might not ONLY be that, but they have stated that at least
#gtfo-related-questions
full sundial
slate wharf
Um, so, I read the how to matchmake, and I'm not seeing anything on the left side of the screen to enter in a join ID
jagged basin
You just have to have it in your clipboard, the game will auto detect it
jagged basin
Yeah just copy a lobby id and a button to join it will show up
austere hornet
I completely understand that, Ethan, that's why we've tried so many things and yet, still nothin'
full sundial
@slate wharf How would you change it? It currently says copy the lobby ID, then check your game, and click the join button
maybe adding (button appears when it detects the lobby ID on your clipboard)?
I think it seems pretty clear already tbh, but if you have a suggestion
slate wharf
I figured there was a button for joining where you then enter the ID, not it auto detecting if you copied an ID
full sundial
Yeah, but do you have a suggestion on how to make that more clear while not overcomplicating it?
slate wharf
Perhaps you could put in parenthesis next to step one that the game auto detects it, because with most games that I've played, you usually have to enter the join ID into a text box
I've just never heard of a game auto detecting stuff from your clipboard before.
full sundial
Same, this game was the first time something like that happened for me to matchmake, interesting system
long gulch
What does the LFG or LM stand for when people invite you to their party?
viral jungle
if you are talking about lfm , i believe its "looking for 1 more, 2 more, etc) and LFG Looking for game
oblique wind
i thought lfg was looking for group
viral jungle
that sounds more like it honestly i think you're right Jedi
What is the difference between "ExclusiveFullScreen" and "FullScreenWindow"?
meager junco
Is anyone here playing on a triple monitor setup?
twilit violet
what is a Class VII Alarm
sturdy dew
||an alarm with 7 sets of scans||
sturdy dew
:)
noble sierra
||Used to be a Class IX Alarm||
celest depot
Oh they rly nerfed that
That’s dumb
I rly liked the difficulty n made me n my first squad do some th0nking
vital sierra
people failed that level so much they have to nerf it
severe birch
Which Level is the Living Cieling in?
vital sierra
R1C2
craggy pier
@vital sierra @severe birch I'm intrigued... Do you have a screenshot of this ? It was in the very first rundown ?
severe birch
Its in the C level, the one with the title thats just ???, somewhere in the run theres a living Ceiling thats not a enemy.
@craggy pier ^
craggy pier
So it's R2C2 ?
severe birch
Yes
severe birch
Was trying to find a reference on the internet but I cant find it
severe birch
Really?
Odd, I cant find a picture on the internet
Any of you got a screenie of ti?
vital sierra
it was 3 month ago
severe birch
So its a limited time thing?
severe birch
Thank you , that helped alot
vital sierra
and now we have E level
pseudo epoch
ok so im hoping this is the right place to ask, im not sure but this is a channel for question so imma ask here. Will there be a time when GTFO is compatible with Macs? or is just going to stay on Windows
craggy pier
@pseudo epoch Well, I think it's entirely feasible to make a Mac version of the game but it will cost a lot for a limited audience.
Time and money probably better invested in other aspect of the game right now.
pseudo epoch
i see
craggy pier
You can also install Windows in 20 minutes on MacOS if you really need to.
I've done it and it's 99% pain free.
pseudo epoch
i probably could, but the mac in my house is a shared computer, and over the summer im hopefully gonna get a Windows, i just wanted to know in case i never get around to it.
craggy pier
Well that's not an issue, with the Bootcamp utility included with MacOS you have both OS in the same machine and you can switch to Windows at startup
It will only cost you a few Gigs of free space and a Windows licence.
pseudo epoch
cool, ill look into that thanks
sly cliff
maybe I'm dumb but where to I past a lobby room code, I dont see anything on the rundown screne
vital sierra
flint monolith
how do you solve the infection feature now
sly cliff
thats not popping up
worthy pollen
you can find some tools to desinfect or ||machines in some levels||
in the category LOOKING FOR GROUP segment HOW TO MATCHMAKE if the link dosnt send you there
oh
to post a lobby code just go to any LFG CHANNEL
vital sierra
he mean the room doesn;'t pop up
flint monolith
probably has the dropdown for chats only to recent messages
vital sierra
so it could be the host or the client internet is screwed
sly cliff
No like tge button in the game ios NOT there
worthy pollen
sorry im dumb
mmh
vital sierra
you can get kick by having slow internet
flint monolith
no glue
worthy pollen
i vote for the bad connection with host or viceversa
flint monolith
or bad connection in-general
worthy pollen
yy
sly cliff
The button to join someone does not exist on my screen
worthy pollen
did you copied the whole code?
and went to the rundown screen where all the missions appear?
is a red button on the left side below the other 2 buttons
sly cliff
I'm not sure how i got it to work, I was trying to get my girl to join a lobby with me, but shes there now
vital sierra
oh
it could be steam being dumb or the internet hiccup and the lobby become unexistence
brisk vapor
A friend and I are heavely interested in this game. We are just two tho. Is it worth buying this game if it's balanced and made for four players? And how much can we rely on other players on this discord joining our games?
sturdy dew
This server is very good for playing in, most of the community here is nice and willing to help new players or just play normally, the speed that you can find people isnt always very fast but that will depend on your time zone and time of playing. If you decide to only play with the 2 of you the game will be much more difficult, and while possible, the devs balance the game for 4 people so there could be some points where it will be almost impossible.
in my opinion dont avoid the game because youre only 2 people, as that can be solved with more people or a lot of practice
brisk vapor
Thank you for your answers. Sounds like there will be two more joining your ranks soon.
jade bluff
do c levels or d levels have pods?
tribal ether
Do you wanna be spoiled on that?
thorny current
No, they dont have tide pods.
flat vault
how do u play this game ? any links to help me out
woeful trench
why cant i pick up more than 1 consumable even though the ammo packs % is at 33%
edgy pumice
Nothing will stack at all so if you can either use it or have somebody carry it
woeful trench
what about learning the difficulty of alarm doors?
full sundial
Only one alarm door tells you how many sets of scans there will be before you do it, all the others you have to just do the scans till it says "DOOR UNLOCKED"
and then you learn from that run by counting the sets of scans, or by asking other people who have beat it already
dreamy pecan
does sentry gun damage doors?
lilac fulcrum
no
pale rune
noob here, is there a strategy guide for how to play? My family is getting decimated at the first security door. Looking for things like build outs, monster-type strategies, etc.
also - if you open a crate, can items disappear over time? Currently debating this with my team.
tawdry leaf
no they cant dissapear
thinking about chokepoints and making sure you angle sentries so they can cover these and not shoot your team
closing doors and having sentries on the other side so the enemy has to break the door while getting shot is a basic one
jagged basin
you can dodge almost all damage by sprinting and jumping when you hear the biters charge up for their attack
pale rune
cool - i appreciate it guys
when you say place the sentry on the other side, you mean like, outside the closed door? In the other room?
(that you're not in?)
tawdry leaf
yes
tawdry leaf
👍
tawdry niche
Have you guys seen a match contain items/zones/cargo/etc with the same number?
E.g. a game with MEDIPACK_464 and also a KEY_RED_464
lilac fulcrum
I believe the numbers are fully random, so it'd be coincidence if they matched up.
noble sierra
Actually a good question, never seen a serial number collision except ||IDs||
tawdry niche
Yeah it's seemingly random, but I suspect they've coded it so that you never see overlap
But we also can't say for sure
unkempt jasper
So, my crew and I just started in on the new rundown; did they ever patch mines? Do they still not alert in stealth mode?
tawdry niche
Also if you stand on one and shoot it, it will kill you
First thing I ever tested out of curiosity in this game
vital sierra
have anyone bring the Fog turbine in C1 back to spawn?
tawdry leaf
can someone explain the gen trick in d1
tawdry leaf
tawdry leaf
one right in front ill go ask
strange oar
why is this man purple ?!?!?????????????? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/262093214100619266/702024912575135814/unknown.png
why cant i post that as a picture!?????
how do i get it though though is it something that i phsycially cant do anymore or what
tawdry leaf
https://i.imgur.com/ntZHSW0.png plz clap
strange oar
*clapss(
vital sierra
👏
tawdry niche
There isn't, and it's part of the design of the game
It's to induce that sense of anxiety the game strives for
Hahaha I think they'd be happy to hear that 😅
They said they want players to always be unsure if they have enough ammo, be constantly cautious, unsure if they'll make it to the end, etc
On one hand it's a thrill to succeed through, but the big gameplay aspect is that it really forces the team to work together, and they really wanted to hone the coop aspect
minor fractal
@bold niche You can't know where they'll spawn exactly, but it's always 2 rooms away when possible (with very rare exceptions).
Are you trying to predict for any alarm in particular?
Only level right now that makes exceptions is C1, btw, which uses custom spawn points for some events.
Does anyone have a picture of C2's in-game map?
Need to learn the areas for that level.
Especially 114
craggy pier
Does Shadows trigger mines if not tracked ?
minor fractal
Yes.
craggy pier
Nice thanks
solemn scarab
can u not play R1 anymore?
desert yoke
nope
full sundial
nope, it isn't playable
craggy pier
Not anymore
solemn scarab
o ok thank you
placid cobalt
1 question 4 responses
craggy pier
3 actually 😛
solemn scarab
im having trouble actually avoiding damage during alarms any tips on how you could dodge more attacks?(apart from dodging)
full sundial
use cover to avoid shooters while you deal with strikers
vital sierra
use striker as cover
full sundial
that's my #1 piece of advice, and #2 would be remembering you can always run away
you gotta run away before they start their attack (strikers) otherwise they might be able to slap you as you run
so don't wait till they're right up on top of you to decide to bail, otherwise you're likely to get smacked
over time you will learn the timings and see patterns of when to fall back, etc
solemn scarab
ok thanks
placid cobalt
slide
the act of sliding especially with a well timed jump can allow you to dodge two tongues at once
vital sierra
you can kill multiple sleeper at once if they group up
i got a quadruple head shot with the hammer
full kettle
yo, anyone know if there is a full soundtrack for any of GTFO's music? In particular, I am looking for the ending song from the world premier or the title theme.
dapper belfry
@full kettle look up GTFO game title theme song on YouTube that should show you the ending song from the world premiere
full kettle
i've found it awhile back but like i mean an actual full length theme not on a loop for 10 hours
cause the title theme is like 25 seconds
@dapper belfry thank you though
full kettle
?
full kettle
i'm just picturing the skeleton that screams with the eye gleam when you say this
distant ice
So with 3 weeks passed are spoilers not required for absolutely all r2 content now?
craggy pier
most people aren't using them anymore, but I don't think there's an official word on it
desert yoke
It is better to use them. We have new people coming every day. ^^
distant ice
that's why i'm asking
desert yoke
I mean it is always better for people who not want to get spoiled ^^
distant ice
so it's just up to where we draw the line ourselves then
sand scaffold
would there ever be consideration given to a separate spoiler friendly chat? individuals could make the decision wether they want to expose themselves to spoilers or not
distant ice
too hard to manage, serves basically the same purpose and divides the community
i mean even the existence of big boys and scouts is a spoiler for a new player, you couldn't talk about the game at all
craggy pier
oh, you're right - the rule does specifically say 3 weeks is the limit
so no need for spoilers anymore
sand scaffold
fair. 3 weeks isn’t very long at all
craggy pier
its plenty long for people who are keeping up with the updates imo
sand scaffold
for sure. I meant that in support lol
jade bluff
are the pods the only new enemy released as of yet?
craggy pier
nope. there's more than pods.
minor fractal
I think they could get away with it if they made the level actually interesting to play and the reactor much shorter.
Otherwise, naw.
They had one in the early builds of R2, but it got scrapped at some point.
craggy pier
anyone get stuck in the computer thing and it saying detecting personal
minor fractal
Yes, @craggy pier. You need someone to stand next to it so the screen comes back and you can press esc to exit.
tawdry leaf
the worst is when there is blood on the screen and you cant make out digits
and the alarm is blaring in your ears
polar slate
can you kill the green squirt things
unkempt jasper
@bold niche Regarding your spawning question: after the alarm sounds, the spawning hordes will usually- although seemingly not always- spawn with a roar in the direction they're coming from, and of course the waves will alter through the alarm.
distant ice
they do always do that afaik
maybe only some spawn elsewhere if there's not enough room in the first spawn place
unkempt jasper
Are Scouts vulnerable to a C-Foam launcher? I remember testing it in Rundown 1 and trying to use a launcher rather than a grenade would usually seem to alert them
distant ice
it didn't alert in R1 and it doesn't now either
but afaik they eat more foam before freezing now
old warren
I know maybe people have asked this like 1000 times now but,
how do u actually decrypt the last 2 missions???
does somebody know?
@craggy pier what tiers?
I have done those but they are still encrypted
lilac fulcrum
The entire community needs to work together to unlock it
it's not just one person doing it a few times, but like the entire community
old warren
and the community has to do those levels?
lilac fulcrum
yup
hollow hill
damn))
old warren
and do we have something to know that is actually close to being decrypted?
lilac fulcrum
When the warden is please the progress on the rundown page will update
jagged basin
I think d1 clears makes the most sense since it's literally called "statistics"
full kettle
It is literally just D1 clears by community members will be what unlocks d2 and e1
stuck vale
so then how is it that for 3 weeks it hasn't updated
has no one cleared d1 in that time
dusky coral
honestly, there probly gonna release it while they have a good chunk of another rundown down.
full kettle
I mean, new player wise?
dusky coral
they might just release 1 level at a time
full kettle
probably not
dusky coral
there has been people who completed d1 in that time
they just stopped updating the 3.1% thing
full kettle
so that update won't change
The first time they implemented it was on a patch
they will more than likely update it only on another patch or just timegate it at some point
probably gonna be within the next few weeks it will unlock d2 or e1
dusky coral
its probly going to be 1 level at a time
it would make sense
gives them more time to work on future work, while giving you content
which is why i dont understand the nerfing of the game part.
full kettle
they nerfed it because it is literally just D1 clears that will make the percentage go up
trying to get players from lower levels up to d1 to get them clears
dusky coral
oh i get that but if you nerf it to heavily aka c1
then your making it harder on yourselves to always produce content at a quicker rate
full kettle
yes
dusky coral
that part makes no sense
yesterday i played a in a c1 map where we had 10 scouts
it felt like it was the un nerfed version
full kettle
when the players still can't clear it because they still don't have the concept of the game down and are unable to take risks since they don't have a good understanding of it. They tend to still not clear those levels.
dusky coral
oh i got that part
full kettle
While yes it may feel easy to some players, consider it from a much more casual player
dusky coral
i failed it many many times
people are just too quick to give up
your bound to beat all the levels at some point if you keep trying
full kettle
They are more than likely used to playing faster paced games or just don't know how to take this game at a fast pace
full kettle
not fully comprehending the level layout, not used to the level yet and the objectives
dusky coral
right
d1 shouldnt of been nerfed
but the amount of time it takes
is what makes people upset
legit your first runthrough is 2 hours lets say
if you fail that 5 times a day thats 10 hours
the only reason i was able to complete it as fast as i did, was because of the covid pandemic
full kettle
bingo, but also people just get demotivated super easily in this game at times
met a dude in C1 who physically sounded dead inside after so many attempts
dusky coral
lololol
full kettle
then passed out at his computer and we could hear him snoring
full kettle
ehhh
dusky coral
i know it comes down to people being noobs and w.e but i mean
i dont think you should have to spend hours to attempt a level
ohhhh
gotcha
lilac fulcrum
I maintain The Warden (not my original code), created GTFO Bot, and Mod Contact (strictly discord bot wise - not talking lore/game wise).
minor fractal
D0c maintains the Warden, it's canon. He's behind the whole thing.
simple galleon
hi, please can someone explain how the uplink works at the end of R2B3? We typed in the IP then a string of words appeared on screen. Wasn't clear what to type in the terminal next.
craggy pier
when starting the uplink command is UPLINK_CONNECT then the numbers like 000.000.000.000
simple galleon
ty. we did that bit
craggy pier
after that
you will see something like Y02 in the terminal
your teammates should be able to see what it corresponds to
say Y02= LONG
you type UPLINK_VERIFY LONG
craggy pier
no after Y02 it will change
simple galleon
oh ok
craggy pier
NP hopefully you complete B3
simple galleon
👍
old aspen
Just started the game with 3 other buddies and loving it (Currently on R2B2) - What's the deal with D2/E1 etc?
Oh okay - Sounds interesting, I assume doing them in order is the intended route? Any tips 😄 @balmy magnet
full kettle
intended is debatable since you can play them in any order if you have it unlocked
old aspen
Thanks for all the help - One more question I have is, once E1 is completed does the game (Or the Devs) intend to reward the group with cosmetics or any reward in the future?
full kettle
yep
old aspen
Oooh sounds cool. Thanks again for all the help! Will be interesting if there is a rundown specific reward after the E1 'raid'
full kettle
It is still early access and the devs have mostly been focused on getting everything else flushed out
before they do anything with cosmetics
old aspen
I mean its fucking awsome for an early access tbf
full kettle
i quite agree
old aspen
Enjoy your evening lads/lasses I'll be on here quite a bit 😄
dull yacht
So we found out the lock melters actually work on the locked doors (non scan) ie. hacking minigame doors too
vital sierra
yes
dull schooner
If you're beating on a c-foamed baddie do you do more dps doing quick uncharged hits or charged hits?
half hare
Is ||infection and all that just for this rundown?|| Or can we expect to see this as a permanent addition to the game?
half hare
aight
currently I like having to manage my time in the mist, but not near the wall things. Those are extremely annoying sometimes
vital sierra
in what level?
minor fractal
New mechanics will likely be featured in other rundowns.
tawdry niche
Can't wait for lightsabers
minor fractal
Old enemies have been brought back, so expect to see infection in a small handful of levels.
jagged basin
that'd be nice but we know in our hearts it will
edgy pumice
So, does anybody have tips for C1? Aside from ||do terminals closest to the exit last|| managing resources. We have choke points that work well, slow and steady decimation of enemies and good communication. But no matter the team, I still find we get close but we can't finish the level.
oblique dust
Which area specifically do you tend to die on? And is it as a result of running out of supplies, or being overwhelmed?
edgy pumice
Sometimes at the first alarm door, sometimes after 2nd terminal. Made it once to the end point before being overwhelmed
It's a mix of why we die but it just sucks cause there's no one exact cause for every failure
oblique dust
Yeah that is rough. Hmn.
Not sure I could give any advice without knowing the problem. :< Sorry
tawdry niche
Could someone remind me what that GTFO logger .exe was?
I think I saw it on GitHub maybe
tawdry niche
Ah gotcha, thank you very much
kind trail
either way it’s an ez download
tawdry niche
"GTFO Log Manager.exe"
kind trail
make sure you use number two for now
kind trail
not to my knowledge
just that they changed the way they did logs “recently”
so if you had it already downloaded or something
waxen garnet
Enemy related: ||What's the name of the super-spitter that blows out like 6-12 spikes and has a metric ton of HP?||
waxen garnet
Yeah, when they start taking multiple sniper shots we start clenching
waxen garnet
I have opinions about the projectile tracking the infected as a whole do, but I suspect it'll be refined more later on
Anyway, thank you
vital sierra
you can side step and melee that ||Hybrid|| pretty easily
tawdry niche
I love how it works in GTFO. When in doubt: hammer
oblique dust
"That's it, I'm gettin' me mallet!"
dusky prism
just a thought would a rouge prisoner work?
swift reef
How many rundowns are planned before the game leaves EA?
craggy pier
Hello! I would like to ask where I can find new people? I just bought the game and everybody is high level (C1 or so)
worthy pollen
try hosting yourselve the game or waiting until someone host an A1 lobby
fallow wing
@edgy pumice Make the terminal close from extraction last, Leave the little door on second floor open, send the biotracker outside, lure them by the small door, theh C-foam it when the tracker enter the door. As soon as you 3rd code in entered, LEAVE, dont wait for the 3rd code to finish. They barely make it in the room and you should have left the building
Always work for us, and be sure to close the door on your way out behind you, (and all other door in zone 204 before starting terminal)
We do this map with 2 bio tracker alterning our scan every 5 seconds. One mine, one sentry
craggy pier
one of the biggest weaknesses i've seen on c1 is an inability to kite, if you are overrun don't hold your ground till you die, run across the entire map - enemies are very unlikely to hit you and you can thin them out across a huge area, close a door if necessary, and regroup/revive/get alarms before they can catch back up
edgy pumice
I thought somebody had to be near the terminal to have the code go through all the way?
Also yeah I’ve been forcing myself to run when we accidentally trigger anything
fallow wing
@edgy pumice Only one person do the terminal, you can easilly do it by yourself
One person can stay close to you if you want
quiet prawn
The room that only has Scouts in R2D1, Can I use sniper since they're deaf and blind? or other Scouts can still hear firing? And if I can use sniper, what will happen if I fire and miss? Nothing or Alert
sturdy dew
scouts will react to gunshots if you are in the same room or close enough
if you miss the head and hit the body it will alert
if you miss and just hit the floor nothing will happen
quiet prawn
If I stand in room A, fire scout in room B. that's okay right
sturdy dew
if you are far enough from any sleepers and are in a different room nothing will get alerted
what zone are you in if i could ask?
quiet prawn
I can't rmb which zone but it's near 612 and 610
noble sierra
That's || 611 ||
noble sierra
|| People tends to avoid 611/613 in a regular D1 run since these two doors require an alarm to open||
quiet prawn
Oh I see, Thank you both!
copper sedge
anyone falling through the floor on D1 randomly
lilac fulcrum
Can you create a #bug-reporting noting where exactly you fell through and grab the logs as well please.
copper sedge
done, much appreciated
craggy pier
do we know if they will add the "Map Pulse" from the some of the trailers to the game?
Tips for C2 ?
tall bone
You good at using the terminal?
@craggy pier how far you getting and how are you dying?
full sundial
even more so than this one was? as long as there aren't ||spitters|| all over the place in the ||infected|| fog, it isn't that bad, but with those things, so annoying lmfao
unborn quail
anyone have any tips for doing r2B3???
stuck at the computer part with my friends lol
full kettle
@craggy pier learn to manipulate enemy spawns
@unborn quail varies a tiny bit
based on the side you get, ||try and have the person typing learn to get on and off the terminal to figure out the code for each time for themselves while the others defend doors||
also, consistent c-foam
unborn quail
yeah the computer part was the confusing part for me
had no ideaa what to do
thanks!
thanks for the suggestion! Just beat b3 on our first attempt after the tips!
❤️
tawdry niche
On B3, where do you find the words you're meant to tell the terminal person? I was the terminal person and kept telling them "I have Z03, what do I enter" but they didn't know
minor fractal
@tawdry niche Alarm/scan text
You can exit the terminal to look yourself
was there a security scan active by chance?
Like 165?
tawdry niche
Yep other 3 were fending off swarms while I was just faffing around with a computer
Alarm/scan text
Does that just appear automatically, like Warden messages?
vital sierra
like R1C1
tawdry niche
Or do you have to open the map, etc
vital sierra
after you enter the connect command
tawdry niche
I'm asking q about B3, I definitely haven't seen C1 lol
vital sierra
the screen start %
after finish it tell you what password to enter
the password will pop up on screen
minor fractal
You know when you enter a scan and it says "Enter security scan to progress"?
tawdry niche
@minor fractal Ahh yess
the screen start %
@vital sierra Sorry didn't know what that meant
minor fractal
Yah, how the fuck did nobody notice it, though?
Again, did you have any active scans?
vital sierra
it on their face
minor fractal
Like 165?
tawdry niche
Wait. I wronged you both
There wasn't a security door scan, just swarms coming. Starting the terminal alerts them all and they just come rushing
No circles to stand on or doors to open... I think
minor fractal
Should display properly, then
tawdry niche
I exited the terminal and told someone to take over and give it a try but there was nothing obvious. Is it small text in the upper left?
vital sierra
it's pop up on their face
tawdry niche
Hmm
vital sierra
i'm gonna send\ you a picture in media
tawdry niche
Lol Alpha you are the most committed screenshot/recording showwer in this server
Literally pop into the game to get footage for peeps then and there 🙇♂️
vital sierra
there
vital sierra
IT'S ON THEIR FUCKING FACE
tawdry niche
Maybe if you are on the terminal when it first appears, it doesn't show?
vital sierra
if you're on the terminal you won't see
tawdry niche
I mean when you exit the terminal, even then I saw nothing
placid cobalt
dont go into the terminal
tawdry niche
I didn't though 🤔
vital sierra
watch out for lag
placid cobalt
and read off the codes to your self
minor fractal
You should still see it if you are in the terminal to start.
minor fractal
You probably started the 165 scan and forgot about it.
tawdry niche
Hmm
minor fractal
@craggy pier 166 and 167 are uplink spawns
vital sierra
it's kinda short
it's just the code thing are long
or if your teammate are like my teammate
never do the scan even tho is next to them
minor fractal
People really struggle with the uplink, though, lmao.
minor fractal
I think some of the problem is also not being able to kill the 3-5 enemies that come at you every once and a while .
Like, wtf, this is barely an alarm.
full sundial
Are you talking about C2, Ray?
minor fractal
No, B3 uplink
full sundial
so only 3-5 enemies spawn at a time during that?
full sundial
ah, but they build up, right?
vital sierra
yes
vital sierra
it's felt like C2
vital sierra
even in C1
minor fractal
They spawn fairly frequently as well, so it's not easy, just not that hard.
full sundial
yeah, they build up
minor fractal
You should be able to survive a fairly long time without defenses.
vital sierra
you'll be done with the uplink anyway
i remembered playing with Sen
when the 5 shadow spawn
he's already done with the uplink
full sundial
What?
vital sierra
ye
full sundial
How can you do it that fast?
vital sierra
it took you about 15 seconds or so
full sundial
Guess the code over and over while it updates?
full sundial
I know how it works
vital sierra
tab out of the terminal
full sundial
but still, how do you do all 3 that quickly?
vital sierra
Aim down sight at the terminal while it's loading
the require password pop up
enter
took me 5 seconds
each
full sundial
so it goes faster and shows the code quicker when you get off the terminal?
vital sierra
it's like
after the first command
press up to load the verify command
tab out the terminal
aim down sight
you will see the X08 or something that tell you on the terminal and you're tabbed out of terminal
full sundial
yeah, but it normally takes a while for that to process?
vital sierra
yes
minor fractal
The delay between codes is much longer than 5 seconds, though
full sundial
right?
vital sierra
i don't know
full sundial
yeah, you can't do the whole terminal uplink before the 5 enemies get to you
vital sierra
when i finished the code the shadow got kill
full sundial
that isn't possible, and if it was, it would be a bug
full sundial
you said you can do the whole uplink in the time that only 5 spawn
full sundial
so does that hopping off the terminal thing make it go faster?
full sundial
then how would you finish the uplink before more spawn?
oh, so it does speed that up
huh, seems like that would be a bug
vital sierra
you only type in 4 words
full sundial
either sitting on the terminal is too slow or hopping off the terminal bugs out and shows you the info too fast
minor fractal
It takes about 5 seconds to actually tell you what the next code is
vital sierra
3 - 4 seconds
the first code won't count anyway when the password pop up immediately
that's why 15 seconds - 20 seconds are doable
you would have thought you're typed in 3 code but in reality
it's only 2
the first code already finish before the alarm start
gonna type fast
orchid owl
Does gtfo kick you out for being afk?
sturdy dew
no
tawdry niche
So far we haven't seen sleepers interacting with objects/the environment have we? Short of going around door knocking
vital sierra
@orchid owl if you're internet so slow you can get kick
split meadow
so no matter what my friends do i cant stealth kill a big striker
wither it be 1 to head 3 to back or and combination
im not sure if we cant just do it right but we all time it in a countdown but it doesnt work
im just confused and it doesnt work and would like clarification
full sundial
someone is probably missing
but I would recommend having the person swinging for the head go for the back of the head and they lead the count
so they hit first, as the back of the head is the weakest area of the giant
also, the one going for the back of the head should only swing when the giant is croaking (not pulsing) so that it puts its head back, so it is easier to hit
then everyone else can hit it in the back
distant ice
Full charge back of the head followed by another full charge back will already leave him barely alive
split meadow
is croaking is when hes like stretching or is croaking when he is sleeping?
full sundial
croaking is when he is stretching making a noise
big ones don't make a sound similar to the small ones tho
the small ones click which reminded me of croaking
split meadow
so should the other 3 hit him in the front or in the back also
full sundial
big ones just glow and make a breathing noise kinda, but there is a small bit of the clicking in it
in the back too if possible
but doesn't matter much for the other three
as long as they hit the giant somewhere
but the best would be the back
split meadow
okay we will try that thanks so much'
full sundial
happy to help 🙂
minor fractal
@split meadow The front of the head does less damage than the back of the body, so make sure you're not "settling" for the face
vital sierra
did someone just spam in every single chat?
minor fractal
That would probably explain why he doesn't die if you're hitting the face
@full sundial It doesn't matter where the other 3 hit on titan strikers if you hit back of the head, but on titan shooters 3 to the chests will not be enough damage to compliment it.
full sundial
yeah, I assumed he was talking about the big strikers
minor fractal
Ah
vital sierra
have anyone beat B2 without putting the cells in?
distant ice
well that got yeeted quick
distant ice
legit question though, how would you even do that when the extraction scan is not there
same as saying enter A1 and beat it without taking the cargo
distant ice
so you get through the scan and motion trigger, then go to the exit where there's nothing
then you'll just have to go back and put the cells in anyway
vital sierra
you can get through
but idk if the last scan pop up
i died at the last bloody door scan
empty beacon
@queen kernel Hey, as the Stream Clip isn't really a question / answer related to this topic, you might want to post it in #gtfo-chat or more likely in #gtfo-media . 🙂
queen kernel
@empty beacon I deleted it after I realized the same, does deleting a message not do it for everyone? 😬
craggy pier
it deletes for everyone
empty beacon
@queen kernel As a fact, it has been seen by one of our team. :) However since it's GTFO related, from what I've seen, you might want to post it still in the Media channel. 😅
Oh you did already, nvm Move along people and have a good day
minor fractal
shadow mica
@minor fractal What would you say is the best way to approach zones such as ||610|| in D1
tribal ether
By not dying
shadow mica
Sneak through and grab the cell or alert everything one room at a time
minor fractal
||Alert B and C. Use the terminal to check the key and cell locations. Have biotracker sneak through D, E and F. If biotracker is unfamiliar with the map or isn't able to manage it, alert D, E, and F. Note that D and E are open to one another.||
I've been able to sneak through those rooms consistently, but it's up to preference and current resources
Alerting everything is expensive, to say the least.
shadow mica
I imagine its also dependent on good RNG with the wall zits
minor fractal
True, although they seem somewhat infrequent in the later areas
Bio needs fog repellers to regen periodically.
distant ice
this comes out of nowhere but wouldn't it be nice to have a way to turn infection fog into normal dense fog
minor fractal
And a good sense of direction.
I just wish items like glowsticks and fog repellers were more like, say, 10 minutes
shadow mica
That should last longer imo
And just have less of them
How long do repellers last, like a minute?
minor fractal
About, yah
shadow mica
Only way I can really see the sneak strat working is if you have a partner that can also throw fog repellers
throw 4 on the way in, 4 on the way out
Because otherwise its so easy for the zits to fucking pop
They have like zero delay
distant ice
depends on your proximity
minor fractal
You can soundwhore them.
distant ice
at max range that they react it's more like 10 seconds
minor fractal
They aren't silent, you'll know if they're a threat
and you can use repellers in response
shadow mica
You can hear them?
minor fractal
It also takes a bit to degen down to one-shot range between repellers
distant ice
ye
minor fractal
Yes.
keen solar
Is there any news about D2 and E1 yet?
distant ice
no
shadow mica
I can barely hear them sometimes, the rest of the audio is way higher for some reason
distant ice
they're quiet but not silent
jovial fiber
can anyone join https://discord.gg/AbaTGw
to help answer some D1 questions
fallow wing
@keen solar there is now #dev-leaks
sturdy dew
Is the large fog repeller called a Fog Repeller turbine or a Fog Turbine
spice breach
A Fog Turbine
minor fractal
FOG_TURBINE on terminals. I don't believe it has any identification anywhere else, though, similar to how power cells are only ever referred to as CELL.
sturdy dew
alright thanks :)
sage pecan
were the expedition maps in pre-alpha and beta featured in rundown 1 or were those rundowns their own unique rundowns
minor fractal
From what I've seen on YT, there was a pre-rundown that had unique levels (not sure how many, just remember an HSU map with a load of scouts), and then some early versions of R1 just featuring R1B1 and R1C1.
sage pecan
dammit
cuz i saw some-pre alpha gameplay and i liked how the map looked
i believe there was zone14
which i dont remmeber seeing before
i guess i missed out :,(
red summit
hey, i often see people say LF2M or LF1M in their messages the looking for group chat, what does that mean?
red summit
ok thanks
craggy pier
ye np
junior otter
Question about C1: || after you link up the last terminal, is the enemy wave infinite? It seemed that way, so we made a break for the extraction point and all died. Should we just hold our position and clear the enemies, or will they never stop coming? ||
distant ice
yes, ||infinite. What worked for me is leaving myself alone doing the last terminal while my teammate (duo) just stood at extraction before i even started. He got 70% before the first shadows came for him||
high badge
Whats the deal with C2? Am i supposed to just run around looking for ID as waves spawn to stop me?
distant ice
pretty much
high badge
And i found fog turbines dont tell me i have to go into gas while being chased
distant ice
okay i won't
craggy pier
||just make sure that you don't let the infinitely spawning waves stack up on eachother too much, you'll regret it if you don't keep them managed @high badge ||
high badge
@craggy pier yeah i realized a little late the first time
Is it a good strategy to have one person loop them around and the others go search around?
Or should i split into kill teams and search teams
craggy pier
I like to have 1 on terminal, 2 on a kill team
and 1 on a search team
or rather just 1 searching
high badge
Terminal?
How can you find the ID’s without information
Or rather using the terminals
distant ice
list id 113 for example
turbid crest
You can list all ID's using List identification. If that helps.
distant ice
and if the terminal dude is in 113, he can ping them
craggy pier
oh yeah
i typically go on a terminal and type ping g
which does nothign but tells you what zone you're in
then if its like zone 206 for example
list 206 id
ping id_DHD7321DHZ
or whatever
high badge
oh ok
spare void
is the fact that all of our HP goes up to 4000% is a glitch or a hack ?
oblique dust
is the fact that all of our HP goes up to 4000% is a glitch or a hack ?
@spare void That means that somebody in your lobby was cheating. If you bump into any more cheaters feel free to send any evidence you have to the @uneven gulch bot. 🙂
spare void
I just left the game@oblique dust will do it next time
oblique dust
Cheating isn't fun. May take another couple of minutes to find a new team but the experience will be worth it! Best of luck in the complex~ :3
spare void
@oblique dust Thanks, I finished all the levels, but that was my first time seeing it, so just wanted to make sure as everyone was denying 😛
carmine beacon
I mean lots of ppl are tired of waiting for CG to get to 100%, no wonder ppl are starting to cheat to unlock the last maps🤔
oblique dust
No excuses
carmine beacon
I know its not an excuse, Im saying its not surprising^^
silver solar
When a rundown is being made is it made by the developers or is it automated?
And the devs just play test it and work out any kinks?
craggy pier
i believe the bug hunter team tests them
silver solar
I see
lilac fulcrum
@silver solar The devs have a tool that creates a rough layout of an expedition, then they go in and manually tweak stuff like moving rooms around, setting certain rooms to have security doors, adjusting the environment. From there they of course do their own testing and provide a build to our bug hunters who go through and provide feedback on difficulty, any changes they think should be made, test for bugs, etc.
foggy cosmos
anyoen got tips for the septic rundown?
spark wolf
Save fog repellers and medipacks for the fog alarm
bring a bio tracker to help in the fog
minor fractal
@foggy cosmos Enemies spawn in 764C. Bring two turbines to do scans faster. Set up a sentry in 764C watching the door to 764D. Set up a second sentry in 764D watching to door to 764F. C-foam both doors and put mines on the sides the enemies will break into if possible. Ignore 764E entirely if you're not extremely needy of supplies, and ensure all the doors to it are closed. You can place an extra mine in 764F in-front of the door to 764E, since they will spawn there during the extraction (although extraction is very easy to defend for, it's really not necessary to have defenses).
Use your consumable fog repellers as a means of increasing firepower. If you alert any rooms in 764, or the alarm enemies begin to reach you in the fog, drop the fog turbines right away and throw consumable fog repellers. You do not want 1-2 players to be completely defenseless when there are enemies around.
spark wolf
i often just run back through the fog and fight them at the start when we trigger a lot of them in one of those rooms
minor fractal
I'm not a fan of bio, tbh
Prefer c-foam mine shotgun shotgun
since it allows you to prepare an optimal setup for that alarm
You just need to conserve enough tool refill for sentries, 2 doors worth of foam, and 2 mines.
The enemies literally don't have the time or strength to reach you.
If you see enemies for that alarm, you're doing something wrong.
remote zephyr
how do u know which door theyll come out of?
minor fractal
The default wave mechanics spawn enemies exactly two rooms away @remote zephyr
I have also verified this with multiple applications.
If there is only one room two rooms away, they are guaranteed to spawn there if you don't have players wandering about .
remote zephyr
wow. thats very helpful to know. thanks!
tawdry niche
@minor fractal So in this hypothetical room (0), they would only spawn in room (2) 100% of the time?: https://dsc.cloud/e95a07/SmartSelect_20200424-100747_Samsung_Notes.jpg
tawdry niche
I guess I should be able to work it out myself given your above proven theory?
Thank you for verifying this 🙇♂️ You are the best GTFO Scientist I have seen in the community
minor fractal
Np
tawdry niche
Waffle is #1 GTFO Analyst :P
minor fractal
True that
Note that some alarm events have custom spawns.
But these are very rare, and easy to identify by their odd behavior (they don't use distance, some rooms are arbitrarily included or excluded).
tawdry niche
Is that map specific, or door-type specific?
minor fractal
Alarm specific, and the only ones currently are ||the four uplinks in C1||
tawdry niche
Okie pokie dokie, thanks again :)
minor fractal
Np.
I'm surprised the spawn mechanics aren't more widespread since I've been trying to share them as much as humanly possible.
But I suppose I'm also one of the only people that likes keeping area maps in their heads.
tawdry niche
I think not a lot of players are thinking about mechanics at all
They just use Discord for the LFG/voice, which is great. You don't need to discuss on disc/read reddit etc to enjoy the game
minor fractal
True.
vital sierra
B3 and C1?
full kettle
b3 no
C1 is infinite after the 3rd terminal is done
then in both cases it is a race back to the spawn
vital sierra
i think they do stop spawning
because they only spawn 5 at a time
i watched Judberries stream on C1 and they stop spawning when he kite the shadow
vital sierra
b3 are the same i think
full kettle
yep
full sundial
That's all alarms, @vital sierra , after a certain # of enemies are spawned, it stops spawning them
but if you kill enough of them, more will spawn
I don't know the specifics on how many need to be killed or how many spawned is the max, but that seems to be how it works
vital sierra
killed 3 - 4 it's ok
full sundial
keep this channel for questions, you can post the meme in #gtfo-media 🙂
cunning linden
how do i make a game suggestion?
lilac fulcrum
See the instructions at the bottom of the bots messages in #gtfo-game-suggestions @cunning linden
minor fractal
@vital sierra Pretty sure waffles knows a lot about the new wave mechanics and spawn cap.
vital sierra
but i'm pretty sure they stop spawning, it's felt like the same as extraction alarm spawn
minor fractal
That's true of all alarms, though?
If you kill none of them, the new wave won't activate.
vital sierra
you can test these uplink alarm with hearing the hoard spawn sound
they spawn 5 each so if we heard 6 roar then it's 30
minor fractal
Don't think that's true of C1, it starts out at 3 and then ramps up.
vital sierra
they don't just spawn at 1 location i believe
sometime the game just spawn different location
minor fractal
You can watch them on bio.
Every wave drops in three for a bit, and then at the tail end it starts dropping 5 at a time.
vital sierra
ye
idk why but sometime i saw them spawn at different location tho
like
half a wave spawn on the left and half a wave spawn on the right
or it's just the AI being buggy and somehow found his way to the other side
minor fractal
Rooms have capacities, so if it gets overcrowded they spawn in multiple, but otherwise they try to spawn in only one room
vital sierra
damn
quaint herald
will there ever be a 4 pack available?
lilac fulcrum
not likely, Valve doesn't like to do that
tawdry niche
They did it for Borderlands
...which was 10 years ago, point taken
@craggy pier Discounted 4 game keys
Quote appropriate for coop games, but also less money for Valve
left warren
Hello do you know if there are French players that are looking for other players?
distant ice
i've definitely seen some
there are two #highlighted-communities i see with french people
unkempt ridge
https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/Enemies#Weak_Points
https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/Scout#Strategies
Need to update these sections with the new back multipliers, if you guys can tell what's not true anymore
unkempt ridge
Oh alright
full sundial
Yeah, the change was supposed to apply only to the sentry guns, but I think it was accidentally applied to all weapons
unkempt ridge
fuck
So about sentry guns
does the back multiplier became just reduced or completely removed ? (same damages than in front)
distant ice
reduced
the bug was pretty convenient to find out what the multiplier is now, it's 1.5x
full sundial
reduced could mean it is reduced to the same as shooting the front
that's what I mean by it isn't specified
ah, okay, so you guys figured it out
interesting
autumn pulsar
Is it just me or does the pistol hit like a wet noodle this rundown?
full sundial
yeah, its range was nerfed to medium range
left warren
@distant ice Thank you very much
distant ice
still 3 shots to strikers and 2 to shooters 
unkempt ridge
Is it just me or does the pistol hit like a wet noodle this rundown?
@autumn pulsar pistol best weapon
theres just more damage falloff
distant ice
idk the range is still good enough for me
unkempt ridge
sniper went from 15 to 18 ammos poggers
full sundial
18+3?
full sundial
ah okay
unkempt ridge
since I have 50% with 3+6 ammos
spark wolf
pistol starts with 100 bullets
2/3 per kill means you can kill a lot with just the starting ammo
wise geode
Is there any plan about a training area?
for shooting, even for stealth training, that kind of thing
tardy granite
every level is a training area hahaha
wise geode
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo XD
Everytime I rekt up it will harm my teammates XD
tardy granite
hahah open ur open ur own lobby and go in urself man haahaha
distant ice
eh pistol hip fire is kinda accurate but not that accurate
and the recoil for some reason is huge on it
distant ice
there's no damage difference and if there is it's not significant enough
for coverage it depends on what you want
vital sierra
idk why but on the wall i see it like block the damage
distant ice
wdym
vital sierra
i switch from placing on the wall to the ground when dealing with the bloody door
when i placed on the ground, after opening the bloody door
i shot the mine
killing the entire bloody door ( if it was small sleepers )
distant ice
as i said coverage
wise geode
maybe we need a controalble mine
distant ice
depends on every door tbh and if you can even do that
vital sierra
well
distant ice
but what i think of as ideal
facing the door, but above what sleepers would trigger themselves
after you're sure everything's spawned you shoot it and that'll show them
vital sierra
completely clear of small sleeper with 1 mines
i think shooting the mine is the best option
when all the enemies are pack in 1 place instead of them spreading out
distant ice
it gives control over the timing so it's superior in that way yes, but it's not always possible and overall is a weird use of it since you disregard the laser itself
maybe they'll change (fix) the way mines chain so then we'll see fun combos
unkempt ridge
damage multiplier is fixed, can someone confirm you can one shot a scout again in the occiput ?
minor fractal
@unkempt ridge I don't think the hotfix has taken effect, pump is still a 3 shot to titan strikers.
No update on steam, either
dull schooner
So is the sniper mostly just good for sniping scouts? Can it hold up in a regular horde
minor fractal
@dull schooner Its main role is a scout killer. Buffs for R2 and the most recent patch mean it's much more effective than it was before against ordinary enemies, especially titans.
Shotgun is definitely more efficient, but sniper can hold its own fairly well now.
The range also adds utility.
dull schooner
What's a good primary to pair it with? Pistol?
minor fractal
Primary should fill whatever roles the sniper can't. I would take a weapon you can kill a lot with fairly efficiently.
On the other hand, pistol manages to be very ammo efficient, so you can sacrifice your combat potential in favor of conserving resources.
dull schooner
What's a pure combat weapon in primary slot then?
minor fractal
Most of them are capable of combat. Burst rifle is very strong atm, AR and SMG are both good, and machine pistol can be quite efficient if used properly.
Base it off of the weapons strengths and weaknesses, and what you work well with.
unkempt ridge
no dmr mention smh
minor fractal
DMR isn't really anti-horde.
You pick things off with it, and try to be as accurate as possible.
Plus it has utility with range.
minor fractal
I like pistol as a thinning weapon
If I have allies that are capable of damage, and our sentries are well-stocked, I can just pick off whatever gets past.
distant ice
but if you're against a pack you can neither kill all quickly nor stagger as good as autos
the recoil is a bit too much honestly
2nd shot is kilometers above the first
minor fractal
It's a tap weapon through-and-through
@unkempt ridge Two-shot pump is back, expect revolver to be as it was.
distant ice
it's my weapon of choice in A and B levels, haven't played D1 and not using it in C1 and C2
unkempt ridge
good ty :3
What's a pure combat weapon in primary slot then?
@dull schooner tbh the point of a primary weapon is to be for pure combat so you can pick whatever you prefer, the "pure combat" term is pretty blurry too
take machine pistol anyway
distant ice
don't
unkempt ridge
do
distant ice
no
dull schooner
machine pistol feels like such a wet noodle
unkempt ridge
I don't hear the haters
distant ice
can't kill anything with it properly
minor fractal
MP is good if you stick to close range (damage dropoff is obscene) and can burst with it. It's very much like the pistol, in that it's best for a few dispersed targets. Other weapons are more capable of hoards.
distant ice
it's a weapon you need to fill sleeper's mouths with, but they get staggered before that and you start missing
minor fractal
MP should be thought of as a different style of pistol.
distant ice
the weapon itself works against you
unkempt ridge
no trolling, mp is op when all enemies rush toward you in line, from a door, corridor or something, you literally kill half of them in 1 mag full auto, placement does everything
but once they're in the room that become kinda hard imo
at least they're in close range
minor fractal
Honestly, I don't like MP because it plays like combat shotgun, which I also don't enjoy using.
distant ice
isn't it max 5 kills per clip anyway
dull schooner
i feel like the smg kills so much better
distant ice
only fun thing i feel i could do with mp is unload 200 bullets at a door
craggy pier
^
minor fractal
Yah, but it has a lot of ammo. It's probably more ammo efficient than SMG.
It's just such a pain to use.
dull schooner
To me it feels like a weapon for holding off a horde as you're kiting down a narrow corridor, since you can just tap an enemy's head to interrupt them as they're about to tongue you
But it feels terrible for actually killing things
unkempt ridge
i feel like the smg kills so much better
@dull schooner smg has less rpm, less ammo, worse hip fire accuracy, longer reload time and worst flashlight so that's a sacrifice you have to be ready to do
I prefer smg too don't get me wrong
it's just not the same
distant ice
focus for more than 3 seconds at one target and you're gonna get licked by a crawler or something from the side
i couldn't kill something fast enough with mp
partly falls on my skills with the gun but i like tapping so much more
unkempt ridge
whats your usual loadout
unkempt ridge
pistol gang
distant ice
but not in C levels, which is where i'm at rn
can't hit shadows for crap and C2 is just C2
minor fractal
Has anyone gotten much use out of the MG?
unkempt ridge
ooof big spoil ill pretend I didnt read that
minor fractal
I want to use it, but can't really find good applications. Seems like it's a good little guy killer, but extremely hard to use.
Literally, all they have to do is bring back chargers and I will go back to MG.
distant ice
i imagine you'd use MG more exclusively on hordes now instead of tapping
but then by the time you got recoil under control you're gonna get licked by a crawler
good luck aiming after that kek
minor fractal
I've gotten pretty good at moderate control over the MG, it's definitely a body shot weapon now.
but the only enemies I would body shot are titans, which shotgun is very good against.
distant ice
yep
minor fractal
Hopefully there are either chargers this rundown or MG comes back when chargers come back.
Because if I find any I'm not using pump for that.
minor fractal
I really don't like pump against chargers
Their tongue range is just enough to out-range you.
distant ice
idk about that, maybe i just instinctively used to take a step forward
minor fractal
I think that's probably what you have to do.
Close distance as they approach to get first strike.
But I'd rather run MG for the range.
distant ice
only moment i remember is me vs 6 chargers that i had to kite, i went out of the ceiling room and shot all 6 from the stairs