RIP D1
#gtfo-related-questions
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patent berry
What does the Expedition: Planning mean on the Roadmap?
minor fractal
Planning for the expeditions in R4? @patent berry
distant ice
"What exactly is the Expeditions: Planning mean on the Roadmap entail?"
You, 4 hours ago today
minor fractal
Repeating the same question 5 times isn't likely to give you anything new.
minor fractal
@patent berry You should clarify your question if the last three answers didn't do it for you.
weary relic
Rip
patent berry
Figures I would get anyone worth responding just smart remarks lol
placid cobalt
okay what now
lilac fulcrum
@patent berry I answered you here: https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/416907525460590593/727564681992077313
Can you clarify what you are wanting out of the question you are asking so I can answer it better.
weary relic
It’s the fact that it was asked multiple times
patent berry
Appreciate it I didnt see that message I apologise
Well I just tried multiple chat rooms in hopes of finding an answer I just got home from work so I haven't had time to check
weary relic
Ah
proud comet
Hi everybody, relatively new player, wondering if there's a rundown 'pun not intended' of how the multiplayer connectivity works? Specifically, tick rates? I've seen the unusually jerky framerates of the sleepers in firefights being blamed on lag and am wondering how reasonable of an explanation that is?
undone latch
Hey guys. Been playing for a while and have a question about the door spawn mechanics. I think it’s based on time it takes to complete the scans and also the number of enemies remaining? So for example if we kite the horde around and don’t kill many of them until we have completed all the scans on a level 3 security door quickly, we only get 1 wave. Are both related do you know or am I way off? Love this game it’s so intense!
craggy pier
When you activate an alarm waves will spawn indefinitely until you do all the scans, another wave will spawn if you kill enough sleepers
While the scans are not done
terse wadi
Hey, does the Small Hel Gun oneshot scouts on headshots?
terse wadi
Thank you
random locust
what is the most upvoted thing in the #gtfo-game-suggestions chat and has anything ever been added from there?
lilac fulcrum
@random locust
Allow sniper rounds to go through multiple enemies.
116 upvotes, 2 downvotes
Yes, stuff has been added from there.
random locust
epic
shrewd dirge
you make it sound like snipers will peirce r4
random locust
that makes upvoting things feel worthwhile
nah we prolly got the HEL weapons off that suggestion
shrewd dirge
ah
neat turret
What are you supposed to type in on the terminals on R3A3?
craggy pier
The sniper would just be OP.... If that was added... Whats the point of that when we got Hel weapons...
digital gate
to get the code:
logs
read reactor____.log
reactor commands:
reactor_startup - initates reactor startup sequence
reactor_verify ______
neat turret
Thank you
digital gate
np
dense ether
LOGS and READ are your go to commands for A3
they should definitely add more functionality to the terminals
distant ice
anyone notice sleepers still randomly alerting after opening doors
it usually goes like open the door - crouchwalk/walk in - stop as you see sleepers waking up - sleeper goes from just the waking up animation straight to alert
not even pulsing
and yes nobody moves or has the flashlight on, no controllers attached, yadda yadda
dense ether
happened to me yesterday twice
seemed odd, never happened before
i thought it was mby desync because of the host
keen solar
Can you DM of the detail please?
Like, which level, what happened, anything odd you were aware of before the room got triggered ... etc
languid pendant
do dev have intention to make the past rundown playable?
distant ice
i'll actually clip the vid next time it happens but otherwise i don't think there's anything specific about the map or whatever
no they don't
languid pendant
why?
distant ice
too much work to maintain
languid pendant
can u be more specific, my friends barely finish layer 3 of the game
weary relic
NO
distant ice
there's plenty of reasons to it but i forget
languid pendant
never had a chance to finish any rundown
distant ice
more specific on the why not the can 🤔
if we had previous rundowns that'd already be like 20 maps they'd have to keep updating, rebalancing, fixing bugs on and whatnot
with the map proliferation as rundowns go on it'd quickly become unmanageable
languid pendant
in my personal opinion the old map should still be present in the game now whether it's already in balance or not because it's been released alrdy. the old stage should also remain as the original without being changed even though there is an update on the mechanism. it's the unique point in some of the old stages, so it shouldn't be too complicated about this.
gusty falcon
It will split the player base, it will be hard to maintain. Updating every rundown's bugs instead of making new ones. But especially the player base being allover the rundowns will destroy the LFG.
@languid pendant
gusty falcon
The devs try to make the A levels in such a way that you learn, like a tutorial
And obviously not every level is for everyone. Just try to improve, ask around, meet new people and new mechanics
You'll finish the D's easely some day :)
lusty axle
how do you fucking join games
wispy plume
For the first time in gtfo, I got excited on Alpha map because it looked just like the actual alpha map but then it died as soon as the rooms totally broke off into random shit.
gusty falcon
?!?!
craggy pier
how do you fucking join games
Don't you fucking swear in this server ||joking||
jovial wharf
Watcho profanity my dog is on my lap looking at my screen
We need him to grow up with good role models
distant ice
what do you think is a safe distance for semi shotty to oneshot scouts from front and back
placid cobalt
it doesnt one shot them from the front
distant ice
head exists
placid cobalt
unless you're referring to head shots
distant ice
if i need to clarify
distant ice
really 
placid cobalt
if you look at 10 ingame meters its really long
distant ice
i think? i forget
placid cobalt
over 70 dmg?
distant ice
semi does 60 total, 6 per pellet
bc does 24 per shot
i'm using numbers from ray's sheet
distant ice
which are based on team damage
placid cobalt
those numbers are heavily and unnecessarily inflated
distant ice
semi does 60 damage to a teammate, therefore 60 damage
i see nothing wrong with that
distant ice
as long as it correlates correctly with whatever calculations you have it doesn't matter now does it
placid cobalt
its just i use the absolute numbers so theres gonna be confusion on my end
distant ice
how'd you get your numbers then
distant ice
and he got it from
placid cobalt
legitimate testing and mafs
distant ice
what did you use as base then
distant ice
mhm
well anyway it was almost enough to kill the scout
do sights actually affect spread on shotguns
doesn't look like it does, at least outer bounds
placid cobalt
it doesnt but the semi shotguns sights do show you the spread
distant ice
where should i be looking at to see that
placid cobalt
the orange bars at the top and bottom of the sight
imagine those bars connected with a ring
thats the spread
or max spread actually
distant ice
doesn't that make it just the blue bars
oh cool zone 10 can have 2 scouts in the same room too
assuming 11 as well then
placid cobalt
no it doesnt just make it the blue bars as those are far larger than the actual spread
just a perfect circle that has its lowest and highest point touching the middle of the bars
distant ice
ok
well that's a problem
semi isn't very good at killing scouts
so what's the 2nd best special to kill scouts and chargers with 🤔
trying to do C1 in duo rn and it's a bit of a problem even tho semi is our fav weapon
jovial wharf
Scouts and chargers? Get you that burst cannon ;3
You can execute a scout with a burst cannon if you're good apparently.
dense ether
Storm what is your first best way of killing them? Stealth?
distant ice
scouts?
hammer ofc
but in error zone we're kind of in a hurry
the fog room is also annoying to deal with otherwise
also it looks like error chargers like spawning on top of people
glad that hasn't changed since R2
spark wolf
you can bring a c foam grenade to help with the scout
but yeh if you get zone 17 it kind of sucks
they can easily spawn ahead in there and alert whatever
jovial wharf
Anyone just.. not like the B levels this rundown?
Besides D1, the B levels are the only ones I haven't cleared more than once.
jovial wharf
A isn't hard, but you still have to play the game if that makes sense.
I love the A levels, they're kind of relaxing after a while.
gusty falcon
I liked the A tier very much, the more I play D1 though. Damn I love it more and more
jovial wharf
D1 is really fun, it's just stressful and bullcrap sometimes.
When you finally get that alarm off and beat the miniboss? Sweet sweet relief.
No game got me like that since Dark Souls, when you finally beat a boss.
gusty falcon
Why can't I relate to this 🤔
shrewd dirge
Did you stroll through dark souls or have you simply not played it?
jovial wharf
I have 200 hours in DS3 and an unknown amount in DS2.
craggy pier
Nice
jovial wharf
Unknown cause I beat DS2 on console and I have no idea where the console went XD
shrewd dirge
i mean, i was more replying to S.R.A, but dank.
dense ether
I don't see people praising C1 but I feel like it is the best level this rundown
shrewd dirge
i liked it until there was a scan halfway into the wall.
dense ether
Towards the end or at the first alarm door?
shrewd dirge
end
dense ether
Well that's unfortunate. That room is big and messed up
fleet fiber
For B1 is it worth to do all alarm doors at once to take advantage of maximum enemy cap???
craggy pier
No
fleet fiber
:)
jovial wharf
The trick is to coordinate with everyone on the Discord.
If we all run the 3 alarm doors at the same time with everyone on the Discord..
The servers will crash and default to completing the rundown. Trust me.
I know all about computers, I'm a geologist. :3
fleet fiber
B)
analog abyss
is there any plan to add matchmaking in-game?
sturdy dew
yes
'tis on the roadmap
You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/
analog abyss
gonna be honest, not a fan of having to use external social for lfg, and the clipboard lobby id system is weird
ight bet
weary relic
After enough hours you start to prefer it
I honestly don’t want to mm like I used to
terse wadi
Hey, me and my buddies are struggling with D3, any quick tips or loadouts you can give us to help?
weary relic
A3?
terse wadi
yes, forgive me
shrewd dirge
cfoam mine sturret sturret?
digital gate
stay on the left stairs facing away from the reactor when sleepers attack you during the waves
terse wadi
We tried C-foam and three turrets, , and we tried one mine three turrets. Our last attempt was with four turrets.
shrewd dirge
a hel rifle is very nice to wipe a whole line of strikers.
random locust
^
shrewd dirge
what was the furthest you've gotten?
digital gate
our group did 2 sturrets 1 mine 1 bturret
terse wadi
usually round 5
shrewd dirge
dying to the security scans?
terse wadi
yes
random locust
bring C-foam and turtle the bottom door with all closed
terse wadi
Oki doki, we'll try that out! Thanks for the tips everyone
random locust
1 Sturret facing inward will increase longevity of the door
shrewd dirge
all turrets benefit from back damage.
hallow adder
is there npc,s i can play with?
shrewd dirge
all sleepers pretty much dont move at all behind a door, so the turrets will have just about 100% accuracy.
any npcs they could hobble together for this game would either be a nusance or completely OP
hallow adder
is the only way to get with people through friends and the discord
weary relic
Yeah
It’s really nice
Actually make people go out of their way to find ppl to play with
shrewd dirge
out of the many matches ive played, all of the people have been really nice.
there was one group that was too boisterous, so i couldnt focus and left.
was a good laugh tho
weary relic
Yeah. Not too many obnoxious players in The community
random locust
https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/585063132553281556/728068843691311194 So in reference to that image what is the area that the biotracker will tag in? is it like within all of the green and red areas? or some other combination?
lilac fulcrum
from what i've been told by the devs, what's visible on the screen
shrewd dirge
if anything enters the red region the bio tracker will beep.
random locust
thats not true cause you can ping scouts off screen if you aim at them
shrewd dirge
it has to be an active enemy tho
random locust
yep
shrewd dirge
in essence you can almost spin-compass for scouts.
even if you cant ping em
but it also is nice as an enemy compass as a scan starts.
random locust
but there are times where a scout is off the screen and you can ping if you aim at them
shrewd dirge
(aside from your ears)
random locust
hmmm
interesting
so everything on screen + red but you also get a blip when you aim at something that is not too far off screen
shrewd dirge
the knowledge of using the bio tracker for a long time, is my gift to you.
i wish the sound meter of the bio tracker was a bit more accurate tho.
can just barely make out croaking on it.
random locust
a small price to pay for situational awareness
digital gate
there's a sound meter on the bio?
neon gust
I wonder what the jump in unity versions would bring
placid cobalt
yes
neon gust
maybe that would actually fix the black void in between rooms
vital sierra
hitbox
placid cobalt
if you're referring to frequency thats a repeating wave form
random locust
theres no sound meter on the screen of th bioscan
but it is pretty quet
also @shrewd dirge do you know what the cause of the detection sound effect is precisely? turning away from the scout and back towards it is effective most of the time, but somethimes the sound effect plays twice
hmmmm
and theres another sound effect that plays after scanning the scout and then running away from it
happens 50m? away from the scout?
oh nvm thats just the cooldown for tagging finishing
lol I never knew that had a sound effect
OH
i get it
the detection sound occurs when you put your crosshair on an enemy OF ANY KIND
thats so cool
Also where do I put bug reports?
I found that picking up a syringe with a syringe causes bottom 2 fingers to clip through syringe
random locust
ye is big bug literally unplayable
weary relic
Big boog
shrewd dirge
yeah, cooldown beep, enemy beep; bio tracker has a lot of nice subtle things.
random locust
I never really used it heaps before I've just been a shotgun sentry mule
flat rock
Has anyone else ever had three scouts spawn in zone 13 of C1? Just had that happen for the first time and boy was that an experience.
flat rock
Interesting
I basically always get 2, so it was surprising when I got three in the zone
minor fractal
I've had three twice before, but I haven't gotten four or five yet.
13 is definitely the zone with the most scouts in C1 (and in this rundown).
weary relic
yeah, for sure
vital sierra
1 spawn in A
2 can spawn at the zone after you get out of fog
2 can spawn at sec doors zone
1 can spawn in G
if we used D0c word for it
then that's basically prove it
vital sierra
6?
distant ice
Biotracker makes the quiet sound more often the more enemies are present and the beep for moving enemies
Doesn't matter if it's on the bio screen as long as it's in range
random locust
how to beat giant a2 room solo? just mines and bullets?
distant ice
Get to the generator room first, then I'm pretty sure you can lure only a part of them at once by using gunshot noise
minor fractal
Personally, I would save up some ammo from the cell zones and use it to fight the titans while kiting them around 124B.
random locust
aight ill give those a go
stuck ether
what are the big guys who shoot and hit called
digital gate
hybrids
weary relic
yeye
dense ether
Sexy spiki hybrids
gusty falcon
Prisoners?
fallen garden
Hey, i don't really get how the detection system works, sometimes i feel like i can sneak past them, and others times i get detected. Sometimes i can take out an enemy without alerting others, sometimes i can't. Sometimes they spot me from far away, sometimes they don't. I really don't get it, does anyone know how it works?
digital gate
a good tip for moving around: don't run, crouch instead
when the guys are glowing, they're listening to their surroundings, you can move a tiny bit if you're near them
in the first glowing stage they will also be able to hear the deaths of nearby sleepers, so be careful before killing
in the second glowing stage, where they're having a little spazm, do not shine your light or move, doing these will cause them to turn red and scream, alerting the whole room to your presence
fallen garden
Oh shit, this is very good information thanks! I had heard the glow showed their weak spot.
digital gate
shining flashlights on them and moving will cause them to go into the next stage of alertness
kind of
most sleepers have a weak spot in their back and head
another weak spot is on the back of their head, this one is better to hit than the back and the head, as it has damage bonuses from both of them I believe
fallen garden
Cool. How do you effectively take down the big guys? They have so much damage, and it seems the only way to kill them is through shooting combat.
digital gate
you need around 4 people to fully charge hammers to take them down
1 person aiming for head the others aiming for the back
fallen garden
The only difference between the melee weapons are their apperance right?
digital gate
and if it fails to kill them it will at least weaken them
and you are correct
as of now, the only differences are appearance
fallen garden
Ok nice, thanks alot 🙂
digital gate
no problem
and if I recall correctly, strikers (the guys with their head split in 2 with lots of teeth) only need a hammer to be half charged with a headshot to kill them
but if you just like the security of a full charge hit then go ahead with that
fallen garden
👍
digital gate
also, tiny little mistake I made, sleepers can always hear you do stuff (move, kill, etc), it's just that they have a larger hearing radius when glowing
fallen garden
ok
low halo
If you place 2 mines next to each other will the first ones blast radius take out the second mine too?
distant ice
you have no idea the question you asked
it's complicated.
but basically they shouldn't chain as long as they're not on the same surface
you can drop in, place a few mines, shoot one and see what happens
low halo
Ah, yeah. Thanks lol. You're right. Its something easy to test. But I've been to cautious to try lol
distant ice
nothing's preventing you from just jumping in solo to test it
A1 first room only has a few sleepers if at all anyway
low halo
Yeah, I know. Just too lazy.. you caught me. Figured it was an easier thing to answer lol.
I also.. dont really know about the syringes very much. I've seen only yellow and red?. Idk how many colors their are and I know they give like 10 HP?.
distant ice
Yellow triples melee attack damage for a short time, red gives various amounts of hp
Seen it range 7-13 but it can go even further beyond probably
And trust me it ain't easier to answer that
low halo
Interesting. Only 2 colors. And I assume only on the first level?
distant ice
In lab environment
low halo
Also.. final question. Hopefully this is easy to answer?
Uhm. The PC terminals.. let's say I opened 3 lockers and there is 4 in the room.. but i didnt memorize the labels of the 3 I opened.
If I use a terminal in the same area and do.. root/list res
The 4 lockers show up. But out of those 4. Idk which one I left unopened to ping it?.
It says like status normal. On everything. If I wasnt counting the lockers how would I even know I didnt open one?.
distant ice
You wouldn't
low halo
Is there a way to see all the unopened lockers exclusively?. Oh
distant ice
Not rn and it's a QoL thing so it might take a while
I expect them to do something about it though
low halo
QoL?
distant ice
Quality of life
low halo
Ah
distant ice
One zone always has same amount of resources so you just learn to count those (and you can always ping)
Meanwhile consumables aren't limited to containers anyway
For those that matter you kinda learn to notice patterns too
jagged basin
It's supposed to show what lockers have resources in them / opened on the map but I believe it's bugged rn
Worked in R1 but I think the multiple resources in a locker borked it for R2
distant ice
Opened closed yes, has something in it, i never saw it
And the range at which things appear on map sucks anyway so you can miss some
jagged basin
We'll, there's icons in the map legend for ammo / medi, so I assume it's supposed to show you whats in a locker
Also, something I've noticed, things in a zone list are ordered by area
So the things at the top will be in area A if you query them
distant ice
Too bad area is not a displayed column
jagged basin
IKR??
I think that you should be able to list by area
But some people think that would make ping pointless
I don't think so but ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Like, "great, we know it's in this massive, fog filled room" how does that make ping redundant
Makes ping actually used for what it's name suggests, not for me ping'ing everything one by one to find out what area's have what in them
distant ice
Being able to list items in a generic set of rooms
...
being able to list items in a generic room
Real shit?
What kind of storage system wouldn't have that function anyway
flat rock
It's supposed to show what lockers have resources in them / opened on the map but I believe it's bugged rn
It may be bugged for some people, I can differentiate opened vs unopened lockers on the map thankfully
jagged basin
Sometimes opened lockers will show as closed lockers on the map
shrewd dirge
that bug really bugs me
flat rock
I had the issue in R2, I haven't had it yet this rundown
It seems to only affect certain people
flat rock
Interesting, I haven't heard about that one
spark wolf
there's even voice lines for it
jagged basin
If you pick a resource pack up and then put it back into a locker, it's removed from the terminal listing
spark wolf
"found ammo"
jagged basin
yeah the hitbox for the lockers is too big so they eat pings
if you get a box with vertical resources in it, you can ping them tho
Ping disinfect packs as dauda and he'll call them "ammo"
humble marsh
imo the WORST thing is when you try to pick up a 4 use pack next to another pack and it overflows to zero 😖
fleet fiber
My buddies and I had a problem on B1. Something must have spawned on the wall. We alerted a room and killed every sleeper that came at us. We checked around for a while and the battle music continued along with screeches occasionally. All of us heard this. Is this known bug?
We scanned every in^2 of the place
vital sierra
they can be stuck in one of the area near Sec door
if you move really far away
they can despawn
and spawn somewhere else closer to you
shrewd dirge
D1 ||how many hammers to back of hybrid?||
distant ice
same hp and modifiers as big shooter
shrewd dirge
So 4?
digital gate
||thought hybrids didn't have a head weak spot?||
shrewd dirge
Thought hybrids had no occ.
distant ice
what made you think that 🤔
digital gate
wiki
distant ice
they didn't have head mod until first patch of R2
then they were given one
if wiki says otherwise, well
@sturdy dew 
digital gate
yeah just looked on the wiki
distant ice
well if you can find a hybrid, shoot its head, you'll see the crit marker
shrewd dirge
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
minor fractal
This change occurred around the D2 and E1 release, I thought?
It might have also been at the time of the major level nerfs for B1, C1, C2, and D1.
distant ice
i forget when exactly
lone pecan
Just a random question, I got the game the other day so I'm still kinda new but I noticed there is a completed: # for each level you do; is there anything you gain from beating the same level more than once?
dense ether
street creed
jovial wharf
Legend says, if you complete each expedition on a rundown 50 times, you run the risk of hurting yourself because of frequent use of your hands and fingers.
Take care of yourself gamers, take breaks, stretch, and drink water.
jovial wharf
A good exercise is standing up and touching your toes.
dense ether
I've reached 10 A1 and 9 A2 completes
weary relic
not enough
dense ether
when you reach 10 D1 talk to me
dense ether
try me when you are at 100 A1
@weary relic I have a life :)) I guess you can do like 20-30 in a single day
dense ether
and i may do like 5 in a day
@weary relic rookie numbers
dense ether
Give me 3 people who communicate and have some idea about the level and I can do it
weary relic
well sucks to not have beat it yet
dense ether
didn't even get past the 2nd alarm door :))
weary relic
OOF
dense ether
in like 30 tries
weary relic
1st for me
dense ether
well good for having friends
dense ether
borrow me some of your friends?
hazy oak
Was D1 really nerfed? I've got two completes for it and I remember consistently getting to first mother early, but trying to help other guys post patch...It's a struggle to get to second scan.
weary relic
fixed not nerfed
vital sierra
fixed
weary relic
the enemies wont spawn inside of you anymore
vital sierra
if you continue to play the game and not restart the game as host
you will get multiple Birther
weary relic
its more fun with mutiple mothers
dense ether
I neeeeeeeed help
minor fractal
w/ what? @dense ether
weary relic
D1
shadow mica
Git gud
crude stream
the enemies wont spawn inside of you anymore
@weary relic
Unfortunately this is not true.
weary relic
They did fix it actually, that could be bad host desync
but you would know if you had played it pre-fix
minor fractal
Pretty sure they didn't fix it? Wasn't in #patch-notes either.
shadow mica
There is no way they've fixed it
It happens even when there isn't desync
Although desync does make it worse
weary relic
Ive noticed a change in spawn since day 1
just like the upped spawn chance of syringes, it could have been omitted from the notes
vital sierra
it spawn on a random choose player
but
just to clarify
what did they spawn on top of a player?
weary relic
both
vital sierra
ok
weary relic
that was the part that was fixed
weary relic
its changed but will happen if there are ppl in every room
vital sierra
so if
that player in A
they will choose to spawn far B or in C
you can manipulate this mechanic
and make them spawn somewhere else with
blocking their spawn by stand on top of that area
weary relic
probably yeah
vital sierra
but there is a side effect
if they don't have anywhere to spawn
they choose the first option
which is spawn in far B or in C
and there is an unlucky player in B
so they spawn on top of him
that's why you can see them spawn inside 389 or 390
1 player enter 389
the game choose that player
so they spawn either
at the spawn area ( because is far enough ) or inside 389
still valve
it it possible to stealth melee a hybrid?
still valve
thx
also @vital sierra you have probably been asked this already, but why your recent videos have voices of all players except your own
minor fractal
4 back also works (and is recommended)
vital sierra
i think my voice is a little "downer" so i didn't let it in
i felt weird
hearing my own voice speaking english
still valve
i see
weary relic
i agree
vital sierra
i'm asian
strange furnace
I'm probably missing something obvious, but I was doing A3 and once you get to the reactor all the doors are stuck. Is there any way to get them unstuck/did I miss something in previous rooms
minor fractal
@strange furnace Have you started the reactor?
strange furnace
I figured I had to go through the doors to start it, didn't see a control panel thing
Unless it's the pc?
minor fractal
Yes, it's the terminal in the center of the giant ass ominous room.
Doors in lockdown require the reactor to open them during code/verification segments.
strange furnace
Aah, like I expected. I was just being dumb
I'll see if i can figure out the codes and stuff then, thanks
strange furnace
Yea, can't find people to run a2 or a3 and gotta do those to unlock b
Figured I'd just do it solo
zenith sun
All i can say is good luck~
strange furnace
Ty ^^
minor fractal
You're pretty doomed for A3. A2 is a very easy solo, though.
urban flint
question from a noob. why use the shotgun over the combat shotgun? it just seems better in everyway
thorny current
The pump is better. It has more dmg than the combat. It can be used to kill big guys and to destroy hordes. Just like Storm said. It simpy has less ammo. It is prolly the best all-rounder from all the specials.
Still the combat has benefits. It is easy to use and can become pretty good in the right hands. It has more ammo and is actually good in killing small ones. Just kinda useless against big guys. I would say that is the main difference
I actually like the combat. Is a fun weapon
urban flint
cool! thanks guys!
distant ice
combat gets way more kills one shot per kill, which is not always possible and its reload sucks. also big guys and some other variants of enemies cough ||charger|| cough
urban flint
the mag one has a bad reload?
distant ice
among the worst
distant ice
semi fully reloads by putting shells in twice
thorny current
I dont mind the reload. It isnt that worse. You simply have to keep it in mind
distant ice
there's two kinds of reloads: "i'm fine reloading this while kiting/running" and "i'm not fine reloading this while kiting/running"
spark wolf
and if you actually got 12 kills with it, there's a very good chance that there isn't much left
distant ice
semi is the former, combat is the latter
distant ice
i'm not stupid but there's a significant difference in how much safety you need to do that
spark wolf
For pretty much all situations but solo, you'll have time to reload
distant ice
little did wesley know i play exclusively in duo
spark wolf
If you got 12 or near 12 kills
and use some of your primary
as well as having a teammate join you
surely you can kill 1 wave
and have enough time to reload for the next
distant ice
you need them in ~5 meters to oneshot them, 12 faces lining up one by one kindly to take a hit isn't happening
you'll get a pile of 5-6 and some crawlers hidden and ggs
spark wolf
intimidate to make them split
distant ice
either idk how to do that properly or it's not reliable
spark wolf
move around so that bad position they had becomes a good position
wait to shoot till they're about to attack
distant ice
which i meant by getting them in 5 meters
and for moving around, i'm scanning, if i'm gonna abandon my position i might as well take a hike
shrewd dirge
d1 ||can you still damage the mother while the warden door is opening?||
wanton arch
yeah
rain python
Yes but she instantly awakes and lets out babies
flat rock
Not true actually, I've many times run away after laying 2 mags into her and nothing spawns. She needs to be within a certain proximity of you to spawn
You can do the door thing though
sick zealot
She will wake and scream when you shoot her through the door. But no spawns until you get closer.
pulsar dew
so is there a trick to soloing expeditions?
or is it just optimal stealthing and getting those constant headshots
cause i tried to solo A1 and i got all the way to the final alarm door before i died
craggy pier
There's also the kiting mechanics
pulsar dew
yeah i ain't privy to those
craggy pier
It basically boils down to running the fuck around the map
unkempt junco
what weapon loadout is ideal for gtfo
digital gate
any you find that works
unkempt junco
i usually stick with a pistol/bullpup rifle and a shotgun because the shotgun you can usually 2 hit a big guy
combat shotty is good for massive hoards but it doesnt feel strong enough imo
digital gate
I can't stand the pistol
unkempt junco
what do u use?
digital gate
so I usually use the assault rifle (not that good), smg (pretty good), carbine (love the thing), or the bullpup rifle (god-tier)
unkempt junco
carbine is nice but its 4shot so if you miss you lose all that 4 bullets
i like the bullpup rifle
still valve
that reload time tho
unkempt junco
whats ur special
digital gate
depends
hel rifle/gun for crowds, sniper for raw killing power, shotgun for killing power but really close
unkempt junco
yeah i save the shotty for big guy, im usually in charge of getting the big guy since i shotty
distant ice
does turning on stairs change your hitbox? my buddy swears he bumped a sleeper by doing that
weary relic
no, but you will stand weird
dense ether
Only 3? And in terms of tools or even weapons?
flat rock
@willow geode are you referring to A2?
flat rock
Mine is helpful, other than that sentries would be nice to have. If you like using bio feel free to make use of it.
Weapons are really quite flexible, whatever you enjoy using is something you should bring
c-foam can be helpful, but it's not going to be overly helpful compared to a sentry or mine
willow geode
We tried mine but it seemed to deal too little damage
dense ether
The trick with mines is placement. Hard to get. I don't even know yet how to place them to maximize damage
I guess low if you want to hit many sleepers and high if you only want to get taller enemies, titans hybrids
flat rock
Mines are very powerful, you just need to make good use of placements like Mid mentioned. Play around with where you can put them and you'll find out some good spots for them to go on the doors
willow geode
So i should have like some high and some low right?
Also In a2 we start with like a bunch of fog so should we try to sneak in or just gun the big ones down right away
flat rock
You can do either of those options, but I find going back and dealing with them later to be the easier of the two to do.
Having them high is to deal with bigs, and they may not be used up if none spawn. Not a bad idea to have one higher up though
willow geode
Are there any ways to sneak pass them tho i thought you would get infected
Its also impossible to navigate in the fog
dense ether
Right as you start there is a path to your right
It avoids the whole fog and takes you to the security door
dense ether
Just look around a bit for it but dont walk too much in front or you will fall haha
No worries. If you need help you can always ask around here. A lot of people are helpful :)
flat rock
You can also walk past them, just take time to stop while they are light up
Have a person at a time walk past until you get comfortable with how walking will alert them
it may be more tedious than crouching past, but it saves hp
stuck marten
What is the best way to kill a large Sleeper?
I tried hitting it in the head with a full charged melee but do I need more than that.
minor fractal
Which variant, the striker titans?
stuck marten
I am starting Resuscitation there is a room with a Large Sleeper right next to the door its not a scout due to there was no tendrils its head was bulbous with black growths on it and it arches its back.
stuck marten
So guns blazing.
minor fractal
That or use an IIX syringe
distant ice
full charge to occiput and shooting time
distant ice
for solo i'd probably take smg shotgun
minor fractal
distant ice
don't even need the head do you
minor fractal
I think the multiplier varries
Anything less than occiput may not kill.
Back isn't an option for shooter titans anyway.
stuck marten
For the Big Shooter do I have to worry about the neck tendril?
stuck marten
Thanks for letting me know.
distant ice
they can only shoot
stuck marten
So Big Shooters just aim for the head and Big Sleeper like Striker just blow its body apart.
distant ice
all enemies take more damage from the back, most enemies take more damage to the head
if you're going in for a loud kill from stealth it's best to hit the occiput with a full charge first
note that they don't actually have back hitboxes, it's based on your position vs sleeper direction
stuck marten
Thanks for the advice I will consider this.
minor fractal
Do note that solo is highly discouraged for new players. It is a good way to learn, but expect to need teammates once you've reached the doors to 252 and 253. Alternatively, you can swap to A2 once you're comfortable, as it's far easier to solo.
distant ice
alerted the giant and rest in the alarm room i bet
distant ice
quality rng
stuck marten
So I need the syringe to one kill the Giant with my hammer?
stuck marten
good to know.
minor fractal
It only lasts 8 seconds and applies to your next successful melee hit.
distant ice
wasn't the duration rng too
distant ice
honestly they just love throwing it in everywhere
minor fractal
The infection you get might also indicate which roll you got.
sick zealot
The duration of the IIX syringe lasts 8 seconds. No rng on that.
minor fractal
Sample size?
fleet fiber
😆
rain python
387
weary relic
I can second the 8 seconds
jovial wharf
I mean.. the log on A1 even says it lasts 8 seconds.
rain python
What’s the sample size for that log
jovial wharf
..yes.
flat rock
Approximately yes many peoples
flat rock
But eight is VIII in Roman numerals ..
You only subtract from a numeral if it's one less, like how 9 is IX and 10 is X
weary relic
hmm
short cargo
can someone explain how to bhop without a running start?
short cargo
so its shift, jump then w and keeping jumping?
short cargo
thanks!
minor fractal
You should have a very small window if you start sprinting and jump at about the same time.
It's usually not recommended to initiate a sprint-hop in range of an enemy, though.
burnt girder
Not sure where to ask this but is there a well optimized video / advanced video settings guide somewhere that is trustworthy? I'm not sure what a few of the options mean
I have an i5 9600k with a 2070 Super and 32GB of ram and the game is installed on an NVME
keen junco
Max everything out it’ll be fine
burnt girder
What about "max render queue frames" and "cpu culling workload" ??
distant ice
cpu culling workload just puts more work on the CPU instead of GPU afaik
the other one is best set at 0 imo since messes with aiming
burnt girder
Do you know what cpu setting would be good with an i5 9600k?
distant ice
if you've got no frame problems i don't think you need to use it at all
haven't used it personally so i don't know what impact it has
hexed solar
In terms of rundowns, are the devs gonna keep making them after early access? Or will we get a more traditional mission system where all the missions are available at once?
hexed solar
yes
distant ice
kek
white blade
Hello. I'm brand new to this game. Finally beat A1 yesterday. I watched some videos online and saw a guy soloing it and he was downing the larger sleepers with one shot melee. How is this even possible?
distant ice
yellow syringe
white blade
Ohhhh so it's not armor it's like steroids?
distant ice
increases your damage ~3x
hexed solar
It gives your melee a short damage boost
white blade
Ok I'll have to rewatch but I'm not sure he used one
distant ice
if he didn't link me the vid i'll tell you
white blade
The video may have been a year old; has something changed in that time to now?
thorny current
Well the syringes are only avaiabe for like a month.
white blade
Wait NVM silly thought. He was soloing rundown A1 of vessel so no way it's that old
white blade
I'll rewatch if I see something different I'll post if not, you're correct
I'm super excited about this game. It's taken me six months to get a team of four but I can't play as much as I'd like. Glad I joined here and can hopefully make some chill new connections
thorny current
Do that. There are alot of nice people in this community. Also found some nice people
shrewd dirge
i challenge you:
immediately after pulling the first alarm in A1, what is the longest you can keep that door closed with 40 c-foam.
my record is 55 seconds after pulling the alarm.
distant ice
🤔
shrewd dirge
sell me on the assault rifle.
fleet fiber
Bullpup funner :)
white blade
I'm seeing videos where the enemies have red triangles on them. How do you do that?
weary relic
The Bio tracker creates the red triangles
wild widget
That should be after tagging em with the bio tracker
weary relic
pinged when they are MOVING
wild widget
Anyone got a bug where they couldn't give teammates supplies?
I couldn't see a mate's gun/hammer, and trying to give him ammo led to failure with the text "__ does not need ammunition"
Is there a fix to it or just the workaround
weary relic
Alt - F4
(Im actually being serious) I would restart the game
everyone, not just you
white blade
Crap I'm brand new and trying to solo stuff. I can't run the bio tracker I have to use mines but ty. Also @thorny current I went back and watched the video; indeed he does inject a yellow syringe to one shot a large sleeper. Ty.
worthy pollen
yeah youll learn a lot having people with you
solo just teach about a few things
white blade
Yeah I will. I almost solod R3A1
tardy falcon
the game doesn't scale down to the amount of people in the lobby. i would recommend running with a full team if youre new
white blade
I know it doesn't scale
As a new player I would prefer to go in blind with a new team instead of having a Sherpa take me thru. Is that possible to do thru using this discord? I want a team that's beaten R3A1 but hasn't done R3A2
tardy falcon
yea thats completely possible :D
you can ask for a strictly new player team in #lfg-beginners
white blade
I'm really into this game. I've tried to solo and experience every A rundown I can. A2 seems my most unsuccessful and baffling so far. Ok ty @tardy falcon
Do you guys know how much longer the vessel will operate for until rundown 4 comes out? I don't know where to find that countdown
tardy falcon
no problem. the previous rundowns actually arent available in game at the moment though, but you can play rundown 3 while its out
white blade
Right.
weary relic
itll prob be another 2 months, if not more before R4
tardy falcon
theres no set time yet but they said that they're taking a well deserved break for this month or so
you can check progress in the roadmap of the game
white blade
I know I can't play previous. There is a countdown timer on the rundown before it progresses on to the next rundown; perhaps this is old information
A couple of months (I hope) sounds good
weary relic
They only drop a timer when they officially announce the release of R4
white blade
Ah I see
weary relic
(or slightly before like in R2)
white blade
Wish I could have played earlier rundowns
weary relic
they were good, but it should only be better from here
tardy falcon
make sure to play this one then bc soon this will be an 'eariler' rundown
white blade
Are the guns that say rundown specific in yellow special in any way, like strong for this rundown in particular, or are they just new and added for R3
weary relic
possibly going away/changing for next R
white blade
Ok
weary relic
This R is a disappointment, R2 was quite difficult, whereas R3 is ehh
plus no more MG
no
white blade
< Noob. don't know what MG is. I'm running bullpup, hel gun and mines.
white blade
No
tardy falcon
garbage
weary relic
^
white blade
Nah brah
worthy pollen
pistol/deag
best
white blade
Oh boy
tardy falcon
i miss r1 pistol
weary relic
NO @craggy pier
tardy falcon
you sound like the type to use dmr
tardy falcon
???
white blade
Dmr kinda blows
tardy falcon
so you are the type to use dmr
weary relic
more ammo
tardy falcon
HAHAH nanosp knows whats up
white blade
You're*
tardy falcon
LMAOO
weary relic
no
tardy falcon
pistol isnt bad tho
tardy falcon
op r1 weapon
weary relic
^
tardy falcon
dmr bad
weary relic
I am
white blade
So hel gun
tardy falcon
ok dmr user
white blade
Have you used it effectively
weary relic
hel gun is situational
tardy falcon
im already talking to you??
weary relic
rifle is superior to dmr
white blade
I feel like if you can hit with it it is deadly
weary relic
(he cant)
tardy falcon
i think thats just the best you can do
weary relic
OOF
white blade
I don't understand "situational" rationally every moment is a situation. Isn't there a dominant set of guns right now? Like an R3 meta?
tardy falcon
yea its nice :D
weary relic
Bull is 'good'
white blade
It shreds but it's an ammo whore
random locust
bullpup bast gun
weary relic
long reload and bad pool of ammo
random locust
no
white blade
Bast?
tardy falcon
i think warden is just slightly challenged
white blade
Ffs lol
random locust
bast= best but on the 'a' level
white blade
Ok so what's my loadout
weary relic
only good for R1B2
white blade
Bullpup and what
weary relic
id say carbine/shotgun
white blade
What's the burst Canon? Is that the five burst charge thing?
tardy falcon
yep
white blade
Agreed
weary relic
yes
white blade
It's dogshit
tardy falcon
new guy understands this game now
weary relic
New guy understands more about the game than [R]
white blade
Negative
tardy falcon
yea bc?
white blade
I feel like hel gun is OP but you have to hit your shots
weary relic
ye
tardy falcon
dmr? bc?
white blade
It's better than the combat shotgun as far as range and stopping power
tardy falcon
at some point i think if you say that abt every guy, like you have
it might just be you
tardy falcon
[R]
weary relic
^
thats why [R] arent the last man standing, they are the first one down
except zearo
YES
(plays with a # of them)
white blade
Are there any rewards for beating expeditions or the reward is you beat it, congratulations you get to move on?
weary relic
not yet
tardy falcon
reliables for a reason 
weary relic
only moving on
white blade
I'm good with that
tardy falcon
nice
weary relic
noice
white blade
!register
weary relic
like a true dmr and bc user
tardy falcon
white blade
Ah that's bs
weary relic
tardy falcon
weary relic
white blade
Woa woa woa don't stick a fail sign on a new guy wtf
tardy falcon
f
weary relic
nah you are more knowledgeable than him
white blade
Boom deleted
spark wolf
best loadout is maul + drugs
weary relic
New guy>you
white blade
Lol
tardy falcon
sometimes i wonder is warden can speak in more than 1 word phrases
weary relic
@spark wolf Gavel + drugs
spark wolf
white blade
Gavel
white blade
No
spark wolf
looks like your opinion is wrong
white blade
No
weary relic
sledge for newbs
spark wolf
weary relic
like warden
white blade
Gavel
tardy falcon
its ok it cant get as bad as the dmr. its all good
weary relic
^
weary relic
dmr would be more useful as a melee weapon
white blade
Yes
tardy falcon
honestly
weary relic
^