#gtfo-related-questions
vital sierra
shrewd dirge
depends on mission and objective and map
shrewd dirge
whatever just ๐ urself
dense hamlet
okki ๐
obsidian depot
pistol hel rifle will never let you down
shrewd dirge
if you're saying they increased the amount of foam in grenade and c-foam required to foam a mother, then the wiki requires updating.
because i remember getting a mother in 1 charge in r5, unless im crazy.
long ember
just curious, are they ever gonna update the road map? assuming if they will it would be after their summer break?
keen solar
they will when they are ready zzz
tacit zealot
What's the first level with sleeping babies? I know D1 and E1 have.
shrewd dirge
cant remember any others.
i think A2 has sleeping babies that wake up when the overload door opens, i dont think they're spawned.
vital sierra
only on D level and above i think
tardy junco
uh anyone got any tips on how to beat level 1
me and my pal still cant get passed it lol
light trench
Does Terminal Speed Booster speed up terminal uplinks?
vital sierra
yes
light trench
Sorry just want to be sure. So the uplink_verify's will run faster decreasing down time between code words?
vital sierra
yes
light trench
Pog. One too many C1 extreme 10 scan debacles
merry birch
big fan of ur work cap
vital sierra
thanks you
obsidian depot
probably, are you doing it solo?
obsidian depot
the class 5 might be a bit of a pain to do yourself
tacit zealot
may as well keep going if i do the class 5 ๐ฅฒ
obsidian depot
I don't think so
Charger scout is in 376 which is after the 2 class 5s and maybe the S I think
obsidian depot
may as well keep going if i do the class 5 ๐ฅฒ
time to kite ๐ฅฒ
tacit zealot
F
obsidian depot
how do you kill a scout with a dmr?
vital sierra
you shoot
craggy pier
Shoot it twice
obsidian depot
is it doable with both host and client?
knotty mauve
you mean have 2 people shoot it at the same time?
1 person can just hit the occiput and then follow that up with a back shot, dmr shoots fast enough for it.
spark wolf
host vs client on shooting scouts only matters for back multi
as client you can't ensure that the game will use the enemies direction that you're currently seeing
obsidian depot
oh so occiput +back is enough?
knotty mauve
yes
analog oyster
how do you kill a scout with a dmr?
you have to start by saying "hey want to see a magic trick", that works the best for me
analog oyster
all g
exotic lantern
you gotta hit them with that then when you fuck up say "i never said it was a good trick"
indigo quiver
is there a credits page somewhere in the game?
distant ice
don't think so
indigo quiver
feelswierd
topaz anvil
The whole game is just one big credits scene
scarlet onyx
What's about terminals with password in C3? Do you need them or it's lore or some logs
gentle oracle
the one in the big room that needs a password is required to progress
the other in the small room is lore
gentle oracle
all the terminals in the center room are required for the 2 uplinks
scarlet onyx
I don't know what we have to do at this point
gentle oracle
each terminal is paired
scarlet onyx
lik 1-1 1-1?
gentle oracle
do the one that isnt paired to the password terminal first
then get the password and do the other uplink
scarlet onyx
so 2 ppl for termianls and 2ppl to defend for example?
Like one have to write read uplinkcodes_01.log
and get the word for 2nd terminal right
gentle oracle
have you typed in the uplink_connects on the proper terminals?
just tryin to figure out where you are rn
gentle oracle
so you know the terminal pairs then?
scarlet onyx
how to check this? like there's 4 termianals and 1 of them has password req
on 2 of them i have to uplink
gentle oracle
when you type in the connect command itll send the request to one of the terminals
itll tell you which terminal it corresponds to on the terminal screen
scarlet onyx
oh ok like i was afraid that'll start breach
gentle oracle
after you do uplink_connect
no this is the exception
it doesnt start until you do uplink_confirm on the secondary terminal
scarlet onyx
oh ok
gentle oracle
or at least i think that was the command?
gentle oracle
yeah do the one not paired to password terminal, and then get code behind sec door
scarlet onyx
after breach is done there;s no alarm?
gentle oracle
breach?
scarlet onyx
like uplink connect and its breach/alarm
gentle oracle
you mean the uplink?
gentle oracle
we just refer to doing uplink as doing uplink
theres an alarm while you do uplink yeah
scarlet onyx
first
uplink confirm
and then
read uplinkcodes_01.log
up to 04
right
so 4 words
for the other person to type in
gentle oracle
every code itll send another file to the terminal
itll always go up in number
so for every code terminal 2 guy has to type like read uplinkcodes_01.log, read uplinkcodes_02.log, and 03.log
scarlet onyx
yea and tell 1 word from the list that;s needed for 2nd terminal like X02 or Y09 for exm
gentle oracle
yeah they need the 4 letter word corresponding to the 3 character sequence given by terminal 1
gentle oracle
uplink_verify ____
scarlet onyx
yes
gentle oracle
for every code
gentle oracle
good luck man
scarlet onyx
thanks for help
gentle oracle
np
scarlet onyx
what if it says can't run simultaneous uplinks, another uplink is already in progress
is it like 50% to guess
and now we have to do one with password first?
spark wolf
if it's saying that while you haven't attempted to start the other one
you're screwed
and have to restart your game
spark wolf
yes
scarlet onyx
always unlucky
spark wolf
did it give you that error before you tried to start the other one
scarlet onyx
like i was checking
cuz how am i supposed to check wich termianls are paired
so i typed uplink connect
and it said it needs to accept connection on the terminal with password
scarlet onyx
Is it possible to do C3 solo? xD
stark spade
if you have the time and patience
indigo quiver
and it said it needs to accept connection on the terminal with password
yea, that can happen. the paired terminal can be the one that has the password on it
minor fractal
Would probably be a kite-fest.
south bluff
vital sierra
dm mod contact
rocky karma
how many shots from cfoam launcher to freeze a scout ?
viscid wolf
generally just half charge
exotic lantern
4 if youre tapping and care for cfoam, half charge if u dont mind a little waste or speed
tacit zealot
Does anyone know where the R4C2 starting tile is reused in R5?
It's the big room with the crane at the start of Pabulum
Could've sworn I saw it in R5 but can't remember which level
exotic lantern
R4 C2 big circle room?
tacit zealot
mm
minor fractal
It's used in R5D1 on the east side of the third main zone.
minor fractal
Need any other tiles or sets of tiles?
tacit zealot
Nah that's fine Ty ray
minor fractal
Anyone know where I can get a map of R4C1 "Cognition"?
viscid wolf
don't remind me of the 11 code uplink ;;;
lilac fulcrum
i might be able to when i'm at the office on tuesday
ruby wasp
Now that i think about it doc
wouldn't it be possible to make a repo of all the previous rundowns' levels' maps ?
viscid wolf
oo that'd be sick
lilac fulcrum
well i had planned to get maps for R4 and R5 for @hard wasp for the wiki
ruby wasp
Noice ๐ณ
i recall R1, R2 & R3's maps being available on steam guides
nothing about R4 sadly (not complete)
woven tinsel
I'm headed to the C levels for the first time soon.
What's to be expected there?
stark spade
death
indigo quiver
and taxes
indigo quiver
I'm headed to the C levels for the first time soon.
What's to be expected there...
in all seriousness, expect to rely on your tools for most levels, as there is very little ammo packs on Binary and Starvation, even more so on their extreme objective, while Access has a bit more you still shouldent waste what you get
woven tinsel
Yikes.
woven tinsel
I also got to the D sections too, but I dunno what to expect there.
indigo quiver
its based around Reactors at D, Even deeper has you turn it off Ala R1D1, Error has you turn one back on
and KDS deep. well...
dont worry about that just yet
topaz anvil
E1 be like hehe KDS Deep go brr
indigo quiver
the first half of KDS Deep has you in a constant state of 85% infection
good luck having 15% health
viscid wolf
kms deep
topaz anvil
just disinfect 5head
indigo quiver
no, youve played it havent you? you know what I talking bout
exotic lantern
just dont play 4head
topaz anvil
Ur mom
fathom radish
Can i get unstuck from below the stairs :c.
rain python
Youโre stuck??? 
supple gust
Stepbro?
keen solar
Yes step bro?
hard wasp
tacit zealot
Anyone know where I can get a map of R4C1 "Cognition"?
from the korean guide https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2048812754
scarlet onyx
Is like when there are 3 scouts and all of them gonna scream. Is there gonna be 3 waves?
weary mesa
they will spawn until they reach the cap of 25 units
scarlet onyx
like they can spawn big ones or
weary mesa
then will queue the remaining enemies after you kill the first ones
yes they have a chance to spawn bigs on lower levels
later ones can spawn an assortment of enemies
hybrids, chargers, just bigs
But those are usually level based
weary mesa
all As and Bs have the same potential spawn I'm pretty sure which are smalls with a small chance to get a big
scarlet onyx
yea, a lot of them spawned and I met big one xd
dapper nimbus
How does one deal with the charger alarm from D1 (the first level VI alarm)? We always die from the huge amount of chargers.
covert apex
How does one deal with the charger alarm from D1 (the first level VI alarm)? We ...
Do you setup sniper sentries?
minor fractal
Yeah, that alarm shouldn't even be that hard.
Have fog repellers, if you're really struggling have 2 people designated to defending.
dapper nimbus
Do you setup sniper sentries?
Nope, don't even know good spots to place them x-x
minor fractal
That would do it.
covert apex
Nope, don't even know good spots to place them x-x
Put one facing one of the side zones (74/75) and one that covers the first sec_door after the class V
Should help out thin the wave, you'll still have a couple of chargers swarming you but as long as you take your time with it you should be fine
covert apex
Should help out thin the wave, you'll still have a couple of chargers swarming y...
Don't forget to throw some repellers as well to make aiming more visible
viscid wolf
oh wait
is he talking about the first alarm
or the really annoying charger alarm
that makes me die a little
covert apex
or the really annoying charger alarm
Class VI
covert apex
But even then, no need to kite that alarm lol
covert apex
dapper nimbus
Thanks for the tips y'all ^^
craggy pier
hey this is a really stupid question but I just got gtfo yesterday and did a lot of research on the game and I have to understand how the map works
Specifically how to figure out how to read the map. For example in this Rundown's A1 map I have to get to zone 63 but my issue is that the map tells me I am either in zone 61 or 62 with rooms a to in one case e but I have not been able to figure out which path to take to zone 63. Do I have to just follow the zone 62 from a to the final room in zone 62?
viscid wolf
Yup!
63 is blocked by an alarm door, which you'll find it in z62
you will need a cell to power up that door in order to be activated
indigo quiver
hey this is a really stupid question but I just got gtfo yesterday and did a lot...
if you find a room that says , for instance zone 69, passage to zone 70, 71, 73 (actual example on D-1) then it would mean that 72 is in one of the 3 listed zones, and you simple look at each door to find which one connects to it
minor kernel
Question because I am unable to find it any where, how do you do continuous pings, my friend and I have been trying to duo some levels and it would help out
minor kernel
got it, thanks
languid gale
I've been looking, but I cant find videos of charger scouts, what level(s) are they? do they have any different behaviors than normal scouts?
ionic nexus
or can find one in B1 Overload. C2 extreme? i think, dont remember. D1 and E1
languid gale
Thank you, I'll look for those levels
stark spade
also b1 overload
topaz anvil
There is also one on D2
ionic nexus
guess missed it
keen solar
B1 overload, C2 Extreme Final Code Zone, D1 heaps, D2 Third Code zone
Same as scout but they run like charger
midnight gazelle
D1 is the most accessible for charger scouts
Since you only have to do 1 alarm to get to it
To get to 1
||Pretty sure D1 only has 2 charger scouts in the entire high level.. Now there are heaps of them in extreme||
indigo quiver
Same as scout but they run like charger
nope. they dont take extra headshot damage. dont shoot the head
tacit zealot
has anyone solo'd C3? afaik everything except c3 and e1 has been solo'd and i can't find any c3 VODs
keep dying on the last scan๐ข on high
keen solar
nope. they dont take extra headshot damage. dont shoot the head
I was only talking about the movement chill. Iโm not an idiot
wanton night
What's diminished alarm?
keen solar
Smaller wave of enemies but faster spawn. Itโs basically a normal alarm if you kill them too fast.
shadow pivot
how many shots from cfoam launcher to freeze a scout ?
7
minor mist
hey anyone know when they are going to add new languages โโto the game?
lilac fulcrum
hey anyone know when they are going to add new languages โโto the game?
Language translation is something on our list however I can't promise a date just yet.
gusty patio
I saw the layout changing hotfix in the patch notes, is that an intended feature now? Played b2 extreme and had a different layout for the two runs
steel valley
that's just b2 being weird
extreme/overload (?) have somewhat randomized layouts for some reason
lilac fulcrum
Layouts changing is not a feature. We want the internal layout to always be the same so that you know what to expect.
steel valley
intentional or not, it still happens
lilac fulcrum
yeah, we're aware of it
fathom radish
Can you get stuck under some stairs?
lilac fulcrum
Can you get stuck under some stairs?
we try to not let that happen, but sometimes you can get stuck, so best not to go hiding under stairs
fathom radish
Yeah , tried it once, never again ๐
scarlet onyx
Is like doing A3 in order like this wrong? overload extreme high
I saw on vids that ppl are doing extreme high and then overload with air alarm
craggy pier
Theres nothing wrong with doing Extreme than Overload for A3. It's just more difficult because of what you mentioned.
indigo quiver
What triggers characters saying this place is big? I.e what do you think they did here? This place is enormous etc
minor fractal
Entering a room of sufficient size afaik.
indigo quiver
What constitutes as sufficient size? Like one of those connected rooms? I.E one of the rooms that connect 2 sub zones together?
I.e one half is A and one half is B? Or smaller than those?
distant ice
What constitutes as sufficient size? Like one of those connected rooms? I.E one ...
nope
there's probably a cooldown and it might have some random chance, but what causes it to start with i have no clue
and it can only happen on entering the room the first time i think
minor fractal
Either it is based on how many rooms a room you enter connects to, or I suspect there could be an internal list of rooms that have a chance to trigger it.
distant ice
rooms are generated so latter wouldn't be a very good idea
distant ice
i mean as far as i can tell rooms are somewhat randomly constructed from several parts, it's not like a whole room is one part
minor fractal
No?
I have a big spreadsheet for my own use of every single set of rooms.
You can also sometimes tell by looking at the map which rooms are the same even when they look different.
distant ice
and you can for certain say that that's how devs did it and not just the result from what we've seen
to me it always looked like there's parts of rooms that can go together and are selected randomly
minor fractal
I am very confident in that, yeah, I'm curious what rooms I wouldn't be able to account for.
Rooms can have structures in them, but I don't think those structures are the rooms.
Refinery, for example, is heavily defined by its structures.
rain python
What triggers characters saying this place is big? I.e what do you think they di...
The place being big
distant ice
that picture is not really what i'm talking about ray
minor fractal
Wdym?
distant ice
i don't pay too much attention to these things so i had to look up something i remember
let's say R1C2 92 I
can post a link to what i'm looking at if necessary
minor fractal
Right, the room w/ the elbow walkway?
distant ice
so we have that middle under and bridge part, the right side catwalk and the left side which we can also see in R1A1 just with stairs up to first zone security door
what i think is that that'd be constructed from certain parts of rooms with connections, and whatever fits those or part of those connections can get attached to form an extension to the room
at least for level generation that'd produce more variety than making whole rooms and only connecting rooms together instead of parts of rooms
minor fractal
I consider those to be structures that "slot in" for rooms, though, which would explain why these particular structures can appear in multiple places but always in the same parts of each room.
For example, elbow appears in a lot of places in R1, and that particular structure slot also appears in those places, but you can also see it in other spots for other room sets.
distant ice
really hard to discuss about this especially in non-native 
minor fractal
This also doesn't explain why elbow always has, on the same sides, the low platform room w/ small ladder and the high platform room w/ long ladder.
distant ice
hmm i guess
minor fractal
Like, if you have one particular room that you can recognize, you know what every room around you has to be (until you hit the end of the tile).
distant ice
i thought it'd be done so if unrestricted the room could go on forever through connections, just like you could have infinite-sized zone with areas connecting
minor fractal
If only.
distant ice
well only thinking about this is hard, doing it would be a nightmare 
understandable why it's not a thing but sad
still, maintaining a list of rooms for some piece of audio, when rooms are constantly added, would be a pain
simplest would be some sort of size comparison or connecting rooms as you said
minor fractal
Possibly, I could see it checking the rooms connected to the room you enter.
Yeah.
meager rover
Where warden stats?
unkempt barn
In my dreams ๐ญ
minor mist
Language translation is something on our list however I can't promise a date jus...
do not worry about giving me a date, I am satisfied with knowing that if it is going to have a translation
twin hill
do not worry about giving me a date, I am satisfied with knowing that if it is g...
Swedish only? ๐๐ผ
lilac fulcrum
Swedish only? ๐๐ผ
igpay atinlay onlyyay ๐๐ผ
twin hill
igpay atinlay onlyyay ๐๐ผ
Was that D0c-swenglish?
lilac fulcrum
oday ouyay otnay owknay igpay atinlay ?
viscid wolf
this hurts me on multiple levels
exotic lantern
oday ouyay otnay owknay igpay atinlay ?
some people dont know pig latin which is suprising
shrewd dirge
i dont know it.
for what purpose should i learn it?
lilac fulcrum
it's similar to swedish
exotic lantern
it's similar to swedish
did it actually help you learn swedish?
lilac fulcrum
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
rain python
Hjul
twin hill
it's similar to swedish
hoary relic
what does it mean when it says complete: [1,0,-,-]
uneven gulchBOT
Sectors are a mechanic which adds optional objectives to the game, ranging from altering the game state to adding other objectives. The following sectors are available:
High (Main Sector)
Extreme (Second Sector)
Overload (Third Sector)
Prisoner efficiency (All three Sectors in the same run)
Multiple sectors can be completed at the same time. In order to unlock certain tiers you will need to satisfy their sector requirements.
earnest pulsar
if there's dashes, it means that there isn't anymore optional objectives
hoary relic
i mean i didnt complete the bulkheads
earnest pulsar
high,extreme,overload,PE
for a1, you don't need to go through a bulkhead to complete the high objective
hoary relic
but if i did does it show at the completed section?
earnest pulsar
if you completed extreme and finished the level it would say 1,1,-,-
stark spade
yes, it would show [1,1]. also if you completed extreme, when you click on the mission, extreme wouldn't have a slash on it and would be brighter
hoary relic
mkay thanks
keen solar
Bulkhead doesnโt mean optional objective, it can be the main objective. I think A1 has tricked lots of beginners to think Bulkhead=optional objective :/
earnest pulsar
yeah I've had begginers say that
stark spade
A2 introduces it though
keen solar
Yeah but normally they will spend 20mins in that opening zone because they think bulkhead is a bad thing lol
But newbies donโt read any texts. I donโt blame the game either
tropic lava
So with mines right
We just had a game, and a guy had mines he put them down and blew them up and only host got downed
Nobody else took dmg, how does that work?
tropic lava
Holy crap that's hilarious
exotic lantern
idk how it works
tropic lava
We were really confused cuz I swore before I had a whole team wipe due to a mine and now its only the host
viscid wolf
I think they removed the friendly fire with mines
subtle nimbus
yeah friendly fire with mines got removed but theres no way to know that unless you play with friends and actually test it out
vital sierra
yeah friendly fire with mines got removed but theres no way to know that unless ...
it's a bug
subtle nimbus
figured it would be unintented considering no patch notes on it
subtle nimbus
thats hilarious
wait my friends and i have done it on the objective scan for high in a1, but im 99% sure thats not a datacenter, maybe that tile too?
vital sierra
yes
but datacenter happen the most
it's just the new mine function that's counter the tile itself
vital sierra
welcome to coding
subtle nimbus
the mine patch was a godsend though no doubt about it
subtle nimbus
the yin and yang of "why isnt this code working" and "how is this code working" lmao
tacit zealot
Is that related to mine explosions not being visible for ppl other than host?
get that bug a log
heady ginkgo
Do mothers not take damage in the front or something?
My 4-stack just went from 100% to 0 and it didnt die LOL
vital sierra
you know
stark spade
you have to shoot the tumors on it's back, that's the only way to damage it
vital sierra
there is this giant sacks on their back
keen solar
Learning curve
lavish gorge
Can a sawed off two tap a charger scout in the back?
fading tangle
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fallow wing
Planning on releasing the warden R4 report?
craggy pier
They will definitely be releasing the R4 stats, I'd imagine 'just a guess here' they'll release them when they come back from vacation.
rocky karma
is there no disinfect station in r5b3 ?
we all had to go down into fog cause the people down there kept dying so now all of us are max infections
exotic lantern
no disinfect
hardy anchor
sup guys, what is the easiest way to pass b4? just put mines in breakable doors and that is it, right?
spark wolf
mine doors or find good spots to fight waves
fighting in the dark + spitter sidezones is very bad so simply don't go there if you feel like you don't need to
hardy anchor
Wesley
do you encourage going into difference zones to find materials? or just sit on a spot
spark wolf
i would definitely try to do the first sidezones that don't require cells
unless you're very certain of the resource efficiency of your team
You can also get used to the timing because it's the same for every match
So you'll be able to predict waves and be better prepared for them
dawn lantern
Question(anyone can answer): what would be a good โall aroundโ load out for running solo this rundown. I usually go smg, hel rifle, and mine deployer
Anything I should change?
note: not good at head shots so pistol is probably it of the question
ruby wasp
i would've said DMR HEL Gun if it weren't for your "not good at head shots" ๐
dawn lantern
i would've said DMR HEL Gun if it weren't for your "not good at head shots" ๐
Okay, I could always just pracitce to get better at head shots
craggy pier
A good wipe with the DMR scope and maybe people will run it more
twin hill
When does Midsommar end anyways? Anyone know?
In 3-5 years
topaz anvil
Never
sacred ember
Turrets still grants enemy targeting even without ammo correct?
topaz anvil
Not as far as I'm aware
viscid wolf
A good wipe with the DMR scope and *maybe* people will run it more
the dmr scope hurts me
acog when
acog on AR when
spark wolf
how about the flying sawed off sights from teammates
distant ice
I don't use those to aim my gun tho
Then again I don't use sights to aim my gun at all most of the time
shrewd dirge
dmr is good, but if i get unused to it aiming low its a pain in the ass. i hate the scope on the dmr.
custom scope pictures when
tacit zealot
For C3 high what happens when you finish the uplink? (NOT EXTREME) Does an error alarm start and we have to run back to spawn? Or is it not loud, and rather the extraction scan starts an alarm?
iron vine
yes, ||there is an error alarm.||
tacit zealot
thx
stark spade
isn't it partially complete high -> extreme -> overload -> finish high (set order)
shrewd dirge
and extreme is the error or is overload?
stark spade
extreme I think
tacit zealot
difference between shotgun and combat shotgun?
in game stats says combat is fully automatic and normal shotgun has low range so why is the shotgun a thing then?
trying to solo b1
stark spade
the normal shotgun does more damage and has a lower spread of bullets, combat has a higher spread and deals less damage
tacit zealot
thx
so combat is always better for levels with normals, and shotgun is better for giants+chargers
correct?
vital sierra
and mother
stark spade
shotgun can also one shot charger scouts to the back
stark spade
the speedrun way is nicer though, it's so much faster and requires a lot less resources
tacit zealot
never had a lobby where we didnt cheese a2 overload
shrewd dirge
mothers would be a lot less annoying without the fog.
exotic lantern
honestly shotgun v combat depends
stark spade
I agree, it's situational
exotic lantern
if youre doing alot of horde combat/alarms combat >
vs shotgun for things like mother
it also comes down to preference
if you find yourself sliding and shooting combat prolly is better
vital sierra
never had a lobby where we didnt cheese a2 overload
why would you cheese a2 anyway
stark spade
if your speedrunning
velvet juniper
Will GTFO become optimized for weaker computers?
scarlet onyx
Does auto sentry stagger big chargers?
uneven drift
People of GTFO, which level is sofar the most difficult in GTFO?
uneven drift
@_@
I know the game is already hand holding enough but surely there is that one level. I heard the other day that apparantly R3 C1 was sofar the biggest midle finger in GTFO history
So I was wondering
vital sierra
I know the game is already hand holding enough but surely there is that one leve...
no?
craggy pier
From what I've seen:
Most annoying/tedious either R5B2 or R5C1
Hardest level this rundown I'd say R5D2 or R5E1
topaz anvil
R5e1 definitely harder than R5d2 imo
vital sierra
the only thing that's hard in R5E1 is the length
tacit zealot
B2 is tedious..?
craggy pier
B2 is tedious..?
Not to me, the sentence I put meaning annoying = B2 / tedious = C1
tacit zealot
how is it annoying
craggy pier
I've heard people say B2 is tedious but I disagree
Hmm the spitters and infection it can be annoying
tacit zealot
ah ok
craggy pier
But I'm going by what I've heard from others and a lot of people say B2 is annoying
tacit zealot
has anyone solo'd c3 yet?
indigo quiver
People of GTFO, which level is sofar the most difficult in GTFO?
R2E1 just cuz of how inexperienced us vets were back then
craggy pier
shudders in whole map kiting
indigo quiver
We have all gotten better yeah. But back thenโฆ well, the warden stats should tell you enough
craggy pier
yeah. I still love that map tho. I do wish shadow reviving was still a thing, even though I can understand why it shouldn't be.
indigo quiver
I canโt recall what you mean by that
craggy pier
Shadow Revive? Oh, the runaway revive cheese mechanic. You start the revive on someone, run away, and come back in 2 seconds. If it's still doable q__q. I wouldn't use it, but it was something I lol'd at everytime. Goofy at best.
indigo quiver
๐ oh yea haha. No itโs stops reviving at like 2 meters away from someone
craggy pier
Took away my baby (no pun intended). Big sad.
distant ice
Hardest level because players bad 
tacit zealot
is this all the mothers in r5?
||overload a2, high d1, high e1? also where is mom in d1 i forgot lol||
exotic lantern
i cant think of any of the others
tacit zealot
i think thats all of it
craggy pier
C2 has a mother in all parts
tacit zealot
thx havent played c2 much
exotic lantern
i forgot about C2
tacit zealot
not overload right?
exotic lantern
it spawns in overload
distant ice
Getting to a2 mother should be doable
exotic lantern
yeah
craggy pier
TBF, the only mother you can't really avoid in C2 is extreme
exotic lantern
yeah
indigo quiver
Iโve had to redo a reactor code cuz we couldnโt kill the Hydra fast enough in c1 or2 ( icr which one had it) ext
Died to the mum tho so it didnโt matter
exotic lantern
tanks are fun
knotty mauve
C1 extreme also has a mother
viscid wolf
||overload a2, high d1, high e1? also where is mom in d1 i forgot lol||
super late reply but C1 ex
oh someone did mention it
whoops mybad
dry rampart
||overload a2, high d1, high e1? also where is mom in d1 i forgot lol||
Theres a sleeping mother in i think itโs the third keycard room in the level before the sleeping father room on d1
tardy pike
Does anyone know the precision multiplier of hel gun? How much special damage boosters do I need to 1 shot headshot a scout with a hel gun?
subtle nimbus
you can already 1 shot a scout to the head with hel gun it just needs to be the back of the head
not sure the exact % for it to 1shot anywhere on head though
shrewd dirge
1 to back of the head
1 headshot + 1 body shot from the front
probably 3 to the chest.
realistically, you're probably looking at 75% to get the headshot in 1 from the front.
@tardy pike
not common enough to be anything more than a novelty
tardy pike
realistically, you're probably looking at 75% to get the headshot in 1 from the ...
Thanks! Yeah, 75% is a bit too much for it to be realistic
tropic lava
is this all the mothers in r5?
You forget C2. High, extreme and overload all have moms.
subtle nimbus
i dont think overload does on c2
spark wolf
even just assuming that headshot is x2 damage it would mean that you'll need 50% at max
shrewd dirge
oh shit, is headshot on scout x3?
exotic lantern
overload spawns a mother after 5 mins
shrewd dirge
i forgot. that would put it at like 90 something right?
subtle nimbus
overload spawns a mother after 5 mins
i guess weve always had boosters that made the scan faster cause all weve had were tanks
spark wolf
probably need something between 10 and 15% to oneshot headshot from front
shrewd dirge
realistically i just spitballed an absurd number because relying on boosters to kill a scout is strange.
spark wolf
yes
hel gun is fast enough to just shoot twice
and nearly every main can finish it off too
shrewd dirge
yep.
minor fractal
HEL Gun has a bad precision multiplier iirc.
shrewd dirge
it must be a <1 multiplier then, as the empirical testing gives: scout HS mult x3. hel gun damage:32~. would put it at about 96, and a scout has 84 health, but does not one shot from front of head.
mathematically, the highest the hel guns multi could possibly be would be .87, any higher and it could HS scout from front.
i guess it makes sense that when using the hel gun, it is more worth to prioritize collats than precision.
weary mesa
that's all hel weaponry
anything better would make it even more busted than it already is
dreamy sapphire
Yes hel rifle is very balanced 
vital sierra
got overbuff
ammo nerf it a bit and we can call it balanced
"fucking shotgun that penetrate and have more ammo than shotgun"
exotic lantern
same ammo cap as sniper?
vital sierra
"and more range"
just think about it right
shotgun have less ammo than the hel rifle
hel rifle deal the same (or more) damage as the shotgun
it penetrate 4 enemies or more
it has more than 15 meters range
it has more ammo than the shotgun
exotic lantern
in some cases i still prefer a shotgun to a hel gun or hel rifle
vital sierra
either nerf the hel rifle
exotic lantern
really can depend on the situation
vital sierra
you're fire the weapon in a long range
shrewd dirge
but on alarms with long range, hel weapons can be a little OP
exotic lantern
or choke points where they line up
shrewd dirge
but i think just because they might be OP for alarm trains does not mean they're OP
vital sierra
it's better
everytime we need to defend the error alarm in B3 with the chargers
just send 1 guy with hel rifle
shrewd dirge
just gonna put it out there, hel rifle is more balanced than hel revo and burst cannon
shrewd dirge
i think we're facing a fundamental problem as to why hel weapons are preferred
dead/dying enemies block bullets
craggy pier
Lawd
exotic lantern
just take a hel gun and a macro and out damage everyone
gn
then devs will be like damn this weapon is good
shrewd dirge
i personally like hel gun over rifle
vital sierra
hel gun clear the small real quick
the reason hel weapons are good because
corpse block bullet
like every other game did
and when you can penetrate them tho
vital sierra
and your point?
shrewd dirge
main guns need to be rebalanced to penetrate until first live target.
otherwise hel guns will continue to be overtuned
or at least penetrate a short range past the corpse it hits
shrewd dirge
the real problem is for a p2p game, the enemy dead/alive state realistically wont be perfect.
vital sierra
how about making ragdoll corpse have no hitbox
shrewd dirge
you can make the ragdoll corpse have no hitbox and it wont change anything
vital sierra
so it don't block bullet when you try to shot the one behind the corpse
shrewd dirge
like i said, the enemy dead/alive state of concurrency is the problem
a shot by you could register as hitting a live enemy, that the host has already acknowledged as dead, but your shot wont continue
an example is, having two people shoot a scout fairly at the same time in the head, likely both players will receive a kill marker
because these hit detections are client side, and have to be.
otherwise all hit checks need to be outsourced to the host.
vital sierra
so what you're saying is
shrewd dirge
that isnt feasible
shrewd dirge
the solution is, have weak pierce on everything thats not a shotgun
or pistol
imagine if hit detection was host side though, lmao.
you could probably lag out the host with everyone spamming combat shotgun.
exotic lantern
alpha ur pd2 runs are nice to watch
woven tinsel
Speaking of Payday 2...
vital sierra
no
tropic lava
but...
vital sierra
no
pulsar herald
but
vital sierra
just no
indigo quiver
What is being said no to?
subtle nimbus
him for payday 2
rain python
HEY GUYS itโs ya boi captain alpha and welcome back to another payday 2 overload PE full clear [gone wrong] [full cheese]. Make sure hit the like and subscribe button
subtle nimbus
you forgot the at 3am
rain python
Rundown 6 - Meeting the warden at 3am??? Jkjkโฆ unless? ๐ณ
subtle nimbus
LOL
viscid wolf
that hurt me on several levels
still gyro
can a scout spawn hybrids?
subtle nimbus
It depends on what level you do
In different levels scouts can spawn different things to better suit the theme of a mission
subtle nimbus
Uhh donโt want to spoil anything but it depends on what scout youโre fighting in that level even it can spawn different things
Yeah
still gyro
ok just making sure thanks
subtle nimbus
No problem
steel valley
all scouts on a map spawn the same enemies
doesn't matter the type
enemy variance on scout waves is typed to the tier
c - ||chance for hybrids||
d - ||chargers mixed in||
e - ||giants||
subtle nimbus
||what about the shadow scout||
steel valley
still spawns the same enemies
people think that ||shadow scout = shadows because on r4e1 there were only shadow scouts and all scouts spawned shadows on that map||
tacit tangle
Will there ever be scaled difficulty depending on how many players you have?
tacit tangle
ah my bad
craggy pier
In the deep
fallen bramble
Does the game kick you for being AFK?
craggy pier
No
exotic lantern
Where do the cells spawn in 217 C2?
orchid oxide
Are there any levels that are good for practicing scout hammering?
tacit zealot
B1 you can get to 4 scouts without any alarm
minor fractal
C2 has a lot of scouts behind the main bulkhead and 2 leading up, but it's pretty foggy w/out opening the blood door for a cell.
craggy pier
Usually you get 2 or 3 (that's what I've always had)
minor fractal
Thought it was always 4, but could be the random scout group back there.
craggy pier
I remember 1/2 being in the first room and then either 1/2 in the next room, usually those first 2 rooms have 3 in total
could just be by chance
minor fractal
Pretty sure most of the rooms back there are big enough to house scouts, only haven't seen them in some of the tiny connector areas.
Definitely killed more than 3 when exploring solo, though.
craggy pier
There might be a room or two I'm forgetting about that has a high possibility
minor fractal
Spawns would be by zone, I'd have to go back there for a count to see if it varies.
What is the zone number back there?
steel valley
4-5 iirc yeah
sacred ember
Is kiting the same in rundown 4 as it is in rundown 5?
exotic lantern
kiting is bad!
viscid wolf
yes its the same
shrewd dirge
yes, its still harder than kiting in 1-3
weary mesa
the change was from 2 to 3 iirc
weary mesa
nah faster enemies
stray quarry
Quick question:
Say I foam the door, and then they start knocking it down. Is it possible to wait for them to knock down the foam, start knocking on the door, but I quickly foam the door again?
Thereby making them start knocking the foam again?
shrewd dirge
of course
desert falcon
Yes and you can also keep foaming the door while there is still some left on it ^^
minor fractal
You can keep it foamed indefinitely as well.
minor fractal
If you let it break off entirely (no balls on the door) they damage the door itself.
You also don't need the 12 balls in a full charge, you just need 9ish, so it's arguably better to just keep it in the foamed state by adding balls.
stray quarry
Ooooooooh, I see, so I can foam it even if there is still a little bit of foam left on it
Got it, this will be fun to try
shrewd dirge
remember, any pellets past the fully foamed state are wasted
stray quarry
Yeah, I did an experiment on one run where I did a full charge on a door
Then I did another
And then went: "Huh"
"Didn't reinforce it twice"
minor fractal
Imma just record a video of what good permafoam should look like.
shrewd dirge
i'd like to see that
minor fractal
You also want to prefer the top of the door heavily, as enemies can get foamed by balls on doors as if they were on the ground which removes them from the door's extra health.
spark wolf
balls
shrewd dirge
are inert
stray quarry
Also, another thing I wanted to ask: Do sleepers target the closest door?
Or can they discern which door is not foamed, and go for that one?
Even if it's further away?
shrewd dirge
they cant tell if a door is foamed
minor fractal
They check for an open route, and if none is available (or the available route is too long) they'll break down the nearest door. They'll always try to go through doors connected to the room you're in when possible. They will also sometimes target doors on sub-optimal routes if they happen to be in very close proximity to it on their normal route, and this can result in some unpredictable and strange behavior.
@stray quarry @shrewd dirge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI-5S3pLezQ
shrewd dirge
spanks
stray quarry
Oh wow! That helps out a lot, I can now see visually what I have to do
Thank you very much, it'll be super helpful
minor fractal
Any time.
shrewd dirge
oh my, that is genius
tranquil dawn
We can no longer interact with a terminal we were able to use earlier, are we missing something or did it bug out?
shrewd dirge
yes, it has brooken
i think if everyone except the host rejoins it might fix it
so that only the host is in the party, then everyone rejoins
if the terminal is not critical, i recommend you find another if possible.
minor fractal
Only one person needs to rejoin I think.
Although that might mean only they can use it.
woeful kiln
Only one person has to rejoin. i can confirm
subtle nimbus
if terminal breaks, the last person that used it that broke it must leave and reconnect to fix it
minor fractal
I don't know that that's true since I think we've fixed it after host broke it.
woeful kiln
if terminal breaks, the last person that used it that broke it must leave and re...
nah i once broke a terminal and someone else just disconnected and reconnected and it got fixed
subtle nimbus
ooo nice
tacit zealot
best main and special weapon for reactors ? specificallly B1
distant ice
just get 2 sniper sentries, some hel rifles, and it turns into target practice
keen solar
You can have 4 sniper sentries, one sniper and HEL rifle and the rest can be randomised
Especially hybrid seems to be the common enemy in the reactor wave, sniper is extremely useful
distant ice
giant strikers, hybrids and giant chargers are all common
only big shooter left out as usual
and idk with 4 sniper sentries you might as well be afk
woeful kiln
i did B1 with 4 sniper sentry
reactor was very easy
Blood doors were Done in seconds
weary mesa
Yea sniper sentry very overpowered
All sentries have dogshit aim but sniper only requires one bullet to hit to be affective
woeful kiln
yeah and if you place it so it aims at the back it's oneshot chargers
weary mesa
It does the from the front
woeful kiln
i've had times where sniper sentry didn't kill charger from the front
distant ice
It does 80ff iirc
steel valley
it does at least 100 ff
distant ice
the oneshots on teammates are thanks to ff multiplier being baloney on tools
actual sniper sentry bodyshot isn't even enough to kill a scout
steel valley
fun
distant ice
it did mess with ereggia spreadsheet in R2 and some of R3 
viscid wolf
sniper sentry can kill scout what
craggy pier
Back mult
minor fractal
You only really need two sniper sentries for reactor tbh.
Big enemies aren't an issue since the sentries annihilate them.
two HEL rifles is very very useful for clearing the small enemies and chargers (these being the real threats).
Then again, I just like having mines so that I can solo as much of extreme as I feel like.
slow jetty
im in a1 and the zone 65 door wont let us throw we released lockdown
steel valley
host migration?
slow jetty
no
craggy pier
Did you scan on the terminal
random rune
Wait, zone 65 door? Isnโt that an alarm door to the extraction
The door to zone 64 has stayed closed for us a few times, we had to restart whenever it did
random rune
Nothing that seemed to cause it, no
keen solar
Someone had that issue. You can only restart
shrewd dirge
So whats in that lockdown zone at the end of d1?
A good amount of artifacts or just logs
stark spade
logs
craggy pier
and resources
shrewd dirge
I wonder why they give us resources at the absolute end of the mission
Unless it unlocks after the tank
It unlocks after reactor shutdown though, right?
craggy pier
I think so?
shrewd dirge
I wonder if it unlocks after the bioscan but not placing the code.
shrewd dirge
Ah.
lavish gorge
Im really coming to like the sniper, what are some primaries that work well with it?
minor fractal
Your main weapon needs to be good at fast horde clear, arguably.
I'd run burst rifle or DMR.
craggy pier
I go DMR + Sniper and BioTracker usually
lavish gorge
dmr for horde clear?
shrewd dirge
Pistol or dmr tbh
minor fractal
DMR has a faster kill rate than other weapons.
Especially since it's been buffed in R5.
woeful kiln
Pistol is very strong but skill based weapon
lavish gorge
DMR has a faster kill rate than other weapons.
huh interesting, I never knew that
minor fractal
Also, 6 kills a mag is definitely very nice.
random rune
I've not been able to figure out how it works, so maybe ya'll can help. To unlock the C tier levels, it says we need to complete 2 extreme objectives. Do those have to come from just B tier or can they come from A too?
Cause we don't want to spend too much time doing A tier extremes if they don't count
lavish gorge
any tier
random rune
Sweet, thanks 
dapper nimbus
Since rundown 5 released, the majority of players have been complaining about boosters? Why? I don't see the problem with them.
vital sierra
Since rundown 5 released, the majority of players have been complaining about bo...
they will find anything to whine about
you can just don't use it
it wasn't made for them but they complaint about it anyway
shrewd dirge
only complaint worthy booster is res eff imo
dapper nimbus
Yeah xD
vital sierra
best to ignore them
dapper nimbus
The attention seeking ones.
vital sierra
i wouldn't be bother looking on steam forum since it's a full time meme format for me
dapper nimbus
No but real talk now. Boosters can be pretty fun to use and they also help new people get into the game. You can always just opt out and not use them too.
vital sierra
a guy with 100 - 150 hours complaining about the game for a straight year with 0 point to back up
dapper nimbus
Yuuup. "bUt I've PlAYed since rUnDoWn 1"
๐คก
Damn gotta use that phrase more "Just get good".
pearl badger
hey alpha, can i have a link to that complainer? im actually curious about how memey it is
vital sierra
you can check every single steam forum post
you can see the 2 names that always appear
subtle nimbus
dreamy sapphire
I think the main complaint is that they are consumable and hard to get. So letโs say for an example I am a new player who sees someone using triple stack steroids and Iโm like wow thatโs cool I wanna try that. I grind for 30ish hours to get the boosters required and then I get to try it just once before I have to grind again
finite plinth
main complaint is probably minus melee dmg condition is pretty ass
shrewd dirge
negative melee is my least favorite.
distant ice
Means it's best downside
There's plenty of things you can find dubious about boosters overall and specific effects
dapper nimbus
Dunno, I probably would've hated boosters if they were only a "sure, here you go, have a positive effect or two" without a downside or condition.
This way it feels much more fun to use.
weary mesa
I'm just hoping that the sentries actually get an accuracy buff
distant ice
ok
ripe minnow
you can check every single steam forum post
i did it. Personally advise: dont read that, it basically is just "we want progression reeee" and "mission to long and hard, devs pls gib ez mode"
(there are some serious questions in the steam forum tho, for example "is it technically possible to solo a mission in GTFO?")
steel valley
"technically" every mission that has released is soloable
whether it's worth doing is another question
distant ice
i don't think he was asking for an answer to that
dapper nimbus
Genuine questions seem to be answered just fine, but anything else screams of attention. Like, people not understanding that the game is still in Early Access.
ripe minnow
just wanted to give an example for an question i spotted which i think is genuine and honest interest ^^
pale topaz
So whats in that lockdown zone at the end of d1?
A good amount of artifacts or j...
It opens right after you finish the reactor scan.
And you can find a log file, a couple artifacts and atleast a 4 ammo/5 med/4 tool. Or that is from what I have experienced
pale topaz
are their fog repellor consumable in b3?
It's a random chance that they will spawn. It is never guaranteed
tacit zealot
do they spawn at all in b3?
topaz anvil
They do
I often throw a fog repeller at my teammates feet when they are on the terminal so I can go grab loot
tacit zealot
cooldogs
craggy pier
Just tank fog, easy
woeful kiln
have you tried using 2 boosters to reach 100% infection resist? it helps a lot
earnest pulsar
any spoilers for R6 yet?
knotty mauve
dn
limber lance
Do the prisoners Have names? I remember in the early days that the prisoners had names and where going to chat more in game.
knotty mauve
woods, dauda, hackett and bishop
ruby wasp
woods, dauda, hackett and bishop
where schaeffer
minor fractal
Was there any word on if we were going to get R4 stats?
Was prolly gonna ping D0c to ask but figured I should make sure he hadn't answered this question somewhere already.
desert falcon
we are getting the stats, its just taking longer than usual
minor fractal
Sweet.
lilac fulcrum
That was the not so serious answer...
For a serious answer:
Yes, #the-warden stats will be posted. Plans for delivering the stats had changed, then we fell into summer vacation territory. I'll be following up with the necessary people once vacation is over.
minor fractal
Cool, good to know.
I can't wait to see my single B2 Overload only clear show up in the stats.
exotic lantern
idk what youre talking about d0c we are always serious 
spiral crag
Does anyone know the total glob count to freeze mommy? Unless I hit a funny spot, it took us over two full charges of c foam launcher, and I'd like to be more efficient in the future ๐
subtle nimbus
1 cfoam grenade does the trick, not sure the exact number on one of those
spiral crag
That was my goto the first time. We were so lucky to not find a grenade this time. So we had to glob her up haha
subtle nimbus
Ah damn
I believe if you do 4-5 globs and then a full charge it should work, as for an awake mother itโs a bit more oof
keen solar
For the moving mother, itโs pretty hard to foam unless you put the foam in a place and lead her to the trap
At the moment, if you use the foam launcher directly on the boss type monster, they will absorb the foam immediately. So they donโt get freeze ๐ฆ
vital sierra
At the moment, if you use the foam launcher directly on the boss type monster, t...
no
they will eat foam yes
but you will need a huge load of it
keen solar
But last time I used foam on tank, it just ate every full charge of foam and never freezes 
vital sierra
you need about 2 - 4 full charge
a c foam grenade are = 1 - 2 full charge of the c foam launcher
and c foam tripmine this rundown are like
2 c foam grenade combine
tacit zealot
For scout kills, does sniper need head shot or just body shot, and does hel rifle need head shot or just body shot
vital sierra
back shot is enough
there are only 1 weapon that can 1 shot scout with body shot(s) are the BC
minor fractal
R3 sniper, tho
tacit zealot
cooldogs
distant ice
technically still not 1-shot tho
past pulsar
anyone experienced an uplink bug in C3 final room?
terminals will not accept he uplink with correct IP
woeful kiln
what does the terminal give you after you type IP?
past pulsar
can't run simulatneous uplinks, another uplink is already in progress
woeful kiln
that's weird ar eyou sure you finished the other uplink?
and typed in all the codes?
shrewd dirge
so im about to start c3 uplink, is there anything i should know so that i dont softlock myself?
past pulsar
we have not even started the first
tacit zealot
sometimes if you walk to the wrong terminal it will show another ip, make sure you are at the correct terminal and no one is near another one?
past pulsar
we already tried
tacit zealot
or read the terminal that you started uplink and find the terminal you need to "uplink_connect"
or sum like that
otherwise idk ๐คทโโ๏ธ
past pulsar
thanks for trying anyway ๐
knotty mauve
you have to restart your games
viscid wolf
yup
its a known bug where if you failed it on your last attempt it transfers over for some reason @past pulsar
unfortunately there's no solution
shrewd dirge
didnt even have a failed attempt and the uplink was still blocked.
so im assuming the order is
do first uplink
open side zone for the second code
do second uplink
for c3
woeful kiln
Yes
viscid wolf
that too
viscid wolf
you've finally gtfo'd
shrewd dirge
so im guessing if anyone at all did uplink in a previous run, it can infect a new run, even on first load up.
shrewd dirge
because it was our first loadup and the uplink was borked.
viscid wolf
but if you want to be safe reopening your game might be worth it
host may have kept a lobby from last squad
shrewd dirge
i was the host, it was the only mission i started from launching the game
shrewd dirge
clearly.
i had one random in my party though, he must have died on a previous attempt then.
craggy pier
If you're reattempting it
Just don't interact with another terminal, immediately start the uplink
red solar
do you also unlock stuff in this game? thonk
craggy pier
Just levels
shrewd dirge
thankfully no.
imagine needing to grind D1 extreme for progression or random drops.
red solar
because is saw some individuals have guns in the lobby that you don't have available to choose 