gtfo-related-questions

[hexed aspen]

I dont see the "join discord from clipboard" button it shows

[craggy pier]

You have to manually join the voice channel in Discord

is rundown 4 out yet

[minor fractal]

Came out last Thursday

[lilac fulcrum]

Jeff, you would need to copy the lobby id from someone else group

[craggy pier]

mk

[plucky oriole]

What do tungsten rounds do?

[weary relic]

stagger

[plucky oriole]

Ahh, thank you!

[shell gate]

Anyone know the exact damage of the heavy assault rifle vs the normal one?

[weary relic]

roughly 5.5 damage vs 3.5 if what rayalot said is correct/ me remembering correct

[shell gate]

KK ty

[restive reef]

is ladder bug still a thing

like headless scout

[keen solar]

I think so

As long as they don't add sleeper dying animation when they are climbing, it will still exist.

[scarlet chasm]

What's generally considered to be the best tool load out for a 4 man squad

[swift reef]

It's really up to playstyle

the all rounder is usually one mine deployer, c-foam launcher, sentry, and Bio tracker

but it can vary from level to level

[scarlet chasm]

Okay, we had a bio tracker, two sentries and a c foam and I just felt like the c foam wasn't really doing us many favors

so I was wondering if it would be better for me to swap from c foam to another sentry or mines

[swift reef]

it's up to you

c-foam is good for delaying waves during alarms

and freezing enemies

[tawdry leaf]

In open ground areas it's kinda eh but it strengths in chokes as well as what Leonardo said

[swift reef]

good for when you have even only 1 door

[scarlet chasm]

We're still in the A1 and A2 areas so we've had a lot of open areas

at least 2 doors most scans

[swift reef]

then I recommend taking c-foam

[scarlet chasm]

Ok thanks

[craggy pier]

You don't need more than 2 sentries

[tired comet]

whats the current meta for best weapons in the new rundown?

[gilded jolt]

It depends on your preference

Levels usually have specific tools good for that level but weapons is mostly preference

[craggy pier]

It still depends on your playstyle and preference

[weary relic]

carbine still reigns supreme

HXC is also really good

and a weird top gun is auto pistol, tho it lacks stopping power

[swift reef]

HXC?

[weary relic]

the heavy ar

[swift reef]

ah

at least they buffed AR

[gilded jolt]

Ye I like heavy Ar

Gotta get used to recoil a little bit at first

But it good

[swift reef]

Combat shotgun lost even more range 😢

[gilded jolt]

And its rundown specific

[craggy pier]

It's because of the ranged shotty

[gilded jolt]

I prob wont use it much this rundown

But CS is my og gun ima be sad if it gets removed

[swift reef]

well it's on the deathbead

[craggy pier]

Good

[swift reef]

I will miss CS

[gilded jolt]

Same

[craggy pier]

Imagine if the devs added a 10 chamber revolver for the meymeys

[swift reef]

they just add a new revolver

we also have MG

[restive reef]

imagine if imagine if imagine if

[swift reef]

Imagine if it was christmas

[rotund jasper]

santa claus striker

[swift reef]

Santa Titan

elf shooters

[gilded jolt]

Now that is a good idea

[rotund jasper]

Burst cannon good

[swift reef]

it got buffed to do more damage

[rotund jasper]

yes

[swift reef]

does it one burst big guys now?

[rotund jasper]

2

in R3 it needs 3 sometimes

[swift reef]

what about from the back?

[rotund jasper]

Probaly 1?

[weary relic]

ye

i think

[rotund jasper]

I used it on damaged big boys and hordes

its good

[swift reef]

Does the new MG do less damage than before?

[rotund jasper]

idk

[craggy pier]

Feels like it

[rotund jasper]

I can only tell that

RECOIL HITS SO HARD

[craggy pier]

Imagine not tapfiring MG

[weary relic]

mg bodies do the same

headshots seem reduced

[swift reef]

works well when lined up

[rotund jasper]

true

[swift reef]

they can take the hel guns away but they can't take away the hel shooting

[rotund jasper]

alright sleepers line up

we're gonna give each of you lead

[swift reef]

no more than 4 shots

[left yacht]

Does anyone know how to change hosts while in the lobby?

[gilded jolt]

I do not think you can change on the spot I think the host just has to leave

[weary relic]

Already got it

[ivory river]

I don't know it's the bug it's just planning to be like that, but i still asking. In the game, the characters have different variations of different phrases (for example, in the case of stealth, the character will speak in a whisper, and in the case of alarm, he will yell at the entire zone). But the problem is that this feature only works for the game host. Try changing the host and notice that the character suddenly has more phrases. I'm just curious, the devs know about this bug?

[weary relic]

Yes

[fading tangle]

why's it so hard to find people for D1 lol

[frank estuary]

Probaby because the rundown has been out for only a couple days?

[gilded jolt]

Ye most people are not on D1 yet

[violet wave]

Do enemies always come the same way when you trigger an alarm?

[rotund jasper]

they pick the way with least resistance

[violet wave]

What if there are two ways with equal resistance?

[rotund jasper]

closest one

[violet wave]

Were red glow sticks seasonal?

[rotund jasper]

yes

[violet wave]

Which season?

[craggy pier]

R1

[violet wave]

Just R1?

[craggy pier]

Yes

[rotund jasper]

yes

[violet wave]

Aww

Same

Is there a way to dodge their tongue things?

[rotund jasper]

When they attack they make noise

[violet wave]

Can you melee shove the ones that crawl on the ground?

[rotund jasper]

yes

[craggy pier]

Yes

[violet wave]

Would you recommend leaving a door open when doing an alarmed door?

And fortifying that

[rotund jasper]

leave one open

kinda yep cos they'll come thru that sometimes

[craggy pier]

Leave none open, figure out where they come through and if you do it again you have knowledge on where they go and fortify that

[rotund jasper]

^

[swift reef]

you can fortify both with mines

and you can have your c-foam guy run up to the door which is getting hit

[craggy pier]

Just to be a bit extra, mine all the doors if you don't know where they come through

[violet wave]

Makes sense

[swift reef]

you don't lose anything from mining all of them

that's why c-foam grenades are really useful

[violet wave]

Last question: gavel, maul, mallet, or sledgehammer?

[swift reef]

Gavel

[craggy pier]

None, Machine Gun best melee

[rotund jasper]

None

[swift reef]

neonate from R3

[violet wave]

Neonate?

[rotund jasper]

Fog repeller

[swift reef]

baby

[rotund jasper]

glowstick

[swift reef]

glowstick

[violet wave]

I didn't play r3

[rotund jasper]

turbine

[swift reef]

long range flashlight

[rotund jasper]

power cell

[swift reef]

actually nvm lockmelters

[rotund jasper]

no

[swift reef]

yes

[rotund jasper]

Tripmines

[violet wave]

Power cells look like graphics cards

[craggy pier]

R2B2 flashbacks intensify

[rotund jasper]

hey wanna complete a mission?

hit a tripmine

[swift reef]

no

it supercharges it

[rotund jasper]

^

it makes it more efficient if you do that

[swift reef]

especially if your whole squad lines up next to it

[rotund jasper]

true

trust us we played this game a lot

[violet wave]

Whatever became of that terrain scanner from the initial trailer?

[swift reef]

mapper

😔

hopefully we get it next rundown

[rain python]

Hello warden gib r3 stats

[worthy pollen]

is still calculating how many times i failed d1

[keen solar]

Probably soon. Normally they announce it a week or two after the new one is out

[soft crater]

for rundown 3?

[shy gale]

Hey all! I just bought the game and I haven't seen a whole lot of the game. Is there a guide for quick tips to get started?

[zealous sage]

search in the wiki of the game, you have a lot of tips to deal with enemies and more stuff

[hard wasp]

!wiki How to play

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/How_to_play

GTFO Wiki

How to play

GTFO is a 4-player cooperative first-person shooter, with elements of stealth, resource management and defending positions. This guide will act as a very basic introduction to the game and its mechanics. If you would like more information to look at the individual pages or learn yourself in-game.
If you do not own GTFO you can purchase it on Steam here:

[shell gate]

Once you blow off the head of the enemy, did they remove the hitbox for the head now or is it still there?

[weary relic]

It’s removed

[shell gate]

kk ty

[trail river]

is there any way to get a player unstuck yet? I've heard before that waiting 10 mins resets the player, but it doesnt work for me.

[lilac fulcrum]

unfortunately there is no unstuck feature. hopefully we can either add one or patch the stuck spots

[lilac linden]

Is the DMR still top-tier as I read it was last year?

[weary relic]

Never has been

It has always been the most garbage kill gun. Fantastic rear support gun

[spark wolf]

if the expedition has a carry item with collision, you might be able to drop it at the feet of the person that's stuck

could help

[shy gale]

so is there any form of progression or unlockable stuff in the game

[weary relic]

not yet

[shy gale]

gotcha

[craggy pier]

what does "Fantastic rear support gun" mean

[weary relic]

its not meant for an aggressive style of play, but a rear guard

but also not for killing, its a support gun

you waste 12 damage if you kill a sleeper with it

[craggy pier]

then what is the optimal weapon for killing sleeper?

besides melee

[weary relic]

carbine or Heavy Ar are the top two kill guns

[craggy pier]

hm ok

are there any rundowns designed for 1-2 people?

[weary relic]

nope

[flat rock]

Rundowns are scaled for four player play, but achievable with any number of players depending on player skill and such.

[craggy pier]

If I stay still, jump and move forward in air, and then land still, would that alert sleepers

[weary relic]

depends

[worthy pollen]

^

[weary relic]

its something better tested yourself to learn the specifics

[craggy pier]

Ok cool will do

[weary relic]

[weary sonnet]

How to list specific areas?

[lilac fulcrum]

list zone_123

[weary sonnet]

thats a zone

not an area

like

a b c d

[worthy pollen]

iirc theres no way to ping a specific area

[pseudo briar]

can anybody get matchmaking to work right now? I just wait endlessly today for some reason

[worthy pollen]

matchmaking is working

[pseudo briar]

hmm, b1

[lilac fulcrum]

there may not be people in your region with your voice and language settings for that expedition right now

[worthy pollen]

is maybe that ur langauge settings / region / mission isnt getting aa lot of people

[lilac fulcrum]

usually more people are on during US evening hours (So in 3-4+ hours from now)

[pseudo briar]

b1 English, think it woul dbe hopping right now but I guess not

[distant ice]

there's voice and language settings for mm?

[lilac fulcrum]

yea storm

[worthy pollen]

yy

[distant ice]

imma go see if literally anybody plays lithuanian

i'll be surprised if i even find one person

[worthy pollen]

also maybe mayoritie of the english speakers playing b1 are using the lfg chats

[lilac fulcrum]

primary and secondary, to match all people need same language, either in pri or sec (doesn't have to be all in pri or all in sec, just either one)

[pseudo briar]

ya I saw a few in there Dusty, I'll probably try it out, thanks

[lilac fulcrum]

and for voice, need to be favorable. e.g. if you have everyone must use voice, it won't match with "i don't use voice" but everyone must use will match with 'i use voice'

[pseudo briar]

ya, I usually just select "i use voice" so I get a match faster

[hexed solar]

Does anyone know, will the warden twitter account be updated with R3 stats?

[distant ice]

yes when it's ready

[lilac fulcrum]

yeah, give it a little time, we just launched R4, we're working on some bug fixing, it's the weekend, devs are trying to relax after some long hours working up to release. the info will be posted as soon as possible

[half pier]

hi. are sectors prerequisites for anything? or is there anything I get if I complete a difficult sector in a mission?

I thought I saw something like C1 requiring at least one extreme sector completion or something like that. But not sure about it.

OH

the SECTORS REQUIRED: part did not load for me and my friend at the same time. restarting the game fixed it for both of us

[idle rover]

hi i played R3 before without issues
i just updated to R4 but when i launch its stuck on loading a blue circle cursor but nothing happens, the game icon stays minimized and shows a black screen
tried reinstall but didn't fix it 😦 any ideas?

[minor fractal]

Can you screenshot what it's stuck on and either PM it or post in #gtfo-media ?

Also, #gtfo-technical-support is a better place for this.

[idle rover]

ok will post screenshot in technical support in a min

[crisp anchor]

if I like horror, I like the extraction/raid shit of looters like EFT and Destiny, and want good meaningful co-op, will I like GTFO? I enjoy stealth but I also would want uhhhh like cool firefights, which it seems to have

I just wanna kinda ask what it actually feels like playing, if it gets repetitive even

also I guess I want to ask, because I don't want to research for fear of spoilers, if there's any cool story or anything

[drowsy zinc]

does gtfo support xbox controllers?

[weary relic]

yes, but it can be a bit buggy

@drowsy zinc

[mortal folio]

On B2 the overload bunker door confuses me, does it continuously alarm?

[gilded jolt]

I think extreme does

Prob not

@mortal folio Overload is not an endless alarm, extreme is though

[craggy pier]

when prepping for security alarms, where should I assume spawnpoints be from?

also, on the same note, I have two doors leading to my alarm room, but door A is past door B with no other way to access door A without taking a path that passes by Door B, should I reinforce door A or only focus on door B?

hmm ok, so let's say a room 2 rooms away only has a closed security door and regular doors that go into it

could they hypothetically spawn there?

the recent one I've been doing seems to spawn them from my spawn area but that could just be a coincidence

[mortal folio]

@gilded jolt it's the overload alarm in A2 that has the warning://Error alarm detected

[gilded jolt]

Oh you said B2 in the post earlier

@mortal folio Ye A2's overload is an error alarm (an alarm that goes on forever)

[mortal folio]

so does that mean you have to save that until the very end of the map?

[spark wolf]

Yes

[mortal folio]

damn, thanks guys

[spark wolf]

I wonder if the overload zone has 3 rooms by poor design or if it's just intended asshole design made to screw you over

(as the 2 room away spawns can spawn in the 3rd room unless you manage to get to the 2nd room in time)

[gilded jolt]

Ye that happened to my team when we did it

[spark wolf]

Even if it's intended it's still pretty poor design because the additional difficulty is pure rng

could just have everything spawn behind instead of ahead

[shell gate]

What missions can earn prisoner effiency?

[gilded jolt]

A2,B2,C2, and D2

Only the ones that have up to overload

[shell gate]

Sweet! 😄

[weary relic]

dont die

[tawdry leaf]

I was lucky but we had me go in while the others covered the bulk door

[lilac linden]

Any reason to pick the DMR over the pistol (other than i.e. sights)? It seems that for most smaller enemies (shooter/striker) there's a marginal difference in damage and the Pistol has some insane ammo efficiency

[fading tangle]

range?

[weary relic]

So

[craggy pier]

DMR is better used to headshot once then move to another sleeper and do the same thing

[weary relic]

It’s a two shot to kill. But heavily overkill’s, it is a very poor kill gun choice.

[craggy pier]

^

[weary relic]

Pistol is better for killing but is a lot different

[lilac linden]

Yeah I was thinking more of a stay-back-and-headshot role for the DMR precisely for that reason haha

[weary relic]

Dmr requires a lot of kill coordination and used only as a support role

[lilac linden]

I'm more inclined to play a supporting role myself so that's why I've been insisting on it haha

I heard someone say that the DMR is pretty much just slap them to take out huge chunks of health and let the rest of the squad finish them off

[craggy pier]

Yes

That's its purpose

[lilac linden]

(might've been you Neko, now that I think of it lol)

[weary relic]

Yep. One headshot then any gun will finish them

Doubt it tbh

I hate the gun and find the role useless in very high skill runs

[lilac linden]

thankfully all my runs are very low skill LOL

[weary relic]

Because when you have two people that support carry the team. Any rear guard is undesirable

But different team skills. So

[craggy pier]

It was the DMR D2 meme run

[weary relic]

But for normal teams yeah it’s fine if you coordinate

[lilac linden]

Got it! Not gonna lie, I also really like the pistol but using it felt weird

I think it's because I had a pistol + sniper so I was kind of soft-locked into the pistol

And what's the general consensus on the revolver? It felt comfy using it (partly because of the ammo efficiency) but I don't know how sustainable that is in the long run

[weary relic]

It’s decent

Good kill potential

On smalls

[lilac linden]

I'm doing mostly As so far, so smalls are all there is haha

[weary relic]

Yup

You gotta tap heads tho

[lilac linden]

Yeah, definitely, but using it feels clean enough that I can get a decent amount of HSs

I guess I need to try out some more weapon combos and see what makes me feel more comfortable

[craggy pier]

Yeah don't use DMR with sniper, you might get overwhelmed quickly

[weary relic]

And best guns, HAR, Carbine and auto pistol

Auto is a support role meant for cqc

[craggy pier]

CQS

[weary relic]

My specialty

[craggy pier]

Close Quarter Stagger

[weary relic]

Yup

[lilac linden]

LOL

[weary relic]

Sucks to kill

[craggy pier]

I'm serious Dok

[weary relic]

But stagger locks everything

[lilac linden]

Haven't tried the carbine or the auto yet, HAR felt oddly cumbersome with the recoil

Might just do auto pistol + revolver this time, feels like it could work I reckon

[weary relic]

Carbine and HAR are min max guns

Autopistol is just my playstyle in a nutshell

Why kill when I can stagger the entire wave and do scans?

[craggy pier]

Choke mod = Sniper shogun
Change my mind

[weary relic]

Yup

It’s nice

[lilac linden]

I'm weird enough that my favorite playstyles are either up close and personal or lone marksman from afar lol

[weary relic]

Same

Except I’m the SAW. Or sniper

[craggy pier]

I don't even know what my playstyle is

[weary relic]

Not on this game tho

Hammer time

[craggy pier]

I alternate with hammers and guns

[lilac linden]

Auto pistol feels like it has some weird ammo efficiency though

[weary relic]

I love using riotgun. So I use ammo

And it’s not for killing

That’s why

[lilac linden]

Makes sense haha

just stagger then hammer?

[weary relic]

You can stagger a striker in one shot

It’s a more support style gun

[lilac linden]

I see

[weary relic]

also op for solo

[lilac linden]

Just for solo?

[weary relic]

In general

Just flows insanely well with the best solo players

[craggy pier]

I died doing a class II alarm solo because of my own mine

[weary relic]

As we all play generally the same

[lilac linden]

Makes sense

I'm gonna give some of the tips in here a spin, thanks for the help guys

[weary relic]

Nice. Gl

[craggy pier]

auto pistol is good for solo?

can you explain why?

[weary relic]

Cause of the stagger

[craggy pier]

stagger -> melee or is it kinda run and gun or...?

[weary relic]

Good for kiting and brute forcing scans

[craggy pier]

ah gotcha, stall them as you stand in the red scan thing

[weary relic]

It staggers them without killing. Which is how I and some others play normally

I prefer not to kill until after I’m done with scans etc

[bronze pivot]

if you complete extreme more than once on the same level does it count?

[gilded jolt]

Yes

[weary relic]

In the counter yes

[craggy pier]

what's the advantage of kill after scans

[weary relic]

In the stats for unlocking. No

[bronze pivot]

oh okay stats for unlocking no gotcha

[weary relic]

Because if you kill during it can screw up enemy positions

[bronze pivot]

damn lmao

[weary relic]

So wait to kill until after

[craggy pier]

sorry, im still new, can you elaborate on enemy positions? is it like the spawn rates or the direction they come into the room...?

[weary relic]

They can spawn in front of you while kiting. Which can end a run

[craggy pier]

wtf..???!?

[weary relic]

Having them come from multiple directions solo also sucks

So yeah

In E1, my way was always hammer stagger them. There was no need to kill until after. (Especially since they were surge scans)

That’s why I love the riotgun, it’s just another stagger tool I can use

[manic berry]

A question, do we need to beat extreme before overload to be able to have the progress recorded?

[weary relic]

No

It seems your complete bugged out

I saw the original message*

[manic berry]

Oh...

[lilac fulcrum]

well let's back up a sec

[weary relic]

Did you alt F4 the game immediately after completing

[lilac fulcrum]

which complete do you think is missing?

[manic berry]

No

I didn't beat the extreme, but I beat the overload for A2

however, non of that is shown in my game

I exit the game after the team returned to the lobby, and probably stayed in the lobby for couple minutes before logging off

[lilac fulcrum]

ok so you completed main, didn't do extreme, completed overload, and only got credit for main?

[manic berry]

yes

[lilac fulcrum]

did anyone else in your group get credit for main and overload?

[manic berry]

I wasn't sure, the group all left after we beat the level, and I just noticed this after I logged in a bit ago.

I also encountered a strange issue that the game's video will freeze after I changed some of my in game settings.

[lilac fulcrum]

the video freezing is something we're looking into

[manic berry]

Oh cool, good to know that.

[lilac fulcrum]

You should be able to get credit for main and overload without doing extreme. my assumption is that maybe you didn't actually complete overload? because the system that handles player credit takes all of that data in one chunk so you'd either get credit for main + overload, or nothing (if there was an issue with that).

.t logs

[uneven gulch]

Can you please provide the logs? Instructions: Download and run the Log Manager, and post the link after it uploads the files here in chat: https://bitbucket.org/layer7solutions/gtfo-log-manager/downloads/GTFO_Log_Manager.exe

[lilac fulcrum]

if you want to supply the logs then we can take a look tomorrow and see what they show

[manic berry]

Sure

https://files.layer7.solutions/uploads/DESKTOP-5V1JAEN.2020.10.25.zip-1603685272.gz

So the program said just need to share this link?

I am pretty sure it is A2 Overload we beat earlier today, cause we did multiple runs to actually complete it...

[lilac fulcrum]

thanks, that has the logs

[craggy pier]

if I hit a sleeper and the nearby ones aren't pulsing or glowing but they're like, really really close, does that alert them

[weary relic]

Yes

Within 4m iirc

[craggy pier]

thank you

If you can full charge one and then half charge the alerted one on the head and it Should die

[shrewd dirge]

A2 question ||does the a2 hsu retreival spawn endless waves?||

[gilded jolt]

@shrewd dirge ||No if I remember correctly ||

||But if you doing prison efficiency there is gonna be endless waves coming anyway so||

[weary relic]

||It does do waves||

[gilded jolt]

||Ye it spawns waves but after you do the scan the alarm stops||

[weary relic]

||oh that’s right it has the single static wave||

I forgot that exists

[shrewd dirge]

||so i can do the error bulkhead last right||

[weary relic]

No

[gilded jolt]

Nope

||Gotta start it first||

||Extreme has no bulkhead key||

[weary relic]

||if you want to do both. You have to do error first. Then hsu||

[shrewd dirge]

Ah, rip, thanks for confirming sus.

[weary relic]

[modest nimbus]

How come the player model legs were removed? We used to be able to see our legs when we look down

[weary relic]

I’ve seen other ppl say that too. But I still see my legs fine

Hmm

It wasn’t changed

[modest nimbus]

Interesting, what could be the cause?

[torpid mirage]

is it just me or the smg got a little nerf?

[weary relic]

You

[swift reef]

what is the stagger and precision? Do they mean that some weapons stagger enemies more?

[weary relic]

Yuh. Stagger literally staggers more

[fading tangle]

Tungsten bullets stagger more

[weary relic]

Which is dumb

Tungstens = AP

Not stagger. That needs to change

[pallid bay]

what is exactly prisoner efficiency?

how can i achieve it and is it always possible on all levels

[gilded jolt]

Doing the High, Extreme, and Overload side objectives in one run

No only on A2,B2,C2,D2

[swift reef]

you sometimes have to do them in a certain order

[pallid bay]

then I must have missed something becoz i cleared overload on A2 but i couldn't find how to activate the extreme lvl again

maybe i messed up?

[gilded jolt]

There is a bulkhead key in the A2 overload zone

You must have missed it

[pallid bay]

does it work the same way at the same bulkhead console

[gilded jolt]

Yes

[pallid bay]

ah ok

thanks for the help 🙂

[strong sun]

Hi guys, I've recently bought the game and when I'm looking at LFG I see people saying A1 but with overload, what is Overload? Is it like a hard mode?

[random locust]

no overload on A1

[strong sun]

Thanks.

[weary relic]

Ways to make it harder in game

[random locust]

on A1 you can choose between high (main objective) and Extreme (extra for experts)

[weary relic]

No actual difficulty settings

[strong sun]

So it's like harder objectives for a challenge basically I gotcha

[weary relic]

Yep

[random locust]

exactly

[craggy pier]

Optional objectives are fun

[weary relic]

Ye

[random locust]

For A2 PE: ||What is optimum tool loadout? teams I'm In have been taking 1 mine, 1 foam, 2 autosentries but I feel like after opening overload bulkhead the mines and foam are kinda useless, though they combo well during the 2 easy doors of main obj.||

[weary relic]

||4 bio||

Tbh. We ran one of each type. Me with bio ofc

And if you say 4 bio not best, you’re wrong. It’s just too OP for normies

[random locust]

[minor fractal]

||Mines and foam are still useful on the cluster alarm to get into the extreme zone, and it doesn't really matter that you have them as long as you don't refill them. You're going to need a lot of tool for sentry anyway, you don't need more than two.||

[random locust]

Alright, ||i guess we just have to do a better job at holding tool for the sentries then so they are ready when we need them. also is double auto or 1 burst 1 auto better?||

[minor fractal]

||Auto tends to be better for cases where you need to delay, such as doing scans, but burst is better for actually killing things. I would use autos for alarms specifically and bursts for things like reactors and door clearing.||

[random locust]

Ok good to know, thanks for the advice Rayalot

[ivory river]

Guys, did anyone try to use matchmaking last hours? Because right now i think he's don't work correctly. And I don't think the problem is with the current online.

[gilded jolt]

Ye its kinda broken rn I have heard

[ivory river]

On the start of rundown he's working perfect. But after last patch it doesn't work.

@lilac fulcrum do you think the matchmake doesn't work because last patch something broke?

[distant ice]

You sure it's not just the time of day when things are slow?

[ivory river]

I'm sure

I trying to find lobby then online was 3000 people

And i'm not alone with this problem. Check steam forums

[pastel fiber]

I just bought the game, I was surprise about performance, with a 7700k and gtx 1070 I can hit 105-110fps with maxed out settings...
All zones are equivalent in term of performance or should I expect huges drops in others part of the game?

[heavy narwhal]

Any tips on doing the uplink verification for C1 Extreme?

[crisp anchor]

is there much replay value in GTFO

[hard wasp]

very much so, all of the levels are replaced every 3-4 months and brand new content is added

[craggy pier]

@crisp anchor There is a lot of replay value in the current rundown, especially if you want to do all the optional objectives

And what Chxse said

[swift reef]

Plus duos and solo exist which change the experience if you’re willing to go that far

[crisp anchor]

would comparisons to Tarkov be apt? I'm just wondering if there's any real sustained progression, and how diverse the gameplay is (like stealth, utility type shit, types of firefights)

🐒

[hard wasp]

hmm there is a comparison to be made but not much
for progression, there is no real reward for winning other than bragging rights currently. in the future there will be a full fledged weapon and character customization system which will make clearing the levels actually worth it. don't expect tarkov-level customization, but i believe it will be pretty good.
gameplay-wise, there are a bunch of different scenarios that pop up in practically every level. stealthing quietly and slowly, going loud in rooms and cleaning them up, full-blown alarms with constant waves, and more. there's tons of strategies and tips and tricks to learn

the game is very hardcore like tarkov, and you have to put in a ton of hours to really understand the game

[crisp anchor]

yo cheers

I guess the only other thing is like

is there an actual story or anything to get into? I understand there's prob some sort of lore, like every game has these days, but yeah

[hard wasp]

each rundown has had a bit of a story, and they all sort of connect together. but it's not obvious and you have to look for it. as for the lore, it comes from environmental storytelling and text/audio logs placed around the complex, which offer tidbits of information and clues as to what happened. the devs don't like to give us much 😛 but when they do give us something it's extremely exciting

[swift reef]

^

[crisp anchor]

are you able to take your time in that sense, like finding a log or text and chilling for a little bit to go through it

[hard wasp]

you can read about the previous 3 rundowns on the wiki, including logs as well

[swift reef]

!wiki logs

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/Logs

GTFO Wiki

Logs

Logs are small pieces of writing found on specific terminals in some expeditions.
They are found using the LOGS command in a terminal, they are read using the READ command in a terminal.

[swift reef]

There is an audio log in the first level

[hard wasp]

the logs aren't found there, they're on each rundown's specific page. we might move them soon though

[swift reef]

Oh

[distant ice]

I just bought the game, I was surprise about performance, with a 7700k and gtx 1070 I can hit 105-110fps with maxed out settings...
All zones are equivalent in term of performance or should I expect huges drops in others part of the game?
@pastel fiber not equivalent but there's rarely drops. If it's fine during alarms, then it's fine pretty much always

[swift reef]

Isn’t there a lore logs section?

[hard wasp]

are you able to take your time in that sense, like finding a log or text and chilling for a little bit to go through it
@crisp anchor most of the levels you can take at your own pace but some have a timer or pressure to complete it

[crisp anchor]

cool

[hard wasp]

hope that helped 🙂

[crisp anchor]

yeah mate

is there anywhere I can have a look at possibly upcoming shit as well, like that customization you mentioned?

[hard wasp]

.t roadmap

[uneven gulch]

You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap

[crisp anchor]

chur

[crisp basin]

How is it playing from Western Europe over to NA ping wise?

[craggy pier]

Depends on the host's internet

[swift reef]

and your connection ot the host

[crisp basin]

Okay, thanks

[crisp basin]

the creatures don't react to in game voice do they?

[swift reef]

no

[rustic bear]

let me know if im wrong but on the road map it says yellow squares are in progress and green squares are complete, doesnt mention grey squares are these not started yet?

[distant ice]

pretty much

but could also effectively mean "not being worked on right now"

also note that roadmap isn't too accurate

[rustic bear]

thought as much all good just wanted to make sure i got it rightish 😄

[lilac fulcrum]

Grey is pretty much not started or not being actively worked on. For example some work has been done to various items, but it's not actually actively being worked on so not 'in progress'. in progress usually means that it'll eventually turn green for complete unless there's an issue.

[distant ice]

the fact that it's in the roadmap usually means that it'll eventually turn green for complete unless there's an issue.

[vague python]

Hello all,

Just wanted to ask, Am i the only one to have FPS drops in R4C2 ? like not only 10 or 20 but more like 40-50 fps drops. Kind of horrible when playing on 144hz display...

[lilac fulcrum]

We have seen some cases of FPS drop and working on optimizations

[vague python]

I only felt it for C2 personnally, will it be released soon?

[lilac fulcrum]

as soon as we can

[vague python]

Thanks !

[hard wasp]

it's cause these maps are huge af lol

[fading iron]

Do we have an idea if or when we're getting the completion stats from R3 from warden twitter?

[swift reef]

we will get them, no idea on time

maybe next week

[fading iron]

kk

[opal goblet]

anyone know how to use terminals?

[craggy pier]

LIST, QUERY, and PING are your best friends

You can filter stuff with list like resources, keys, cells, etc.

like LIST CELL

Or more specifically LIST CELL ZONE_21

[opal goblet]

gotcha

thanks :3

[craggy pier]

There's more stuff in the terminals like logs

Or objective type commands like uplinks

But that's a story for another time

Or you can type commands in the terminal and learn from there

why on earth would I ever use lock melters or long range flashrights?

Lock melters are silent

LRF is fine to sync in bigger areas, plus more visibility in dark rooms

[swift reef]

why wouldn't you use long range flashlight

[craggy pier]

in what situation would you need that extra light? if someone on my team has the radar or glowsticks, the long range flashlight is useless and probably can hurt me if it scans sensing sleepers

Not if you flick the flashlight to sync them up

You'll only alert them with the flashlight if you keep it open for too long or flash them when they're pulsating

so I should use the LRF to sync them for easier stealth?

Not should

Only if you want to use it

If not your guns have different flashlights, you can use that

[turbid barn]

https://prnt.sc/v79v9i What is the fourth skull? I know Hard, Extreme, and Overload not the last one

[craggy pier]

||Prisoner Efficiency||, when you do all the optional stuff in an expedition ||Main+Extreme+Overload||

[craggy pier]

what do you guys suggest for best weapon combos? I've been using the autopistol a lot and its great but I don't know how I feel about my other weapon, been meandering between charge up machine gun and shotguns

[distant ice]

autopistol does a lot of stagger and no killing

you might want to try HAR cuz it also has the stagger property

shotguns are very common as far as specials go

[slender tartan]

Just curious before I buy the game. Is there VOIP in game for the new matchmaking feature?

[distant ice]

yes

and surprisingly good quality

[green silo]

Is the biotracker really worth it? (seems useless unless everything goes to shit as opposed to an extra turret) Do you guys think it makes up for it with security scan potential?

[swift reef]

It is pretty good to at least bring one

more is useless

[distant ice]

biotracker is a tool

[slender tartan]

@distant ice was that in response to the VOIP?

[distant ice]

its usefulness depends on how you use it

yes

[swift reef]

with the biotracker clearing rooms is much easier and you have a better visual of enemies

plus you save tool refill

[slender tartan]

And is it viable to match make with randoms and use ingame chat or is it that much better to lfg in this discord?

[craggy pier]

biotracker is good for coordinating teams imo, but experienced teams doesn't really need em

it's always better to LFG since people here are more likely to be dedicated/experienced

[green silo]

let me rephrase then, because its main use is MOVING targets; SUBJECTIVELY do you think it works well to determine the approach door during security scans to prevent wasted time at other doors?

[swift reef]

It is a wallhack

yes, helped a lot of time with c-foam and where to move

[slender tartan]

Thank you guys 🙂 think im gonna buy the game now

[swift reef]

good luck

👍

[green silo]

sorry, i know its a weird question hahaha cus its like limited use tool

aight leonardo, think ill give it another try sometime

[swift reef]

it has infinite use

[craggy pier]

yeah if you're quick enough, then you can c-foam a door and then use the extra time to mine it I guess

but in general, they spawn two rooms away and you can typically do good guesswork at their preferred path

[green silo]

^didn't know that, nice

[swift reef]

you also save tool refill with it

[green silo]

^also fair point

[swift reef]

when you get used to it you feel handicapped not having the wall hacks

[craggy pier]

I'd say marking moving enemies also helps slightly with visibility

if there's a horde of them, and some of them crawl, it can be annoying to see the crawling ones

[swift reef]

also to see their direction

[slender tartan]

Also is it always worth running a full squad? or is 2 player also viable? Havent been following too long and I heard there was no scaling to difficulity

[craggy pier]

you can solo if you're ballsy enough

[swift reef]

squad is where you want to start

[craggy pier]

^

[swift reef]

later on when you know how the game works and become skilled you can start doing duos and solos

which are much harder

[slender tartan]

Solid thank you

[craggy pier]

tbf though, in duos, you can keep the levels resources between each other so it's not like

the hardest most impossible thing ever

whereas in squad, you gotta be way more selective in how you dole out resources

[swift reef]

you have less people

in duos you rely much more on your teammate

[craggy pier]

yeah it's definitely harder overall, just there are a few upsides to less people

[swift reef]

it becomes funner if you play it with a friend, and is usually more tense

[hot jolt]

hey, about the colours of the name of teammates. Is there any reason why I always get the same color?

[swift reef]

it depends on which slot you are

host will always be the same character and color

[hot jolt]

makes sense. Ty

[tulip acorn]

After A1, should we do A2, or B1?

[lilac fulcrum]

It's best to go in order
All A's, then all B's, etc

[tulip acorn]

Cheers

[rich mango]

So has any of you run into issues during the extreme part of B1? Sometimes the timer stops and enemies upon death start moonwalking without falling over etc, not to mention enemies seemingly turning invisible. I've both been with people encountering it and encountered it myself multiple times
Can't find anyone mentioning it anywhere so figured I'd ask here

[spark wolf]

It means your connection to the host isn't that great so the game just kind of breaks

[hybrid jasper]

That sounds like latency

[spark wolf]

more common during ||reactors|| like B1 extreme

[hybrid jasper]

I have a question about mines

When a horde breaks down a door, is it better to place the mine as close to the door as possible and facing across the doorway (so that the instant it breaks, the mine goes off), or should it be on an angled surface so that it goes off when more enemies have entered the room (and by extension, the blast radius)?

[tardy granite]

usually facing into the room

into the door*

it works in the previous rundown cause it does a cone shape, but in this rundown it feels different

hybrids usually blocks the entire mine

leaving the 10+20 sleepers behind safe

even after putting 2 mines facing into a door at different angle

only took out 2 hybrids out of the whole wave

[hybrid jasper]

Has anyone tried putting mines above the sleepers?

If the blast damage considers weak points, that could be a good way to maximize the damage.

[spark wolf]

It does

[hybrid jasper]

Interesting

[spark wolf]

Or at least it did in the previous rundown

Don't think that's been changed

[hybrid jasper]

I'm guessing it still does, considering enemies can block the damage from a direction

[spark wolf]

But it doesn't help much when it comes to the small enemies

because they'd generally get killed anyway

it's helpful for the bigger enemies

[hybrid jasper]

I was thinking moreso that hybrids generally stand upright, so they cover less area from above and they wouldn't block all the damage to other enemies.

[distant ice]

it should be able to hit weakspots still but nobody knows how it picks what to hit

since it can't hit multiple bodyparts on the same dude

[keen solar]

2 head and 2 back. That's for me and it works most of the time

[distant ice]

A mine is right on 100 max damage iirc, hybrid has 300

It shouldn't take 4

Even more so for crits

[random locust]

what is best loadout for carrying A2 PE? ||I've been taking AutoPistol (stagger the sleepers threatening teammates), sniper(fo' dem scouts), Mines( for alarms at beginning/scout waves) Usually end up kiting near the end due to ammo shortages, team takes 1 foam, 2 autos||

[minor fractal]

I usually run the tool that I think will be hardest to coordinate (so mines or auto sentry), and the carry loadout I tend to run is carbine+pump so that I can solo kill large amounts of enemies.

[red crater]

does anyone know if the game will get steam achievements? i love to collect that stuff in games 🙂

[lilac fulcrum]

yes it will, check the roadmap backlog

[uneven gulch]

You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap

[red crater]

awesome! thank you! dropped a bookmark on that 🙂

[stark pivot]

will they ever add a kick button?

[worthy pollen]

maybe in the future , MM is still in alpha

[stark pivot]

(for that one dickhead that goes afk mid-match and you can't complete the bioscan)

[worthy pollen]

today we just get to cry when that happens

[rotund ridge]

Why does my health go down slowly in B1?

I have a infection level 19%

Any way you can get rid of infection?

[random locust]

infection caps max hp

disinfect packs, disinfect stations

[rotund ridge]

Danke shen 😄

[random locust]

o ye and you can get rid of down to 85% infection if you get up to 100% infection for free over time!

3rd way to disinfect

[rotund ridge]

okay

[fringe sinew]

Just had my first Rundown with two friends of mine finished after 4 hours and a few attempts total.
We all are beginners and went into the game with no knowledge.

The questions are:

1. Is it supposed to take that long?
2. Do we need to take out every enemy or is it actually recommended not to?
   2.1 If we trigger an alarm, will we get rushed by enemies we went around?
3. Do Glow Sticks have any use, aside from making a good rave party with two sentries in the room?
4. how get better aim?
5. Asking for general tips allowed here?
   5.1 Any general tips?

[stark pivot]

how deep do you guys think the complex goes down?

[gilded jolt]

Pretty deep

[stark pivot]

since r4 is my first rundown. what's the deepest the dropcage has ever gone?

[gilded jolt]

R4D2 is the deepest

[stark pivot]

has it gone deeper in previous rundowns

of all time?

[gilded jolt]

Yep

Never gone over 1000m before

[stark pivot]

a km down is a lot

[young pagoda]

how long did it take?
you should take out most enemies, but it is not neccisary to take out certain enemies as they may not end up mattering (definitely take out big guys though)
depending out how close they are to you
light
get gud
trust your teammates, and make sure that you keep trying 🙂

@fringe sinew

[sudden burrow]

Aim just comes with practice, yeah

[fringe sinew]

@young pagoda Thank you.
It took us 58 minutes for the first level there.

[sudden burrow]

Not panicking is a good start though

[young pagoda]

to start, that's not horrible

[craggy pier]

And make sure your sensitivity settings are comfortable; specially the aim one.

[fringe sinew]

Alright, alright.
Thanks for all the answers.
The aim one was more of a joke question, but even those replies have been well received. (:

[stark pivot]

and yet, the complex still isn't as deep as the deepest mine on earth.

I can't tell if the complex is a mine turned research facility or what the hell it is

[gilded jolt]

Well we dont know how deep it is

[young pagoda]

well, we must wait for more lore

deepest current depth is around 1000 meters

might have one hit 1500

who knows?

[craggy pier]

Yes, though its a bit buggy due to it being in alpha but it gets the job done

[crisp anchor]

oop

[tired comet]

effective/easy way to deal with scouts? and two scouts in one room?

scout as in moving tentacle monsters

[steel valley]

hammer

[gentle oracle]

full charge to the head

[steel valley]

wait for them to walk towards you if you aren't confident

[gentle oracle]

watch their pathing to see how they patrol so you know they wont turn around when you go for the kill

you can also jump through the tendrils and kill them if youre fast enough

[steel valley]

i'd assume if hes asking for an easy way to deal with them he wouldn't try that lol

[gentle oracle]

yeah

just lettin them know

[tired comet]

ya we are semi new/unskilled group haha

[nova kite]

Grab a sniper

[steel valley]

scouts are also pretty deaf/blind

[nova kite]

Have an empty room between you and the scout

Take the shot

And then another

[tired comet]

we had a sniper but there were two in the same room :/

[steel valley]

you can sprint/flashlight scouts and they won't alert, they'll just tentacle

so you can manipulate when they stop

[gentle oracle]

yeah if youre far enough away they wont hear the sniper

but of course that isnt always an option

[nova kite]

It's literally 1 room in-between you and the scout

[tired comet]

ohh

[gentle oracle]

in certain cases you cant get line of sight from 2 rooms away

[nova kite]

Yeah

In a2 you have multiple chances for clean sniper shots

[steel valley]

honestly just practice hammering, you'll need to learn it at some point anyway

may as well practice on easy levels with safety nets

[nova kite]

You can also sync shot the scouts with a choke mod

Oh yeah I need pratice murdering scouts with a hammer

[tired comet]

thanks for the answers guys

[gentle oracle]

what level is giving you scout trouble anyway?

[tired comet]

b1

all the way to the last blood door (on ez mode) and ran out of supplies for the class 4

went looking for more supplies and died

[gentle oracle]

2 spawning in the same room in that zone seems like some reeeeal shit rng

[nova kite]

Wait don't those scouts instantly activate

[gentle oracle]

no?

[nova kite]

Behind the blood door?

[tawdry leaf]

no tandem bonk?

[tired comet]

we didnt get thru the blood door

[gentle oracle]

the scouts cant be back there

[nova kite]

Oh huh

I'm dumb

Ignore be

Me

[gentle oracle]

thats the extraction

like that last zone is at least 6 areas big and you only need to go in 3 of those rooms to get the extract

[nova kite]

Hhhh

What's the best map to pratice Scout bonking

[gentle oracle]

c2 maybe?

its behind a class 3 alarm door but

||many scout room||

[steel valley]

b2 has a lot in the overload door, but its far out

i haven't gone past c1 yet though

[gentle oracle]

._.

sorry

[nova kite]

I just want a fast way to get to a scout

And bonk it

Over and over and over again

[steel valley]

i practiced a lot in r2

r2c1 had tons of scouts in the start

[gentle oracle]

i dont think you got a really fast one in r4...

[nova kite]

;-;

[gentle oracle]

i guess b2 maybe?

if youre willing to put up with ||error alarm||

[nova kite]

I trained my scout sniping skills in r2

[gentle oracle]

and then theres d2 but im not talking about that rn

seems like a lot of trouble to get to that first scout...

even if it is really close

[nova kite]

hhh

I still don't know if the sniper is room based distance or meters based distance

[gentle oracle]

i think its meters

[nova kite]

How many?

[gentle oracle]

often times ive seen scouts get sniped and only a portion of the sleepers in the room get alerted

[minor fractal]

Somewhere around the 40-50m mark.

[nova kite]

I know the door method is gaurenteed

I was way below 40m in the a2 overload door

[gentle oracle]

well i think the door method doesnt work if there are enemies next to the scout when it dies

[nova kite]

The scout was hugging the bulkhead and I was through the double door

[gentle oracle]

cause after opening the door enemies who were near the scout get alerted

[nova kite]

Yeah because bodies falling count as an activation

With the doors you have to watch where the scout it

But I never tried with distance because I keep waking up the entire room

[minor fractal]

Still fairly sure bodies falling doesn't do jack shit. Just based on distance from a killed, damaged, or woken sleeper.

[nova kite]

Hm...

We should do mechanics testing togetherrrrr one day

[minor fractal]

||B2 might be the only decent scout hunting map, since it has the only scout not behind an alarm in z88||

[nova kite]

I mean we can try it with normal sleepers too

Just stand far back enough and plink

[worthy pollen]

nothing give more pleasure that a player that confidently can kill a scout without fear or seconds thoughts

[minor fractal]

||C1 is okay, but the only scout not behind alarms has a low chance to even spawn.||

[craggy pier]

On the topics of scouts I do think scouts behind blood doors can be avoided from screaming if everyone gets behind another door/zone

Me and a couple randoms managed to pull it off in C1

We thought it about it and gave it a go and somehow it worked

[nova kite]

Yeah it would be the same thing as a sniper rule

[craggy pier]

But I think it’s RNG based on if the sleepers decide to scream or not so yea

[nova kite]

Mhm

But if lucky the scout will just do nothing

Because you effectively just put a room in-between you and the Scout

And if you have LOS you can take a clean sniper shot

[craggy pier]

If you can get behind a door in time without the aggroed sleepers screaming you’ve effectively stoped the room from aggroing

[nova kite]

The room just has to be very small lol

[craggy pier]

Or the door has to be close to the blood door

[nova kite]

Ye

[craggy pier]

But when I get home I’m testing if the XII syringes can still one shot via full charge to the back of the head

[nova kite]

It cant

[craggy pier]

Interested to see if it works

[nova kite]

I tried jt

It cant

[craggy pier]

Haven’t tried it so ima just give it a go

[nova kite]

His head was clean gone and I had to bonk him again with a full charge to end him

[craggy pier]

We’ll see if that’s the case and thankfully B1 is long and Almost guaranteed to have one giant

[nova kite]

Also do you need to charge your hammer if you're hitting a strykers occupit

[minor fractal]

What enemy?

[nova kite]

Normal sleepers

Non shooters

[minor fractal]

For IIX, tho?

[nova kite]

No

[minor fractal]

That should still work unless it's not 3x anymore

[nova kite]

I mean just clicking once without charging your hammer onna sleepers occupit

[minor fractal]

But when I get home I’m testing if the XII syringes can still one shot via full charge to the back of the head
???

Also, occiput on strikers no charge should still be ohko

[nova kite]

What about sbooters

[minor fractal]

Same

[nova kite]

Wait wut

[minor fractal]

I've done it for both this rundown fuckin' loads.

[nova kite]

I thought shooters had more health

[minor fractal]

They have a higher head crit

[nova kite]

Oh

[minor fractal]

5x vs 3x on strikers

[nova kite]

Probably to compensate health

[minor fractal]

Yah, they're weaker but only if you're more accurate.

[nova kite]

I'm going to bed it's 2 am

[minor fractal]

Fair

G'night

[distant ice]

Hol' up does bc oneshot bodyshot strikers

[paper adder]

Is anyone else having mega trouble headshotting? My aim isnt normally this pepega but they just move so much.

[swift reef]

You usually want to shoot at them when they’re running towards you. It’s harder to get them when they move side to side, so wait for them to stand still or charge.

What weapon are you using?

[distant ice]

Their movement is pretty damn annoying

[paper adder]

I often play anything paired with revolver

[distant ice]

But also they can push each other now and teleport when switching animations

[paper adder]

Cus it oneshots alot of stuff if i dont suck 🙂

[craggy pier]

this game is difficult to aim in compared to other games for some reason

maybe it is the movement, but it's a lot harder to hit shots

[paper adder]

Also the fact that my camera decides to do a backflip if i ever take damage :/

[craggy pier]

It's harder to aim because the sleepers move erratically and quickly

[neon gust]

all sleepers have aimpuch

simple answer: dont get hit

another answer: use cover and run and shoot

[rain python]

as dauda says

dodge and shoot

[quiet glen]

Anyone got any help for a loadout with B2 Overload - Been using revolver for the many scouts, but sometimes we're waiting on position a long time.

[supple gust]

Revolver? Just take sniper

[keen solar]

Sniper? You need to hammer all of them if you need to do overload

[fading tangle]

Technically no

[distant ice]

@hasty mauve Fixed unintentional nerf on Pistol semi.
elaborate pls 🤔

[hasty mauve]

took to many bullets to kill them,

as you pointed out

[distant ice]

true but what was done to fix it

[hasty mauve]

we fixed it

😛

[distant ice]

boi

gonna make me drop in and do it myself huh

[hasty mauve]

takes 3 shot to kill a striker again if one is a head shot

instead of 4

[distant ice]

so bs damage increased

[hasty mauve]

and some multiplier if I'm not mistaken, wasn't me who did the change 🙂

[distant ice]

and hs mult 🤔

is the patch pushed yet?

[neon gust]

since you are here, can i ask why the change on the spread on combat shooty :[

[craggy pier]

i've heard "KE guns" being thrown around a lot as a term, and I've never heard that before, what does it actually mean

[distant ice]

kill efficiency

kills per refill most likely

[craggy pier]

i figured that's what that meant, just based on the letters i made the guess but i didn't think that people were really going that deep into the numbers to figure that out

[distant ice]

that's not that deep tbh

[hasty mauve]

just pushed it now Storm

[distant ice]

and it's a core stat as far as resource management goes

[craggy pier]

i just find a gun i like using and stick with it, though there are a few obvious weapons that aren't as good as others, or maybe i'm just not using them right

[distant ice]

some people like information

nobody's telling you to use the best paper weapons

[fading tangle]

I wish steam had a "check for update" feature on games

having to re-open it is kinda silly

[neon gust]

yeah

[craggy pier]

speaking of check for update, i am angry at that

[neon gust]

it is silly

[rotund jasper]

I mean

[hard wasp]

mine just updates automatically

[rotund jasper]

It made me confused

[craggy pier]

the other day my boy and i got to the final alarm door on B1 with just the two of us and we couldn't get two more who wanted to join us because of a 2 kb update

[distant ice]

it decides whether it wants to update

[rotund jasper]

yeah

like the problem that I didn't get the update

[placid violet]

is there a guide on the weapons stats? I like reading numbers

[rotund jasper]

turns out it updated without telling me

[neon gust]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/gqnc39/damage_numbers_for_every_gun_spreadsheet/?sort=top

[distant ice]

it's a work in progress

[fading tangle]

there was a hotfix just now, so it's probably not accurate if you do read something

[neon gust]

Its still been uptdated

[distant ice]

also ereggia says he won't do all stats this time around

the multipliers make it real annoying

also the fact that everything's a float but that's old

[ivory river]

"We are still working on the bigger patch as I've mentioned earlier! " @hasty mauve And that's coming in this patch?

[distant ice]

r4.5

i'm more interested in another thing

plans of R5 2020?

[lilac fulcrum]

The bigger patch isn't another rundown or half, etc. it's mostly optimizations for some FPS issues we've seen, etc.

[ivory river]

So you fix the optimization on C2 right?

[lilac fulcrum]

That's a future patch

#patch-notes will list what's included in each patch

[fading tangle]

when will the game be patched to excuse how bad I am at it

[ivory river]

And just reminder, after previus patch the characters don't have a legs in first person.

[keen solar]

I don’t think R5 will be out this year. R4 is pretty big and people might need extra time to complete the layer difficulty and the prisoner efficiency

[fading tangle]

I really do hope that R5 doesn't come until 2021

[rotund jasper]

Return the R1 MG

[gilded jolt]

Why are we talking about R5, R4 has been out for 5 days

[rotund jasper]

Joking

[keen solar]

Yeah lol and most of the people only do the main objective lol

[hard wasp]

nah R5 will come out 2019 yall

[fading tangle]

R2 was out for only a couple months

[rotund jasper]

Main Obj is the best

[maiden cypress]

||is it possible to do overload for B2 without th

damn

||is it possible to do overload for B2 without the extreme error alarm because the 2 bulkhead keys seem to be in the extreme room? I haven't actually been to overload yet so I have no idea how it is||

[worthy pollen]

||inside overload is the key to open the door for extreme
but iirc yeah u can just complete overload and skip extreme but still you need to have completed the main objective||

[maiden cypress]

||that's weird because the first time I played B2 we used the first key to unlock the bulkhead to High, and then there weren't any other key in High to open Overload with||

it could have been a miss query, thank you!

[worthy pollen]

besto luck || always open the difficulty to higher and higher if they put you the option if you dont then u just locked the overload / extreme ||

[maiden cypress]

||yea i figured as much, I was just wondering because if that was the case then they are basically forcing the prisoner efficiency path since you can't do overload without extreme when the keys are both in extreme. Well only way to find out is to actually play the level jdhfjdh||

[gilded jolt]

@maiden cypress ||You can only do overload if you go in extreme I think||

[maiden cypress]

gotcha, thanks!

||i really don't like that you can't do overload by itself tho :'), I really just want to see a lot of this rundown without an error alarm blaring in the background||

[worthy pollen]

|| thats the sound of winning , son ||

[maiden cypress]

||then is it worth it in the end, dad?||

||i hear it every second I'm awake, and then in my sleep, it doesn't leave me, it haunts me.||

[nova kite]

It is apart of me

[fading tangle]

all them spoiler tags tho

[worthy pollen]

cuz are spoilers

[fading tangle]

may as well go to spoiler chat and discuss there

[worthy pollen]

i have muted spoiler chat

[nova kite]

Just play the game.more

Lol

[maiden cypress]

im afraid to step foot into spoiler chat until i've done the rundown lmao

[nova kite]

Then you don't have to worry about spoilers

[maiden cypress]

or well

until the ban lifts in 2 days

[worthy pollen]

like i know all spoilers but its so boring going to spoiler chat , is like 2 clicks away

also lets go to general or gtfo chat now that this isnt a question related to gtfo

[maiden cypress]

mhmm

[hexed solar]

Anyone know what was the unintended pistol nerf that got fixed?

[nova kite]

What

[hexed solar]

from the patch notes - Fixed unintentional nerf on Pistol semi.

[keen solar]

You need extra bullets to kill a sleepers

[maiden cypress]

Ludvig was here earlier and i remember it was something like strikers took 4 shots to kill even with a headshot?

[lilac fulcrum]

pistol wasn't doing as much damage as it should have

[hexed solar]

oh alright thanks

[fading tangle]

that explains why the pistol was feeling like doodoo

may go back to it now

[nova kite]

Wait when was the accidental.nerf?

[wraith bluff]

Guys as a group if 2 how to activite layered difficulty?

[nova kite]

Bulkhead key

You can find a bulkhead key in the map which then you put it in the terminal

Which then grants you access to layered difficulty zones

[wraith bluff]

Oh okay i thought it was an option i couldnt find in thé lobby

[tawdry leaf]

extreme in B2 always has 2 bulk keys

so yeah you gotta alarm the whole thing to do the overload lol

[wraith bluff]

Thanks, and how do i find this Key ? Me and my fellow newbie havent found one yet in our runs in A1

[tawdry leaf]

we had a go at it last night with swifty and it was fun

[wraith bluff]

Oh okay i see

[hexed solar]

You can find the key by just looking for it on the terminal

and ping it like any normal item

[wraith bluff]

Got it, thanks guys !

Just got the game with a friend and we're getting destroyed lol

[hexed solar]

Well thing is the game is balanced around 4 players and doesnt scale its difficulty with fewer people
Its not impossible with smaller squads, but its definitely harder

[rain pulsar]

Are bulkhead doors actually optional or am I just bad at finding hard drives

[gilded jolt]

||The high difficulty bulkheads are necessary, extreme/overload are not|| @rain pulsar

[rain pulsar]

So the skull doors ?

[gilded jolt]

Yes

The ones that say high

[rain pulsar]

So, is there a good build to solo A1? I find myself consistently dying when I have to open level 3 security alerts for the bulkhead door room

[nova kite]

Mine deployer

[weary relic]

Bio

If you are competent in killing

[pure mason]

Hello to everyone! What are your thoughts about the new auto sentry?

[weary relic]

Carbine and HAR are good primaries and the shotguns are all good

MG is also a good crowd weapon

And auto sentry, it’s amazing for stagger, not killing. Just like the riotgun (autopistol)

[pure mason]

And auto sentry, it’s amazing for stagger, not killing. Just like the riotgun (autopistol)
@weary relic Thank you! So it's like you have to finish off the enemy.

[weary relic]

Stagger is that stumble animation. Meaning they can’t move or attack you

But ye. Good opportunity to attack back then

[sudden burrow]

Auto-sentry feels nice, but I haven't done any runs with the burst sentry to compare

[neon gust]

Burst sentry still the same ol same ol

But with more ammo now

You cant really compare the two since there purpose are different

[sudden burrow]

Yeah, it's tough

I've had a fine time doing runs with the auto, so like

Either it's not bad,or my group isn't bad

[neon gust]

If you wanna kill bring burst sentry if you wanna stagger bring auto sentry

Auto can still kill dont get me wrong but its staggering its in specialty

[keen solar]

I haven’t used burst sentry in this rundown.

I will say burst sentry is good if you only do the main objective. It is super inefficient when you do extreme and high. Auto sentry does a better job on those two and the stagger works way better

[sudden burrow]

Nah yeah, using it effectively is pretty different than effectively using the other sentries

[spiral sail]

How do the alarm armed doors work regarding enemy spawns? Is it limited to a set number of enemies or will it keep spawning enemies until i clear all of the security spots?

[rain pulsar]

The shotguns are too hit or miss

Sometimes they will one tap, others it will take three to four shots on regular sleepers

[sudden burrow]

Waves keep spawning until you finish the scans, yes

[spiral sail]

I don't mean to be rude, but doesn't that seem to be more aim related?

[sudden burrow]

I don't think they were replying to you x3

[paper adder]

Can i do matchmaking if i ever wanna go duo or only solo mm?