the thought people have where it'll reduce over time doesn't make logical sense either
#gtfo-related-questions
spark wolf
the behaviour your expecting is relying on them having made a typo
ok
tbh everytime i pull a class 3 im expecting a class 4
distant ice
i'm not saying that's the behaviour i'm expecting
i'm saying "diminished" instead of "diminishing" is not an argument
the former doesn't make sense to me as a name anyway
spark wolf
i don't think there's anything wrong in assuming that 1) they didn't make a typo, 2) the words they use make sense in a logical way using their definition
long epoch
how long is c3 extreme?
spark wolf
therefor it be safe to assume that a diminished alarm is toned down alarm
topaz anvil
It does make a lot of sense
spark wolf
seeing as class is still given, it being a wave pointer makes sense there
but it is currently pretty meaningless because there's still "regular" alarms with easier waves
topaz anvil
My initial thoughts when seeing diminished in the alarm were: either the scans are weaker, (shorter or less scans), or less enemies
not that the scans or enemies decrease over time
Starts with a full wave of 18 and slowly drops to 1
:D
spark wolf
it's funny because the diminished alarms have like
the highest fucking ramp
they quite literally do the opposite of that
keep the A1 alarm running for some time
it doesn't get easier
topaz anvil
Diminished honestly just allows for some more exotic alarm types on A and B tier
long epoch
be quiet about diminished alarm who cares, something I care about is how long is c3 extreme?
topaz anvil
be quiet about diminished alarm who cares, something I care about is how long is...
How fast are you
long epoch
medium speed
spark wolf
extreme by itself?
topaz anvil
Long part of main is getting to main
pale topaz
It would say extreme might take upto 30 min, but most likely 20? or am i wrong
steel valley
it's just 4 zones and one of them is a single room
if you can manage the waves decently it's really not that bad at all
pale topaz
Which levels all have shadow Scouts?
strange skiff
C2 / D1, don't know for E1
pale topaz
Its C2 main right? Behind bulkhead / alarm doors
strange skiff
C2 High, in the zone behind the Class M alarm
covert apex
Ooh right forgot about that
pale topaz
Wait D2 has them?
strange skiff
Typo, wanted to type D1*
pale topaz
Oooh okay thnx
strange skiff
Can't confirm for D2, haven't been there yet xD
ruby wasp
D2 doesn't
pale topaz
Do you also know the levels with normal shadows? And shadow gaints?
ruby wasp
||D2 has shadows & big shadows||
covert apex
Do you also know the levels with normal shadows? And shadow gaints?
Shadows occur starting from C1*
pale topaz
I know C1, C2 and D1 has both, but all the other levels I dont know about
pale topaz
||D2 has shadows & big shadows||
||291 has shadow bigs, right? Not sure about 292||
long epoch
how the fuck are you supposed to hold while doing uplinks for c3
ruby wasp
||Not 291, 292 does iirc||
ruby wasp
how the fuck are you supposed to hold while doing uplinks for c3
2 people doing the codes, 2 people with sentries handling the waves
long epoch
yeah
pale topaz
||Not 291, 292 does iirc||
||Isnt 291 blood?||
ruby wasp
Also tons of mines
long epoch
3 hybrids spawned immediately and everyone fucking died
ruby wasp
oh indeed
long epoch
man
pale topaz
Cfoam doors in zone 378 (not sure if that is the right zone), The zone where you get the password
ruby wasp
we got 4 along with all the BS
long epoch
guess just get good
long epoch
nice
pale topaz
3 hybrids spawned immediately and everyone fucking died
3?! You got screwed, only got 2 max in our run. Per wave*
ruby wasp
lucky
pale topaz
And I think the first wave was 1 hyb, not sure tho
spark wolf
you must rely on your tools!!
im sure sentries work but idk why people would prefer that if tool is being spammed
sentries have a set efficiency they work at as long as they have tool
you can't make them better by throwing more tool on them
the c foam launcher and mine deployer gets more effective if you have too much tool
because you can use more of it and it'll actually be more effective
covert apex
Cfoam can literally carry you through every single alarm with the amount of tools you get
topaz anvil
What if your sentry cpu speed is really high
spark wolf
what if glu booster
covert apex
What if your sentry cpu speed is really high
Shoot more = more tool needed 
pale topaz
what if glu booster
How do those boosters actually work? Only with full charge I heard?
spark wolf
they reduce the cost of your charge
but cost will only be full numbers
so every charge has a [0, 1[ fault margin
no matter how large the charge
generally, larger charge reduces relative fault
but by no means is it required to use a full charge
most optimal way would be knowing exact numbers so you can find a charge with the smallest loss
topaz anvil
Just do maths
spark wolf
which won't necessarily be a full charge
pale topaz
Well, that is way more info then i expected. Thnx for explaining
covert apex
Well, that is way more info then i expected. Thnx for explaining
A great guide to boosters as well
(He’s australian)
pale topaz
I know that, but the glu booster was always weird to me. never knew how it worked
long epoch
how long does b4 usually take?
spark wolf
just above 30m
pale topaz
Around 33m if you succeed
long epoch
alright
wooden osprey
about 32/31m
long epoch
sounds fun
thin lion
so what happen if the timer run out in B4?
covert apex
what does the timer say? 
gritty girder
I suck at the game. What do I do 😄
wooden osprey
try to git gud, DIE, try again
gritty girder
but but... gah 🙂
covert apex
I suck at the game. What do I do 😄
Skill issue
tropic ferry
@lilac fulcrum was the version number for the game (.77) supposed to change like it did in r4 or were there just no significant changes
lilac fulcrum
the version number is correct
frigid lichen
This game looks great. Sorry for asking, I'm not used to this, I just got the game like 10 minutes ago and haven't played one mission yet. What would be the best thing to do if I have no experience in this game whatsoever? It may be obvious but it's hard for me to pick up on some things.
ionic nexus
look up how the game works, best way to get better than being frustrated finding out for yourself how the basics work
frigid lichen
Oh I know how things work just have no actual gameplay
Just the fear of doing something wrong really gets me and worrying it;s gonna bite me in the ass later
Sorry
ionic nexus
oh, thats ok. you get to learn how to fix your mistakes
if you mess up you can still salvage a run, just depends on knowing how to fix your mistake
rain python
This game looks great. Sorry for asking, I'm not used to this, I just got the ga...
Rawrchickennuggests has good videos for beginners and intermediate players. Goes over basic to advanced concepts/ mechanics of the game. Other than that just hop into the game and do some trial and error
frigid lichen
Rawrchickennuggests has good videos for beginners and intermediate players. Goes...
Right thanks
I'm certainly looking forward to some good gameplay
Soon
Just gotta wait for something to open in ifg beginners and see how that goes! Sorry to be a bother if I have been
cosmic birch
does anyone know what a diminished alarm means yet?
cosmic birch
thank you
sturdy bramble
Ok, so I copied someone's lobby ID from discord
where the heck do I paste it to join in?
stark spade
on the rundown screen there should be a red box that says join this persons lobby
sturdy bramble
Will the new update download automatically or do I have to manually update it?
vital sierra
if you didn't pirate it, yes it will automatically update
vital sierra
then yes, just click update and it will update the game
sturdy bramble
ok just making sure I didn't want to miss out on anything
exotic lantern
if the game doesnt update, try verifying the game files
vital sierra
or steam just automatically update for you if you did have the game update automatically
sturdy bramble
yes
vital sierra
you might thinking, why did i say thing like that
my answer is that, sometime ago, there was some dummy dumb dumb who pirate the game and ask the same thing
or similar thing
sturdy bramble
ahhh gotcha
no im 100% legit, just little bit dumb with these "early access" things
usually buy my games fully finished
so I didn't know what the norm was
frigid lichen
Are you able to join mid-game or will you just have to wait till it's the lobby where each character is facing you?
craggy pier
You can join mid-game
frigid lichen
thanks
strong python
What is req to unlock E1? Ingame i cannot see
frozen nymph
is the short delay right after one mine tool deployment intentional?
distant ice
You mean you being unable to run right after placing? Intentional
pulsar herald
@frozen nymph pssst dont tell the devs. 
you can deny the slowdown if you start sprinting shortly before the mine is placed.
ionic nexus
hey thanks for bringing awareness on this bug. ill put it on the board! 
pulsar herald
Ohh no dont do it
spark wolf
topaz anvil
faint flame
distant ice
Fewer enemies in wave
frozen nymph
If you can survive the starting waves, you can definitely survive the end
spark wolf
the waves literally double in size
just the way it works atm means that waves will just spawn faster if they're small
thorny current
the waves literally double in size
so technically there is no real difference to normal scans in terms of enemy amount?
distant ice
well it happens over time, i don't know how much time
but new waves spawn so fast that this seems like just more separated groups of enemies
nerf mine deployer 
spark wolf
with tools it'll be very hard to notice a difference
because your first wave will still break a cfoam door at the same speed
and it'll still fully die to a mine
fading tangle
Nerf doors
spark wolf
i notice a difference in wave size if im not using much tools for them
and open door w/ sentry
thorny current
Thx for the info
distant ice
they need to stop with the "fast kills = instant new waves" shit
fading tangle
🤐
minor fractal
||Literally seemed like more enemies on the diminished alarm in D2||
||If you get double the waves I guess that would do it.||
spark wolf
gtfo is a rhythm game
distant ice
winter jewel
what are the cells for in b4?
gentle oracle
the side rooms in one of the hub zones
winter jewel
ok ty
tender wave
when do we get alternetif ways to take out enemys silently?
earnest pulsar
never, the hammer is silent and deadly and loud and deadly, the all in one situation weapon except for when you need range but for that you have legs
gentle oracle
is bonk not enough?
earnest pulsar
then go make a mod for a silenced pistol but don't tell anyone or you'll get reported because everyone feels the need to report every single mod when barely anyone uses them for advancement and just uses them for fun
ionic nexus
You’re not supposed to be using mods with people who don’t consent to them in their own game
weary mesa
It’s really whatever but if you’re bringing it into the vanilla game don’t™️
earnest pulsar
I never said that I use mods, I just got spammed for posting a picture of a level that me, the modder, and everyone else in the lobby had completed, and everyone was ok with the modder, and we were just shitposting for entertainment
ionic nexus
Posting pictures of mods can go in the modding server. They dont have a place here
earnest pulsar
Posting pictures of mods can go in the modding server. They dont have a place he...
but apparently " moDdInGs aGAinSt The rULe's" and this was before they linked a below par modding server
ionic nexus
they ruin the integrity of the legitimacy of runs others have made with the vanilla game. The modding server is also very well made and filled with love 
earnest pulsar
yes, all mods are to break the vanilla game and there's totally no custom rundowns that are just as hard as (and maybe better than) vanilla rundowns that are not designed around breaking the game
timid compass
Let's move on from this conversation please.
viscid wolf
people these days
visual dove
how to copy file A3
visual dove
just super baked i forgot the damn thing and how to get the commands by literally typing commands
thanks dawg lol @stark spade
viscid remnant
Does anybody know the objective order for A3 PE?
stark spade
Does anybody know the objective order for A3 PE?
||extreme -> overload -> high or
overload -> extreme -> high (recommended)||
viscid remnant
ty 💯
viscid wolf
||extreme gives you an error alarm and probably is the intended way but overload first is much easier||
fading tangle
stark spade
||extreme gives you an error alarm and probably is the intended way but overload...
||I feel like if that was the intended way, they would've just put both bulkhead keys in extreme like how they did in r4b2||
topaz anvil
||I feel like if that was the intended way, they would've just put both bulkhead...
||also the fact that you see overload long before extreme||
ionic drum
I just tried B4 and the alarm is starting right away, I watched a youtube run and their alarm didn't start until the first timer hit 0
Is this a bug that happens sometimes?
keen solar
I just tried B4 and the alarm is starting right away, I watched a youtube run an...
Played with randoms?
Did it happen multiple times with the same group?
ionic drum
yes and yes
vital sierra
did you try solo?
you can hop in a solo and test it
if it didn't happen then it could be the group
ionic drum
I mean, sure? I'm mid run right now but I can try that later
vital sierra
ok
ionic drum
we died, did it solo and it didn't happen
dreamy linden
Same group as him. Also tried solo and alarm didn't start immediately
dreamy linden
Nope
ionic drum
Neither of us,
vital sierra
ok then
it could be the host using mod or something
right now, we can't identify bug and mod since both can happen
dreamy linden
Ok. We'll just keep a lookout to see if it happens in other games. Thanks for the help
vital sierra
np
warm ether
hi guys, i got the game yesterday and im still trying to learn the terminals, how would i copy files from logs from a terminal after entering the password?
craggy pier
You just have to type the password on the terminal you need
And at 3/3 I think you need to enter extract_datacore or something of the sort
warm ether
my friend and i have found the passwords and we unlock the terminals but i cant figure out where or what i need to type in the command prompt to initiate coping the logs
midnight gazelle
my friend and i have found the passwords and we unlock the terminals but i cant ...
A3, right?
stark spade
type commands in the terminal
midnight gazelle
after you get the passwords in
midnight gazelle
just type commands and there will be some type of command like extract_datacore or something like that
soft raft
oh here comes master flare 
gottem captain. typing commands gives you a list of commands tho lmao
warm ether
A3, right?
yes its a3
midnight gazelle
oh here comes master flare <a:GrimesKiss:796822148747362304> gottem captain. typ...
noob
craggy pier
what does class V dimished door do
midnight gazelle
diminished means less enemies in a spawn wave
soft raft
diminished alarms have ||less enemies per wave||
stark spade
||less enemies per wave over time||
craggy pier
okok awesome ty
midnight gazelle
not really a spoiler
soft raft
smh flare with the no spoiler
midnight gazelle
google is a thing
soft raft
so is spoilering smart one
midnight gazelle
lol
warm ether
thank you guys
soft raft
keen solar
Yes
midnight gazelle
oh shit
i gotta go back into c3
||which terminal do I need to type the code on?||
any or..?
exotic lantern
||376 terminal @midnight gazelle ||
midnight gazelle
||376 terminal <@!97449369053192192> ||
||there is no 376 on my play. is it one of the uplink terminals?||
exotic lantern
||there is no 376 on my play. is it one of the uplink terminals?||
||zone 376 terminal is the one to type resist in||
vital sierra
||it's the big room with the terminal being a laptop||
earnest pulsar
@midnight gazelle ||the terminal in the room with the charger scout, down in the maze||
scenic plinth
vital sierra
no
tender wave
when do we get alternetif ways to take out enemys silently??
distant ice
toggle sprint vol 2
fading matrix
i need some tips with A1 second big security door, everytime we get over run there from big mobs and small ones... no clue really how to deal with. we foam everything up and place our turrets accordingly. but everything goes south there quiet fast... any tips help
earnest pulsar
if you close the door that leads to the terminal room, and then the other 3 doors, they'll break through the first door and then they'll go for the small door beneath the stairs and never the top door. foam both the first door and then the small door and then mine both. after the team scan the person with foam can keep re foaming the bottom door until you finish and you can place a sentry on the ramp outside that door facing towards it to thin the herd
fading matrix
can you re foam doors if they are broken?
distant ice
if the door itself is broken, no
if only foam, yes
earnest pulsar
as long as the door itself doesn't break
earnest pulsar
you don't have to worry about it on A1 but there are 2 different types of the normal doors one of which will break before the foam disappears
fading matrix
before it breaks? am i understanding this right
earnest pulsar
when there is foam on the door, the banging is muffled, when the foam breaks it is no longer muffled
on the doors with rounded panels anyway
fading matrix
thank you, gonna try the miner next time aswell and see how that goes. whats the most efficent mine placement? directly on the ground or on the side of the door?
earnest pulsar
you didn't have mines? they're the best tool
fading matrix
we never tried them so far tbh
earnest pulsar
you put it on a closed door and all the enemies are lined up and it kills 99.9% of them
fading matrix
oh so i just put it directly in the middle of the door and wait for them to break it?
earnest pulsar
not directly in the middle, slightly closer to the side you're on so they don't accidentally hit it but still pretty close to the door
if you foam the door first, more enemies stack up on the door so the mine takes care of more of them
plush charm
Does the difficulty scale with number of players?
plush charm
scales down or up?
craggy pier
Less players = Harder (technically)
plush charm
that should've been obvious to me
craggy pier
Everything's balanced for 4 players
plush charm
huh
craggy pier
So you get 4 players worth of resources, but also 4 players worth of sleepers and alarm scans
knotty mauve
there is no difficulty scaling. the only thing which scales with more players is how fast bioscans are
plush charm
that's understandable
plush charm
there is no difficulty scaling. the only thing which scales with more players is...
yeah that's also a valid point
stark spade
when you try to solo the r4b3 overload s1 scan 
... That scan took forever
shrewd dirge
glad they fixed that for 5
stark spade
I'm sad they normalized the speed, honestly... S1 scans were the most fun thing about R4
shrewd dirge
id rather soloers not need to resort to the latest and greatest cheese to get through a level with s1 scans
stark spade
this game isn't for solo
shrewd dirge
without a doubt
stark spade
it's not designed that way
shrewd dirge
its still enjoyable to watch them try and fail or succeed.
viscid wolf
when you try to solo the r4b3 overload s1 scan <:BlobSadde:397821499811168266>.....
the 30 minute S1 experience
midnight gazelle
there is no difficulty scaling. the only thing which scales with more players is...
the only bioscan that scales is S1 scans, all other scans dont scale.. Don't quote me on that though lol
vital sierra
team scan also scale
midnight gazelle
oh, didn't really feel like it did for me when i was playing b3 solo today but i believe you
stark spade
I doubt it
vital sierra
i'm just doing random A2 with a duo
covert apex
I doubt it
it does
vital sierra
here we go
stark spade
extract_datacore or something
stark spade
what's the command for downloading files on PC's on a4
try the command "commands." That will tell you
or type ext and hit the TAB key
mild tiger
so on b4, where there is that 30 minute timer before you can end the level, are there ways to make the timer go faster? From my limited experience just making it 5-10 minutes in is there other things i can be doing to help myself other than just "stay alive?"
stark spade
there are no ways to speed up the timer
shrewd dirge
stick together and mine doors to clear out entire waves
pick your nose in the downtime.
pearl compass
How would you rank these levels in terms of difficulty? C1 Ext, C3 Ext, D1 Ext
craggy pier
Hi, is it possible to solo matchmake in india?
im considering buying but idk atm
depends on whether i can even play with people
midnight gazelle
Hi, is it possible to solo matchmake in india?
Use LFG. Matchmake is hit or miss and barely has any players most of the time.
.t lfg
uneven gulchBOT
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
craggy pier
understood, but will there be a ping issue if i play from india?
oh wait region mb
thanks
and i know its stupid difficult but the game looks fun and im a bit of a masochist so imma play solo time to time
lavish ether
can someone tell how long R5 will be around because I would like to buy the game I just don't know if there is enough time to complete the current rundown
hard wasp
december 2022
scenic viper
I hope they test out their expedition rewards and gear progression early access goals that they still have listed as a goal on the roadmap, before they hit release. I'd rather see what ever systems, if any, end up in the game at release have actually gone through a phase of iteration and feedback.
distant ice
bug hunters 
ionic nexus
i havent seen the raodmap in awhile
lusty bramble
playtester hunters pog
ionic nexus
please dont post these
indigo quiver
LF1 C3 :prisonerefficiency: does C3 even HAVE a PE?
distant ice
Some people just say pe as full clear
topaz anvil
D2 pe as some would say
midnight gazelle
```LF1 C3 :prisonerefficiency:``` does C3 even HAVE a PE?
C3 is extreme only
But as the people above said.. they probably just meant a full clear
viscid wolf
mixed
shrewd dirge
mixed, probably.
viscid wolf
it will be different scans varying from level to level
the last one will always be a short S1 though
indigo quiver
hoo boi
steel valley
some m's no longer end in s1s
viscid wolf
really?
steel valley
most do tho
viscid wolf
ah my bad
indigo quiver
now that I think about it. 10CC actually HAS 10 people in it now
steel valley
first that comes to mind is ||first alarm in e1||
indigo quiver
the original nine + doc 😄
viscid wolf
doc isn't really a dev
hard wasp
10cc has a lot more than 10 now
indigo quiver
well, ten devs atleast
viscid wolf
does 10cc only count devs
indigo quiver
from what I remember
viscid wolf
I'm not too sure
lilac fulcrum
doc isn't really a dev
ouch
viscid wolf
wait
lilac fulcrum
10cc is more than 10 devs
viscid wolf
sorry I wasn't trying to be rude
lilac fulcrum
viscid wolf
I thought being the community manager your busy with like managing
lilac fulcrum
I know
viscid wolf
the people
lilac fulcrum
I have like 3 job roles lol
viscid wolf
ah
lilac fulcrum
community manager is about engaging with the community, advocating for the player, sharing what we're working on, etc
neon gust
server dev/admin, community manager, probably doing scripting
lilac fulcrum
then I'm also a delivery engineer which makes sure the game plays well, working with our delivery specialists QA testing the game, working with our bug hunters, managing the change lists, pushing the big green button to release the update, etc. As well as working on various engineer projects for improving systems
neon gust
thats hella job if you ask me
lilac fulcrum
ludvig's right hand man when he's not available
viscid wolf
you should take out ludvig and steal his seat
lilac fulcrum
oh god i don't want that
viscid wolf
looking forward to class 23 alarms
lilac fulcrum
i'm fine with borrowing his seat every now and then
heady fiber
looking forward to class 23 alarms
ionic nexus
isnt this just an error alarm with less steps?
midnight gazelle
Ehh, id say an error alarm with more steps tbh
distant ice
<@&408548765599793173>
timid compass
Thank you for the heads up
spark wolf
@placid loom there will still be some queued up
but it stops eventually
just gotta keep killing
placid loom
and once you open the extract door its starts spawning the extraction wave or did you basically kill everything ?
spark wolf
extraction is technically silent
the wave you usually get there is just the queued up stuff
placid loom
ooooooh now i understand
spark wolf
it has a set amount of spawns basically
so if you kill everything it's just stealth
music kept playing tho
placid loom
how were you able to transport the cells by the time i finish killing them another one spawns on top
spark wolf
no cells
placid loom
currently attempting to do it solo as well
placid loom
so in theory you could kite for like 30 min at the main hall and kill them all and then go quietly towards extract
spark wolf
fog goes up
you have to move forward
you'd want to kill while kiting
it's not just capping enemies
and then the alarm stopping once the timer is done
all spawns are queued
you're fighting the whole thing
placid loom
i was thinking of maybe killing them all with doors and mines
would speed things up
the giants basically thats what the sniper would be there for
you got a vid ?
spark wolf
yes
soon
i thought about mines too but decided not to
if you're moving through those sidezones you can no longer predict spawns that easily
weary mesa
wouldn't you lose door from spawns and fog going up
spark wolf
and the sleepers are heavy rng
placid loom
cant wait to learn a thing or two! :))
spark wolf
yeh mine strat could get really messy
with sniper sentry you just want to find a good holding point for each phase
and fully loot the hub zones inbetween waves
weary mesa
side zone make them stack too which I would assume isn't ideal
placid loom
i am retarded you need the cells for the side rooms right not for the main objective or am i lost
how do i kill scout
weary mesa
I've only seen them be used for sides zones
placid loom
yeah brain just rebooted lmao
spark wolf
yeh the first hub zone has a cell in each side zone
which goes to the sidezones in the next hub zone
placid loom
Did you ditch the fog turbine?
spark wolf
yes
i grabbed it afterwards
and looted a sidezone
before doing the alarm
which i really didn't have to because the alarm isn't really that hard
probably because usually you'd do the alarm during the protocol still
hollow adder
When you LIST on the terminal, is there a way to see if an item is in your zone, without having to query it?
Because when you are seeing 10 medipacks, its annoying to have to query all of them just to see if they are in the zone
And who would I make suggestions to?
craggy pier
do list res e_[zone number] so for example list res e_207 @hollow adder
res = resources, you can also do this for objective items as well
hollow adder
How do I know what zone I am in?
spark wolf
There's signs in the environment (which also display on the map once you've looked at them)
You can also see it on doors
And you can also just use "PING" and in the reply it'll tell you what zone you're in
dusty marten
Yea sometimes the signs can get scuffed though on the walls or erode the paint off
spark wolf
pro strat if you're in a dark room just spasm out and you'll probably end up looking at a sign
so it'll show on your map afterwards
craggy pier
A casual seizure during a midnight stroll
spark wolf
orchid grotto
Hey, I'm pretty new at the game and I'm not sure if this is possible or not. Is there anyway to mute the narrator like voice in GTFO? I may be too early in the game, but, everytime he whisper yells, 'SLEEPERS, DON'T WAKE THEM UP..' scares me dead. Thanks!
spark wolf
settings > audio > and set dialog volume to 0 to disable the voice lines
pearl compass
In C3, is it required to do high before extreme?
topaz anvil
In C3, is it required to do high before extreme?
yes
pearl compass
man then fuck error alarms
topaz anvil
its not that bad
viscid wolf
it's only pretty bad
viscid wolf
its not that bad
we had like 8 deaths through that ex part
4 of which were probably me
orchid grotto
settings > audio > and set dialog volume to 0 to disable the voice lines
Thanks!
viscid wolf
I don't know how we got the completion
tacit zealot
Which is easiest level to solo?
With what loadout too+
stark spade
Which is easiest level to solo?
With what loadout too+
I think A1 would be the easiest to solo. I did it with SMG, Combat Shotgun, and Mine Deployer
craggy pier
we had like 8 deaths through that ex part
Just foam ladders, easy right @crude forge
marble wyvern
I used mines to do high pretty smoothly, knowing how doors work and luring enemies to bang on them after you've planted will do 90% of the work for you. Save a cfoam for the middle door class 3 cluster at the end, and get all the tool that you can for extra mines after you clear the scan.
median cobalt
I'm assuming that other people beat expeditions and it still shows them as not complete too?
topaz anvil
I'm assuming that other people beat expeditions and it still shows them as not c...
Not as far as I'm aware
tacit zealot
I think A1 would be the easiest to solo. I did it with SMG, Combat Shotgun, and ...
ty
craggy pier
has anyone done the PC in 113 on C1? if so do you know what door the wave comes from?
topaz anvil
Theres only 1 terminal right
If so have 2 people at the top of the ladder and 1 person with the terminal user just
That should be enough to handle the waves
craggy pier
okok ty
crude forge
placid loom
C foam doesnt stack does it
Say you c foam a mom and she says foamed for about 5 seconds if you toss two nades it won't be 10 seconds right
vital sierra
<@&408548765599793173>
soft raft
thank you
craggy pier
Pick up cargo, wait a bit, profit
viscid wolf
cfoam nade is easiest
if you're talking about A2 overload specific, there is a stairway to the left of the bulkhead
open the door, hide upstairs and shoot the babies
then just wait there till the mother comes up the stairs, cfoam nade her and then blast her
midnight gazelle
If you are talking about A2 overload, the mother in there is not a broodmother. Just a normal one.
If you are talking about ||D1 Extreme.. Shit ton of cfoam lol||
topaz anvil
If you are talking about A2 overload, the mother in there is not a broodmother. ...
||Or your teammates can miss all the cfoam on the pmother||
indigo quiver
is the HEL gun or HEL rifle better
viscid wolf
||Or your teammates can miss all the cfoam on the pmother||
happens too much ;;
stark spade
is the HEL gun or HEL rifle better
depends on the situation
stark spade
psh the sniper is better than both of them
soft kiln
no
viscid wolf
they're pretty strong but they're the worst weapons in the game
viscid wolf
I like hel rifle
because it's more whats the word
it's more useful across most situations
snipers good for shooting big dudes
but hel rifle you can hipfire sleepers without worrying too much about ammo
stark spade
shotgun
viscid wolf
if you're running the turning around quick scoping is hard
shotguns have less ammo
and lack range
stark spade
hel rifle doesn't have that much more ammo
soft kiln
shotgun hit and run is pretty fun
viscid wolf
true but it penetrates
and smaller hipfire radius
and it reminds me of the burst cannon
;;
I think thats the main reason I use it actually
stark spade
snipers good for shooting big dudes
the sniper is good when taking on big guys, hybrids, or popping the bubbles on a tank or mother
viscid wolf
yeah but other than that the hel rifle is just better
it's excels at very specific situations
stark spade
shotguns - one shot chargers, plus it's more versatile than hel rifle
viscid wolf
in the other 80% of the level hel rifle works better
hel rifle one shots chargers
and penetrates
stark spade
for the 1 in 20 chance you line up the shot
stark spade
just use the machine gun or combat to hold an alarm
viscid wolf
the machine gun charge up time is too long
combat is my other favorite
but it doesn't kill reliably
stark spade
the machine gun charge up time is too long
it's not that slow
viscid wolf
it's not but when there is 5 of them on you it's hard to transfer shots (when they're relatively far from each other)
and my bad habit of releasing and clicking again <- this part is just me though
distant ice
2 kills 1 shot is fairly common in my experience
During waves easily more than half shots depending on layout
viscid wolf
also it's very not ammo efficient
the biggest downside I feel is ammo capacity and reload
that thing is a killer
stark spade
if you use it correctly, then it's pretty good
viscid wolf
5 shots isn't safe enough especially with stuff like giant chargers
stark spade
combat is just all around good
distant ice
Except when it comes to being consistent kekw
stark spade
just git gud 
stark spade
its not rng if you aim at the right spot 
viscid wolf
just copy csgo and make the bullets fire at the same places
neon gust
ya'll clowns
knotty mauve
^
viscid wolf
you dont understand greatness
distant ice
its not rng if you aim at the right spot <:WeSmart:794606323899564032>
Yeah just like burst dmr can consistently one burst, just only shoot at certain sleeper poses
viscid wolf
burst dmr
stark spade
burst dmr?
viscid wolf
what
neon gust
double tap
soft kiln
double tap
neon gust
hes talking about double tap or burst rifle
distant ice
Double tap
viscid wolf
I haven't used the double tap in so long
distant ice
Forgot what it's called
neon gust
grandpa didnt took his pills
viscid wolf
love that gun wish they would give it more ammo though
stark spade
just burst cancel the double tap 
more ammo efficient and precise
distant ice
Don't need no fancy names, it's burst dmr behind that mask
weary mesa
damn long range revo kinda trash
distant ice
weary mesa
full auto shotgun bad
soft kiln
guns go pew pew
viscid wolf
fo12 when
sage valve
in A3 how do i coppy the files
soft kiln
you need some special command typed in
distant ice
Type commands
soft kiln
use commands
try to type commands in terminals whenever there is a objective related to terminal
sage valve
my team dound what we think is the terminal but nothing poped up
viscid wolf
all the terminal to copy the files are in the center room
with the warden door
two of them are password protected one is open
there are terminals scattered throughout high that will have a log on it
find those terminals and read the logs in them
tropic lava
So about D2. Whats the strat for the room past the warden door with mom & scout? Do you stealth it? Blitz the mom? Trying to figure out how to handle it
covert apex
So about D2. Whats the strat for the room past the warden door with mom & scout?...
stealth
narrow wraith
full auto shotgun bad
having an opinion is eliteist, you are hereby removed from the official gtfo server. Goodday sir
weary mesa
feral hamlet
Do c-foam tripmines make noise?
minor fractal
I wouldn't think so?
Yo, did they fix the shotgun bug yet?
I can mostly consistently one-shot w/ CS, so I would assume it's fixed, but also could be getting lucky.
stark spade
Yo, did they fix the shotgun bug yet?
what bug?
minor fractal
Pellets connect with the head until the head is destroyed, after which pellets pass through the head and hit whatever is behind it.
Huge unintentional nerf to shotguns.
neon gust
No
They did fix the pump shotty damage
So now you can actually one pump chargers....... at like 2 meters
azure patio
How's the smallest shotty DMG wise? It seems like it may match Pistol in terms of ammo efficiency
stark spade
the sawed off does about the same as the regular shotgun
azure patio
So it's very ammo efficient then
noble sierra
In close range, yes
azure patio
Why would you try to snipe with a shotgun in the first place
I wonder what special weapon would match the best with it
Pump shotty?
neon gust
thats personal preference and depending on the level
azure patio
I was thinking about HEL Gun but Rifle still seems to be better in every way except for crowd control
indigo quiver
how do you get the red friendly fire mark to go away?
like if its stuck on your screen
fast pine
Friends and I ran sawed off and pump shotty only on all 4 of us an PE-ed A3 first try
10/10 meme
azure patio
the shotgun
So if I understand it correctly
Sawed off is just pump but lower ranged?
If the answer is yes I can go ahead and live a dream
vital sierra
no
saw-off deal less damage than pump
damage falloff is...
4 meters when we tested it
azure patio
I mean, is the starting damage the same
Because the falloff range being stupidly low makes sense considering how this type of shotgun works
azure patio
Welp
midnight gazelle
Initiate the influx protocol
stark spade
where's the spoiler marking???
azure patio
It also says something about "Another endless fucking alarm"
And no that's not a spoiler since it's in the job description
midnight gazelle
where's the spoiler marking???
in the description, not gonna post a spoiler for something that is public knowledge immediately
magic dagger
so me and some friends bought gtfo to play together and we were wondering if there was proximity VC?
vital sierra
so me and some friends bought gtfo to play together and we were wondering if the...
no
stark spade
in the description, not gonna post a spoiler for something that is public knowle...
fair point, my bad
tacit zealot
Does anyone remember what the different objectives for A3 are?
Can't remember what extreme is
vital sierra
||hsu||
tacit zealot
cheers
tropic lava
Does anyone remember what the different objectives for A3 are?
Extreme is: ||HSU but it activates a perma-error alarm||
Overload is: ||Find 3 cells to power a generator, but it releases infect fog in pockets all over the map||
keen solar
Overload is decently easy compare to extreme
viscid wolf
extreme is easier
tacit zealot
Which is the proper order?
stark spade
any except high first. Overload is recommended first
lofty pilot
Anybody tried the sawed-off shotty vs scouts? Yay, nay? You can ping me with the answer
vital sierra
yay
stark spade
for CS your gonna need boosters
lofty pilot
I usually rely on special for chargers anyway
Does one bullet of Hel rifle do the job against CS no boost?
lofty pilot
Ty
exotic lantern
if youre shooting front you need to count down with a friend
stark spade
or just shotgun it to the back
exotic lantern
dont all pellets have to hit for that?
stark spade
idk. I haven't struggled with it at all
vital sierra
need all pellets
uneven drift
Guys pls halp me with C2 
, the kiting strat doesn't work anymore since there are more chargers spawning now. What else can I do?
vital sierra
git gud?
uneven drift
I think I am lacking the "theoretical" part
topaz anvil
Kill more chargers
uneven drift
I suppose then it's simply kill and don't die.
topaz anvil
More or less
uneven drift
can't wait to grind it more (not)
topaz anvil
We consistently wiped to mother at the end as a 3 stack but when we had 4 we were able to pull it off
strange skiff
Hold the center of the map (where the terminal is) and pay attention to spawn.
Spawn ==> move to the right door if needed and kill.
For father, 3 focus the father, 1 make sure the others can focus the father
This is kinda the "theoretical" part
uneven drift
I better complete 
today on C2 now that I know the "theoretical" part
craggy pier
I just got the game and I am downloading, what will I expect when I first boot up the game?
neon gust
DEATH
craggy pier
smh
distant ice
If you don't want a meme answer you might want to be more specific
fallen bramble
Maybe a crash the first time
craggy pier
Like anything on boot up anything I have to configure
neon gust
That makes more sense
craggy pier
With this sort of game, I'd be pretty serious
neon gust
Enable crouch toggle
distant ice
probably base on experience tbh
neon gust
And check your keybinds like usual
distant ice
Get better fov, turn down cpu culling probably
craggy pier
Use toggle sprint : ^ )
Only boomers and console players have it on "crouch" and "aim", we PC master race users use toggle and always toggle
neon gust
Ok buddy
craggy pier
that was a joke
neon gust
Ok homie
topaz anvil
Get better fov, turn down cpu culling probably
20 FOV
topaz anvil
Toggle crouch 
neon gust
The rest its dying on the complex and learning
fading tangle
Toggle crouch isnt required. You need those pinky gains
midnight gazelle
Crouch toggle is a non pro gamer move
tropic lava
Toggle sprint > toggle crouch
fallen bramble
Have you ever tried stealth in gtfo
spark wolf
not using thumb to crouch 
topaz anvil
I crouch with a fork
viscid wolf
not using thumb to crouch <a:AmeliaSMH:848628459324047360>
Crouch on C is superior
craggy pier
My crouch is on Q
viscid wolf
take him out
midnight gazelle
My crouch is on ctrl
My depreciated burst cancel button was on my side mouse button
earnest pulsar
my crouch is on alt for easy sliding
fast pine
Crouch on mouse button gang
warm patio
Any tips I just got gtfo yesterday?
earnest pulsar
sprint with your hammer out all the time
but actually, just red light green light don't move while they're glowing and be crouching
earnest pulsar
Any tips I just got gtfo yesterday?
half charge to the head, full charge to the back in between the shoulders
warm patio
Oh I have been going full charge to the head thanks
earnest pulsar
full charge to the head for scouts
distant ice
Every level is a practice level
Bio is the best tool for learning
Recording shit is overall the best way to learn
warm patio
Ok thx a lot
distant ice
For specific tips on stealth n stuff there's guides
warm patio
Ok
earnest pulsar
oh and light alerts them which you can use to sync them stretching
minor moss
Unsure if this is spoiler, so doing it just to be sure ||Do charger scouts have the same HP and back multiplier as normal scouts? I.e. a normal scout you can melee in the back if you have a 5% melee bonus, does the same hold for charger scouts? I'd test it myself but I only have the one booster||
indigo quiver
on C-2 next to the 213 Security door, there is a terminal that I cant use. is that a bug or a feature?
shrewd dirge
you might have broken it
happens randomly and when too many people rush the terminal at once.
pearl compass
Tool load-out suggestions for C3, and for C3 Extreme?
exotic lantern
For me 2 sniper sentry, Cfoam, Mines worked
heady fiber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3MxSSeKtvo
Anyone know why these big chargers aggro'd?
shrewd dirge
that is uhh
heady fiber
neither of us moved/had lights on, I only rotated my cam
shrewd dirge
interesting, it wasnt anything i could see
viscid wolf
maybe ping
heady fiber
yeah that's what my friend said, that it was a delayed aggro from getting off the ladder
unsure though
heady fiber
ye we were duoing
shrewd dirge
but like, there wasnt much you could really do.
i dont feel like getting off the ladder made that much noise
shrewd dirge
all ill say is, dont crowd giants, even when meleeing
heady fiber
ye we had no choice though, it was right off the ladder 2 giant chargers
shrewd dirge
there's nothing i could really say that would help you in that situation.
sucks.
heady fiber
viscid wolf
gtfo wiki update when
minor moss
on/off ladder is like the same as a step
did one of you courch/uncrouch maybe?
viscid wolf
I doubt it
crouching/uncrouching doesn't trigger a pulsing character unless you're spamming it
they still have a small meter before they go off in pulsing phase
vital sierra
crouching/uncrouching doesn't trigger a pulsing character unless you're spamming...
still count
viscid wolf
true
rare roost
There was a random purple spark on my screen popped up for 1 second and disappeared does anyone know what that is?
vital sierra
graphic card issue or something
heady fiber
From the moment I got off the ladder none of us physically moved in any way
scenic viper
any tricks for being able to see scouts in dark rooms while hunting them, without unintentionally triggering tentacle moded
mode*
viscid wolf
well first and foremost biotracker is the easiest way
scenic viper
im usually playing in groups that are down a person or even 2, so we're usually tight on tools for alarms
viscid wolf
if you don't have one just wait for the tentacle to retract and just guess it's direction
if you practice enough you can straight up sprint at the scout and run through it's tentacles
with your flashlight on
scenic viper
is that the best way to kill them
viscid wolf
other than that crouch walk and use your flightlight in intervals
scenic viper
so far i usually end up crouched under the tentacles and hitting them while they're ducked down
viscid wolf
extended feelers work on a meter system so as long as you dont walk (standing up) or use your flashlight too much it should keep walking
scenic viper
hmm.. ok. I'll experiment more, thanks.
scenic viper
which shotgun has better single target dps
viscid wolf
choke mod
scenic viper
that one doesnt exist anymore
viscid wolf
pain
I cry every tiem ;;;
if you're talking about scout killing most can kill the scout from close enough
scenic viper
im just sort of trying to figure out which one i'd rather have in my secondary slot for general combat
viscid wolf
shotgun is all around more consistent
combat shotgun is great if you facing big crowds
rarely 1 shots a sleeper but in big crowds you can spam the absolute fuck out of that thing
scenic viper
in what scenario would the regular shotgun be preferred
viscid wolf
on levels wheres there's more single target attention
think of stuff like B1 HSU zone for big chargers
scenic viper
gotcha
viscid wolf
general giants and big shooters and that stuff
scenic viper
isnt something like the hel rifle gonna be preferred for those targets anyways
viscid wolf
when you're facing stuff like S1's or just massive alarms combat is the way to go
yeah
I run the hel rifle in anything B tier or harder
more around more consistent
shotguns are great if you want a failsafe though
hel rifle is good for holding down hordes of enemies
but it's limited to mid to far range and when there's a swarm it's hard to fight it
the reload times are pretty long too
scenic viper
i feel like its hard to use the regular shotgun to fight hordes too
viscid wolf
shotguns are good for when something gets a bit too close
yeah that's what the combat shotgun is for
say you're on B1 and your hel rifle user runs out of his mag
that shotgun is there to keep your teammates alive
good dps for single targets
actually fuck it HEL Rifle everything that thing is my baby
scenic viper
i kept trying to use the regular shotgun but it keeps feeling like its niche of "ok against groups, strong against single targets, but have to be close to both" is better handled by like
combat shotgun can target the same things when close and kills groups way better and still chews through the big targets and staggers them? and if you want anything that can handle single targets at mid range or longer why not just use a sniper or hel rifle
viscid wolf
I like the regular shotgun just because of it's consistency
other than that another shotgun is probably better
scenic viper
maybe i'd like the regular shotgun more if i was running a primary that wasn't good in most scenarios already? I tend to use the assault rifle
scenic viper
ar pog
viscid wolf
none of this rundown weapons click with me
neither did R4 really
bullpup rifle when ;;;
viscid wolf
ew mozambique
scenic viper
no but its not garbage ;-;
viscid wolf
why would anyone wanna ru the mozambique
viscid wolf
it's bad just for the sake of looking like the mozambique
scenic viper
reload is so fast though
viscid wolf
true but that one second could get you killed
especially if you're doing it constantly like the mozam
scenic viper
so could not getting 3 consecutive 1 shots + staggers on the enemies around them though
in terms of primary weapons
idk i've had a really surprisingly great experience with it
if im running a rifle in my secondary its my go to
viscid wolf
fair but with the ar you have the potential to stagger more than 3 targets
if you choose not to kill them you can stagger like 7 targets at once
scenic viper
yeah but odds are less than 3 die when you're doin that
viscid wolf
true
scenic viper
don't get me wrong
i love the AR for its stagger
thats basically why i bring it
but its ability to kill quickly is sort of lacking compared to some other guns
viscid wolf
yeah I get what you mean
I run the ar just because it feels very middle ground ey
also none of the other guns sound good
or feel good
viscid wolf
what
craggy pier
: ^ )
craggy pier
Hence I specified body shots
viscid wolf
and 30/4 is still like 7 and a half
I think
I mean what else am I gonna use?
budget auto pistol?
viscid wolf
please bring autopistol back ;;
scenic viper
heavy smg staggers better i guess but the lower ammo count and slower reload frustrate me
craggy pier
Dtr if you like burst weapons
craggy pier
heavy smg staggers better i guess but the lower ammo count and slower reload fru...
You mean discount ar?
scenic viper
even if it also has better ammo efficiency and shots to kill
craggy pier
: ^ )
scenic viper
it litterally kills in less shots, less time, and more ammo efficiency
"budget AR" my ass
craggy pier
HSMG and AR barely has any difference damage wise
scenic viper
one kills in 5 shots, one kills in 7
craggy pier
AR just has better range
viscid wolf
the heavy smg also has less ammo per mag
and less ammo overall
and sounds like it shoots legos
craggy pier
Ar and HSMG both deal 2 damage
scenic viper
more kills per mag and refill overall
viscid wolf
fuck I already said that last part
craggy pier
||2.1875 and 2.01 respectively|| datamined
viscid wolf
Ar and HSMG both deal 2 damage
heavy smg pops the head in 3 giving you more damage
scenic viper
^
viscid wolf
you can test it
scenic viper
lower head damage = 3 headshots instead of 2
spreadsheet has numbers, and you can test to confirm if you don't believe
wait thats wrong math
craggy pier
Bruh
scenic viper
ignore the second half
im stupid af
first prat is true though
10 kills per ammo refill vs 8
HSMG is more ammo efficient is what i was trying to get across
viscid wolf
5 and 4 per mag
scenic viper
kills in slightly fewer shots
viscid wolf
yeah but lower mag size
craggy pier
kills in slightly fewer shots
Ar right
scenic viper
ye
viscid wolf
5 shots to kill but 25 mag size
viscid wolf
25/5 = 5
scenic viper
end result is like 4.2 kills / mag, vs ar's 4, but significantly better ammo efficiency
viscid wolf
oh you mean shots to kill
viscid wolf
good luck with chargers tho
the answer to everything is hel rifle
scenic viper
shrug
neon gust
and like actually hitting your shots to have all those numbers you throwing
Heavy ar/smg its a meme
scenic viper
its one extra shot / charger
compared to AR
ammo efficiency 3ends with them literally even
viscid wolf
I liked how the heavy ar felt
scenic viper
you're still better off theoretically
viscid wolf
but dropped it because it was hard to control and was pretty weak
scenic viper
If you can control the hsmg, you have equal ammo efficiency vs chargers and better vs shooters n strikers