The message just above answers your question.
@peak crow Yeah, just saw. Thanks :)
#gtfo-related-questions
sand flicker
warped pulsar
Thoughts on the auto sentry so far? Literally crying rn cos they took away my shotgun sentry
@polar vapor
personally I love it, it has a crazy amount of ammo. it wont kill much but it staggers
warped pulsar
it had a good niche for door security
warped pulsar
making it shoot far was the issue, idk man mines are very ammo inneficent
imo
cause half the time youll have one guy trigger them
weary relic
wut
thats poor placement
takes some skill to use mines, and one mine can clear an entire wave
warped pulsar
you wont always get good placement oprotunites
jagged basin
Auto Sentry is very good combined with cfoam
you can place it facing horizontal along the door
and then cfoam the door
the stumble from the auto sentry will make the door last almost twice as long
ionic nexus
are we allowed to give tips? 
weary relic
@jagged basin yeah prob shouldn’t say that
lilac fulcrum
That's the plan Henx
ionic nexus
lilac fulcrum
how so?
ionic nexus
and having a single mission type wasn't? it makes balancing for newer players and older players easier, and you can choose how you want to play!
lilac fulcrum
How would you improve it? A way for newer players to get introduced to the game and have something difficult presented, while being able to also give something more difficult for seasoned players?
With sectors, you're essentially getting more expeditions as they are layered on top of each other, bigger maps, more to do. Do them if you want, or not.
Making E+ tiers is really difficult heh without making it unfun
granite surge
anyone else getting this glitch where dying doesn't allow the level to be restarted? And I'm unable to make a new lobby unless I close then open the game.
weary relic
distant ice
and levels always being linear af makes sense
ionic nexus
theyre not meaningless if you know what each layer is supposed to accomplish lore wise : )
distant ice
it's a design choice not a right/wrong thing to do
i definitely wasn't expecting this many options but hot damn i'm pleasantly surprised i'd say
ofc i haven't really seen how much they change
@lilac fulcrum layered difficulty spoiler ||are the bulk heads supposed to keep spamming the setting? seems more like a bug than anything else, it's obnoxious||
lilac fulcrum
do you mean ||as you are walking through the door, the announcement it does?||
distant ice
the voice yeah
lilac fulcrum
If so that ||should stop after you leave a certain range like 15 meters or something||
distant ice
there's no point in repeating it more than once or twice though
cloud mango
do you mean ||as you are walking through the door, the announcement it does?||
I love the echo this announcement makes. Just so climatic: accessing the locked zone and hearing the 'alarm' echo through out the level
lilac fulcrum
I mean.. ||you're entering a locked area, with x type environment (high, extreme, etc) threat level, the bulkheads haven't been opened for a while it serves as a warning for anyone passing by, you've set off an alarm of sorts||
distant ice
||i'm aware but why keep it going indefinitely||
ionic nexus
||i wanna keep hearing it, it's badass||
distant ice
subjective i suppose then, i found it very distracting 
lilac fulcrum
because it's an alarm
ionic nexus
dont walk near and you wont hear it : )
cloud mango
Big brain right here
crude stream
how can i start a lobby with my friend and then fill the last 2 spots through matchmaking?
woven latch
so i have a question on the level B2 are the mob suppose to infinitely spawn and chase you? regardless of activating a security check/scan.
ionic nexus
what is this related too? the ||main gen cluster ending|| or ||third layer|| @woven latch
young pagoda
||so, I noticed something with the different level elevations, why are B2 through D2 near the same elevation?||
ionic nexus
||im pretty sure tiers are just based off difficulty and order in which you do these missions to make sense of what you're doing lorewise||
hearty socket
Re the opening player description, e.g.
Prisoner ID \d+
Section 4, Entrypoint d1
Alias "{user}"
...
mental eval UNSTABLE
...
Is there plan to eval players based on their gameplay?
craggy pier
Can someone tell me if D1 and D2 are in the new Datacenter enviroment?
weary relic
@craggy pier -.- you’ll find out
ionic nexus
i thought we where supposed to let others find out
swift reef
||What does the 1,1,0,0 represent?||
weary relic
It like this: Main path, Extreme, Overload, Proficiently
lilac fulcrum
prisoner efficiency 
weary relic
Yep
swift reef
That’s if you do all of them in 1 run right?
lilac fulcrum
ya
swift reef
Ok thx
swift reef
||I though that was the boss in D2||
swift reef
😟
reef coral
what are the filters we can use in the terminals other than hsu?
swift reef
You can list pretty much anything if that’s the case
reef coral
yea, idk i havent played in a long time and forgot how to work the termianls
im just trying to get it to list everything on the floor
got it tyvm
swift reef
You can also list resources by typing list res (zone number)
distant ice
So nothing was done about the "unintentional speed changes"?
frigid ember
When the description for the sniper says "hollow Point rounds" is this implying that it can now hit more than one target if they are lined up??????......
just wanted to see if anyone has tested it yet...
woven latch
@ionic nexus sorry im late but its like after the first cluster door we would be moving onto the next rooms and all of a sudden 3 more spawn from behind us and trigger the rest of the hoard in the room we have already cleared it kept happening til we died of course
torpid zephyr
Question with security doors, can you knock out all the guys first and then stand in the zones to unlock the door or you have to unlock it first to fully turn off the alarm
distant ice
Unlimited waves until you turn off the alarm
torpid zephyr
When enemies are beating, does one full charge up hammer kills or it takes two?
dusky shard
Does anyone know how to remove/kick a player from your group?
quiet glen
Anyone able to give a hint on how to deal with R4B2 - we've put 2 cells in but can't navigate through the intense fog.
mint burrow
Is it possible to softlock yourself in A2?
craggy pier
Hey guys, we are in the middle of A2. We chose to do "Extreme" first. Can't we do "Overload" now? We dont have another bulkhead key from the extreme area
craggy pier
Is this the case for all expeditions? Before we yeet ourselves into this position again
spiral kettle
What about the skins that are on the Rundown 4 leak picture? Are they still coming? @lilac fulcrum
You always have to look where the Bulk-Keys are. The terminal will help you ^^ @craggy pier
craggy pier
Thanks!
north ivy
Here's the question "?"
So if you will make an empty lobby, will people be able to connect to this lobby through matchmaking?
fading tangle
so if someone leaves the group at the lobby screen during matchmaking does it refill the slot automatically or no?
weary relic
I would assume yes, but I haven’t really used it
fading tangle
so many people disconnect at lobby or in the cage drop, it's annoying
lilac fulcrum
so if someone leaves the group at the lobby screen during matchmaking does it refill the slot automatically or no?
@fading tangle Once you see the "player joining" and the lobby is created, the game stops looking for more players, so to fill spots you'd need to go back to exit lobby and start searching again, or fill via other ways like sharing code in the discord. Hopefully in a future update we can improve that.
fading tangle
yeah that needs to be improved, thanks D0c
tacit token
ok so we're doing the first level, and we had a guy disconnect mid game and lost 2 hard drives
when he connected back, we got one of them back
does the other hard drive respawn somewhere else?
craggy pier
It should spawn where he DC'ed
raw marlin
What do tungsten rounds do?
supple gust
stagger enemies
rocky kite
What does precision shot mean?
vital sierra
Choke mode shotgun
round trail
is there any way to get soundtrack from the game?
sturdy dew
Not currently, though i think the devs said they might make it purchasable
"I'm glad to hear you enjoy my work! As mentioned earlier, don't expect the GTFO soundtrack to be filled with "bangers" like the Payday 2 soundtrack. The GTFO music focuses more on building the creepy atmosphere. There will probably be some sort of soundtrack release though, yeah."
round trail
aight thanks
steady folio
what does kill more enemies out of a wave, 2 burst sentries or 1 burst 1 auto?
craggy pier
MINES
steady folio
in certain situations yes, but not always, do they xD
meager shuttle
I see tiny tiny red dots on bio-scanner, what they are meant for?
worthy pollen
awake enemies
if you have those on the bio scanner and press the trigger button it will scan those and mark them behind walls
worthy pollen
mmmh you have picture?
worthy pollen
maybe it was a bugged monster i think that bug still exists
placid cobalt
its a bug thats been around since r3
if you see enemies thru a wall that are three rooms away from your current room they show up as smol red dots on le biotracker
and they just broken so you cant ping them on the bio at all
well its been around since R1 but became relavent in R3
meager shuttle
ahh I see, thanks 🙂
idle prism
Sorry not sure if this one is the right channel to ask this question but my friend and I are trying to try the matchmaking together but even if he joins the lobby and readies, it separates us.
Can you not matchmake as a group yet?
lilac fulcrum
Not yet, hopefully in the future
idle prism
Ah ok thank you
craggy pier
It's still in alpha so there's still time to improve and add stuff to matchmaking
dreamy sapphire
Is the back long jump new or has it always been in the game
dusky totem
hey guys
the fog ceiling in B2
is there like a fog repeller
or anything
why does it get closer when i plug in a battery
lilac fulcrum
Is the back long jump new or has it always been in the game
@dreamy sapphire what do you mean
weary relic
It’s a strat where you turn around while running and back dash to get a long period to look behind you
And it’s been round since we’ve been able to play the games
dreamy sapphire
So if you back dash and then jump backwards it seems to do a extended jump maybe 1.5x the standard. I think neko knows what I’m talking about
lilac fulcrum
Not aware of any changed around that
weary relic
Yeah. It’s been the same since at least R1, that’s as far back as my experience goes
So I’m betting since alpha and probably before
prime cobalt
I keep hearing how a lot of people think R2E1 was the best level, can someone tell me why because I am really curious on what made it so good
minor fractal
People just liked that it was difficult.
A lot of people who enjoyed it still thought it wasn't the best designed level.
Way too many resources during the early bits.
weary relic
it did have way too much res, if played in a way not designed to play it
by that i mean pulling every room and killing, not stealthing and being very particular about the res you grabbed
minor fractal
Even then, being particular would just mean you'd have fucktons of extra resources.
Because then you're still getting too many (albeit probably not quite as many) and just not using them.
weary relic
comfortable, i def wouldnt say extra
minor fractal
I mean, the almost-full alert strat could get through w/ max uses and 100% everything.
weary relic
i said not pulling
minor fractal
A bit more than comfortable I'd say.
If you're not pulling then you're getting almost that many resources and just not using them.
You won't quite get max resources, but you'll probably be 80+ everything with items to carry.
weary relic
-_-
ionic nexus
playing it the way its supposed to be played? i think pulling is a viable strat and mining. def a way to play and save resources
weary relic
then again solo is dif from squad, i cant remember how it was really with a squad
ionic nexus
or just solo through to get stuff while team waits, there many ways to get save resources and be left over with a lot for E1
weary relic
full solo you basically had to take the 2-3 packs total you got in a zone. Since almost all the boxes were locked
and too risky to deal with giants
high abyss
Question, does the matchmaking still match people into your lobby even if someone left?
craggy pier
It doesn't
high abyss
Nice.
hearty socket
Is there a solo play scenario in which the player doesn't have to run from an overwhelming enemy horde for the vastly largest part of the match?
hearty socket
Cause I like it slow. And if I run, I want to have sufficient means to fend myself. #Quaker
I don't like to just run.
dreamy sapphire
Yeah. It’s been the same since at least R1, that’s as far back as my experience goes
Thanks guess it’s just random I found it out right at the start of this rundown
weary relic
-_-
hollow verge
Does anyone have any data on how the heavy assault rifle compares to the normal assault rifle?
I've used the heavy assault rifle and I think it's rad. I'd like to know exactly how much more powerful it is, ammo efficiency, etc.
weary relic
much more
minor fractal
5.5 damage per shot vs 3.5 damage per shot.
distant ice
oh hey you got stats already
minor fractal
Yah, first thing our static did was drop into A1 and shoot one another
minor fractal
Somewhere between 7.5 and 8
I'll probably wait for Ereggia and the wiki to calculate the new efficiencies.
distant ice
🤔
so if it's 8 it'd be 1 hs 2 bodyshots
otherwise it's 1 hs 3 bodyshots, making it worse than without any buff
the shit
honestly the damage buff was out of left field, i'd say it's skewed logic thanks to rifle reviews with bugged heads
neon gust
Do we still have the head hitbox bug
neon gust
I wasnt paying attention since the envioroment are so beautiful
Combat shotgun spread its a little funny
I dont think you can kill something past 8 meters
vapid patio
I would hate to do a ping for it, but is there a stat sheet anywhere @minor fractal
minor fractal
minor fractal
Still needs to be updated
vapid patio
Still, thanks for some numbers, I always put together my own little sheet for ammo numbers, as a quick reference
queen garden
I'm doing the first level of GTFO with some friends and we got more than an hour into it and one of us disconnected and can't come back. It turns out they picked up the objective items and we can't finish the level now because of it. Do we just have to restart and do the level over again? Is this being worked on? Like, a global inventory of some sort to prevent this.
plucky sleet
what did he grab?
queen garden
the hard drives for the level
gilded jolt
The hard drives should be where he was when he disconnected @queen garden
queen garden
oh alright we'll head there now and look around
@gilded jolt thank you, we found them
hasty mauve
that's a bug @queen garden, they should be given to the host when a client leaves..
that's odd
since they are so hard to find just laying on the floor etc
gilded jolt
A few people have come in today saying the same thing happened to them
swift reef
Does anyone know what causes the issue of having the red x on your crosshair permanently?
distant ice
Team damage, can also be caused by sentries iirc
Just hit a teammate again and it'll go away
oblique plank
So I tried matchmaking. Midgame it started lagging out and we were thrown back into a lobby but 1 guy was missing. Does the entire game close down if 1 guy is lagging out or was he the host?
craggy pier
The host should transfer to the next person if the previous host leaves
If not the host probably returned everyone to lobby
young pagoda
||were any new music themes added this rundown?||
keen python
Lowest video settings get me only 2% more fps then highes settings on 1080p, so basicly no difference (and yes v-sync is off, 80fps).
How can this be?
umbral reef
At this resolution, you might be CPU limited and so lowering graphics settings won't change a lot especially since the game isn't very optimized yet
young pagoda
hey, does anyone know ||where the wave comes from on the first bulkhead door of A1?||
ionic nexus
Two sub zones away like every alarm 
young pagoda
specifically, which door do they come from? ||where 36 was, or the door in front?||
ionic nexus
Two sub zones away like every alarm
Rng or path of least resistance
I can’t say more than that
young pagoda
alright
craggy pier
List key
distant ice
list bulkhead and you'll see
distant ice
looking at the wrong zone perhaps
hard wasp
list key ez
dusky totem
nothing shows up when i do that
craggy pier
Someone may have picked it up already
dusky totem
none of us have it
restive reef
Lol rip
icy socket
question, do we get to use all of the 4 power cells in r4b1?
ionic nexus
Yes!
icy socket
neat, thanks
cobalt scarab
can you matchmake with a party?
swift reef
only in lfg for now
cobalt scarab
damn
lilac fulcrum
I've heard that you can have one person start matchmaking, and then copy the loby code and send it to a friend or they can join you from steam and you'll get put in teh same lobby, by ymmv
silk cave
I dont want to get completely spoiled, but can anybody tell me which level the new enemy is at
random locust
pretty sure ||D2|| cause if you read the flavour text it says ||new lifeform detected||
silk cave
oh ok. Thanks
swift reef
also the communications
toxic aurora
I have no idea but I hope there isn't too much infection this rundown
swift reef
how far are you?
toxic aurora
I'm A1
silk cave
Other question: What do people mean by 100% clear
swift reef
probably that you did all the difficulties in 1 run
silk cave
oh ok
swift reef
weary relic
Ye
silk cave
So when they sya lfg a1 100% clear, they mean they are trying to do everything in one round?
swift reef
weary relic
Yup
silk cave
Btw what does the last difficulty mean
swift reef
that's the badge if you complete everything in 1 run
weary relic
All in one ^
random locust
ah cool
lilac fulcrum
All 3 in one run
random locust
spooky
lilac fulcrum
not just all in a run, it needs to be the high 
, extreme and overload in the same, which leads to prisoner efficiency
weary relic
Yuh
random locust
how long is longest expedition now? 4 hours with a squad of real gamers?
lilac fulcrum
because technically you can have high and extreme so you could complete "all of those" but it wouldn't award PE
silk cave
Is there overload in A1 or just high and extreme?
toxic aurora
I also like how high is the lowest difficuly
weary relic
Just those two tobbe
silk cave
OK
swift reef
what is the approx time for 100% B-tier and C-tier levels?
rain python
Really depends on the team
weary relic
It can be done round an hour. Like michal said. All depends on team
swift reef
so it's doable in an hour without going too fast?
weary relic
Main ye. Layer you need to go fairly quick and know what you are doing as a team
frank scaffold
is there a new enemy in rundown 4 ?
sterile umbra
Is tungsten round what cuases staggering, or are they two seperate effects that do something different?
weary relic
Stagger
silk cave
Were at a1 and have already chosen to do hard . is there a way to do extreme in the same round after high or do you have to do extreme before high?
Pls answer quick
silk cave
How?
weary relic
You get a card in main layer
You can’t open the main bulkhead without going to extreme first however
But the objectives can be done in either order
silk cave
we used the one key in the zone 36 or something
sterile umbra
@weary relic That doesn't excatly answer my question. so does Tungsten rounds do something different then? or are they symbiotic effects for lack of a better term?
weary relic
Only stagger
silk cave
how do we get another key
weary relic
That’s it’s effect
There is a key in the extreme layer after one of the two generator powered doors iirc
And one after the two scan in main layer
sterile umbra
oh. so Tungsten rounds are what cause the staggering effect. ok
sterile umbra
Yeah. Tungsten sould penetrate, not stagger
silk cave
so if we used the one thats not in extreme and chose high difficulty, how do we get to the other in the extreme layer
weary relic
Yup ikr. Tungstens are AP
One you decide on high path, then you cannot choose to go back to extreme
It’s a design choice
sterile umbra
But if you go extreme you can go to hard? I'm curious. me and some frineds are gonna get together later tonight and go extereme first
weary relic
Basically with the layers. You start at the hardest and work your way to the easiest. When regarding bulkheads
More or less
Idk about all levels tho
sterile umbra
That's.... kinda stupid
weary relic
No. 1. It’s a design choice
2. There are other reasons why that happens 😉
distant ice
well it's made to make life harder for you
restive reef
Yep
distant ice
you wanted difficulty? here you go
sterile umbra
I know. But the idea is stupid in my opinion.
distant ice
i like that you don't have to do everything everywhere to unlock all levels, that's real nice
restive reef
Ok then don’t use it
sterile umbra
That is true
sterile umbra
I like that it's not a 100% all levels to go deeper
distant ice
at the same time it would've been nice if optional objectives were uncommon, they wouldn't become a routine
it's a trade-off.
sterile umbra
That's true as well
spark wolf
Just because it's optional doesn't take away the right to criticize it
sterile umbra
Exactly
spark wolf
Another interesting design decision was that you unlock tiers by having x completions for sectors
Which means it kind of isn't that optional anymore.
weary relic
That I dislike as well
spark wolf
If you want to play all levels, you have to do some of the "optional" paths.
distant ice
it's optional in the way that you don't have to do all of them
spark wolf
When the R3A1 key spawns in 252 or 253 i wouldn't call those zones optional zones
distant ice
if it means there's less of that crap i dislike on the main path and i can avoid it by completing stuff in other levels, i'm all for it
spark wolf
I think it's somewhat annoying that the main objective has to be cleared everytime.
New people will likely start with just the main path and when they later come back to try out something harder, they're forced to repeat what they've already done.
There's a lot of players that don't want to replay things
dusky totem
is B tier without the extra objectives suppose to match R3's B tier difficulty
distant ice
that's true, that is something you need to get used to
lilac fulcrum
A B tier main is balanced for b tier. roughly a b tier of other rundowns but won't always be the same
lilac fulcrum
distant ice
but i like the revolver
toxic aurora
same that's why I don't want it to be adjusted or nerfed
open roost
Why is A2 main objective not silent scan??? WHERE IS LOGIC?? Why does it start alarm and wave?
open roost
not if you wanted to activate the HSU before the extraction and already placed main objects
toxic aurora
are you new here
gtfo is about killing sleepers
the more sleepers the better
so the waves are a good thing
open roost
i have done all rundowns i am not new, they just make something not logical happen.
distant ice
quality logic solar
if you have played all rundowns then you know bs alarms have always been a thing
i'm surprised A1 is silent
open roost
alarms are if you scan secured objects like HSU. bringing silent main object never can start alarm.
ionic nexus
every cargo mission has been alarm extract
distant ice
alright then let me remind you of R2A1
ionic nexus
just set it outside the extract so they dont start the alarm
open roost
it makes no sence. They gave wrong info with no alarm A1 as training. I thought they fixed irrational extractions.
toxic aurora
it's not irrational you just have to deal with it
toxic aurora
devs could make an invisible tripwire somewhere in the map that starts infinte wave spawns and that is fine
distant ice
douchebag move but yes
toxic aurora
I mean the last rundown had a mission with infinite waves the entire time
ionic nexus
and why would A1 be the same as A2 mission wise? theyre two different levels
if you consider A to be training then A2 is training you to deal with alarm extract
open roost
and it was very reconizeable, you knew what were happening.....you had very clear info
toxic aurora
I mean you know what is happening the moment you see some awake sleepers
ionic nexus
and this is a game about learning from your mistake, whats wrong with not remembering cargo missions set off an alarm
open roost
I dont camp in discord. cargo mission is not even a term for me. There is only silent extraction or extraction after security scan. They give just completely wrong info with no alarm extraction in A1.
ionic nexus
then that's on you for not knowing different objectives have different scenarios... i think it's not wrong info but the right one that they are telling you not everything is silent
open roost
all 3 player i played with (not new) also assumed after A1 that silent extraction was fixed.
thorny current
Also do not assume something did not happen for a level in a tier and is true for the same levels in that tier. Only because A1 doesnt have an alarm doesnt mean it is the same for A2^^
jaunty relic
are they going to bring back the bulpup
thorny current
Maybe, maybe not
toxic aurora
I bet eventually
jaunty relic
I hope they bring back hel rifle
sudden fossil
How much damage does the new Heavy Assault rifle deal?
buoyant sail
can i find weapon stats somewhere? the ingame descriptions arent too good
hearty socket
By the way, what is that fps drop some time during the cage drop?
Normally, I get some 140+ fps. Only during that short time, the fps hits 20.
toxic aurora
that's becuase it's a loading screen
buoyant sail
no dmg stas it seems tho
toxic aurora
ppl measure how many shots to kill different targets, you could make damage stats from that
buoyant sail
so no proper stats anywhere
toxic aurora
well devs don't post stats no
fair mauve
ionic nexus
stats are kinda silly cause they don't mean much since you can beat any expedition with any weapon if you really believe in the heart of the cards
buoyant sail
stats do help tho to pick out weapons
distant ice
Stats will be up when they're up chill
toxic aurora
I don't really need stats because this game is not competitive
distant ice
And information is what you make of it, no need to get all defensive
hearty socket
I would like a scythe
distant ice
Not a reply to you
ionic nexus
yes please
buoyant sail
Oh
hearty socket
And a mask showing skull
ionic nexus
i wasnt defensive at all?
hearty socket
and a black coat
ionic nexus
just stating the obvious that you can beat the game with whatever
buoyant sail
unecessary comment tbh ¯_(ツ)_/¯
ionic nexus
and it makes me not play pub games cause people want to choose your loadout
swift reef
Depends on teammates
ionic nexus
it's not unnecessary, it's just good to make people know that they shouldnt force loadouts based on stats
distant ice
Being able to pick anything is no reason not to have stats
restive reef
Yeh
distant ice
And everyone with some basic sense is aware that stats aren't everything
buoyant sail
but having no stats can force you to pick one gun even more cause you have no clue if the others are more viable
ionic nexus
distant ice
Were and are, the sheet will be updated for r4
ionic nexus
choose what you like to use 
buoyant sail
anyways i just wanted to know if there was a speadsheet nothing more, ty
distant ice
Not atm cuz it's only 2nd day
toxic aurora
do you also play Aurora 4x by chance?
buoyant sail
oh i just got this game today
swift reef
The wiki will probably get updated before the spreadsheet
buoyant sail
last time before this was during beta
distant ice
Did wiki ever have numbers
minor fractal
Wiki never had and will never have numbers
swift reef
Sorry I meant that the wiki will be updated for R4 before we get a weapon stat spreadsheet
lilac fulcrum
If numbers are approved by the devs/made available in the game, sure, but other methods of getting stats like in-game testing are unreliable
minor fractal
Imagine believing skepticism.
distant ice
If it effectively works then it's good enough
Better than something we'll never get kek
tardy granite
hard wasp
@torpid zephyr #how-to-matchmake
distant ice
You're probably experiencing the after effects of head bug fix
Sleeper hp and mults seem unchanged and i doubt devs would mess with those
weary relic
Yup. Everything is the same besides the bug
craggy pier
Hmm
shell socket
is there a progression system in this game
weary relic
Not yet
craggy pier
Nope, there isn't any kind of progression yet
severe vale
what do the small red dots on the bio tracker mean? like so: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450036671786778626/769321247245991967/unknown.png
minor fractal
Scouts can be those too, if they're not a big red dot but a small red dot moving around.
craggy pier
It should fix itself once you enter the room or the specific area it's in
lilac fulcrum
Those small red dots are a bug we're aware of.
severe vale
thanks :)
weary relic
Yeah
I mean they aren’t hard to fix in a game, force them to interact with something
It’ll revert it to a red scannable dot
empty plover
So what exactly is the precision weapon multiplier ?
minor fractal
So it modifies head shot damage? Good to know.
uneven sequoia
How do you use matchmaking with a friend?
minor fractal
Do we know what weapons have precision multipliers?
lilac fulcrum
start mm, while you're searching copy lobby id and have friend join from that or join from steam friend list in game
minor fractal
Sniper is the only one advertised
minor fractal
I need to recheck MG damage at least.
weary relic
Ye in #patch-notes it does say reduced precision damage
So far it’s damage seems the same
minor fractal
If they reduced ammo capacity and precision then MG is just going to be trash.
Might be an okay small killer I guess
minor fractal
That can't be right, it did 2 damage?
spark wolf
i feel incredibly less efficient with my new loadout and im not even sure if it's because weapons bad or just me not using them effectively yet
ripe condor
whats a class 2 alarm? is it just a regular one?
restive reef
one big team and then a scan
minor fractal
Class [numeral] designates how many scan sets there are.
weary relic
@minor fractal do you mean old MG did 2, or new
minor fractal
New, but I'd probably just do a FF test instead.
weary relic
Ah
minor fractal
Took 19 autopistol shots after one MG shot
weary relic
I think damage is the same..... but I’ll FF test it later as well
minor fractal
Old damage was 6.6
supple mural
does anyone have a bug that the host gets kicked randomly and the whole lobby shuts down?
lilac fulcrum
Can you submit a #bug-reporting and include log files both from the host and from someone else in the lobby, would love to look into it further.
sleek torrent
What does the last difficulty symbol stand for? i haven't seen that one during the bulkhead scans
gilded jolt
Prisoner efficiency
flint heron
Prisoner efficiency (All Sectors in the same run)
weary relic
6.6.... ah ok
vernal canopy
Hi, which of the new difficulty settings is equal to lets say D1 from last rundown?
weary relic
hm
spice glade
A1 Extreme
gilded jolt
no
weary relic
about C tier
craggy pier
Try D2 Overload
weary relic
D tier is a bit harder
D1 from last rundown would be considered a c tier in most other rundowns
weary relic
yuh
gilded jolt
I mean I heard D2 prisoner efficiency is a little bit hard
weary relic
heh
dusky totem
how do you kill the new funny enemy
gilded jolt
Prob should talk about new enemy in spoiler chat
dusky totem
ok
craggy pier
Strikers do be looking funny at times
midnight mason
anyone know what is the 8.6mb update is for?
rocky kite
What is a cluster alarm?
gilded jolt
@midnight mason Patches probably
midnight mason
alright
unreal reef
Can you submit a #bug-reporting and include log files both from the host and from someone else in the lobby, would love to look into it further.
@lilac fulcrum This happened to me today too
"PancakesToday at 9:07 PM
does anyone have a bug that the host gets kicked randomly and the whole lobby shuts down?"
I submitted GTFO1-3968. Logs link attached.
random locust
Are A level extreme bonus objectives just as hard as a D level extreme bonus objectives? (no spoilers pls)
gilded jolt
no
random locust
epic
young pagoda
||what would you say is the tier difficulty of all the bonus objectives for the levels?||
worthy shore
has GTFO been lagging since the update? before no lag at all now my group is getting a ton
weary relic
yes, its known
worthy shore
so its cuz of the update?
lilac fulcrum
Mostly lag will be like your machine or host
shrewd dirge
what does PE mean, @ me.
gilded jolt
@shrewd dirge Probably Prisoner Efficiency
shrewd dirge
elaborate?
is that the last level of difficulty?
ah, thank you.
thats sufficient
meager shuttle
When I use syringe, I see blue bars above my health bar. What is that?
ionic nexus
infection
meager shuttle
Aside from getting pain absorption(yellow) and heal (red) it always appear above the health bar
ionic nexus
it caps your max hp
neon gust
no
meager shuttle
Wait what
neon gust
yellow serynge
give 3 times melee damage for 8 seconds
red give health
both gives infection
meager shuttle
What happens if I get lot of infection
craggy pier
max HP - Infection = total hp
meager shuttle
if my total hp reach blue bar, it will damage until it stops reaching the blue bars?
ionic nexus
if youre over 45 you slowly take DoT uintil you reach 45
meager shuttle
ah okay that makes sense, ty
ionic nexus
ionic nexus
syringe was in R3
meager shuttle
what is R we are in now?
gilded jolt
4
craggy pier
R4
meager shuttle
okok tyvm, sorry for lot of questions lol
I got this game when it's was first released
actually, more one question any new monsters introduced in R2 to R4?
gilded jolt
Yes
neon gust
👀
stark pivot
cool. would be cool if there was a body armor option that reduced the damage you took (but slows you down significantly)
neon gust
been suggested many times
stark pivot
I'm assuming the devs shot a big hole in that one.
neon gust
perhaps theyll expand the loudout system later in the future
stark pivot
Since I'm new, why was the shotgun turret removed. (I'm assuming it was too op.)
stark pivot
doesn't seem like a shotgun turret... looks like the burst turret fires rifle ammo
that's fair
we're on rundown 4?
meager shuttle
how do you specify list zone_51_area_A
ionic nexus
you dont list subzones
meager shuttle
just only zone_51?
ionic nexus
you can ping an item in the the zone
stark pivot
which rundown version was the best received i wonder
meager shuttle
R1 was memorable for me and my friends tbh
gilded jolt
It had good level design
meager shuttle
but I can't really say much since I never did R2/R3
yea
"wave defense"
and sneaking version
gilded jolt
I never got far in R1 or R2
stark pivot
which rundown are we on now. 4 or 5?
gilded jolt
4
meager shuttle
my friends and I finished everything in R1
but if hardest level, I'd say C3
C2*
stark pivot
i will praise the devs for putting effort into the sound of their game. the sound design in this game is incredible for an early access game
ionic nexus
simon viklund is a genius
stark pivot
I hope the reactor startup test isn't in r4.....
ionic nexus
gilded jolt
||The reactor startup test is in R4||
meager shuttle
:T which level?
gilded jolt
You can tell by reading the level descriptions on the rundown page
stark pivot
b1 is cancer.....
meager shuttle
one thing I would recommend to do first in that level, is search everything in terminal before carrying ur plan out
swift reef
||where is the third bulkhead key for A2?||
zenith sun
||In the overload zone.||
swift reef
||so you can't do extreme first?||\
flint heron
||if you want to complete every layer, choose the hardest difficulty at the bulkhead dc first, extreme over main and OVERLOAD over extreme||
steel valley
could someone dm me a pic of the rundown screen for r4? i'm currently away from home and i'd like to see how many expeditions there are (i got it now :))
gilded jolt
gotcha
tame gyro
what does rundown mean?
ionic nexus
rundown is basically like a season of missions that don't return
and it's a game that basically keeps gaining new content with each new season
cosmic grove
in r3 were you able to res peeople while running around?
gilded jolt
Ye
cosmic grove
can you still in r4?
gilded jolt
Idk
worthy pollen
i dont think so
flint heron
no you can't anymore
flint heron
yeah it was a bug
craggy pier
Is there a way to see people you have played with through random matchmaking?
gilded jolt
I do not think so
gilded jolt
I mean if you remember the steam names they might have similar discord names
swift reef
do some weapons have holster times or is it only visual?
silent sigil
So for A1, is there a way to find the location of the hard drives through a terminal?
swift reef
yes
craggy pier
Yes, hard drives are pingable
swift reef
they are called HDD
silent sigil
Oh
swift reef
on the terminals
silent sigil
So just ping HDD?
swift reef
HDD_###
silent sigil
And it'll list their positions?
swift reef
yes
silent sigil
Yeah, but A1 doesn't actually have the numbers
swift reef
you can do list HDD 34
silent sigil
It just tells you to find 6 hard drives
Without individual numbers
Ah, and that will show all the HDDs in area 34?
craggy pier
LIST HDD ZONE_34
silent sigil
I see, nice
craggy pier
To be exact
silent sigil
That is good to know
swift reef
or LIST HDD 34
silent sigil
Because we basically looked around until we found some
swift reef
||You can't find 6 of them before the last alarm||
craggy pier
You'll get used to just always scanning all the rooms for lockers
silent sigil
Nice
craggy pier
A friend taught me how to spam pings quickly, and I will not share it
Because I can't explain properly
silent sigil
And are maps and objectives static?
For example, in B1 it asked to charge 3 generators, do generators change on each run?
distant ice
i don't actually know right now
some types of objectives changed locations completely, in past rundowns generator locations were constant, just numbers different
swift reef
usually terminals or carryable objects are randomized
although terminals stay constant but the one you need might be different
silent sigil
Also, do auto turrets actually kill enemies?
silent sigil
I don't know, the guy I played with told that they mostly stun enemies
silent sigil
I see
silent sigil
Why?
swift reef
because the shooters are really tanky in their body
and the sentry doesn't aim for the head
silent sigil
Ah
compact hill
what do you get out of completing optional missions?
worthy pollen
the ability to play the lower missions
compact hill
so some only unlock if you beat both objectives?
distant ice
no rewards in the game for now
as for unlocking, you can see the requirements for the tiers in rundown menu
restive viper
Does "layered difficulty" mean the game spawns less enemies if you play as a duo or 3 man squad?
swift reef
no
royal vortex
vivid granite
Have they changed something about the enemies?
when i get close to them with the flashlight off and not moving they still agro.
young pagoda
are you crouched and/or jumping
sturdy wave
so how does matchmaking work?
vivid granite
im crouched
young pagoda
hmm
vivid granite
and its a good distance away that i cant hit them.
swift reef
so how does matchmaking work?
@sturdy wave you just click on the level and select the matchmaking option, t is for voice chat
sturdy wave
oh cool thx
swift reef
np
distant ice
If you have a controller on you might be moving a tiny bit
vivid granite
mouse and keyboard. but i'll try again later
ivory river
Devs, how about how about a free weekend to celebrate the game's anniversary? This will attract new players and in General will be pleasant for those people who wanted to try the game but had doubts.
swift reef
use gtfo game suggestions or DM @uneven gulch for suggestions
steel valley
can you do the layered difficulty sectors in any order?
steel valley
oh so you can only do one per expedition?
vital sierra
oh
swift reef
I think you can always do all of them
vital sierra
you will have ||1 key per sector||
man
everything i'm going to say are gonna be spoiler
steel valley
ok gotcha
vital sierra
but, to be straight forward
||some sector will have a key to tell you to choose between Extreme or Overload||
||some sector will tell you to choose between main obj or optional obj||
so
just keep in mind those
you could just skip optional and go for main if it too hard
or
||you'll make mistake and be force to go to optional obj to get the key for main||
distant ice
@ivory river @swift reef that suggestion has been made already
keen slate
...what the effective way to deal with scout and the big guy?
ionic nexus
Hammer
vital sierra
use choke mod shotgun and snipe them
ionic nexus
Three hits to the back for big guy
keen slate
...cant even get close with those slik thing
ionic nexus
You have a window of time when you touch spaghetti to walk up and full charge head
You gotta charge the hammer while walking up though and don’t sprint
keen slate
...only have 1 shot?
ionic nexus
Full charge to the head kills it
ionic nexus
Oh, it takes three full charges to the back, you can have two others to do it with you
ionic nexus
Or you can ping pong stagger him with another where you off set the release of your charge
keen slate
...okw noted...tks for info
oblique plank
if you are 4 in a match made lobby, and 1 guy leaves. Do you have to exit and matchmade again? or will it try and find a replacement?
worthy pollen
exit and matchmake again
unless someone invite someone to the lobby with the lobby ID
hard wasp
yeah just get someone to join via LFG
stark girder
when choosing to do an optional bulkhead, do you NEED to complete the optional objective as well before leaving?
for example, if we've already completed hte primary objective and decide half way through attempting an optional objective that it's too hard, can we still extract without doing the optional objective?
worthy pollen
yeah if u can make it out alive
violet wave
||you'll make mistake and be force to go to optional obj to get the key for main||
@vital sierra So ||optional obj contains a second bulkhead sec key for main obj? is there any reward other than sheer stress in the optional obj?||
icy socket
is the door in r4b1 (zone 56, before warden scan) spawn infinite hordes?
fallen canopy
in the case of bloody doors, will it open immediately after the scan or not?
vast wharf
upon scanning doors with alarms, do enemies spawn continuously or they have a fix batch?
swift reef
Wdym?
vast wharf
While doing the scans the enemies spawn right? I'm wondering if those have a fix batch or they keep spawning until we finish all the scans
swift reef
They keep spawning until all scams are done but there is a cap for them
swift reef
Waves seem to spawn between time intervals if you kill any enemies
distant ice
not any, pretty sure it's below a certain point
sometimes you can run around with 10-12 alive forever
but since people told me that the amount of sleepers alarms spawn is different, that line might be different as well
restive reef
yes'
swift reef
actually?
neon gust
layered difficulty
some levels have three skulls: hard, extreme, overload
if you do all three you get prisioner efficiency
distant folio
ok thanks
I haven't been able to play anything but solo cause my group can't do anything till later so I couldn't really figure it out
heavy swallow
Anyone else been having problems with B1 extreme mission bugging out?
spark wolf
what's bugging out about it?
heavy swallow
While the reactor timer starts it stops the timer and freezes the game, the game may carry on for other players then freeze for them, became unplayable happened after three restarts x_X
Almost like the game desyncs or something
thorny current
Are the enemies walking on a spot? Do players walk on the spot? If so, then that is desync.
heavy swallow
enemies walk on spot, the objective freezes/timer ticks slower but players carry on, then speeds to to origional point again sometimes
keen python
can enemies still NOT spawning in the next rooom when making an alarm door or did they changed that?
thorny current
The system is still the same. They spawn 2 rooms away for your location. That was not changed.
distant ice
i thought i saw them spawn 1 room away during A1 ||uplink|| but idk
violet wave
Do things just keep spawning when you open a threat level extreme/optional door?
craggy pier
Is there going to be a party system???
Its so hard for me and my friends to play
😦
spark wolf
@heavy swallow that's desync, this game really shits itself when you have a bad connection to the host
It struggles more frequently during reactors
random locust
how 2 circle kite?
crystal blade
How 'random' are the missions? Just played one of the Tier B missions where ~3/4 of the Ammopacks (I literally queried all of them) were in the Extreme hazard zone. Is that just bad RNG or are certain areas seeded to have between X and Y ammopacks, etc?
minor fractal
Resources and enemies are decided by zone.
crystal blade
minor fractal
If there are 4 uses of ammo in z33, then there will always be 4 uses of ammo in z33 (with some variance depending on how they're split into packs).
crystal blade
Gotcha, geez.. gotta conserve ammo on that mission, then.
minor fractal
What expedition?
craggy pier
Where they spawn is rng
crystal blade
I wasn't the host, it was one of the B tiers.. Carry batteries to generators.
minor fractal
You can still see expedition in top right in lobby/pause menu, as well as in the objective text.
B1, tho.
Yah, main path is incredibly tight
crystal blade
Looking at my queries and what we found, ||2/3 of all ammo packs are in the Extreme path|| ;;
minor fractal
||There's a reason extreme path has lots of ammo, though.||
||You are meant to use a lot of resources while over there doing that objective, although there is a fair amount extra.||
full fog
if you do all three you get prisioner efficiency
is this like an achievement?
spice glade
pretty much
full fog
i see
crude hound
Hey guys if me and a duo want to play with a squad of four, is there a way to matchmake together?
wise thicket
craggy pier
If you use the LFG it'll be easier to play with your duo and 2 others, matchmaking is pretty new so I can't comment on that if you want to use that
stable abyss
Guys, in the A1 level, if you want to do the optional extreme objective will you also have to complete the HDD objective%?
vital sierra
@violet wave it's more fun doing optional obj
craggy pier
You have to do the optional first before progressing further
If you chose optional route
stable abyss
But won't there be a continuous alarm because of the uplink? xD
young pagoda
I thought prisoner efficiency was how fast you did certain missions?
craggy pier
Perhaps
violet wave
We opened optional and stuff wouldn't stop spawning
wise thicket
Which level it was this in
vital sierra
that's where the fun begin
stable abyss
I just don't get it cus like, we can't put 2 bulkhead keys in the same place O_o
wise thicket
You started a Perma alarm
stable abyss
So you saying that, I put the bulkhead key in ,choose optional obj, then what next
I can't find the rest of the HDD's cus the bulkhead door where the other HDD's are is closed
I'm lost lol
wise thicket
You have to find the bulkhead key in the extreme
stable abyss
Oh, so I CAN put 2 bulkhead keys
wise thicket
Ye
wise thicket
One for the main objective and others for other sectors
drowsy zinc
will it be in the halloween sale?
drowsy zinc
yeah just asking because when the current sale for it ends is two days before halloween
wise thicket
oh
drowsy zinc
yeah 20% off or somein like that
just asking cuz dont wanna buy it then find out it went for cheaper
gilded jolt
Well the current sale ends on the day that the steam sale is supposedly gonna start
Idk if they will start another sale the same day the previous one ends
drowsy zinc
ive seen it happen before with other games that is why i ask
money is abit tight for me right now
minor fractal
I would ask D0c about sales
gilded jolt
Well idk if he can talk about it
minor fractal
He usually answers questions about sales.
gilded jolt
He could not talk about whether or not it was going on sale at the beginning of R4
lilac fulcrum
I can't talk about future sales but 20% off is the most we've ever done
drowsy zinc
thanks and question
im planning on becoming a game developer is there anyway i can talk to one of you developers one on one?
lilac fulcrum
You can start by DMing me a little bit of info you're wanting to know and I'll try and answer or direct you a better path
drowsy zinc
thanks mate
slate arrow
So i got gifted the game a long time ago, and saw there was a big update but i didn't have time to play it back then and now i do 
so my question is i see a lot of people partying up via discord, and using discord voice, how does discord voice compare to the in game voice system? I kinda have both set up with push to talk on the same button should I avoid that? thanks in advance
lilac fulcrum
If you're already in discord probably best to stick with that, but they both work equally well
strong python
hello, if im playing with a friend, can we que somehow together for matchmaking?
slate arrow
thanks o7
lilac fulcrum
hello, if im playing with a friend, can we que somehow together for matchmaking?
@strong python start matchmaking, copy lobby id, have friend join from that before it finds all people
worthy pollen
d0c , that doesnt works your friend invited will find another lobby and you will end up on another lobby
already tried it and some people too
pastel fiber
I am planning on buying the game... How do you think it will run on my pc : 7700k, gtx 1070 and 16go of ram
ionic nexus
good
pastel fiber
Something like medium settings you think? By the way it will be o. 1080p resolution
weary relic
yes, itll run just fine
pastel fiber
Good then I ll buy it today
weary relic
pastel fiber
I prefer to make sure cause nowadays early access are not always running great xD
lilac fulcrum
For early access, this game plays really well compared to other ea games
craggy pier
For early access, this game plays really well compared to other ea games
Compared to some Triple A titles even
flat rock
so my question is i see a lot of people partying up via discord, and using discord voice, how does discord voice compare to the in game voice system? I kinda have both set up with push to talk on the same button should I avoid that? thanks in advance
@slate arrow I would say though that I wouldn't recommend using the same PTT key, if your teammates have the in-game VOIP on you will talk in double for them through both discord and the in-game. Although this is entirely up to you.
frank estuary
While jumping around to find interesting spots to get/climb to for fun, I've managed to first get myself so wedged up in a ceiling I couldn't conceivably get out, and find a cheese spot lmao
weary relic
oh?
frank estuary
Yuh
frank estuary
It takes about 10 seconds of crouch walking so it's pretty situational.
I mostly just like that I can get there because it opens up interesting options for me to climb on stuff I shouldn't haha
weary relic
hm
hot jolt
in B1 there are 4 cells and 4 generators to use them. There is one that is not listed in the objetive. What happens when you power up that generator?
worthy pollen
4 cells ? where you find the 4th ? im missing something ?
hot jolt
yes, there is one extra in 51
tawdry leaf
Look for the gens
hot jolt
oh, nevermind. Found out just now
hexed aspen
Sooo I just downloaded this game. Why do I not see a "Join game" button in my stage menu. I have yet to actually get into a game (if that matters, I didnt see a tutorial).
craggy pier
There's matchmaking
You have to click the level you want to play and either host or find others using matchmaking or in the Discord LFG
lilac fulcrum
The match making button shows up after clicking a level. There is no tutorial
hexed aspen
I see that. But how do I actually enter in a code or etc to join A specific room
lilac fulcrum
hexed aspen
I did and I do not see a spot to enter in a code or whatever