well shooter heads only break on death, so giant variants won't have their heads break in a single swing
#gtfo-related-questions
steel valley
craggy pier
Usually the chest of a giant*
ember marlin
what is kiting?
topaz anvil
Running through and away the enemies to stop them hitting you
ember marlin
gotcha
craggy pier
was there some hidden update recently? c2 z12 alarm seems to be a guaranteed hybrid spawn now.. i'm fairly confident this was not a thing before
neon gust
Came with the extension
craggy pier
ah
craggy pier
true
I remember one time during a surge, one teammate went apeshit calling out giant chargers
neon gust
Nice
My friend tried to show me the "new enemy" in the surges
Mid hammer fight i just choke mod the poor man
soft kiln
the new enemy is your friend
craggy pier
When you're a sleeper amongst the sleepers
soft kiln
slowing down the surge process 
topaz anvil
Hybrid Surge when
neon gust
spark wolf
it's not a guaranteed hybrid spawn and has nothing to do with the surge alarm change other than the timing
since extension you can't get regular giant strikers anymore for the alarm to zone 12
those are the ones that were replaced with hybrids
intentional or not i can't answer that
shrewd dirge
can mothers climb ladders?
pearl badger
i think not
rain python
yes
flat rock
Yes
neon gust
Yes
keen solar
Hybrid Surge when
You can just looking at the floor
vital sierra
or be a real players and use the tutorial
open pecan
Are ||Chargers|| new to this rundown? I don't remember
open pecan
Wow! I don't know how I never saw them up until now
In previous rundowns, that is
Can I really call myself a prisoner 
open pecan
Why'd it skip 2?
steel valley
noone knows
austere bronze
r2e1, except the surge alarms are charger surge alarms
open pecan
Wait, are surge alarms bad? Some people are saying as much
Not "bad" as in "difficult", but poorly designed
open pecan
The universal constant
obtuse horizon
I've noticed a lot of people rush kill scouts no matter their positioning, I'm only able to to kill them if they're standing or if they're crouching facing me, how do you deal with them when they bend over facing away? I just can't reach their head, do you have any tip?
craggy pier
If you're quick enough, you can rotate around it
obtuse horizon
that's what I usually try, but I swear I see people just killing them from behind even when they crouch
craggy pier
Well... scout's position is different from host and client
obtuse horizon
oh I think you just answered my question then lmao, thank you!
steel valley
^basically what ricardo said, if you're host/very low ping the scout is much more likely to be bent over than if you have higher ping
so people will appear to swing at the air above a scout's body, but on their screen the head is up
wary linden
Scout hitbox is really weird... Had some instance where i hit the back of a scout and it still killed her without triggering and with her head intact... I also had time i just conpletely missed the scout and it counted as a kill 🤷 (not as host)
spark wolf
head intact makes sense
back damage multiplier doesn't count towards head/limb destruction
if you half charge a scout head from the back it dies but the head remains
same for double full charge from the back on a big shooter or a hybrid
it's also why the head doesn't pop for a chargeless kill on a regular shooter
loud cobalt
Is the sound down?
when i play the audio its fine, but when i get into game its like dampened
all 4 of us are experiencing it
distant ice
rr game
sudden burrow
Try a restart yeah
I’ve had that happen when I returned to lobby during a scout scream
loud cobalt
thanks its worked, now we cant hear each other in game lol
distant ice
🤔
it's either that or being tabbed (in map screen) when team wipes
dunno other causes
lilac nacelle
Hey guys, quick question : I see that you need to achieve some "milestone" to enter some floors in the rundown (for example, C need 1 extreme and several High). Do you need the 4 players to obtain the whole milestone or do you need only the host of the lobby?
gilded jolt
only host
Preferably everyone should do it to ensure that everyone is prepared for it but only host really needs to have the requirements fulfilled
lilac nacelle
Yes of course, but thanks for the answer 😉
modern lily
me and my friends have been suck on B1, we suck. how do we beat it lol we always get fucked at the end
we need tips
shrewd dirge
@modern lily where exactly are you stuck on B1?
modern lily
we usually run out of resources by the end
and just end up getting bombarded by a wave
noble sierra
Assume you're doing B1 high, there's an extra cell allows you opened a supply zone, you can restock for the final class IV alarm + blood door.
This meant to teach you the importance of using terminal.
shrewd dirge
hit the resource room in high.
modern lily
we have been using the terminal and used it for the generators and stuff but we didnt know about a resource room
how do we find that?
shrewd dirge
take the door on the right after finishing the first alarm door
bring the extra cell with you to get in
noble sierra
After the class III alarm in Z54, fully explore Z55, you should find a security door heading towards the supply room (should be at the SOUTH side of Z55)
modern pulsar
I don't recall any alarms (at least ones that actually send waves) before the part we got stuck on so we might actually be on the part right before that. (and we just thought we were at the end I guess?)
shrewd dirge
you still have a while to go to the end
are you burning ammo on the workup before high?
most of that can either be stealthed, hammered, or with the right gun choices: obliterated.
modern pulsar
What would u recommend for weapons?
noble sierra
If you haven't encounter the alarm then yeah, there's still quite some journey
modern pulsar
So there's a lot more even after u get all the generators?
noble sierra
Not a lot, but decently long
modern lily
so the resources is after that
shrewd dirge
so after you get all the gens you:
||have the option of hitting the resource room if you want it||
|| another alarm + scout||
||blood door then extract||
noble sierra
The generators part is basically teaching you to kill giants stealthy as a team.
modern pulsar
We've been using snipers to take them out. Is there a better way?
noble sierra
Sync hammer kill, 3 from the back for a striker
shrewd dirge
keep in mind, guns do more damage from behind. in stealth most guns have good giant killing potential, save for a few.
other than that, either sync or chain hammer.
giant strikers are worth spending ammo on.
giant shooters are ammo sponges and a minimal threat, bully them with your hammer.
modern lily
what loadouts should we use?
shrewd dirge
frankly, for a mission as simple as B1, take what you like.
dont discount hammering where possible.
reccomended tools: C-foam, mines, sniper sentry, auto sentry
neon slate
If a titan is active, focus on fully charging and breaking off body-parts while it's doing the tongue attack
the body part destruction will cause stagger which will buy enough time for teammates to follow up with fully charged hammers
Good places to attack are the arms, legs, head, and stomach
distant ice
except when they cancel into melee attack and still do the tongue attack as well anyway
kekw
neon slate
Yea do be like that
'specially sucks if they bug out and do double punch in one punch
vital sierra
try hitting the head
if 1 of you can manage to hit the head, the giant won't melee
and after that, the whole team can go behind the giant
and full charge the back = 100% dead
frozen nymph
Good places to attack are the arms, legs, head, and stomach
thanks for the info! i know where to bonk other than the head and back now 
neon slate
also taking advantage of the lack of collision on sleepers to quickly move behind them is neat
vital sierra
you can even do it the normal way
i'm just being cautious
the devs can add that mechanic in at any time in the future
neon slate
Though it'd be nice that the enemy collision does exist so that they don't zip under your legs and lick you from behind
austere bronze
i'm more annoyed at when they clip into objects when they play their attack animation
literally cant hit heads on stairs
craggy pier
Or anything that clips into walls tbh
shrewd dirge
Wait what? Giants without a head dont melee?
Surely that cant be true
amber osprey
I think it's more that they get automatically staggered to the point of cancel I guess
distant ice
That goes for any limb breaking
neon gust
Chargers teleporting are probably the biggest insult here
Had one fighting me like dragon ball z because he keep teleporting and i couldnt see him
The second ill try to bash him to stagger he would teleport and clip trough another wall teleporting to another place
craggy pier
Mans going from melee -> teleport -> melee again
neon gust
Man pull an omaewa mo shindeiru 12 times
ember marlin
We've been using snipers to take them out. Is there a better way?
so actually i recently found out that you can stun the giants by hitting them in their limbs, and if you time your full charges right, you can take out a giant with just two people. just continue hitting different limbs with full charges and it works wonders
sly jackal
so my antire game is just like pixlelated constantly, i don't know what to do this is the first time this has happened to me. please @ me if this has happpend to you or have info on how to fix it
tropic ferry
did you check your resolution
amber osprey
C2 High works too
craggy pier
B3 Overload has the mothers, not extreme
cosmic crest
for the first time my group is stuck on a level, any tips/tricks for C3 ?
We are fairly new to the game (50+/- hours) but it is either that or prisoner efficiency, but I feel like we are missing something to be able to do C3.
austere bronze
For C3 you should do extreme. Doing extreme makes the fog uninfectious and raises the fog level, making every low room fogless.
cosmic crest
So C3 extreme is easier than normal C3 ? cause the fog is our biggest problem, we are able to kite enemies and even play around with them, but the poison just destroy us.
austere bronze
Yeah
Once you get inside the extreme bulkhead, you're basically clear of fog.
Put the first cell into the generator when you find it to lower the fog a bit, as well.
Beyond that, you shouldn't bother trying to stealth any of the foggy zones.
Just go open the door with some repellers, shoot once/shoot the scout, then run out.
shrewd dirge
speed is essential for c3 high, or at least minimizing infection by pulling rooms/shooting scouts.
austere bronze
Yeah just clear the rooms by shooting once to draw them out.
Then go back and pick up some more fog repellers to make your way to the bulkhead controller and extreme scan.
It also helps to have a mental map of the foggy zone.
shrewd dirge
tbf, once you're in high. you're free of most of the fog anyway.
cosmic crest
so clearing rooms and focusing always on scouts while being able to just keep moving forward is the key it seems
austere bronze
i'd say the key is to just optimise your fog repeller use
cosmic crest
yea that is also a problem some times we just stand around questioning who is the next one to throw a fog repeller
and one more question
shrewd dirge
the person to last throw repellers continues to throw then announces when empty
this strategy also allows you to pick up repellers when depleted
austere bronze
furthermore, lower use repellers should be used first
cosmic crest
well that is a good way to think about using the fog repellers
and in terms of A2 P.E. how do you not let the guys from the non stop alarm to wake up the scouts
shrewd dirge
move fast, shoot scout asap
cosmic crest
the thing is, how are you that fast
cause as soon it is open they seem to just scream
austere bronze
70% of the time, you can't
just prepare for 2 scouts to scream
and snipe one if you have the opportunity
shrewd dirge
time the error alarm before opening the door
austere bronze
i dont think timing works that well imo
its 2/15 sec
so they will spawn pretty much as soon as the door opening anim finishes
cosmic crest
ok so just stay in the room where the scout was after you clear it and just hold position until the waves (from the scout) are done ?
shrewd dirge
try to take up a defensive position if you intend to shoot.
try to do so as a group
austere bronze
yeah
shrewd dirge
a good defensive position is communicated to the party members and is a position in which you cant be flanked
austere bronze
personally i prefer everyone just going off on their own and just hammering
this of course, depends on the group's confidence
shrewd dirge
same, but a lot of people arent on their hammer game til later.
to beginners even hammering the trickle proves troublesome
cosmic crest
we have one person who isn't used to the hammer yet (our biotracker) so kinda don't want them dead in a non stop alarm
austere bronze
what you can do, is clear the room, and then hold the scout wave at the bulkhead door/regular door
with sentry or something
austere bronze
well, one thing you can do is listen out
for where the scout wave spawns
and prepare accordingly
cosmic crest
so you recommend taking your time and hold out each room/scout wave
that's something we still need to be careful it is hard to have a nice tempo where it ain't too fast nor too slow
shrewd dirge
its not preferable but its an option
austere bronze
well, what i recommend is try to take out the scouts as soon as you can
after the bulkhead opens
then prepare accordingly if any scouts set off
cosmic crest
the problem it ain't just the bulkhead door, if it was yea that room ain't that bad, the problem is they break the doors for the next room where there normally is more scouts
shrewd dirge
usually what ill do is get the party to retreat to a mine-able door then clear off the reduced wave.
but fwiw, shoot the scout before it becomes a problem
迷えば 敗れる, そう言ったでやろう
cosmic crest
I wish we could. We, most of the time, aren't able to even see it and some striker just screams and alerts it, it seems.
shrewd dirge
the bio needs to either pay more attention to call out waking enemies, or get better at looking for them
austere bronze
if you hear a door getting broken down, one option is to run away as fast as possible
this lessens the chance that the error alarm enemies scream
cosmic crest
ok run away and treat the problem before it scales. like it seemed doable it was our 3rd run and we were 3/4 done but a chain of scouts just ruined it
shrewd dirge
A2 PE in description is a simple mission.
The problem is it requires speedy stealth which makes it harder than A3 PE, even when shorter.
cosmic crest
So is A2 P.E. considered a easy one or ? (compared to other P.E.)
shrewd dirge
the 2nd easiest PE, but likely the shortest PE.
austere bronze
honestly the error alarm on a2 is really badly designed for an A level tbh
at least make it 4/30 sec
instead of 2/15
or change the overload room layout to prevent forward spawns
cosmic crest
I wish I knew what those number meant :b
shrewd dirge
the lack of wavecall sound is annoying.
enemies/spawn interval
austere bronze
2 enemies spawn every 15 seconds
which just makes it inevitable
that they spawn ahead
and there's nothing you can do about it
shrewd dirge
if there's only one person in a zone, the chance the wave spawns there is reduced when there are 3 outside the zone as well.
cosmic crest
4/30 seems like it would give you a lot more breathing room
austere bronze
yeah i remember it was captain alpha talking about just sending one guy in
and having the other three just heck off
shrewd dirge
problem is that one person needs the requisite experience to speed stealth. Meaning that person is probably carrying the party in some sense.
cosmic crest
but is sending 1 guy an actual strategy? would they spawn almost every time on the 3 man group ?
if so that doesn't seem that bad
austere bronze
well, i imagine it would be 3/4 odds
shrewd dirge
yes, i do it frequently. Its still tricky and less preferable.
cosmic crest
we might try that then, should be interesting at the very least 😄
shrewd dirge
but if the other members are bad at stealth, its basically your only option.
it just means you need to manage killing sleepers and a scout at the same time depending on how far he is.
cosmic crest
if need be a sniper shot to the dome of the scout and cleaning the room by kiting seems a LOT better than non-stop scout screams
shrewd dirge
burst cannon to the chest is also an idiot proof tactic of killing a scout, unless you basically totally miss.
but a word of advice
track the scout before opening the door to give you time to visualize where he is
cosmic crest
sure will !
shrewd dirge
even though the loss of the extra tool will be felt.
if you can hear the footsteps he's close enough.
to that extent the bio is kinda moot.
cosmic crest
tbh we were running a c foam 2 sentries(burst and auto) and bio tracker so won't change much
prob gonna change the c foam for a mine deployer tho
shrewd dirge
might want to sub out burst for sniper.
if you sub out foam, try to find one c-foam nade for the HSU.
dont waste it in high.
cosmic crest
I have tried the sniper but it just seems it doesn't kill enough, it is a lot more ammo efficient but the fire power comes in handy for us
the HSU we still don't know much about it we just know we need to search for it so will make sure to search for a cfoam nade or mine
austere bronze
you should query the location of the hsu as soon as you enter the first extreme bulkhead
so you don't have to do it while the error alarm is blaring
for no particular reason
of course
cosmic crest
sure 😄
topaz anvil
Queries are fun
cosmic crest
any way, these advises should be enough to be able to get through it (and a bit more practice both on A2 P.E. and C3)
I appreciate it a lot ! thank you
wispy olive
should i hit chargers on the chest or the limbs if i cant hit the back
vital sierra
if you encounter an alerted giant charger
try dodge the tongue attack
and then tell the entire team to charge up the hammer when it charge in to melee
1 person will charge in 1 v 1 with it and hit the head, you will hit the charger head first 100% of the time
and then other 3 can go in and hammer it on the back
weary mesa
shove him 
vital sierra
worst case scenario, you have to do it the second time but you need to hit it limb ( arms for guarantee hit )
rough junco
hey guys
do you know when will GTFO gonna have sales discount?
i kinda looking forward to buy two for my friends
random locust
rough junco
what is R5 , tbh im just a beginner here who just got got c1 yesterday
flat rock
R5 is just a shortcase for the fifth rundown
aka the next one to come out
Generally like Roket said they do a 20% off after a rundown is released. They have also done a few holiday related sales in the past.
steel valley
hopefully not :(
tacit zealot
What is the speculated date for R5? Next couple months?
vital sierra
april
ionic nexus
inner basalt
then I'll say April 23rd 😄
hoary sable
Is there any way to change my name in game?
craggy pier
Change your steam name
keen solar
1st April
sick ginkgo
So I just started the game literally bought it today, any tips?
vital sierra
don't die
frozen nymph
Hammer is The Way 
shrewd dirge
become well aquainted with learning the stealth mechanics and how to hammer everything
open pecan
^^^^
Ammo is limited, so you should hammer as much as you can
atomic robin
"ammo is limited" D1: am i a joke to you?
spark wolf
look at the floor
plain spire
look at the floor
E1 has taught me this particular playstyle 😂
leaden musk
Do the prisoners you play as have names? Or are they just all different people every time?
leaden musk
Neat, thanks
covert oracle
Dauda 😩
spark wolf
mines
fallow wing
Yeah,,,, but we don’t really see where they are that usefull
spark wolf
extreme and the last alarm
flat rock
They can be useful literally anywhere you're using a door
craggy pier
Double bio, mines, and foam
flat rock
Sentries are actually huge if you actually use them for a good purpose. The first C6 you can break back door and use a sniper sentry and have someone hold with guns. You'll never have anything leak and the alarm gets done ezpz
wary linden
Double foam for less search for those tool refill so you can be faster overall
flat rock
Imo just do a "one of each" load out where you bring bio/mine/foam/sentry; works like a charm for every group I've done it with
wary linden
The sentry can be replace by whatever you want really. The other 3 are pretty much a must
fallow wing
Auto or sniper? That’s what I’m not sure
lusty bramble
best of burning all your tool away
lusty bramble
auto doesn't burn tool 😡
I know there's a few people who like to argue that people sleep on the burst sentry
but people also argued for the hel rifle
fallow wing
Thanks Peace
craggy pier
People sleep on the double bio strat : ^ (
craggy pier
Confidential info
fallow wing
Haha
craggy pier
THat stuff's way out of my pay grade
flat rock
Sniper imo
flat rock
People sleep on the double bio strat : ^ (
I've used it and it's nice for people who aren't proficient with bio to manage to do the comms solo
Or was my experience with it at least, two felt overkill when I tried it the few times I did
fallow wing
I’m the bio guys, guess I’ll have to do both
flat rock
It gets the job done though
It's not too hard as bio tbh, especially if you're used to running it and have done it often enough already.
It just gets a bit hectic towards the end
lusty bramble
2 bios garuntees biotracker bug 😞
craggy pier
What's the issue?
lusty bramble
tags left on screen
craggy pier
I know
flat rock
That's guaranteed with one lol
craggy pier
But what's the issue
fallow wing
That is what I hate, I ping 4 in range and only 3 shows
craggy pier
Ping radius if you will
fallow wing
They need to work on bio a bit more. Sometine I ping with nothing on scanner and 10 appears and sometine with 10 on scanner and 6 appears
flat rock
It's working as intended actually from what I understand.
Just because something is on the display doesn't mean it gets pinged. The actual pingable region of the screen isn't the whole screen, and it extends past the visible part of the screen.
fallow wing
Intended to be inconsistent
flat rock
But it isn't inconsistent
craggy pier
It is consistent
fallow wing
So I don’t know my bio like I should
flat rock
I mean it isn't mentioned exactly, so I can understand it being misleading what will be marked
And what won't
fallow wing
Can’t believe I’m still working on D2 PE.....C3PE took us so long
Bio, 2xsniper, 1xauto gave us the victory
flat rock
Lotta sentry huh
lusty bramble
Rundown 1 and 2 meta 😩
fallow wing
Ya but we did it 😆
pure marsh
I got a question about error alarms, like in b2 overload: is it intended that sleepers can spawn in rooms you didnt open yet? and activate scouts? that seems like a quite unfair game mechanic. we cant beat b2 overload because of the lots of scouts being alarmed by the sleepers breaking the doors.
sudden burrow
Spawn mechanics are briefly summarized by "two rooms away" - there's a bit more to it than that, but that's the gist of it
They can spawn in front, yes, so you want to move quickly to try to mitigate that as much as possible
pure marsh
thats quite frustrating, if they alert scouts in rooms you arent even close
sudden burrow
It's really a matter of knowing where scouts can spawn and moving to either eliminate that possibility, or eliminate them
Bio is pretty damn valuable for that reason
Not necessary, but it can help
pure marsh
Okay, sounds reasonable
sudden burrow
With B2 in particular, you've got enough of a gap between wave spawns (45 seconds, if I recall?) that you can generally push into a location where the next spawn won't screw you up
Zone 88 can be a bit tricky though, especially with scout spawns
pure marsh
yes, we were the first time in a new zone in overload and werent moving as fast as before, but there were 3 scouts in front of us alerted
sudden burrow
Oh god yeah 292? That usually has a few, you've gotta either be careful or be prepared to deal with scout waves lmao
pure marsh
yep, with the class vi alarm
sudden burrow
I rarely manage to get through that zone without any scouts going off
Scout waves aren't all that bad if you're prepared, but I can understand that y'all are probably stressed at that point, it's a doozy of a mission
pure marsh
we were running out of ammo at that point and were low on health because of using the 20 %
sudden burrow
Ammo preservation is key, gotta use melee as much as you can
But that can make managing health tricky if you're not good at it, which is another problem entirely
pure marsh
yeah, we are only shooting at alarm waves
sudden burrow
Having a BC to quickly deal with scouts and bigs that get alerted for the mission as a whole is definitely a boon, though my group managed with a sniper instead lol
pure marsh
haha nice, we got a BC and a CM for that
it is the last token we are missing for e1 😦
sudden burrow
Watching my run back now, I actually did have a CM and shot a scout in 292 pfffff
pure marsh
yeah works fine
distant ice
The first overload zone is all one room
Defenders outside the bulkhead can buy you basically infinite time
pure marsh
yes, thats not the problem. The problem starts with the following zones like 292
distant ice
Did that have that many scouts 🤔
pure marsh
295 is the following in the middle, right? are you saying that we need to open the door with motion sensor?
distant ice
He's saying that that's the one you don't want to go to
Not sure who decided that zone was a sane idea
pure marsh
ah, okay
spark wolf
zone to the left is 3 scouts with many bigs
pure marsh
but dont you need to go in 295 to get all the osips?
spark wolf
middle zone has hybrids and 1 scout, gives a passage to 295
sudden burrow
My clear opened both the class 6 and the class 4 + motion, it's doable
distant ice
You don't
spark wolf
zone to the right has tons of smalls and has no lighting
sudden burrow
You don't need all the osips, just 6 of them
pure marsh
yes and 2 are on the left and 5 in the both middle doors
sudden burrow
If you get a seed that requires 295 just restart lol
distant ice
Wesley subbing in for ray kekw
pure marsh
so i guess you have to go to 295
distant ice
I won't remember layouts ever
pure marsh
lol 😄
sudden burrow
In my PE clear, we only opened 292 and 293, so 295 is not required
Didn't even need 294 that run
pure marsh
okay
sudden burrow
Yeah there's no error alarm on C2 lmao
pure marsh
b2 is quite fun, but sometimes really frustrating
pure marsh
didnt see no shadows yet, hah pun intended
sudden burrow
:)
pure marsh
but, what is in zone 295 exactely? you got me interested 😄
sudden burrow
I've only ever seen one, but apparently two mothers lmao
pure marsh
hahahahahahah wtf
sudden burrow
(I've only seen one because it killed us lmao)
pure marsh
sounds fun
sudden burrow
There were all the tumors on the walls, we shoulda read the environment better
But we took it slow and the wave spawned in front
pure marsh
f
sudden burrow
C2ov isn't bad, it's just stressful
Do keep in mind that it'll require you to progress partway through extreme
pure marsh
okay, ty for the tips
dawn egret
extreme > overload cmm
weary mesa
ah yes the "we kite" obj
frozen nymph
Ah yes the c2 optional obj
austere bronze
the "we hold down the scan even if the scan rng decides to be cruel and move forward into the horde" obj
tawdry stream
Hey, Does Iix Syringe 1 shot mother?
wary linden
No. Too much tumors to hit in the eight seconds you get...
That syringe only triple your damage too. You'd only break one tumor
rough junco
im having problem with gtfo
pearl badger
? what problem
trouble killing stuff?
surviving?
@rough junco if you dont say the problem, we cant help
tropic crow
what's the best way to deal with the awake mother in b3 overload without a c-foam grenade? my group probably has really bad luck, we haven't been able to find c-foam grenades at all
also, if we do find one, should we camp in one of the side rooms and then chuck the grenade? does mother go into those rooms?
hard wasp
break LOS until you can charge her with choke mod / burst cannon
tropic crow
hmm I'm not sure exactly what you mean
when we open the blood door we usually run into one of the rooms so the enemies can run into our mines, so we end up there with mother running about in the main hall
craggy pier
Run to the bridge instead
hard wasp
yeah then just charge at her with high dps weapons
craggy pier
There's that one mirror where you can see her through the wall coming into that room
THat's where you can hold and wait for her
tropic crow
lol i didn't know that
if we were to charge at her do you recommend freezing her with the c-foam launcher or is it too late for that, since most likely mother will be giving birth
craggy pier
You wouldn't need to foam her if you burst her down quickly
tropic crow
but you'd focus on the babies first, normally?
since the mother doesn't directly attack
craggy pier
Yeah but it takes a few to birth them first
The babies wouldn't be a big problem when you kill her mid birth
tropic crow
I see
tropic crow
how much damage does it need, I usually team up and get 2-3 burst cannon shots on her but I don't know how much my team outputs
looks like 6 in the video?
I'll try it a bit more, thanks for the tips
hard wasp
it takes like 3
soft kiln
lol
violet steeple
hey y'all, i have a question, do certain enemies have longer/shorter tongues?
soft kiln
yes
craggy pier
Chargers have longer tongue ranges compared to basic strikers
Same goes for the giant variants
violet steeple
ah okay that explains why i suck with chargers, cheers 👍
daring fog
will there be a way to matchmake everything except a1?
craggy pier
Sounds like a skill issue
covert oracle
skill moment
frozen nymph
big brain time
rain python
It’s a meme since it’s April fools
rain python
But yes when it’s not April fools and you see it it’s the time to next rundown
hybrid pine
how did i miss that
topaz anvil
Are we sure its not counting decades and not months 👀
neon gust
Are we sure its not counting centuries and not decades
distant ice
Are we sure it's not counting lightyears and not centuries
lusty bramble
are we sure this game is being developed?
rain python
are you sure we’re not in a simulation?
craggy pier
Are we sure we have free will?
lusty bramble
are we sure?
neon gust
are
soft kiln
iron vine
Are resource room traps?
I had a A3 PE run where the veteran was telling me how his runs came to an end when the resource room was open trying to do overload. I suppose closer spawns and kiting is harder when it is open so that makes sense.
Then today, I did a B1 high run and one person was very adamant about not opening the resource room. The run came to an end because we ran out of fog repellers and cfoam, rip.
neon gust
"kite"
your 4 people
you hold smartly
there is no reason to kite in A3 unless you solo
B1 theres a fog turbine
youve probably miss it
iron vine
the veteran kited most of the enemies on the overload alarm so that was helpful.
we did find the fog turbine
neon gust
"veteran"
then how did you ran out of fog repellers
you have an infinite turbine wut
iron vine
there was only one box of fog repelers in the b1 run. we used it on the 1st alarm door and gone
neon gust
Make sure to check for natural spawns in the level
vital sierra
there is a fog turbine in B1
neon gust
they can spawn on top of the metal boxes and racks
iron vine
"veteran"
veteran as in the guy was clearly in a rush, cleared the scouts by himself and circle kited the whole error alarm for overload. like damn
neon gust
"veteran"
iron vine
the guy claimed he did a3 25 times
neon gust
but did you finish or not that A3, you said it came to an end
iron vine
we finished the a3. the b1 came to an end
neon gust
for A3, you have to set up smartly for the error alarm
you deal with like 6 enemies at a time
really easy to pick up with shotguns
iron vine
I came to ask for opinions on the resource rooms in general. thanks for the gameplay tips
neon gust
for B1 just save resources at the beggining and find the extra cell for resource room
theres a disinfection station and lots of resources
resources rooms are good
never a bad thing
every idiot can run in circles
iron vine
I am aware from P scalers video. too bad we left the last cell at spawn. 😦 Person with the bio really didn't want to go in there
neon gust
I mean if you needed the resources why no go back to get the cell?
A 2 min walk to get cell will save you 20 min of a run
iron vine
I would have however that person was "set" on not opening it for some reason
vital sierra
force gameplay
iron vine
essentially.
vital sierra
i did that in R2E1 because it was so long to do resources room
vital sierra
a normal R2E1 clear are about 2 - 3 hours base on how players play
i was like, skip the resources room because it'll add like 30 minutes - 1 hour to the game
but R4B1, it'll be about 2 minutes
iron vine
sure, that's reasonable. If players are skilled enough and want to save time. The b1 high i did was in beginners tho. so I was very confused
vital sierra
the veteran want to be veteran
distant ice
Veteran is not the word I'd choose for that person
neon gust
Next time if you need it tho, resources room on b1 its like getting home when you been at work for 14 hours
vital sierra
"veteran"
neon gust
even if you save a lot of resources, having excess of it its better than not having it
iron vine
The teammate in B1 did mention they played since the Alpha. idk what else to call it
neon gust
ah yes
distant ice
I mean yeah veteran but that guy's just an ahole
iron vine
🤷♂️
neon gust
if it starts with ive played since X rundown or ive beat X level
then prepare for trouble or make it double
craggy pier
I've played since R1 guys, I know what I'm doing
neon gust
my favorite is "Im a R1 veteran"
craggy pier
Hasn't played R2,3 and is just starting out in R4
Show, don't tell
Resource room in A3 is just an extra spawn point for the error
Its not even bad
Smh
craggy pier
Not like I kited the class 4 in overload lmao
craggy pier
how do i matchmake
You don't, use the LFG channels instead : ^ )
iron vine
FYI I tried D Tier matchmaking today. Took me 12 minutes to get a team for D1.
Then they all left after we triggered the scout bridge.
craggy pier
Epic feedback moment
flat rock
Damn that shit sucks that you had to deal with people who flaunted the veteran status about to get what they wanted. Hopefully your future attempts go through more smoothly 
@iron vine
Resource rooms are worthwhile to go into most all of the time. There are a couple exceptions to that, but these exceptions are generally up to the team to decide whether or not it is worthwhile. Like it was mentioned previously there is a fog turbine which can be found for B1 that provides infinite repulsion of fog, but in a limited area.
weary mesa
I want another resource room like R3C1 fucked as can be but has the resources well worth if you pull it off
weary mesa
to bad now the rooms are so big that you can just kite them if you trigger
amber osprey
Speaking of resource zones : Is there even a point to go to zone 52 in B1? There's never been anything really worth the hassle there
weary mesa
I mean if you are on main
there's almost no point in not going to it
Maybe a scout if the way
neon gust
Did you use a lot of resources
If yes go in there, if no dont go in there
weary mesa
but that's fucked for new people in the fog
neon gust
Man entering r3c1 loot room was funny as hell
neon gust
heartbeats
waxen flame
When will you be able to play GTFO on PS4 PS5
austere bronze
When will you be able to play GTFO on PS4 PS5
#faq question 5
rough junco
is rundown 5 gonna be out after 127 hrs?
vital heart
maybe or April fools happened
flat rock
is rundown 5 gonna be out after 127 hrs?
It's not hours, it's days.. aka 35 years or some shit as someone calculated
It was an April Fools joke
distant ice
hasn't the timer changed now?
weary mesa
ye
plain birch
IT broke now
rain python
Overload years remaining
fallow wing
Do you have to be absolutely behind and throw C-Foam nade in Tumour to C-Foam the tank?
or you can throw 2-3x C-foam anywhere on him to freeze it?
craggy pier
Anywhere
fallow wing
Always there Dumbass...😉 Ya but 1 nade in is face wont freeze him?
I want the magic number
craggy pier
At least two, if all the blobs hit that is
hardy plinth
whats the strat with finding and killing shadow enemies? I've never been able to find them and I feel like they're just kind of hard to deal with for the sake of being bullshit rather than just being something complex or normally tough.
vital sierra
FEET
sudden burrow
Basically flashlight their feet, yeah
You wanna wander slowly with it angled down at the ground
Gotta keep your eyes peeled real hard and be ready to stop moving at a moments' notice
sudden burrow
Some people don't like kiting
sudden burrow
If you don't have your light on, you're gonna have a real hard time finding 'em without a bio lmao
hardy plinth
yeah
pearl badger
I mean, you literally can run in 1 direction, they will never catch up until you meet a dead end
thats not kiting
thats just them being slow
🤷♂️
hardy plinth
:/
they feel uninspired, and to run away to make the gameplay even drier is to take the flavor out of a popeyes biscuit
now youre just eating dust and being bored
sudden burrow
As far as actual advice to finding and killing them in stealth, I think I about covered it
hardy plinth
yeah
sudden burrow
tl;dr FEET, as those before me said
hardy plinth
do the feet glow or smth? or they show up easiest in flashlight
sudden burrow
Shadows in general show up better in light
hardy plinth
yeah
sudden burrow
You can just usually shine feet without actually making them glow
pearl badger
nan, its just they dont react to the light if its only the feet
hardy plinth
ah
sudden burrow
...."""glow"""
hardy plinth
never knew that
pearl badger
Glow - give out steady light without flame.
it cant be a light if its not lighting up
until its a black light 🤔
but then, its not a light since it doesnt help us see
sudden burrow
I wasn't being serious lmao
blissful iron
How much time is left on the timer?
twin hill
Yes
wooden osprey
How much time is left on the timer?
the morse codes in the timer massage are numbers here you go: 20-21-4-0-22
blissful iron
Thank you
rose tangle
lol
flat rock
R5 coming out in 2077
frozen nymph
definitely not 2021-04-22
hard wasp
definitely
twin hill
Yes
blissful iron
Can I have a serious answer then?
atomic forge
there isnt a date yet officially
rose tangle
^
vital sierra
100 new enemies will be added in R5
you can't kite
you can't shoot
you can't hammer
just pain
shadow mica
as it should be
twin hill
Sounds like a dream
lilac fulcrum
sounds amazing
vital sierra
when you drop in, all you can do it's looked down
soft kiln
look down gameplay 10/10
shadow mica
R5 will be just spitters and no objectives
shadow mica
devs gonna keep hitting the reroll button until every room has at least 300 spitters
soft kiln
the game right now does not support this function but maybe you can ask around in GTFO modding community (rule12)
rose tangle
mhm, join that server and they def can help
also new and unique content if you are inclined
daring hornet
upper lotus
Possible, yes.
pearl badger
it is posible in A levels easily, it start becoming hard to duo in Bs
dawn egret
Yeah, depending on your skill level, it is generally unlikely that you will be able to run most levels duo
Or, you might be able to - but there's a decent chance you won't be the kind of person to find what you have to do fun
@daring hornet
Personally, I would host a lobby, invite your friend, and then post the link in discord to open it up to other people
This community has lots of fun people to play with, and you can usually add people you like (and ignore people you dislike, after playing with them) - so in a few days/weeks, you should have plenty of fun people to invite to play with you and your friend!
molten jackal
what does it mean when a weapon or tool is rundown specific?
upper lotus
means it may not be in the next rundown
molten jackal
ah ok, thanks
molten jackal
means it may not be in the next rundown
wait so different guns come with diiferent rundowns?
upper lotus
Yes
We get a handful of things that never change, and every rundown we get some new toys to play with
Or old favorites
molten jackal
thats cool
upper lotus
maybe someday
covert apex
Would a sniper as a secondary work out in E1 while going for the codes?
craggy pier
@atomic robin
atomic robin
@covert apex yes it can, but since there's a blood door, it's best that the mine deployer goes, but with a sniper, you could easily take out the hybrids that come from it and deal with whatever else with your primary, or hammer
you can also efficiently take out any big enemies like this
atomic robin
there are multiple shadow scouts iirc, but yeah, you can hammer a few and just shoot the last one
covert apex
awesome thanks! i'll try it out.
atomic robin
best of luck, just remember, stay away from the four mothers
covert apex
fully charged hammer in the head
vital sierra
sniper is kinda... too much for any of it
covert apex
you can never have enough
covert apex
there's plenty of ammo to carry with you
atomic robin
i mean, just don't go near the mothers lol
vital sierra
sniper right now are only good to kill pmother
vital sierra
the damage of the sniper this rundown are too much to use on any enemy except pmother
that's because it is
vital sierra
one hit any enemy if you hit headshot
atomic robin
^
covert apex
i never miss my shots
vital sierra
but still
covert apex
that's why i think it's a perfect fit for me
atomic robin
2 mag, 8 reserve, total of 10 bullets
atomic robin
have you used the sniper at all?
vital sierra
yes?
vital sierra
you can't even 1 shot giant charger
atomic robin
what do you mean alpha? you don't use too much ammo
covert apex
i'm bringing the sniper with me solely to kill the hybrids and scouts
atomic robin
you can't one shot giant charger, but you can one shot literally every other non boss enemy
atomic robin
it's not a waste at all tho
vital sierra
right now
the sniper damage is too much
making it the lowest damage dealing weapon due to
ammo
covert apex
i think it's been balanced pretty well
vital sierra
even the choke mod shotgun is better than the sniper
covert apex
playing sniper requires decent aim
atomic robin
if you're looking at it from an ammo efficiency perspective, BC would take two bursts to kill any bigs if all shots hit, taking what? like 12%? sniper can do it in one shot, faster, only using 10%
vital sierra
you can basically use other gun with decent aim
and it's even better than the sniper
that's the thing
vital sierra
if you're looking at it from an ammo efficiency perspective, BC would take two b...
1 burst at the back
or you can just
hammer once
covert apex
i think you're just referring to personal preference
atomic robin
one burst in the back, but if it's sleeping the team just stealth kills it
covert apex
1 burst at the back
how would you position yourself in their back if you open a blood door?
atomic robin
making both the BC and sniper useless
vital sierra
how would you position yourself in their back if you open a blood door?
how would a sniper deal with the blood door?
covert apex
one shot the hybrids and clean out the rest
vital sierra
great plan
covert apex
let's your teammate lose more ammo
wha-
atomic robin
lol, this conversation is amusing
covert apex
i'm trying to make sense of what he's saying
atomic robin
also i asked Kan the question alpha, sorry for the confusion lol
he's making valid points, that's what he's typing
covert apex
valid points?
vital sierra
you will only have.... 10 bullets on that thing
atomic robin
but he's making these points, to me it seems like, purely on stat's from paper, and less combat experience with the sniper
spark wolf
sounds like a very bad idea to bring a sniper
covert apex
why so?
spark wolf
because you have no horde clearing at all for smalls
while those rooms are packed with smalls
they're not just bigs
atomic robin
that's why the mine deployer goes forward usually
covert apex
what if you take care of the smaller ones first?
spark wolf
do you realise how much faster you'll be able to take care of smalls if you bring a good special weapon
atomic robin
a lot lol
spark wolf
do you realise how much less waves that will make your team have to fight
vital sierra
wesley at the back most of the time so he could explain more than me
covert apex
has it ever been tested out?
atomic robin
what tested again?
spark wolf
i've woken 20+ sleepers multiple times in the back zones
vital sierra
bringing sniper to E1 Extreme
covert apex
bringing a sniper with you to grab the codes
spark wolf
i just back up a little and shoot entire bursts of the burst cannon into them
atomic robin
i mean, alpha, i did E1 ext with sniper
spark wolf
burst cannon efficient at clearling all sorts of enemies
covert apex
i just back up a little and shoot entire bursts of the burst cannon into them
Was BC cancel used?
spark wolf
"entire bursts"
vital sierra
i mean, alpha, i did E1 ext with sniper
yes, with other people shooting as well
covert apex
xd
spark wolf
because the burst cannon is good at that
compared to the sniper
killing one small enemy per shot
E1 extreme sniper for defending against the waves
maybe
covert apex
i feel like the carbine could also be really useful in tight situations like those
vital sierra
what's your primary btw kaneki
spark wolf
but going for codes doesn't sound like a good idea
vital sierra
if you're bringing the sniper
atomic robin
Alpha sounds like your cherry picking a bit, you include other weapons when talking about the sniper, but not when talking about the BC
vital sierra
at least be the one depend
vital sierra
Alpha sounds like your cherry picking a bit, you include other weapons when talk...
i need to know what kind of primary he used
so when he combine it with the sniper
covert apex
carbine + sniper
vital sierra
it made at least decent combo
covert apex
doesn't sound too bad
atomic robin
not at that, when i said i did the level with sniper, you said "with other people shooting"
spark wolf
also if there's more than 2 bigs doesn't the burst cannon become more efficient than the sniper again
because of your shitty reload
vital sierra
if he has, let's say pistol, combine with sniper, he'll be downed at that point
atomic robin
just double tap them?
covert apex
also if there's more than 2 bigs doesn't the burst cannon become more efficient ...
return to lobby
spark wolf
covert apex
if he has, let's say pistol, combine with sniper, he'll be downed at that point
who in their right mind would bring a pistol with them
vital sierra
like i said
spark wolf
nearly all of those zones can have 4 big enemies in a room
atomic robin
i mean, it's that the logical thing to do Wes?
atomic robin
two double taps then
covert apex
nearly all of those zones can have 4 big enemies in a room
maybe sneaking past them grabbing all the codes
and going in with a full squad
to take care of them
atomic robin
with BC you'd still need to reload
spark wolf
but you can high damage all 4 of them
and finish with a tiny bit of primary
what are you gonna do with your sniper lmao
atomic robin
"waste" less ammo with only 4 sniper shots
covert apex
let the 3 burst cannons take care of them
spark wolf
@covert apex if you're assuming that everything will be stealth in the stealth zones, don't bring any weapons 
covert apex
and stagger with my primary
atomic robin
that's a horrible assumption to make LOL
spark wolf
exactly
so be ready to fight packed rooms while going for codes
and therefor maybe don't sniper
covert apex
stealthing 1 zone doesn't hurt anyone
atomic robin
either way, i do admit that I'm a sniper main, and as such i can be biased towards this conversation
spark wolf
i "try" to stealth everything except charger zone first room
covert apex
either way, i do admit that I'm a sniper main, and as such i can be biased towar...
same :x
spark wolf
that doesn't mean nothing will go wrong
atomic robin
either because of favouritism or because of my experiences with it
oh no, shit will go amazingly wrong lol
honestly, you don't stealth charger zone, you wake it up, shoot, then go in
covert apex
what if 2 burst cannons go in to clear the room
while the sniper and another burst stay defending
until the room has been cleared
spark wolf
then that means your sniper isn't the one going for codes
atomic robin
i mean, you can play around with strats all you want
spark wolf
?
covert apex
then that means your sniper isn't the one going for codes
no don't get me wrong, i'll still go for all the codes
but i'm just getting support from my squad 😎
spark wolf
that sounds backwards
they clear the room and then you swap and get the code
why the fuck wouldn't they just get the code then
covert apex
why the fuck wouldn't they just get the code then
change of plans they go to grab 1 code >:((
and i go for the rest
covert apex
could still be a fun experiment
spark wolf
covert apex
i just feel like the sniper isn't being appreciated enough
spark wolf
if your team is counting on you, don't let them down. If you feel like the sniper is your best bet at doing that, go for it
atomic robin
it's not appreciated enough because it hasn't been balanced right
making other guns better than it
covert apex
#JusticeForTheSniper
atomic robin
no, better balancing
increase ammo to at least 3/9 max, body damage to 80 and then it'll be good
keep precision multi to one hit bigs, without it, it'll be garbage
that's the right way to balance the gun
vital sierra
^
rundown 3 sniper are a little balance
having more ammo in 1 clip help a lot
and now we have 2 per clip and when it ran out, you'll rely on the primary
atomic robin
rundown 3 sniper was good, I'd say best sniper
vital sierra
with the R3 sniper, you can combo with hel revolver and 2 or 4 shots giant
atomic robin
r4 sniper was trash, r4ext sniper is second to R3 sniper
vital sierra
Sniper - head , Hel revolver - 2 - 4 tap body shot, Giant die
vital sierra
IF
atomic robin
Lmao
vital sierra
i underestimate R4 sniper because, every single secondary in this rundown are better
even the MG
amber osprey
Yeah, the gun isn't bad in itself, it's just that alternatives are usually better
atomic robin
but yeah, if we want a good balance for sniper, the best would be 80 damage, 3/9 ammo, with the percision multi staying, that would put the sniper in the golden zone
vital sierra
but
amber osprey
Also, I found that sometimes some bullets just go to the wind for no reason :(
atomic robin
i hope so lol
R4ext sniper seems bad on paper, but it's great
it can one shot enemies, the BC takes time to charge up, then the kick back can make bullets miss, and it doesn't kill bigs instantly
if we were to rank both the sniper and BC both in wave killing and big killing, from F to S, I'd put sniper at S for big killing, at F for wave clearing, BC at B for big killing, A for wave killing
that's just my opinion
amber osprey
The problem is that BC is just too absurdly powerful to use the more specialised tool
vital sierra
BC in this rundown are too rounded
atomic robin
yes, yes it is
BC is too general, making it great at the two things that matter for guns
because of this versatility, it's better than other guns, ON PAPER
amber osprey
I mean just the fact it has higer base damage that the Sniper is eh
atomic robin
and in practice as well if the person using it is capable
amber osprey
Also, Sniper has too few rounds compared to BC to make it viable compared to BC
vital sierra
your accuracy must be at 80 - 90% most of the time
atomic robin
but that applies to all guns, if the person using it is good with it, it's deadly, if they're bad, the guns worthless
amber osprey
Isn't DMR basically a very very high skillcheck to be useful?
vital sierra
other gun you can lose at worst up to 10%
vital sierra
Isn't DMR basically a very very high skillcheck to be useful?
you can 1 shot head shot striker
and you can 1 tap them with auto pistol
vital sierra
basically make striker 0.01 hp or something like that
atomic robin
basically
craggy pier
Yes, exactly 0.01 health
atomic robin
Lmao
craggy pier
So any gun at max fall off will kill it
amber osprey
I mean yeah the DMR isn't bad, it's just that for new players DMR is a very hard skill check, to use effectively
atomic robin
most weapons are spray weapons, the dmr isn't
spray weapons tend to be easier to use
spark wolf
any kind of precision weapon is often still shit to use because enemies don't behave in ways that would make sense
atomic robin
that's also true ^
idk, I've been using the sniper for a lot of my time
almost every single run
I'd like to think I've became good enough to hit a moving target with 95% accuracy
atomic robin
there are shots i miss yeah, but that's either at the start or end of my play sessions
hey I've missed 4 shots in a row before lol
it's frustrating, but just means that i can still get better at using it
spark wolf
yeh
just if you miss because some random crawler pushed the dude you were aiming for
it doesn't really feel like your fault anymore
atomic robin
I'd say that the sniper, as alpha said it, is underestimated
oh no, if it was PUSHED it's not your fault, that's crappy game design
vital sierra
what is NOT crappy game design tho?
spark wolf
sniper requires an expedition with a lot of big enemies
but it's current 2 mag fights that at the same time
i'd still like to see the sniper be somewhat ok at clearing smalls by for example giving it piercing just on small enemies
atomic robin
it would make sense with its damage, and that it's supposed to be a big bullet
but i don't think it needs wave clearing efficiency
i think my balancing idea would put it in a great place tbh
covert apex
sniper requires an expedition with a lot of big enemies
B1 😎
spark wolf
nooooo, the rundown must have a B tier with many giants forcing the players to stealth