gtfo-related-questions

[frosty tinsel]

dont bring them in circle right

[atomic robin]

yes

[frosty tinsel]

ok

we did that

so now

we do the perma alarm

bring the shit back

and gg

[sudden burrow]

If you just wanna do overload, ye

[frosty tinsel]

hold up

do i have to do

High-overload-extreme?

because the last key is in 241

[sudden burrow]

That's exactly it, yep

I still don't think I've ever done extreme outside of PE lmao

[frosty tinsel]

wait isnt this basiaclly pe/

?

WELL

we died

[neon gust]

it is

the order doesnt alter

you can do overload extreme and high if you want more action

[frosty tinsel]

hell no

that sounds rly difficult

[sudden burrow]

There's no reason to do it, but you can

[distant gate]

how do i fire a single shot with the burst cannon trick?

[weary mesa]

you shove to cancel or use the toggle equipment button

I wouldn't try for too long tho, BC has a high chance of getting removed next rundown because of that or just because it was in R3 as well.

[distant gate]

how do i shove while holding a burst cannon?

[weary mesa]

press q

[distant gate]

Q doesnt do anything for mne

[weary mesa]

oh i think the default is c

iirc

[distant gate]

its Y lol i got it, it worked, thanks for the help!

C as well

[weary mesa]

oh shove is c I think

[distant gate]

you were right

[weary mesa]

Equipment is y

I rebind my keys so sorry

[main lynx]

hey where can i find people to play with me and my buddy just got this and its kinds hard with 2 people who dont know much

[shrewd dirge]

#how-to-matchmake

[tame quiver]

I know that when you activate an alarm it spawns in waves of enemies, but if you left enemies sleeping in a room do those get woken up as well?

Just wondering if its viable to use the lockmelters to skip on rooms, but if they'll end up getting woken up on the next alarm anyways then there's no point

[austere bronze]

it depends on whether or not the enemies scream, or are woken by other things

for example

||if you do the blood door on c2 first, then do the alarm, usually the rooms in z14 stay asleep, even though the enemies from the alarm spawn in there||

[shrewd dirge]

yes, it is viable to skip rooms with lockmelters, but it is up to discretion into which rooms to stealth.
often it is to nab resources or objective items, or move through zones quietly on doors which have smash locks.
a good rule of thumb is, if you cant manage the room waking up and dont have to go back to it, its a possible application of melters.

[tame quiver]

Ah, so if the sleeping enemies are in say z12 and the waves spawn in z13 then the z12 guys won't wake up?

[steel valley]

to be safe you can clear rooms that are two rooms away from the alarm

any further shouldn't alert from the waves

[tame quiver]

Now the question is, is that a viable strategy or just a noob trap? I'm guessing I'm not the first to think of this

[steel valley]

it depends

[shrewd dirge]

theres no guarantee that the enemies will spawn in z13A and wont path through z13c

[tame quiver]

Yeah, but as Mit says, as long as you clear the rooms around the alarm door you should be good

[steel valley]

some levels have extract alarms that force you to sprint through the level back to spawn

if you don't full clear before an extract alarm it can get really messy

so you might want at least a clear path to run through

[tame quiver]

Got it, so not a fool proof plan, still better off full clearing just to be able to loot in peace

[shrewd dirge]

you can of course tweak your chances by keeping certain doors open.
but if things go wrong it can be catastrophic.
do a good job of clearing around alarms.

there are occasions where an alarm is not your problem, but which you still need stealth

keep in mind the two traits of melters are:
quick
silent.

sometimes you need both, or either, or you are lazy.

[tame quiver]

Yeah I just used them cuz I was lazy, since I thought alarms just woke up every enemy from the alarm door and back I assumed they were kinda useless

Thank you for your wisdom mighty elders

[shrewd dirge]

enemies are only alerted by gunfire, enemy screams, or player actions.

alarms are not in that list.

[tame quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/word-oh-thats-why-realization-wow-gif-10000098

[amber osprey]

Hey question about the error alarm, how to time the waves and to know when do they spawn (Audio Cue?)? we've tried to clear A2 PE but we got stomped by 3 scout waves rushing us due to forward spawns

[austere bronze]

Error waves in A2 spawn every 30 seconds. When the bulkhead door is opened the forward rooms become valid spawns. You will know they have spawned in front if you can hear the "roar" sound effect. You will also be able to hear them banging on the doors.

Not too much you can do about it unfortunately

[ruby wasp]

Not 30

15

[austere bronze]

Usually just try to kill the first scout and let the rest set off

it's definitely 30...

[ruby wasp]

15 for A2, 30 for the other levels

[austere bronze]

bruh

this is news to me

[amber osprey]

The scout didn't spawn in the first room

So i guess we can chalk that down to bad luck

[austere bronze]

one strategy you can take is if you hear them spawn ahead

just run out the bulkhead door

and hope they don't scream/set off the scout

[ruby wasp]

Or shoot at the scouts if they each are in a different room

you'll trigger the room, but at least you won't get a bonus wave

[austere bronze]

it's pretty much inevitable one scout will get triggered

[amber osprey]

I see, we did set up turret defenses behind the bulkhead

but getting Waves from back and front is hard to def

[ruby wasp]

Killing scouts while triggering the rooms really make overload easier

instead of seeing them triggered cuz hehe funnee spawn

[amber osprey]

So basically clear the rooms loudly

by shooting the scout, back out, kill the guys, come back and kill the others?

[ruby wasp]

If they both are in the same room, you can ask someone to kill one with melee & another guy shoots at the other scout

[amber osprey]

We run two snipers for that exact Scenario

[ruby wasp]

choke mod & burst cannon can do the job too

[amber osprey]

Choke mod can be a tad unreliable I found

[toxic birch]

I would say just take 1 sniper for the scouts, since you can shoot them anywhere

[amber osprey]

Sniper shot work in the body?

[ruby wasp]

yes

Scout doesn't have enough HP to stand a sniper shot

whatever the spot is

[toxic birch]

They can 1 shot giants to the head, so it would be weird if they wouldn't

[amber osprey]

I see, thanks

[toxic birch]

And for a choke point to clear out the rooms, you can try using the trench area right before the overload bulkhead door, to funnel them through 1 way instead of needing to defend 2 sides

[amber osprey]

We Basically put Burst and Auto Sentry behind the door and choke them there

[steel valley]

sniper only kills to the back or head

not frontal bodyshots

[vital sierra]

a lot of people underestimate the power of the sniper sentry

[toxic birch]

huh, that's interesting

[steel valley]

it has very high precision damage but low bodyshot damage

it can one shot a giant to the head but takes 5* shots to bodyshot

[toxic birch]

if you shoot the scout to the front of the body it has barely any health left. Even 2 pistol rounds are enough to kill it afterwards 😩

[topaz anvil]

Just leave the scout alone 😩

[arctic tinsel]

#scoutlivesmattter

[spark wolf]

you could also not bring 2 snipers

and then probably be able to deal with the waves

[neon gust]

Thats r3

[humble egret]

Is there a best in weapons? Or is it just preference?

[vital sierra]

not Hel Revolver

[craggy pier]

Hel revo, on paper, is the most overtuned gun rn

[humble egret]

So it’s the best

[craggy pier]

on paper

[steel valley]

in practice as well

:)

[craggy pier]

Fr tho

[neon gust]

If you wanna turn your brain off

use hel revo

dont even have to aim properly

[covert oracle]

the Arizona ranger

[neon gust]

the arizona ranger actually aimed

[vital sierra]

you will need that

[neon gust]

because his gun didnt penetrate 5 enemies

like a hel rifle

[vital sierra]

the last person said it was a shit gun, didn't hit a single shot

[craggy pier]

Sounds like me

[strange skiff]

Hell revo bad is becoming a meme

I like it

[covert oracle]

Dmr bio 😩

[inner basalt]

Is there any way to play the old rundowns? 🙂

Have joined GTFO in December 2020 and have been loving it so far, would be awesome if the old rundowns are playable still

[distant ice]

nope

[neon gust]

Old rundowns be like

hey yo what happens if i drop fps in the middle of the alarm

[weary mesa]

R4E1 ||second s1|| 👀

[topaz anvil]

R4E1*

[exotic ember]

you called ?

[open pecan]

What makes the pistol good? I know it's a headshot weapon (and I can't aim well) but even when I do land headshots, it doesn't seem to do much damage

I don't plan to ever main the pistol or anything but it's good to know

Is it a short-range weapon for killing small groups of enemies?

[vital sierra]

it's a short range weapon

[open pecan]

What should it be used for?

[vital sierra]

<10 meter range

[open pecan]

Killing, obviously, but

What situations

[vital sierra]

it's a basic weapon

[open pecan]

Gets the job done, I suppose

[vital sierra]

it's like SMG

but single fire and less ammo

it's not a kill or even stagger weapon

so between pistol and smg

pistol deal damage

smg deal damage but full auto

pistol 1 shot deal normal damage

smg need to hit 4 shots to deal normal damage

[open pecan]

Ah I see

[vital sierra]

basically

Middle area

not a kill weapon nor stagger weapon

it's a weapon and that's it

[open pecan]

Works for me

[craggy pier]

Its an all rounder weapon

[dawn egret]

If you can handle semi auto fire, its decent

3 hit headshot on any basic enemy

Gives you the power to kill 5 per clip

(With very good aim and a bit of luck)

[steel valley]

i want to love the pistol but the range is atrocious

[dawn egret]

The pistol is a kiting gun.

Spin around, kill 5 enemies, then run & reload

If you want range, take the DMR

Its basically the same killing ammo potential, but 1-2 shot headshot

[austere bronze]

if you want the best primary, take the hel revolver

[dawn egret]

Hel is good med range

But carbine has more reliable killing power

10 kills per clip

[austere bronze]

the carbine does not oneburst

there's no way you're getting 10 kills/clip with the carbine

[dawn egret]

Most enemies i hit with 4 headshots die...

[austere bronze]

tops 4

[steel valley]

its a 2burst

if you're very accurate

[dawn egret]

U sure? I've got more out of it than that...

[austere bronze]

enemies were probably already tagged or something

[steel valley]

^

[austere bronze]

dont think its possible to oneburst with carbine

since their heads exxplode

[steel valley]

100% it doesn't one burst to front of head

[austere bronze]

so you cant even get 4 consecutive headshots

[dawn egret]

Well u have to aim down

Like toward neck...

Ill have to hop in a1 and test it tomorrow

[austere bronze]

you need 5 headshots to kill a striker with a carbine

or 13 bodyshots

its going to be 3-burst most times, or 2 if you are extremely precise

[dawn egret]

I've rarely needed more than 2

As a kiting weapon

Doesn't the carbine do 12-16 damage a burst?

[austere bronze]

it does like 13 per burst i think

[weary mesa]

Not burst canceling the carbine

[austere bronze]

i do it when i need to shoot a cfoam tripmine lol

[frozen nymph]

i know for a fact that in #how-to-matchmake LFG means Looking For Game and LF2 is Looking For 2, but what does, for example, LF2M, mean? Looking For 2 Males? Mature? Someone pls tell me 🤪

Matchmaking?

[distant ice]

members

🤔

[frozen nymph]

Sounds right

[flat rock]

I always had the thought that LF2M was looking for two more, hadn't actually ever heard the members until recentlyt

[distant ice]

From MMOs i played it was always party and party member

[atomic robin]

i always thought it was looking for 2 man

[ivory gate]

Is R4 C1 and R3 C1 the same?

Or totally different?

[austere bronze]

totally different...

[ivory gate]

Okay, thank you, hahah

[random locust]

R3C1 and R1C1 however...

[distant ice]

reactor and a normal/fog/charger level 🤔

[shrewd dirge]

is that the one with sleepers?

[spark wolf]

[random locust]

Ah shit I mean RAA1 and R3C1

[distant ice]

Well that's intended to be similar tho

[covert apex]

is d0gr3d's status a countdown to the new rundown?

[lilac fulcrum]

It's literally a countdown to when my dog arrives. Hence a dog as the icon, a dogs name. saying the dog is in germany, saying it'll be arriving in stockholm.

[atomic robin]

no, but it's funnier to say yes

[lilac fulcrum]

Anything official is in #game-announcements . if said anywhere else, especially my name or custom status is not related to the game

[craggy pier]

R5 isn't real

[atomic robin]

R5: shadow mother screams

[lilac fulcrum]

A custom status is not inherently related to the game as I'm in many other servers, and this is also my personal account sharing something personal

[covert apex]

oooh, i see, thanks! :))

[ruby wasp]

Will the dawg give us the R5 trailer tho

[lilac fulcrum]

no because my dog arriving has nothing to do with the game

[dreamy sapphire]

😦

[ruby wasp]

too bad 😩

[drifting orbit]

No jokes plz

[craggy pier]

No anime pfps too

[lucid stone]

Why is the difficulty so hard?

Me and my friends barely did the mission😆

we were enjoying though but its hard

losing ammos fast at the same time

[wooden osprey]

its called an hardcore game you kill or be killed :/

[lucid stone]

oh ok. There's no changing of the difficulty?

[wooden osprey]

nope

[lucid stone]

sheeeeeeeeesh

[wooden osprey]

it can only get harder the best way to deal with it is get gud

[lucid stone]

yeah since im new to it

thx for the reply

[neon gust]

Try to learn the mechanics of the game once you know the basics

you will fly trough some of the levels

[lucid stone]

oh ok thanks

Can you pls tell me all the monsters are? What they do? Special Abilites?

I need to know so i can understand on how to play the game mroe

coz me and my friends was running and gunning the game last night🤣

[river trellis]

Check video on youtube, some people take time to explain all of this. By exemple : professor scaler

[neon gust]

Use hammer

games about resource managament and conservation

[lucid stone]

I dont want to run and gun

ok

[neon gust]

hammer its infinite, so you need to understand the stealth mechanics

[lucid stone]

@neon gust

[neon gust]

i dont wanna spoil every single enemy, but the strikers, striker variants uses theyre tongues and well the shooters shoots at you

we have minibosses but thats spoily

I dont wanna ruin the magic of encountering the new enemies

[lucid stone]

oh ok its ok

I understand

[sudden burrow]

Lots of fun in discovering new stuff yeah, though admittedly how fun that is varies per person

Game’s not easy, so it’s a lot of learning at first

[lucid stone]

ok bro thanks

[open pecan]

I know that you can one-tap strikers and shooters by hitting them in the back of the head, but they're not dying reliably. Is there a more specific region I need to hit?

[sudden burrow]

It's less that you've gotta hit the back of the head, and more that you've gotta hit the head from behind, if that makes sense?

[open pecan]

I think I understand, yeah

[shrewd dirge]

need to be solidly behind them, the ones with their head on the ground are hard to hit, i full charge kill them first.

[sudden burrow]

Yeeeaah

I think the game checks your position, rather than whether you hit the back of the model

[open pecan]

OOHHHH I see now

I've been hitting them on the back of the head while standing at their side

I technically hit them in the occiput but the game didn't think so

[velvet otter]

1 charge attack with hammer is enough to kill most of the small variants of enemies, as for scouts aim it to the head .Back its a bit like gambling with them from my exp

[shrewd dirge]

can definitely get the occ shot with consistency on sleepers.

[sudden burrow]

The one-tap is really only useful for getting multiple kills quickly, in normal stealth should just go for charge hits yeah

[waxen estuary]

How to win video games

[frozen nymph]

git gud, just kidding though. You can watch videos by Professor Scaler on Youtube, he pretty much explains most of how GTFO works but some things may be outdated since it's information based on a previous Rundown. Alternatively, you can learn from experienced players in #lfg-beginners . Learn how to ask in #how-to-matchmake .

[vital sierra]

just play the game

[ruby wasp]

And don't try to get PL'd

best way to not know how to play

[frozen nymph]

PL?

[ruby wasp]

power level

aka hard carry

[frozen nymph]

right

agreed then, getting carried isn't the way to learn

[knotty vine]

Can somebody tell me when is R5 coming around? Or do we have any info about it?

[neon gust]

soon

[knotty vine]

yea i know that

but how soon?

[neon gust]

soon

I mean

probably april

probably late march

or when they feel like

[amber osprey]

Question : How do waves spawn for reactors?
Do they spawn until cap like alarms with new waves appearing once you clear enough ?, or will they spawn until cap at definite times?

[shrewd dirge]

iirc, yes the waves will back up and queue to spawn.

[amber osprey]

At times or depending on enemies killed?

Sorry english second language there x)

[shrewd dirge]

depending on enemies killed

i dont know how many are required to spawn the next wave, but they will spawn certainly before the current one is dead completely

[amber osprey]

So if we make them run around the hall until the last 10 seconds it could work?

[shrewd dirge]

no

[wary linden]

Not for a special reactor no.

[shrewd dirge]

unless you feel like kiting them all for the whole round mission

[wary linden]

Imagine E1 kiting infectious fog

[amber osprey]

Yeah, I imagine it wouldn't be this easy, it's just that we get overwhelmed at the second wave and we don't quite know what to do better, we were tight on timing already to put the code

[flat rock]

Just shoot E1 reactor waves. You get so much ammo you really don't need to worry about it. Hammer kiting is boring af too and can easily get you behind on clearing out enemies.

[amber osprey]

We're at D1, not E1 though

And yeah Hammer kiting is out of the question, it's that even with Three turrets we run into problems clearing them fast enough

[flat rock]

What turret comp are you using

Cause triple sniper sentry makes waves basically non-existent

[amber osprey]

Burst Burst Auto

I think

[flat rock]

see that's the problem

burst isn't great for D1

[amber osprey]

Aren't sniper turrets really low on ammunition though?

[weary mesa]

And D1 actually has hard enemies so you have shoot the waves mostly

[flat rock]

too tool consumptive for not enough KP

[flat rock]

42 for 100% iirc, but it doesn't matter cause it's basically one bullet to a kill

[weary mesa]

Burst sentry 👀

[flat rock]

Sniper sentry super slept on

4 second lock on for the first shot yes, but 2 seconds afterwards and it's one bullet to kill

[weary mesa]

yea it's a "bit" cracked

[flat rock]

It melts waves

[weary mesa]

that sentry would become a team killer

lmao

[flat rock]

It can one shot bigs/hybrids if it hits back of head as well

idk about front, never taken the time to test

[amber osprey]

Welp, thanks for the tip, we can clear priority target as we want, but it's the wave we struggle on for some reason
We'll try running the three sniper turrets

[neon gust]

three

4 or go home

[flat rock]

I ran a triple sniper sentry/bio loadout with three new people to the level yesterday and we finished extreme first attempt.

[ruby wasp]

Get 4 sniper sentries, ez win

[flat rock]

It's pretty damn good

[ruby wasp]

I don't even understand why people use anything but sniper sentries on D1 anymore considering how stupidly strong they are in this level

[flat rock]

"cause sniper sentry doggy doo doo"

[ruby wasp]

Sniper sentry be like "hehe ded"

[weary mesa]

It's just a longer range slightly slower firerate shotgun sentry

I guess not slightly

its a fair bit slower

[ruby wasp]

ye but no shotgun sentry here sadly 😔

[weary mesa]

good

[neon gust]

shotgun sentry was ass

in the sense of been to popular for no reason even after the fix

[lusty bramble]

If I was back in r2 and my options were the burst sentry or a pre nerfed shotgun sentry

I would choose the shotgun sentry

There was definitely a reason why it was popular

[neon gust]

burst sentry its better at all ranges

fight me

[lusty bramble]

It's better at using all my tool

[neon gust]

its better at killing

[lusty bramble]

What's it going to kill with

Its flashlight?

[neon gust]

just mind your sentry placement

burst sentry good

[lusty bramble]

Just mind your sentry placement

[neon gust]

It was always good

[lusty bramble]

Every other sentry better

[neon gust]

burst sentry its better than a sniper on medium size rooms

[lusty bramble]

Says you

[neon gust]

if you have a big spectacle of bridges like d1 then yeah sniper sentry its awesome

or A3

[lusty bramble]

Just mind your sentry placement blackdrsgon

[pliant herald]

Oh boy.. Was there a question here or was it always meant to be an argument? 🤔

[lusty bramble]

And the sniper sentry is better

[neon gust]

mind ya booty

[lusty bramble]

[wooden osprey]

don't worry it always goes that way

for the most part that is

[lusty bramble]

Does every conversation with the slightest bit of discussion have to be considered an argument

[pliant herald]

I'm just wondering if the question has been answered or if it's just straying off topic.

[neon gust]

We are on topic

wut

[lusty bramble]

People are discussing a question in the gtfo related questions channel

Must be going off topic

[neon gust]

Is autopistol good?

[lusty bramble]

Yeah, when used right

Some people just bring it to not use it at all 😢

Or, you know

Dmr biotracker main gets the girl

Autopistol cfoam main gets the guy

😳

[neon gust]

machinegun autosentry gets the sugar daddy

[lusty bramble]

Hel revolver burst cannon main gets reported 😡

Pistol mapper main gets disappointed 😩

[frosty tinsel]

question are there easy ways to do scans

can u have one guy just run around and hold enemies?

[weary mesa]

don't™️

Circle kiting makes the game boring and makes you worse

You won't get experience with fighting hard alarms

[frosty tinsel]

our goal is to just beat e1

we are currently

8 high lvls

1 extreme lvl

and we gotta gte to d

we just want easy ways

to GET there

then i can play proper

Becauase i already have 100 hours on this game with only 9 lvls done

its just getting boring for my friends just going into stages

and dying over and over again

[weary mesa]

that is the game

[frosty tinsel]

yes ik

but

[weary mesa]

You die and learn and get better

[frosty tinsel]

we never finish games

ever

i want to njust beat e1

we dont get better

we die to just scans

we cant beat these stages lately

like we were doing a2 overload

basically imposssible for us

ik we are vbad

but its just bad

[steel valley]

if you can't beat levels before e1 you won't be able to beat e1 either

[flat rock]

Pretty much.

[steel valley]

e1 has countermeasures to prevent circle kite cheesing anyways, if you try it there you'll just die

[flat rock]

Circle kiting teaches nothing to the player about how to actually play the game. Take time learning how to set up, communicate, and deal with alarms rather than just cheesing them. Part of a hard game is the harsh reality that you will not finish everything sometimes, and that failures happen.

Taking the easy route to get to the end does not teach anything, and will absolutely make you more frustrated in the end when you keep slamming your face into the same objective hundreds off times with no actual results of progress to note.

[shrewd dirge]

if you jump right into E with the minimum requirements you will meet a brick wall.

[weary mesa]

Its another reason why the sector clears should be done differently

[flat rock]

The layer/sector stuff is a first implementation. I would be surprised to see that they didn't change anything about how they did it based off community feedback. However, who knows if they'll take the time to re-work the way they implemented them this coming rundown.

[vital sierra]

i think right now, just keep the circle kite

[weary mesa]

yea might take another rundown to work it out fully

I got faith

[vital sierra]

don't need to focus on it

[weary mesa]

It is a player choice thing

[flat rock]

It's still a mechanic they need to address, even if it is player choice

[vital sierra]

i think, they should focus on other thing first

[flat rock]

It completely breaks level design and intensity to simply run about in a circle while you do fuck nothing but make yourself dizzy

[vital sierra]

when player use circle kite, it make the game easier and boring

[frosty tinsel]

we are fked

anmother

500 hours

we might get to d2

[steel valley]

d2 high is basically a longer b level

so its not that bad if you don't do ext/overload

[vital sierra]

i wanna see devs give us back the R1 MG

since the head bug is fixed

[covert oracle]

i want my bullpup back

[hybrid jasper]

do enemies attempt to pathfind around explosive tripmines?

okay

so there must be something else going on with A3. i've never had them bang on the lower door outside of the High bulkhead

[vital sierra]

they spawn near the stair

at the start when you go in

so they path to the smaller door

and also, the smaller door is less resistant then the big door

so they will choose small door more than the big door

the only thing make them banging on that big door is force to get there

which the last High alarm did

the last High alarm door that lead to extraction spawn enemy AT the big door

so they have no choice but to break that door

[hybrid jasper]

i meant for the Class 3 to open the bulkhead

[vital sierra]

the class 3 spawn a little further away as i said

[hybrid jasper]

they usually go for the smaller one, but since i started running mines, they've only gone for the larger one

this has never happened in all my attempts until now

[vital sierra]

where did you stand

they can path find to other location due to location player are standing

which you will see a lot in C3

[hybrid jasper]

I stood next to the bulkhead door because that’s where the scan was

[vital sierra]

ok

[undone steppe]

How do I report hackers?

[neon gust]

match making or lfg discord?

[undone steppe]

matchmaking

[craggy pier]

Lmao

Figured

[soft kiln]

mm is the sweet place for hackers

[neon gust]

yeah you cant do shit about it

matchmaking atleast you cant

[undone steppe]

oh F I wish there was a report section or at least a channel

[soft kiln]

I met one this morning in A3 (speed hack)
down to 20% hp before doing the first alarm

[undone steppe]

This guy mined the whole map, everywhere is red

every step he takes he places one mine, was wondering why it took him 20min to catch up to us

yuck

Got a troll name not to get caught mhm

[neon gust]

yeah no way to report cheaters and trolls in matchmaking

lfg's are a safer bet when it comes to that

[vital sierra]

MM was a mistake

[craggy pier]

^ Facts

[vital sierra]

the only thing MM prove is that

if you bitch hard enough on steam forum

you'll get it faster

[dusty trout]

Hello guys , can i ask how fast can we solo kill Daddy with a Burst Cannon?

[neon gust]

Imagine if they bitch more about weapon cutomization

how fast we would have that

[vital sierra]

WHERE WEAPON CUSTOMIZATION

[neon gust]

usue sniper sentry

[vital sierra]

you can't

[neon gust]

burst canon solo kekw

[craggy pier]

we

[neon gust]

sniper sentry or mine cheese

[craggy pier]

solo

[dusty trout]

so , just Burst Cannon i can't right?

[neon gust]

is it a group or solo?

[dusty trout]

bcuz i try to kill in E1 lol 🙂

[vital sierra]

you can't solo

[dusty trout]

just me

[neon gust]

solo E1 kek

[vital sierra]

unless you use sniper sentry

[neon gust]

^

[dusty trout]

ah ha

i will try

thx bro

[vital sierra]

it's not worth it

solo e1

[neon gust]

you seen that duo of E1, 5 hours, duouble that for solo

see you in 10 hours my friend

[vital sierra]

24 hours stream let's go

you have to play the game non-stop for 24 hours

1 mistake you waste the entire day

[neon gust]

Yeah wheres is it ludvig

[dusty trout]

it

[neon gust]

i just want a sight for revo

[dusty trout]

hard

damn lol

[neon gust]

it waste of time

[dusty trout]

yep u right

[vital sierra]

i think we did it wrong

we have to post it on steam forum

not here

[neon gust]

ah yes

i forgot

ok im making one right now

done

see you in r6 boyzz

[open pecan]

Is C3 really that bad? I've played it (haven't beaten it yet) and it feels a lot harder than the other two C levels. Is there gonna be a point like B1 where I'll suddenly think "oh this is actually really easy wow"

A moment where it suddenly clicks

[neon gust]

Everything in this game its bad at first

then its better

then its smooth

[ruby wasp]

It'll be noticeable on any level

E1 included

[amber osprey]

It depends mostly on what level of the tier you did first

B1 was traumatic, but once we were done with it B2 and B3 went easily down

[distant ice]

But both revos do have sights

[amber osprey]

C2 is the pushover unless RNG says too bad

[open pecan]

I go in numerical order

I have access to the D tier but I'm not letting myself try them until I finish the C tier

On high

[ruby wasp]

C3 overload makes the whole thing way harder

while extreme makes it way easier

[open pecan]

Yeah I'm going for extreme

[neon gust]

C3 its gonna put you in good shape for E1

[craggy pier]

Try D2, best level

[open pecan]

I wonder if C3 is worse than the D levels

I wouldn't know

[steel valley]

yep

[open pecan]

That's what this implies anyway

[neon gust]

c3 its a good level

[steel valley]

d2 high feels like b2 high but 4x longer

d1 is a pushover with the sniper sentry

though d2 has some interesting layers on it

[vital sierra]

mit

they are streaming

[ruby wasp]

D1 is a meme thanks to sniper sentries and D2 is all about knowing the map & pinging sleepers (when no kiting) 😳

[craggy pier]

Shh

Don't fucking utter that word here

[ruby wasp]

😔

[neon gust]

Just do a big brain my friend and go trought c3 one by one, do high only, then high+extreme, then do PE

dont rush it

[ruby wasp]

do overload only 😳

[craggy pier]

They're gonna come in from a different channel just to continue their discussion about running

[neon gust]

trust me r5 its not even near close ||even tho they should release the damn thing already!!||

[wooden osprey]

nonono do overload---> extreme-----> high

[ruby wasp]

based

[lilac fulcrum]

it's getting closer every day

[ruby wasp]

well ofc

[neon gust]

turtle speed

i wouldnt mind if you guys drop an extension extension

A4

xdxdxdx

r5 doesnt exist

[ruby wasp]

F1

[neon gust]

GTFO 2

[ruby wasp]

R5 is the friends we made along the way

At this point yandere sim will be finished

[neon gust]

l4d 3

oh

[lilac fulcrum]

This isn't real?

[ruby wasp]

GUYS LOOK

[wooden osprey]

its not

[neon gust]

press click on the connect button realquick

[amber osprey]

Hahahahaha Doc you shouldn't have done that, now they're going to bother you even more

[ruby wasp]

inb4 "r5 pls"

[neon gust]

you can see the 005 slightly off center

[wooden osprey]

every screen like that has a name on top not a word you LIER!

[neon gust]

witch implies its fake

[wooden osprey]

GET'EM

[neon gust]

nice photoshop skill docred

[spark wolf]

For the solo tank discussion before, you

[neon gust]

nice try

[spark wolf]

can get him on screams

if there's no tool

but it's gonna be a pretty slow way of killing him

not helpful for E1

[wooden osprey]

i dont think doc was expecting us to say its fake this fast XD

[spark wolf]

you can however get him down to like half health instantly

if you combine the scream with door opening

and just unload

[craggy pier]

Fake

[neon gust]

Rundown 005 poopyhead

[craggy pier]

We all know that R5 is just a ruse

Even the updates in the roadmap is

[wooden osprey]

.t roadmap

[uneven gulch]

You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap

[craggy pier]

If R5 was real D0c would post it in media and fan art and ping us

[wooden osprey]

or ludvig leaks :/

[lilac fulcrum]

Would you guys like a sign?

[wooden osprey]

we would love a real leak if you mean that

[neon gust]

Fake as hell

[wooden osprey]

haza we are going back up BOYS!

Time to Kill the Warden

[spark wolf]

interesting how 3 of those have extreme doc

and 8 high

[lilac fulcrum]

it's alllll a1

[steel valley]

0 overload and pe

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[neon gust]

No door pick

not a real leak

[austere bronze]

A1 PE but it's D3 PE but it's Rundown 5 but it's Rundown 2

[lilac fulcrum]

fiiiiiine have your dang sec_door_292

[neon gust]

ok

thats what im talking about

r5 confirmed boyz

[austere bronze]

#D0gD3v-leaks

[lilac fulcrum]

I'll even give you another door.

[neon gust]

I coom

double blessed

[austere bronze]

sea coomcumber

[rain python]

Give the dragon door 224 ;)

[craggy pier]

Smh

Imagine not having your DMR out

[wooden osprey]

smh imagine not haveing the mallet out

[neon gust]

Lets make a bet gentlemen

lets guess what that door its going to be

teams scan or alarm

or open security door

i say team scan

[steel valley]

probably a key zone

therefore no alarm

[wooden osprey]

its a keycard door

:/

[craggy pier]

An open door

Imagine

[wooden osprey]

yep

[steel valley]

it doesn't connect to any zones

[random tendon]

I call for cell needed door

[wooden osprey]

keycard and open

[craggy pier]

Tileset that has 0 doors

[steel valley]

level with no teamscans

please

:)

[placid loom]

Here is a honest question to the devs, are bulkhead doors still going to be a thing?

[neon gust]

1 open door, 1 team scan, cell neded door, no team scan ok ok

[craggy pier]

R2C2+

Absolutely

[wooden osprey]

its going to be a thing in the game from here on

[neon gust]

well of course theyre gonna be a thing, they will be refine and be better with the amount of feedback they had recieve from the community

[placid loom]

So all levels will have bulkhead doors now?

[steel valley]

i would be very surprised if they're removed

[spark wolf]

bulkhead doors but they don't take 15s to open

[placid loom]

I honestly didn't mind long objective levels

[neon gust]

Just speed up the animation!!

[ruby wasp]

long objectives can just die

[craggy pier]

Long expeditions are the friends you lost along the way

[random tendon]

bulkhead doors with either alarms or just open, no team scans plzzzz

[placid loom]

What was the partial decoder level r1c1?

[craggy pier]

R1C2

[neon gust]

Mit(teamscan)
reyjones(keycard no scan open door)
largest (open door with cell)
me( teamscan)

[craggy pier]

Imagine

[steel valley]

by no alarm i meant teamscan

[craggy pier]

Surge alarms but they come from 3 different directions

[steel valley]

you can see the handle is closed

so there is a scan

[ruby wasp]

S1 alarm but it's 4 S1 cluster scans 😳

[craggy pier]

4 small S1 but they take the same time to complete as the 1 class S1

[ruby wasp]

epic

[spark wolf]

surge alarm but it caps at 50 babies

[ruby wasp]

no caps

[placid loom]

Sleeping babies when

[steel valley]

s1 surge but it's only babies

[placid loom]

Imagine a level like in dead space one basically a room full of baby Hsu ripped open that all turned

[neon gust]

Imagine releasing a trailer for r5 in 2 weeks :pepehands:

[craggy pier]

Imagine

[neon gust]

im

[craggy pier]

R5 trailer at R6 release

[open pecan]

I see a lot of people here talking about not kiting/kiting less/devs getting mad about kiting, I don't know how much of that is a meme and how much is genuine

[neon gust]

oh oh

[rain python]

Can we get a Michael bay type trailer

[craggy pier]

Kiting is kind of fun, in quick bursts that is

[rain python]

With those loud BLARRRRRHHHHH and jump cuts?

Make is super tense

[distant ice]

Loud blarh

[frozen nymph]

And the explosions? Yes

[neon gust]

even the explosion explodes

[rain python]

At the end the team wipes to a mine and instead of the death screen it goes to the GTFO screen witb the music

[frozen nymph]

Mines: BOOM

[neon gust]

kite bad

[frozen nymph]

Needs some blood splatter

Lots of them

[wooden osprey]

kiteing is bad yes

[thorny current]

Well, there are people who hate kiting and then those myself included, who think it is too strong and needs a nerf. The devs as far as I know are are not too happy about its strength either

[wooden osprey]

as the game is not ment to be played like that

but we kinda not have a lot of choice in the matter

as some levels are going to be nightmare without kiteing

and some may be impossible to pull off

[distant ice]

Unbind sprint, beat the whole rundown and then talk about removing it

Kekw

[austere bronze]

probably one of my pet peeve is circle kite when its unnecessary

like you can hold the scan fine

[distant ice]

Emphasis on remove

[open pecan]

Dauda: Monsters are swarming the door!
Woods: In ENGLISH, four-eyes!
Dauda: They're fuckin our pussys!!!!
Woods: (cocks shotgun) Now you're speaking my language

BWAAAAAA

[neon gust]

You can beat every single level in this rundown without kite

they dont balance stuff around kiting

[steel valley]

only level that ever required kiting imo was r2e1

[open pecan]

I'd like to say that kiting is kinda necessary for solo but

The game isn't meant for solo

[neon gust]

the only level in wich actively have to kite, its probably C2 surges

[steel valley]

any other level kiting is for convenience

[austere bronze]

you can hold the c2 surges

[neon gust]

even then you can bring auto sentries

[austere bronze]

unless you get unlucky

[wooden osprey]

any surge alarm

[steel valley]

c2 surges with bad rng can be rough yeah

[distant ice]

R4c2 surges?

[steel valley]

sometimes they literally go into the doorframe

yeah

[thorny current]

Sure some form of mobility needs to exist for error alarm type situations, but it kinda becomes ridiculous with the usage of it

[distant ice]

Held all as 3 🤔

[steel valley]

it's on the scan rng

[austere bronze]

the bad thing is when the scans go forward

into the wave

[steel valley]

there are some so easy that you can 2man them without a sentry

[austere bronze]

and you are surrounded

[open pecan]

How would you balance out kiting anyway? Limited sprint feels wrong

[steel valley]

some are brutal to hold with all 4 and a sentry

[neon gust]

bring 2 sentries

easy claps

[open pecan]

Though maybe it only feels wrong because I'm not used to it

[austere bronze]

bio mine auto auto ez clap

[wooden osprey]

i mean unless they make everything hit scan or upgrade the enemys AI there is not a lot

[thorny current]

With the use of certain enemies and the use of environment I guess. But it is something the devs have to find out

[open pecan]

The woes of being a game dev

[steel valley]

s1s are a pretty good counter

but you can't really shove them in all alarms

[wooden osprey]

fr fr

[neon gust]

thye just need an enemy that can shut you down

thats literally it

[wooden osprey]

i suggested one of those enemys dragon ppl did not seem happy

[neon gust]

were finally done with enemy variations

[wooden osprey]

not even you

[neon gust]

depends if your suggestion was good to begging with

they alrady spoke about the enemies they have in store in a lot of the interviews and documentaries

[wooden osprey]

i suggeted an enemy that comes in some alarms by random and it uses a rope feeler kind of thing to grab you and that sort of stuff

[neon gust]

my question is: where are they??

[wooden osprey]

i made a whole bio for the dam thing

like how its made

[open pecan]

On the topic of game devs, I wonder how long it'll take for some YouTuber to make a GTFO "rant" while personally threatening ludvig

[wooden osprey]

the attack moves

how to deal with it

i made everything for him but i got 40 disslikes and 21 upvotes

REEEEE

[neon gust]

we already had a critique.............it didnt end well

parasites poopy, i want my enemy that grabs me a runs away with me

[thorny current]

There were some things, which were justified in his critique, but many things werent.

[neon gust]

wolf said that, he better deliver

[craggy pier]

Sweep me off my feet and take me to where no one will find us sleeper-san

[open pecan]

Vacation + moving studios (see #dev-leaks) = long development time
That's my guess anyway

[neon gust]

More like, tencent acquisition, company expansion and hiring, and company volatility

[thorny current]

They do work on new mechanics. So It will take some time. Similar, when they created the fog mechanic

[open pecan]

Volatility?

[neon gust]

they went up and down in members troughtout the years

[open pecan]

Ohhh I see

Why'd they change styles anyway?

[craggy pier]

The trailer's artstyle had the aesthetic

[neon gust]

This one has it too, its just people dont slow down to take the atmopshere

let me bhop realquick

[craggy pier]

I would have loved janky animations

[open pecan]

What was wrong about the old style? Not that the new one's bad

[craggy pier]

An entire artstyle change of a near finished game in 1 year

Damn

[open pecan]

I wouldn't call it development hell but it certainly feels like it

[craggy pier]

Maybe its why it took a long time for alpha to release

[frozen nymph]

any tips for C3 PE?

[pulsar herald]

Dont hug the chargers.

Well... dont waste your ammo. Try to keep as much you can for High/Overload

[steel valley]

foam and mines can carry you through high and extreme with very minimal resource usage

so save the 4 use ammopacks, and move them into useful locations/hold them when you pull hsu

meds are also not really needed until you pull hsu

so save them, and you should easily be able to have max ammo/health on everyone before starting the hsu, at the cost of most of your tool

2bc and 2choke will allow you to easily handle the chargers, tank, scouts and big chargers

[soft kiln]

you can try to leave some extra supplies in high zones
so you can get them after overload

[open pecan]

Is there a reason the first level of each tier doesn't have an overload bulkhead?

[thorny current]

No, I guess not.

[shrewd dirge]

considering the x1s introduce new concepts, giving them a PE would probably put their tier difficulty too far

[open pecan]

Ahh you're right

[shrewd dirge]

and in the case of a B1 PE, it would probably smell too close to D1 extr.

a redundancy

if C1 had a PE it would be both too long, annoying, and smell too similar to E

realistically, D1 could have been a PE, but i cant imagine an objective that would make sense other than a reactor shutdown.

[soft kiln]

I feel like E1 had pe at one point somehow

[shrewd dirge]

it would be very interesting for a D1 PE, because if you had more reactor waves, the extreme bulkhead would now be open, meaning you'd probably have to find somewhere else to camp.

[ruby wasp]

wot

[flat rock]

Every level introduces new concepts for the most part. I highly doubt this was the reason.

They probably just didn't want every level to have a PE, so they didn't give them all one.

[distant ice]

before ext all left side only had extreme, all right side had overload too

[flat rock]

Tbf that's still the case, just more exaggerated

Middle and right all have Overload on top of Extreme

With the exception of E1 which is the only of its tier

[open pecan]

Do scouts wake up to gunfire?

[austere bronze]

yes

[open pecan]

Very good to know

And how much damage is a big striker lick?

[austere bronze]

24hp iirc?

[open pecan]

Hate those guys

[austere bronze]

just booli them

[sudden burrow]

Chain stagger op

[neon slate]

Full charge to arms & legs to stagger fun stuff

[coarse plover]

Having trouble starting up a lobby

We have one player that is just invisible (guns not showing in pre lobby)

So it wont let us ready up

We have all restarted game and steam

[open pecan]

That player's internet connection is being weird then, maybe #known-issues could help?

[coarse plover]

Oh thanks!!

[nova kite]

I too would like 4 machines guns

[distant ice]

been a while since i used the biotracker

was its idle noise always so fkn loud? no way, my ears are bleeding

[soft kiln]

prob not

[distant ice]

i'm not sure if something changed on my end or the game's

[nova kite]

The bios idle roar?

Yeah it's not THAT loud usually

[neon slate]

Biotracker makes a ticking noise when an enemy is within range, it ticks once per enemy I think

But it only ticks once it's a new enemy spotted on radar

[weary mesa]

with multiple enemies it can get pretty loud

[neon slate]

True be that

[distant ice]

Not talking about that sound

[nova kite]

The bio has 2 idle sounds, the ping when it detects something, and the idle roaring when it's doing nothing

@distant ice it's most likely just your game being fucky

[elfin sparrow]

how does tab work in the terminals? Will it only auto complete objective messages?

[craggy pier]

If the objective's command is one string, yes

Like in A2 owoload

[elfin sparrow]

ah ok

and it only works for objectives?

[vital sierra]

it can work for other

like if you type list

you can type LI and then tab

every command can be "tab-able"

[sudden burrow]

You might run into some troubles with certain commands, such as how R-tab only autofills to “REA” (on specifically reactor terminals, I think) because it could be read or one of the reactor commands

[vital sierra]

at least 2 word

[sudden burrow]

So if you wanna tab-fill, say, reactor_verify you gotta R-tab-C-tab-V-tab

Which is still easier than typing out the whole thing

But it’s a lot of tabbing lmao

[elfin sparrow]

I see - thanks guys!

Another question - is there any limit to the amount of waves a mother can spawn? if you just clear babies but don't damage her would she eventually consume all her tumors or is that not how it works?

[steel valley]

nope

she just keeps going

the tumors are unrelated to the baby waves

[elfin sparrow]

Makes sense

[vital sierra]

aCtUaLly

baby do have spawn cap

40 babies

when 40 babies are on the level

everything start to lagged out

enemy potatoing

[elfin sparrow]

lol I can imagine

It's possible for the mother to actually de-spawn if that happens right?

[steel valley]

if it gets to the point where there are 40 babies on the map you're probably fucked anyways

she doesn't despawn

she just runs around a lot

[elfin sparrow]

I'm pretty sure I saw it happen on Nuggies stream yesterday

[steel valley]

enemies never despawn

unless some sort of glitch occurs

[distant ice]

The roar you're talking about is an actual mechanic. Its frequency indicates the number of enemies detected by bio
There is another idle sound bio has, always had, it was just never this loud. I'll record after work

[vital sierra]

enemy will despawn when they can't move

basically stuck in places and can't move

[steel valley]

hence some sort of glitch

[vital sierra]

after the they despawn

they will respawn

so it's still up to point?

[steel valley]

though i've had some ceiling boys just hang out there for the whole expedition

[distant ice]

No they won't respawn 🤔

[vital sierra]

i got some bois stuck in 1 of the Dig site mission

they can't get to me for some reason

so they despawn

and respawn in front of me

about a room away

[distant ice]

You sure it wasn't a separate wave

[vital sierra]

max cap

it would be stupid to kill the wave when your team are down

[distant ice]

Well if some despawned there's no max cap suddenly

[vital sierra]

hence respawn

[distant ice]

Another wave, not the same dudes

[vital sierra]

you could say that

[elfin sparrow]

so if it happened to a mother she probably wouldn't respawn then?

[vital sierra]

ye

but you can't really make her despawn

unless she somehow glitch herself

[elfin sparrow]

Yeah I get you was just something I saw on stream that I'd never seen before

Could probably find the clip if you're interested

[steel valley]

i'd be interested to see it

[vital sierra]

ye

but if it's dig site

then it's understandable

[elfin sparrow]

Was C2 I think

[vital sierra]

c2 is the R1 tile

[steel valley]

refinery yeah

[vital sierra]

ye

refinery is better

it's like lab tile

[steel valley]

a mother despawning there is weird to me

never seen anything like that

[vital sierra]

we never know unless we saw the clip

[elfin sparrow]

16 hour stream - I'm hunting for it though 🙂

[vital sierra]

wow

[elfin sparrow]

Can I post link here? Or should I dm?

[vital sierra]

media?

media and fan art

[elfin sparrow]

👍

it's about a 4 minute sequence to get the full context but I'll post the point where they realize she de-spawned

[steel valley]

that's really weird and i've got no clue why that would happen

it's definitely not normal behavior or cause of the baby spawns

maybe she was low and wandered into a mine/sentry somewhere?

[vital sierra]

she won't despawn

something happen

that tile are flat, she could have chase them down

[elfin sparrow]

Fair enough - honestly was just curious as I'd never seen anything like it

and I know nuggies and barghest are both very experienced

[vital sierra]

i know

she died

ye

she super low

watched the previous minutes

[elfin sparrow]

when he BC to the back? True there were more gunshots after in the background

I guess the other guy killed her w/o realizing?

[vital sierra]

there are mines

[steel valley]

quickly scrubbing through the vod you can see mines above baby height

[vital sierra]

left over mines from alarm

[steel valley]

she walked into one when she was already low

[elfin sparrow]

ahh interesting

[vital sierra]

you can dodge babies fairly easily

if you jump

run and jump i mean

[steel valley]

if you look at 6:54:09 there is a broken door which was foamed and mines earlier in the vod

the mother broke that door and died

probably when barghest was kiting

[vital sierra]

circle kite

cringe

[steel valley]

the door is foamed and mined at 6:45:58 if you want to look

[vital sierra]

at 6:51:52, she only have 2 tumours left

[steel valley]

yeah the mine is also deployable so it can't have been picked up

so she set it off or someone shot it for no reason

[vital sierra]

6:54:08, no more mine

she triggered it

[vital sierra]

ye

[elfin sparrow]

Quality detective work here

[steel valley]

lmao anything to avoid doing actual work

[vital sierra]

i do wanna test mother birthing

just to be sure

nuggies claim each mother spawn babies individually

i'm just thinking that, ||when you triggered the 4 mothers room in E1 extreme||

they just want to spawn baby immediately

||so all 4 start birthing at the same time||

[steel valley]

it's probably easier to test whether that's the case or not in b3 overload

you can cap out the blood door mother

[vital sierra]

well

that's just 1 mother

[steel valley]

and then set off the 2 mothers in the side zones once the first is done spawning

so you have time to cap out the mother first

[vital sierra]

oh

ye

[steel valley]

cause in ||e1 you have to alert all 4 at the same time||

in b3 you can control when they wake

[vital sierra]

i mean

with 40 babies, you're already spawned cap

[steel valley]

the question we're trying to answer is if it's 40 per mother or 40 total

so let the blood door mother spawn 40

then alert the other 2