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#gtfo-related-questions
tepid cave
worn grove
i live in the uk so western europe would be mine and not a lot of people are awake
mighty cape
i live in the uk so western europe would be mine and not a lot of people are awa...
I am, sadly
just wanna sleep but insomnia says no
lets go
lament sparrow
't an easy game to get into
There's a learning curve, but I find the skill ceiling to it is really high which is why I'm loving it. It doesn't really hold your hand, but it's fair for the most part (and some runs you'll just fail to not knowing what's going to happen when you do X unless you can adapt really well on the fly).
worn grove
like E1 just throws you into mayhem you have to adapt to the challenge
tepid cave
I see, so what's the point of the game, you go through the "raids" to get what exactly, stuff to upgrade your character?
lament sparrow
Nope, no upgrades or anything, it's more the satisfaction of beating a really hard level/game
tepid cave
hmm, how long usually can a "run" last, if you go through it first try
lament sparrow
Depends on how quick you can deal with rooms, when you start off you'll generally be slow and stealthy and can take you up to like an hour-hour and a half
worn grove
depends on the mission also
lament sparrow
yeah, I'd say it takes about 30mins - an hour per level average, then add on another 30 mins - an hour for each optional
But then you have speedrunners that put me to shame . _ .
But yeah, it's one of those games where you can just lose tons of progress to one little mistake if it cascades
worn grove
that game punishes you for mistakes which could easily down you or wipe your team
tepid cave
Is the lfg a good option or is this game more for groups that have been together for awhile
worn grove
this game is supposed to be played with a team
you can do mission solo tho
just harder 
mighty cape
Obv it's gonna be better with people you've known for a while, but that's the same with any game
lament sparrow
I dunno, I've only really played this game with two friends and I just do solo scout runs (and trying to clear A3 solo atm). I'm a little awkward with randos
tepid cave
lastly how demanding this this game (hardware wise)
lament sparrow
No idea on that I'm afraid : p
worn grove
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
MINIMUM:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 7 64-Bit or later
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K or AMD equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2 GB or AMD equivalent
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 15 GB available space
RECOMMENDED:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 10 64-Bit
Processor: Intel Core i7 4790K or AMD equivalent
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 or AMD equivalent
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 15 GB available space
just copied it from steam store page
tepid cave
alright appreciate the help
worn grove
no worries
uncut trench
@uneven gulch take away the code that allows the big guys the spawn directly with me at character spawn or i’ll take back my vote for Best Game You Suck At >:0
craggy pier
You could dm that to @uneven gulch
lilac fulcrum
You *could* dm that to <@!553357041586929704>
Please don't DM @uneven gulch game suggestions/feedback
#gtfo-game-suggestions is for game suggestions
craggy pier
Ah, my bad then
lilac fulcrum
🙂
drowsy laurel
my tier locks aren't visible, what exactly do you have to complete to move onto c levels?
gilded jolt
2 high 1 extreme
drowsy laurel
thank you 🙂
pearl sundial
I dont know where else to put it but how does this community tolerate slower disk drives such as Mechanical Hard Disks, aka Increased loading times?
wooden osprey
wdym by that im confused ):
pearl sundial
In other community's i have seen people not wanting to wait increased times to play when a player with lower hard drive read/write times, making the overall loading times longer
wooden osprey
no one cares about that in this community so no problem if you have lower hard drive read
distant ice
Always alt tab during loads kek
wooden osprey
as i know anyway
wooden osprey
In other community's i have seen people not wanting to wait increased times to p...
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wooden osprey
np
coral gale
What made the sleepers, sleepers ? What type of Virus or cause for these miners to turn into terrifying and horrifying creatures ?
distant ice
We don't know for a fact
wooden osprey
ya
lament sparrow
So I'm too shy to go on mic, what's the community like for people without mics? I've only really been running stuff solo when friends aren't on but I'd like to get an idea of what D tier has in store for us, so I need to do an Overload
coral gale
we think its an fungi
Fungi that's quite intriguing, fungi + human host = hates light. Sounds quite true, yet Stormpooper has a point
shrewd dirge
There were the rona logs, but they feel tongue in cheek
wooden osprey
as i said we think
there is some problems with it
but if they keep adding the lore of sleepers in we can find out for sure
or we call matpat
to do us the work
shrewd dirge
Try to get over your mic complex.
lament sparrow
That's not very helpful...
or rather, it doesn't answer the question. If going off what you said - community doesn't like mutes
wooden osprey
So I'm too shy to go on mic, what's the community like for people without mics? ...
the community is very nice to ppl that dont have mics
shrewd dirge
Most people expect some level of verbal communication.
However, there are some successes for mutes
shrewd dirge
If that came off as harsh, im sorry, that wasnt the intent.
lament sparrow
I get that communication is important in the game, and I wish you could ping enemies same way you can ping resources tbh, but I find it very tough to speak to randoms (I typed and deleted that very message multiple times before sending it).
I was just trying to gauge if I can find groups that won't get mad because one of them is silent
shrewd dirge
Just attempt to be transparent about your intents, and you wont have problems
wooden osprey
there is bad apples here and there ya
lament sparrow
So it's kind of pot luck then
wooden osprey
well if you have a mic try it just say i dont talk too much bc of reasons
and they agree most of the times
thats how i got talkative in this discord :?
(i never talk in any discord server)
maiden cypress
honestly if you make a lfg message saying that you don't have a mic then the people who join will be fine with it :>
shrewd dirge
^
lament sparrow
That's a fair point
maiden cypress
the lower the tier the more people'd want you to talk, but there'll always be people who are fine with mutes (:
lament sparrow
Maybe I'll try helping out in the beginner channel so I get a gist of where people are at skill level wise too, since I don't really know what people expect and I want to avoid toxicity
wooden osprey
Maybe I'll try helping out in the beginner channel so I get a gist of where peop...
if you see toxic players report them to mods as fast as you can
for them to get nuked
shrewd dirge
People expect to be notified if you discover key items, or to distribute resources.
maiden cypress
you can just chat for that
wooden osprey
ya
maiden cypress
there's an in game chat bro
neon gust
If its toxic leave the lobby, dont report, if theyre trolling or cheating then report
shrewd dirge
Didnt say you could not use text
neon gust
reporting its for those situation
lament sparrow
Yeah that makes sense
(to all of the above there)
Thanks for responding though all
distant ice
beginners isn't actually a good place for micless imo
veterans who know shit don't need as much communication, especially if everyone knows what they're doing
can go bulldozing straight zones without saying a thing
but overall static is probably the way to go for micless
worthy pollen
.t roadmap
uneven gulchBOT
You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap
worthy pollen
they still working on the game thinking about the next rundown
roadmap say rhe progression of the upcoming things and more things theyre working on to make the game lesve the early acess state
craggy pier
is there a setting that allows me to completely skip the intro and get directly to the rundown? It's cool and all, but I don't like having to do the "hold to skip" every time I want to play
No there isn't a setting for it
darn. thanks anyways
blissful sun
the intro is doubling as a loading screen
lilac fulcrum
We spent time working on and just released 4 levels to rundown 4 (the current rundown) as an extension. We're planning Rundown 5 and most of us are currently on holiday vacation. The roadmap page will be updated when we have it planned out and we'll communicate via #game-announcements when the roadmap is updated.
idle dome
@craggy pier maybe it can be turned off in the config files? not sure but some games have that
lilac fulcrum
<@456226577798135808> maybe it can be turned off in the config files? not sure b...
There is not
covert iris
can you play with other people in different regions or your own only?
distant ice
there are no region restrictions
covert iris
ah I see
craggy pier
<@456226577798135808> maybe it can be turned off in the config files? not sure b...
I see others replied that it can't, but thanks anyways
wooden osprey
someone asnwer fast where is suppose to be the first terminal massage for the guy that ran away
that yo can find it stuff in C3 and E1 (the massages)
keen python
So what now? Are we prisinor or are we only controlling them
neon gust
wait 1 months to find out!
wooden osprey
black i need answers
neon gust
black i need answers
R4 Log Locations:
A1: 35
A2: 44 / 109
A3: 28
B2: 89
B3: 126
C1: 78 / 311
C2: 12 / 55
C3: 322
D2: 97
E1: 461
dont thank me, thank @minor fractal
wooden osprey
R4 Log Locations:
A1: 35
A2: 44 / 109
A3: 28
B2: 89
B3: 126
C1: 78 / 311
C...
witch one is the story of our boy that i cant spell his name that saids we need to go deeper
minor fractal
First log is C1.
wooden osprey
ok i tough it was in A3 and i was confused when i saw it in C1
wooden osprey
First log is C1.
thanks
minor fractal
A3, B3, and C3 all have logs, but none of them are related to Schaeffer.
neon gust
Wanna know what fucking gets me when they put audio logs in terminals
when theres infectious fog and you have to have either a fog repeller or a turbine with you, making it harder to hear the audio log
distant ice
could just eat 99% infection and then listen to it, isn't it quieter that way
neon gust
Pls #keepaudiologsoutofinfectiousfog
distant ice
what gets me is that you have to stay in the terminal for the whole duration
neon gust
we can see literal holographics scans inside our brains
but we cannot hear an audio log
spark wolf
if you're infected there will be sounds from the infection
distant ice
well technically it's the terminal that's playing it
spark wolf
distant ice
sure could change it to download the log to whatever we have on us
vestal spade
Is there a best primary to pair with the burst canon?
harsh wadi
What does yellow "...://ext" mean in mission name (A3,B3 etc)?
soft kiln
extension
harsh wadi
And how is it different to "regular" mission?
minor fractal
R4 released with A1, A2, B1, B2, C1, C2, D1, and D2. A3, B3, C3, and E1 were all added with R4Ext.
soft kiln
because they were added during the rundown instead of having it at the start of rundown 4
minor fractal
^
soft kiln
different objectives different map
soft kiln
no
harsh wadi
thx
weak turtle
But there are some weapons more appropriate depending on level
craggy pier
Played R4C1 with 4 revolvers
soft kiln
+4 hel revolvers
minor fractal
Main weapons all serve about the same purpose with slight variations. Special weapons are highly specialized and are generally taken to fulfill particular roles.
Special weapons are also, at least for their purposes, stronger than main weapons.
neon gust
What people sre trying to say, bring a balance loadout
lusty bramble
There are a few high weapons that are outliers and are on par with special weapons in terms of role as opposed to raw damage output
The hel revolver and the auto pistol for example
neon gust
NITPICKING
lusty bramble
I'm hoping to see all main weapons take a similar role in the future
craggy pier
Ree
neon gust
BRING BALANCE LOADOUT
craggy pier
Primaries need to vary more in terms of utility rather than kill power
If that makes sense
Auto pistol and Hel rev are 2 good examples of it
lusty bramble
I could see high weapons doing more damage and have more overall presence
Just some weapons like the hel revolver or the auto serve to function differently
neon gust
To be frank the only weapons that feel the same are smg,pistol and ar
but if you can land consistent headshots and have some decent aim they all basically perform the same, when you miss its where you see the flaws
Hel revolver its broken imo
craggy pier
DMR could be shooter killer and still need 2 shots to kill a striker, and pistol could 1 shot headshot strikers medium range but need 2 shots for shooters in the same range
lusty bramble
I think they're going in a good direction with the hel revolver
craggy pier
Owopenetrating rounds go brr
lusty bramble
Hopefully they balance main weapons around the hel revolver rather than vice versa
neon gust
i see that been the case but even then the pen its too stronk
should be tone down to 2 or 3
craggy pier
Being able to wall bang when?
neon gust
^
lusty bramble
It doesn't have to be as high as it currently is, no
lusty bramble
I mean the lab has glass everywhere
craggy pier
^
lusty bramble
I don't see why we wouldn't be able to shoot it or through it
neon gust
Asumming its not some futuristic glass thats indestructible or something
grand mulch
When wall ball explodes can it alert slippers?
neon gust
yes
fading jungle
theirs a mask on steam backgrounds that i havent seen in the game
i have a picture of it but i cant send
anyone knows whos it for
craggy pier
It might be for ||REDACTED||
fading jungle
classic
inland sandal
I'm in A2 rn and I inserted the powercell into the wrong area. I finished exploring that area and it doesn't let me take out the powercell. Is there another powercell or is there nothing that I can do?
neon gust
There should be a couple of cells to compensate for that mistake in the previous zone, if you use them all then you'll have to finish the high objective only
flat rock
I'm in A2 rn and I inserted the powercell into the wrong area. I finished explor...
Like Black said, there are anti-softlock cells in each zone that requires one for entry, so find the cell in the zone you are in and you can bring it to the other zone you need to go into.
inland sandal
I opened an area called Zone 46 with the powercell and the area that I need to access is called Zone 45. So In Zone 46 I should be able to find another powercell?
flat rock
Yes
vestal spade
It will be easier for you to find a terminal and query the cell
frozen swift
ayo, what are the best tips for completing C3? I tried to do it duo with a friend and we couldn't hold enough fog repellents. Is it possible with less than 3-4 players? any tips and tricks would be greatly appreciated.
flat rock
It's possible yes, probable.. not so much
flat rock
Map knowledge would be essential before you get a clear, and good abilities to navigate through fog without repellers active would be helpful too.
minor fractal
The only main objective that can softlock currently is B1.
shrewd dirge
how would you go about soft locking it? does it involve extreme?
minor fractal
You start with three cells and have one additional cell in the first zone.
frozen swift
we were constantly at 98 infection
we were in there deep
but the spitters would down us in one go
and then the class three bulkhead door
we just didn't have the health
or the fog repellers to see
minor fractal
The objective requires three generators, extreme requires one generator, disinfection zone requires one generator
If you do extreme and then open the disinfection zone before finishing the main objective, you softlock.
frozen swift
are you talking about B1 or C3?
shrewd dirge
b1
shrewd dirge
you need to move quickly, is the only answer i can give you.
frozen swift
lol
minor fractal
C3's easy, alert the fog zones and only have one person eat 85%.
shrewd dirge
much faster than you currently are. also that^
frozen swift
we were just sprinting through the fog lol
neon gust
smartly
minor fractal
If your fog diver goes out of the fog periodically, they can degen back to 85% infection and regen back to 15% health
So they won't die to spitters
frozen swift
ahhh
minor fractal
Repellers can also be used to regen.
frozen swift
tru
yeah, you're able to jump up on the bulkhead door to regain health too
we did the fog area loud
and survived
but then we were both fog divers
and we didn't have enough crap for the bulkhead door
flat rock
If you do extreme and then open the disinfection zone before finishing the main ...
You basically cannot do this however if you progress through the level as intended. Each generator is directly in the path towards the disinfect zone, so you'd need to purposely not put a cell in to be in this position.
minor fractal
A small handful of people have done it on accident.
flat rock
Are you one of them? 😏
Kidding. I do see it as possible, but not probable to have happen
minor fractal
No, discovered the softlock while considering softlocking myself. Most people who softlock are exploring first and assume there will be enough cells.
flat rock
What difficulty tier are you playing at Killa: High only, High-Extreme, or PE
weak turtle
Here's a map of the 3rd terminal for B3, can someone who understands wave spawns tell me the possible locations for spawns based of players in these positions?
actually have to ask this in media
since I can't send images
spark wolf
waves from uplinks will always spawn in the zone that has the terminal
and it'll try to spawn 2 rooms away from players
weak turtle
I sent the picture in the media-and-fan-art channel, what letter room in the zone would they spawn?
weak turtle
so even though they arent 2 rooms away they can spawn in any of those zones, since there are no 2 rooms away locations within the zone?
weak turtle
so there would never be a zone with 4 or less rooms right, because then it would be completely cancelled?
spark wolf
the zone rule is the only full on requirement
they'll just spawn on top of you if you can take up all rooms
one of the zones is a triangle shaped zone with just 3 (maybe 4) rooms
where that'll happen
weak turtle
do they just materialize from thin air, and for zones that include the spawn, the spawn also counts as a room/spawnpoint right?
neon gust
are turrets good for the fog areas?
Yes they'are good you dont see well on fog but they can with ||somewhat|| decent accuracy
spark wolf
for the B3 uplinks, if you can't properly set up a door, just leave it open
they're small waves and it can be easier to just take them as they come in
weak turtle
so for regular alarmed doors its still a 2 rooms away preference but zone isn't taken into consideration
spark wolf
yes
weak turtle
that clears up a lot, we were preparing for them to all come through area A in our setup, and then blue said they spawned near him which was unexpected
but youre right that there wasnt a lot that spawned there because he was able to clear them up by himself while we fell back
and then once we fell back into C
the next wave spawned at A
i dont know how many spawn but it seems they spawn every 15 seconds until capped
weak turtle
what is the spawn cap? and how many do you have to kill to trigger a new set of spawns, say for an alarm door scenario?
spark wolf
we don't have any actual confirmation on spawn cap
but from experience i believe its 25
a wave will spawn if there's enough space within the cap for that wave to spawn
so for those uplinks they'd only stop spawning if there's 23 or more
weak turtle
and how much does an alarm door wave usually spawn
weak turtle
so if it spawns 15, you would theoretically have to kill 5 to trigger a new spawn
which is why cfoaming a wave off is pretty valuable in those cases, lets you avoid spawning a new wave of 15
spark wolf
for high class alarms yeh
the low class ones it doesn't matter much because there's still a timer
you could kill the wave instantly and it'll still take a while till it spawns another
weak turtle
so if we somehow wipe all 15 spawns within like 5 seconds ( or just enough to allow for another spawn ), but were still doing scans, there is a cooldown of maybe 20 seconds before it can spawn a new wave, thats good to know
spark wolf
yeh
no clue how long you actually have
and it might even differ from alarm to alarm
finite lion
best gunno to kill all zoomo in expeditionu-uno?
weak turtle
and it might even differ from alarm to alarm
so from what i can tell for the s1 alarm in b3, it took 1 min 40 secs to fully scan, and we had 3 distinct waves spawn, so about every 30 seconds there was a wave it seems?
but im not sure how the game decides to spawn hybrids, because it seems completely random chance and not guaranteed
for the bulkhead overload s1 scan we got 2 hybrids but for the one inside the objective we didnt get any
spark wolf
yeh
pretty much all alarms have some rng to what they end up spawning
most of your regular alarms will spawn 0-2 giants for example
weak turtle
can giants also spawn from scout waves now? because i believe that happened and ive never seen it before
spark wolf
that's been a thing for a while
it's just very rare
but maybe they increased the chances
weak turtle
the chance of not spawning any hybrids is a pretty game changing rng thing
eager blaze
Can someone explain what the end screen stuff mean after you complete a run
hard wasp
the evaluation? only the vitals and infection actually mean anything
other two are random
eager blaze
I was hoping the other two meant something
hard wasp
hopefully in the future
gleaming ravine
Is there any way to edit the controls for a controller. The crouch button is action2.. but there is no edit for a controller? I'm on an Xbox one controller
Hello all btw
craggy pier
You can rebind it in gamepad settings iirc
gleaming ravine
I am a new player and I am just sitting here trying to figure out how to edit controls lol
It is most difficult to play a game using a controller and keyboard just to crouch
craggy pier
I'm really not sure about it because I don't use a controller, hopefully someone that does come in
lilac fulcrum
gentle oracle
its right under keyboard and mouse mapping tho right?
lilac fulcrum
There is - under gamepad mapping
gleaming ravine
I'll launch and try again
But it would not allow me to edit the buttons
for a controller
gleaming ravine
The gamepad mapping do not allow for button config change
I literally cannot change the buttons at all
For a controller
timid glade
2 full rounds or more?
weary mesa
more
timid glade
dear god
weary mesa
2.5 from cfoam launcher
2 c-foam nades
Better to learn how to take aggro and have someone else hit his back
weary mesa
yea if you ping ammo and kill efficiently shouldn't be too big of a deal
timid glade
time sponge even
weary mesa
you can take him down in >10 seconds if coordinated enough
weak turtle
Are there any cases where its worth it to put a sentry outside of a door during alarm scans?
Like for alarms that take a while that you can defend with C-Foam, until you're done scanning its definitely not worth putting a turret outside since you'll just be letting waves spawn that would've normally not at cap. But for a short scan would it be worth it?
minor fractal
It can be, as it will thin them out a fair bit. It's not clear if it's an efficient use of tool, though.
weak turtle
but agreed that its definitely a waste in cases where you are guarding the door with cfoam anyway for a normal alarmed door?
distant ice
it is a waste in that case
only sniper sentry seems like it could give a better payoff than mines per tool refill if you're just looking to thin out the waves before they get to you
then again i've yet to get to actually testing whether it does penetrate, so i don't even know that
timid glade
Only place I think is worth it is b1 for b1 related scan reasons
weak turtle
the goal is to maximize tool usage, and limit unnecessary spawns. the biggest waste is killing a wave only to have it replaced when you could have just let it sit at cap
ALSO: I've heard people say that pointing the sentry at the door will cause it to be destroyed faster because it shoots at it, is that completely false?
distant ice
it is false
timid glade
on another note my sniper sentry just hit me for 80 in my solo run and downed me
this thing is cursed
weak turtle
does thinning out the wave behind a cfoam door slow down the rate at which they break the reinforcement?
minor fractal
No.
Difference between 1 enemy and 17 enemies is in the realm of 2 seconds for a door that takes 15 seconds to break, which doesn't seem significant.
weak turtle
and no way will any sentry take out the whole wave thats attempting to break down the door before another one arrives
vital sierra
on another note my sniper sentry just hit me for 80 in my solo run and downed me
sniper sentry deal more than just 80
it will 1 shot player
flat rock
friendly fire damage is reduced
It absolutely does 100-0 you.
I have it on recording, and Storm I have tested 30+ different times on both host and clients and it every time has 100-0'd them. It's rather consistent.
distant ice
i haven't tested in R4 yet thanks to my buddy being inactive but in previous rundowns ff was messed up on both sentries and mines
flat rock
I can agree with that, the sniper sentry in particular seems to be highly consistent however with damage.
distant ice
does it aim for the head on enemies?
simple test would be bodyshotting a scout from the front with it
if it doesn't die that means it's actually on 80
vital sierra
it doesn't unfortunate
blissful sun
that sentry would be better if the first shot didnt come out after 4 seconds
vital sierra
it shot wherever it want
flat rock
It does aim for head
It however doesn't always aim for the closest enemy, it may decide to target an enemy farther away instead of the intended target (such as a scout)
Or so I've noticed
distant ice
i'll see if i can get it to bodyshot a scout after work if i don't forget
flat rock
Also, just because it aims at head does not mean it won't hit body parts instead. It won't take into account arms moving around or the scout bending over, etc.
It can kill scouts though, I have had it happen a few times
distant ice
if it's on 80 getting even a little of the back mult will oneshot bodyshot
hs is of course instant kill
flat rock
I think damage to body with sniper is 60 for both the weapon itself and the sentry
I haven't cared enough to keep track of damage values this rundown though
distant ice
it's a trend for almost everyone who does testing these days
doubt it'd be as low as 60
flat rock
The weapon data spreadsheet states it is
distant ice
it doesn't even have the sniper sentry kek
flat rock
True lol
distant ice
i didn't mean sniper doesn't do 60, i meant sentry
flat rock
I was going off the assumption that sentry and the weapon itself does the same body
Actually, that would have been incorrect of me
Cause it wouldn't 100-0 then
distant ice
it could cause ff mult
vital sierra
why is sniper deal more damage on tank then sniper sentry
distant ice
precision mult exists
unique kettle
I doubt in hel revolver dmg in data spreadsheet. 16 dmg is higher than dmr but it cannot oneshot shooter 🤔
distant ice
precision mult
vital sierra
^
unique kettle
so it decrease instead ?
distant ice
well nobody ever said it can only increase hs damage 🤔
the actual revolver has a decreased mult as well
same goes for mg
probably others too but it wasn't obvious enough to notice without proper testing
and ain't nobody got time for that
blissful sun
without overpen rounds the HEL would be pretty worthless ngl
wooden osprey
still the HEL guns weren't ment to be good
distant ice
🤔 it'd still two-shot strikers and get 1 more kill per refill on them
wooden osprey
but this one is so lets hope they dont slap an nerf
distant ice
looks and feels and hipfires a lot better than dmr (subjective apart from the last point)
blissful sun
i still prefer the special rev
distant ice
but that's a special not a primary
blissful sun
Just more enjoyable popping heads and seeing them fall dead
wooden osprey
rev is better yes but remmber its an special so you cant really compare them
neon slate
It is true HEL revolver doesn't 1 shot HS the small strikers but it'd be insane if it did
If it were, then it'd definitely out do DMR on most of the damage & ammo efficiency department. Excluding range & ammo capacity between reloads
blissful sun
you gotta two tap with the HEL yea
neon rock
Hey I have a question. Is anyone else experiencing an insane amount of fog in B2 to the point that it's unplayable?? I'm wondering if it's just a bug or if the fog in this map is supposed to be this bad?
neon rock
In our game, every cell we put in the fog got worse
neon rock
Ooh okay
neon gust
Every cell lowers the fog from the top
.
distant ice
you just need to do bottom first and it'll be fine
neon rock
Okay we'll try that next game. Thanks a bunch
craggy pier
i was playing and melee'd a lock to break it
and suddenly a black blob appeared on my screen
lime lagoon
Hi. I saw that Revolver can oneshoot Scout. But I i tried many times and can`t kill him. Is it possible?
steel valley
Hi. I saw that Revolver can oneshoot Scout. But I i tried many times and can`t k...
only with back of head in effective range
lime lagoon
Oh, okay. Thanks!
dreamy sapphire
is that a glitch
Yeah it’s a bug with the liquid sceeen mechanic
dreamy sapphire
Yeah it just happens randomly
craggy pier
is the scary spooky thrilly music
supposed to stop when monsters are following u
im guessing it never stops until u get rid of the threat
cuz it kinda stopped after i ran really far and i was like oo they let me go
then they ambush me and i screamed and woke up my nephew
lime lagoon
Can you give some advices to hammer scouts? Most of time I can do it, but sometimes i fail
steel valley
don't try it when they are facing away
jump/aim higher then you think you might have to
cause the hammer swings in an arc
lime lagoon
Ahh, okay. Thanks!
craggy pier
Gauging when to charge while approaching a scout would also take a while to get used to
blissful sun
Moving instantly when its starts sucking the feelers in is a good time
lusty bramble
I always have better luck jumping when killing a scout just due to how the hammers arc works
neon gust
I love how sometimes with lag you jump past a scout and somehow still get the kill
distant ice
might not be lag and just hammer physics
i once turned 180 away from from a sleeping giant, swung to the other side, and hit him
neon gust
you already phase trough the scout but see on the corner of the screen a head splash
wacky hammers
blissful sun
Cpt alphas b2 run is a perfect example of lag scout killing
Just jumps through them but still gets the kill
distant ice
same as all other enemies? 🤔
presumably limb destruction (doesn't happen without death so) or damage
lusty bramble
Just a bit jarring to mishit a scout and it staggers instead of dies
distant ice
well that just means you did enough damage to stagger and not enough to kill, what else to say there
weary relic
About the “lag kill”
lusty bramble
^
neon gust
you think you killed him but it triggers
distant ice
kill marker?
weary relic
The hammer is literally traveling and actually you start the swing whilst going through the scoot. So it looks like you went through but to the hammer it’s not yet since it’s positioned behind the players head
neon gust
you just see this big massive bloop of darkness moving
weary relic
If that makes sense
lusty bramble
It's essentially just running your hammer into a scout then?
weary relic
Yep
lusty bramble
I'd think it's more about latency and how scouts proc
But that sounds more believeable
weary relic
I mean. There is the additional layer of latency as client
neon gust
kill marker?
I did not pay attention that time 
weary relic
But that’s..... you know how it is
distant ice
i actually forget if you're even guaranteed to get the kill marker if you're client
weary relic
But the hammer has a literal hitbox tied to the model. So when swinging it is positioned behind the player head allowing what looks like a lag kill
distant ice
think there was some baloney with that but it's been a long time
weary relic
Yeah. I can’t remember that too well
neon gust
Imagine if they change the sniper sentry lock on target
weary relic
To?
weary relic
Oh. The lock time
neon gust
its the lock on time + the fire rate
after initial shot its completly fine
but as long as that initial shot doesnt go of its just gonna sit there
neon gust
Use it !
weary mesa
sniper sentry on e1 extract 👀
neon gust
weary mesa
^
weary relic
I hate you
lusty bramble
The sniper sentry sort of function like the old shotgun sentry
weary mesa
: )
neon gust
i can see there for i do not need bio
lusty bramble
Shove it behind a door
neon gust
craggy pier
: ^ )
timid glade
Mines are life
lusty bramble
Black is skipping the biotracker
weary relic
weary mesa
Just look at the enemy : )
weary relic
More for me
neon gust
I do not need no read doritos on my enemy
weary relic
What I hate is the constant whining for call outs
weary mesa
read
timid glade
I'm also for not using bio when you know the level but people apperently use them in speedruns so what do I know
weary relic
You don’t need em ever. So 
neon gust
I have ascended so much in this game i only use my ears to track sleepers
craggy pier
What I hate is the constant whining for call outs
Just play no mic Bio guy, EZ
neon gust
bring 4 shotguns sentries
weary relic
Same ric
neon gust
bio bad
lusty bramble
It doesn't help that the audio is janky as shit
neon gust
it evolves, 4 auto sentries, the future its now old man
craggy pier
Hmm
weary relic
Monke
lusty bramble
I'm mokey
neon gust
neon gust
Nah man we sniper sentry now
neon gust
distant ice
Literally bio and mines for my duo group <:rotflmao:766706705199005726>
same whenever we can ditch foam
neon gust
make sure to kite infront oif my sniper sentry
distant ice
duo = bio and mines
weary relic
Oh. Yeah
weary mesa
I'd rather permafoam than permakite
craggy pier
Hmm
lusty bramble
Sniper sentry just gives me anxiety
weary mesa
double sentry so I can stand my ground
distant ice
kekw
neon gust
Sniper sentry just gives me anxiety
You give me anxiety 
weary mesa
feelsgood
weary relic
I didn’t start doing squads till late R2
lusty bramble
I'm talking beta - r4 days
weary relic
Lol
distant ice
i tested the sniper sentry today and it was the first time i took it
if the damn thing doesn't get its "initial shot" n shit, enemies just keep running through it
weary relic
I ducking hated SS even in R1
distant ice
it needs a straight 4-5 seconds to start shooting, if it loses sight, it resets
lusty bramble
The sniper sentry needs a huge pre setup to hit anything in a straight line
Use it like the shotgun and leave it behind doors or facing opposite of them
distant ice
that fact alone makes it seem rather useless to me
lusty bramble
Just hope you don't get glanced
distant ice
the shit radius in which it can target things doesn't help either
but that's for every sentry
lusty bramble
Sentries need a rework
neon gust
Ok so sniper sentry:
*1 shots all small dudes
*2 shots big charger from the back/3 shots them from the front
*Hilarious stagger on big dudes
Its a really good sentry but that initial shot needs to go off first before it does anything useful
lusty bramble
It also has damage peneration
weary relic
Not after one of the updates
neon gust
Its a really good sentry since it kind of doesnt waste ammo
weary relic
May have been a bug, not that they would tell us
distant ice
yeah and the spots where the initial shot can go off are very limiting
lusty bramble
It's actually the sentry with the highest damage efficiency
timid glade
I tried using it in e1 for very mixed results
I dont think it really ever gets a chance to shoot a single striker unless your fighting with it facing you
distant ice
and it never moves out of the detection radius or behind something
chances are it will
timid glade
Yep
distant ice
i find it really weird that that's how it works
lusty bramble
Yeah but so does 3 burst cannons
weary mesa
so does one revo
distant ice
good on them
weary mesa
dependent on extract
neon gust
Yeah but so does 3 burst cannons
Asumming you have ammo
lusty bramble
I thought you were talking about e1 extract
Burst sentry...
It's no longer the damage sentry...
neon gust
come on
burst sentry people always talk shit about it
first it was the stagger sentry
then its the damage sentry
make up your mind people
its a sentry, its shoots
craggy pier
Now its just a sentry
neon gust
put it down let it shoot
weary mesa
why make fun of me burst sentry 
lusty bramble
Can you talk shit about something that is already shit?
weary mesa
yea
craggy pier
Hel Sentry
lusty bramble
Mine deployer sentry
lusty bramble
The auto sentry is pretty great
neon gust
I mean its a sentry design for stagger, it just has to puke bullets in the general direction of the enemy
the others not so much
neon gust
burst sentry: needs more accuracy
shotgun sentry: doesn't benefit from the targeting of enemies
Sniper sentry" doest have priority on big guys
lusty bramble
Just wait until they add sentry overheat
neon gust
nah, if its the poster thing, i believe it could be a new empty animation
instead of the sentry just sitting in there with a red (buggy) or white light
lusty bramble
Could be neat
neon gust
so instead of that its just has the smoke coming out and aims up
craggy pier
Its probably just a sentry that ran out of 'mo
lusty bramble
But can't talk anything remotely related to it because my penis privileges will be removed
neon gust
A better indication that it ran out of ammo
lusty bramble
I'd rather have a smaller hud for the player who has the sentry
Let them know ammo without needing to be so close to it
craggy pier
Connect the hud of the sentry user to the sentry itself
timid glade
Is that really a problem? It makes sounds and everything
craggy pier
So when you place it, your entire hud moves to the sentry
lusty bramble
More info on your sentry is never a bad thing
timid glade
Dudes can't even be bothered to clean the dmr scope
weary mesa
Dmr will always be a worse revolver
distant ice
it's a primary
craggy pier
Lmao
lusty bramble
Support weapon 🤡
wooden osprey
I'd say the hel revolver is a better dmr
it is
blissful sun
@neon gust i take it back the DMR is pretty okay
neon gust
fair comparison, but even then yo revolver as fall off
lusty bramble
Nothing too considerable
neon gust
my dmr has hella range
distant ice
if hel rev didn't have penetration it'd be worse i think
neon gust
hel revolve rits busted man
lusty bramble
The penetration definitely makes the weapkn pretty great
timid glade
My only gripe with the dmr is that it shouldn't have low ammo and not one shot strikers
neon gust
hel rifle had 5 pen why this funky ass revolver has one
lusty bramble
Because they never balanced the hel weapons
neon gust
lusty bramble
Hel rifle
weary mesa
Hel gun was also great
distant ice
My only gripe with the dmr is that it shouldn't have low ammo and not one shot s...
16 per refill is plenty
neon gust
no charge up good reload decent ammo
lusty bramble
10 penetration
neon gust
primary
blissful sun
@neon gust also what sec do you recommend with a dmr
neon gust
hel revolver its broken
craggy pier
It does say in the description "Overpenetrating rounds"
neon gust
<@!550346217184428033> also what sec do you recommend with a dmr
whatever your team needs
lusty bramble
Just don't bring the dmr against chargers
neon gust
It *does* say in the description "Overpenetrating rounds"
more like breaking balance rounds
lusty bramble
More like forefrunting balance
craggy pier
But yes its pretty busted as a primary
lusty bramble
I hope more weapons are like the hel revolver
timid glade
I dont know why but most new players I watch on twitch use the dmr and revolver, I swear its like 80 percent of them
weary mesa
autopistol and revo is a good support loadout
lusty bramble
It's one of the better cqc load outs
neon gust
I dont know why but most new players I watch on twitch use the dmr and revolver,...
Becasue they come from other games wich they make those weapons really good
meanwhile gtfo its more team oriented
and so when they bring those weapons in they get dissapointed
lusty bramble
They could definitely balance the dmr around a one shot head shot
neon gust
needs more ammo
neon gust
so its combat shotty
craggy pier
Just give it a better scope and faster ROF so I can miss shots quicker
lusty bramble
Primaries need to be reworked
distant ice
it gets 16 per refill
neon gust
gib more bullet to dmr and better hip fire
distant ice
that's already more efficiency than you're gonna get with an auto
neon gust
thats all it needs
weary mesa
shotgun ROF
weary mesa
Maybe I don't like DMR cause it barely doesn't kill and my brain ape so kill matter
neon gust
Imagine having snapping aiming
craggy pier
Imagine knowing how to flick between headshots
weary relic
Autopistol meta
weary relic
Gross
neon gust
I ironically bring sniper sentry and dmr
timid glade
I really do love the autopistol
weary relic
Mayhaps
craggy pier
Whenever I'm asked to pick a sentry I cringe
weary relic
Auto, rev, bio is my life atm
weary relic
Shut
neon gust
timid glade
Autopistol machine gun makes me feel like the cc murdering God
lusty bramble
Sentries work better for sustains and scan holds
If you can have a player just perma foam across the map, sentries become a waste of tool
weary relic
Always have been
lusty bramble
😳
weary mesa
sadly
weary relic
Sentries are a noob trap
timid glade
Ehh
wooden osprey
Or for people who can’t kill
hehe auto sentry go brrrrr
weary mesa
that's cfoam tho
weary relic
What?
timid glade
Don't you mean biotracker
weary relic
You don’t know the origin story of the 4 foam meta
Bio you have no ez way of killing stuff
So you have to be competent to run it well
lusty bramble
Don't diss cfoam until you play with the Chad who tactical cfoam s
craggy pier
Me switching to bio constantly trying to find shit to tag
lusty bramble
monsters tagged
weary relic
Don’t cite the dark magic to me witch beep I was there when it was written
craggy pier
It takes me 2-3 tags before I tag a whole wave
lusty bramble
After they nerf kiting
timid glade
Gavel really is the best skin
weary mesa
never hopefully
timid glade
Its not even close
weary mesa
any hammer works
weary relic
I mean tbf
lusty bramble
Except the mallet takes up your entire fucking screen
neon gust
When are we getting a no gun option in loadout >:(
press 1
weary relic
Only like 10 people would use it
vestal spade
Gavel is really nice
wise thicket
Just dont take any weapons
timid glade
Gun only runs when hammers are the easy way out
vestal spade
Throw your loadout into the abyss at the beginning
weary relic
Literally 99% of my killing is done with hammer
The other 1 is specials, specifically on normal giants
Primaries are useless 
lusty bramble
Primaries aren't an issue BTW 🤡
weary mesa
Hammer useless just aim better 
blissful sun
Primaries do feel pretty lack luster
lusty bramble
The dmr doesn't one shot
weary relic
Mhm
lusty bramble
But the hammer does
lusty bramble
😉
weary relic
timid glade
Just kite everything and keep it at spawncap and you don't need gun or hammers bros
weary mesa
sadly
weary relic
Well yes. But actually no
craggy pier
Here we go again
weary relic
It’s only needed in like three levels
Ok four
R2 E1, D2, R3D1, R4D2
Otherwise you can just min max kill just fine
lusty bramble
Just alert all the mothers until the waves are so high that the enemy ai can't compute fast enough in e1
weary relic
This is true
lusty bramble
Easy level 😉
weary relic
Or cap four tanks 
lusty bramble
Why not both
weary mesa
boring
craggy pier
JuSt KiTe
lusty bramble
Boring 🤡
weary relic
I mean solo it’s one thing
craggy pier
ItS JuSt ChEeSInG ThE gAmE
weary relic
But squad I agree. Kiting squad is dumb
lusty bramble
There's a difference between kiting to move around a wave of sleepers
timid glade
Tbh when the game is getting cheap your allowed to be cheap back but don't do shit like exploit bugged spots
lusty bramble
And just running with like a headless chicken
I'm fine with kiting waves
Because some players just stand still like they became a sentry gun
Somehow they unlocked the tank class
weary mesa
I just stagger enemies or kill them and don't get hit
craggy pier
I just shit in place with my DMR Sniper and bio
weary relic
So you min max every single enemy triw
weary relic
Lmao
weary mesa
true
timid glade
Teammate also dies and make me feel bad if that happens tho
weary relic
Take away regen. Kiting will take a massive hit
blissful sun
1% warriors
timid glade
Everyone becomes more powerful at 20 life because the limiters are off
weary relic
Yep
timid glade
This game lets you be a 0 percent warrior
weary relic
I like having 40 personally. Just cause you can take basically any hit in the game
blissful sun
40 on alarms
craggy pier
Just make it so you regen at 10%, so if you get tongued you're dead
blissful sun
20 everywhere else
weary relic
Mhm
lusty bramble
I'd be more comfortable at 20 if it wasnt for whatever the fuck big striker tongues are on client side
weary relic
When it happen
lusty bramble
That just warps through multiple zones just to tongue you
weary relic
Or my host
timid glade
I was getting invisible dad bites on e1 today
weary relic
I’ve been sniped across zones solo before
timid glade
Yeah the Naruto running strikers that run through you are suffering
I'm not sure if its a bug or not anymore honestly
blissful sun
why are scouts so much easier to take out from the front 
every fuck up so far was when they just turn around randomly
why is my brain melting
blissful sun
please god no
timid glade
That sounds fun, how do you even kill an armored scout?
timid glade
4 sniper shots on the same point to punch through at the same time
blissful sun
one sure way to make it so i'll never kill a scout
is to make it killable from the back
timid glade
Then we'll deploy to get a special folded katana that one shots armored scouts through sheets of metal
Like a knife through butter
blissful sun
Plunger melee when
timid glade
With what he said its prob more related to the channel then us just talking in this channel
lusty bramble
It wasn't a related question nor answer
Just a shout out
But I guess we're in the same boat
lament sparrow
So is this a visual bug, desync or what? Has anyone ever had it where they've fired C-foam at a door, half of it has stuck and then the rest just shoots through the door and the door wasn't reinforced at all? We just had that happen to us and the few bugs here and there are starting to put one of my friends off the game
distant ice
None of the above, seems like a door hitbox thing
I'm not sure but could be about shooting foam in-between door panels
lament sparrow
The door wasn't destroyed, we shot it at the center of the door, half of it stuck in a clump and then any others we fired (we ended up trying the rest of our C-foam launcher which was about 40%) just went through the door entirely
Don't know if this was just unlucky, but we were pretty deep into D2 and it was a big feelsbad
rugged dock
when doing double melee kills on sleepers can you not wake up others on 2nd kill b/c i've had some sleepers right next to the second (or others farther away, but throbbing) and they don't wake up
distant ice
Sleepers don't react to those that are already alerted
flat rock
Don't know if this was just unlucky, but we were pretty deep into D2 and it was ...
My suggestion would be to spread out on the door where you are foaming, don't just foam in the same location for the full charge worth or repeated small blobs. It seems to have an issue when you repeatedly foam the same location on the door and it causes foam to go through. Also aiming at edges/corners seems to also help mitigate this from happening.
honest vector
What does this mean [1,0,-,-] on the Rundown?
dawn egret
The four spaces are for which objectives you completed
[Hard, Extreme, Overload, Prisoner Efficiency]
Prisoner Efficiency = All objectives in the same runthough
the dashes - mean that those options don't exist for that particular one
honest vector
Nice one mate cheers
sudden fossil
can tripmines damage doors?
noble sierra
If the door is damaged, mines will destroy the door, if the door is undamaged, the mine do nothing to the door.
Sounds weird, but thanks to Firecube's work you can find a video from Youtube named something like"GTFO mysterious door mechanics", explained and tested in detail.
dawn egret
Both doors and tripmines work in mysterious ways... you will be a much more efficient player if you learn both
bronze merlin
When I try to matchmake, after I find a lobby I just get 4 invite icons, its my firs time playing and have yet to find a match, could I be doing something wrong?
wooden osprey
do you press on host lobby?
wooden osprey
When I try to matchmake, after I find a lobby I just get 4 invite icons, its my ...
.
wooden osprey
in that case i am clueless
bronze merlin
in that case i am clueless
damn
fleet vessel
can confirm pretty much the same problem - it works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't.
On a side note, I had that before when trying to join someone else - we both tried steam invite code and joining friend match, both to no success.
The person I tried to join is korean, I am living in germany - I would not be surprised if a simple cross-region connection error bugs it out.
Matchmaking may find a match that is in another region and result in much the same error.
This is hypothetical, don't quote me on this. Just my personal observations.
fleet vessel
nice
might be a different lobby, might just be connection rng
who knows
good luck in your match ;)
exotic spoke
Real quick question. I'm aware that we do not know exactly when R4 will end, but is there any sort of estimate of how much longer it will be up for? I'd like to know so me and my friends can see how much time we have left on some levels.
neon gust
Every rundown last usually 3 months, 4 if they have holiday vacations
its been a month and a half since the release of r4
exotic spoke
So, considering this one started October 22nd, around Feb-March yeah.
Alright, thanks!
wooden osprey
if you mean this here you go https://indiefaq.com/guides/976-gtfo.html
if not im confused
elfin sparrow
Well first of all thank you! Possibly something a little more in-depth though? I thought I read that enemies will never spawn in the same room as the door with an alarm on it, but if you foam the entry door and put mines outside, then the enemies they kill will just respawn and keep beating on the door? Am I making that up?
neon gust
yes they will keep respawning if you kill a bunch of them
flat rock
Enemies always attempt to spawn 2 areas away from you, and yes killing a certain amount will cause more to spawn if certain criteria are met.
neon gust
^
You try to delay them without killing them as much as possible
for smaller alarm its not really recommended to use cfoam
cfoam its better reserve for more critical parts of the level
fleet vessel
it always felt like waves to me tho?
Aren't many alarms wave-based, aka if one wave is dead you have time to scan for a few seconds (depending on how fast the wave died) before a new one spawns?
they don't instantly all respawn, no?
flat rock
This plays into my criteria I mentioned earlier.
elfin sparrow
That makes sense - cheers! Is there anywhere I can go to read about this kind of thing? The wiki is pretty sparse. Also - we were specifically running into this toward the end of B1 - there's a door in a room full of fog with only one other point of entry to the room
flat rock
Wiki I believe is intentionally sparce as to allow players to naturally experience the game.
wooden osprey
That makes sense - cheers! Is there anywhere I can go to read about this kind of...
just play and learn
if you looking for guide vids you can ask
neon gust
If you meant the last door with the blood door alarm
wooden osprey
and we will answer
fleet vessel
you only really need to keep an eye on that in later levels, or am I wrong?
Like, in the A levels I really don't see a reason to not place a sentry on the outside of a foamed door as to shoot normal ones (depending on the type of alarm I'd do that in later levels too)
I do see it being useless against something like a Class IX or something, maybe from Class V onwards
steel valley
i mean, it just doesn't change much utilizing that sentry like that
wooden osprey
and we will answer
you guys are confused i dont even know what i said HAHAHAHA HAAHAHHA (someone kill me)
steel valley
you burn tons of tool and end up with very similar amounts of enemies
elfin sparrow
Was just curious - thanks for the responses
fleet vessel
you burn tons of tool and end up with very similar amounts of enemies
not in the early levels