway may try to use shotguns next time for that part. Thanks

[covert apex]

What

Not true brodda

Sniper kills regardless

[wise umbra]

So any part of the body will kill?

[covert apex]

Head

[wise umbra]

Ah ok then

[covert apex]

There’s a few exceptions but too lazy to explain

Just aim for head

[shrewd dirge]

so are you saying sniper kills to the back occasionally or not

or all the time

[covert apex]

Back of the head?

[shrewd dirge]

no, the back.

[covert apex]

It’s inconsistent to kill a scout to the back with a sniper to begin with

[shrewd dirge]

it used to not be. which is what im saying.

[gentle coyote]

Heyo, i got a question: Is this game worth to get when you start out without firends buying it?

[shrewd dirge]

yes, as long as you dont use in game mm, and opt for using the discord.

[covert apex]

You only need 5% back multikil

[gentle coyote]

because im highly intrigued but dont have any friends interested. Is the community welcoming to beginners?

[covert apex]

Yes

Very

[shrewd dirge]

hard to be shat on when most your party and other new players are beginners

[wise umbra]

Yeah dont use mm

Use discord

[gentle coyote]

how hard is the learning curve? Since i got a dayjob and such my time is kinda limited

[shrewd dirge]

got family?

[covert apex]

Pretty steep

If you only go over the basics you’ll be fine

Stealth, terminals and combat

[gentle coyote]

you really want me to get the game, huh

[shrewd dirge]

the curve is sharp at first, but the curve is the shallowest its been for a while.
but most of the missions are around 1-2 hours of time commitment when you get down into it.

[gentle coyote]

single mission up to two hours

[covert apex]

You want me to sugar coat it?

[gentle coyote]

that seems long 😄

[shrewd dirge]

the easy stages, maybe like 30 minutes to an hour

[covert apex]

Two hours if you do the side objectives

Which I don’t recommend for newer players

Finish all of the main objectives first and then try the side objectives later

[gentle coyote]

is HDD fine or should i find space on my SSD?

[shrewd dirge]

although, there have been horrid stories of parties taking upwards of 4 hours on things though.

[covert apex]

free some room on your SSD

[gentle coyote]

so important?

[shrewd dirge]

hmm, earlier rundowns i'd probably say SSD, but if you were really really in a tight spot, you could manage with HDD

but yeah, ssd.

[covert apex]

Yes

[shrewd dirge]

i've had load times into the 5 minutes sometimes with people using HDD, as the game waits for EVERYONE to load.

besides the game size on disk is pretty small.

[gentle coyote]

so i found enough space

[wide oracle]

this game def looks like something id roll with, i love a challenge. my concern is, i only buy games that will be active for a long term, i came from new world which is dying rather quickly and i need a replacement since its dwindling away due to severe lack of challengeing content for me, opinions on this games difficulty aspect, and how long yall think it will last?

[austere fractal]

this game gets a full new mission set every few months. it has bursts of activity in that way

all old missions are permanently retired and cannot be played again

[wide oracle]

im good with new content, i just need a challenge once i understand the game, im not looking for a cakewalk, idc about rewards like gear, just want to get into some carnage and maybe have my ass handed to me and learn how to overcome.

[topaz anvil]

Could it be, someone who plays a game for the sake of playing the game and not for dumbass achievements?

[austere fractal]

your question was about activity

[topaz anvil]

No his question was about difficulty

[austere fractal]

i'm saying that when new content comes out, which is scheduled regularly, the game has a lot of activity, and i don't expect that to change unless they straight up kill the game

hm, fair enough

kind of a hybrid q

[wide oracle]

i like that

i assume its hard, i have seen some youtube vids on ppl getting their butts kicked and i love that

[austere fractal]

about difficulty: since every new rundown is brand new to everyone, no one knows jack shit about the rundown, so everyone's going in blind

[wide oracle]

thats good.

[topaz anvil]

The difficulty progression is pretty linear between tiers, and general difficulty increases are common between rundown

[wide oracle]

its been a long time since i played a good game that the devs actually want to wreck you, and not hand the game to you

my only down side is i have a core group of friends that play new world but im not sure theyd be into this kind of game, but i am lol.

[topaz anvil]

The main problem people have with this game is that it's not stealth based enough. Its very strategy based tho

[rigid sinew]

I use an HDD and it works just fine

[covert apex]

If only you knew the devs

[wide oracle]

well if it was stealth based wheres the challenge? i like that it can be unpredictable. maybe a jump scare thrown in, actual challenges to plan around and defeat, and get harder each time. thats what i like

pardon?

[austere fractal]

the devs play their own game and enjoy wrecking themselves

[wide oracle]

thats sick

[austere fractal]

similar to how the dark souls guy said 'this is the game i would like to play' and then everyone went 'uhhhh'

'yes i am a masochist'

'oh'

[wide oracle]

lol

[covert apex]

They made this rundown easy

[wide oracle]

how so

[austere fractal]

people say there's too much ammo

[topaz anvil]

The overall difficulty was reduced

[wide oracle]

i dont own the game yet, im thinking about it though

[covert apex]

People kept complaining

[wide oracle]

why did they reduce the diff?

wth?

[austere fractal]

im pretty sure d missions are fucking hard still though?

[wide oracle]

isnt the basis of this game to be almost too hard?

[topaz anvil]

There was a difficulty creep from r3->r5 and it dropped back down to r3 levels lol

[wide oracle]

thats what got me interested

[austere fractal]

the rundown is scaled from tier a missions to tier d missions

[covert apex]

Not anymore

[covert apex]

Not really

[topaz anvil]

Don't mind Kaneki, he's French

[wide oracle]

LOL

[covert apex]

I will kill myself

[austere fractal]

kaneki rly on here like 'don't buy this game'

[topaz anvil]

No

[austere fractal]

'its too ez'

[covert apex]

Im not

[wide oracle]

I have only seen a few levels done on youtube, they didnt look tough, just ppl who arent exp, but ive heard that theres alot harder mobs further in?

[fierce oracle]

Eh

[topaz anvil]

If you compare this rundowns D4 to last rundowns D1..

[fierce oracle]

They didn’t really but those mobs in this rundown lol

[topaz anvil]

I mean they did

[wide oracle]

what makes this 'rundown' easy?

[austere fractal]

anyway, the most likely thing is @wide oracle , because this is the first rundown of 1.0, they made it less sadistic to draw in the new players and then it'll keep getting harder as time goes on

just like 3 to 5 was

[covert apex]

R4 to R5 was rough for a majority of the community which sparked a lot of discussion about the difficulty of the game

[austere fractal]

because they clearly can make rough shit

[topaz anvil]

The devs did something right by not oversaturating every level with the more special enemies

[fierce oracle]

Too much ammo/tool, significantly shorter levels, less enemy threats, buffs to every single gun, alarm set up is far easier

[wide oracle]

hmm

[topaz anvil]

Shouldve stayed at r5 levels imo

[covert apex]

R5 would’ve been perfect hence the packed room bug was introduced

And E1 was actually good

[topaz anvil]

Lol

E1 best level change my mind

[wide oracle]

so they reduced the diff due to player complaints, is the game worth buying for someone that wants a beast of a challenge?

[covert apex]

You literally pick the levels the community hates the most and act like you enjoy it

[covert apex]

Ehhhhhh

[shrewd dirge]

make no mistake, games still hard and will probably get harder.

[covert apex]

For your first hundred hours, yes

[topaz anvil]

I stand by my choice that r5b2 was the best level of the rundown

[fierce oracle]

Game is 90% knowledge

[shrewd dirge]

harder than dark souls at least.

[covert apex]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[shrewd dirge]

which isnt saying much

[topaz anvil]

You can't compare ds and gtfo

[covert apex]

GTFO harder than dark souls??

[fierce oracle]

If you open up a textbook and takes notes you can learn the whole game in under 10 hours

[wide oracle]

well lets see, i put just shy of 800 hours into new world, ( tanking and healing endgame ) does this game have that potential?

[austere fractal]

what are you, a journalist?

[fierce oracle]

No actual skill

[topaz anvil]

Kiting moment

[covert apex]

There’s people with over 3K hours

[wide oracle]

holy

[covert apex]

On GTFO

[wide oracle]

shit

[shrewd dirge]

gtfo is the dark souls of shooters

[topaz anvil]

Im only at 800 like a rookie

[covert apex]

A majority of it comes from speedrunning, solo’ing levels and testing

[topaz anvil]

Cant believe i have the audacity to speak in this server with such low numbers

[covert apex]

I have 89 hours!!!

[shrewd dirge]

i wonder if ill hit 1k before i wrap up the rundown

[fierce oracle]

It’s okay nuggies only has 2.5 hours :)

[shrewd dirge]

;^)

[covert apex]

But if you’re looking for a “BEAST OF A CHALLENGE” then consider keeping your options open for other games

[austere fractal]

gtfo is the squid game of shooters, clearly

[topaz anvil]

Nuggies has no less than infinite hours in the game

[austere fractal]

it's just a giant game of red light green light 🙂

[wide oracle]

as we speak my friend just gifted me the game on steam. so it looks like im playing

[covert apex]

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh

[topaz anvil]

You have friends?

[covert apex]

Refund refund refund

Jk

[topaz anvil]

Now thats the real achievement

[wide oracle]

lack there of tbh

[fierce oracle]

Learn to use terminal, learn to fast stealth

Gl

[covert apex]

Don’t use general for your questions

[topaz anvil]

Whatever friends you had, you'll lose them trying to communicate here

[wide oracle]

I got the terminal down, and i havent even touched the game yet

[covert apex]

I love you

I literally do

[wide oracle]

lol

[covert apex]

You’ll do great

[wide oracle]

haha

i hope i like this game, been dyin for a good once since wow.

[topaz anvil]

History, dont tell Kaneki i told you this, but ||make sure you know to read the text that appears on your screen||

[covert apex]

Have fun on c2 extreme

And C3 PE

[wide oracle]

uh

why is it blacked out haha

[topaz anvil]

Click on it

Dew it

[wide oracle]

aight..ima trust you

[rigid sinew]

knowledge,
cheese-ish and optimized strats weren't as available (or normal to be seen) as before
Also, other things related to guns being a bit more powerful, etc.
but imo it's still hard enough to give you a challenge
the difficulty on this game really comes from knowledge

[wide oracle]

LMAO

sounds fair

[rigid sinew]

do expect stuff to get harder in next rundowns/content updates

the game also came out of early access

[wide oracle]

is the difficulty randomized? or do you pick where you start?

[covert apex]

Also anything can be killed if you aim for the head

[topaz anvil]

People really be like "aight guys we remember all the reactor codes and there was a checkpoint just before the reactor, so lets" restart from there and redo the reactor

[wide oracle]

from what i understand its the back of the head for 100% dmg including bonus?

[rigid sinew]

linearly progressive
You start in level one, then two, etc.

[covert apex]

It’s bugged right now

[wide oracle]

alright

[covert apex]

Should still make it a habit to aim for the head whenever you can

[topaz anvil]

Back bug, like a bed bug but more annoying

[wide oracle]

lol

installing now

[covert apex]

Except for chonky boy

Don’t shoot chonky boy in the head

[topaz anvil]

Shoot chonky boi in the head trust

Hes lying to you

[covert apex]

Don’t

[rigid sinew]

kite

[wide oracle]

im praying there isnt a meta.

[covert apex]

There isn’t

BUT

[wide oracle]

thank god.

[rigid sinew]

no

[covert apex]

Carbine / Hel gun

[topaz anvil]

There is a meta, its called making your teammates do all the work and you going afk 😤

[wide oracle]

thats not meta, thats carry 😛

[gentle coyote]

well first start up and the game already fucks with me. Why the hell does it draw the language from your OS and not the one set in steam and why cant i fix that under game properties in steam

[covert apex]

This is why you don’t listen to the yellow names on this server

[wide oracle]

hahaha

[covert apex]

Skill issue

[topaz anvil]

This is what i unironically do and its day 728 and they still havent found me out

[wide oracle]

hoyl shit i didnt realize how small this game is

less then 11 gigs wtf lol

[covert apex]

Let me catch you doing that in my lobby

[topaz anvil]

What are you gonna do, kick me?

[covert apex]

There’s an in game option for that

[shrewd dirge]

tfw no 400gb of gtfo floor textures

[gentle coyote]

so how the tuck do i put the game into english without having to go through whatever intro sequence in my damn native tounge.

[fervent sail]

when you start a lobby and people join, are those bots or actual people? I want to check out the lobby stuff without people waiting for me to start

[rigid sinew]

make sure it's in the spitters, Kaneki

[topaz anvil]

Settings -> accesibility

[covert apex]

Bots

[rigid sinew]

if there is a bot it will have a [BOT] tag

not sure if that applies to the lobby menu though

[covert apex]

Report you to mod contact

[rigid sinew]

mods bad

smh my head

[topaz anvil]

@gentle coyote

[topaz anvil]

Mod on my team

[rigid sinew]

mod the mods

[covert apex]

modS on mine

[topaz anvil]

Shid

Also okayu cringe

[rigid sinew]

nu

ogayu good

[covert apex]

One more ogayu cringe and i’m offing myself

[wide oracle]

lol

[covert apex]

Watame cringe

[gentle coyote]

so now im in the menu for the first time, what do you want me to start with?

[topaz anvil]

Trueeee

[topaz anvil]

?

[covert apex]

Youtube tutorials my friend

[topaz anvil]

A1

Obviously

[covert apex]

Turn your VSYNCH off

[topaz anvil]

Nno keep it on

[covert apex]

FOV bring that shit up to 75

[topaz anvil]

Heresy

[covert apex]

Don’t play on default fov

[covert apex]

I will literally beat your ass

[wide oracle]

whoa lolk

[topaz anvil]

[covert apex]

Matsuri based

[wide oracle]

aww

[topaz anvil]

Based on what

[covert apex]

your mom

[topaz anvil]

O shid

[rigid sinew]

at min set your max queue frames at 2
it will make your fps considerably stable

idk just play A1 with bots or join some newbies in #lfg-beginners

[topaz anvil]

MM

[wide oracle]

aight gonna check this shit out bb in a few

[topaz anvil]

[covert apex]

“guys how do i find the key ”

Smh my head

[rigid sinew]

“guys how do i find my dad"

[covert apex]

dead

[topaz anvil]

"guys you gotta stand in the circles"

[rigid sinew]

"guys you gotta buy the scout dakimakura, I know it sounds weird but believe me it's necessary to complete this mission"

[topaz anvil]

"guys what is that scout doing in a jar"

[rigid sinew]

[remote lily]

so can anyone shine light on how the enemies choose which door to breach?

do they care about sentires?

or mines?

[noble sierra]

If all doors proceed to next zone is closed, seems sleepers simply choose the nearest door to breach, sentries/mines/foamed not relevant.

[remote lily]

okay also

is there a way to ping doors to a specific zone?

[rigid sinew]

no

[noble sierra]

You can query doors, it will display navigation information.

But you can only brute force search the specific door.

[craggy pier]

What's the heat displayed on missions mean?

[minor fractal]

The value of artifacts towards booster progress.

[hoary wedge]

How do I know ow when my weapon stops doing full dmg due to distance?

[rose mulch]

I'm wondering, since the game exists since a bit more than 2 years now, why is the HUD still looking like the way it is now?

The trailer back from 2017 teased a way more cleaned HUD so why?

[weary mesa]

I like current hud, it does get a bit more cluttered during this rundown

Trailer HUD is too cluttered

[rose mulch]

I respect your opinion although there's less graphical aspects on the actual one and more text

[neon gust]

they most likely took it out because it look similar to other games

gotta set yourself apart ya know

[weary mesa]

Imagine old HUD character portraits changing with cosmetics

Lemon head would permanently be on my screen

[neon gust]

you talking like thats a bad thing

[distant ice]

They said the old one took up too much space I'm pretty sure

[neon gust]

lemonless man

[weary mesa]

I have it, I just have a better mask

[hasty terrace]

We were duoing C2 extreme and kept getting waves of about 6 hybrids instead of 3-4 at the error alarm. Anyone know hows this glitch can be avoided please?

[floral acorn]

did checkpoint retry? that's a bug .. the waves are double the normal

[hasty terrace]

Yep we used the checkpoint! Does that bug only happen if we use it?

[shrewd dirge]

its managable but not great

but if someone has weak internet speed, its pretty bad.

[floral acorn]

afaik only after cp this has occured but not every time, dunno why it triggers

we had it when we accidentally pre-scanned main to 100% after retry, suicided and retried again

[austere geyser]

Hi everyone I noticed that sometimes the enemies (especially fast moving ones) have some janky movement, so I'm having actual trouble getting clean hits unless they are staggered, does this game use dedicated servers or P2P connection for lobbies?

[floral acorn]

p2p

there's a 3rd party data thing going on but the actualy lobby and game session data is all p2p

[austere geyser]

Ah, that sure does explain a few things. I understand why they went with P2P solution for a game like this though.

[floral acorn]

if anyone has a bad internet connection, it could screw it up for all w/ desync and other symptoms

[austere geyser]

Yeah I find that my performance during shooting gallery sections do a complete 180 depending on who hosts the server

[floral acorn]

and sometimes playing across country borders, an isp starts blocking udp as there's a ddos happening and p2p udp goes down the same drain etc etc

[austere geyser]

Its not a gamebreaking issue or anything of that degree, just annoying especially if a few of those enemies end up slipping past the formation

[lapis mauve]

p2p and dedicated hosting are not independent of each other. there is no technical reason why you cannot have both.

[austere geyser]

I'll try to host games myself next time and see how my friends feel with it. Thanks a lot for clarifications. Also if there are any general tips against fast movers beyond just staggering or stunning them, I'd gladly take it. I assume there might be some interpolation going on regarding their actual hitboxes but there is no sandbox enviroment for me to do some proper testing.

[floral acorn]

biotracker-tagging helps u get a bead on them asap, and generally they do run at you, alltho some do their strafe-dodge-dance first .. going behind a corner or any narrow chokepoint helps, if they line up and u have a hel-weapon, every shot gives multiple enemies damage..

[austere geyser]

Oh I've been enjoying hel revolver+HAR as my go to loadout

Probably not metaworthy

[loud granite]

no meta

[austere geyser]

I just roll with what works and what has at least decent ammo economy

[loud granite]

if ur comfortable with ur guns, you'll be plenty efficient

[floral acorn]

i'm far from the best shot ever but i enjoy dmr + har/shotgun/sniper, depending

[austere geyser]

shotguns I feel like are really strong but I just can't seem to make them work

I'm a lot more comfortable one tapping heads with HAR rather than getting in shotgun range where enemies hurt me back

I havent tried the sniper yet but my friends that did have been really struggling so I'm hesitant ^^

[loud granite]

shotgun is more of a "burst gun" in the sense that you pull it out to quickly delete 8 sleepers

[loud granite]

sniper is terrible against swarms, and its only 3 shots per megazine and 12 ammo max
but it can oneshot anything to the head, its overkill on lower levels but c1 and below its always best to have atleast one

[austere geyser]

Yeah it has that really fast reload aswell

[austere geyser]

Yeah I noticed, it seems to be good for dealing with bigger enemies

Part of the issue is because ammo packs work for both guns, the snipers often end up focusing too heavily on their other weapon and having too little ammo for it while their sniper rifle sits at like %70+ most of the time

[floral acorn]

and for dmr, the biotracker triangle moves in a way a small shooter moves, line up the triangle well in advance, watch that nubbly head pop up and boom, splat, yellow star, done. satisfaction.

[loud granite]

a rule to keep in mind, always use ur special twice as your main
they fill up twice as fast

bad move to have ur sniper 88% and ur smg or pistol at 20%

[austere geyser]

I do love using specials

they are pure joy

[austere geyser]

Thats generally how our sniper ends up ^^

[loud granite]

this rule still applies to it, when ur using sniper try to shoot ur main as little as possible and relying on ur teammates mostly

sniper is a responsibility

[austere geyser]

What about the special revolver btw?

[loud granite]

u get alot of ammo for it

[austere geyser]

I used it for A1 and it was pretty handy

[loud granite]

and it can onetap small ones to the head

otherwise two shots

its extremely efficient against small enemies

....just a bit useless against big ones

[austere geyser]

It felt a lot more consistent than hel revolver to me, but never really brought it to harder missions yet

Probably because I shoot the hel revolver from ranges where I use the HAR

[floral acorn]

all i can say is watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ANL0wVPz20 at 56:54 .. revolver when someone knows how to use it.

[loud granite]

hel revolver deals alot less damage in comparison, which is understandable cus its a main
but even by main standards it hits hard
also benefits from being a hel gun which means it can pierce

[mossy shale]

Will the hel gun shoot through the mother and hit the pustules on its back?

Or do I have to run behind it still

[austere geyser]

Thats impressive tracking

[loud granite]

u still have to, it wont pierce tumors even

[floral acorn]

their duo videos are out of this world, inhuman

[loud granite]

nice

[mossy shale]

What?? What’s the point of the penetration then??

[finite stirrup]

piercing things that arent tumors

[loud granite]

hitting multiple enemies with one shot

[mossy shale]

But not tumors 😦

[loud granite]

[mossy shale]

Oh well :p

[distant ice]

You can hit multiple tumors if you hit multiple mothers

[austere geyser]

I might be having harder time tracking because of FPS drops aswell

My game often stays above 60+ but it doesnt feel very good to me

Especially during the teleport sections where you go to a different dimension or whatever

Those areas really tank my FPS

Probably my old 1070 not keeping up

[loud granite]

dw everyone's struggling

[floral acorn]

sometimes the enemies are also a bit janky, even at 100+fps they do "stutter" when they move

me and my bro, what we lack in aiming, we make up for in positioning, retreating etc

[austere geyser]

Yeah I'm legitimately more terrified of small swarms than big guys or scouts because of their movement behaviors

retreating is big brain move

[finite stirrup]

baby hordes

[austere geyser]

I havent quite mastered it I just realized holding A or D while sprinting kills momentum

I was wondering how everyone runs so fast

[floral acorn]

yup strafe is walk time, there is no penalty of running forward and moving your mouse fast, even 180

[austere geyser]

It just feels weird since I'm not very used to it. Coming from PvP shooters its almost a need for me to use A and D keys during movement

[floral acorn]

yup it's something your spine will have to learn not to do here, alltho holding a/d and then tapping shift is still supposedly a "dodge", alltho not as noticeable than before

[loud granite]

it used to be a dodge, now its a "lemme move an extra inch"

[rigid sinew]

try increasing your max queue frames until a point where your fps get stable

do keep in mind the higher the more latency

[austere geyser]

I'll give it a try but more latency sounds counter intuitive, so I'll not raise it too much I guess?

I don't think my CPU will give much trouble, upgraded to a decent one not too long ago.

was supposed to upgrade GPU aswell but you know about the market...

[lapis mauve]

a 1070 will have zero issue running this game, set a max frame limit so its not jumping from 60-500 or some ridiculous number

[austere geyser]

Actually I'm struggling to keep it above 60

Certain sections are 90+ frames

others are at 45-ish

Its just generally dependant of scene it seems

[stoic breach]

Yes.

[thin pine]

I would guess one of the sections with low frames would be red alpha

[coral field]

any1 have good insight on what are the best weapons? my 2 favorite loadouts so far are DMR with heavy AR and normal assault rifle with buckland s870 shotgun

i mainly run solo with a bot

[pulsar herald]

There is no "best weapons". Some weapons are better in different Situation. I personally use a lot Hel Rev and Sniper.

[latent obsidian]

For the most part they are situational and down to personal preference, that being said I'll almost always default to the heavy assault rifle unless something else specific is needed. Its very good at clearing small enemies but is a little weaker at dealing with bosses and giants quickly

[feral anvil]

@hollow spindle honestly gathering a group of 4 isn't a 100% necessity, and bots do indeed exist for you to play with. But for the full experience with intended difficulty that would pretty much need 4 people for the utility and firepower

[hollow spindle]

ok imma buy it hehe

[feral anvil]

👍 😄

[fallow night]

Does the scattergun still oneshot big ones?

[pulsar herald]

Yes

[fallow night]

k

[pulsar herald]

Big Charger and Charger scouts still too

[fallow night]

D1 loadout recommendation?

[stoic breach]

1 sniper on someone, and guns that you don't suck with.

[pulsar herald]

We take 3 Burst 1 Bio. Because c foam is not that helpful i.m.o. but 2 sentrys + c foam and mine also work easy.

I mean you should at least take 1 sniper with you.

[fallow night]

Well, the oft loadout is sentry and mine for the bots, my friend takes the foamer, and I always take bio.
But my question was entirely gun related.

[finite plinth]

3 burst

[fallow night]

Not understand.

[finite plinth]

3 burst sentries

[stoic breach]

That's really it

If you cannot pass the class 6 with 3 burst sentries, then you're not shooting enough or accurately enough

[fallow night]

ogey

[grave acorn]

.t syringe

[uneven gulch]

What each syringe does: The red one gives you health, but also infection, the yellow/green one buffs your melee for short time, also gives you infection.

[grave acorn]

Oh shit, wrong place.

[mellow mauve]

friends

are apparel drops random

[feral anvil]

Certain drops are random and certain ones are 100% guaranteed such as the D1 orange color pallette

[mellow mauve]

dang

I wanted the hood

[wooden osprey]

you mean hacketts face?

[ruby wasp]

Good luck for this one 😳

I got da lemon mask tho

[feral anvil]

😳 I got the lemon mask and the hood

[ruby wasp]

That + pink palette = absolute state of sex

Not surprising to see all the sleepers focus on me

Anybody would steal that sexy mask

[wise thicket]

I have both lemon head and Hacketts mask

[fallow night]

Lemon head?

What is this lemon head of which you speak

[thin pine]

helmet that looks like a lemon

[fallow night]

post imigiz

[thin pine]

i don't have it

[fallow night]

Fug

[fluid echo]

Is the scattergun’s role only killing big enemies? Is it worth taking all the time?

[steel valley]

not really worth all the time but it's extremely good versus a specific enemy type

any level with it you should take a scattergun

[fluid echo]

Mother and tank?

[steel valley]

just mother

tank is better with sniper

[fluid echo]

I feel though when I take a sniper or scattergun I’m useless for my team against waves

[steel valley]

ye thats the trade off

scattergun less so but you lose wave clear utlity

[fluid echo]

Ah ok that’s the point, what’s a good primary to run with scatter/sniper

[steel valley]

i would say pistol, hel revo or carbine

[wise thicket]

carbine yes

[steel valley]

something that kills fast is good

[wise thicket]

best gun

[steel valley]

you don't want a support primary if you're on a giant weapon

[fluid echo]

Ok thanks, I’m addicted to finding great load outs. I’m always trying new ones

[steel valley]

hel revo + sniper + bio + hammer is my favorite this rundown

but try and see what you like best

[ruby wasp]

HEL Rev + Shotgun is pretty nice as well

It was one of the most used loadouts for solo runs in R4 (when HEL wasn't nerfed)

Still good there though

[fluid echo]

The hel revolver is definitely tied with the dmr for my favorite weapon. I feel like they have the same role

[steel valley]

dmr feels more supporty to me

[small valve]

QQ: is there any way to combine stacks of items like toolkits + fog dissipaters

[steel valley]

with the prohibitively long zoom

[ruby wasp]

Nah we're playing prisoners

Therefore our IQ is below 20

Therefore we don't know how to count & combine stuff

[small valve]

I see. It's very frustrating to carry around a 20% defogger and have to toss it then backtrack to find a 60%, etc

[ruby wasp]

It would make the game way too easy

[small valve]

lawl

[ruby wasp]

you'd just stack resources till you get 5 of each

[small valve]

thats the dream

[ruby wasp]

Repeat that with any resource you find

There would be no need to look for resources whenever you're out of ammo/tool/med

[small valve]

the items are consumable so you always need to loot for them

seems like a quality of life thing rather than a game mechanic tradeoff

[steel valley]

consumable stacking would be nice

resource stacking might be a bit of a balance issue

[small valve]

i specifically find it frustrating around the defoggers because the squad ends up consuming the other items on the spot, usually

vs throwing some defoggers and then backtracking to try and find other slightly taller stacks of defoggers

[ruby wasp]

Thing is that QoL would completely destroy the difficulty the game offers as you can preplan even more than before

To compensate that, the devs will have to buff the enemies, the alarms and the rooms

[small valve]

because you can carry 5 defoggers now instead of 2-3?

[ruby wasp]

Not that

because a team can carry 2 ammopack 5 & 2 med 5 instead of 2 ammopack 3 & 2 med 3

You would notice the difference after a while

It's even more noticeable on reactors

Sometimes the resources are shit (2 uses) so you have to go back & forth to resupply yourself

whereas a 5 use resource can allow you to keep defending for a much longer without worrying about resupply

[small valve]

sure, but stacking lock melters and defoggers dont seem like they would upset that particular example too much

[ruby wasp]

For fog repellers that can help for long alarms in fog

R4D2 had a class 6 alarm completely under fog if you were to do the secondary objective

Believe me that a single fog 5 would be enough

lol

Anyway i'm mostly chit-chatting about it

But it'll definitely lessen the difficulty of the game

[small valve]

yeah, coming from other FPSs it just seems silly that you cant stack them, especially when you have other QoL improvements like reloading a half full clip puts the unused ammunition back into inventory

[ruby wasp]

Yup

Allowing people to place resources in lockers/boxes would be amazing as well

[small valve]

yeah, I guess playing this back to back with B4B makes the style of play kinda weird, since you do a ton of prep work muling stuff around for a horde/siege in B4B

[fluid echo]

Are there any settings y’all have changed and recommend? Should I turn the hit indicator opacity all the way up?

[ruby wasp]

might want to ask in #gtfo-technical-support depending on your computer

[fluid echo]

Ok thx

[wooden galleon]

I’m a newer player and just wondering if there’s a best order to to attempt the rundowns? For example, after completing R6B1, should I attempt B2 or C1 first? Or is it just personal preference?

[ruby wasp]

Personal preference but the first level of each tier is easier than the other levels of the same tier

so C1 is easier than C2 & C3

D1 is easier than D2, D3 & D4

etc

[wooden galleon]

Gotcha! That makes sense. Thank you

[shrewd dirge]

Muling shit imo is annoying as fuck.
Lets just assume you could place stuff down. I can verify that it stretches out the mission unnecessarily and honestly does not improve survivability or fun factor of gtfo.

What i would like to see out of the devs, is a way to trade items/packs

[hazy wedge]

how do you effectively kill a tank without getting close to it

[shrewd dirge]

The only way to fight a tank is to flank it, but remain near cover to dodge the tongues

And then move behind cover before the tongue hits you

Tank tongue is basically the only one that cant land with broken LOS

[hazy wedge]

[shrewd dirge]

If by you mean, fight with only bots. Probably frustratingly annoying.

[hazy wedge]

i've been doing the rundown with only 1 other person

[stoic breach]

I feel you, LFGs get me down bad as well.

[hazy wedge]

it's not that, i'm scared to play with strangers :P

[shrewd dirge]

Strangers on the internet are scary

You can occasionally get really weird ones.

[pseudo geode]

Just got this game, think I'm doing something wrong. Playing solo with 3x bots, can't get pat second checkpoint, I foam all the doors, pass all the scans, but when we run into the next room, all my teamates get one shottted and I get torn by like 15 baddies.....any guidance appreciated. ty

second checkpoint of A1

[thin pine]

don't open doors until all enemies from the alarm are killed

[rigid sinew]

at first it is weird, but at some point you really stop caring

good thing voice chats aren't like a CoD lobby

lol

[pseudo geode]

@thin pine can't survive the wave from unlocking door though...

[desert falcon]

are you putting mines on the foamed doors as well?, if you're only foaming they will just stack up, the mines will take them all out

[pseudo geode]

@desert falcon only have 1 mine

[desert falcon]

did you use the rest already?

[thin pine]

there's enough tool refills

[pseudo geode]

@desert falcon um haven't found more and I've scoured lvl multi times

@thin pine those work on refilling mines?

[thin pine]

yes

[desert falcon]

the mine deployer tool starts with 6? or smth mines

[thin pine]

mine deployers, cfoam, turrets, etc are all tools

[pseudo geode]

@thin pine I'll have to see about that

[ruby wasp]

just to say, that is an alarm, not a checkpoint

[pseudo geode]

@desert falcon I've been going in with the basic load out do I need to switch to a mind tool or something

@ruby wasp copy

[desert falcon]

for a1 I would maybe bring 1 foam, 1 mine deployer, and either 1 biotracker and 1 sentry or 2 sentries and no biotracker

foam without a mine deployer to back it up is pretty useless most of the time

[pseudo geode]

@desert falcon Yeah I've only been playing for like 2 hours and I've beating my face on it it makes sense that I should look into messing around with the load outs

[desert falcon]

yeah foam and mines will carry you through most alarms ^^

[pseudo geode]

@desert falcon Wait that means I have to completely restart the run I'm on though correct

[desert falcon]

yup, can only change the tools before dropping

[pseudo geode]

Copy thanks for the info

[shrewd dirge]

mines are generally essential unless you have a reason to NOT take them.

[desert falcon]

I mean in multiplayer you can bring other tools if different ppl join but yeah ^^

not relevant for normal play

[thin pine]

4 sniper sentries or no balls

[shrewd dirge]

4 burst sentry

[finite stirrup]

4 mine

[thin pine]

4 biotrackers is the ultimate move

[finite stirrup]

but that works pretty well on some maps

[thin pine]

wait it does?

[finite stirrup]

||d3||

i genuinely dont know what youd do with 4 people laying mines other than make a deathtrap for your team and the enemy

[thin pine]

how do i even properly use the biotracker? whenever i try to ping a horde of enemies it pings like 2

[finite stirrup]

look at them

hold lmb

Dont aim

[ruby wasp]

but muh sentry

😔

[thin pine]

so like i gotta look at all the enemies while i hold it?

[ruby wasp]

Don't aim with it

[finite stirrup]

whatever you want to ping, yes

[ruby wasp]

that's all

[shrewd dirge]

general direction, dont ADS with it

[ruby wasp]

aim at the center of the group and ping

[finite stirrup]

ive had some odd behavior if i swing my view around very quickly i can scan around me as well

[thin pine]

i thought it would like ping all the enemies currently displayed on the biotracker's screen

[ruby wasp]

don't focus on the first one you see

Nah

[finite stirrup]

it extends quite a bit beyond that range

[ruby wasp]

Floaters are completely glitched regarding that actually

Like they just appear & disappear from bio for no reason

[finite stirrup]

thats them leaving reality

[ruby wasp]

Even if you ping them there's like half of them unpinged

[finite stirrup]

you seen em just, phase through the walls and never come back?

[viscid wolf]

bio moment

[viscid wolf]

they get stuck in the ground a lot too :3

[finite stirrup]

yeah

my favorite is they break down a door

Then phase through the adjacent wall

chokepoints are for a lesser species apparently

[thin pine]

so do i have to look at the enemies directly or does only the horizontal position of aiming matter if you know what i mean

[ruby wasp]

Both

It acts like a cone

[finite stirrup]

you have to look at them directly, but its rather generous

[viscid wolf]

the cone is pretty wide

[ruby wasp]

You can ping them even if they're not displayed on the biotracker

as long as you hear a beep sound it's pingable

[distant ice]

Have you tried not zooming in when pinging

Or not

[viscid wolf]

I'm dreading the day they make it relevant

the ads ping I mean

similar to how they made the fog repellers relevant

[thin pine]

i tried both but that was when i didn't know how it works exactly

[viscid wolf]

[shrewd dirge]

it seems to create more issues than not, hopefully they make it worth something.

[finite stirrup]

let me ping sleeping ||Shadows||

[viscid wolf]

when we getting different color pings for different enemies

[finite stirrup]

thatd be way too convenient

[viscid wolf]

probably

[finite stirrup]

youre stuck looking at the height of the dorito

[shrewd dirge]

just give me UV glowsticks

[viscid wolf]

rgb razer glowsticks

[shrewd dirge]

just fucking DO IT

[finite stirrup]

customizable glowsticks

[viscid wolf]

customization weapon scopes when

I want my dmr 12x

[shrewd dirge]

i'd like a zoom toggle tbh.

[finite stirrup]

putting shitty flashlights and sights on weapons is part of the rundown balancing

please understand

high beam flashlight for all weapons never ever

[shrewd dirge]

i will tape a LRF to my forehead and there is nothing they can do to stop me

[craggy pier]

has the tank that spawns in c3 been removed?

[midnight gazelle]

Doubt it

[craggy pier]

as in due to the high alarm

[rigid sinew]

4 biotracker equates to big dick energy

[grim edge]

Is there any point in redoing missions? I compelted Q1 4 times but havent gotten new cosmetics

A1

[ruby wasp]

boosters and practice

You can't farm cosmetics

[grim edge]

ok thanks

[hushed sundial]

A multipart question: 1) do resistances of the same type from different boosters stack? 2) If they do: additively or multiplicatively? 3) If additively: is there a hard cap on resistance or can I be literally immune to infection?

[grim edge]

so you only get cosmetics for the first completion of each mission

[craggy pier]

have they fixed the c3 pe bug

[rigid sinew]

.t vanity rewards

[uneven gulch]

You get one reward for completing each of the challenges in the 'Prisoner Apparel Requisition' list shown below. Rewards are selected from various pools. Additional reward chances will be available with future content drops (e.g., New Rundown releases)

https://imgur.com/a/eond8uF

[lilac fulcrum]

which one is that

[grim edge]

how do i load into the secondary and overload sectors? do i have to comeplte the entire rundown first

i seem to only be able to redo the main sectors

[craggy pier]

where you dont get pe if you use checkpoints in c3

dev are you going to reply?

[lilac fulcrum]

user will you give me a minute to try and find a report and see what's up. it's 11:30 pm and i don't have every bug memorized.

[craggy pier]

ok

[lilac fulcrum]

the one where putting in cell then using checkpoint doesn't let secondary get completed?

[craggy pier]

it might be idk my team is telling me what it is

[icy nacelle]

Just curious, how much melee damage could I lose while still being able to kill a Scout with my Spear?

[hazy wedge]

what exactly is prisoner efficiency

[lilac fulcrum]

.t sectors

[uneven gulch]

Sectors are a mechanic which adds optional objectives to the game, ranging from altering the game state to adding other objectives. The following sectors are available:
Primary
Secondary
Overload (Third Sector)
Prisoner efficiency (All three Sectors in the same run)

Multiple sectors can be completed at the same time, however you always need to do the Primary/Main sector.

[ruby wasp]

for hammer i recall you can still OS until you reach -25/-30%

[hazy wedge]

thanks

[ruby wasp]

since spear has a x1.3 precision multiplier, i think you can go even lower

Btw @lilac fulcrum i couldn't watch the FAQ stream back then but did y'all explain why high & extreme have been changed to main & secondary please ?

[lilac fulcrum]

I believe we renamed it to have it make more sense, as a newer player might not know that high is the main path, extreme is an optional secondary, etc. but don't quote me on that.

[ruby wasp]

well i'm not surprised for the high rename but i am for the extreme one tbh

[mossy aurora]

but why keep overload? make it main, secondary, and tertiary or something

main, secondary, and overload makes no sense

[ruby wasp]

i wanna hear momma repeat WARNING : THREAT LEVEL EXTREME every 5s

[shrewd dirge]

have them all just play over each other constantly

[fallow night]

.t sectors

[fallow night]

It's fun

[mossy aurora]

im talking about the nomenclature

[fallow night]

Tertiary doesn't have the same impact that overload does

[mossy aurora]

and secondary doesnt have the same impact that extreme does

[fallow night]

I suppose

[ruby wasp]

no more momma 😔

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_bMUgi69no

[rigid sinew]

in the leveles that have those objectives
they can be accessed when using a key in a bulkhead control panel

[dire juniper]

Is it possible to vote kick people?

Someone afked in my game

[stoic breach]

No, but you would assume the closed function by the host would do that, but it doesn't.

[mossy aurora]

someone said you can kick people by making that player's spot to bots only

then opening it up again

[craggy pier]

Is there any sleeper the scattergun doesn't blast when shooting pinpoint in the back?

[viscid wolf]

Not that I know of

well I guess if you count the [REDACTED] [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] as sleepers there are 3

the scattergun does 128 and the standard enemies with the most hp are hybrids and big shooters at 150 so it should do more than enough

[craggy pier]

Yeye, thats what i wanted to know, if i could yeet a chilling hybrid with one shot, we are gucci

[wide oracle]

question: is your inventory limited? or can you carry numerous items like mutliple hp/ammo kits?

[floral acorn]

one slot for carryon (tool medi ammo disinfect), the ammokit can be 1 use (20%) or even 6 use (120%) but that ammopack will fill the slot

anything u pick up replaces what u already carry etc

[wide oracle]

ahh gotcha, thank you - im fairly new to the game but the more i know now the better ill be later on.

[craggy pier]

I still think its weird you cant combine kits (to my knowledge)

If you find a 20% and a 40% i see no reason you cant combine it into a 60%

[wide oracle]

yeah that is odd, but the game isnt meant to be fair thats for sure lol

[median cipher]

I see everyone bringing a sledgehammer and I feel kind of scuffed with my dummy bat. Can the gamers of this realm tell me why the sledge is superior? Also, does anyone have advice on guns?

I've been loving the pistol and the sniper rifle, but I'm looking to experiment.

[wide oracle]

sledgehammer has the highest damage, just slow charge time

my question is, if you use 2 AR's do they share ammo or seperate mags?

im gettign rdy to play here soon and its so hard to be prepared, but that makes it fun too lol

[mossy aurora]

All weapons have separate ammo

[wide oracle]

i also feel like, with the guns anyway..it seems if you grab a gun with a high mag capacity, it strikesme that the gun would need more ammo to kill a target, so ive been running with AR's and/or burst to effectively kill mobs assuming the persons aim is on point

good stuff

[mossy aurora]

Sledge is decent at everything, bat is faster at clearing, and is good at staggering, harder to kill scouts with bat but still doable

[wide oracle]

i see.

makes sense

yeah cause i think the bat swings horixonally? and the hammer is tomahawk swing

[mossy aurora]

It depends on what you're killing. Weapons like scattergun or sniper have more ammo efficiency against Giants than like machine gun, but machine has better ammo efficiency against small guys

[wide oracle]

yeah

i did find the scatter gun to just annihilate smaller mobs in groups

but its low ammo cap gets old quick, very situational

[candid ore]

what is a good loadout to run?

[rigid sinew]

yes

[candid ore]

thank u

[rigid sinew]

But seriously, there is not a real meta of weapons

[topaz anvil]

People really be like "wat is good weapon" not realising the good weapons are the ones you are good at

[rigid sinew]

maybe the hel revolver, dmr or pistol for main
and the scattergun, sniper, hel gun or revolver for special

but in the end the best one is the one you can shoot

[topaz anvil]

So basically any weapon

[rigid sinew]

...you know what forget about it
bullpup + choke mod :dogetroll:

[candid ore]

Ok

[mossy aurora]

do you want to be primarily wave clear or for big guys

[topaz anvil]

Doesn't matter, all are good at both

[mossy aurora]

yeah but if you want to be the designated giant killer in the group and are running machine gun, its not optimal

[candid ore]

big guys

[mossy aurora]

sniper or scatter gun if you want to kill giants efficiently

[topaz anvil]

I use machine gun on giants all the time, you wanna fight

[mossy aurora]

it works, but there are faster more ammo efficient ways

[candid ore]

the sniper was one tapping them but the primary i was using was bad

[topaz anvil]

You don't need to aim with machinegun

[mossy aurora]

primaries are really flexible, all do similar things, some ones that stand out is dmr 1 shots shooters with head shots, hel revolver pierces if you are good at lining things up. pistol 1 shot staggers and is really ammo efficient

if you cant aim, assault rifle and bullpup are popular, bullpup has a slow reload though

[topaz anvil]

Honestly, even pump shotty is better for giants

Than sniper imo

[mossy aurora]

it 4 shots giants right?

[topaz anvil]

3

Sometimes its not about killing the giants

[candid ore]

ill probably use a sniper / revolver loadout then

also is there still a rundown timer?

[topaz anvil]

There is

[mossy aurora]

if you're playing with mates and a giant shows up, tell them not to shoot the head because if they break the head you can't 1 shot them anymore with your sniper

[topaz anvil]

When the next rundown is ready

[candid ore]

ok

thanks

[rigid sinew]

sni*er

[topaz anvil]

Or just shoot it first ez

[mossy aurora]

[topaz anvil]

Just dont encounter that skill issue

[fluid echo]

What strategy did y’all use for c2 secondary? The actual secondary part is fine but once we kill the mother it all goes to hell with constant scouts and enemies in the next rooms

[topaz anvil]

Uh, kill the scouts and pull the rooms

[stoic breach]

lemme do it for you then.

cough

skill issue

[fierce oracle]

Have a sniper rifle and let the person with it carry a 4 use ammo when you go into the mom room. Sniper can solo hold the hybrid waves and everyone else can clear the rooms ahead

[tawdry leaf]

had 2 hold the door while sniper/mines and bio went forward to clear the scouts and set pull rooms/doors

[mossy aurora]

Having a sniper push and clear the scouts helps speed things up too

Nvm moskold said it

[fluid echo]

ok sounds like I need to run a sniper on my loadout for sure the. What would be a good main weapon to complement a sniper?

[mossy aurora]

Whatever you are comfortable with, pistol, hel revolver, ar, dmr

Just make sure you balance your ammo

[stoic breach]

DMR-Sniper kinda makes you an ammo fiend

[austere fractal]

i've been using pistol/sniper but i'm considering attempting to learn revolver/sniper since i struggle with hoards

and piercing sounds nice

[dreamy pecan]

so this black square on the corner of my screen started expanding and now my entire screen is black, only the hud is visible atm

what do?

[weary mesa]

wait

Funny liquid bug

[dreamy pecan]

yeah

pretty much the same thing

[coral field]

im in D1 with a couple of guys we finished the 4 wave and boss but having trouble restarting the reactor any 1 have any ideas?

we gotta type something in the console?

[loud granite]

no, you're done with the reactor

head back to the very big room with fog downstairs, the door on the west side is now unlocked

[coral field]

yep gotchu thank you man ❤️

[woeful kiln]

Isn't that door unlocked from the start?

[loud granite]

nope, its locked till you start up the reactor

[wooden osprey]

^^

[woeful kiln]

So I can just start the reactor and immediately run towards the door?

[loud granite]

...even if that works, if u wanna do the mission with endless waves of reactors be my guest

[woeful kiln]

It's just the first wave it's fine

[wooden osprey]

i mean true and not true

[mossy aurora]

pull the giant rooms, start reactor, max out spawns with giants, kite them to the reactor, run back and do the warden door lol

[loud granite]

....or u can just skip all that mess and do the warden door?

warden door is not locked yknow

[wooden osprey]

hotbox

[loud granite]

hotbox

[wooden osprey]

but i think its locked

[mossy aurora]

its not

[wooden osprey]

because of reactor no?

damn

[finite plinth]

Hotbox enjoyer

[loud granite]

if it is then hotbox runs wouldnt be a thing

[wooden osprey]

i really need to do a hotbox one day

[finite plinth]

did it with some guy who never did d1 before and had only 1 hr

[wooden osprey]

but i also love the layout of the level ):

[finite plinth]

so i asked him, wanna just speedrun

[wooden osprey]

oh yes speedrun

[finite plinth]

ez bot carries

[woeful kiln]

I'm monkey I got confused with warden door and west door

[loud granite]

[wooden osprey]

fun fact its called Apex door not warden door

[loud granite]

warden door is cooler

also easier

[wooden osprey]

i remember doc roasting me in R4 for thinking it was warden door lol

[woeful kiln]

THANK YOU I HAD FORGOTTEN THE NAME AND COULDN'T FIND IT

[finite plinth]

if only the game gives me infection resis

i will literally solo reactor skip

[woeful kiln]

I love you Jones. I'll carry you for all the r5 levels you haven't done

[wooden osprey]

hmmmmmmmmm send me the game files than we talk

[candid cloak]

do the boosters that increase your ammo/tool capacity also increase how much you would recover from refills?

[woeful kiln]

Perfect I have them

[loud granite]

no they just give u more ammo at the start

[woeful kiln]

Nope

[wooden osprey]

no its always the same

[candid cloak]

ty

[wooden osprey]

unless you have supply eff

or med eff

[woeful kiln]

It's just a bit more ammo at spawn

[wooden osprey]

for a booster

[finite plinth]

yo these people actually talking previous rundowns on main

[wooden osprey]

do not question the elevated ones

[warm sand]

I'm looking for Bot loadout suggestions and haven't been able to find much on google or reddit, anyone mind helping?

[wooden osprey]

ok so here somethings you should know about bots

they are aimbots

and do not melee and have trouble with cfoam

so i suggest giving them sentries

and guns that have high damage

cause there aimbot is too op

[neon gust]

check #guides-and-reviews 😉

[warm sand]

oh, I hadn't checked that, sorry and thx

[warm sand]

ty

[neon gust]

Are you 2 players 2 bots?

[warm sand]

trying out solo with 3 bots

[neon gust]

May the lord go with you

[warm sand]

yeah... lmao

[neon gust]

bots are behave "better" when theres 2 players

one bot on each and usually everybody keeps their distance

but with 3 bots they like little ducklings

always under your wing

[warm sand]

noticed that pretty early

[austere fractal]

which can be in a pain in the ass for scattered scans...

[lapis mauve]

the bots do split up for cluster scans but they leave they seem to return to the player location after touching a scan zone. its maybe a conflict of commands.

[neon gust]

theres is

they have to be on two things at the same time
-around the player
-in range of scan

so if you go like aroun 8- 10 meters they just go for you

instead of sticking to scanning

can mess you up really badly if your first time with them and try to go to defend the chokepoint while theyre doing scan

[dark fern]

after completing B1 where should I go? B2 or C1, which is easier?

[noble sierra]

I'll say B2 is easier.

[restive viper]

Wait whats a Warden protocol again?

The very long scans?

[desert falcon]

The "survive x minutes" objective

[restive viper]

So C3 basically

[desert falcon]

jup

[restive viper]

Ty

C3 is stressful af

[desert falcon]

indeed

[restive juniper]

hi guys how do yall clear B2

me and my friends are dying while running to the extraction

[thin pine]

where exactly at the extraction

the blood door?

[topaz anvil]

Uh, dont die is my advice

[warm yew]

Just mine the blood door

You have enough resources (I hope) to skip finding res in 2nd to last zone and just rush the blood door

[restive juniper]

once we enter the blood door we get swarmed so we keep dying there

[topaz anvil]

Are you not killing the blood door

[restive juniper]

we are but cause like front and back spawns

[topaz anvil]

Theres a decent time between waves

[restive viper]

Throw 2 fog repellers down there, set 2 sentries facing the door

One activates the door

One faces back all the time

Three face the door

[warm yew]

One person can hold waves if they're good enough at shooting, or 2, if you guys are taking that error slowly you'll quickly lose a lot of resources trying to kill error waves

[restive viper]

Even if you have only one turret equipped

It can save your ass

[restive juniper]

ah okay ill try that thanks

[restive viper]

It's very important to stay together at all times

[warm yew]

Thing is, one mine will literally take care all of the blood door spawns

[restive viper]

During fights

[warm yew]

So you can drop the sentry to help the one watching the back

[restive juniper]

after 4 hours we completed it

thanksss

[junior wraith]

Any tips for D1

[fallow night]

Don't do it

:)

[shrewd dirge]

A cfoam launcher is pretty good

Otherwise, 3 sentrys

[fleet vessel]

scouts.
I know you can kill a scout before the touched tentacle recedes.
Can you kill a scout whilst it is charging up it's scout wave blast, but before it actually shoots that? Or do they just straight up get hard immunity for that period of time

[thin pine]

they are completely immune to damage when preparing to scream

[stoic breach]

If no cyan: can take dmg. If cyan'd: invulnerable.

[fleet vessel]

yikes

thanks for that confirmation

... how do you kill ||charger scouts in melee if a single person's hit isn't enough|| then

[noble sierra]

Synced team kill.

[stoic breach]

CFOAM with 3/4 blobs then double hit the back, or just double hit the back with fully charged melees

[fleet vessel]

ah

alright

[stoic breach]

It is a strong recommendation to not dual hit with the host.

[fleet vessel]

do charger scouts have as much HP as a normal charger

bc if yes then a well-placed full-charged spear could take em out, but I dunno if they have more HP

[noble sierra]

Charger scouts have more HP

[fleet vessel]

also the exact position to hit with a spear on normal chargers is beyond me still so I'm not 100% accurate there either

ah

y i k e s

so basically, sneak by or foam em

[stoic breach]

Yes.

[fleet vessel]

don't have a team that could do synced kills that well

and typically I'm host so nop

[stoic breach]

It's pretty tough

[fleet vessel]

I understand now why ||giant chargers, class III charger alarm, 6 charger scouts|| is a counterchoice to ||at least 2 mothers from what I can see, albeit after each other||
I thought the charger scouts are much easier but apparently not, thanks for that info

[stoic breach]

IMO, the easiest route, if you have a decent cfoamer, is the ||west side spawn room with mother, error alarm, and dark mothers room||

[steel valley]

i think there's like 7ish uses of tool in that zone

so you could literally full charge foam each scout if you really wanted and still come up positive

[fleet vessel]

||dark mothers room? error alarm?||

[fleet vessel]

that is hilarious

I'm gonna try that with my team next time

[stoic breach]

I'm assuming we're talking about D2

[steel valley]

it takes like 6ish? to foam if you want to be precise

[fleet vessel]

yes

[stoic breach]

4, if no bugs

[fleet vessel]

I don't know how to measure blobs so I'll probs overcharge but yeah

[steel valley]

ohk tyy

[minor fractal]

How is the infection route?

[thin pine]

wait, would placing a mine in a scout's path actually be a valid strat

[steel valley]

just look at the ammo count

1 ammo = 1 blob

[minor fractal]

I feel like if you do secondary it shouldn't be very hard.

[fleet vessel]

infection route?

[steel valley]

the charger zone

[minor fractal]

D2 path, right of spawn.

[fleet vessel]

ah

since it has the turbine it's doable really

giant chargers are weird to melee

[stoic breach]

It's fine imo, just that it's annoying because you gotta deal with the ||6 charger scouts||

[midnight gazelle]

Or you could skip it until after clearing infection in secondary

[stoic breach]

and it taunts you with all the SUPPLIES

[fleet vessel]

secondary is later

[midnight gazelle]

Then you dont need turbine

[minor fractal]

That sounds easy, ngl.

[fleet vessel]

flare, secondary is after the door that needs the cell that's at the ||charger scouts||

[stoic breach]

It is, but i'm incredibly lazy.

[minor fractal]

A lot easier than the dark path.

[steel valley]

i would go mother zone --> error ---> secondary ---> infection ---> extract

imo easiest route

[midnight gazelle]

There are two cells on the map.

[fleet vessel]

w h a t i s t h i s d a r k p a t h y o u k e e p t a l k i n g a b o u t

[stoic breach]

Well there would be no infection if you did secondary

[fleet vessel]

you only need one, don't you?

[steel valley]

exactly

so do secondary first

[midnight gazelle]

Yeah but you dont need to do the charger scout room to get the cell

[fleet vessel]

or do you need the terminals from both anyways

[stoic breach]

True. Maybe I'm just far too lazy 😩

[steel valley]

you need 3 zones worth of terminals

[fleet vessel]

mothers are honestly more difficult to us

[stoic breach]

I ain't going back

[midnight gazelle]

It is. What im saying is to skip charger scout and alarm until after turning off fog

Which you can do

[fleet vessel]

but how

[stoic breach]

Mit explained.

[midnight gazelle]

There is a cell elsewhere

[fleet vessel]

I am aware

[midnight gazelle]

Two cells on map

[fleet vessel]

I've been asking if you need the mother zone's terminals

[midnight gazelle]

Nah

You dont

[steel valley]

you need one of the mother zones terminals

either dark or aggro

[fleet vessel]

if not, then why would you go into the infection zone if you did mother zone??

[midnight gazelle]

Which mother zone are we talking about

[fleet vessel]

D2

[midnight gazelle]

Because there is like 3

[stoic breach]

Because if you do Rayalot's or Mit's route, then you wouldn't haver infection.

[minor fractal]

||Path beyond the checkpoint. First zone contains three charger scouts, two birthers, and a number of normals in two rooms. Branching zone connecting to the first room contains two birthers, two charger scouts, and a number of normals in two rooms. Branching zone connecting to the second room contains a charger scout, at least two birthers, and a number of chargers in one room. Both zones require a silent set of 4-scans to complete.||

[midnight gazelle]

I mean which zone in d2

[fleet vessel]

excuse me

[steel valley]

there are 4 key terminal zones, you need to interact with 3 out of 4 unless you do some weird half-assed strat

[fleet vessel]

okaaaay

[stoic breach]

like Kenny's speedrun route 😩

AH GOD

[noble sierra]

4 sectors in total, you need 3 out of 4 to have 9. So it's common for players do both alerted mother zone & infectious zone.

[midnight gazelle]

^^

[steel valley]

speedrun routes are always cursed

[midnight gazelle]

Alerted mother zone is easy

Sleeping mother zone is hard

[fleet vessel]

ah, so you'd advise do the left/right paths at spawn rather than all the zones beyond the cell door

[steel valley]

yeah pretty much

[fleet vessel]

I see

[steel valley]

the dark mother zone is by far the messiest most of the time

[fleet vessel]

from what Rayalot explained y e s

[steel valley]

and the error is extremely easy + tons of res

[fleet vessel]

what error is it?

charger error or standard enemy error

[midnight gazelle]

Spawns chargers

[steel valley]

4 chargers per wave idk the interval

[fleet vessel]

4 chargers per wave

[steel valley]

fairly long gap between waves

[minor fractal]

You get 2 free terminals. Birther path has 2 terminals, infection path has 2(?) terminals, error path has 3 terminals, dark path has 3 terminals.

[midnight gazelle]

Plus you have to do like a class VI which spawns more chargers

[fleet vessel]

aaah that's why it's ""extremely easy""

[steel valley]

there's one alarm and one blood door then you turn it off

[fleet vessel]

yeah I see what you mean

avoid dark path and instead do the other 3 paths

[midnight gazelle]

Yup

[fleet vessel]

... that's really short isn't it

[steel valley]

exactly

[noble sierra]

That's probably the most popular route.

[fleet vessel]

sounds like I just need my team to figure out how to fight moms without absolutely getting crushed by babbies

🤡

[steel valley]

bait them around corners with a scattergun

[fleet vessel]

oooooh

[minor fractal]

You can also split paths by doing both 3 terminal paths and only getting 2 terminals on one of them.

[steel valley]

they can't spawn babies unless they see you

[fleet vessel]

ah yeah that we've been using

[steel valley]

so clear the babies in the room, and wait for a good oppurtunity