gtfo-related-questions

[wooden osprey]

like how i did it

to be real after A levels game doesn't at all give you a hand

on what you need to do

or how to do it

[vital sierra]

you can type in

COMMANDS

[wooden osprey]

that as well

[vital sierra]

and it tell you what to do

[wooden osprey]

but still

[vital sierra]

the instruction already there

you have the entire tutorial on 1 single terminal

[craggy pier]

And the mission objectives in the top left corner shows what you need to do

[elder cave]

does reactor startup and verify, logs and read show up in commands? I don't think so. I could be wrong, because I didn't use "commands" on R4B1 because i assume it was the same for every level

[craggy pier]

YES

[wooden osprey]

let me go check

[craggy pier]

Reactor startup/verify only shows in the reactor terminal

[elder cave]

It definitely didn't show me that.

[craggy pier]

"Start up reactor I don't do it enough to memorize the objecive text?"

[wooden osprey]

it saids find the reactor terminal and startup the reactor i think

im checking the command thing

give me a moment

[elder cave]

dang, I'll type "commands" next time I do it then to check if it shows up.

Kinda of a bitch that the "commands" thing works differently based on which level you're on. But I guess fair is fair. As long as it in the game it's cool. I just got a bit annoyed that we had to google. But I guess that was on us.

[wooden osprey]

almost there

[elder cave]

ok

[wooden osprey]

yep it dose tell you that

[elder cave]

in the "commands"?

[wooden osprey]

give me a sec to take a screen shot

also the mission saids start up the reactor

[elder cave]

yeah, that it did. But it didn't say how. But as long as it's in the "commands" thing on the terminal it's cool

We missed this I guess

Thanks for being helpful guys

[wooden osprey]

i think its only on the main terminal let me test that out as well

[elder cave]

k

[wooden osprey]

also the game will not give you a hand on what to do you signed up for that remmber

yep

its just on the main reactor terminal

that makes sense ngl

[wooden osprey]

.

anyway GL on your next run 🙂

[elder cave]

k, thanks guys

[wooden osprey]

gl and happy dying o7.

[noble sierra]

Any special terminal command is listed within "COMMANDS"

[thorny garden]

UPLINK_CONNECT and VERIFY
REACTOR_STARTUP and VERIFY
read game plot audio LOGS

also can't remember the commands relates to floodgate, deactivate filter, disable life support, mine's climate system and reactor related in D1

[tacit zealot]

Isn't one of the mission objective prompts "Type in REACTOR_STARTUP" ?? I swear I see this

[wooden osprey]

yes they called reactor levels

dysnc vally as i call them

[dawn egret]

A1 extreme has two uplinks
B1 extreme has a reactor

[exotic ember]

its actually not a valley its a game 🤣

[wooden osprey]

if you said that for legit shame on you

[exotic ember]

why shame on me?

[wooden osprey]

because everyone knows what im talking about (not everybody but most)

[exotic ember]

clearly not everybody as I dont can you explain the thing here?

[wooden osprey]

so you never heard of dysnc? (or however its spelled)

(last time i checked it was spelled like that soo ya)

(nope its desync i think)

[gilded mist]

Do you mean desync

Oh

[wooden osprey]

last time i typed it like that someone said its called dysnc

xd

[exotic ember]

No ive heard of that dsync is it a game mechanic?

[wooden osprey]

i let you be than im not going to explain it

[exotic ember]

why not?

[wooden osprey]

because doc is going to

and he knows best

[exotic ember]

ok that would work thank you doc

[gilded mist]

[lilac fulcrum]

Desync is an unintended effect when what the clients and host thing is happening is not what's actually happening. It's something we work on fixing as best we can, but network latency and events can cause it to happen.

[wooden osprey]

im not a expert so i should not explain it as i may give miss misinformation

[wooden osprey]

thanks

[exotic ember]

ok so its unintended but whats the effect

[distant ice]

the effect can be anything that goes through networking

[wooden osprey]

its alot of things

we cant really say its this and this and this

[lilac fulcrum]

The effect is that you shoot where you think an enemy is but they are in a different place or they don't take damage because you think they are there but aren't, etc

[exotic ember]

i see so basically it just makes your game run at a different time than everyone elses

[wooden osprey]

and they just keep runnin in one space

when they die

blood doors open 2 times

so there is more enemys

terminals dont work right

you become deadpool as you cant die

but you can revive and kill others

[gilded mist]

It can also make the run just break.

[wooden osprey]

yep

thats why i dont have D1 at all

not even on high

as desync just kills my runs

[gilded mist]

B1 taught me that if you have any signs of desync don't touch the damn cells.

[wooden osprey]

and its mostly on reactor levels

as game spawns too many enemys in

and is keeping the timer/spawn count and timer/readying a code/and etc as i dont remmber

its just pain

[exotic ember]

wouldnt it just que the enemies up as all scans are apex scans?

[wooden osprey]

apex scans?

[exotic ember]

yeah

like scout waves

cuz scout waves que

i would know

(trust me dude)

[wooden osprey]

yes they que up but for some reason for reactors network problems spike

sky high

[gilded mist]

Max spawn amount is too many enemies especially with desync kicking in

[wooden osprey]

i never had a problem with surge alarms for the most part

[gilded mist]

And with desync they might go beyond the max spawn. Ya never know

[wooden osprey]

so its something else

[exotic ember]

oh so if i go on airplane mode desync wont happen since theres no network connection?

[wooden osprey]

well desync never happen if you playing solo

as you are not connected to another player

and it will never happen if you are the host

i dont host as others have desync

in my games

always

as i dont have strong internet and i live somewhere that is very bad for network connection

[gilded mist]

Issues can happen if you constantly lose/ Change internet connection I would imagine.

[wooden osprey]

if you want @exotic ember i can make a lobby go to D1 and let you join to see how desync works XD

[brazen trail]

Hum can anyone tell me why the cfoam is going through the door instead of sticking to it?

[nimble current]

Hi guys, just started playing yesterday. I completed A1 with a friend - I found Bulkhead key 68 both of the bulkheads had different keys but when I used the key it allowed me to choose either. Is this common that keys don’t have the same names as the doors?

[gilded mist]

Yes the names don't really matter unless it's coloured keys.

[nimble current]

Ok thanks man

[steel valley]

the only reason keys have names is just to make them distinguishable in levels with multiple

the color/number is completely random and means nothing

[nimble current]

Ok I’m with you thanks dude!

[gilded mist]

Colour can change based on doors in certain missions. Some doors might need a green key or a brown. Those matter. But the level will always have the key for that door somewhere.

[nimble current]

Ok, it just threw me off as both doors were yellow and needed for example 501 and 552 and the one I found was just grey and 68

[steel valley]

you found 2 keys with the same color in the same expedition?

[nimble current]

No no - there were two bulkheads which needed yellow numbered keys. And I found a grey 68 key and when I used it, it allowed me to choose which bulkhead it would open.

[steel valley]

ah

bulkhead keys are a bit different

they don't have a color, and any bulkhead key can be used for any controller

most controllers give you a choice of which door you want to go through

[nimble current]

Ok I see, I’m sure it’ll make sense the more I play. Thanks for the help everyone.

[dreamy wind]

If i decide to go on overload with my first bulkhead. Can i go to extrem with the bulkhead i find in overload? or is that bulkhead only for primary mission?

[soft kiln]

usually overload has bulkhead key to go to extreme (or high)
and extreme has bulkhead key that leads to high (or overload)
(A3, C3, D2)
or
you must need to use one bulkhead key to access extreme before going to overload
(B2, B3, C2)

A2 is a special case where you need one to access extreme

then you need to go to overload to get the 2nd bulkhead key to get into second extreme zone

[rugged dock]

any tips on how to survive the 12 code scan in c1 ex?

[ruby wasp]

1 c-foam, ton of tools, someone who know how to input codes fast, done

To sum up, try to preserve tool refills ( both for cfoam in extreme and mines for the tank)

sentry won't need any tool, and take whatever you want as last tool (cfoam for example ?)

[gilded mist]

You can also just have two cfoam players since other tools in that level other than mine deployer aren't really needed.

[ruby wasp]

ye

just saying it's doable with a single cfoam if tool refills are managed correctly

[tough bison]

Duos for D1: We've been struggling a bit. Anyone know the best loadout for it?

[jolly zealot]

I used tu duo it, we had auto pistol/burst and har/revolver with two autos.
I think these days one sniper sentry would be a better choice

[tough bison]

Thats what we thought, but the Sniper Turret takes a while to lock on to enemies. We've done mines and auto for tools and Hel/Combat shotgun and Carbine/MG

sometimes instead of Hel/Combat shotgun we run AR/BC

[jolly zealot]

One burst is a very good choice to get rid of nasty things

[tough bison]

yeah theres been a lotta big guys

last time we used it was back on B1

[cursive hornet]

Any advice on effectively using the lmg/machine gun? Recoil kicks way too much to shoot weakspots reliably and even for groups a well used burst cannon burst seems more effective.

[austere bronze]

i use it more like a big autopistol

better for cc

[cursive hornet]

Then why not use smol autopistol? Way more ammo

[austere bronze]

dunno, maybe you like hel revolver

autopistol has bad killing potential

mg is ok

[cursive hornet]

When I use auto I just stagger stuff with it and kill via shotgun/hammer

[tacit zealot]

I feel using machine gun in short bursts of 3 helps with recoil and aim.

Often around 3 bullets will kill any striker in my experience

[spark wolf]

you shouldn't really be trying to use it on weakspots

that used to be very effective

but the changes that it received make it pretty clear that the devs aren't intending for us to use the mg like that

[shrewd dirge]

@rugged dock
if you get the middle room, you need to respect and use the spawn rules to keep the wave spawns coming from one direction, or you will have enemys coming from all doors.
two people should be in rooms to force the spawn to not spawn there.
the north room is a split room, and if no one is in either half, they will spawn there.
this is the unlucky spawn but its still doable. foam the door near the terminal and put a sentry on the other side so it does not interrupt terminalperson.

if you get the back room, have 3 people pushed up, then retreat slowly to use less tool refil, hold your last door with foam and mines, sentrys behind the door with you to help hold when it breaks.

[spark wolf]

you save barely any ammo by hitting weakspots with it

and you'll end up destroying weakspots so that other teammates with weapons that do more damage against weakspots can't actually hit those weakspots anymore

the mg serves nearly the same role as the autopistol now

where the only benefit you get is the extra range

while you get to deal with the charge-up and recoil

[frosty tinsel]

yo

does dmr one shot headshot little ones

[wise thicket]

Shooters yes

strikers no

[frosty tinsel]

not the melee ones

is it still good?

[wise thicket]

if you can hit head shots

[frosty tinsel]

or should i just keep the AR

[exotic ember]

DMR

[covert oracle]

monke cant aim dont listen

[exotic ember]

yes i can

im easily top 3% of the world in gtfo for aim

[covert oracle]

based aimer

[exotic ember]

no

im only redpilled not based and redpilled

[frosty tinsel]

im thinking dmr combat shotty

i usually use shotgun

[cursive hornet]

Top 3% dont mean much when 97% fail on A1

[frosty tinsel]

but ar feels like just spray

[covert oracle]

combat bad

[frosty tinsel]

rly?

[covert oracle]

at least for me i dont like it

[exotic ember]

Literally any top player can vouch for me

my aim is percise

and good

i miss maybe 1 of 20 shot

[covert oracle]

monke what' s opnininion on combat

[exotic ember]

maybe

shit

dmr sniper bio only

[frosty tinsel]

ahh

[covert oracle]

combat spread is bad but if youre close then it's not bad

i mean

[cursive hornet]

Did anyone do a good meme E1 run with DMR/Sniper only ?

[covert oracle]

that is indeed what shotguns do

we'll get it done

[exotic ember]

i always get it done

wrong emoji

[covert oracle]

you humble me

[exotic ember]

did you see what i posted on accident

[covert oracle]

:)

L

[frosty tinsel]

question

on b3

after you enter in the commands

for the uplink

the endless waves stop

because what ik

[steel valley]

nope

[frosty tinsel]

so then how do you win

if theres just waves waves

[steel valley]

that last terminal is an error

you just gotta run

[frosty tinsel]

thats the whole mission

just

terminal

waves

enter in codes

run gg

[keen solar]

Finish the last terminal and run to the extraction

[vital sierra]

or

just have 1 person do the last terminal

choose the best terminal that 1 person can do

[frosty tinsel]

?

I feel like i dont properly understand it

sry

but

I have to use all the terminals

or just one

because it says 810 604 681

[steel valley]

there are three terminals

the first two are basically easier alarms but they end once the uplink is finished

the last one never turns off

[neon gust]

Ok, so all terminal to finish high difficulty, last one triggers an never ending alarm so you have to rush to extract

[craggy pier]

Can you die from infection

No

Great thanks

Also is there an alarm at the end of b1

[steel valley]

c4 alarm + blood door

[austere bronze]

dont forget to bring repellers for the class 4

[tough bison]

Whats the easiest prisoner efficacy? having problems with A2

[gilded jolt]

A2 or A3

[soft kiln]

A2:
no matter how you have ppls hammer the error alarm,
the scouts will most likely scream

[gilded jolt]

I think the extremes in both of them are pretty similar in difficulty

A3 has a harder overload IMO but you only have to deal with error alarm for overload and one alarm after not all of overload and extreme like in A2

[short talon]

Well the problem with A3 is that you have todo another bulkhead after the overload unlike A2 which you just run back to spawn, drop the second cryo in, and done

[sand tusk]

yeah A2 is harder for pe than A3 imo

[tough bison]

We mostly run Hel/combat shotgun auto turret and Pistol/Mg and mines

we are a duo

[sand tusk]

if your only doing overload then yeah a2 is easier, but if your doing pe then A2 is harder since in A2 you gotta do voerload first then extreme, where as A3 you can do extreme before overload

[short talon]

also I like how steam went from 18 minutes to 1 day to 9 minutes whlie installing gtfo on my laptop

[gilded jolt]

A2 overload is not bad if you can kite, extreme could cause a problem as a duo

[sand tusk]

yeah its not bad just have someone always making sure the 4 enemies dont chase into the other rooms where there are enemies

[short talon]

well if the scout spawns in the first room, then its easier, if it spawns in the second room, then the scout will most likely wake up due to the error wave spawning and screaming in the scout room

(for A2 overload)

[gilded jolt]

That’s why I said if you can kite cause if the scouts alert you can just kite the waves

I think A3 overload could be hard as a duo

[short talon]

Yeah A3 overload is hard with 4 sometimes, a duo is a lot harder

mines and a sentry is really what you want, cause that blood door is death with out mines

[gilded jolt]

I mean you have that alarm blood door which could be bad then the large amount of giants and hybrids after inputting the command

[sand tusk]

mine it lol

[short talon]

well the wave after the terminal isnt too bad, its the blood door which is worst which can have wayyyy to many sleepers

the extreme in A3 is much easier though cause you do it at the start

[sand tusk]

^

[short talon]

unlike A2 which you have todo while the error alarm is doing off

[sand tusk]

exactly, and i find it more of a struggle dealing with the constant error alrarm than 1 bloody door

[short talon]

then you got B2 with the error alarm at the start-

[soft kiln]

and thats what make B2 a fun playground

[gilded jolt]

A2 PE has a constant (although pretty easy to deal with) threat with the error and A3 just has a couple hard parts in overload

[short talon]

just do A2 PE solo

[barren rock]

Is it better to ads with shotguns?

[sudden burrow]

I feel like it’s mostly based on preference and distance tbh

I’ve hardly used the combat, but pump it feels like the effective range doesn’t really necessitate it all that often

Choke mod has more range, so it comes up more frequently

[blissful sun]

A2 has too many rooms where the error can spawn ahead

which is pain

[vital sierra]

i don't think ads with shotgun do anything

i could justt jump in and test that

yup

ads doesn't matter on shotgun

[tacit zealot]

What's your guys hardest rundowns? Like a tier list

Don't know much about other rundowns only started this rundown.

[noble sierra]

Unlike other guns, hipfire won't reduce the precision of shotgun. You can still take advantage that ADS and hipfire have different mouse sensitivity.

[neon gust]

r2 was the hardest

[steel valley]

r2>r4>r3>r1

for difficulty

[wooden osprey]

interesting to see

[vital sierra]

Alpha level > Rundowns

[noble sierra]

By the "hours spent to complete the rundown", it's R2 > R4 > R1 > R3 for me. However it's hard to judge the difficulty with this since back to R1/R2 I'm not that experienced and the strikers are also slower back then.

[tacit zealot]

Cheers!

[keen solar]

R4.5+4 might be slightly difficult than R2?

[tacit zealot]

Watching r2E1 VODS looks messed.

[steel valley]

r.4.5 i still think is easier than r2

the only very difficult expedition in r4 is e1

[wooden osprey]

wasn't the first door for R2E1 a surge?

in a big ass room

[steel valley]

r2d1 and r2d2 were both hard expeditions, and r2e1 was the hellhole we all know

[wooden osprey]

i heared a lot of a things

[keen solar]

Yeah, if it's about E1, then R4E1 might be slightly harder than R2E1

[wooden osprey]

from scaler mostly he told me all about it XD

[steel valley]

probably yeah

[noble sierra]

Probably R4E1 is the hardest but veteran players are getting better.

[cobalt holly]

ngl I find C3PE harder than E1, I never really had any problems in E1 except for the boss in the end, but after you got the trickle done it's really smooth cha cha

[steel valley]

but rundown to rundown r2 was harder altogether compared to r4

[tacit zealot]

R4D levels are quite easy I feel like.

[wooden osprey]

Q: how tf did you you guys survive those level (R2E1)

[cobalt holly]

just kite

[keen solar]

I didn't find R2 difficult except E1. Eventually I could run into R4D1 solo inside the fog lol

[wooden osprey]

like im just hearing about it and im saying its impossible

[cobalt holly]

well R2 has easy kiting

[steel valley]

r4 d expeditions are way easier than r2 d expeditions tho

[neon gust]

machine gun and bugged shotgun sentry

[wooden osprey]

ohhh ya that makes sense

[weary mesa]

and headshot bug

[keen solar]

R2E1 was possible to solo R4E1 can't

[wooden osprey]

mostly for the bugged shotgin sentry

[tacit zealot]

Is there a solo VOD?

[wooden osprey]

as it had the power of sun and more

[tacit zealot]

r2e1

[cobalt holly]

it's just like kiting shadwos, they use R2 kiting, and if you've ever kited those you should know how easy they are

[keen solar]

I don't think anyone has completed R4E1 solo...

[noble sierra]

Back to R2, except R2E1, only R2C1 cost me some time before completion.

[steel valley]

@tacit zealot project zaero has twitch vods of solo

[tacit zealot]

Cheers.

[keen solar]

Yeah, I finished R2A-D in a day.

[cobalt holly]

Not even sure if that's possible, due to all the filled rooms, not a big map to kite, and the trickle

[wooden osprey]

if someone dose R4E1 solo i will question how much did they sacrifice and also how much monster energy drink did they get

[tacit zealot]

Someone managed to beat both S1 scans on B3 solo recently, I think if the first tank can be beaten solo and spawn caps are managed, the first few alarms should be managable solo.

[neon gust]

R4E1 solo would be like 6+ hours

[keen solar]

If they can survive the first part, they should be able to manage the second part pretty easy.

[cobalt holly]

there is solo videos on B3PE solo on youtibe

[tacit zealot]

Yes.

[steel valley]

class 6 s1 at the end will be hell

[neon gust]

b3 dont have decending fog and tank error

[weary mesa]

or infectious fog either

[cobalt holly]

ngl I think the 2 S1 scans are gonna be the worst

especially the S1 surge

and if you can't do it all under 15 minutes solo the fog will fuck you

[steel valley]

the class 6 s1 will pretty much end up being a surge s1

[noble sierra]

In solo, the class III and class VI is way harder than S1 surge.

[steel valley]

cause you just circle kite the s1s

[cobalt holly]

well ngl kiting the Class VI S1 isn't hard, you can't go really far because of the fog zones, but just going to the entrance is enough to get a scan done,

[keen solar]

Yeah, also if anyone could solo R4E1, that person must be super free irl lol

[tacit zealot]

If you get bad RNG on the scans it may be impossible to kite and fill up the S1 on the VI.

[keen solar]

I don't even wanna stand in the scan for 1 min and a half lol

[tacit zealot]

Especially if it goes upstairs in that room.

[keen solar]

Then you have to do a Class VI...

[tacit zealot]

doubt anyone will get past the first 3 scans anyways before r5 lol

[keen solar]

I think someone did get past the first scan, didn't we?

Didn't Neko get pass the second scan?

[noble sierra]

Yes, heard at least 3 people passed the first class III scan.

[wooden osprey]

mad lads ppl mad lads

[keen solar]

Not interested in those meaningless attempt so I am not going for it

[wooden osprey]

ye

because if you even get pass everything

and i mean everything

you still have the extraction scan

that is a hell on its own

[keen solar]

Not because of that, it's just plain boring when you play by yourself zzz

[cobalt holly]

ngl I only solo missions where you don't need to kite too much, since that's a really meaningless skill to me, and E1 def falls under that ctaegory

[wooden osprey]

that as well

i did one A2 extreme solo run

[keen solar]

I would rather hear my teammate scream zzz

[wooden osprey]

was my first

and i hated myself

[weary mesa]

Just run away from the enemy

easy clap

[wooden osprey]

its just boaring to have to kite everything or shoot everything

so i just stoped on extreme obj

half way

[short talon]

just jump back onto the hellevator and get out, easy

[tacit zealot]

Q: Does multiple people in extraction scan speed it up?

[wooden osprey]

yes

as i know yes

[vital sierra]

yes and no

[steady violet]

Yes. The scan can go qicker, but there is scans where they will go fast even with one person in it. For example the A1 scan

[vital sierra]

it's a panda

[steady violet]

It is

[steel valley]

object scans (i.e. c3 or a2) do not scale with players, but afaik, all others do

[tacit zealot]

Cheers. Makes sense, was watching Kolohe's C1.

[barren rock]

A Panda

[steady violet]

[sand tusk]

in d2, does the fog rise only when you complete the extreme? or does it rise regardless (i cant be f'd trying it again on just high)

[austere bronze]

only if you do extreme

[sand tusk]

ye i thought so, cheers

[undone latch]

Hey guys. Hoping for a definitive answer on this. If you use a Sniper Sentry it won’t prioritise shooting a scout will it? I’ve seen people kill a Scout this way but I just want to know if you drop the sentry it won’t just go for a Scout it’ll go for any enemy right? I think it’ll go for any enemy I just want to clarify for our group. Thanks!

[fleet vessel]

no it will not

[nova kite]

Target priority doesn't exist

[distant ice]

it seems to go for the furthest target from my experience

[fleet vessel]

as far as I can see all turrets have a very simple targeting system - they start up their green scan thingy and move from the left to the right initially (before sweeping left-right-left-right-etc)
This initial sweep will target the first enemy it finds.
The green line is not entirely correct, as turrets can see besides it.

[nova kite]

Yeah me too, it feels like it has a minimum range too

[fleet vessel]

at least from what I can see

It always targets the first enemy it finds when I place it in the middle of the room, might be wrong - should try that later.

[nova kite]

Sniper sentry is good for long hallways so like a3

A3 bridge

B3 bridge

[fleet vessel]

yea

it's very very powerful on stuff like that

but otherwise pretty damn useless since most enemies will run past it before it can lock on to shoot

[distant ice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXuApOPbiAk&feature=youtu.be

[fleet vessel]

l m a o

so much to that "theory" (observation).

[neon gust]

It literally is like any other sentry

it just has more range

no priority no nothing

They havent added anything particulary like that YET

[undone latch]

Thanks guys. I knew it was a stupid question but I’d rather be sure!

[neon plaza]

do centuries and bullets deal damage to doors?

[distant ice]

sentries*

and no

[neon plaza]

ok thanks

[loud marsh]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wU4y147wT link for the d1 high solo. i didn't check if it's legit or not though.

[vital sierra]

people said, his aim are a little fishy

but

nonetheless, the run is fine

he don't have that much knowledge about reactor level either

[flat rock]

I don't personally like how the recording doesn't show the entire run, it comes off as odd to me.

[vital sierra]

i mean, nobody like 1 guy going around stealth for a long time

i can't really said it long either since there is no timer at the end

[flat rock]

I'm aware, but it doesn't show the first wave or the actual extraction.

The extraction screen especially I feel would be something important to show

But whatever, if it not legit oof and if it is legit dope

[vital sierra]

the sniper sentry kinda make the run more easier

[tacit zealot]

Wow cheers. Appreciate it a lot!

[neon slate]

Legit or not imo the footage wouldn't be valid for speedrun unless the whole recording is linked elsewhere

[worn grove]

[loud marsh]

yeah. i don't think the guy who uploaded it really cared abt it anyway.

[neon slate]

That could be the case

[vital sierra]

that video has shown how powerful sniper sentry is if it was added in early rundown

for reactor level of course

[loud marsh]

I watched his stream couple days ago. he was also soloing d1. his aim was no where near what he showed in the vid. but welp, i dont want to speculate on stuff without proof.

[jolly zealot]

That's extremely good aim there, and very good understanding of the game mechanisms

Hard to believe but well, I only can say wow

[vital sierra]

the video is fine, nothing to be suspicious of

D1 are only aim and shoot

get code and gtfo

[loud marsh]

exactly. which confused me more since he played way worse in stream. it's like if there are two players playing his acct lol

[vital sierra]

the better aim you have, the more successful you'll get in that level

bruh

i believe you can even solo extreme as well

but you're going to have a really hard time with 2 birthers in the last room

[loud marsh]

max cap the babies then its ez af 🙂

[jolly zealot]

You probably would need burst cannon to at least get one fast

[vital sierra]

giants are in there too

[jolly zealot]

Anyway, impressive d1 if it's real, props to that guy

[vital sierra]

you can pre-scan extraction to 90%

and then do extreme

if you can't do it, just bail

[jolly zealot]

Yeah that's how all my d1 high only happened :p

[rugged dock]

when are the scenarios that putting sentries behind a cfoamed door is better than just cfoaming the door with a mine in front

[austere bronze]

when you want to kill the enemies who are banging on the door before they break through i guess

[steel valley]

the only situation is probably if the door is too far to be refoamed, and the sentry would buy enough time

[neon gust]

Long before time we used to have a bugged sentry called shotgun sentry, its damage will increase with the amount of players in the lobby, it could two shot a giant by itself from the back

it really didnt matter back then, so people would put it behind doors

[steel valley]

because it was so broken that it could solo waves no issue lol

[neon gust]

because one shot one kill from that sentry

[steel valley]

good days

[neon gust]

Machinegun was the show stealer tho

that would literally melt sleepers infront of you

Man

[steel valley]

or the completely silent mines

best scout killing weapon

[neon gust]

everything was so busted before lmao

😆

[gaunt fulcrum]

Anyone know what the NRV probe thing means at the end of the expedition

[flat rock]

It at present means nothing

It likely will be tied to a new mechanic in the future, like how the infection status is now tied to the infection mechanic

R1 had no infection mechanic, so that would be my reasoning for why it will be tied to something more likely than not in the future

[gaunt fulcrum]

I see ty ty

[flat rock]

Mental status is another one that likely in the future will get a mechanic associated with it

But that's purely speculation on my part

[delicate plinth]

hello people whats a Surge alarm

my friends and I are doing D2 rn

[steel valley]

spawns the enemy cap immediately but only strikers with a chance for hybrids

[lament sparrow]

Instantly spawns spawn cap, replaces any enemies you kill, 3 team scans

[steel valley]

^

[lament sparrow]

It's a mess

[delicate plinth]

well fck okay thank u

[lament sparrow]

I'd skip on it in D2 imo

[austere bronze]

yeah just move on and do the class v

[steel valley]

unless pe

[delicate plinth]

lol alright

[austere bronze]

better to save resources than wasting time/ammo going for the room

[steel valley]

there is one surge that isn't optional for overload

[austere bronze]

even if its pe just speedrun

[steel valley]

to open the overload bulkhead

[lament sparrow]

Yeah but at least that's at the start of the level : D

[steel valley]

it's also pretty easy to solo

[lament sparrow]

The door pathing is ... interesting in that first room

[steel valley]

yeah i still don't really get it lol

[lament sparrow]

🧀

[finite sentinel]

what are the easiest levels to solo in this rundown? if any lol

[steel valley]

a2

[austere bronze]

^^

only 2 class ii scans required for high completion

[plain birch]

A1 is pretty easy too for PE

[steel valley]

a3/a1 are pretty much the same

a1 solo uplinks are more challenging for the ext part

so wouldn't recommend that for an easy solo

[plain birch]

It is not so bad if you bring c-foam.

They are only 3 codes each

[lament sparrow]

A1,2,3 and B2 I'd say are pretty easy solos

assuming you're only doing high

but I'd start A2 since that's the easiest level of the rundown period

[steel valley]

yeah for sure

[lament sparrow]

I find the B levels easy aside from B1, I honestly found B1 harder than C1

[steel valley]

b1 is just a stealth check

[finite sentinel]

are the solo strats mostly kiting?

[steel valley]

if you struggle with stealthing well then b1 will suck

[lament sparrow]

well class 2s you can do without any kiting

class 3s you can do without kiting if you use foam

but kiting is boring

[steel valley]

all a-tier high alarms should be doable without kiting

as long as the setup is good

[austere bronze]

wb the class iv in a3?

[lament sparrow]

I kited the class 4 a bit but felt bad about it

probably didn't need to open the side zone and could've just set up a sniper on the bridge

[steel valley]

^

if you open loot zone then you will struggle to hold cause they spawn so much closer

[austere bronze]

so bring sniper sentry, dont open resource room

[vital sierra]

why is the explosive trip mine dealing less damage than the mine deployer

but c foam grenade create more foam than the c foam launcher itself

[steel valley]

it really should be buffed to be at least as strong as a normal mine

the inconsistency is annoying and confusing for newer players

[finite sentinel]

yeah, id assume its better than the mine deployer just cus u have to find it and u only get one

[steel valley]

cfoam greande = 30% tool usage of cfoam launcher

deployable mine = worth less than 10% tool usage of mine deployer

why

[sand tusk]

really??? everyone i knew told me that the explosive tripmine did more then regular mines

[flat rock]

Nope

[sand tusk]

i learn something knew everyday it seems from this game wow

but does the 30% c-foam from the grenade work so that it takes the sleepers longer to break open the door in comparison to a full charge shot from the launcher?

[steel valley]

no

once a door has the foam animation it's at max "foam hp"

it just makes it more powerful for throwing on the floor/foaming boss enemies

[sand tusk]

i see

[wooden osprey]

but

if you really need to cfoam a door

you use it like some D2 doors

[steel valley]

??

[sand tusk]

or in d1

since the game literally floods you with c foam nades

[wooden osprey]

those are for the ||mothers|| i think :/

[steel valley]

i just take em for code 4/4

so i don't need a foam launcher for the alarm

[sand tusk]

hmmm, they get aggroed inmst6antly dont they?

[wooden osprey]

thats a very good idea ngl

next time i go to D1 to try to beat it once and for all i try it

[sand tusk]

depending on how well your team does the scan you should only need to foam it 3 times, then shoud have at least 1 spare c foam for the extreme

[steel valley]

yea plus you will likely have some excess foam grenades lying around somewhere in lockers

[wooden osprey]

ya

[sand tusk]

^ and when you complete high you have all the time in the world to look for them

[wooden osprey]

man i love D1 so much but i cant play it ):

[steel valley]

d1 is a pretty fun map

[sand tusk]

for me my group i played with we failed d1 like close to 20 times but when we ran 3 sniper sentries we did it first try

[wooden osprey]

desync killing me ):

[steel valley]

sniper sentries make it so easy lol

[sand tusk]

yeah XD

[wooden osprey]

it dose

its just unfair XD

[steel valley]

i want to try to do it the legit way soon

no catwalk

just hold reactor

[sand tusk]

i mean holding reactor can be viable for like the first wave

after that idk man

[steel valley]

it would be a fun challenge

[sand tusk]

it would

[flat rock]

It's plenty viable throughout the entire experience

It just takes a lot of coordination

[steel valley]

that's why i want to give it a go

right now it's just an aim trainer down the catwalk

[sand tusk]

with the stupid hard scout room...

i hate it

[wooden osprey]

i want a scout nest

like that room

but with more scouts

[flat rock]

The scout room isn't that hard though, it just has lots of stuff in it

[wooden osprey]

and only scouts

for the most part

[flat rock]

Most all scouts stick to the bottom floor. Just creep to the top terminal, if it isn't the one ping the correct one, wait rotations, drop, and get code

[steel valley]

you can just shoot the room up as well

[sand tusk]

lol no XD

[steel valley]

you have enough time to clear it up + all the scouts if you want

[wooden osprey]

peace you say that but its harder than you think for most ppl

[sand tusk]

your looking at 100+ enemies

[steel valley]

either alert it quick or stealth it well

[flat rock]

It really isn't Rey

[wooden osprey]

say that to 90% of the dead runs :/

[flat rock]

Issues occur when someone creates a bad situation

Just play safe, not risky

[wooden osprey]

that in pubs its a lot XD

[flat rock]

If you need to reset to do another wave, do it instead

It's not that hard a concept, people just feel too rushed because of a timer and forget to play the game tactically

[wooden osprey]

ya

[flat rock]

Or, are fucking about and get found out

[wooden osprey]

for me myself its not hard

if i get a good ping

i can sneak my way to the terminals

well unless there is ||big chargers||

in that case fuck that room im not going inthere

[fleet vessel]

wha? big chargers are simple enough to sneak by, provided you are careful

sneaking past hard-to-see shadows without a bio is the difficult thing

[wooden osprey]

unless you have a phobia :/

[fleet vessel]

a

trypho, or however it's written?

or a charger-phobia

[wooden osprey]

im just scared of big chargers ok

if they sleeping that is

[blissful sun]

big chargers only scare me when im not going in with my A-team

[violet mortar]

So, I am not sure if this channel is the right place to ask, but I couldn't find a comprehensive answer anywhere else. Do we know if the previous rundowns ever get back? I started playing since Rundown 4, but found out later that I basically missed the first three rundowns. I get why people like the incentive of playing rundowns that will be gone after a period of time, but me personally would hate it if I missed content to the game just because I simply couldn't play...

[fleet vessel]

they most likely won't

[blissful sun]

^

[craggy pier]

You didn't miss anything

[fleet vessel]

their files still exist but they most likely won't.

[violet mortar]

That's a bummer...

[craggy pier]

But previous rundowns don't come back

[violet mortar]

What do you mean though? The previous rundown levels were different right?

[fleet vessel]

yes

[blissful sun]

they might come back as legacy things after EA but most likely not

[fleet vessel]

that's the only thing u missed

the other level layout

and old weapons

[violet mortar]

And mission objectives

[fleet vessel]

everything else didn't change

same mission objectives just in different parts of the rundown

same enemies and more variations

^^

[craggy pier]

You only really missed specific level layouts than anything

[fleet vessel]

yup

[violet mortar]

Huh, weird. I read Rundown 3 had the missions with the Neonate HSU. Does Rundown 4 have this too?

[blissful sun]

wasn't the first rundown capped to 60 fps anyways

kekw

[craggy pier]

Back when I had 20+ fps

: ^ (

[violet mortar]

Lol, my pc isn't great anyway, so likely won't have more than 60 anyway :P

[blissful sun]

laughs in 1.2k fps in menu

[violet mortar]

But is this the case?

[blissful sun]

each rundown has their own objectives focused around one main thing

[craggy pier]

Yes, but in a different form

I.E knowledge sphere

[blissful sun]

r4 we're just collecting items for the neonate that will be needed in r5

and clearing sectors

[fleet vessel]

every objective type will reappear

it will just take a while and might not be in this specific R4 :)

[violet mortar]

Right, okay. I guess I just want to be able to follow the story at my own speed, and I feel like I am at a disadvantage only because I couldn't buy the game at Rundown 1.

But if you guys say it hasn't really changed that much, I believe you

[vital sierra]

wiki

and gtfo-lore

[blissful sun]

wasn't kiting in r1/r2 easier anyways

because the old enemies used to have shadow speed/ai stuff

[fleet vessel]

there wasn't much story back then

sure a bit existed but not that much

[violet mortar]

It is, funnily enough, the wiki that made me feel like I missed a bunch of stuff :P

[craggy pier]

Their pathing in R1 were shit

[violet mortar]

Right!

[craggy pier]

And speed bug didn't exist yet

[fleet vessel]

we are getting tiny bits and there's more and more so you haven't missed much lore "live"

and we almost never had lore directly experienced ingame, it was always the community piecing together pieces and theories

[craggy pier]

And they're less accurate in the first 2 rundowns

[fleet vessel]

those were gained ingame but actually sorted and "told" here

[violet mortar]

Right, that makes sense!

[blissful sun]

basically i feel like the devs are building the story around our theories they like the most at this point

[violet mortar]

Lol xD

[fleet vessel]

lul

nah they probably have a general plan and just include bits or twist this plan a bit if they see smth they really like ;)

[blissful sun]

x)

[violet mortar]

The 10 min documentary revealed their previous visions of the enemies, which I feel has changed a lot. Who knows the community had a part in that :P

[vital sierra]

schaefer tho

[violet mortar]

What about him? :)

[craggy pier]

Shaefer

[vital sierra]

r5 gonna be a little wild

[craggy pier]

Tubes

[violet mortar]

Riiiight, yes, very true

[blissful sun]

why do i still think that the r1d1 flavour text from the intercepted communication was from his group

[fleet vessel]

which one?
never read it, you have a sample and can post it over in #gtfo-lore ?

[craggy pier]

R1D1 had the best intro to shadows

[ruby wasp]

R1 ? Shadows ?

Tf ?

[craggy pier]

R1D1's reactor shutdown alarm spawned shadows

[ruby wasp]

Shadows appeared in R2 tho ?

[craggy pier]

Hmm?

[vital sierra]

R1

[ruby wasp]

Nvm

[vital sierra]

R2 have in C1

[ruby wasp]

Big shadows for R2

my bad

[craggy pier]

Giant shadows were in R2E1

[weary relic]

Yuh

[rain python]

Yuh

[toxic fog]

so far rundown 3 is the only one without them afaik

unless they were there and we just didnt see them

👀 💦

[rain python]

They were invisible we couldn’t see them

[weary relic]

Laughs in R1

[cyan elk]

Is there a button to disable the hud for screenshots or something?

[craggy pier]

there is an option for HUD Opacity I believe

[cyan elk]

I know, but is there a hotkey to auto disable or enable it

Kinda like in minecraft

[hard wasp]

not yet

[shrewd dirge]

Hope a hide hud button also declutters the map, wink wink

[ruby spade]

Do mine explosions do static damage to all parts of the body, e.g. does putting a mine up high do extra damage as it's to the head ?

[craggy pier]

You can assume weakpoint hitboxes go along with mines, I haven't played in a while so I can't confirm nor deny

[vital sierra]

the mine explosion hitbox are weird and randomm

you could put the mine at the giant knee and it could deal weakpoint damage

[violet mortar]

We don't know the actual stats for all the guns (e.g. damage per hit), do we? I'm making a tabletop rpg one-shot based on GTFO for my friends

[austere bronze]

nothing mined, but we have a weapon stats spreadsheet that someone got by shooting their friends

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TLAEQjYkB8eT67iz2PejtbGBe83YTjUNsf5DlAixegs/edit#gid=0

[grim gyro]

Why do some guns have "Rundown Specific" in their descriptions? What does that mean?

[austere bronze]

basically they're specific to the current rundown

[topaz anvil]

It means that after this rundown ends, those weapons will no longer be available

[austere bronze]

so odds are theyll be removed next rundown

[violet mortar]

Thank you so much!

[austere bronze]

dont thank me, thank the creator of the sheet

[grim gyro]

I see, thank you

Bookmarking that google doc too, dam thats useful thank you

[distant ice]

Made by ereggia

Apparently mods thought it was datamined but it should be cleared now

[soft kiln]

🥳

[flat rock]

"Rundown specific" simply means that for this rundown the weapon is either new or changed from a previous rundown. It doesn't mean much other than that, and certainly does not mean the weapon will be removed in the coming rundown. There have been plenty of "Rundown specific" labeled items in game that have stayed for multiple rundowns, the Burst Cannon being an example.

[nova kite]

wait you can oneshot chargers with a sniper?

[flat rock]

To back iirc

[nova kite]

the sheet says anywhere

[flat rock]

You could with the R3 sniper, I haven't had a reason to try with the R4 sniper

It's just not ammo efficient to do so.

[frosty tinsel]

just beat all of a-b on high and we have to do an extreme level now any fun ones

that aren't b1

because fk that stage

[steel valley]

a2 ext is easy but boring

same for a3

actually just all the a extremes

[frosty tinsel]

when will we fight a boss

i've heard about them

[steel valley]

c1

[frosty tinsel]

sounds cool

ok ok

[steel valley]

b1 extreme is actually pretty fun

[frosty tinsel]

rly?

[steel valley]

it's the one redeeming part of that expedition

[frosty tinsel]

because me and my friends spent a total of about 8 hours

stuck

on that stage

just bad memories

[steel valley]

well

[frosty tinsel]

waking the whole room up in fog lmao

[steel valley]

it's a very very different change in pace

b1 high is all about crawling slowly and extreme you are running all over the place and shooting a lot

[frosty tinsel]

with fog?

alot of fog

or no

[steel valley]

there is like one small patch of fog in the whole extreme

it's nothing like the rest of the lvl

[frosty tinsel]

ok ok we will try it tonight

because we died so much

[steel valley]

it will probably kill you

but it'll also prepare you for later expeditions

[vagrant current]

It's a reactor mission with a surprise guest

[craggy pier]

so, idk if this is just a thing happening to me, but I'm trying to solo A1, bold of me since I suck at fps, but it seems that each time I die the level gets more difficult unless I break it up with team play? Like I got to the first alarmed door and there were twenty sleepers in the room and that was the fourth try so..?

[steel valley]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

keep it a surprise

[frosty tinsel]

o.o

guests are scary

[vagrant current]

That's why I said it was a surprise I can keep it there

:)

[frosty tinsel]

i did rly enjoy b3

how i had to type on the terminal the codes

cool af

[steel valley]

b3 is a good map

extreme is boring

but overload is good

and high is fun

[vagrant current]

Yeah

I like extreme and Overload. Not a fan of high.

[frosty tinsel]

just hate how u have to do the map with no doors

because terminal + the door scan

[steel valley]

i felt like the extreme on b3 was basically just there to soften you up for overload

[frosty tinsel]

it was do able

[steel valley]

you won't die on extreme, but the resource drain can kill your overload

[frosty tinsel]

true melee

[vagrant current]

If you stealth it good, then it's just all positive resources.

But tbh I do Overload first then extreme

[steel valley]

there is literally 1 use of each resource in the side doors

it's not great

[vagrant current]

Usually works out

[steel valley]

i just find it tedious for the same reason i find b1 high tedious

crawling around giants isn't much fun

[vagrant current]

Idk I like the stealth elements. I prefer the slow crawl over the run and gun.

Just build tension better imo.

[steel valley]

yeah it's all personal taste

[frosty tinsel]

everything is fine

you know whats not fun

fog

its so stupid

you burn

and die

[steel valley]

you think you have the fog bad now

[frosty tinsel]

yes

b1 high

hated it

[steel valley]

you're coming up on hell soonish

[frosty tinsel]

ffs

[wooden osprey]

this game fog is one of the best fogs i ever seen

[frosty tinsel]

just when the room wakes up

where doi u go

[wooden osprey]

like when i go in toxic fog my eyes burn

like tears come out fully idk why

[flat rock]

This is simply the RNG of the game, it doesn't ramp difficulty for each failure.

[steel valley]

when the room alerts in the fog i just run out and leave my teammates for dead normally lol

tank a bit of infection but at least we won't all go down

[frosty tinsel]

yeah

we do that always

just always were 20%

[vagrant current]

Yeah at the end of the day as long as one is up you can recover

[frosty tinsel]

I wish the big shooter enemies weren't so bugged

they never die to 4 man to the back

[wooden osprey]

well for C3

i found a way

called lab rat way

we send 1 person into the fog

[frosty tinsel]

kamikazie

[steel valley]

the big shooters aren't bugged, it's just that back damage is a spectrum basically

[wooden osprey]

and he just always be in the fog

and he alerts rooms

[steel valley]

so if you are off-center you won't get the full back damage

[frosty tinsel]

ahhh

its because they crouch

thats why nvm

u right

[vagrant current]

@craggy pier sadly peace is correct. You cant help that part of RNG. I think you can get a new seed if you fully leave and create a new lobby. I'm not really sure how they randomize it.

[frosty tinsel]

can u die to infection

or no

[steel valley]

no

[frosty tinsel]

just 1 hp

or 15

[steel valley]

1%

until you get out of the fog

[frosty tinsel]

ahh

then u heal to 15

[steel valley]

then the infection slowly resets to 85

yea

then you can heal to 15

[frosty tinsel]

but that idea of having one guy

just alert shit

is rly smart

[wooden osprey]

you cant fight the RNG but you can overcome the rng

[frosty tinsel]

saves the whole team from dying

[steel valley]

keep it in mind for the future

there are levels where you will want to try it ;)

[frosty tinsel]

how hard are the late late stages

are they like

[steel valley]

just give the fog diver a bio tracker

[frosty tinsel]

borderline impossible

[steel valley]

uhhh

depends on your skill level i guess

[frosty tinsel]

also the one thing about b1 i liked

was the resource room

super fun

[steel valley]

you have to forgo that for extreme :))

[frosty tinsel]

D:

[steel valley]

extreme loads you up though dw

[wooden osprey]

ya for extreme you get all the resources

[frosty tinsel]

because one thing that sucks is we run 2 snipers

[steel valley]

oh

[frosty tinsel]

and we are left with 2 ppl having 1 gun

for ads

[steel valley]

embrace the burst cannon

basically a better sniper

[frosty tinsel]

can it kill big guys

• scouts?

[steel valley]

2 shots

[vagrant current]

Yes

[steel valley]

for big boys to the front

and scouts in 1 bullet to the head

[vagrant current]

Just melee scouts. But I suppose having the option to shoot them is nice

[steel valley]

you can solo multikill scouts with burst cannon lol

[frosty tinsel]

wtf lol

[steel valley]

they just need to line up or you will need to break your wrist flicking

[frosty tinsel]

idk how to melee them without cfoam

they move too much

thats one thing i have to work on

[steel valley]

just bonk like how you bonk a regular sleeper

a3 has a guaranteed scout in zone 28

no alarm

[craggy pier]

you know how normal enemies get triggered and start beating when you do too much noise or flash a light? Scouts do the same but tendrils

[steel valley]

you can practice there

[frosty tinsel]

ok

[craggy pier]

letting them come to you is probably the easier way I guess

[frosty tinsel]

but i've been told there are rooms with 4+ scouts

how tf

do u do that

[steel valley]

there were rooms with 7 in r2

[craggy pier]

C2 high has 6 scouts in a zone iirc

[frosty tinsel]

:)

ok

our sniper

is pretty damn good

so he gotta get 6 headshots

no reloading

all flicks

[steel valley]

insane gaming chair

[frosty tinsel]

^^^

[steel valley]

the scout zone in c2 is my favorite

the alarm to open it sucks so much though

[frosty tinsel]

U beat the game already?

[steel valley]

yeah

was trying to solo speedrun a3 but kept dying over and over on extract

so i'm here now

[nova kite]

how do you not reload with 6 shots

[steel valley]

be better

[nova kite]

thats not how it works

[frosty tinsel]

just git gud

[nova kite]

no

you get good at bonking scouts 🙂

[wooden osprey]

bonking scout is overrated just shoot them with burst cannon

[frosty tinsel]

😃

[nova kite]

why shoot them when you can bonk

why shoot them with a burst cannon when you can silently shoot them with the sniper

[formal bear]

why kill them just put a mine and they'll never walk to it

[gilded mist]

Why even kill scouts. You can always pressure the other guy into doing it

[neon plaza]

why even kill when you have stealth and lock melters?

[fleet vessel]

why kill at all when u can do a pacifist run?

[neon plaza]

^^^^^^

i fully agree

pacifist mode 100%

[fleet vessel]

even just A1 or A2 pacifist mode, I wanna see that.

or A3 pacifist

[neon plaza]

constant attack

[fleet vessel]

constant kite and never kill...

[neon plaza]

that sounds like a lot of work. strafing across the map to get two scan dots

for a constant alarm

so for strafing more than 10 enemies is there a reason i get licked for 12%? im running and jumping on flat ground :/

[fleet vessel]

then it's just bad timing and depends on how you strafe

you have to make sure that u keep running at least a certain distance and most, if not all enemies have tongued before you turn or move sideways

[neon plaza]

wack. is there a sound cue for jumps then?

[fleet vessel]

well, you can hear them make a sound when they tongue

that happens about 0.8 seconds or so before they tongue, maybe one or 1.5 seconds

idk

[neon plaza]

yeah, but like what part of that?

[fleet vessel]

essentially, since reaction time and short time frame, jump when u hear that sound

[neon plaza]

ok, i will try it

[fleet vessel]

and it honestly works really well provided you keep running forward

[neon plaza]

is there a difference between flat ground and uneven ground?

because they get me going down a lot

[fleet vessel]

walking left-right makes you
a) slower (in comparison to straight line)
b) when they hit the "middle" of where u run u might strafe back into their hit

the only difference I can really think about is staircorners and going uphill, since staircorners have u change direction and them potentially catching up a bit and going uphill makes jumping less efficient really
uphill might work better if u run in a sinus curve
as long as you know the curve for sleepers (normal ones ofc) you can essentially just run in a circle fitting to that curve and not get hit, so running halfcurves will let you get closer to your goal whilst evading more

sleepers don't like curves, you can non-sprint sidestep/curve a sleeper 100% of the time with 5-6 steps

[spark wolf]

they move faster on flat ground

they cheat on ramps/stairs

[fleet vessel]

appropriate way to call it

[neon plaza]

also gotta love when they disapear into the stars to toung someone

thanks for the help :)

[dense wren]

So I know I can't access old rundowns but what's the plan after rundown 5 since the game is still in Early Access?

[distant ice]

wdym what's the plan

rundowns aren't just gonna stop suddenly

[sudden burrow]

Same business as usual - Rundown 4 vanishes

[dense wren]

I was just curious based off the roadmap not showing anything after

I'm new so I wasn't sure if they'd talked about it before

[sudden burrow]

Oh they just haven’t pushed the roadmap that far then

[dense wren]

Gotcha gotcha

[distant ice]

they only show the roadmap one rundown at a time

or rather than that being the intention, it's just things that planning has started on i guess

[dreamy wind]

Why is everyone doing overload first in r4a2 and then going back to extrem? Isn’t it much easier to make first extrem then overload ?

[craggy pier]

extreme doesn't have a bulkhead key

[wise thicket]

Ye

[fleet vessel]

this

[craggy pier]

So if you want to do PE you're forced to do Overload first

[wise thicket]

Same with B2

[steel valley]

b2 the only bulkhead keys are in extreme

so it's the other way around

[dreamy wind]

Ah Crazy is this in every rundown like this I’d you want to do PE?

[steel valley]

some levels give you a choice in which zone you want to go through first

but there is definitely a more optimal way to go around them

[hard wasp]

yup i always check to see if there is a bulkhead key in the zone i'm opening before using up the key

until i learn the level ofc

[fleet vessel]

since this is the first rundown with bulkheads we don't know if it will be the same in future rundowns, but this mechanic will probably exist - just maybe in different levels.

[distant ice]

Also that's not always the order, it depends on level

[fluid coral]

top best loadouts in the game (4 player)? Need help

[austere bronze]

depends on map, objectives, player preferences

[ruby wasp]

DMR/Sniper/Sniper Sentry

Anyway yeah it depends on the level most of the time

[craggy pier]

Sniper sentry*

[ruby wasp]

o o p s

[fluid coral]

What is best burst or machine gun

[craggy pier]

machine gun is fun, but burst lets you survive

[fluid coral]

chokemod vs shotgun

[austere bronze]

they all have their niche

probably most easy to use+versatile is combat shotty though

[fluid coral]

Is carbine worth it?

[craggy pier]

a bit

[austere bronze]

its very controllable