gtfo-related-questions

[fleet vessel]

but in the end yes

like

come on

[neon gust]

because theyre shorter alarms

thats why

[flat rock]

You still burn tool regardless

Theres no point to using tool imo for small alarms

[fleet vessel]

I'd burn ammo otherwise, unless all of us can do hammer-only

[neon gust]

you literally finish a class two in less than 1 min

[fleet vessel]

^

[steel valley]

i don't think he's agreeing with you lol

[fleet vessel]

like I said, I can see it being useless against Class V or higher alarms but I don't see a reason to not do it against class II-IV alarms

[neon gust]

but putting lots of sentries for a class 2 you burning precious tool

[fleet vessel]

I know

[wooden osprey]

well

in A1 or A2

[fleet vessel]

a single sentry that takes like 2-4 refills is fine

[wooden osprey]

you still better to use tools so the new players dont get rushed by time

[fleet vessel]

I mean, having someone foam the door again and again is going to burn refills too, no?

[wooden osprey]

so they can understand scans better

[flat rock]

There may be some guides you could find with decent feedback on the steam discussion board. I myself don't know of any good ones, but I don't doubt they're out there.

[neon gust]

If you have a class 5 you might wanna burn the cfoam and mines rather than place a sentry

[wooden osprey]

and dont have to worry so much about the enemy wave

[fleet vessel]

ye

[steel valley]

ok, lemme just give a quick ex

[elfin sparrow]

@flat rock Thanks mate 👍

[fleet vessel]

I can see that

[steel valley]

class 3 alarm

[wooden osprey]

if you have a vet team yes if you want dont even cfoam doors

[fleet vessel]

yeah

[steel valley]

1 cfoam + 1 mine = most guys dead with 30% tool usage

[neon gust]

sentries will waste more tool on bad way rather than permafoaming

[fleet vessel]

yes

[neon gust]

so comparing tool to cfoam its really bad

[elfin sparrow]

@steel valley You would put the mine INSIDE the door in that case right?

[fleet vessel]

ye

so they stack up outside the door and then come in

[steel valley]

placing a sentry outside + foam = 20% + whatever the sentry uses

[fleet vessel]

all at once

[steel valley]

will probably be much more

[elfin sparrow]

thats all I was asking

[steel valley]

yep

[elfin sparrow]

Does a door break down faster if more enemies are hitting it?

[fleet vessel]

hmm
honestly, never had a sentry use more than 20-40% during a II or III alarm, haven't tested it against IV that much yet, we usually place the sentries inside if IV or higher

also I think so

it would make sense

[neon gust]

nope, door health varies tho

[fleet vessel]

same way 4 players can break locks or doors much faster

[steel valley]

if it uses more than 10% it's less efficient which is the issue

plus there is no way that a sentry kills more with 10% than a mine on a cfoam door

[fleet vessel]

maybe it's stuff like 1-4 can hit it, but most of them will usually just bug behind the door

[neon gust]

exepct sniper sentry

[steel valley]

shhhh

[neon gust]

[flat rock]

Anything does more with 10% when the mine decides to kill nothing 👍

[fleet vessel]

that is true
however, in most ABC levels, unless the team is absolutely bad or only uses one single strategy, it should be fine
you usually get enough resources to do shit
there might be a few bad levels, true, and I can see it being a bad idea on resource heavy levels or D1/D2/E1

[steel valley]

it is how it is

[neon gust]

flashbacks of r3d1 super consistent ghost mines

[fleet vessel]

kekw

well, that's one end of the extreme

[wooden osprey]

not gonna lie i used the sniper sentry today and i love it

[steel valley]

i'm not saying you can't do it, i'm just saying there's no good reason to do it

[wooden osprey]

its just so good on killing waves behind a door

[fleet vessel]

and I'm saying unless you ONLY do it, there is no reason not do to it a few times

[flat rock]

Not that I'm aware of

[fleet vessel]

because it won't cost the run except for on a few resource heavy levels

[flat rock]

You can't do both still for A1

[fleet vessel]

maybe you can sync them really well?

[flat rock]

I'm pretty sure it's a mechanic change from R3, not a bug

What happens after finishing a terminal though with the other active is most definitely a bug however.

[fleet vessel]

what happens if you do that?

does it completely brek?

[flat rock]

Yes

[neon gust]

most likely an issue with how the game updates the objective

[flat rock]

No codes are displayed and the second terminal isn't finished

It just hard locks you

[neon gust]

specially in a level that have 2 different objectives

[flat rock]

You'd have to have near perfect alternating code inputs for the terminals

[fleet vessel]

you'd need to sync it really really well

yup

[flat rock]

And I still doubt it

[fleet vessel]

put code in at terminal one, get code vision on terminal 2 and put it in before 1 gives vision again

repeat

I doubt that's really all that possible

you might be able to pull it off if you have people that can work together REALLY well

and even then we don't know if it works correctly or bugs out in the end

[elfin sparrow]

Last question - is it 3 or 4 melees to kill a big guy that's asleep? We often only have 3 in the group

[neon gust]

3

[craggy pier]

^In the back

[neon gust]

3 to the back for big strikers
2 occiputs for big shooters

[fleet vessel]

in the occiput on the back

just have all 4 people hit it

or 3 people hit it with one person ready to hit too if needed

since if 3 people barely fail he'll stagger

[elfin sparrow]

we commonly only have 3 is why I ask - do they need to be occiput hits or just back?

[lament sparrow]

Just back

[neon gust]

back

[fleet vessel]

I think just back should be fine

[steel valley]

may as well have one guy go for occiput

[fleet vessel]

^

[steel valley]

in case the back multipliers don't work out perfectly

[elfin sparrow]

For sure - thanks very much all

[lament sparrow]

I think you can also 2 man big guys chaining staggers

[neon gust]

yep

[elfin sparrow]

without waking the room?

[neon gust]

yep

[fleet vessel]

ye

[elfin sparrow]

oh nice

[fleet vessel]

can't scream if it staggers

[steel valley]

if they are in the stagger animation they can't scream

[fleet vessel]

but if it's near something else

[steel valley]

just keep breaking limbs

[fleet vessel]

time it correctly or the other thing wakes up

so that's a problem

[elfin sparrow]

increased risk of something else noticing I guess?

[lament sparrow]

If the second person starts charging mid first person charge then the first person does another fully charged hit straight after first

[wooden osprey]

one head one body and one body

[lament sparrow]

takes a bit of practice and usually safer to get 3 on them

[wooden osprey]

its hard

but you can do it

[steel valley]

honestly not worth stagger 2manning until you've got exp

high risk and saves not much time

[elfin sparrow]

yeah I doubt we'll go for that any time soon but good to know!

[lament sparrow]

If all else fails Burst Cannon go brrrrr

[neon gust]

Dont be afraid to fail

thats the point of practice right

[fleet vessel]

if u have 2 big ones way close to each other

2 man stagger each

[elfin sparrow]

😂 Oh never fear we fail plenty

[neon gust]

just hop into B1 with your friends and go crazy on the giants

[fleet vessel]

that might be viable

otherwise bonk one, retreat and shoot second

[neon gust]

chain stagger all day

[lament sparrow]

You can always pull back after the second hit and just finish with minimal use of ammo

[elfin sparrow]

We cleared all the A missions but B1 has been tough

[flat rock]

Stagger chaining is pretty simple and highly important to learn

[wooden osprey]

bryan trust me thats normal

XD

[lament sparrow]

If you're really unsure

[wooden osprey]

for a new player because after A levels the game punches you in the face

[flat rock]

Cause it can save rooms from alerting

[wooden osprey]

and saids do this

without any help

its like jack in R7 saying wlecome to the family

[fleet vessel]

I think B1 is more fog and more giants than other things

when u get used to fog and/or giants it gets much easier

then just don't make mistakes

[wooden osprey]

because in B1 you really see 20% of GTFO

the real GTFO is E1

[lament sparrow]

The difficulties a little weird though, I found C1 easier than B1 & B3

[fleet vessel]

except for a few big dudes
big in the sense of advanced

[wooden osprey]

ya

[steel valley]

difficulty is more linear if you do pe/ext on every level

[fleet vessel]

lol

[steel valley]

c1 high is easy but the extreme sucks

[neon gust]

Its the rng

you either get a good terminal, or the clusterfuck thats the other

[elfin sparrow]

Getting used to the fog parts at the end of B1 has been where we are struggling

[fleet vessel]

A2 high is much easier than A1 high simply because 2 scans instead of 3 (except for the final bit, but that's really manageable)

[neon gust]

super badly design

[steel valley]

there is no good terminal cmv

[fleet vessel]

A2 PE is much much harder than A1 extreme tho

[steel valley]

got it once out of like 15 runs

[elfin sparrow]

We finally got through the alarm door by the last generator last night

[wooden osprey]

if you find another cell power you can go to the supply room

that i cant really type where it is

[elfin sparrow]

ah I wondered why there was another power cell on the map

[steel valley]

any level that has pe is probably going to be harder than the levels in its tier that only have ext

[elfin sparrow]

I figured it was in case you put one in the wrong gen lol

[wooden osprey]

no

[fleet vessel]

not possible

[elfin sparrow]

what is PE?

[steel valley]

prisoner efficiency

[wooden osprey]

.t sectors

[uneven gulch]

Sectors are a mechanic which adds optional objectives to the game, ranging from altering the game state to adding other objectives. The following sectors are available:
High (Main Sector)
Extreme (Second Sector)
Overload (Third Sector)
Prisoner efficiency (All three Sectors in the same run)

Multiple sectors can be completed at the same time. In order to unlock certain tiers you will need to satisfy their sector requirements.

[steel valley]

^

[elfin sparrow]

oh good lord

[wooden osprey]

welcome to the family bryan

[flat rock]

This actually is possible.

[lament sparrow]

A2s PE is only harder than A1 extreme because it has three objectives over two 😆

[neon gust]

its A1

[elfin sparrow]

haha I love this game

[wooden osprey]

and the first error door

[fleet vessel]

huh?

[fleet vessel]

that thing screws many beginner groups up

[wooden osprey]

ya

because they just dont know how tf to deal with it

[fleet vessel]

it's terribly easy to deal with, 3 strikers and one shooter every 20 or 30 seconds, but it screws up everyone who ain't used to it / understand it

[worn grove]

it is optional

[wooden osprey]

its like AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[lament sparrow]

Well yeah, I already had my rant about error doors - but if you just go in assuming you'll be dealing with 3 waves worth of enemies it's fine

[wooden osprey]

WHY ISN'T IT STOPING BOYS!

[fleet vessel]

hahaha

[wooden osprey]

BOYS WHY ARE THEY SPAWNING OH GOD

[fleet vessel]

:D

always fun to hear

[wooden osprey]

and they hear a scout go off

[fleet vessel]

ah yes

chaos

[wooden osprey]

and next min they see they failed

[fleet vessel]

oh man, sometimes the rooms are just tehre to screw with you

[flat rock]

You can put cells into the incorrect generators. You will get a prompt for the covered generators and once inserted you lose a cell.

[wooden osprey]

its the first part you see what is GTFO

and what makes gtfo gtfo

[worn grove]

R2C1 was really fun a loud mission no stealth

[wooden osprey]

because holy fuck is it chaos and hard

[fleet vessel]

u do error alarm and now have that active but then the next room has literally 30 sleepers and a scout and a newbie shoots a sleeper in the room by accident because error alarm sleeper was walking that direction

[wooden osprey]

i remmber comeing out of that and i was cheering for at least 2 days

[fleet vessel]

died to that twice now

[neon gust]

You meant r2c2

[wooden osprey]

and bragging that i did A2 pe

[fleet vessel]

[steel valley]

i miss r2c1

scout hell was fun

[worn grove]

probably its been a while

[neon gust]

sacrifice

[worn grove]

[neon gust]

what a classic level

[wooden osprey]

i dont know what nightmare was R2

but i know it was fun

[flat rock]

R2 really was only a nightmare because it was hard for the community skill tier

It wouldn't be all that hard going back to it now imo

[worn grove]

R2D1 no fog turbine in ceiling high fog with nutsacks

[steel valley]

r2c1 had scouts in every other room pretty much and ||shadow alarms, shadow blood doors, shadow uplinks||

was a good time

[wise thicket]

R2 was fun

[neon gust]

e1 be like:

want an error that scalates overtime at the last 20 min of the match with surge alarms???

[wooden osprey]

so D2 and C1 and E1 were the real GTFO in R2

and we never seen anything like that?

dam

[steel valley]

d2 honestly wasn't that hard

[worn grove]

R2E1 was "balanced"

[wooden osprey]

i heard it was

i never played it

[neon gust]

D1

[wooden osprey]

i joined at R4

sooo ya

[neon gust]

statistics

[steel valley]

r2d2 was just a very different playstyle than most people were used to

you had to zoom

[worn grove]

R3 was just about lore

[neon gust]

Getting the code on r2d2 was quite the adventure not gonna lie

[worn grove]

and fuck the neonate or neonite dunno but the pain to get it and just leave it

[wooden osprey]

and R4?

whats rundown 4 on the raster

roster*

idk i miss spelled that most likely

[steel valley]

my successful run on r2d2 we got that last fog code in with 4 secs left cause the one guy in the fog couldn't find the terminal

[neon gust]

R2D1 be like:

yo dawg i put fog inside the fog

[worn grove]

@wooden osprey well both tbh but this rundown is harder

[neon gust]

class 5 in gen cluster dawwgg

[wooden osprey]

sooo the most balanced rundown

[steel valley]

r2d1 is one of the most annoying levels of all time

cool idea

but wtf

[neon gust]

Horrible execution

[flat rock]

It was fantastic execution really

[neon gust]

r4 its a more balance r2

[worn grove]

^

[flat rock]

The point of it was to be ass

[steel valley]

well, if that was the intent, they passed with flying colors

[neon gust]

6 scouts and shit

[steel valley]

whatever sadist decided spitters in a full fog level was ok needs to get checked

[flat rock]

Idk why else you'd make stealthing zones with infectious fog and spitters

As well as enemies

[neon gust]

R2D1 in a nutshell: yeah lets just pull the room

[wooden osprey]

hey thats a room for B1 XD

[neon gust]

far from it

b1 its far more manageable

[wooden osprey]

oh god you mean it was worse than it is in B1?

[steel valley]

you didnt get a turbine

it was a full fog level with no turbine

[worn grove]

a lot of the people disagreed with rundown 2 saying it was too hard for the last 3 but i would say D1 and D2 were definitely balanced but E1

[wooden osprey]

AH GOD WHO SAID IT WAS A GOOD IDEA WTF

[neon gust]

R2 was iconic because it was an asshole

it got us traumatize for life thats why we cannot forget

[steel valley]

but hey, if you put in like 3 cells the fog goes to waist high yayyyyyyyyy

fuck that level

[flat rock]

B1 isn't even that bad tbh

[worn grove]

the sacrifice of the bio tracker i loved it and hated it

[flat rock]

Yes

[worn grove]

and there was like only 1 ammopack in each zone

[neon gust]

remember R2B4 haha.................ha

[wooden osprey]

well for new players its cursed

[neon gust]

septic am i right bois

best level right

[steel valley]

i still dream of that one tunnel

[flat rock]

It's 90% stealthing, and largely bigs so you get shit on for failing that

[wooden osprey]

black talk to me what happened in there

[steel valley]

you know the one i'm talking about

[worn grove]

Remember R2B1 11 security class alarm

[flat rock]

The one you could walk right around on the right LOL

[wooden osprey]

wait thats a thing

wtf

[worn grove]

then it was nerfer

[flat rock]

And not need to go though

[wooden osprey]

why dont we have that in R4!

[neon gust]

remember R2B2 the left side path after finishing the 4 scout room haha................ha

[steel valley]

the alarm door tho

the scans would fuck you over so hard

[flat rock]

It was C9 for B1

[neon gust]

class 9

[flat rock]

Pre nerf

Went to c7 after

[worn grove]

@neon gust are you sure

[neon gust]

yes

[worn grove]

wasnt it XI

[neon gust]

more than sure

[worn grove]

ah

[wooden osprey]

black dont get PTSD and tell me what happened in R2 B2 and B4

[flat rock]

Watch videos

[steel valley]

b2 was basically just r4b1 minus fog and triple the giants

[neon gust]

spitters

[worn grove]

thats why

[flat rock]

You'll understand

[neon gust]

lots of them

[wooden osprey]

are there some?

[neon gust]

so many of them you wouldnt comprehend

[flat rock]

There are plenty out there

[steel valley]

i think captain alpha has vidoes of every expedition

[wooden osprey]

well i go see what you guys had to play with

and what is really GTFO

[flat rock]

Except E1 heh

[wooden osprey]

in those days

[steel valley]

:(

we're working on it

[flat rock]

Cap needs to get on that E1 clear

Ik Mit lol you'll get it

[neon gust]

I remember alpha jumping trying to kite with the neonate in e_593

[lament sparrow]

Most of what makes alarms hard is the room design imo

[flat rock]

I remember circling around the cargo crates in the last alarm zone while my teammates extracted from R2E1

[neon gust]

well duh

[lament sparrow]

and when the trail decides to just yeet itself around the world

[flat rock]

And my hoarse as shit throat after we finished

[neon gust]

alarms with a single entrance are easy

[flat rock]

This isn't really questions anymore now is it lol

[steel valley]

i remember getting downed by my shotty sentry at the last second before we extracted cause i was kiting so the guys in extract could be safe

now my screenshot is tainted forever

[flat rock]

Kek

[wooden osprey]

i got you peace whats your fav level in R4

thats a question

[neon gust]

I took a burst sentry in E1

[wooden osprey]

and it keeps the conversation going XD

[neon gust]

my team burned me in a cross

[worn grove]

i would to tbh that's heresy

[wooden osprey]

BROTHER GET THE FLAMER..... THE HEAVY FLAMER

[worn grove]

YES BROTHER

[flat rock]

R4C3

Particularly PE

[wooden osprey]

hm

interesting

because i dont like that level a lot

for me its C2PE,d2 high,B3 PE

what about others?

[steel valley]

d2 high is boring imo

pe or its too easy

[flat rock]

@random tendon he deleted it, he said D2PE duo was his favorite level 🙂

[neon gust]

NONMONONON

[flat rock]

LOL

[neon gust]

BITCH

LMAOP

[worn grove]

R4E1 is my fav because its the only hard mission

[wooden osprey]

i enjoy high

[random tendon]

ah ha

[wooden osprey]

never said its easy or hard

[steel valley]

its too easy for me on just high

[random tendon]

this man here

[steel valley]

tons of resources with no real pressure whatsoever

[random tendon]

@neon gust u know what to do

[wooden osprey]

well im not a god at game so its good for me

[flat rock]

Bring sniper sentry?

[steel valley]

yeah its just my opinion

[neon gust]

COME ON MAN

[random tendon]

double sniper sentry

[worn grove]

[neon gust]

Bring sniper sentry for extra firepower

💪

[random tendon]

imma do auto sniper

for the meme run

[lament sparrow]

An auto sentry that has the damage of a sniper sentry 👀

[worn grove]

@random tendon Auto sentry best sentry

[random tendon]

@neon gust would like to know ur location

[neon gust]

Sniper sentry

best sentry

[random tendon]

here we go

[worn grove]

no

auto sentry

best sentry

[neon gust]

it can oneshot every small guy, 3 shot big guys

best kill per ammo

ammo efficient

[worn grove]

auto sentry can stun all enemies except bosses

[neon gust]

sniper sentry kills bosses

[worn grove]

auto sentry best for killing babies

[random tendon]

ah yes d2 babies

[dreamy sapphire]

What is the enemy in c3 extreme behind the lockdown door. I swear it was a shadow hybrid but apparently I was wrong

[spark wolf]

shadow giant

striker

there's 2

[dreamy sapphire]

Is there anything else

[spark wolf]

no

[dreamy sapphire]

I swear he was crouched over

Bruh

[spark wolf]

yeh

they can have the hybrid stance

and stagger animations

[dreamy sapphire]

Oh

That’s what it is

Thanks wesley

[weary relic]

Yeah. They have two stances normal giant and the Slav squat

Which the hybrids always have

[dreamy sapphire]

It’s weird how they gave the shadow variant an extra stance

Does that happen with any other shadows

I suppose it’s similar to the scouts height thing

[craggy pier]

I've had one shadow giant slouched to the side in C3 extreme once

[minor fractal]

Shadow titans, as well as the regular shadows, have 4 stances.

The "high" and "intermediate" stances which are used by strikers and shooters.

Been that way since R2, as well.

[pure hinge]

does the alarm stop once the door is open or once the scan is done? can we leave the door closed and finish off the finite enemies before opening the door or will they keep spawning until the door is open? thanks!

[flat rock]

Alarms stop once the scans are finished

So you can kill off before opening

[pure hinge]

thank you so much

[languid canopy]

what does the c in c foam stand for

[lilac fulcrum]

Construction

[vestal spade]

I need a dev AMA so I can ask why they had to make the mobs naruto run at me

This sasuke lookin mfer is too hard to hit

[craggy pier]

is there any place I can get a high quality version of the Gavell? The pictures on the wiki are extremely blurry

or at least lower quality than what I want

[prime cobalt]

How scarce are resources on B1?

We got a total of 1 two use ammopack, 1 two use tool refill, and 2 two use health packs

no it was just high

[dawn egret]

The disinfect room

After the alarm door, south of the blood door

It requires the 4th cell

And it has like

20 charges of everything

Other than that - pretty scarce, yeah

[prime cobalt]

Does Does the extreeme door have a continuous alarm or anything?

Awesome

Thanks guys

[muted lynx]

Are the security doors alarm door levels RNG?

[rare light]

no, the class is always the same

[muted lynx]

thank you!

[dawn egret]

The only variables in a level are 1. enemy spawns and 2. item locations/spawns

[muted lynx]

okay! thank you so much >.<

[proper pawn]

Is there any kind of modding that allows more than 4 players? I just recently picked up a bunch of copies for some new players, and it's a bit of a pain to set up separate teaching runs for all of them.

[neon gust]

read #faq

mods will be supported in the future

use discord streaming if your "teaching"

[humble marsh]

No

[proper pawn]

Ah well. C'est la vie.

[vital sierra]

how many posture do shadow striker have?

[minor fractal]

4

[vital sierra]

when they awake, do they move the same (walking like a shooter)?

or just like normal striker

[minor fractal]

They move according to their stance/posture

[vital sierra]

because i encounter so little about shadow

and hard to see

do they crouch down like the normal striker?

[minor fractal]

Normal strikers can do a lot of things

Shadow Stances (both sizes):
Naruto runner (high striker)
Gremlin runner (intermediate striker, used by hybrids)
Sassy shooter (high shooter)
Shy shooter (intermediate shooter)

[vital sierra]

now that's gonna be hard to gather data on how fast or slow they attack

since each gesture have different attack animation

and it's invisible

[wooden osprey]

i think the normal shadows are just normal striker but with invis

only big strikers are diff

because they faster

[vital sierra]

shadow is different from normal striker

they have different gesture

some have a shooter gesture like Rayalot mention

they run and attack like a shooter

but instead of shooting

they tongue you

shadow don't have "intimidation" mechanic like striker

since they're so slow, that mechanic must have been remove due to balance

and that's really dangerous when applied to giant shadow

they will not slow down or try to side step

after they targeted you, they will do their best to try and get close enough to tongue you

the only downside for shadow is the slow movement

[wooden osprey]

ya to be real even the scout has a striker head

not kidding i found that out in D2 PE

scouts dont have scout heads

they have striker heads

[vital sierra]

they have striker texture but shadow

[wooden osprey]

yep

all of them

[vital sierra]

it's like a big striker but move like a shooter

[minor fractal]

It's literally just a resized shadow striker

[vital sierra]

yup

but big head

[wooden osprey]

ye

thats why most ppl say the hit box is bad

[minor fractal]

It uses the scout stances as well (high and intermediate shooter).

[wooden osprey]

because its not the same as a scout

its a bit linner

[minor fractal]

It's also a bit taller than scouts, which can be a pain for non-host kills.

[wooden osprey]

ya

so you have to jump to kill it

always

[minor fractal]

Not always, depending on elevation you can go behind it, for intermediate shooter it also tends to dip its head lower, making it a viable hit.

[vital sierra]

i have a glitch where the shadow scout are half my size

i could post it in media

i didn't get close but the host did confirm the scout are shorter than normal

it could have been the tag being low but that's too low

[minor fractal]

If you don't shine your light at them their animations break.

Once you shine it at them they start doing what they should be.

[lament sparrow]

For duo when the scans split into 2 'big' scans should we separate 1 and 1 or both go on the first and then both go on the second, or does it not matter?

[vital sierra]

it doesn't matter much

but if you want

you can get 1 scan done and go for the other

[neon gust]

2 man until 50% one then split and go 1 and 1

[carmine thistle]

How much more difficult is it to play duo rather than a full squad?

[lament sparrow]

I've never played 4 man so idk

[neon gust]

Go play pubs to get the hang of the game and try to learn the game mechanics

lots of tutorials out there too!

[lament sparrow]

I've found it pretty fun strategising your loadout more for each level and we go in knowing that we probably won't be clearing stuff first time. You get more resources between you which is nice though

[neon gust]

duos are significanly harder than 4 man since you can only make mistakes ONCE

If your duo partner its down than thats 50% of the team

[lament sparrow]

Yeah I wouldn't say starting with duo is the way to play this since there's a lot of learning to do already

But we don't always have our 3rd man so it's a fun challenge to take on when we miss people

[fleet vessel]

so, how do spawns actually work during alarms?
Do they spawn 2 rooms away from the alarm objective (aka the terminal/door/etc)?
Do they spawn 2 rooms away from a randomly chosen player, similar to error alarms (which can spawn on top of players if they are 2 rooms away from each other, since for one player it's 2 rooms and for one it is not)?

[wooden osprey]

for alarms is on all players

[fleet vessel]

so, in some maps you can force the second or third enemy waves to spawn up to 4 rooms away by having a single person go 2 rooms away from the other 3 who do the scan?

[keen solar]

It's pretty pointless to do so because the first scan is always a team scan

But you're right

[dawn egret]

That concept may be more useful during uplinks

Where players may stand right outside the uplink room (via multiple dors)

[short cargo]

does c2 have shit performance or is it just me?

[weary relic]

It does

[neon gust]

try c3

[weary relic]

Lmao

[short cargo]

monkaS

[weary relic]

I mean C2 is bad cause it’s a large level and the scoots

[short cargo]

whenever i stare into the fog its like a powerpoint

anyway thank you

[weary relic]

[tiny iris]

In LFG, people often use PE as the difficulty. What exactly is PE?

[uneven gulch]

Sorry, unable to find a tag named sector.

[minor fractal]

.t sectors

[uneven gulch]

Sectors are a mechanic which adds optional objectives to the game, ranging from altering the game state to adding other objectives. The following sectors are available:
High (Main Sector)
Extreme (Second Sector)
Overload (Third Sector)
Prisoner efficiency (All three Sectors in the same run)

Multiple sectors can be completed at the same time. In order to unlock certain tiers you will need to satisfy their sector requirements.

[lament sparrow]

Prison Efficiency - Doing High, Extreme & Overload all in one run

[rough harness]

i'm unsure what im doing wrong for C3 PE, any team i play with fail the final run with at different points, we have 2 ammo packs, 2 med packs and ammo pack at spawn, but it still is not working. any tips

[worn grove]

@rough harness i couldn't tell you with that many resources you should complete it... if you have too make 1 player a sacrifice and run out the scan and try and take as many as possible, of course not running through them they are all chargers

[tender pollen]

Is there a (web) api of the game?

That is available for the public

[lilac fulcrum]

There is not an API for the game.

My first question would be, what would you want to get from the API and how would you use it?

[tender pollen]

Would there be any coming later on?

It would be cool to have a website to check out the amount of kills you made, deaths, completed runs

Specific to a user

You know those type of things like with LoL

[lilac fulcrum]

If we do create an API, it mostly likely would be private. It's something that I'd like to do so I can showcase different stats here in the discord.

[tender pollen]

Sure no problem :) was just wondering

Thanks

[lilac fulcrum]

you're welcome.

[frigid meadow]

how many shots with a burst cannon does it take to kill a scout?

[craggy pier]

Yes ||I think 4 shots, I'm not so sure||

[tidal quarry]

Yes

[weary mesa]

one head/back/backofhead, two infront

[wicked crater]

Does anyone know how to reduce desync in lobbies?

[vital sierra]

have a better connection to host

[next trench]

So gtfo starts and then it says that I don't have a network connection and I've restarted my game a couple of times and it still hasn't worked so what's up with that?

And I do have a network connection

[gilded jolt]

Something with steam

[next trench]

? What does thine person mean?

[gilded jolt]

"Looks like steam is having degraded performance on some of their Connection Managers" is what the CM is saying idk much about it

[next trench]

Oh alright thank you

[vital sierra]

Steam fault

[forest orbit]

The terminal in b3 made me enter the verification multiple times

did i screw up

how are you eve supposed to do that solo?

[gilded jolt]

Well you have to enter verification codes multiple times if thats what you mean

[vital sierra]

uplink_verify xxxx ( xxxx = code that is given ) and the code will appear on terminal screen as " give x08 code " and when you back out of the terminal, you will see some random code on hud which is include x08 code like x08 = YAWN

type in uplink_verify yawn for the correct code

[neon slate]

But the hud is only visible when you are out of the terminal

[vital sierra]

and when you back out of the terminal,

it will show about 6 - 8 codes on the hud

like x01= xxxx y05 = xxxx z08 = xxxx

just get the correct code and enter it in

[frigid meadow]

how many shots with a burst cannon to kill scout?

[rotund jasper]

ey which generator in B2 that drops the fog

[frigid meadow]

wdym?

there is only one generator i believe

[rotund jasper]

its a cluster

4 generators

so which one first, upped zone or lower zone

[frigid meadow]

ohhh

[noble sierra]

Front body: 3, back body: 2 head: 1, note that you need more if you're too far.

[frigid meadow]

each of the four lowers the fog by a little

[cyan elk]

How many shots do you need to kill the tank? (Specifically the one in C1)

(Should i ask this somewhere else?)

[gilded jolt]

Well it varies per weapon

Then add on that on each team there is multiple people using different weapons and it gets kinda complicated about how many it will take in a match

[wooden osprey]

i think its 2 in the head

[cyan elk]

So how about the combat shotgun (or 2) and a sniper?

[wooden osprey]

combat shotgun i dont think anyone tested it

[cyan elk]

My group is trying to do C1, and the tank is the main problem

[wooden osprey]

as in C1 you mine the asshole

put 7 to 9 mines above the door

you can stack them up there

and make the tank go in the lazer

easy

[gilded jolt]

But that is the boring way

[wooden osprey]

just yeet him

[wooden osprey]

and sates fining way

(if i spelled that right)

because you just see the tank drop

insta

[cyan elk]

nice

Yeah, that sounds good

[noble sierra]

Pretty sure 1 is sufficient even if fron the front.

[wooden osprey]

maybe i never tested one shot

you also know more

sooo i go with 1 because you know more than me in the game

🙂

[cyan elk]

is that almost guarantied to kill it?

and will others walk into the mines before we can kill it?

[wooden osprey]

7,8,9 yes its guarantied to kill

but for real

try to kill it in real way

[lilac fulcrum]

I really don't recommend using mines to kill the tank - you don't learn valuable skills.

[cyan elk]

ah

what else is there?

[wooden osprey]

try to kill it in real way

if you are good on ammo

just 2 on each side

[lament sparrow]

7-8 mines and C-foam in front yes, but you’ll encounter it later on and need to learn how to kill it properly

[wooden osprey]

back and front

and just go shooty shooty

on the blobs

and it dies

in 10 sec

if you do it right

thats the way to do it

without mines

[cyan elk]

problem is it kee[ps getting alerted

[cyan elk]

shotgun?

[gilded jolt]

Ye it will face whoever last shot it so just get people on both sides and shoot it back and forth

[noble sierra]

I think it's ok to mine cheese the tank in C1, there's a good level later you can freely practice killing as many tanks as you want.

[wooden osprey]

burst chockmod and combat

if his not faceing you shoot your smg at it

[cyan elk]

all three can work?

[wooden osprey]

and it faces you

so others can shoot it

[cyan elk]

burst cannon?

[wooden osprey]

burst cannon is the best to kill it

[lament sparrow]

Yeah burst cannon is great

[wooden osprey]

smg for agrow him to you

so others can shoot the blobs

[cyan elk]

so it wont attack?

[craggy pier]

I was able to kill tank with my revolver, though it takes A L O T of effort to aggro juggle it if it's your first time

[gilded jolt]

It will but you can hide behind stuff

[wooden osprey]

ya

we killed one at last with hammer at ||D2 finish line||

[craggy pier]

For C1, just use the mine cheese because the trickle spawns are annoying while fighting it

[lament sparrow]

It will, you need to just get used to how to dodge and pull aggro on it

[wooden osprey]

still fighting it in the real way gives you the feeling of HELL YA WE DID IT!

[cyan elk]

which levels would that be?

[wooden osprey]

||E1 and D2||

[cyan elk]

ah

[wooden osprey]

||E1 you going to fight a lot of them||

[cyan elk]

Ok, thanks

[wooden osprey]

have fun!

and also welcome to the gtfo family

brother!

[cyan elk]

This was very informative, thanks

[wooden osprey]

GL down there

[rotund jasper]

B2 do I have to do the upper one or bottom one first

[wooden osprey]

on?

PE

[rotund jasper]

extrem

[wooden osprey]

extreme its just high but with error alarm

so do extreme and than do high

[rotund jasper]

which one first

[wooden osprey]

extreme

[rotund jasper]

zone 86 or down one

[wooden osprey]

dosen't matter if you cleared the fog 86

its on you not us

if it was overload yes you need a guide for it

but for extreme just split to 2 groups

one killing error alarm sleepers

and 2 just going and clearing areas

[rotund jasper]

got it

[wooden osprey]

GL down there remmber center mass!

[keen solar]

If you wanna go easy, bottom first-> Insert 2 cells=> upper level=> find key and the cell=> Insert the cell => alarm door, like when you do high

[kind pier]

Can someone give me tips on how to finish R4A2 Overload? Me and my group just took an hour and a half to finish the high mission and immediately got killed when the error alarm alerted the first room behind the bulkhead door

[hidden mason]

@kind pier many tactics lead towards completion of this, but let's just call two.

• after doing the error alarm, have 3 people (one of them being the host) sit in the back of the level. 100% of the waves will spawn on them. Let the 4th kill the scouts

• after doing the error alarm, have 2 people (one of them being the host) defend the door from waves. Open the door right after you hear the growl of the wave. Let the other 2 go in and tell them to kill the scout ASAP (shoot it with sniper/choke mod / etc if you can)

[craggy pier]

A2's error alarm doesn't give off a sound cue

In A2 overload you're bound to alert at least one scout if you're lucky with the scout placement

[kind pier]

We tried to split up into 2s. 2 people wait in the room and stop the waves of 4 while another group of 2 would stealthily clear each room and figure out what we need to do. (The host was defending, and I was attacking with the biotracker) The room immediately got alarmed even though the error section spawned on the defenders and were relatively far. There were no scouts there but we died instantly and idk what I should’ve done

[hidden mason]

You are not bound to alert any scouts (see first technique) or (see 2nd technique) you will at most alert 1.

[hidden mason]

defenders used guns?

[kind pier]

No, they used their melees

No sprinting either

[hidden mason]

in that case it was a bad stealth

keep in mind the annoying waves spawn each 30 seconds xd

[kind pier]

Idk how tho. The entrance of the room had 2 free people, we killed them and then as we were walking to the other end of the room (there was a huge gap between us and the monsters) they woke up

[hidden mason]

if your stealth took too long they'll spawn in the scout room

you have about 20 seconds

[kind pier]

It happened during the first wave

They spawned on the defenders, I walked in and the entire room got alarmed

[lament sparrow]

You'll most likely trigger scouts. Set up a safe point at the start of the level - alert the scout, pull back, deal with the wave, then push through overload again (repeat the pull back to start if you trigger the second scout)

Overload is literally 2 rooms so once you've dealt with the initial onslaught of scout waves then you can do what you were doing (have 2 people scout ahead and 2 people wait behind)

[kind pier]

I don’t think there was a scout in the first room. Even when I was halfway through the room (I think) I didn’t see a single scout and even when we were getting attacked, no scout ever came

[lament sparrow]

or sorry, 3 rooms

[hidden mason]

well if a wave didn't wake them up it was the stealth group. in any case, if you shoot the scout it makes it easier. if you mess up both you're kinda dead with an A2 group

[craggy pier]

The two defenders should defend near the bulkhead door ||If you guys weren't doing it already||

[lament sparrow]

If you do high cleanly then you'll have so many resources going into it

so you can easily do 2 scout waves

(as long as they're staggered)

[hidden mason]

you would hear the sissing of the scout. if you don't it's kinda messed up, since the wave will probably spawn in the scout room then. hard to get past that room in 20 seconds.

[kind pier]

That’s what they did. I’m just confused how the room got alarmed because from my perspective there was no way we could’ve failed stealthily and the only explanation we had for it was the wave pissing them off

[lament sparrow]

Yes, the wave can spawn in front, break the door down and trigger the scout

which is where the forward people would call it and you just pull back to start

[hidden mason]

@kind pier you might want to try the strategy i used at B2 PE, which was similar to this. - after doing the error alarm, have 3 people (one of them being the host) sit in the back of the level. 100% of the waves will spawn on them. Let the 4th kill the scouts

[craggy pier]

If they spawn forward set up a chokepoint on the bulkhead door since the door funnels sleepers nicely

[hidden mason]

you will also have much less issues with killing scout waves.

[kind pier]

This all happened really quickly. The wave spawned on the defenders and then the room got alarmed

[lament sparrow]

I found if you trigger the scout it's pot luck if the scout wave spawns behind you or in front

which means you can get sandwiched from the alerted front room and the scout wave behind

[kind pier]

@hidden mason we r all really new to the game, i don’t think any of us r comfortable soloing a scout like that lol

[lament sparrow]

I'd say practice scout kills on A3

[hidden mason]

just shoot it then :p

[lament sparrow]

there's a guaranteed scout in the first two zones of it and learning to melee scouts is a very important skill

[hidden mason]

solo'ing a scout is actually easier than duo'ing it

[craggy pier]

In overload, you want to do things as quick as possible so forward spawns are less likely to happen, but when it does happen its just RNG being RNG

[hidden mason]

and besides, you got the time

[kind pier]

We c-foam them and then all of us rush it

[hidden mason]

guns reach up to 6 times as far as a cfoam shot

[lament sparrow]

If you do that just have the C-foam person kill the scout while the rest of you continue on with the room

[craggy pier]

Try practicing scouts solo, with foam first so you get comfortable meleeing one, then without foam

[kind pier]

If we shoot it then we will alert everything tho

[hidden mason]

and that is completely fine. you'll alert them sooner or later anyway

[lament sparrow]

You want to melee them 100%, but in overload since you have hardly any time to clear it then it's better to kill a scout by shooting and alert the room they're in than have the overload peeps trigger the scout and the room anyway

[kind pier]

I’m confused. In the first room of overload I never noticed a scout (hearing/seeing with the biotracker) when we were getting attacked we only died to the room that we were trying to stealth

[lament sparrow]

It'll be the second room

they spawn two rooms away

But if you're just dying to a normal room then idk what to tell you :^)

[craggy pier]

There's 2 scouts in A2 overload, you got lucky/unlucky that they spawned in the 2nd and/or 3rd room

[kind pier]

I just don’t know what we did wrong. The entire room seemed to get alarmed the instant the defenders started killing the wave

[lament sparrow]

Well if you were killing the wave right outside the bulkhead it could've just triggered them

[kind pier]

It was at the door across from the bulkhead

[lament sparrow]

Generally we ran back into the extreme a little bit and chased down the wave before moving forward through bulkhead

[craggy pier]

Its most likely the error spawns screaming when they entered the room the clearers were trying to clear

[lament sparrow]

Either way, if you're getting swarmed just pull back

[kind pier]

How far away does the wave have to be for it not to alarm the room?

[lament sparrow]

Since killing the overload waves are pretty easy

[craggy pier]

What we usually do is rush the zone if we can, if we trigger a scout or two, we pull back to the bulkhead door and funnel them there, if the scout wave spawned behind us we pull back farther or go back to overload room if we killed enough inside that room

The overload's first room is a good room to hammer kite in

[fast garden]

what are the best weapons to use? I just got the game.

[lament sparrow]

You just have to not panic and have points set up beforehand

They're all very good and situational

[craggy pier]

All of them are decent

It boils down to preference

[kind pier]

Hmm, we r not good enough to kill a huge room like that. We die a lot to much smaller rooms. I don’t even know what hammer kiting is

[craggy pier]

The specials have distinct roles

Try all the weapons out and find out what you like

[lament sparrow]

You just need to know if you're after dealing with big guys or normal waves, and if you can headshot consistently or not

[fast garden]

Thanks for letting my know guys . ima use the sniper i suppose

[lament sparrow]

Sniper is a big guy & scout killer, that's about it

and you suffer with a large lack of ammo

[craggy pier]

You shouldn't just hold your ground even though you're already getting swarmed, ya'll should be able to know when's the right time to reposition and run away to gain a bit of distance to be able to shoot again

[fast garden]

what guns are ammo efficient

[craggy pier]

The SMG is a reliable weapon, so is the AR

[lament sparrow]

Revolver is a very efficient secondary if you can headshot - 1 for 1 on any small guy.

[craggy pier]

Shotguns are an okay pick for newer people, chokemod has better range but shit ammo reserves and ammo per mag

[lament sparrow]

Machinegun is pretty good if you can do the 'tap' firing

[fast garden]

oh ok i see

[lament sparrow]

and burst cannon will kill big guys in almost 1 burst (I'd say it's better than sniper 9 times out of 10) - and kills in 1 burst from behind

[craggy pier]

Tap firing the MG wouldn't be that efficient anymore, it'll be better to burst fire it

2 bursts for burst cannon if you shoot it from the front

[lament sparrow]

but you can switch to your primary to finish them off

or you can have a teammate melee them on the stagger

[craggy pier]

||Haha burst cancel go brr||

Can't believe its still possible

[lament sparrow]

But yeah, just find what suits your playstyle and fits your teams comp

[craggy pier]

Also, if you attempt to use the MG remember, it has the worst recoil in the game so you will look at the ceiling firing just a few bullets

[lament sparrow]

It's way better to use weapons that you are best at than try swapping to something that you'll waste shots on anyway

[craggy pier]

Imagine if the sniper had 6 bullets in a mag and 6 in reserves

[wooden osprey]

that will be a bit op

[spark wolf]

burst cannon can be used to kill big enemies as efficient as the sniper

while it's also the best weapon to kill small enemies if you cancel the burst

[fleet vessel]

u have to aim well tho or recoil gonna screw u

and I feel like burst is still the best / one of the best weapons

[dreamy sapphire]

How does one do this

[spark wolf]

mostly by swapping whatever you're using

[lament temple]

i thought they fixed the burst cancel via weapon swap?

there’s still a way to cancel it, just didn’t think swapping weapons did that anymore

[vital sierra]

they're going to remove burst weapon

if this keep happening

[wise thicket]

R5- burst cannon loses the Rundown Specific tag

[vital sierra]

burst become semi weapon

damage got buff

but damage fall off got nerf

ammo nerf

[keen solar]

Just cannon

Bring a cannon into rundown

[wise thicket]

Just gun

[neon gust]

gun

[wise thicket]

Nug

[keen solar]

N

[wise thicket]

R1 MG when?

[lilac fulcrum]

if you try to burst cancel, the rounds you cancel inflict damage to you

[neon gust]

nice

[lilac fulcrum]

or would that be too cruel

[keen solar]

Suicidal cannon

[neon gust]

nah

that would be perfect

[wise thicket]

If you try to burst cannon cancel a shadow tank will spawn and one shot you and everyone else

[lament temple]

brilliant

sorry for the tag oops

[neon gust]

sniper with charge up

[lament temple]

that’s just a railgun

[wise thicket]

You mean the hel weapons

Hel rifle and gun

[neon gust]

nah

sniper with long charge up

[wise thicket]

Speaking of charge ups a guy was complaining about it

Said it was a dumb idea

[worn grove]

@neon gust I wouldn't mind it if it penetrated also burst cannon sniper hmmmmmmmmm

[wooden osprey]

got to love human kind

[neon gust]

Sniper with pen would be a little too broken

hel rifle was a good in between

[dawn egret]

Lol

They are going to give the sniper infinite penetration and then nerf its ammo down to 4 bulets

I want a sniper where you can pre-bend the bullet before firing... but I guess that would somewhat invalidate having to sneak your way into a large group of enemies just to alert them with the sniper

[lusty bramble]

Black Dragon thinks anything with penetration is broken because he runs support dmr

[craggy pier]

Smh

[weary relic]

depends on the gun, sniper pen prob would

mg pen def would

[craggy pier]

If MG has pen it would be THE BEST CC weapon

[lusty bramble]

Yeah blind fire penetration into an already horde weapon would be a bit much

But single fire shots that you have to line up is less of a bit much

[neon gust]

I love you

[craggy pier]

DMR pen when?

[lament sparrow]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[weary relic]

LMAO

DmR oNe ShOt WhEn

[craggy pier]

Burst DMR when?

[weary relic]

Suppressed rifle when

:)

[lament sparrow]

FlAmEtHrOwEr WhEn

[lusty bramble]

Freezethrower

[dawn egret]

An interesting concept that wouldn't be totally broken

Is a more realistic idea where

A bullet completely penetrates one target, but hits/lodges in the second

Which would cause full damage to the first, but stagger a second (and do less or "no" damage)

(Helping to separate the ones you are damaging and the ones behind them)

[eternal warren]

Flamethrower powered by fog when

[neon gust]

You got it!

[eternal warren]

How do you make game suggestions?

[wooden osprey]

you can use ?suggestion/?idea in the bot spam area to make one

[eternal warren]

Bless

Ty

[wooden osprey]

np

[craggy pier]

quick question is mother supposed to spawn in b3 with no door opened?

Like spawn babies?

Or just spawn in sleeping?

spawn in

fighting

as in we were walking around

it spawned somewhere randomly

loud noise

then hunted us

Which part of B3?

right after terminal

The zone where you get the key?

Or the one after the 2nd S1 scan?

Which is the blood door

no

not blood door

very early on

Before opening overload door?

yes

we were just doing high

Yea, someone's hacking

not extreme

There's no mother in B3 high

Unless I get corrected that is

fun

well fuck the guy that joined our lobby and hacked then ig

Its always a big F when people do hack in games

Best you can do is report them to @uneven gulch

unfortunately, absolutely no idea what their name is

That's an even bigger F

[flat rock]

Nah you're correct. Theres no mother in High.

[craggy pier]

well, wish i remember who the guy was

oh well

It would have been fine if everyone knows when someone's cheating and everyone's okay with it

Wouldn't help but laugh at the thought of clearing a room and a mother just goes "I'm 'bout to end this man's whole career"

yeah so basically what happened is we cleared the terminal part

where thers the fight back

and about a minute later there was a loud screech

and then we were just tryna find what to do next

and mid way through preparation i go why the fuck is there a mother

aand then since no one in our party has fought the mother, there was a lot of confusion on what the fuck was happening, and what to do

[gilded jolt]

Ye there is not supposed to be a mother there

[neon gust]

Did you went on overload by accident?

[craggy pier]

They only did high, from what I'm getting from his story

[exotic ember]

what 3 other people were in your lobby

[craggy pier]

Yes

unfortuantely

didnt realize there was a hacker until after

but dont know who they are

basically what happened was after we all died

1 guy left

and other 2 stayed

from what i know now, the guy that left was the hacker

but since we didnt know he was hacking

and we took like a 5 minute intermission

no idea who he was

[cyan elk]

What happens when you put a tool refill pack on a bio tracker?

My friend did that by accident and thought she saw a change in the bio scanner

[lilac fulcrum]

it doesn't do anything

[craggy pier]

You get 87% on your bio

Which doesn't do anything

[cyan elk]

Ah

But you still are able to use a refil on the bio for some reason?

[craggy pier]

Its not intended to be refilled but you can if you want

[azure dirge]

Sup folks, so I'm a bit on the fence about buying the game since I don't plan on having anyone I know to play with and I was just wondering what the experience is like for people who have been playing mostly/exclusively through this Discord? Are players understanding of a new player's lack of experience? Do randoms generally take the game seriously? Thanks for any responses in advance

[weary relic]

i want to use ALL the tool refill on bio

but they havent removed the two use cap on it

smh

*imaginary 67% even tho its infinite

[worn grove]

you need to keep that bad boi refilled

[weary relic]

exactly

[worn grove]

what would you do with no pings left smh

[weary relic]

jump off D2 bridge

[worn grove]

fair enough i would jump down the elevator hole

[neon gust]

Jus 2 min of pipe climbing!

[worn grove]

only a couple thousand meters down, commando role at the bottom perfectly fine

[dreamy sapphire]

Whenever you run bio just give yourself 2 tool refills so if anyone gives you tool it won’t be wasted

[gilded jolt]

Playing through lfg is pretty good, if you go in #lfg-beginners people won’t care about lack of skill and yeah a lot of people take it seriously

[azure dirge]

Oh nice, didn't even notice the beginners chat, figured it was just regions. Thanks!

Guess I'll buy it then

[muted socket]

how in the world to deal with blood door of c2? theres like 8 hybrids that just come pouring out of that door

[random locust]

machine guns

[muted socket]

what you mean the special 50 round machine gun?

[random locust]

eh thats just what I always used

burst cannons,shotguns are probably better

[muted socket]

tried shotguns but because theres so many, not that good of an idea

[random locust]

you have to try and keep them down the stairs

otherwise chaos

~2 players staying around the top of stairs and then the other 2 peek over the barriers and shoot into the door

[muted socket]

lol yeah, myself and the group noticed that.. they got out from the stairs and all hell broke loose

[random locust]

2 mines pointed into the door do quite well

[muted socket]

what center of the door?

aimed high I assume to hit the hybrid

[random locust]

as long as the mines point perpendicular to the door so the laser goes through it

the explosion acts like a cylindrical hitbox and can do a lot of damage to the ones behind the door

so the height of the mines does not really matter

[muted socket]

good to know, I thought the mines were a bit different on that

[spark wolf]

height does matter for bonus damage

mines can make use of weak spots

[random locust]

o really?

[spark wolf]

yes

[random locust]

I thought it would just be "if enemy in this hitbox deal X damage"

thats good to know

[spark wolf]

giants for example wont die from 2 low mines

but they will if you placed the mines on head level

[random locust]

ahh i always thought it was so reg sleepers didnt set of mines meant for giants

[dawn egret]

Both, really

[kind pier]

does anyone know how to silently kill the big guys without alarming the rest of the room only with 3 people

[spark wolf]

3 full charge from the back

but all 3 of you have to get the full back multiplier

which means you need to stack up right behind the giant

[kind pier]

ok, so we dont spread around the giant but just get behind it?

[spark wolf]

yes

[kind pier]

ok thx

[spark wolf]

you can have one person aim for the head

and then you'll definitely be good

[kind pier]

alright

[random locust]

also its good practice to start charging another hit incase it doesent die right away or something else wakes

[dawn egret]

Technically the back of the head has a higher multiplayer, to my knowledge... so if you can, try to hit him when he yawns

[minor fractal]

Head multiplier alone is worse than back multiplier on striker titans.

[dreamy relic]

head multiplier is the same as back multiplier

[dreamy relic]

also yes this is correct

[minor fractal]

No?

Head crit on striker titan is 1.5x

Back multi is always 2x at max.

[dreamy relic]

never heard of this at all

[noble sierra]

Head multiplier is different to each kind of sleepers, titan striker is only 50%.

[minor fractal]

Striker Titan is 1.5x
Shooter titan and Hybrid are 2x
Scout is 3x
Striker is 3x
Shooter is 5x

[dreamy relic]

damn mb i figured it would have STATED THIS on the wiki

but apparently it doesnt on the enemy pages

so fk me ig

[minor fractal]

Wiki is notoriously nervous (to put it lightly) about the fairly well substantiated data derived from FF.

[noble sierra]

Precision multiplier is also a thing that is not shown in the wiki.

[weary relic]

hard to test, but there are some solid numbers somewhere