There shouldn't be a specific order, you should be able to just go up to it and shove a cell in.
#gtfo-related-questions
minor fractal
craggy pier
^
minor fractal
If the generator has a faceplate on it, it's the wrong one and either the game gave it the wrong ID or you misread the IDs you provided.
craggy pier
Usually one of the generators you need are in z51, z53, and z54
minor fractal
Only the ones in your objective work.
verbal sky
ah okay
craggy pier
To find out where the generators you need are just query them on the terminal
minor fractal
The one in z51 (always the first one) you can ping if you're in z51.
open pecan
The GTFO AMA mentions something about a system of unlocking new weapons/upgrading current ones. The AMA was last year so I don't know if that still holds water but I'm curious if that's still coming.
The game is still in early access so I guess there's still a LOT more coming.
craggy pier
They're working on it still
open pecan
I coulda sworn GTFO was a completed game already but I guess not ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tiny drum
This ^^^
craggy pier
Pardon?
flat rock
I coulda sworn GTFO was a completed game already but I guess not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The game says "EARLY ACCESS" when you boot it up, idk how you got that impression.
craggy pier
Since when?
flat rock
it always has in the corner, bottom right
craggy pier
W H A T ?
flat rock
y
craggy pier
RIC UR DUM
I proved that long ago
flat rock
smh
worn flame
After finishing the last uplink terminal in B3, Is the wave endless? A couple friends and I just attempted it and it seemed to be nonstop enemies after the last one no matter how many we took out.
flat rock
Yes
worn flame
ok, thank you. Is there any kind of indication? We just kinda got blindsided by it and aren't sure if we are just dumb and missed something
flat rock
No indication. The game doesn't offer a lot of indications of what will happen next outside of alarms and such.
worn flame
okiedokie, thanks again
flat rock
The game asks you to use your intuition a lot and use of forethought of possibilities for scenarios that could happen rather than "hand-holding" so to speak you through the level.
It has mixed responses in terms of like vs dislike
worn flame
Im fine with it not letting us know, there is just a very high chance that the 3 of us missed it if there was one because we are kinda dumb sometimes lmao
flat rock
It does happen sometimes lol
modern vapor
If I leave sleepers far away near the beginning, will they also be alerted when the alarm goes off for a bulkhead?
fleet vessel
if they are far away no
you can only trigger sleeping enemies during an alarm by either gunfire (adjacent rooms might get triggered if the wrong direction is shot and a bullet goes through a door - especially if it accidentally hits an enemy kek)
or by the spawning enemies running at you and/or screaming
so i.e. you can leave all enemies alive in zone_32 (spawn) in A1 and do all alarms without ever triggering them, as all alarm spawns can at most spawn in the first room of zone_33
but if you leave something alive in said room in zone_33 I think there's a chance they can get triggered if you are extremely unlucky
vital sierra
how many damage does the tank deal when melee?
fleet vessel
is melee it hitting you with arms or it's tongue(s)
rotund jasper
40 for punch and 14 for lick
vital sierra
lick x3 tho
topaz anvil
Lick me more :(
desert marlin
I don't believe two tounges on the tank can target the same player?
thick briar
do giants really only hit for 14 now
minor fractal
tanks
If you're their only target, they can rapid-fire you. I've made the mistake of running through an open space to get by one before, pretty much constantly took damage.
fleet vessel
do giants really only hit for 14 now
giants hit for I think something around 30 with their tongues
at least it feels like upper 20 lower 30
atomic robin
with tongues they hit for 24, with melee they hit for 40
thick briar
oh ty the other dude made a typo then
quasi mica
What's the deal with controlling enemy wave spawns during an error alarm? For instance, on R4A3's overload bulkhead, we'd send in one guy to deal with the scouts and push forward while having 3 cover the entrance so error alarm wave enemies couldn't run in to alert the room. However, further in, those waves would spawn on top of us maybe 10% of the time no matter how we were positioned. I assume this is a bug, but it's almost always run ending.
gilded mist
It's rooms up ahead. They can spawn in them if possible. Not past bulkhead doors
minor fractal
What rooms are you occupying specifically? That shouldn't happen in the first zone.
gilded mist
SO if you go too far ahead it gets confused
But it shouldn't happen in the same room
Unless you are split apart more than 1 or two rooms
quasi mica
R4A3, past the overload bulkhead are 4 rooms. We've encountered it happening in rooms 2/3/4. All in different instances. I even have it recorded. I literally mean on TOP of us, not from a room before or after. Room 3 is very common. It's a very large room, so we started sending in 2 to discourage the game from spawning them like that.
gilded mist
Desync by chance? Was the game laggy?
minor fractal
You're spreading out too much, spawns are pretty random once you get into the second zone.
quasi mica
I don't recall any lag, but it was both before and after the latest hotfixes
gilded mist
Sounds like what Ray said you said you got a video?
minor fractal
Occupying at most two rooms which are adjacent at all times is the best solution, but you will still probably get forward spawns.
Also, if a wave spawns for the majority of error alarms there is a random chance it will spawn in the same place again.
quasi mica
Yeah I've got a video, let me cut and upload it
gilded mist
Thanks that will clear things up more. Hard to tell what's happening since there's a lot to take in
quasi mica
Anyone have a map of that mission? I can also draw on the map to show our holding positions
gilded mist
Your team was too far away
quasi mica
But why would they spawn so close to me?
gilded mist
It gets confused and prolly tries to go spawn closer to the player further ahead I guess. Probably so that the spawns arent manipulated to make em spawn several rooms away. If your team was closer it probably would spawn in the room that your team was standing in too
Then they wouldn't spawn on top of anyone
quasi mica
We actually encountered this same problem with 2 people in a room. Hell, they'd spawn in front of us, in line of sight.
craggy pier
They can hold the room right where the sector door is, a bit further away spawns will get fucky
gilded mist
Not sizes
Each room is split into the zone and letter
If you are in F and your team is in D then things might get a bit glitchy
Have them guarding the door to your room.
But not at the doorway just the entrance to their room. without actually going into the other room
Hopefully that helps but I do believe it's just to make sure that you don't manipulate the spawns and make the enemy spawn even further away from the furthest ahead player
quasi mica
It's difficult to tell what's a bug or a feature right now. At the very least, you must set people up to defend, to keep the spawning waves from alerting the sleeping rooms. It's not unusual for enemies to walk through a player and keep running because they're targeting a specific player further in. If they make it in, they'll alert the room. There's also no guarantee they won't spawn further in, in a room no one has entered yet, which is even worse. If this is not a bug, then I don't know what the developers intentions are. Do they intend for us to go loud immediately? I only recorded this instance, but this happened every single time no matter how we set up the player locations. We did finish it, but we had to go in knowing we were going to have to go loud because of this. It was critical for us to keep the last room's door intact for the hybrid wave spawn after the terminal activation.
gilded mist
Nah you time the spawns open the door as soon as enemies spawn, Use a sniper if you really are struggling to do it in stealth it is the overload so it's gonna be a bit harder.
The devs want you to stick together
I think anyway. Just try to stick together and pray for the best is all I can say
You really are too far away from your team though
Because I have done it and they don't spawn on top of us
Also use hammer on the enemies to stop them. If your team is going that far back to shoot the enemy with 3 players or even 1 you can just hammer them. Also avoid giving spoilers in the question please. Just put a spoiler tag over them.
spark wolf
it literally can't be intentional unless they're actually retarded
there's no reason to force a team to only take up 2 adjacent rooms
and it's incredibly easy to take up 3 in certain layouts where rooms are closely connected to eachother
there's clearly a problem with how those spawns work and I believe, and really hope, that devs are aware of that and are still wanting to improve that
no fucking way it can intentionally screw you like this
gilded mist
The problem is there yes. It is buggy but it is usually solved by sticking closer together and timing things
spark wolf
i can show you multiple room layouts in the current expeditions where taking up 3 rooms is possible while having everyone within a 10m radius
gilded mist
You mean so that it doesn't spawn on top of them.?
spark wolf
i mean that you can all be within 10m of eachother and still get fucked the way it works now
and i am still convinced it's not intentional that it works the way it works
gilded mist
It is buggy yes but how does that counter the problem the player is having with that. They need to make it better but I will be honest I have only had the enemies spawn close to me once during my play through of the entire rundown.
spark wolf
my point is that you should blame the game literally
not your team or your positioning
quasi mica
I love playing this game, there's nothing quite like it. Things like this are incredibly frustrating. As an Early Access game, we're play testers. It's very difficult to play or test a game when you don't know what rule set the game is playing by.
craggy pier
b2 is super fustrating because of this, guys spawn on top of scouts and scream. GG
spark wolf
enemies spawning on top of a player should straight up never happen no matter where they are
gilded mist
I am just giving suggestions to what could potentially sort this issue out for the time being. I don't think it should happen either obviously
quasi mica
If I mess up, or someone in my team messes up, fair enough. But if the game screws me 1 or 2 hours in and we wipe, I'm furious.
spark wolf
you sure can try to have it happen less by sticking closer together
quasi mica
Nah I'm with you Waits. Just trying to gather some info on what's going wrong and if it's not us, I'd love the devs to see it so they can address or fix it.
spark wolf
but it won't solve the problem entirely
and it makes playing the game so much more tedious
gilded mist
Yeah but have you got any sure fire solutions other than sticking together for the time being?
gilded mist
Ya
quasi mica
What's the best way to get that video to them?
spark wolf
they know about it
it just seems to not have a very high priority
which is weird because it can screw up an entire run by having someone get insta downed from the wave that spawned
weary mesa
b2 extreme or b3 extreme
quasi mica
We've been waiting on the fix since R4 dropped because it was getting us soft locked on supplies or killed in B2. We just said we'd wait and maybe they'd patch it.
gilded mist
I mean for the time being christmas is coming up and the dev team is small. I ain't gonna make a fuss about it right now but you got a point Wesley. Could be a difficult issue to solve but it won't get solved unless it is made clear.
eternal vine
I have a question:
We just did R4B3 and after finishing the third uplink it kept spawning waves on us (we heard the distant roar 2-3 times after finishing the uplink and then we died because of the seemingly endless waves).
We definetly typed in the last password successfully.
Is this a bug or did we just oversee something because of the hectic situation?
spark wolf
very often, completing an objective causes an alarm to go off until you've extracted
you were supposed to run and "GTFO" basically
eternal vine
alright, that's basically my question ... we might just have overseen that because everyone was fighting and waves kept coming
so next time ... we gotta finish the extreme objective first as well, if we don't get the chance to do that after doing all three uplinks 😄
thanks
gilded mist
Yeah don't do the main objective first if the main objective ever has an objective that would finish before extract as a safety precaution.
random locust
do yall know what the DE etc is on the hel rev?
eternal vine
Yeah, we didn't know there was an endless-waves-trigger after finishing uplink 3.
We learned it the hard way. :P
That's part of the game tho. 😄
rugged dock
Anyone know the best map to practice scout kills that you can get to solo?
astral wasp
what does prisoner efficiency mean?
lilac fulcrum
.t sectors
uneven gulchBOT
Sectors are a mechanic which adds optional objectives to the game, ranging from altering the game state to adding other objectives. The following sectors are available:
High (Main Sector)
Extreme (Second Sector)
Overload (Third Sector)
Prisoner efficiency (All three Sectors in the same run)
Multiple sectors can be completed at the same time. In order to unlock certain tiers you will need to satisfy their sector requirements.
astral wasp
epic thx doc
wind bay
So A1 extreme how do we stop the alarm after verifying?
worthy pollen
did you completed the 3 verifications ? typing the command and the correct code
wind bay
Huh?
gilded jolt
Did you finish the uplink
worthy pollen
or did you still could see a list of words on the screen
craggy pier
You have to verify the right code
wind bay
List of words
worthy pollen
then u needed to verify next code
wind bay
So what’s that mean I type those codes into the terminal?
spark wolf
Your team (or you if you exit the terminal) will see something in the following format on their screen:
Y05: TEAR - Z01: HALO - X08: COIN
If the public key you got was X08, you'd use UPLINK_VERIFY COIN
lament temple
finish 3 of those and it'll say on the terminal that you're successful and the alarm should stop
craggy pier
Flashbacks to when I played with Chickfila and typed 'UPLINK_CONNECT (CODE)'
modern vapor
Subway and I didn't know what we are doing (Got this game just yesterday, have only completed A1 so far) so when the alarm went off on the terminal we panicked and started running looking for what to do LOL
We only just got a third person to play with today
raw crane
For sniping scouts, assuming you meet all other conditions (far enough away, in another room) can killing them nearby another sleeper wake them?
weary mesa
yes
there is a small radius around any type of sleeper that if killed, one (or multiple) next to it will wake up no matter what
dreamy sapphire
Like when you hit one really close to another and it automatically wakes up
Not like when one is glowing 10 m away that wakes up
wooden osprey
soooooo if i dont have an photo of the bug it self but i have a photo of where it happened what do i do?
lilac fulcrum
Submit with as much detail as possible
wooden osprey
sooo there is an door at B3 overload that all the enemys gets trap between it and the stairs
363 area
i dont have the photo of enemys being stuck in it
because slow brain
but i have photos of the loc of the door
enemys stuck amout: all the S1 scan for the blood door
aka enemy cap
wooden osprey
Submit with as much detail as possible
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quick jewel
new here...is there a way to choose which character to play as? or is it random each time?
wooden osprey
its based on when you join
wooden osprey
new here...is there a way to choose which character to play as? or is it random ...
.
quick jewel
ahh cool
fleet vessel
4th player will always be the 4th chara
at least currently
altho I find customisation unlikely
wooden osprey
you say that as they adding customization to the game lol
neon slate
They did mention that during their roadmap right?
atomic robin
they do have that on the roadmap, so it is planned, we'll see when it comes
twin ridge
If I start a terminal uplink and then someone starts a door scan, does that spawn 2 waves?
atomic robin
id say probably, maybe not at the same time, but youd definitly have to deal with 2 waves worth of sleepers overall
twin ridge
Well, someone did that last night and sure fuckin' felt like it. We wiped almost instantly
atomic robin
kek, i know waves can queue behind one another if there are too many enemies, so im going off on the assumption that either the two alarms spawn seperatly at the same time, or one after another timed
minor fractal
Why would you even do that?
twin ridge
Probably randumb just doing what randumbs do
minor fractal
Intriguing.
twin ridge
I don't pretend to know what was going through his head
neon gust
game will just spawn stuff until spawn cap
until alarm and uplinks are done
thats mostly it
the only time it queues up afaik, its the reactor level on e1 and or scout waves (big maybe)
atomic robin
probably the assumption that since a wave has already spawned, another one wont, so youll only have to deal with one wave while getting two objectives done at the same time, which as you can tell from experience, is entirely false
twin ridge
All I know is that almost instantly they were through 2 c foamed doors and killed us all very very quickly
radiant herald
Is there a difference between red and green glowsticks? Other than colour of course
twin ridge
Some say the green ones are easier to see through
atomic robin
its only aesthetics @radiant herald
radiant herald
Thank ye kindly
dreamy plume
hey guys, me and my squad are planning to do a PE level to unlock E1, anyone know which level is the the "easiest" to do it?
gentle oracle
A2 OR A3
shrewd dirge
A2 or a3 are roughly the same
gentle oracle
i think a3 might be a bit easier?
shrewd dirge
As pointman, i had to haul less ass in a3
shrewd dirge
Do the high bulkhead scan before the terminal command for an easier time
Dont open the bulkhead tho
dreamy plume
thats nice to know
thanks for the tip
I believe PE can be quite frustrating, and we dont want to spend too much time trying to do it
shrewd dirge
Make sure to clear the overload rooms before doing the high alarm tho
dreamy plume
Make sure to clear the overload rooms before doing the high alarm tho
for a3 you say?
shrewd dirge
Yes
shrewd dirge
A3 is slightly longer than a2 pe
dreamy plume
so i wound't know
dreamy plume
better to be longer and a little bit easier i suppose
dreamy plume
Only longer because of the osips
yhea those can take some time
shrewd dirge
You get the benefit of not having to do extrrleme under err for a3
dreamy plume
an error alarm right at the start is kinda
rough
dreamy plume
didnt do the overload for a2 yet
shrewd dirge
A2, you need to have brisk pace so the scouts dont go off
A3 can be done much slower
dreamy plume
lots of scouts in the overload section than?
dreamy plume
my team can handle the stealth part quite well
we were worried for the amount of alarms and resources
feral hamlet
are you able to ping resources without being on a terminal?
dreamy plume
scroll wheel
feral hamlet
thanks
twin ridge
If a player in zone 49 wakes up some sleepers, do they track a player if he's in zone 50?
gilded jolt
Yea
desert falcon
yes, all players are being tracked
gilded jolt
I don’t think anyone can lose your position once they are awake
twin ridge
I thought so
Kinda feel like they should go back to sleep after taking out the players in the zone
You know, threat dealt with?
gilded jolt
Eh
twin ridge
I could see that adding another element to the game, like now you have to go in there to get your buddy, who may or may not be surrounded by sleepers
jagged basin
probably planned for the future
twin ridge
Doesn't seem like it's on the roadmap
Guess I could make a suggestion, got a whole host of ideas related to this
humble marsh
I don't see how you've concluded this
humble marsh
feral hamlet
will a sleeper wake up if you throw a glowstick at it?
humble marsh
no
jaunty laurel
quick question. for security alarms, do enemy's spawn from different zones? or will they spawn in the same zone your in?
sudden fossil
/\ or could they spawn in a location that you previously cleared?
neon gust
They can spawn anywhere as long as its 2 rooms away
Or whatever the game considers two rooms
jaunty laurel
👌
elder dune
@balmy magnet can we get some elevator music in the rundown screen
dire pecan
play your own through Spotify
noble grove
any good tutorial on kiting?
I can't seem to outrun enemies, let alone dodge the tongues
and ive seen it done so i must be missing something
i have sprint on toggle
strafing just slows me down
random locust
strikers can hit you if you dont parkour around
vital sierra
try running on the side of the striker
Being on their left/right, you get hit less than straight through
- jumping
craggy pier
what does the syringe thingy do
also why is there a "disable syringe" option in the gameplay settings 😳
weary relic
That disables the needle on it
craggy pier
so the animation is the same without a needle, or..?
weary relic
The yellow gives you about a 3-4x melee boost momentarily, and the Red gives you about 12 hp, random, and both give some infection
same animation
craggy pier
interesting
random locust
yellow syringe lets you solo giants from behind at full hammer
craggy pier
I mean, mostly. I'm only on A2, but I've seen a lot of youtube and such.
my wifi turns off in a little bit under an hour (parents hate me staying up late), so I wanted to know if I could feasibly finish A2 before then
random locust
A2 high easily if you do it in 1 run
thick briar
a2 high is a 20 minute mission
static remnant
Are all error alarms the same (4 sleepers every 30 sec, i think)?
random locust
no
weary relic
Some are more fun, and can also have more or less enemies, faster or slower timers
static remnant
oh, that i didn't know.. anyways, thanks for the information.
modern fiber
Different enemy types as well
keen solar
The only one
tiny drum
ominous fore shadowing to getting murdered by whatever in one of my security scans in the future
keen solar
Going back to C1 and D2 and watching the players cheesing that enemy is painful
neon gust
He means the mine strat on tank
distant ice
well it is cheap
vital sierra
unless you used 1 mine and somehow kill it
vital sierra
i somehow found a way to do it on the side
but that's not really good for that particular level
distant ice
they made an enemy that's ultra weak to explosions and it gets blown up
surprised pikachu
atomic robin
hitboxes are buggy, mines can be made reliable
neon gust
I mean why using 80% tool its cheese
thats like saying using sniper sentry to get damage on the back of tank its cheese
your just using hella tool
neon gust
also its just smart use of mines
vital sierra
that's just confused me
it's like everything become a cheese
next thing i know that people saying shooting is cheese
neon gust
the excuse of not fighting it the intended way its just kinda bad, people seen he had postules in the back, people tought "oh maybe i can get him with mines to hit him", it just show been clever with the tools we have
thats like saying permafoam its bad, your using 80% tool on a door
to hold an alarm
and thats 99% reserve for big alarms too so its situational as hell
atomic robin
the current definition of cheese seems to be "anything that makes the game easier"
which is bad
neon gust
cheese spots, ok that makes sense
atomic robin
not a good definition
neon gust
but all of this nonsense its just well, nonsense
vital sierra
unkillable spot = cheese
running in circle = kinda cheese
but you still get hit
that strat make the person doing it become a living bait
atomic robin
we honestly need a uniform definition of cheese for this game, more than just "making the game easier"
dreamy relic
I like cheese its good
vital sierra
those are cheese to me
atomic robin
insta killing shouldn't really be cheese either
dreamy relic
I havent really found any cheesey spots tho tbh
atomic robin
because for example, in C1 you can sneak behind the tank while one person holds off the waves, foam the tank, then shoot it
vital sierra
still not instakill tho
dreamy relic
Yea but thats the game i dont get how its cheese
vital sierra
place 1 mine and kill it
atomic robin
that's called a God mine
i wouldn't call it cheese either, just the perfect mine placement
dreamy relic
Tho i dont know how the tank doesnt aggro when the door opens from the shooting outside from the hoard of enemies
Like thats my experience
atomic robin
sound barriers I'd guess
dreamy relic
Is there a way to not cause it? Cause it ran the second the door opened
atomic robin
pic up any sentry that's down
sentry fire wakes up enemies
mines exploding wakes up enemies
don't run at it
dreamy relic
Hmm
vital sierra
1 mine that kill a tank?
atomic robin
1 mine that can kill a tank is a god mine
vital sierra
i think the mine damage already capped
keen solar
If you are lucky
vital sierra
so you can't get to a certain amount of damage with just 1 mine
like with birther
at least 7 mines to kill her
and not 100% kill her
wooden osprey
1 mine that can kill a tank is a god mine
agreed
keen solar
I mean, at the end, people need to learn how to kill a tank with gun. Killing tank with mines on C1 and D2 will be a big punishment in the future (like E1). I am not going to give them a tutorial for “how to kill Tank in 10 seconds” on E1 when it should be common knowledge from the previous level
keen solar
Ah I mean C1
wooden osprey
me too
with burst cannons you can kill it fast
but idk how to kill it in 10 sec gezzz
dreamy relic
Probably cfoam and then unload into the back while its frozen
tiny drum
trying to get good, how do i solo A1 class II secure door?
i just died doing a run with mines and they seemed to only slow the inevitable
but then again thats all anything will do but still
i wasn't able to get the scans done before i was overwhelmed
dreamy sapphire
did you get upstairs or downstairs scans
you can usually find a cfoam trip mine it first area
dreamy sapphire
do the scans closer to the stairs
you should get the bottom ones all done
b4 they get to you
tiny drum
and that is if i have the c foam mine
tiny drum
okay, thx for the advice. i think im getting addicted to the game bc i think i even had a dream about GTFO last night. lol
distant ice
insert "first time" meme here
tiny drum
lol
dire pecan
what does the C in C-Foam stand for?
neon gust
construction
dire pecan
construction foam huh
atomic robin
could also be cement
dire pecan
Ah interesting. I thought it was Containment
buoyant lion
If there are sleeping enemies behind a motion door ||B3 Overload motion door with a mother sleeping|| can we open the door and run back few rooms without alerting the sleeping enemies inside? Or will it alert the enemies inside regardless
gilded jolt
It depends if the enemies scream or not
buoyant lion
So is it just luck?
gilded jolt
Well I would say they have a lower chance of screaming if you are out of their line of sight but idk for sure
buoyant lion
Okay
neon gust
b3 overload door
buoyant lion
Motion yeah
neon gust
with the mother behind has a trigger that makes the scream
so she will wake up regardless
buoyant lion
Okay
dire pecan
Isn't the mother triggered once you cross the door threshold?
neon gust
you'll hear the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
dire pecan
@buoyant lion C-Foam is your best friend against Mothers
buoyant lion
We will smother it in foam
dire pecan
and if you aim kind of low you can kill the swarms as they spawn
neon gust
If shes at the top dont cfoam
go with combar or whatever
and shoot the babies as they come from her
buoyant lion
We kinda died
dire pecan
oof
buoyant lion
The egg sacs kept going into the walls
So we couldn't shoot them lol
It gave birth like 3 times before it died
distant ice
nope
wise thicket
I find it good for popping the tanks sacks
neon gust
its a good sentry
just place it better
it oneshots literally evey small enemy
and its mostly accurate
fluid mason
Alright, I'll work on it
neon gust
oneshtos chargers
neon gust
The initial shot need to go off tho
to behave like a normal sentry
it will shoot every 2 seconds
and consistently
fluid mason
Is it better than burst sentry?
neon gust
depends on you placement
sentries depends on placement
if its bad then all sentries sucks
weary relic
Well with the one shot capability. And the pierce. Yeah it can be
Idk if anyone is actually using it really well tho
neon gust
no it doesnt
weary relic
Yes actually it does
neon gust
pierce
weary relic
Idk how much. But it does
neon gust
thats revolver
fleet vessel
thats revolver
hel revolver, normal doesn't pierce does it
neon gust
i know
weary relic
Nope
neon gust
hes talking about sniper sentry
fluid mason
weary relic
I don’t think it can be super effective tho
fluid mason
I just know its ammo efficient
weary relic
It’s a good sentry. But I don’t think it can be used to maximum potential
fluid mason
Long corridors I suppose
weary relic
Ie using the pierce to maximize kills
fluid mason
but if theres a lot of corners, it takes a while to line up a shot
Thanks for helping me with my question :]
high badge
how does one go about doing a room with two scouts
died at the end of c2 bc of a two scout room
shrewd dirge
your options are:
Git Gud, hammer the scout, everyone else should charge hammer to deck any sleeper foolish enough to wake up
foam one scout, hammer. shoot other scout, clean up.
3. find gloop elsewhere if pastable.
torpid crow
we encountered the error alarm at a2 overload. adn whats the srat?
people just stay behind while the others clean up the rooms quietly?
neon gust
Theres no such thing as clearing overload A2 quietly
torpid crow
so guns blazing kill the scouts before they trigger?
neon gust
if you have bio wait for scout to get closer to door and kill him with sniper or bonk him
torpid crow
oh boi
neon gust
so that is 1 scout less
you will have them spawn on the inside of that room
so you have to deal with whatver its inside
shrewd dirge
bull, 2 inside, 2 out. the pair inside should have advanced hammering abilities.
hammering in Overload can be done in a soft alert fashion, go quickly, kill anything red before it screams. Hammer in tandem.
only go loud from the get go unless you cant hammer worth a damn, shoot scout if you must.
and uhhh, dont forget the terminal.
hazy wasp
will all rundowns be available during the full version of the game?
craggy pier
No, they won't be available
hazy wasp
so people who just got the game will miss out on old levels?
shrewd dirge
yes, but many floors will come back in spirit, and have.
the devs believe in refinement, not support of old content.
frankly, unless completing the rundown is important to you before the timer runs out, dont worry about it.
full fog
Do you all use toggle sprint and Toggle crouch? i'm working on getting better at kiting and was wondering if its just user preference or if there's an actual recommended set up for it
shrewd dirge
i use hold for sprint, toggle for crouch (but i wish you could bind both hold and toggle), so i mostly bhop away or torwards crowds
there's more to kiting than running through crowds, know when you can split a crowd up by closing a door waiting a few seconds, then reopening it.
full fog
Yeah, that's my current set up as well
ruby wasp
How good is ||the mother||'s detection range please ?
Is it similar to a giant for ex ?
dreamy relic
Can you shoot from inside a room to another and not alert enemies?
noble sierra
Yes if you're far enough, roughly 50m away.
spark wolf
it doesn't matter that much but not having toggle means you can generally react faster
literally just because you need more actions to do the same thing
toggle crouch for example, say you want to crouch a little and then stand back up, without toggle it's just press and let go, with toggle its press -> let go -> press -> let go
it's better to rebind those things to a button you can easily hold
like an additional mouse button
fading tangle
by that logic you'd want a flashlight hold instead of toggle
spark wolf
flashlight is a lot less important as it's not movement related
but that really wouldn't be bad if you have an easy to use button for it left
also the flashlight in this game is pretty small and you can literally look at their feet and just keep it on
or straight up murder the one you're looking at
anyway when i said doesn't matter much i meant doesn't matter much
it's pretty easy to understand that your movement can simply be more smooth and leaves you in charge more without toggles
it's pretty easy to understand that your movement can simply be more smooth and leaves you in charge more without toggles
hard wasp
frigid meadow
when would you take the burst sentry vs the auto sentry?
frigid meadow
?
spark wolf
burst sentry does more damage
if your main purpose is to kill you'd bring a burst
helpful for low class alarms
frigid meadow
what is the auto for then?
wise thicket
Stagger
frigid meadow
the turret is for killing so wouldnt you just take that
spark wolf
it has special rounds that stagger frequently
frigid meadow
why would stagger be useful?
wise thicket
Holds enemies back
wise thicket
Can kill baby sleepers pretty well
frigid meadow
less waves?
spark wolf
the game has an enemy cap
so it can't spawn another wave if there's no space within that cap
wise thicket
If you kill the wave before your done with the alarm it will spawn another wave
spark wolf
well no
defending on the spot
if you have the sentry stun the horde
it becomes very easy for you and your team to shoot them all
use c foam if you just want to delay
frigid meadow
but didnt you bring up the spawn cap earlier? would you just not want to kill them at all? at least until scans are done
spark wolf
yes
that's what a lot of people do
but mostly with c foam
it's basically sacrificing tool to save ammo
frigid meadow
huh, well thanks
delicate monolith
vital sierra
about 15
c foam a door with c foam grenade will be a waste
but it's insta foam door
spark wolf
throw it towards the bottom of the door just perfectly so the additional blobs land on the floor 
craggy pier
Juggling aggro usually works
weary mesa
as long as it's not mine cheese 
spark wolf
if you're talking about using 8 mines on it, I don't really think that's cheese
you're literally spending 80% of tool to kill an enemy
the same way you can spend 10% of tool to kill a small wave of small enemies
spark wolf
if the devs want an enemy that has resistance against explosions they could do that
if the devs want an enemy that can't be foamed they can also do that
if you want that, you should try suggesting it
but killing an enemy with the options you have available can't really be called cheese even if you've found a very safe way to do so
weary mesa
eh it's fine
vital sierra
the 8 mines thing have to be tested a lot
weary mesa
it's kind of just all kite no brain rn
vital sierra
kiting still get you kill tbf
if the mine thing kill tank a cheese
then my strat of bringing sniper sentry to get easy kill on tank also a cheese
vital sierra
nope
you can stand in cover
pop your head in and out
heard the 15 (max) shot
come out and he's dead
used 60%
better than mine as tool usage but not fast as mine
you just have to stand in cover for a minute and he's dead with sniper sentry
vital sierra
isn't the whole point of fighting the tank are just... hide?
spark wolf
i like fighting too but if i have 8 mines left at the end of C1, im still gonna use those 8 mines
vital sierra
nice
vital sierra
everyone is asleep while i have time to play
vital sierra
betrayal 100
sand scaffold
spark wolf
why are mom and dad fighting again
vital sierra
coarse flower
hello, is it just me or is gtfo getting easier since rundown 1,, maybe me and my friends are just getting better, or the game is getting easier
weary mesa
people getting better for sure
coarse flower
ah, i see, cuz me and my firends have gotten to b2 without dying yet
in r4 when does the game start picking up alot of difficulty
weary mesa
Taking on a new level is challenging sometimes but if you know how to use terminal and some of the games mechanics it shouldn't be too hard
might have to learn a few new thing with the layered difficulty
spark wolf
I think C tier is generally where a team that's played previous rundowns starts having to play more serious
A & B often still feel like introduction expeditions
craggy pier
Agreed
silk anchor
why are mom and dad fighting again
I thought Kolohe was the dad
spark wolf
shrewd dirge
C will bring down novices that have been having an easy time thus far.
timber zenith
Anyone know how to fix the problem that me and my friend can't see each other at the lobby and we cant start the cage drop
fading iron
Does anyone now if the hel pistol pierce works ||to shoot tumors on boss type enemies from the front||
wooden osprey
idk but i think it dose if you shoot them from side for tank
short talon
well its easier just to C-foam then use a burst canon on the tumors for something like the mother
wooden osprey
you dont even need C-foam for the mother
half of an burst cannon mag can kill the mother
short talon
True
wooden osprey
soo ya if you scared of her yes its always usefull to cfoam her
frigid meadow
wiki says you can one shot a hybrid with the new sniper, where do you shoot it for that?
frigid meadow
i thought the hybrid's head wasnt a weak point? doesnt even say on wiki
just says the back
short talon
well then atleast on the back
wooden osprey
wiki says you can one shot a hybrid with the new sniper, where do you shoot it f...
sniper one shot headshots every titan now anywhere in the head
weary mesa
The sniper now has a high precision multiplier meaning that if you hit the head it does crazy damage
frigid meadow
so the hybrid's head is now a weakpoint?
short talon
I remember when it couldnt headshot a titan
weary mesa
it always has been
frigid meadow
huh, i guess the wiki has been and still is wrong then lol
wooden osprey
so the hybrid's head is now a weakpoint?
always has been
short talon
dramatic music plays
weary mesa
only enemy without head multi is charger/||super charger||
frigid meadow
ok got it, appreciate it
weary mesa
and the bosses
frigid meadow
ye
wooden osprey
chargers are because head armor
weary mesa
they tar bois
prime cobalt
For the prisoner efficiency for A2 do you need to go Overload, extreme, high? I haven't tested yet but I just wanted to know if you could stealth out the extreme for A2 before the non stop alarm for Overload
minor fractal
You can determine the route by checking where bulkhead keys are.
You need to do overload first since it gives you a bulkhead key to finish extreme, but extreme doesn't give you one to go back and do overload.
prime cobalt
Gottcha
distant ice
Worth noting your high objective should be nearly finished before that
I.e. cryo near scan
timid glade
a2 is overload then ex tho iirc
distant ice
That is what ray said
lament temple
don't believe the extreme area has a bulkhead key whereas the overload does. (not 100% sure haven't played a2 in a minute) @prime cobalt
but yes the high obj should be done before overload/extreme
prime cobalt
Thats what I was thinking. We tried overload a couple times but got distracted with other levels and never finished. Im assuming A2 will be the easiest prisioner efficiency token to unlock D1 right?
lament temple
yeah. a2 is probably the easiest pe followed by a3
lament temple
if you're doing overloads might as well do pe imo
steel valley
i dont disagree, just letting them know
tacit zealot
why doesn't tab menu and lists above ingame players show the type of sentry they have, instead it justs says "sentry gun"
distant ice
Probably low priority bug
tacit zealot
Makes it quite hard for identifying who has what sentry
fleet vessel
does matchmaking ingame matchmake based on region or will the game attempt to put you in a lobby with someone far away?
As in, if I am in western europe (germany to be exact), will I be matched with people in western europe/middle east or will I also be matched with people in asia/america?
distant ice
Needs a confirm but it was mentioned that region/latency are considered
keen solar
It’s kind of based on the region first then it goes further if they system cannot find any matches in your region
terse musk
Are there any table figures from GTFO available for buy anywhere? I'd love a tiny Scout on my desk. Or are only Shadows available?
buoyant obsidian
Is there any plans for a progression system?
craggy pier
Yes, its in the roadmap
wise thicket
check the backlog
trail river
question about b3 extreme: ||does picking up the second cryo start an error alarm or are we safe to pick both of them up before completing the overload and main objective?||
craggy pier
question about b3 extreme: ||does picking up the second cryo start an error alar...
||No error alarm starts when picking up both cargo's||
trail river
cool, thanks!
vestal spade
Me and my friend bought this game last night on the sale. We play A1 a handful of times but it the farthest we’ve been able to get is to the security level III scan door. I know the game is balanced for four people, but there are people that can go in solo so I’m not sure what we’re missing
distant ice
well the first thing we need to know to be able to answer that is what you are doing
ideally apart from alarms you never have to use weapons or lose health
the first alarm can be scanned by you 2 before enemies even break through the door if you foam it once
unless rng decides to be an ass
lilac fulcrum
Also the people who can solo, they usually have hundreds of hours in this game, some of the best players, so the've put a lot of time into understanding how the game functions to be able to take advantage of everything. So don't use "people can solo" as a "oh we can do this with less than 4 people". Game is hard, especially for new players, but is very rewarding when you finally overcome and beat an expedition, get further, make progress, etc.
distant ice
all kinds of people kek
me and my buddy have never been in a full team, started out duo as well
and i know at least one madman who started out solo and cleared
vestal spade
I think we get the general concept of the game, but we’ve been trying to clear out the sectors and hope we find enough ammo for the wave defense. We have an easy enough time with the first scan door, being able to finish it before the wave breaks through like you said. We just get swarmed and run out of lead during the second scan. We both enjoy the challenge, I was wanting to get the communities opinion on whether learning the game duo would be worth it
distant ice
well as i said there's precedent, it's all up to how you want to enjoy the game
for finding ammo and stuff, resource packs are static
i.e. there's always the same amount in one zone
just use the terminals for them
for the class 3, your tools are important
you should probably have foam and mines
if it's necessary the foam guy can refoam the door they're banging on
vestal spade
Okay cool, I just learned how you can filter out the terminal list by sector too so that last especially helpful
distant ice
you usually filter by zone and name
vestal spade
Yeah that’s what I meant, not sector
buoyant lion
Does the B3 overload command start an alarm?
soft kiln
one wave
buoyant lion
of normal enemies?
buoyant lion
Ok
buoyant lion
Can you foam a door with 18%
minor fractal
How many balls?
buoyant lion
?
minor fractal
Full foam counts for more health I believe.
hybrid jasper
It takes 20% to fully reinforce it
minor fractal
No
hybrid jasper
Yes
minor fractal
20% is 12 balls, a full charge. You need 10.
distant ice
Full foam counts for more health I believe.
well i never tested that and not sure how i would
but when they're breaking down doors you can visibly see the balls being removed
wooden osprey
so you mean you wasteing 2% with full charge?
minor fractal
Yes.
distant ice
as soon as those are gone door's unfoamed
minor fractal
Assuming 2% is 2 balls
wooden osprey
and here i was being like oh ya you are wasteing a lot when you not doing ball by ball
i hate some players that teached me that now ):
hybrid jasper
It's not really wasting since they have to break the foam to start damaging the door. If anything, it buys you extra time.
minor fractal
Once balls get knocked off you can replace them.
distant ice
i'm aware but i mean at this point it looks like the whole door foaming up is just a visual effect
buoyant lion
We're trying to do the final 2 uplinks on B3 PE and someone walked infront of the terminal as I was on it, it detected personnel and now we can't use the terminal
fix how
rapid flower
are they gonna add better footsteps in the future
acoustic canopy
What tool set up would people consider 'the best' ?
craggy pier
1 bio, 1 foam, 1 auto sentry, and 1 mine, not the best but pretty versatile
And best tool setup is level dependent
acoustic canopy
alright thanks, for the sentry which do you think is better? Depending on the situation
craggy pier
I don't use the sentries much, when I do I always default to auto sentry because of how good it staggers
meager marten
whats the general strategy? do we sneak past almost everything? are we supposed to try to sneak kill multiple things at the same time?
gilded jolt
Yes mostly sneak
Only have to sneak kill multiple things at once if they are very close to each other
craggy pier
Occi 1tap OP
meager marten
and its just noise that wakes them up?
craggy pier
Flashlights can also alert them or make them glow
meager marten
ok thanks, just started (had watched a few videos of people mostly running right up to enemies and smashing their heads) and keep dying before really figuring out anything it seems
distant ice
Well that's not a good way to first start the game
It's something you do when you're used to things
meager marten
not really what were trying to do, just seem to get caught easily
azure nest
Is it intended that error alarm waves spawn infront of you and often trigger scouts and whatever other fun creatures?
distant ice
It is what it is
That question has been asked a lot, especially recently
Hasn't been changed since r2 tho
vagrant current
There are ways to prevent that from happening. Not full proof, but still makes it better.
azure nest
May i ask what these ways are, i mean except for rushing through like a madman
vagrant current
Waves generally spawn two rooms ahead. However, when the group is split up too much they don't spawn like normal. Splitting up is what causes the mobs to spawn ahead of you. It's important to note that some places are so large that this won't work.
So the idea is to stay close-ish to the team. You don't have to be on top of them, but as long as you're just inside the room, it's enough.
spark wolf
staying together doesn't prevent forward spawns at all
staying together prevents the game from shitting itself and spawning them on top of you
gilded jolt
If progress keeps going at this pace it would make sense for 1.0 to be late next year
vale relic
so any tips on b2? the fog basically made us blind for the first class 3 alarm
gilded jolt
If you do things in the right order you wont have to deal with fog
minor fractal
Don't put cells in until you're actually in the zones you're clearing fog from and you don't need to do anything in the otherwise fogless areas.
vale relic
ok got it
so some cells remove fog from certain areas? and therefor another room gets fog?
vale relic
ok thank you very much
minor fractal
Kind of?
Cell 1 lowers fog, cell 2 causes fog to go infinitely downwards from a plane rather than infinitely upwards from a plane, cells 3 and 4 further lower that plane.
indigo wraith
hey, I just wanted to ask a question that has probably already been answered, but is there a set distance on the attacks of the sleepers that decide to lick you?
midnight wind
What if, instead of prisoners, they add or change lore that we are mercenaries being sent down? That way we can get maybe rewards and customization? If we also get randomized maps as well that would shake things up a bit.
craggy pier
They already have a vision of what they want the game to be
midnight wind
Oh nice where can I read up on it
lilac fulcrum
.t roadmap
uneven gulchBOT
You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap
craggy pier
I'm fairly certain they won't deviate from their vision
gilded jolt
Plus we are not really prisoners in the traditional sense, the term "prisoners" (in this situation) afaik just refers to the fact that we are being forced to do these missions, which does not really exclude us from the possibility of getting rewards for doing them
midnight wind
Aren't we just prisoners being forced down there? IIRC from one of the lore videos that if the prisoners doesn't start doing anything the warden would start an alarm forcing the said prisoners to do their work.
And yeah the possibility of getting rewards doesn't really exclude us getting rewards as well
Also, I've been reading on the roadmap and it's too vague to really know what their visions are for this game. My suggestion is more of a further future lore and systems, really.
atomic robin
i feel like youve misinterperated what the vid said
dreamy relic
is there a level in this run down i can practice testing things against scouts?
soft kiln
A3 : one scout with no alarm needed
B2: 100% two scouts if you go to extreme zone (error alarm) / 0~2 scouts with no alarm needed (high)
dreamy relic
thanks!
soft kiln
C1: not very high chance for scout to spawn at the first zone
pure saddle
there's a zone with 5-7 scouts in the same room in C2, but i forgot the zone
not first zone though
wise thicket
zone 13 has alot of scouts but its class 3
dreamy relic
wait is the error alarm the one that spawns enemies for the rest of the game?
craggy pier
wait is the error alarm the one that spawns enemies for the rest of the game?
yes an error alarm will spawn enemies for the rest of the level until extraction.
error alarms an be shut off as well but only in certain levels
craggy pier
if you go through the main path instead and open zone 87 there are 0-4 scouts in that zone
no alarms needed and no error alarm
@dreamy relic
wise thicket
do hybrids now spawn during zone 12 alarm in C2
steel trench
is there an mp3 file for the mother scream? asking to prank some friends
wooden osprey
is there an mp3 file for the mother scream? asking to prank some friends
idont think so
but im not fully sure
if you found one tell me
minor fractal
@dreamy relic You should be able to comfortably solo three enemies every 50 seconds, but by far the best scout practice is B3. You can open the first two extreme zones with no alarms and get four scouts out of it.
shrewd dirge
based, glad we have a real scout practice map now.
gaunt dock
So, what is it that the syringes do exactly?
craggy pier
.t Syringes
uneven gulchBOT
Sorry, unable to find a tag named Syringes.
craggy pier
oh thought it was a tag
dreamy relic
the red one heals and the yellow increases melee damage
but both at the cost of infection
craggy pier
.t syringe
gilded jolt
.t syringe
uneven gulchBOT
What each syringe does: The red one gives you health, but also infection, the yellow/green one buffs your melee for short time, also gives you infection.
craggy pier
Well...
gaunt dock
oh sweet, I'm gonna love that bot
question about infection, at 20% infection, that'll drain my hp to 80%?
craggy pier
yes
gaunt dock
I.E. is the health drain equal to infection?
dreamy relic
yea
gaunt dock
alright
craggy pier
100 - infection = new max health
gaunt dock
gets 100% infection and maintains it Welp... bye bye!
craggy pier
100 infection isn't certain death Unless there's wallsacks you can't see
dreamy relic
^
plucky jacinth
Do terminals ever make any kind of noise? Say you approach one, and activate it, incomplete stealth.
distant ice
no
plucky jacinth
Cool, thanks!
hollow spear
Hey hey
I got a question
I've just got GTFO a bit ago, barely managed to try (and fail) one run
And even that was 2-man
neon gust
Pretty normal
hollow spear
So I had a question to ask
Does this game enforce a stealth playstyle
Or is gun-down-everything-you-see also available?
neon gust
Game has a gameplay loop of alarms
You want to stealth everything until that poiny
To save resources
If you shot every room you'll most likely ran out of resources and die
So learn to use your only resources thats infinite (hammer)
hollow spear
So... The game's got a "correct" playstyle that's enforced?
shrewd dirge
not reallyyyyyyy
neon gust
It depends on map
Regular maps are mostly stealth until alarm doors
Some others are loud only until the end
shrewd dirge
change your strategys depending on the map and mission requirements
neon gust
Some others are heavy on stealth
shrewd dirge
from your weapon, to how you move, to how you stealth
low vortex
does the terminal for overload in b3 PE trigger a permannent alarm
neon gust
I believe its only one big wave
And thats it
The last terminal in high objective its the one that does that
low vortex
awsome than you so much
neon gust
Hybrids tho beware
low vortex
thanks for the heads up
shrewd dirge
@hollow spear however, first things first, A tier checks that you know how to hammer at a basic level, and to not die to a couple enemies.
A tier can be done totally loud, but any other tier you will run out of ammo extremely quickly.
hollow spear
Looking at other things online it seems like the answer really is, "Payday but only stealth"
shrewd dirge
the only ever soft-hard requirement is 4 players for beginners, rather than 2.
an assesment by casuls.
hollow spear
Is it?
neon gust
Looking at other things online it seems like the answer really is, "Payday but o...
Far from it
hollow spear
I am only getting this to play with my friend, didn't intend to actually queue into 4 people at any point.
neon gust
2 man its difficult but duable
You just need to have a fair understanding of game mechanics
shrewd dirge
if you only ever intend to get 2 player parties, this game likely isnt for you.
neon gust
The lower you go the harder it gets and it YOU WILL have to learn some strats
hollow spear
Yeah... I suppose so.
neon gust
You cannot really turn off your brain and play this game
hollow spear
I suppose I'll be refunding this more because it's just not what I was looking for, than anything else. Too bad because the game looks super cool.
neon gust
Its understanble
shrewd dirge
game is honestly, fantastic, however brutal that it can be.
hollow spear
Yeah... The difficulty is inviting, the atmosphere is fantastic though by god the intense fog that wouldn't let me see further than my nose was annoying but if it's going to be a melee simulator that all but requires me to get more friends, I think I'm at the wrong place.
neon gust
Its not really melee simulator
hollow spear
Melee simulator until alarm doors.
neon gust
99% of time poeple use melee for stealth onyl if your really good younuse melee for loud
shrewd dirge
melee for when room is cold, or wrapping up strays.
neon gust
Or to clean the last couple of sleepers
But thats it
Guns are crucial to the gameplay loop
Of course if you dont like it theres nothing we can do about it 
shrewd dirge
in a party of 4, there really isn't a length of time where you are spending multiple minutes hammering to clear a room.
hollow spear
Yeah. We were looking more for, to quote,
ElecToday at 00:40
to be honest
If this really ends up being a melee simulator I'm completely uninterested
ElecToday at 00:40
the whole fun part for me's to check out every corner and clear the floor
but we're apparently never going to get enough ammo to clear it
not that clearing it helps you at all because those alarm doors spawn enemies in
like I'd understand if the alarm door just alerted the entire map
so you clear the floor and then get to do easy peasy alarm door
neon gust
Then thats clearly on you
shrewd dirge
clearing the whole zone is generally advised, unless you'd like to deal with 30 enemies while doing an alarm.
which, i dont think your guns could shoot fast enough tbh
neon gust
Game its about resource management and tactics, having all the ammo just to shoot 7 guys in room would.be boring and remove all tension
dreamy sapphire
Game doesn’t really force any of this play style as well the only level you will struggle to shoot everything is b1
People play melee simulator because it’s fun
neon gust
Stealth parts behave more like a puzzle with enemy positioning in wich you have to communicate with your team to take it out specially in crowded rooms
dreamy sapphire
^ and timing
neon gust
But yeah games.not for you i dont even know why im continuing 
shrewd dirge
he's already gone.
dreamy sapphire
he’s playing fortnight
shrewd dirge
lmao
neon gust
sudden fossil
how useful/good is the new Sniper Turret? Is it better than a burst sentry if your team already has a Sniper in their loadout?
steel valley
its ok, not as useful as the auto sentry imo
vital sierra
well since the meta is not killing stuff
fading tangle
Sniper sentry is very ammo efficient compared to the other sentries
Plus it can pierce I think
For a large crowd of enemies it's not bad
Assuming it can line up a good enough shot in time
neon gust
It.cannot pierce
People who said it can pierce it becsuse they're looking at something they shouldnt
Sniper sentry its my fav sentry i love it
I had a lot of utility on giants too!
short talon
I prefer to manually sniper big bois
vital sierra
sniper are now too much to use
short talon
what
vital sierra
damage increase but lower ammo
short talon
Yeah I use it all the time so I found that out easily
wooden osprey
it is one of the best weapons right now
neon gust
Yes and no
keen solar
HEL sniper 
?
neon gust
I miss hel rifle
wooden osprey
HEL sniper <:smug:280954746217693186>?
that will be too op
keen solar
only have 2 bullets
short talon
But it can now always 1 shot a big striker
short talon
I never managed to 1 shot a hybrid
neon gust
I never managed to 1 shot a hybrid
Aim better
neon gust
Apparently.not
wooden osprey
i hate that ppl say oh hold left click and everything dies with BC
neon gust
short talon
Some people just wanna play this game like doom
neon gust
Then go play doom