well i don't remember there name anymore that was for a hour
#gtfo-related-questions
red solar
shrewd dirge
no big deal really, but people in lfg are cheaters a lot less often
so if you use in game matchmaking, expect more cheaters.
red solar
it was the "Accrat Golok DA Bullpup Rifle" that i saw 
now looking in to GTFO wiki
shrewd dirge
bullpup isnt in the current rundown.
supple gust
Gimme back ma bullpup with a slightly quicker reload 
finite plinth
this
topaz anvil
Bullpup but the reload is longer kekw
shrewd dirge
bullpup but you need to reload twice for the full mag
topaz anvil
bullpup but reduced mag
shrewd dirge
10 round burst uncancellable burst cannon
craggy pier
Burst cannon but you have to stand still when you equip it
red solar
bullpup but its shoots thinking emoji's π€
viscid wolf
bullpup but it's unbullpuped
red solar
question: in one of the gameplay trailer its says that the maps ar procedural generated but i saw today that the maps are always the same? 
ruby wasp
Do you have the said gameplay trailer by any chance ?
red solar
well let me research
ruby wasp
They aren't procedurally generated but the devs make each levels by themselves for each rundown
lilac fulcrum
question: in one of the gameplay trailer its says that the maps ar procedural ge...
We use a system for generating the initial layout, but once we are happy with the layout we lock out so it's always the same for the rundown.
red solar
and how long goes a rundown?
keen solar
and how long goes a rundown?
3-6 months for now depends on the length of the rundown
the trailer says the map will be renewed WHEN the rundown is changed.
minor moss
Doing C3 rn with my squad and we can't find one of the last terminals
||We need a password terminal, in 378. But we can't find it at all, we've scanned every surface for the last 10 minutes||
||The map is also bugged, it doesnt get fully revealed its like half grey half black||
nvm just missed it cos the map is bugged
woeful kiln
go to the north door lol
minor moss
ya we were in there
we just couldnt find it
craggy pier
ya we were in there
we just couldnt find it
Hm? The giant blue door? or the terminal tucked away in the middle room?
woeful kiln
it's always a bit annoying to find
craggy pier
Yeah that terminal is really tucked away on the other side of the room close to the stairs.
minor moss
For one of them you need a password yes? which is hidden in the last room
the map was bugged for us so even tho we walked everywhere we didnt see it
and it was in some weird corner so we didnt see it right away, spent ages looking
we did find it and managed to clear it though
woeful kiln
cool
craggy pier
nice
topaz anvil
For one of them you need a password yes? which is hidden in the last room
the ma...
Btw the map isn't bugged. It just seems that when you reach the boundaries of where you can click and drag on the map that it fades out. Since C3 is a long vertical level (south to North) you reach as far north as the map allows you to see basically
topaz anvil
It is frustrating though
viscid wolf
sleep
tacit zealot
You can use arrow keys to move map if you have problem
Have to use arrow keys for D1 ext
viscid wolf
just memorize the layout 4head
nova swallow
does the gtfo matchmaking work
fading tangle
yes, matchmaking with friends or filling in empty slots isn't available though
pearl badger
Although if you play this game in matchmaking, dont expect to be in good matches
shrewd dirge
does the gtfo matchmaking work
poorly
keen solar
No one ever wants to use it π©
finite plinth
it's fun
white kettle
Is a biotracker neccesary for C1 extreme? 
ruby wasp
yes
floral acorn
Question: Is it possible that the innards of boxes and lockers are not 100% set at the beginning? .. I have a feeling that you need to hammer sleepers to be rewarded with c-foam grenades or tripmines.. We've duo'ed R5A3 for over a week now with my brother, and if we sneak past everybody to get to the Z41 alarm door (opening boxes and lockers as we go), we find zero of both. If we kill every sleeper in z38 and z40 while getting there, suddenly we found one of both.. .. thoughts?
.. same with R5A1 solo'ing .. clear all of z61 and z62 and suddenly the last boxes you open are filled with cf and tripm..
young pagoda
it's random
tacit zealot
100% need bio
tacit zealot
Consumables are randomised, some places do have set spawns for c foam grenades and tripmines eg C2 but for A3 the consumables would be completely random
floral acorn
thank you gais, appreciate it. yesterday we ran out of ammo, sentries and skill at the z44 door, a random cf-grenade and/or a tripmine from z43 would've helped π
woeful kiln
Can sawn-off shotgun stagger Charger scout on the back? and Be able to kill it with 2 shots?
subtle nimbus
i dont personally know, but d1 you come across a spot to test that super early on
distant ice
Need to do a bad alarm first so not very soloable
Fairly certain you can 2 shot the charger scout though
knotty mauve
Can sawn-off shotgun stagger Charger scout on the back? and Be able to kill it w...
yes
woeful kiln
ππΎ thanks
viscid wolf
Can sawn-off shotgun stagger Charger scout on the back? and Be able to kill it w...
no using the Mozambique >:(
distant ice
should probably mention that stagger doesn't scale with back damage
wait no it was limb destruction, or both
red solar
will be character customisation really a thing?
and when yes what exactly will be able to customise and will be this unlockables
red solar
i think more thonk
topaz anvil
I think custom sleeper skins kekw
lilac fulcrum
will be character customisation really a thing?
and when yes what exactly will b...
will be character customisation really a thing?
Yes!
viscid wolf
do you mean cosmetics or like weapon attachments and stuff
please tell me its the former
red solar
in the road map there is character and weapons customisation written
lilac fulcrum
^
viscid wolf
will there be like profile badges for completing the bug boy levels
craggy pier
I really want to be able to ikea my own DMR
topaz anvil
DMR but you have to find the components in the level
craggy pier
Turn down
distant ice
weapon-assembling minigame 
shrewd dirge
hacking minigame
if you fail you need to recollect the parts.
dapper nimbus
There's gear progression as well fyi π I really wonder how's that going to be implemented.
Like imagine, a bigger screen for the biotracker π©
Cause I'm too lazy to ads with it.
red solar
hacking minigame
if you fail you need to recollect the parts.
if you fail endless waves of enemy's will come
shrewd dirge
a door where everyone needs to hack at the same time to open it.
plain spire
gear progression: c-foam lvl 999 charges for a second and the screen turns white
dapper nimbus
Sentry progression: it grows legs and starts charging in enemies with a chainsaw
poggers?!
tropic ferry
melee sentry
indigo moat
what is the noise radius on the sniper rifle, how far from enemies must one be to not trigger them but shoot the gun to kill a specific enemy
spark wolf
range decreases when more rooms away
indigo moat
what considers rooms
craggy pier
Subzone area A
spark wolf
its like 10m when 2 rooms away
craggy pier
Subzone area B
indigo moat
like if ur on the oppisite side of an open door from a rrom does that count
spark wolf
yes
indigo moat
like if i was in A1 Zone_61 to Zone_62 security door and was on the Zone_61 side shooting into Zone_62 does that count as a room distance?
steel valley
that would be 1 room away yes
indigo moat
so the doors even when open act as a sound reducer?
spark wolf
a part of A would likely still be in range
steel valley
there are some open rooms that will count as two rooms, just look at the signs on the walls that say a/b/c/etc..
spark wolf
decreasing based on rooms is probably so you don't alert everything when shooting in some room that aggrod
steel valley
i didn't actually know that enemies 2 rooms away can hear gunshots within 10m
though i guess the odds of that actually happening are very low
spark wolf
yeh
idk if its exact
it was pretty much the first circle of bio tracker
when i tested on R4
shrewd dirge
worth stating that an enemy dying makes noise for proximity alerts.
spark wolf
but if it's 2 rooms away, whatever wakes up will scream in middle room
full team would have to be 2 away tho
indigo moat
do scouts have compleetly random pathing or is there a specific path they will take
cause i have seen them typically follow a same path with some deviation but is it semidetermined or is it completely random
shrewd dirge
predetermined but will get shifted by sliding if they give another scout a handshake.
can result in weird shit
but ahh, there is a caveat
their pathing will change on the first time you open a door to that zone room.
@indigo moat
lavish gorge
just out of curiosity how did you come to find that out
ruby wasp
do scouts have compleetly random pathing or is there a specific path they will t...
As long as there are sleepers in a room, they tend to go between them
woeful kiln
just out of curiosity how did you come to find that out
By observing in game you can found many thing
shrewd dirge
i think i figured it out around rundown three, we would open security doors with a scout on the other side, and say, we'll wait for it to come back, and it never came back for half an hour.
lavish gorge
By observing in game you can found many thing
"their pathing will change on the first time you open a door to that zone room.
" I never "observed" this. im just wondering is all
lavish gorge
i think i figured it out around rundown three, we would open security doors with...
oh ok
woeful kiln
well clay did.
shrewd dirge
i still notice it to this day.
woeful kiln
and i did too
steel valley
feels like that's because you probably clear enemies next to the entrance of a room, making the scout more likely to path away from the entrance
shrewd dirge
i even notice it in the c2 double scout mother room
woeful kiln
it's at this door that i could easily notice
shrewd dirge
absolutely not. ive observed it even in scout only rooms.
woeful kiln
they never feel behind closed doors
steel valley
ye
lavish gorge
I'll take some time to see this my self, I find scouts very intresting ai wise
steel valley
how pathing works iirc with an open door is that it picks a point, and walks to the designated point to deploy tentacles
that's why they can escape rooms sometimes
but i think the pathing difference that you notice is because they just don't have to pick a point when doors are still closed
so they free roam a bit more
shrewd dirge
ive got a theory that in scout rooms that only have regular doors closing all the doors with no one inside will get them to do the old path
i feel like ive noticed it, but its hard for me to test, as they just arent much of a burden anymore unless the room is crawling with sleepers.
obviously this isnt an option with rooms that have security doors.
to test reliably at least.
shadow scouts also seem to behave oddly when you shine light on them
its like they dont like light on them. regular scouts dont do it.
too many hours spent just staring at scouts.
steel valley
?
all scouts dislike light
they will tentacle more frequently under light
you can use it to trap them in place
shrewd dirge
thats not the observation.
shadow scouts actually will shift their posture
its quite odd.
minor fractal
That's a quirk of shadows.
If they are in a posture and you turn your light out, their posture doesn't change until you shine a light at them again.
The game literally stops rendering them.
lavish gorge
I forgot to clip it but there a graphical bug that made a giant look like a shadow giant for a sec, so shadows are just functional glitches
indigo moat
hey uh how to dodge the strikers seemingly homing tongue attack?
steel valley
it tracks very poorly to the sides
so run perpendicular to their attacks
running straight through them works decently as well, since they can't track you if you're behind them
indigo moat
hey whats the best way to do a double kill ive tried the kill one knock then start chargin but u get hit before the charge is ready so whats the best method
jolly zealot
You don't need to charge as much if you get a back/+head hit
shrewd dirge
full charge -> tap the other on back of head.
indigo moat
wait a tap to the back of the head can kill?
shrewd dirge
yes, zero charge.
shrewd dirge
if sleeper is "dogeza" stance when it spins around, you're still behind it until its animation completes.
jolly zealot
If you can't move to the back, half charge the head
shrewd dirge
there is no configuration in which you cant do a double with zero charge.
indigo moat
ive done that and on multiple occasions i get hit by it before the charge is reay
well i mean full charge the first how do i stop the second from hitting me and kiling it the most swiftly
jolly zealot
there is no configuration in which you cant do a double with zero charge.
In certain situations you don't want to move as much (e.g. other sleepers are pulsing)
shrewd dirge
killing active sleepers is free.
if there are more players than just you, its either a matter of two doubles back to back, or doing two doubles at the same time with a partner.
unless its prodigial enemy density its possible.
like 4+ sleepers in autoalert distance.
jolly zealot
well i mean full charge the first how do i stop the second from hitting me and k...
Rayalot (and others) have a bunch of videos demonstrating these sittuations, here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTq6RxpY-4o
indigo moat
so i just tried a back of the head hit no charge on a dogeza and it uh alerted everything and didnt die even though its head was missing
shrewd dirge
well i mean full charge the first how do i stop the second from hitting me and k...
know the stances and how they react to autoalert distances when meleeing sleepers.
know that the closest is generally the one that alerts.
you werent behind the sleeper.
occ damage only applys when you're physically behind him. in terms of dogeza, its his butt side you need to be on.
craggy pier
hey whats the best way to do a double kill ive tried the kill one knock then sta...
If you can't get behind one, full charge one, and half charge headshot the other
shrewd dirge
and if you mess that up, feel free to just keep tapping.
craggy pier
People often do a full charged hit then don't charge again
stiff otter
12
shrewd dirge
anyway, even with the standing friendos, their back direction does not even update, like the dogeza, until their animation is finished. So if an enemy does its twirl animation after waking up, you can still whack with zero charge.
provided you hit the head.
lavish gorge
I think double tap is better then dmr
more times with dmr you have to two shot sleepers, once in head and one body shot. and the double tap kills in two bullets if you head shot
so 12 rounds compared to 14, dmr might be worst, what do you think?
shrewd dirge
if im using dmr, i dont bother with the followup shot if im in an S.
lavish gorge
wiki says dmr is 95, tap is 111
shrewd dirge
legs, on giants.
yeah
yeah
often im the only dmr in the party, rest is AR or something else.
i often wonder about if DT is better than DMR on chargers, but from my playtesting in games, the DT just runs dry more often.
lavish gorge
I heard somewhere dmr headshots leave sleepers on like 1 hp, so any follow up attack kills
shrewd dirge
yeah, pretty much.
lavish gorge
but how often do teams plan out shots haha
shrewd dirge
i dont have to plan.
if they're close i whack with secondary, if they're far, i steal the head.
lavish gorge
fair enough
I think shot for shot dt does less damage so its probably bad for chargers
shrewd dirge
even DT on hybrids ive found it........ lacking.
better off with anything else with dt.
lavish gorge
ya, I like to play devils advocate
shrewd dirge
i get it.
indigo moat
What are yall's tips for being not bad at game?
craggy pier
Play with people who are 10x better than you, copy their movements, and ask questions.
keen solar
Watch YouTube guide
shrewd dirge
What are yall's tips for being not bad at game?
in addition to those, after watching the videos, immediately attempt to apply them alone for a little bit.
also using your ears effectively will tell you what types of enemies are in the room, where, and a rough estimate of how many ( or rather, the density); when you get good at it, at least.
woeful kiln
What are yall's tips for being not bad at game?
Experimentating.
shrewd dirge
aside from that, there are subtle audio cues when you enter a zone. An example is knowing if there is enemys in an adjacent room without bio or opening the door, and if that room has scout feet sounds.
my advice, after practice is; eyes and ears open all the time.
lavish gorge
Question for anyone, what the best (smg, heavy smg, or carbine)
minor fractal
Depends.
Carbine has the best kill pace and damage, SMG has a good kill pace and is automatic to let you pick shots better, and heavy SMG is incredibly efficient but has a tiny mag.
shrewd dirge
carbine? which gun is that again?
weary mesa
4 round burst primary
minor fractal
short range, basically burst SMG.
weary mesa
Carbine Cancel π
topaz anvil
No
weary mesa
double tap cancel π
minor fractal
DMR w/ extra steps.
weary mesa
Dmr just rifle with more damage
minor fractal
When are we getting the burst variant of the rifle, the triple-tap rifle?
W8
BR was a variant of the rifle instead of the AR this whole time.
weary mesa
damn
lavish gorge
BR?
minor fractal
Burst Rifle
lavish gorge
tell if Im wrong but the BR fells much weaker this rundown, I remember it on bursting sleepers before
minor fractal
It was never a one-burst.
Head destruction affected a lot of weapons, including automatic and burst weapons primarily.
lavish gorge
alright I do remember alot of earlier guns in a better light then they were
lavish gorge
like I use to say the mg was the best secondary
lavish gorge
My life is based of a lie
weary mesa
and old r2 MG head multi monkaS
minor fractal
That too.
Any automatic weapon or weapons that needed to do their burst or shell to the head were indirectly nerfed come R4.
Burst weapons, automatic weapons, shotguns...
lavish gorge
do you have link or what I should search to find out about this?
minor fractal
Not sure what you're looking for?
lavish gorge
like just "gtfo head bug?"
minor fractal
R4 fixed head destruction so that you could no longer shoot the invisible head hitbox that was being left behind.
lavish gorge
ohhh
shrewd dirge
this information is elder arcane knowledge
weary mesa
It wasn't really talked about until the end of R3 from what I remember
minor fractal
R1 through R3 you could do that, and it meant a lot of weapons could kill things a lot faster back in the day.
lavish gorge
this information is elder arcane knowledge
honestly had no idea
minor fractal
I believe I noticed it late R2 since that's when I started doing stats calculations.
A lot of people had already been using it, though, myself included.
weary mesa
yea you'd probably be one of the first one's to know
stiff otter
A lot of people had already been using it, though, myself included.
prob why people thought R1 MG two shot
minor fractal
It did, though.
10FF damage weapon before precision multipliers.
25 shot mag.
32 shots a refill.
Long range.
spark wolf
but they only did it for head cuz that's all that was talked about
other limb hitboxes aren't affected by limb destruction
minor fractal
Hell, you can still hit the head when it's destroyed if you destroy the body first on striker titans.
frozen steeple
How do people run and jump while maintaining stealth?
craggy pier
You only make sound when you land
viscid wolf
its a bug basically
woeful kiln
Being in air just doesn't count as movement
wraith crag
GUYS WE ARE DOING A3 pe but we accidentally used the bulkhead on high so are we still able to do pe weve done extreme
steel valley
nope
finite plinth
it's rerun time
wraith crag
aw that sucks cuz theres a zone 233 and we were wondering if the room existed ahh
minor fractal
That's why you always check where the DC goes to and where you can get bulkhead keys.
Also, you definitely want to do overload first.
shrewd dirge
tfw beginners dont read the UI and just pull alarm doors at random.
finite plinth
matchmaking moment
topaz anvil
moment moment
lavish gorge
how often does doc check this channel, I want to show them my latest game suggestion
frail ferry
idk tag him, maybe he'll check it
woeful kiln
now
lilac fulcrum
I read every suggestion and check the channels very frequently
lavish gorge
nah Im joking, my last suggestion was "make a gtfo battle royale"
subtle nimbus
LOL
lavish gorge
oh they came lmao, thanks doc
indigo moat
I am 95% certain at this point that dodging striker tongue attacks consistently is impossible, that homing junk is just undodgeable even when im like 10 meters away out of their 6 meter range it still hits me
once i got hit while behind the one attacking me
how do i go about fixing this issue
keen solar
I am 95% certain at this point that dodging striker tongue attacks consistently ...
Just sent you the video
indigo moat
if you dont have a level unlocked yet can u join someone who does?
shrewd dirge
yes, but ask if they're cool with it.
indigo moat
cause i feel like i need to play with someone better than me for me to get past the level of skill i have currently reached'
keen solar
Yes but people also want completions. If you go into high Tier missions without certain knowledges, they will immediately know and will probably insult you for joining the vc
indigo moat
well i mean im not so bad i cant be reliable but i cant solo a room with like multiple 3 stacks and two stacks
keen solar
Just stick with A Tier if you havenβt done extreme, overload or PE
There are always one or two show off people will join. Then you can learn from them
topaz anvil
Me :^)
indigo moat
how do i do that though?
keen solar
What do you mean
indigo moat
how do i be like "oh good sir master players, couldith thou bestow upon me your knowledge?"?
keen solar
Itβs pretty obvious when they are skilled/ pretend to be skillful. Just ask them why are you doing that, what does that do, what mechanics does that relate to
If the person can answer those questions in details, he/she probably finishes the rundown already π€
indigo moat
no i mean how i find a group?
shrewd dirge
im free to play if you want. the only floor i have left is E1.
keen solar
Especially if you are in A levels, itβs pretty chill so they have time to answer you if they want
subtle nimbus
@indigo moat do you have a mic
shrewd dirge
typically, you could, idk, ask for experienced players.
indigo moat
yes
shrewd dirge
good in a relative sense. good enough.
subtle nimbus
If you have a mic my friends and i can play with you but iβm literally terrible at the game and only have all missions but E1 done
keen solar
Or you can go βlfg need exp. player to demonstrate mechanicsβ
subtle nimbus
If youβre at least open to tips or looking to get better im willing to play any mission and can definitely give you tons of βmaster knowledgeβ
Give me like 30-40 minutes and iβll hop on
shrewd dirge
im ready after restroom
subtle nimbus
LOL no worries
shrewd dirge
gimmie a vc numero
topaz anvil
Honestly failing makes the game fun in the early levels
subtle nimbus
@shrewd dirge save me a spot LOL
subtle nimbus
Honestly failing makes the game fun in the early levels
mistakes are one of the best ways to get better especially if you get good and fixing those mistakes
keen solar
I alerted scout on purpose in A1 so that new players can learn from it ππππ
shrewd dirge
i let the new players alert the scout for me.
subtle nimbus
LOL
keen solar
Either way worksssss
topaz anvil
The amount of times I trigger that cursed room in d2 from a single kill
"oh 2 woke up...... Oh 20 woke up"
keen solar
Itβs always like that 
topaz anvil
I'm convinced it's impossible not to wake up that first room
shrewd dirge
setting off rooms in d1ex is absolute pain
indigo moat
just ping me when yall are available
topaz anvil
:c
Flexing is called using Mallet
Being able to stand the awful design of a Mallet is incredible
exotic lantern
topaz anvil
Nah I don't flex. I use sledge
tacit zealot
Does second S1 in C1 draw aggro from the cocoon room? not sure if we should clear or not
keen solar
You clear it before you do the scan yes
subtle nimbus
I use mallet because itβs the best for smashing, that kid canβt even play the game right so he wouldnβt know 
subtle nimbus
Does second S1 in C1 draw aggro from the cocoon room? not sure if we should clea...
yeah it would draw aggro
tacit zealot
bruh one guy in our lobby was just shooting giant shooters in the repop room as soon as the apex door opened π shot like 6 times with hel gun
what the fuck π
double scout aggro 6 giants all aggro π and hes like "i did all i could"
tacit zealot
C1 lobbys are hell
subtle nimbus
tacit zealot
π€‘
keen solar
C1 is cursed in so many leve
Especially when people get carried so easily right now in the early missions. No one knows how to hammer a scout
No one even know how to properly stealth and kill a giant
subtle nimbus
bro i am the dedicated host for my group cause i have god tier internet, so i am never the one to kill the scouts for my group because its riskier with the extra animations they have for the host, so im just dog shit at scouts but good at everything else and its the funniest thing
vital sierra
sprint
subtle nimbus
fair
prisma owl
Im a returning player, and is it still possible to light tap the back of the head of a striker in 1 hit kill?
subtle nimbus
yeah but you need to be facing same direction it is facing, or starting to turn away from
prisma owl
yeah but you need to be facing same direction it is facing, or starting to turn ...
thanks man
subtle nimbus
np
lavish gorge
can anyone confirm the scream cooldown?
subtle nimbus
sadly i dont ever let sleepers scream cause im just too good, so i have not been able to confirm the exact time
lavish gorge
Im trying to get better at clearing rooms, and I want to know if thats a technique I can use
ok "literally terrible at the game"
lol
subtle nimbus
LOL
vital sierra
20 - 30 seconds i guess
alpine crest
if you clear a level but don't have it officially unlocked yet (ie you play it via another player's lobby), will you have it completed once you unlock the level?
stark spade
yes, it will also show you have it completed even if the level is still locked
analog tide
stark spade
well, there's like over 700
dry rampart
can anyone confirm the scream cooldown?
Pretty sure its 15 seconds
keen solar
Only A3 and people are already planning to cheese π€‘
distant ice
I feel like it's around 15-20
fading tangle
Is foam wasted on a door if its already foamed or do the blobs get absorbed as it breaks down
dry rampart
Is foam wasted on a door if its already foamed or do the blobs get absorbed as i...
I believe max foam on a door is 9-10 anything extra is wasted but not for sure on that, if they hit the door it takes away one foam so u can cfoam it one time every hit for perma cfoam
fading tangle
yeah but there are blobs that sit on the door while it's already foamed, wasn't sure if they get absorbed as the foam that sealed the door breaks down
it'd be nice if it worked like that then people wouldn't have to worry about perfectly foaming a door but oh well
dry rampart
The big blobs that sit on the door basically tell u the hp value
For instance if u cfoam it 9 times in 9 separate areas u can see each individual blob disappear
If that makes sense
Idk if im understanding the question
fading tangle
right but lets say you foam beyond that while the door is already sealed and there are 9-10 blobs, what happens then
vital sierra
right but lets say you foam beyond that while the door is already sealed and the...
that's how you indicate the foam are slowly break
fading tangle
personally I've always done a perfect seal and then foam it slowly but never tested overly foaming a door
vital sierra
if you spread the foam out you can see all 10 foam blobs
dry rampart
Im not for sure but like i said, im p sure cfoam caps out at 10
vital sierra
foam is cap when c foamed door animation kicks in
dry rampart
foam is cap when c foamed door animation kicks in
Ah okay so cfoam cap is 9 then
fading tangle
10 blobs does the trick
dry rampart
Yea but if u do 3 blobs of 3 in different spots u save one cfoam 
vital sierra
9 blobs will foam the door if you stack the first 2 foam blobs on each other
and then spread out
when apply the 2nd foam blob on the first one, it will "register" the first one
if you spread it out without stacking the first 2 foam blobs, it will cause 10 foam blobs to foam a door
but the door will count it as 9 foam blobs
i should've made these info into a video but too lazy about it
fading tangle
between that and the fact big blobs get absorbed by one enemy cfoam really needs to be fixed in a way
overfoaming a door shouldn't be a penalty imo
fading tangle
like if you foam the floor the blob attempts to spread out some times but fails
vital sierra
big blob of foam is kinda fix
at least small enemy don't absorb the entire thing in previous rundown
fading tangle
big blob on the floor? they do
vital sierra
nope
i tried that
they eat the exact amount of foam
to freeze themself
that's why c foam in this rundown look like a buff
but it's just a fix
fading tangle
odd, on ladders they eat a lot of foam
fading tangle
personally I just wish floor foaming was more viable, if you don't make big enough blobs they just pick up a single one and keep running
vital sierra
a single foam can spawn 2 - 3 more small foam
vital sierra
personally I just wish floor foaming was more viable, if you don't make big enou...
it is
but no one did that
in our A3 run
fading tangle
yeah it's supposed to spread on the floor but it's finicky
vital sierra
i foamed the entire floor
fading tangle
you can see the small blobs just fall through the floor
vital sierra
the whole wave can't even move
fading tangle
and if you foam a big blob I don't think it spreads beyond it
vital sierra
it fused together after the 2nd one
weary mesa
Just adds to the bubble
vital sierra
so they don't spread after you put foam on the existing one
fading tangle
and the small blobs that spread out I don't think they go to big blobs
weary mesa
I wonder if they can form together with other small ones or just nothing
fading tangle
idk, if they buffed the small blob density it'd be nice
basically if they counted as a regular blob it'd have people complain less about floor foaming
vital sierra
to freeze a small enemy, you need 4 small blobs
fading tangle
reserving foam for doors mostly unless a strat allows for thee floor to be used or ladders kinda sucks
vital sierra
i haven't seen anyone tried foaming the floor
weary mesa
foam on ground combined with intimidation is a bit to strong rn imo
fading tangle
intimidation lol
weary mesa
but without intimidation it's pitiful
fading tangle
that's not a thing, enemies just have a chance to strafe when they get close to you
vital sierra
no...
fading tangle
so if you stand near the foam and have them strafe in the patch I guess thatt'd be good
weary mesa
it's definitely a looking at them thing
weary mesa
one's behind you don't care about strafing
weary mesa
it might be a combo of area near you and facing them
vital sierra
everytime you look at a striker about 10 - 15 meters away
weary mesa
But to me it just seems like facing them is enough
vital sierra
they just start strafing
if you don't look at them, they just naruto run straight at you
happen a lot on dig site since terrible "ground"
craggy pier
Anyone got a reliable strat for the D1 Extreme Queen?
weary mesa
C-foam trip-mines will fully foams any enemy that cross the line
So setting it up high enough to just foam mother and killing baby while you wait should be fine
craggy pier
Is there like a good place to do the Cfoam Tripmine spot? I haven't played that map nearly enough to know the enemy pathing
craggy pier
Ah fair just kinda wait on the left side and cfoam tripmine her then?
weary mesa
ye, babies are probably the worst part of the fight
craggy pier
OK TY β€οΈ
dry rampart
Is there like a good place to do the Cfoam Tripmine spot? I haven't played that ...
Theres a really safe spot let me get u da map real quick for what i do hold on
spark wolf
do you guys want more information on the cfoam door bug to make yourself feel even more stupid
the bug is only visual
so all the time you've spent doing your weird patterns was entirely meaningless
you put 9 blobs on a door from a single charge
that door will last as long as with your weird ass pattern
idk why you guys are so bad at testing things/just assume everything people tell you is true
dry rampart
I am aware of the one blob 9 cfoam
Thank u
But its just easier to tell health by doing separate blobs
spark wolf
Yea but if u do 3 blobs of 3 in different spots u save one cfoam <:BigBrain:7820...
no you're fucking not kekw
dry rampart
Ok
spark wolf
takes 9 hits
doesn't matter what u did
you don't save anything
you get to visually give it the fully foamed look and that's it
and as i mentioned before the only bug with that is something something first blob doesn't count
doing 1 blob and then an 8 charge will also make the door look fully foamed
as long as you land 1 of the 8 on top of the first
also i don't even think you understood
it's not just 9 as in one large blob
it's 9 in any fucking way you'd like
spread them out if you want
doesn't matter
spark wolf
But its just easier to tell health by doing separate blobs
(so you can still do this)
dry rampart
Thank u for the pro tip of 9 blobs anywhere, i might use it sometime
fading tangle
Way to be toxic about it though
spark wolf
i find it quite hilarious how the community as a whole was stupid enough to keep doing that shit while it was all for nothing
cry about it
knotty mauve
π’
woeful kiln
it's crazy what people can do to save a single C foam blob π
spark wolf
bonus points because it originated from some dude that datamined the values
distant ice
gtfo real gameplay is fighting misconceptions 
fading tangle
I always found it bs about weird foaming strats Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
spark wolf
gtfo real gameplay is fighting misconceptions <:kappa:816030312572256346>
yooo i just killed a sleeper while blocking another sleeper los with my player model
didn't aggro (..real..)
fading tangle
Body blocking is real
Intimidation is real
Hacking tool speeds up scans is real
||the snatcher in e1 is real||
craggy pier
new rundown anytime soon? seems like there taking even longer to pump them out now and just added like 4 more stages to stretch the rundowns out. year and a half we still have 0 customization or anything real to progress towards. just curious if anyone has heard anything new. road map is not updating on the site. they seem to bbe slacking more with each new rundown unfornatley.
viscid wolf
they're on their summer break
it's going to be probably a few months before R6 comes out
craggy pier
they take a awful lot and long breaks.\
lilac fulcrum
hey @craggy pier sorry that it seems like we're slacking, but in fact we've been extremely busy working on the game. We've quadrupled the size of our studio in all departments. Right now we're on our standard Swedish midsummer vacation which lasts all of July and part of August. Since we just release Rundown 5 and 5.5 right before vacation, there isn't anything to update on the roadmap.
Once we come back we'll be full steam ahead working towards the next update and working on providing communication
subtle nimbus
a lot of people still havent finished this rundown all things considered, if they didnt consider them or give people time to do the rundowns that would be dumb
craggy pier
They take long summer holidays so they can spend time with their families and have good health, this is to my understanding there could also be other points made to.
lilac fulcrum
they take a awful lot and long breaks.\
Sweden, and our company take personal health and well-being really seriously, to the point where the government and businesses require employees to take summer vacation. It's better to take vacation, and come back well rested, than to be overworked. I've come from the USA where I would take less than 5 vacation days a year and every day was stressed. Now I'm well rested and ready to come back and work better
craggy pier
@subtle nimbus its been about 9 to 10 months on the same rundown lol its time.
lilac fulcrum
No it hasn't
distant ice
They take long summer holidays so they can spend time with their families and ha...
long vacations are so you can forget all your passwords at work and lock yourself out
subtle nimbus
this rundown came out not that long ago that was a huge over exaggeration lol
lilac fulcrum
April 29th was when we released Rundown 5
subtle nimbus
sometimes you have to understand that actually programming isnt that easy and you need to have some patience for the game to develop lol
lilac fulcrum
In addition for rundown releases, it's not just "new levels" but we're creating new features. For example, the boosters is a way for us to create and use an inventory system, which is extremely helpful as we create the gear and weapon customization features for persistent rewards.
distant ice
there had better not be a 10 part limit on my gear parts doc
subtle nimbus
@lilac fulcrum i have a question, did this rundown have difficulty scaled up a bit to be able to match what you guys felt boosters would do for us?
lilac fulcrum
ok, 1 part limit 
subtle nimbus
i feel like it did
dapper nimbus
You guys are doing an awesome job <3 so rest well, then keep up the good work.
lilac fulcrum
We do not balance around boosers
subtle nimbus
ah okay
distant ice
difficulty went up because people keep overwhelmingly complaining about difficulty when A tier of new rundown is not as hard as E of last 
subtle nimbus
LOL
lilac fulcrum
earnest pulsar
@lilac fulcrum is there a way to make it so you're always crouched on ladders because holding crouch only makes you quiet and doesn't change anything
subtle nimbus
yeah a tier was a cakewalk, then they added a3 which was a VERY good transition from As to Bs
lilac fulcrum
not that i'm aware of moss
earnest pulsar
damn, that's inconvenient
subtle nimbus
just dont take ladders, jump down
craggy pier
yeah a tier was a cakewalk, then they added a3 which was a VERY good transition ...
A3 was a great map personally
subtle nimbus
yeah i liked a3
distant ice
what does that question even mean
you are as quiet on ladders as when you're crouching
subtle nimbus
it was a great step for newer players to take for understanding the forward missions
earnest pulsar
what does that question even mean
when on a ladder, you make as much noise as walking but when holding crouch, you make the same amount of noise as crouching but there's no change to speed if you hold crouch so it's just annoying
subtle nimbus
and then i liked b4 and c3 being new, like even c3 was still terminal uplink, BUT it was not identical, it was its whole own thing
distant ice
somehow i haven't noticed that
earnest pulsar
I noticed it a few hours ago while barely trying to solo A1
distant ice
doesn't look to be the case to me
craggy pier
i just want some progression to work towards. the same stages scrambled up with a little update on sceneray is gettin old. weapon or dcharactor customization some states something. i have beat the rundown 5 to 6 times already..
distant ice
only thing is it remembers whether you were crouching or standing before you entered the ladder
woven tinsel
distant ice
skill progression 
even if progression were added it wouldn't be the kind of thing that motivates you to grind levels
woeful kiln
Grind boosters π get that 50% bioscan speed or that 100% melee steroid
random rune
50% bioscan speed
but
Glowstick proximity
earnest pulsar
gross
woeful kiln
glow stick proximity is pretty good tbh
distant ice
bioscan speed
condition:
in bioscan
fading tangle
Glowstick power increase in human proximity
craggy pier
+20 special damage
In mine radius
woeful kiln
+24% special damage Hel Gun ππΎ
distant ice
regen cap +100%
condition:
health below 20%
viscid wolf
best boosters obviously max regen hp + regen speed
distant ice
the cooldown before regen starts is still the same though isn't it
spark wolf
yes
5s
but the effect goes pretty high for bold/aggressive
so it's still pretty good
wraith crag
is there any videos of the early bioscanner other than the trailer
distant ice
you sure you're not confusing it with the mapper
topaz anvil
the bioscanner from the shadow reveal video
lavish gorge
Pretty sure its 15 seconds
thanks
dry rampart
lavish gorge
the bioscanner from the shadow reveal video
the one that showed enemy on holo display moving in a wave?
topaz anvil
ye
craggy pier
Might just be a previous bio model
stray quarry
Any tips on how to take out Scouts? I've tried Melee'ing it dozens of times, but it always shifts its head about so I always end up hitting the shoulder or something
minor fractal
Either aim above the head or learn sprint aggro.
stray quarry
And I remember someone saying that you need a full charge melee to kill it on the head
What's Spring Aggro?
minor fractal
Best to let it walk into you for the most consistent hit while it walks (easiest if they're in the slouched shooter stance) or sprint before you go for the kill to force it to extend feelers.
minor fractal
Because they hold still
There's a short delay before feelers actually detect you, and then after one goes red you have roughly 1.5 seconds.
minor fractal
If you're host, they always bend their head down. If you're not host, they can either bend their head down or they can stay upright (and they usually stay upright).
stray quarry
Wait, wha? Being the host of the lobby changes those properties?
minor fractal
It's some sort of desync.
stray quarry
Right, I see
shrewd dirge
Any tips on how to take out Scouts? I've tried Melee'ing it dozens of times, but...
as host:
walk torwards, full charge, aim a little higher than you would, swing.
if they tendril, they'll crouch, crouch to meet them, aim at head, swing.
as host i dont reccomend approaching from behind, as you'll need to strafe a bit around the scout to get the head if they tendril.
if you're not in range, you can always wait for them to stand back up and go for the kill then
wise thicket
I hope they make scouts stand and bend over for every player. Not have the scouts always bend over for the host and stand for every one else.
shrewd dirge
same.
lavish gorge
as host i dont reccomend approaching from behind, as you'll need to strafe a bit...
or you can jump over their back and kill them like a cool kid
shrewd dirge
high risk, low reward, extremely cool.
minor fractal
It's weird, because they seem like they have some sort of standing animation when they tendril, but literally only non-host can get it.
lavish gorge
It's weird, because they seem like they have some sort of standing animation whe...
what do you mean by standing anim that on non host can get?
minor fractal
Scouts have animations for tendrilling up-right.
But they're never upright for host.
lavish gorge
oh ok
weary mesa
yea they can do the other animation very rarely for both host and client
So client can get bending and host can get standing
just extremely rare
minor fractal
I don't believe host can get standing at all?
wise thicket
I some times get it
minor fractal
But crouched can definitely be gotten by non-host.
I've literally never seen it since I've payed attention to it.
shrewd dirge
it might have crouched and stood up, but you didnt notice.
lavish gorge
pretty ez to test this, play b1 find the 2 scouts and see if they ever stand for you as host
covert ocean
is it possible to do b2 overload without doing extreme this rundown?
wise thicket
You have to do extreme 1st
shrewd dirge
you'd have to do overload without a repeller or a disinfect.
sounds like a hassle.
but not possible.
earnest pulsar
is it possible to do b2 overload without doing extreme this rundown?
I made a post about that in game suggestions but apparently a lot of people don't like the fact that PE is the same as doing overload for B2
topaz anvil
I don't really see the issue with it tbh
earnest pulsar
well doing overload is the same as doing PE so there's not a point to there being PE
topaz anvil
It's still a PE because you are doing 3 sectors in one run
Try not to think of r5b2 overload as a unique sector but rather an extension of extreme. Doing overload without the error alarm would be boring and too simple, but including an error alarm on both extreme and overload is even more stupid
earnest pulsar
well then there's no point to overload, it's just extreme or PE
topaz anvil
Yeah but why should you have to be able to only do overload.
earnest pulsar
because maybe the overload objective is more fun or maybe you want to do it first so you can get it out of the way
topaz anvil
If you want to do overload first go play A3 kekw
frail ferry
r5b2 overload-extreme-high would be a cake walk, same with only doing overload. that's why you can't do it that way
topaz anvil
By the time you finish extreme after doing overload, the error alarm is pointless as you'll have collected 60% of your objective already
5 minutes and you are done
frail ferry
It'll affect you going through maybe 2 rooms where a scout could spawn, but all of your doors are already no longer needed
so it takes the risk of an error alarm away
topaz anvil
^
Since the idea was to include an error alarm at the end of the optional objective, they probably chose to only put it on one so that the community doesn't blast them for 2 unique error alarms stacked up on a B tier level :^)
weary mesa
literally just R4B2 but with infectious fog
There's different things too them but the order you do the objectives is the same
Only really difference is that you could not finish extreme obj but still have the error on R4B2
covert ocean
its not really an issue, is just that my friends dont want to do pe but want to unlock e1
and with the 4 overload requirements
leaving b2 pe or c2 overload left
as the 4th overload
weary mesa
C2 overload is probably the easier one for newer players
shrewd dirge
b2 pe is significantly easier.
but realistically, if you cant do either, consider giving up.
weary mesa
Error do fuck up new player more than a 5 min scan where you have a center room to defend
covert ocean
i wouldn't consider telling new friends to give up
but for players with no experience of previous rundowns, spitters are particularly annoying
shrewd dirge
the spitters are light in that level. for overload just pull the rooms.
keen solar
You have enough ammos to pull all areas in the overload part
covert ocean
Thanks we'll try pulling all the rooms instead of trying to stealth into the spitter rooms
keen solar
if you donβt do PEs and extremes, you are technically not mentally prepared for E1 in so many levels
I know those PEs are optionals but they are kind of preparing you to get through E Tier π€
covert ocean
he probably means the c2 overload cheese
vital sierra
why cheese?
lavish gorge
how would a newbie know the cheese tho
keen solar
One sniper and two HEL rifles are enough to finish the overload part 
And itβs only 5 mins
topaz anvil
Just don't get hit
covert ocean
i personally woudn't say c2 overload is easier than b2 pe but i think the only way it could be argued is if hes referring to cheese
which makes it trivial
topaz anvil
Inb4 bulkheads that close on you to force you to stay in the objective
weary mesa
Nah I just think most new players are better at shooting than most experienced players of GTFO kekW
topaz anvil
Experienced players make it a habit of conserving as much ammo as physically possible for literally no reason. Even if they know everything about a level they will still do this
keen solar
That is also true
After playing a year of GTFO, I still donβt know how to use shotgun and revolver
topaz anvil
I joined a d2 group that unironically wanted me to hammer that class M V alarm
subtle nimbus
revolver just headshot all little guys and youre golden
shotgun just full charge hammer swing to head of big guys then 2 shot them in the back
ez
weary mesa
one shot and finish with primary
topaz anvil
Just take pistol
subtle nimbus
too much work
topaz anvil
Ur too much work
subtle nimbus
i know
weary mesa
damn
topaz anvil
:(
subtle nimbus
my gf is a determined woman to deal with me
topaz anvil
It's true. I was the gf
topaz anvil
I am bishop and a sledge main. That's all that is important
topaz anvil
Tsk
subtle nimbus
huh
frail ferry
Ur too much work
you have no idea
subtle nimbus
you have no idea
wtf
shrewd dirge
i forget, the spitter deactivation thing, that happens when the host is in a different zone right? or does it have to be more zones away.
tacit zealot
Anyone have the R2E1 solo VOD? think it was on twitch
keen solar
I think there are heaps on YT
lavish gorge
i forget, the spitter deactivation thing, that happens when the host is in a dif...
different zone, being in the same zone reactives them
might be different room thb, but I havent played around with that alot
lavish gorge
what is the point of zone 73 in d1
gentle heart
Whats a good strategy for b4
tacit zealot
can't find any r2e1 solos on yt can anyone help 
craggy pier
@odd drum R2E1 solo
tacit zealot
tyty thats it
lavish gorge
which is your favorite ( burst rifle, assault rifle, bullpup rifle )
subtle nimbus
i never got to try the bullpup so for me as of right now, assault rifle
woeful kiln
Sawed-off
lavish gorge
you get a cookie for the correct answer
also virus bullpup was like assault with more in the clip, less recoil, and longer reload I think
shrewd dirge
prior to r3, burst.
from list AR, not listed 1 DMR in party.
lavish gorge
that reminds me (dmr, dt, or rilfe) ?
steel valley
dmr
shrewd dirge
dt into the garbage.
steel valley
^^^
subtle nimbus
dmr
subtle nimbus
rifle was basicallt slightly lower damage dmr with higher ammo pool
lavish gorge
fair
craggy pier
that reminds me (dmr, dt, or rilfe) ?
dmr
it's pretty strong this rundown
i always run it
craggy pier
DMR and Sniper
lavish gorge
haha ok
craggy pier
just such a good loadout
steel valley
dmr sniper is a top tier e1 loadout ngl
lavish gorge
ah a fellow sniper brother
subtle nimbus
bro you were fully cracked with the sniper
woeful kiln
Sawed-off Hel-Gun π
craggy pier
bro you were fully cracked with the sniper
its easy to kill giants cause they move so slowly
lavish gorge
hel gun feels meh, to me
craggy pier
there's a 1-2 second gap to hit them when they're triggered
woeful kiln
hel gun feels meh, to me
well yeah it's a skill based weapon
subtle nimbus
yeah but you were flick shotting all one after the other
steel valley
hel gun is pretty damn good, especially if you have some decent boosters
craggy pier
yeah hel gun is really good
craggy pier
hel rifle is pretty good too
subtle nimbus
yeah i run hel gun and other teammates run like hel rifle and snipers
good loadout mix
steel valley
hel rifle is the pretty much the best weapon this rundown on so many fronts
craggy pier
they don't need to touch the sniper for R6
woeful kiln
i love sawed-off because it can kill all types of scouts IN THE BACK
lavish gorge
well yeah it's a skill based weapon
you calling me out? ya im pertty bad at shooting
shrewd dirge
i do dmr + helga
or
autopistol/dmr/SO + helga/CS
woeful kiln
you calling me out? ya im pertty bad at shooting
you're not that bad we've been on a run together
subtle nimbus
they don't need to touch the sniper for R6
yeah i think after r4 coming into this rundown they balanced the sniper perfectly
personal opinion though
steel valley
it's good mostly because there are just a fucking ton of giants this rundown
shrewd dirge
sniper is in a good spot because BC was yeeted.
woeful kiln
and hybrids
craggy pier
was about to say that Mit, Sniper is perfect this rundown for all the big annoying enemies
subtle nimbus
sniper is so beautiful for hybrids
craggy pier
its really ideal for most levels
lavish gorge
yeah i think after r4 coming into this rundown they balanced the sniper perfectl...
I miss my r2 sniper where I had enough shots to waste on shooters, but the new sniper is great
woeful kiln
Personally i use Sawed off for the Easy stagger
subtle nimbus
damn sniping little guys
steel valley
sawed off is nice if your ping is decent
lavish gorge
shooters deserve ever bit of it
shrewd dirge
i dont like how shooting it craters your fps
subtle nimbus
i use dmr hel gun and thats pretty decent for managing little guys, and then can swap over to helping merc bigs too
steel valley
you try to bring the sawed off when you're playing on 300+ ping and it's just suffering
woeful kiln
i've been in a very bad room in D2 where we woke like 2 scouts and there was 8 titans in the same room as me
craggy pier
virus what did you use yesterday in our D2 run?
subtle nimbus
dmr hel gun
craggy pier
gotcha
woeful kiln
while trying to survive i could stagger 6 titans and not take hits from titans
subtle nimbus
little striker 2 tap with dmr shooters 1
and if too many are coming swap to hel gun
steel valley
?
steel valley
nope
craggy pier
i dunno anymore
subtle nimbus
yeah 1 tap shooters to the head, shouldve specified
subtle nimbus
its like 4 to the body of shooters
craggy pier
didn't feel like it took more than 3 for me yesterday
subtle nimbus
but i just try to aim head on shooters with dmr
craggy pier
oh well doesn't matter
craggy pier
i just hit the head and move on
lavish gorge
does anyone know if mp does more damage then the ap?
shrewd dirge
i love when people comment on me quickdraw dmr'ing shooters when they show up.
woeful kiln
MP deals quite more damage than autopistol
lavish gorge
quickdrawing shooter with dmr and hybrids with sniper makes my life feel complete
thanks joe
subtle nimbus
r4 full auto pistol did so much more stagger
it was amazing
but damage was lower
i thinl
subtle nimbus
ah
woeful kiln
from what someone told me
lavish gorge
im start running mp, you dmr boys shoot the heads and I get body shots maximum ammo conservation
subtle nimbus
damn
woeful kiln
Real
subtle nimbus
i usually only bring mp for babies on a2
i dont like it much otherwise
id usually do smg/heavy smg for similar effect, but i honestly am more of a ar person
lavish gorge
Ive come to like it alot, probably cause I never aim my shots lol
woeful kiln
i used MP and MG on C3 extreme meme run
lavish gorge
nice
subtle nimbus
i used ar for the longest because you can potato aim and still kill
woeful kiln
Everyone had the same loadout (expect tool) and it was one of the easiest C3 extreme i ever did LOL
shrewd dirge
i like it cause its low effort softening for sleepers at distance.
subtle nimbus
fair
shrewd dirge
i use literally anything other than ar at short range.
subtle nimbus
LOL
lavish gorge
even dt?
shrewd dirge
dt isnt a secondary.
lavish gorge
^^^
shrewd dirge
i meant in terms of i brought AR and its no longer close long range.
lavish gorge
got ya
obsidian depot
is the giant's crotch a break point stagger spot?
quaint laurel
two full charges if you're facing the front at waist level
if you're going for staggers to save aim
go for full-charge swings at limbs and head
if you're accurate, you'll stagger every time
quaint laurel
Ok
Let me fix my statement then
Wait for the stagger animation to finish BEFORE you swing again
should stagger on each hit if you hit a limb, head, or back
avoid the waist
spark wolf
but you can perfectly aim at x while being blocked by y
despite y not being a visible obstacle
quaint laurel
I have no idea what you're saying
spark wolf
a destroyed limb still has the full hitbox
and can therefor block a next hit
without you expecting it to
additionally, chest hitbox is way larger than the actual chest
and overlaps with other hitboxes
so despite perfectly aiming at what's clearly an arm
it could still be a chest hit
quaint laurel
That's cool and all
But I aim for the limbs when meleeing a giant
and it works
Just trying to pass off that advice to someone who asked
spark wolf
yes
you said it'll stagger everytime if you aim correctly
but aiming correctly includes avoiding those situations where the game will screw up
quaint laurel
I've got a lot of playtime and not once have I hit a giant in the limb/head without it staggering
or back
spark wolf
maybe you play too careful with it
when you push things to the limits you'll notice that the limits aren't where they should be
chest hitbox is way bigger than chest
destroyed arm hitbox is way bigger than destroyed arm
and so on
quaint laurel
That's cool
I don't test hitboxes
I'm a casual GTFO player
I play the game to have fun
I don't really "test" anything
With my accrued playtime I thought I'd answer this player's question
spark wolf
no one complained about you answering the question
quaint laurel
well you called it a lie
spark wolf
i just said that reliable thing isn't reliable
quaint laurel
and to me it is
I aim for limbs
specifically joints
knees and elbows
works 100% of the time I do it
When you cause a "break" on an enemy
it staggers without fail
Blow a hole in it's chest, stagger
spark wolf
well that's also a lie
XD
you haven't played enough i suppose
or always play as host
/good connection
spark wolf
i don't understand how people play this game so much without noticing how fucked most things are
quaint laurel
I understand the fucked things
But I don't consider giant hitboxes to be a major factor
If you wanna talk about the problems with the game, I could list em all day
I don't stan this game
I just find it fun
spark wolf
snipes scout>hits chest because chest hitbox larger than actual visual chest
truly unnoticeable
quaint laurel
I don't shoot scouts ever
Unless it's a charger scout
I typically don't bring a special that can one shot a scout unless I'm VERY close
I always just bonk 'em
spark wolf
you can aim at something and the game will shrink the aiming thingy to let you know you're in range
but the hit can still miss
quaint laurel
I guess it happens
spark wolf
and then you hit the floor and get instakilled by the thing you woke
spark wolf
still means that something that should be reliable isn't reliable
which is a rather huge problem
the game should never punish a player for it's own mistakes
but it does constantly as of now
quaint laurel
I'm not sure how often these things happen to you
But these things hardly ever happen to me
I agree it's an issue
spark wolf
it's hard to play 1 game without some shit happening if you're paying attention
quaint laurel
There's a lot of bullshit right now
distant ice
Complaining about the game to some random dude won't fix it wesley
spark wolf
quaint laurel
But the two issues that you've brought up are not a common occurrence it my runs
I can tell you some problems I experience all the time
spark wolf
collision common enough for you?