hardish b level
#gtfo-related-questions
ocean spindle
we should just check the wiki
nah
funnier to do blind
r4 doesnt have a lot but , d1, d2 and e1 are bangers blind
copper rivet
I think none of us would be satisfied if we didn't do the whole level
but yeeeesh, it is a little spooky to sign up for who knows what
vital light
I plan to make a GTFO style one-shot for my DnD sessions, any cool ideas how I could tackle the combat system or fear, maybe instead of actions I could use the stamina/pulse system, stealth combat? If anyone would have some interesting ideas, I'd be happy if people shared :3 Or maybe even share some other shooter-like systems that I could build upon
livid stone
scattergun
vital light
...definitely I will make some available and balanced loadouts and I suppose scattergun shall be a weapon in one of them, noted o7
tardy ingot
the scattergun is kinda the equivalent of a nuke 
tardy ingot
I plan to make a GTFO style one-shot for my DnD sessions, any cool ideas how I c...
if you wanna tackle stamina it would likely make retreating movement less likely to succeed if youve been in combat for a while
melee attacks would also take longer to become ready if in combat for extended periods of time
the 4 melee weapons can kinda work as different classes with some creativity
bat, spear and hammer would still likely be in mind with the charging mechanic with knife probably ignoring it
Stealth would be a lot more complex to input probably. You could theoretically do rolls on stealth take downs with players having to pay attention to glowing enemies or scouts moving around but 
vital light
Yeah stealth might be a bit too complicated and too "boring" for a one-shot
And since I want the oneshot to take 2-4 hours, doing like a 1h stealth section might take all the fun away unless I execute it perfectly
I definitely am thinking about dimension travel so I'm leaning towards a mission like r7a1 and/or r7d1
Since a section like a reactor meltdown or transporting/securing a MWP sounds pretty cool
vital light
the 4 melee weapons can kinda work as different classes with some creativity
ba...
And the 4 weapons - 4 classes is also really nice, just need to think of loadouts that are sort of extreme. Like one guy has a revolver, a sniper, but a knife for close range, the other is a maniac with two shotguns and a hammer, need to work on that
tardy ingot
Yeah stealth might be a bit too complicated and too "boring" for a one-shot
I think scouts can be used pretty well as a "have to take out"
with other sleepers being something that the players can maneuver around or decide to kill if they wanted to maybe
But a scout being killed silently means no extra enemies in combat, with it failing making enemies spawn for sure
vital light
I think scouts can be used pretty well as a "have to take out"
with other sleep...
I'll need to bring like..... boiled noodles to the table to show where the tendrils are teehee
On the map
vital light
What do you think the most fun mission to do would be? Like.... first retrieve the MWP, then get teleported, potentially fight some flyers? Then get teleported back, error alarm? I didn't start R8 yet, but maybe you know some missions that could be interesting
And I just want to say, GTFO is SUCH a great idea for DnD. It has literally the perfect start with being dropped a kilometer, just having voices in your brain, remembering barely anything, getting orders and complying, or not...
And ofc [lore spoiler] ||seeing your own corpses in a completely new area|| would go hard aswell
tardy ingot
honestly its always kinda the R6 Story% line in a way (though here skipping R6C1 seems better)
(I actually had an idea for a one shot "kinda dnd" for a stream or so before but it didnt happen back then)
R6B1 is a great level as a whole imo
you need to go get a cell where you get your first scout. But theres an alarm before it
then you need to do an alarm for a key, but you encounter 2 scouts that are likely in rooms with enemies
You finish it off with a scarier alarm before teleporting. When you come back you are then chased by flyers
R8 missions are often a bit.. wild
And I wouldnt wanna talk about them if you havent played through em
the kraken fight in R6D1 could also be a cool "big bad" to fight at the end
vital light
the kraken fight in R6D1 could also be a cool "big bad" to fight at the end <:KE...
Yeaaah that's what I had in mind, but definitely would have to tweak it a little bit as just shooting tumors would be boring..... Weakpoints yeah, but for a bbg fight I feel like it's missing smth
tardy ingot
Yeaaah that's what I had in mind, but definitely would have to tweak it a little...
maybe have its weakspot be inside the "maw" which then mainly opens when it spawns new hordes of flyers so the players have to kill the flyers while also not dying to the projectile (and tentacle) attacks 👀 ?
vital light
maybe have its weakspot be inside the "maw" which then mainly opens when it spaw...
Yeah and the amount of projectiles makes it only so much more fun, rolling like 10d4 for one person's damage if every projectile hits (aka maybe not enough stamina to dodge out the way). A fun way to scare the players ;^
vital light
maybe have its weakspot be inside the "maw" which then mainly opens when it spaw...
I was thinking, maybe I should make the tentacles some sort of a weakpoint aswell? Like they're able to grapple the players but also they're damageable to deal extra damage and engage in combat a bit more
vital light
honestly its always kinda the R6 Story% line in a way (though here skipping R6C1...
Well?? Time to rekindle the idea and make it happen ig. I'm gonna be cooking over the next couple of weeks :3
normal ingot
R6 is definitely the best series of missions for a DnD campaign
though maybe utilizing other mini boss enemies like mothers or stalkers would be nice
since I don't remember R6 having any in the story missions other than one tank
vital light
What is LGTuner mod for? Me no understand :(
I saw it might be good for optimalization, but no clue how to use it and if it's even useful
frail heart
its so you can tune your lgtv
vital light
QwQ
ripe hamlet
it helps with like 3 lvls
its for level generation
mostly modded stuff but i think it helps with r6cx and e2
little pilot
LGTuner is 90% for rundown developers
you can get better performance using it on certain levels but realistically it ain't gonna do much
raven copper
ye playing those lvls vanilla never gave me problems
ironically enough using the lg gave me more problems xd
burnt inlet
What is LGTuner mod for? Me no understand :(
@uneven kiln
uneven kiln
What is LGTuner mod for? Me no understand :(
Short for Level Generation Tuner. It does a huge amount of things behind the scenes in modded to help control layouts of rooms in a precise manner. Simply an absolute staple for modded rundowns. It also fixes some vanilla oversights with level generation such as that can mess up survival wave spawns with area indexing, an example being R4C2 Z55. This doesn't fix the vanilla instances, but it prevents it from happening further.
All that isn't what we use it for in vanilla though. It strongly compliments BCGF by allowing the fixing of props and colliders to prevent some softlocks both for enemies and players. An example of this is the infamous softlock in R5D2, the 2nd highest ladder in R6CX, and the non-traversable door in R8C1 Main for enemies. Similarly, it causes checksum errors if it ends up altering stuff in a level, so everyone in the lobby should be running it if you do. Doesn't require MTFO to be enabled for stuff listed in this paragraph
and speaking of, I need to update wiki since R8C1 is fixed now with it. The door sill prop was missing
lapis tusk
LF1 AltR2D1 "Statistics": 109775241997049071
mystic rock
W question
raven copper
can you answer it, idk what it is?
winter breach
its so you can tune your lgtv
hoary mason
since I don't remember R6 having any in the story missions other than one tank
Ominous ||kraken|| looking at you standing on a balcony
Oh right mini boss enemies
No point to?
And tank is technically optional on main story missions
south phoenix
minor carbon
r1b2 anyone?
raven copper
.t lfg
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valid crescent
Can someone tell me whats the difference between the sniper (the normal one) and the scattergun?
I get the whole range difference thing and they both do absurd damage
raven copper
whats the normal one?
valid crescent
But when should I use them?
timber shoal
sniper is also an exclusively giant/boss kill weapon
raven copper
ye
timber shoal
scatter gets crazy value into clumped smalls
raven copper
scatter does well into everything really
valid crescent
Well good to know im using it as intended as a "get off me" tool
raven copper
anything thats kinda close to you with a scatter will explode
valid crescent
Shame the magazines for both are built in California
raven copper
its way too strong to have more than 2
valid crescent
The mags are built deceptively large
They look like they could've hold at least 2 or even 3 rounds if you stack them propperly
Maybe 4
raven copper
if scatter had 4 it would be more than jus a atom bomb xd
timber shoal
sawed off has a 4 shell mag and you visually load 3
i dont think accuracy is an enormous concern of 10c
raven copper
it was 3 back in the day i believe so makes sense
timber shoal
right
winter shuttle
sawed off has a 4 shell mag and you visually load 3
It's 3+1 promotion
raven copper
the 4th one is actually shot from our mind
vital light
The 4th shot is me spitting at them :3
raven copper
ye exactly
timber shoal
<@&408548765599793173>
pwetty pwease move honeypot 🥺
the bots arent getting caught
woah
i've never seen that pop up before
old mountain
Ngl I didn't even think about whether I could execute that command in here
But it did work
U saw nothing 
raven copper
<@&408548765599793173> they are evolving
rich mountain
<@&408548765599793173> they are evolving
topaz anvil
<@&408548765599793173> they are evolving
What they do
tardy ingot
<@&408548765599793173>
sturdy glen
pro tip, windows + shift + s to crop
timber shoal
crop what
mystic rock
don't look bottom left
minor marsh
sturdy glen
twk
calm pulsar
twk
keen seal
yeah
frail heart
Bruh 😭 😭
normal ingot
please don't say that word when you're obviously whiter than snow
prime ore
Crazy
normal ingot
actually pisses me tf off
civic furnace
timber shoal
why are racist femboys so common lmao
normal ingot
about as common as transphobic gay men
like come on, you're fighting the same battles here
timber shoal
like come on, you're fighting the same battles here
its wild vro
raven copper
white as snow typing up slurs
raven copper
ye vro posted a screenshot with them saying the nword in game chat asking about something in game xd
smartest racist
ocean spindle
brah
ocean spindle
smh its gone for me
timber shoal
wait guys its still there for me
take a screenie
minor marsh
if u have vencord u can see it always
timber shoal
thats screenshot for those of you that are new to the chat
ocean spindle
well chat we learnt lessons today
dont say words u cant
thats why i can say beaner ✨
belongs to me its mine
frail heart
okay but sniff you gotta practice what you preach
ocean spindle
whats the point of using derogatory terms
cuz its funnt
trying to insult a mexican say that word is hilarious to me cuz like yes beans slap
they v good
ocean spindle
nom
frail heart
slendi do you know how to make burritos
ocean spindle
slendi do you know how to make burritos
are u asking a mexican if they know how to burrito
raven copper
cuz its funnt
little weird for that tbh
frail heart
normal ingot
gotta use a molcajete for the guac
ocean spindle
gotta use a molcajete for the guac
so true and real
its been a while since i had guac :[
i needs
subtle cairn
what missions are ez to do solo?
frail heart
what missions are ez to do solo?
r6a1
ocean spindle
what missions are ez to do solo?
r1b1 is probs by far the easiest
irs the only one i can consistently do it on
if u mean alone alone, with bots with range is way more expanded
long pollen
normal ingot
another day another cryostasis dodger
ocean lance
I just activated this one don't bother
fathom ice
can't believe they didn't hit the honey pot
civic wave
post where there's embed + message perms on channels in your list, probably
if someone doesn't have honeypot because their account is older and/or they don't have it added in their channel list then
lament pagoda
Hi, I want to offer my help and translate the game into Russian... Are u interested?)
frank cairn
I got my boy Google Translate on Stand by.
blissful dove
Email press (at) 10chambers (dot) com and we'll add you to our list of potential community localizers.
hard stream
How big the dev team is? Have you externalized any services to cope with that?
Will the game feature any sort of progressions? How about clases?
quasi mesa
dev team is 9 people, and progression/classes are more weapon choices and tools
rose basalt
they're 9
tulip tinsel
Shouldn't it be 9 chambers then dabs
unique junco
GTFO Bot
rapid saddle
I wonder if there been change to potatoes, Muzzle flash and reload animation. Can't wait to see if any of those has change in the next trailer
granite fox
I made the Chambers and stuff at home
pulsar palm
Okay this is going to sound like a bit of a random question, but roughly how many keys or buttons are we looking at playing with? Is this going to be one of those games that use every single key on the keyboard or is the controls list kept small? Thanks and best wishes for your upcoming release.
dreamy wave
Is there a French localizer yet? I guess i could help
coral garden
Will it be possible to Game codes for when i stream on my channel to give away during the beta phase or no?
mild ravine
u should probs ask a mod to ask a admin to ask a dev
Cus spreading aweareness for this game could help alot with its populary
coral garden
oo thanks bro deffinitly will ask
prisma pendant
I dont know if anyone has asked this but; Is or will there be a skill tree system ?
mild ravine
Well it would be pretty weird since there are no classes so what would their be a skill tree for?
narrow kettle
You dont need classes for skill trees
mild ravine
No but like What would actually be in it
There are 4 tools u can bring in atm and a handful fo weps and specials
narrow kettle
Some kind of specialization id assume
mild ravine
what would u be able to gain from it
and what would be the cost to unlock more in it?
narrow kettle
Morw damage, accuracy for certain tools/guns
narrow kettle
Ye
mild ravine
Maybe wep attatchments?
narrow kettle
I dont think there will be a skilltree though
mild ravine
and custom skins?
narrow kettle
Skins dont make sense for a skilltree
mild ravine
Idfk im jsut brainstorming for ur idea to work
narrow kettle
I didnt come up with the skilltree :p
mild ravine
we need a shit ton of skins for all the guns
narrow kettle
Hell yeah
prisma pendant
my idea for skill trees were more along the line for things such as Path of Exile were it is stat bonuses like health to reload speed , etc.
playing the game in general would gain you the ability to gain points to then actually completing would gain you more . These again would only be stat bonuses not like payday style skills . Something that will do minor bonus but bonus non the less .
midnight quarry
Having bonuses for playing the game over time would be pretty cool instead of just game/enemy knowledge
prisma pendant
I can go on but i dont wanna flood this particular chat instead but im down to throw in some more ideas for what i fully mean on the skill trees aspect ...well more of a stat tree i guess
mild ravine
@prisma pendant Give them more reasons to make this a thing!!
Who knows if u give them enough reasons they might do it
a skill tree implemented into the game would be a big job so if they were going to do it it would be alot of work i would assume
fast python
I really do dislike the progression system in PoE, but there are variants used in other games I did like.
Progression system where you make your own kind of "class", being able to switch up different base stats, etc.
And I do enjoy my 3.5
prisma pendant
I feel like GTFO could really benefit in that style progress system. Help give people the incentive to try new styles or builds . Go for things such more wider selection of playstyles while still having that unique feeling of every player is different both playstyles and stats
prisma pendant
it is but games like GTFO you dont want a normal skill tree
mild ravine
idk i don't play PoE
You want something unique
And maybe something normal would probably work with GTFO
fast python
It's great for min/max, but you also land in a "I pick 10 strength for the 15th time just to get the skill I want.
midnight quarry
I feel like with a skill tree there are options to improve QoL over time and feel as though progression has been made as opposed to nothing to cater to someone who ends up vetting the game
prisma pendant
i figured something small stats could help some but never too much for players where come later experiences you can just breeze through the game without much thought
mild ravine
Like KF2 how if u get to P3 max level most guns can fuck over Zeds
brisk venture
I think the main reason they don't want a skill tree is to avoid what happened to Payday 2. The skills were incredibly powerful and made even the hardest difficulties fairly easy. They want GTFO to be more about teamwork and personal skill, and not about leveling your character to become a god
mild ravine
THEN DONT MAKE IT THAT WAY
fast python
I wonder what progression system apart from weapon customisation there will be.
midnight quarry
well that's kind of the thing, payday had their skill trees be class based
prisma pendant
I understand that @brisk venture hence why the skill tree idea was more of a stat tree . very small effects that mostly are there for a small reward
mild ravine
Well i would like that so you can have a form of class with your perks
Like almost nothing but once u put them alltogether it makes a difference but not 2 much to change it
brisk venture
@prisma pendant Oh, okay. Yeah, that would be fine. Still, I understand why they don't want that.
mild ravine
They never said they wern't did they?
fast python
Payday: The Heist didn't have that bad of a progression system. Even when you were maxed out, the enemies and maps could still provide you with a heavy challenge. It is one of many things that make me prefer PDTH, in front of PD2
prisma pendant
Maybe more like the minor bonuses like .5% bonus to max ammo at start of match or .25% bonus to max health
brisk venture
I don't think they've confirmed it, but I doubt it'll be in the game. They've said they want your class to be dictated by your gear, and not your abilities. Basically, if you want to be a medic, pick a medic bag, etc.
amber veldt
🤔
prisma pendant
Which i am completely fine with, I understand completely their want of a realistic approach which also puts an emphasis on the horror aspect of the game. Just thought it was an interesting thought and i wanted to share.
brisk venture
I think the reason they don't want a skill tree, and instead put the focus on your gear, is to make the game more about scavenging. You'll find weapons, gear, etc., in the levels. If you add a skill tree, whether minor or not, it takes away some of the importance of scavenging. I understand why some people would want a skill tree, but the way they're designing the gear/scavenging aspect makes so it doesn't really fit in.
prisma pendant
Also storyline wise i understand completely on the scavenging point. These characters are going down there to scavenge and recover specific items so scavenging weapons and gear while your down there makes the most sense realistically
fast python
There are some great examples out there of tacked-on, useless skill trees that add nothing to the experience of gameplay, and even detract from it.
mild ravine
We are prisoners
craggy pier
epic
prisma pendant
i feel like they can implement the stat bonus/ stat tree rather than skill tree with more ease but not something that id say should be a primary. just like the idea of : Survive a few matches, your character becomes stronger and can handle the extra weight of bullets or maybe he has a higher pain tolerance or maybe they are slightly faster on their feet or even more proficient at first aid.
mild ravine
Something minor that can effect your experience and your playstyle
For instance i play a medic in most games or any kind of support for my team
So having something like a perk for Healing others would be benificial but not gamebreaking like i would heal slightly more with the medic supplys or be able to use it for longer
then maybe with the crazy bastards who run in balls deep in the mess have it so they take slightly less dmg or deal slightly more when they are withina certain raidious of a enemy
prisma pendant
they'll still die all the same if they dont properly think out a battle plan or strategy. But if they just rampage through and get swarmed maybe it could take an extra second or so before going down
mild ravine
Yea something not major but something rl minor
craggy pier
I honestly think the devs should do a Reddit AMA to get their game out there more
terse obsidian
I imagen they will at some point as the game gets closer to release but at the moment it's all hands on deck 😃
craggy pier
Yeah definitely, i want to help in some way just really don’t know how
prisma pendant
@craggy pier just continue to share their game teasers, trailers and gameplay videos with friends and others you meet . As of now its the best we can do to help spread the word of the game .
craggy pier
100%
terse obsidian
craggy pier
I want my name in the credits for all my hardwork
prisma pendant
Just randomly say Ted Mosby at the end of the credits . Nothing else , just Ted Mosby
halcyon stag
dabbing monster please
elder ingot
When you shoot at the Monster, it dabs harder
narrow kettle
dabbing harder is generally pretty good
halcyon stag
and pls hav simon eat more oranges
willow shoal
Dab too hard and you may pull a hamstring or something. It's a dangerous world out there!
terse obsidian
Remember to keep channel on topic please 😉
halcyon stag
oh fuk, i thought this was the suggestion channel my bad
willow shoal
Oops. Been in general all day. Gotta keep track of where I am
narrow kettle
👌
grand spire
I read before but was unsure, will GTFO be able to be loaded on private servers or will there just be a bunch of public servers?
tranquil fog
p2p so it can be a little bit of both,
grand spire
Ahh nice, the AWS and Azure craze everyone has been hitting on brings terrible network consequences. When you pay to be on a shared pipe, you get shared pipe results
willow shoal
Yeah, the game will be P2P officially, but there's nothing saying people can't set up permanent dedicated servers of their own
tranquil fog
i mean we dont know if dedicated servers will be a thing for now 
willow shoal
ie, a personal system set up on a solid connection to host multiple lobbies
They won't be at launch.
grand spire
Yea, i only ask since i colo a lot of stuff. I have a few servers acrodd the US i wouldn't mind loading it up on
willow shoal
I'm pretty sure Simon has already stated that it will at least start out pure p2p
grand spire
across*
narrow kettle
@willow shoal Yes, it's confirmed
willow shoal
But as I stated, that's not saying that a player, say, @grand spire, can't set the game up on a number of his own computers to run his own personal dedicated servers.
ruby lance
peer-2-peer is the cheaper and more future-proof choice for a game that doesn't demand strict adherence to game rules, what with being co-op and all
grand spire
I'm sure there will be a way to possibly run a headless client to act as a dedicated server, that was the arma 3 solution
Hyper-V can load unlimited instances too so it won't be limited unless it needs a dedicated video card ect...
I agree with P2P all the way. I'm just happy to have a good coop game on the table for 2019 😃
narrow kettle
@fleet pecan pls no
tranquil fog
i mean for honor a pvp game. needs to have dedicated, becuse it will be screwed over badly, and its a ubisoft game. so obviously p2p would be garbage. 
fleet pecan
most fighting games get by on P2P but that's because they're 1 on 1, FH collapsed big time
doing great now though
thorny turret
Was kinda wondering, so when starting the game is it like you are going for a certain point to get something, or is it, you go down to escape, while being tested?
prisma pendant
@thorny turret based on what I've seen for the game , it is an objective you are trying to complete and is the reasoning you are going down into these creature infested location . I.e. recover I.D. badge to open gate to access terminal . I dont know how in depth it'll be or if there is a large style escape feature due to them primarily showing beginning of matches and middle not really end sadley .
I could be wrong and they may of disclosed more info about the game but I'm going off what the videos the Devs released showed me
thorny turret
Got the same conclusion from the videos, not totally the same, but in the same way.
prisma stirrup
How are you guys (devs) approaching game difficulty in its entirety? Are you adding new and interesting monsters or hazards, or tweaking a few numbers like less bullets + harder to sneak, or just making the enemies bullet sponges in the later difficulty, or some sort of mix? If you have different or selectable difficulties at all (or dynamic difficulty).
And if you cant tell/haven't figured it out yet its fine
hasty mauve
@prisma stirrup Having a big emphasis on sneaking, while still having it scary, while in coop, is.. interesting 😬
We won’t go in to exact details now, but I don’t think you will be disappointed!
That being said, JUST adding more hp to enemies to make it harder seems like a cheap way out
lunar carbon
Oh dang sorry
jade wolf
10) Will GTFO support mods? No, not at release - but it could possibly be added at a later date.
lunar carbon
Where's the faq?
lunar carbon
Omg i am so sorry
jade wolf
no worries, it's a blur amongst the myriad 
craggy pier
can't find it in #faq and searchbar dosen't seem to anwser it: Will players be able to change fov in the settings menu?
brisk venture
Yeah, most likely. Again, if there's any questions about certain technical features there's always #4 in the faq
- Will GTFO have feature "X"? (E.g. SLI support, dedicated servers, character customization)
We encourage you to ask in the forum - but before that, please ask yourself: Do you know many other FPS games that have this feature and are developed by a team of less than 10 people? If the answer is no, please calibrate your expectations accordingly.
craggy pier
Thanks for answering so fast.
narrow kettle
👍
devout jetty
I've been going back through the questions and I had to bring up one topic that brings some concern to me. Friendly fire, or people who can abuse it to harass other players. is there a way to address this? I'm not too eager to find myself getting killed right before the game start/ends just for someone's amusement. It's also a waste of time to go through. What about people who would intentionally run into friendly fire? I've seen it happen in other games. Like the rest of the whole team runs into an explosive, and the player who used it ends up getting kicked out (I'm sure there are some people that recognized which game I'm referring to by now). Trolls these days...
rotund salmon
Why does some enemy have the "Naruto running animation"? Not sure if i like them running like that though.
narrow kettle
@devout jetty forwarded your question 👌
open geyser
It's less "Naruto running" than creatures running with inert ragdoll arms
finite silo
open geyser
I mean, even if you dislike the animation you get to destroy those using it, so it's win-win I guess?
hasty mauve
Monsters with tentacles, basically anime, just missing the kawaii parts 😅
hasty mauve
For the love of God. Please don’t
fleet prawn
?
rose basalt
you can't stop it!
narrow kettle
gtfo related btw
halcyon spade
Why did that make me laugh tho D:
fleet prawn
well are you a charming fella
halcyon spade
I try
random beacon
@hasty mauve you say there is going to be a big emphasis on sneaking but would we still be able to go gunblaseing sometimes like in payday 2 where you can also kill hords i know this is not the area you wanna focus on but will we maybe have some option/mission to have fun like that ? with a chaotic mess ?
calm cliff
Are enemies ambient, and spawn evenly across the level, or do they come in waves? Maybe a mix of both?
quasi mesa
both, theres sleepers scattered around with more enemies coming from offscreen
hasty mauve
@random beacon combat is an option, But ammo retention is a thing, so you might want to think twice before engaging 😃
And it makes noice.. 😃
calm cliff
Fun stuff, I'll be sure to pack extra ammunition, it's fun to shoot things and make noise.
random beacon
@hasty mauve so balls to the walls is not an option or does that just make it very hard ? pun not intented
blissful dove
@random beacon Everything is an option but not everything is a guaranteed success. GTFO is designed to favor slow and methodical movement over run-and-gun.
The game has a huge emphasis on exploration, stealth, detecting where a fight will be unavoidable and then preparing the surroundings for that fight. You close doors to funnel monsters, place trip mines and sentry guns, spray glue on the ground, etc.
willow shoal
I keep seeing comments where people seem to be under the false impression that the game can be played like a typical shooter... 😉
coarse spire
You mean we can't play this like a battle royale?
willow shoal
Yep. Glue Gun can be used to seal doors... can also be used to slow down enemies
quasi mesa
is the glue tasty?
prisma stirrup
yea I have a feeling that this game is gonna be super unique in its gameplay and I cant wait
willow shoal
Might end up with a glued shut mouth, but yeah.. it's yummy!
blissful dove
Yeah it's 4P coop PvE like PD2 and so on, but you can't really compare it to other games in the genre. It has a completely different pacing.
lunar carbon
So you would say the gunplay is unique on its own?
blissful dove
@lunar carbon There's gunplay, there's toolplay...
willow shoal
You'll actually want to use your guns as a last resort. Ammo is limited.
lunar carbon
Got it, so the shooty shooty option is the very last thing you want to do then
prisma stirrup
are there gonna be unique guns, or is it just your typical guns?
willow shoal
There's also sledge hammer play...
coarse spire
From what I saw from E3 gameplay, melee is a big part
quasi mesa
can i make a gun thats entirely based around glue
glue meta
theres a bunch of different guns
and you can mix andm atch
so shotgun receiver for smg
etc
coarse spire
because in stealth it conserves ammo, charge up shots do a lot of dmg, keeps you in stealth better, etc.
lunar carbon
You fool, the enemies exist because they sniff too much glue
blissful dove
There are gonna be a huge amount of different guns, because you can mix and match gun parts.
quasi mesa
how many melee weapons are there simon
prisma stirrup
oooh neat
quasi mesa
is there a katana to satisfy the weebs?
coarse spire
Can we name our guns Simon?
quasi mesa
^
prisma stirrup
^
coarse spire
If I can't name my gun Chloe or Alice I'll cry
quasi mesa
id love to name and paint my guns
prisma stirrup
^ custom paint jobs?
coarse spire
custom paint will probably not be on release if I had to bet
but who knows what the boys are working on
quasi mesa
just base color swaps are good tbh
i really want to make a gun from the enemies
warframe style
willow shoal
Yeah... I suspect cosmetic customization is not a priority right now... 😉
quasi mesa
use the tentacle to leech lief for your teammates
lunar carbon
Yeah but will be also have a very strict profanity filter >_>
coarse spire
I'd like a profanity filter to be toggleable tbh
But I don't see myself talking in game much anyways
like with text
quasi mesa
I feel like profanity amongst prisoners being forced into death sitautions is very much in character
lunar carbon
Oh no, in warframe the profanity filter is too strict if you want to name your weapons etc
coarse spire
Theres no harm in one being on by default or by choice but this is an adult game so it would seem a little silly
blissful dove
Profanity filter?
blissful dove
The characters in the game are very foulmouthed.
coarse spire
simon I love you
blissful dove
Hackett, the Irish character, reaches for the C-word when the going gets tough.
prisma stirrup
oof
coarse spire
LOL of course he does
lost pivot
Crikey!
blissful dove
It wasn't even in the script, but the actor just went for it. Irish people can't be contained.
coarse spire
yeah
quasi mesa
gib pls bb
coarse spire
Let me type it up
blissful dove
It actually haven't been made public but we sent out an audio blog to all the ambassadors that disclosed that info.
brisk venture
Honey about to leak top secret documents 🤔
lunar carbon
Honestly i keep hearing about hammers and i'm just wondering if it's possible to have sledge from rainbow 6 siege with the pulverizer from killing floor 2
willow shoal
There will be a number of 'heavy duty' type melee weapons in the game.
coarse spire
Woods (American) - Catholic, badass, looking for redemption in the complex
Hackett (Irish) - joker of the group, comic relief, cracks jokes
Dauda (Dot) (Nigerian) - dude in the trailer, seems serious
Bishop (Hoxton 2.0) (British) - Uppity british person, serious, calculated, little arrogant
lunar carbon
What's up with the cable?
quasi mesa
a weapon to surpass metal gear
coarse spire
It's been a while so I wanted to make sure I got it right, also that hammer looks cool
prisma stirrup
found the audio blog
narrow kettle
iirc melee weapons all have the same stats currently
blissful dove
Hammer with a cable. Does it run on solar power?
lunar carbon
Nah mang, wind energy
blissful dove
lol
prisma stirrup
underground? design fail
quasi mesa
it runs on the souls of those you murder
lost pivot
Ah, that's what the cable is for
blissful dove
As you swing it, it gains energy for the hit.
lost pivot
souls
lunar carbon
You gotta run fast to power the turbine in the hammer
It's all kinetic junk
Like that paper windmill you used to play with as a kid
blissful dove
I gotta pop out for a bit. I'll be back later.
prisma stirrup
k bye
quasi mesa
i hope melee only is viable
prisma stirrup
that would be fun, but sounds like it could pose balancing issues. doesnt use ammo, is always silent, etc
calm cliff
i mean keep in mind that as far we saw
quasi mesa
you could make it just CC
quasi mesa
wide sweeping attacks to help control the mobs in the door
calm cliff
yes you'll be dealing good damage but then its like, "im putting myself at risk being close to these things"
quasi mesa
not totally killing them
thats a good risk reward tbh
risk getting hit
but ccing them to make them easier for teammates to deal with
prisma stirrup
and sacrificing all/most ranged options
coarse spire
I don't see melee only being viable with unavoidable loud encounters in every expedition
devout jetty
... bayonets?
calm cliff
chainsaw
lunar bay
well just stay quite aslong as you can :D
calm cliff
chainsaw bayonets
devout jetty
gears of war style i like it
hasty mauve
quasi mesa
chainsaw with knives instead of chain
hasty mauve
Regarding the hammer 😉
calm cliff
rocket propelled hammer huh
quasi mesa
yeah rocket hammer 100%
prisma stirrup
chainsaw sounds fun, and would have interesting gameplay applications. cant use it for stealth, but when crap hits the fan it would come in handy
quasi mesa
movement and big meaty hits
devout jetty
well, there is the exploding hammer in killing floor 2...
hasty mauve
Love it, makes so much sense, yet so little at the same time
quasi mesa
devout jetty
yes that!
calm cliff
yeah
but anyways
melee is a great addition to any game because it makes me scream like loudly
every time i do something crazy
hasty mauve
Melee is also silent..
devout jetty
???
quasi mesa
idk melt down the iron in it or something
calm cliff
well give us the option to make our characters scream loud battlecries when we charge random enemies with melee so they arent silent
devout jetty
anyways, is bayonets a possible attachment to guns? i was actually asking that as a serious question.
tranquil fog
silent and sneaky 
lunar bay
idk if bayonets are gonna go into the game but we could suggest it
craggy pier
Is the game P2P?
coarse spire
Yeah
craggy pier
good
quasi mesa
im thinkin 30 with a +10/15 deluxe thing
coarse spire
I think Simon said they don't know what they'd put in special editions or pre-orders (if they were doing them which they're not)
quasi mesa
they can always add a supporter edition later
coarse spire
Yaya, I'd buy the most expensive one in a heart beat lol
quasi mesa
im basically just paying 30$ for more of simons music
quasi mesa
will there be cosmetics introduced later on?
hasty mauve
We have discussed that, it’s a hard to topic, having fans asking about ways to support etc, without coming across as sellouts with our strong stand on lootboxes.
So I can’t answer that for now
narrow kettle
unlockable cosmetics to flex
craggy pier
Yeah, as long as we know what we buy, it's fine
quasi mesa
did someone say vermintide 2 hats
hasty mauve
Something for the evaluation sheets maybe 😉
narrow kettle
vt2 cosmetics arent good to flex
quasi mesa
wdym
narrow kettle
theyre RNG
narrow kettle
you can only flex with frames
quasi mesa
i had 8~ hats when i left
narrow kettle
the ones you can obtain dont mean anything
completing maps on legend
more like omegalul
quasi mesa
vt2 is just sitting in the hubworld roleplaying
calm cliff
That's some good attitude.
lunar bay
question : is the Puzzle bug solved?The one where you turn around like squares. Like simon would know what i talk about (happened during my gameplay xD)
low oracle
I got a question about weapon attachment. Is there going to be supressors or is the only way to run slient going to be with melee attacks
lunar bay
surpressors would ruin the gameplay
narrow kettle
There won't be surpressors
lunar bay
i think they said that
rose basalt
Yeah, stealth will be only with melee
narrow kettle
and sync'd shots
low oracle
Ah I see, ok was curious
blissful dove
Right now there are no suppressors in the game. It would make sense for the characters in the game to seek out and utilize suppressors because it would make it possible for them to take out monsters from a distance undetected. But it would also make sense for suppressors to be a hard thing to come by in their situation - they're not special forces and they don't have access to that kind of hardware - so we have a logical explanation for why there aren't any.
What's most important is not whether the characters would want suppressors or if they'd be able to find them, but whether they fit into the game design.
We believe the don't, because once you have a suppressed weapon you're gonna be able to take out monsters without putting yourself in danger. Melee attacks force you to get up close - and that makes you vulnerable. Suppressors would have to be nerfed somehow, but we don't want to have them break so you'll have to replace them and so on - that would only be frustrating.
So no, there are no suppressors in the game. But there might be other gadgets with limited uses that give you a similar advantage.
prisma stirrup
also suppressors aren't quiet like in video games and movies, they are still pretty loud. just mainly used so you don't need hearing protection
opal mortar
Maybe have a 5 use only silenced pistol that takes up and its given to every character?
you are free to use it 5 times per play no questions asked
low oracle
@opal mortar I was thinking something like a character skill or something like how some have turrets so maybe one with that
opal mortar
Yes,but that would mean everyone will pick it
just give it to everyone but 5 uses only
the game get out of jail card
Irrelevant right now but I have old hardware and i need some answers:
-AMD athlon x2 220 processor
-ATI radeon hd4500 series
-4gb of ram
are not enough to run the game i imagine
rose basalt
oof
karmic kelp
i bet you can make it RUN
opal mortar
I will try to force DirectX6 if i must
karmic kelp
but if it will be playable is a different story
blissful dove
Sorry, no, we don't believe that would serve the game's unique design and/or improve the game's appeal. Our ideas (the one I vaguely described above) forces players to coordinate and communicate, which is what the game is all about. Giving everyone silenced weapons wouldn't make sense from a logical standpoint (why would the characters be able to pick up ammo for all other weapons but not for the silenced ones?) nor from a game design standpoint.
opal mortar
I understand Vinklund it was just a thought thank you for your reply
blissful dove
@opal mortar We can't say whether any specific rig will be able to run the game or not, but you can check our rig specs in the FAQ and compare it to yours to make an educated guess.
opal mortar
My educated guess its that it will run,trough sheer brute force but it will run
karmic kelp
you can make any DX11 title run on DX10, is it worth it tho? (I used dev tools and got 2 FPS in R6 Siege on 9600 GT)
in menu
so yeah
opal mortar
just give us an option to disable most post processing effects which usually kills the most fps (and lod distance)
karmic kelp
i made it RUN
opal mortar
I made PD2 ran in my hardware through modding,config editing and sheer force of will same with CSGO right now
I seriously need an upgrade
calm cliff
ive made a lot of games run through sheer force of will and also a bit of patience and trial and error
rose basalt
Those 2 games are far less resource demanding
opal mortar
@blissful dove Thanks for answering all my questions,much appreciated
calm cliff
ive also made an entire guide for vermintide 2
and how you can reduce graphics quality with .ini tweaks to really make the game run better for low-end pcs
it covers a lot of stuff
karmic kelp
Low Spec gaming is a great sport
opal mortar
I know right
calm cliff
i agree, surprisingly enough though, unity is the hardest to do it with IMO
karmic kelp
but you can't really bypass DX level AND have a playable game
opal mortar
You dont know me
calm cliff
because the devs often lock their options in their .ini files way, WAY down into a hard-coded territory
opal mortar
and what i am capable of
karmic kelp
but, i'd say we move it to #general
as it is not really a question about the game anymore
quasi mesa
Imo a silenced pistol with low ammo or suppressor durability would be best
lost pivot
A chunky, nasty-looking rock with poor aerodynamic qualities that will alert everything if you miss with it
coarse spire
I'm OK with no silenced weapons
narrow kettle
same
coarse spire
And I was a giant PD2 stealth player
blissful dove
Personally, I think durability functionalities are vague and frustrating. And if they're too exact, like "the suppressor will always break after 10 shots" then it's not realistic. It's better to come up with a solution that gives a good reason for why the item could only be used x amount of times (or it's a one-use item and you have x amount of them). It'll make player accept the logics of the item, and it will be easy to keep track of when you're running out of uses.
quasi mesa
Id rather it come out later once everything is balance tweaked
Maybe have suppressors be just for 1 mission
And get confiscated etc
blissful dove
Hm... you'll know that this solution wouldn't work if you knew how the game works. But we'll get into that at a later date...
quasi mesa
Yeah it's hard making suggestions with how little info is available
blissful dove
Agreed..
calm cliff
from what ive heard of the dynamic music its not our common edm dnb ordeal, is it?
blissful dove
If you expect PD2 music you're up for a huge disappointment.
calm cliff
because honestly i dont think itd suit the game
quasi mesa
I'm looking forwards to seeing how you do horror/suspense
karmic kelp
I am in for progressive, weird, multi-layer tracks!
quasi mesa
If you don't change up the formula it's no fun
calm cliff
i mean im still just gonna mute it and play loud as heck fight music and go through all the levels that way, but i feel like other people would enjoy the game more with suspenseful horror stuff
blissful dove
Yeah the music in GTFO is a totally different beast, both in technical terms (how it's implemented in the game) and in terms of style/mood.
quasi mesa
Wonderful
karmic kelp
The teasers got me interested
rose basalt
I think we all already know how flexible you are, Simon. You're an ace so I for one am not gonna be dissapointed anyway
calm cliff
i at least hope that it'll get gritty during action moments
karmic kelp
So I can't wait to hear more
narrow kettle
Simon actually flexing with music
calm cliff
get high quality microphone to record the sub-sonic sounds of simon's muscles flexing and put it into the music
rose basalt
Is there any genre you're not good at, I wonder
blissful dove
"Ah, I hear a conga playing a 16th note pattern, so there must be a monster 60 degrees to the left"
quasi mesa
I'd play that game
calm cliff
dead by daylight did some good dynamic music that tenses up at the right times
quasi mesa
Have a good beb simon
calm cliff
see ya viklund, relax yourself my dude
rose basalt
Good night Simon
rose basalt
oh my god
karmic kelp
Night, Simon
narrow kettle
that was scary
rose basalt
BRRRROTHEEEER
narrow kettle
DONT COME TOO CLOSE
calm cliff
ITS NOT OVER YET, SNAKE
lunar bay
opal mortar
Nite Simon
random beacon
@blissful dove well the music i found on your soundcloude isnt bad based on https://soundcloud.com/simonviklund/the-complex
but how is the rest of the music in the game is it ambient kinda music ? or is this song from damage vault close the the style you guys are going with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl4TktRarUI
calm cliff
ngl now that i listen to that "thje complex" song
i dont think ill be uh
muting my game
like
not immediately at least
cuz that shit sounds like a banger
lime flax
Simon has made some phenomenal music for the payday series. I can't wait for the soundtrack to gtfo.
I kept the music on for both games.
grand spire
How will the VOIP work in GTFO or will it be use discord or another variation?
mint locust
Discord is always an option.
grand spire
Just curious because for someone who uses the genre a lot doing VOIP only for teammates close instead of global might make it to where people have to be cohesive more. Instead of charlie going long and can relay half way across the map
I know discord and such would bump that
quasi mesa
They have radio comms so it would be kinda weird to have too small range
prisma pendant
Would be a fun hardcore concept of just locational VOIP then.
mild ravine
if we are going to use GTFO voice chat WE NEED IT TO SOUND LIKE WE ARE ONA RADIO
I feel that will act alot in the imersion
Then the further away u are from other players the more distorted it is so players don't spread tf out so much
prisma pendant
I'm down to get a voice changing app for the radio effect while I'm farther away .
lime flax
I'm down for TFAR/ACRE (arma) style radio effect/filter.
Squad does it really well too.
fathom lotus
How will the connecting to other players work? Will it be peer-to-peer or some kind of dedicated server? I live in Australia and play with friends overseas so how well I will be able to connect with my friends will be my main concern.
lunar bay
I think so far ppt means whoever hosts is the server
Ptp
Cuz server cost a lot of money for games to maintain them, and have to be builded
fathom lotus
Ok cool thanks, I play Warframe for some time and it's ptp system makes it almost unnoticeable with connection lag when playing with my friends
I see, thanks for the info 😃
lunar bay
Well I just know that it is like when I am hosting the game, someone from the other side of the world has a higher ms/ping and more lags
But we will see how they are working on the syncing system
fathom lotus
Ok sounds great, yeah me and my friends have a good internet speed, but I can understand connecting from so far away I am bound to get between 200 and 300ms but if the syncing is good enough to mitigate it, then I'll be a very happy camper lol
lunar bay
Yea, eh about the voice chat, go for suggestion and suggest it that a radio type of voice should be heard, idk how hard that is to make, a default voice wow be fine or like a, "the greater the distance, less voice sound goes through" But I can see people using discord not to use that
So I would leave it by default voice chat
celest mural
Im excited to see how they adress it as well. I have many gaming friends overseas
lunar bay
We all are considered friends at some point :D So Yea totally agreed, we will see how that turns out
celest mural
Are we friends now 
fathom lotus
Awesome 👌
lunar bay
Maybe 
celest mural
ruby lance
co-op games usually have a lot of leeway when it comes to latency - they can allow heavy compensation and even delay enemy attacks or movement, since they're just AI and won't cry about it on a subreddit. I don't think lag will be a great issue here.
prime mirage
So what kind of gear can we be expected to find? I mean guns, obviously. But what else? Armor mods? Special tools that might open alternate paths? Things that enhance the UI?
prime mirage
Also: are we gonna get Melee weapons?
mint locust
rose basalt
yes, there are melee weapons
mint locust
this video should answer a couple of questions i think
craggy pier
so sawn-off shotgun when ? 😃
prime mirage
I’m all for futuristic mercenary stuff, but I’d also be hella down for some Dead Space style mining equipment as weapons.
willow shoal
Since ammo is limited, your melee weapon will be your primary weapon in most cases.
willow shoal
Sledge Hammers, Maces, Clubs, Baseball Bats... 😜
willow shoal
Pretty sure there are also axes of varying sizes
craggy pier
Mmm
I wonder
How are the difficulties gonna be called
And how many would there be
rose basalt
No details about difficulties yet
willow shoal
No, no magical axes like Kratos carries... sadly 😖
craggy pier
I would have some ideas for the difficulties names
willow shoal
Rookie, Veteran, Hell?
willow shoal
I dunno if there are selectable difficulties
willow shoal
Probably encroaching on #gtfo-chat territory... 🤔
craggy pier
prime mirage
So do medpacks have limited uses, one time use or infinite use?
And will there be something like an armor mechanic to reduce damage, or even multiple damage types like in Warframe?
craggy pier
Probably
willow shoal
Medpacks are one time use, so, like ammo, they’ll be limited. You don’t want to use one just because you lost a little health. You’ll want to save at least a couple for revives and critical health situations.
lunar bay
Also special weapons should be used only in specific situations like approaching a big horde or a special type of enemy :)
prime mirage
Do medkits take up their own slot or can other equipment take its place?
fast valve
lunar bay
everything has a rng,loot (locked medic/ammo crates) the map iself, the puzzles, enemy spawn (which type) how many they spawn, the code for the big blue circled door, the laptopt to get the code/locate
basically everything, + start location, exept yourself (health and dmg and ammo xD)
so there is like allways a unique level design
summer parrot
where can I preorder the game
lunar bay
u cannot :p
upper ingot
Hey! I saw in the FAQ that it’s not recommended to go solo for this game but we can still play solo on this though right? I kind of want to go into it solo once beta or the game releases to check out the game alone. I know they said they won’t have any bots because it would be too complicated but wanted to check to see if you could start the game if you are alone.
Although, it did say it’s possible to play solo so I’m safe to assume that I’m able to start the game if i’m alone in the lobby?
upper ingot
No worries!
rose basalt
Not sure if you'll be able to play solo, but the game is designed to be played with at least one more player and it won't accomodate for solo play.
So techincally you may be able to, but it most likely won't be enjoyable at all
quasi mesa
#1 tentacle dodger
upper ingot
Thanks for answering my question! Too shy to get new friends so hoping to convince my friends to try it out in the future when it comes out. In the meantime, wanted to see how the game looks and feels on my laptop and adjust any settings I need while I try to convince them to get it when it comes out. 😊
hasty mauve
Many candidates to play with here, Kevbun 🙂
craggy pier
Will there be a nda on the beta ?
coarse spire
We're not sure yet
narrow kettle
@rose basalt Unless you're doing it for the challenge
rose basalt
if it's possible at all
narrow kettle
we'll find that out soon enough
coarse spire
I hope it's not but something tells me it will be
blissful dove
@random beacon I've never heard Damage Vault before but now I'm listening to the track you linked to. It actually isn't that far off from the music in GTFO. My music just has less croaking synths and processed voice samples.
random beacon
cool
will the game have any form of dynamic music in form of when you walking around it will be some what slow music and when hords are coming it will be abit more upbeat ?
blissful dove
The music in GTFO is incredibly adaptive and goes from ambient bits with no perceivable tempo all the way up to super intense action/horror music with lots of aleatoric symphonic stuff.
random beacon
nice
clear agate
heady moat
I have no idea what any of the last bit meant but it sounds fun
thorny bobcat
Yeah I know all of those wor-
"aleatoric symphonic"
grand spire
Speaking of that, will the game be able to be beaten if someone wanted to try and solo?
prisma pendant
I want to say they said its possible but extremely difficult
I could be wrong so dont hold me to it . But they said no human bots so if you're playing solo, you will indeed be solo
mint locust
If solo will come, coop goes first priority
thorny bobcat
funnily enough otwd is a little like that too
vocal bridge
How did you get the audio to be so diverse for your game?
Diverse in the sense that it changes based on whats happening
thorny bobcat
You mean music?
vocal bridge
Yeah
thorny bobcat
Well the game can obviously tell things you might not be able to tell
(Just guessing from here on out)
It could look at the amount of nearby enemies
Whether they're awake or not
How much health and ammo you have
If any of your team members are alive
How far along the level you are
Things like that
vocal bridge
Oh I was just curious if the music would act as sort of a build up depending how many sleepers are running at you but thats cool too
I like the idea of music being sort of sporadic and unpredictable
feral rune
Will there be moments where the music is just completely stopped / dead and all you hear are your footsteps and possibly character breath? just to build some fear and suspense factor?
hexed bronze
Yeah there will be, it's not gonna have music constantly playing.
solemn notch
(Will the game have customization? player cosmetics, weapons? also will there be a progression system for levelling up your solider?
vocal bridge
if its like payday than i assume it would
solemn notch
Thats what i was thinking, that would be sick! 😄
vocal bridge
i think the way it works through what i have read from articles
is that the deeper you go down into the vaults
the harder it gets
but the better loot
so get in get out asap
and sell it
for better materials
im still not sure if you get anything from dying in the game
solemn notch
hmmm
seems reasonable
i would like to see xp for killing the creatures, so even if you die you get something at least.
vocal bridge
i hope its not a super grindy game
like
you spelunk for shit tier items
you buy shit tier items
same goes for god tier items
solemn notch
^
vocal bridge
in both ways
again
payday 2
but even then
like
what i want
or i think it has
is
you cant get get good items
if you dont get good artifacts
super simple
you have to work your way up to it of course
it would make sense
i would imagine it being impossible at lvl 1 going for "legendary" stuff
thorny bobcat
Will there be guns?
dreamy minnow
Very curious about the meta game/mission selection for this game. Has there been any news about that?
craggy pier
Nein
dreamy minnow
aw
mild ravine
When the game comes out will we be able to unlock more guns or make them?
Or just have everything from the start
celest mural
Whisper is you will have the ability to piece gun parts together to modify/upgrade to your likng.
mild ravine
so we will have everything But will need to Make our own guns? thats tthe whisper?
celest mural
Not sure about having everything from the start.
mild ravine
I def remember someone saying u cna get some things from mini games
celest mural
Maybe someone will chime in when they catch up in chat. I however must get some sleep. Its 330AM and i have to get up for work in a couple hours.
mild ravine
Now for another question cus im Bored AF Will there be radio communication in game and when ur further away from the team u cna hear them less like becomes more static
OK thanks for the info
celest mural
@mild ravine that was being discussed earlier as a suggestion.
mild ravine
ah ok
celest mural
Take some time to read back
prime mirage
Do we get grenades?
prime mirage
Do we get to duct tape shotguns together?
steel wadi
How long would it take to do 1 mission?
narrow kettle
depends on the mission
there are short ones
(20-ish minutes)
or long ones
(6-ish hours)
prime mirage
6 hours.
OH SHIT DO WE GET 4 MAN RAIDS?
rose basalt
they're called expeditions
prime mirage
I'm a huge sucker for coordinated objective based content. So raids have a natural appeal to me.
rose basalt
Well actually I got it wrong, all missions are called expeditions
Anyway, the long expeditions will have checkpoints at points around 30-40 minutes
vocal bridge
Jfc
lunar carbon
Holy shit 6 hours?
vocal bridge
Im already loving this game
Cant imagime how bad it would feel to finally get the artifact after 5 + hours to only die right after
prime mirage
I mean. They did say there were checkpoints.
clear phoenix
Hardcore mode should have no checkpoints and you need to do it in a single playthrough 😉
prime mirage
Well, L4D2 has the games short enough to bang through a match in about 20 minutes.
And even if everyone dies, you restart in the saferoom
coarse spire
6 hours is the max they'll consider making, expeditions can technically be 48 hours if they wanted to
brisk venture
1 year expiditions? 🤔
brisk venture
No checkpoints 👌
fast python
6 hours? Sounds like my kind of thing to do in one go
coarse spire
Same mang
vocal bridge
I want a lifetime expidition
coarse spire
You know what Simon just create a 500 year expedition, no checkpoints
vocal bridge
Simon can we get a game that takes 3 generations to complete and most of it is spent on the menu
coarse spire
This is the game we need but don't deserve
vocal bridge
Rippp
coarse spire
We're just bois you can ask questions to yaya
vocal bridge
Our mentors
rose basalt
we're spies sent by the government to scout the best gamers around to subject them to an experimental program to become mechanized supersoldiers just friendly people with answers to your questions not much else
vocal bridge
👀
tender thistle
Release date ? Kappa
vocal bridge
Spring
rose basalt
Spring 2019 kappa
vocal bridge
Lol when the dumb kid in 6th grade asks how to spell a word in a spelling test
vocal bridge
: ^)
tender thistle
haha
mortal anchor
Evening guys
tender thistle
Ullu
coarse spire
Evenin'
brisk venture
Hello!
tranquil fog
evening 
vocal bridge
Morning
prime mirage
Just afternoon for me.
coarse spire
Same
vocal bridge
Its morning for me
blissful dove
This is a game that will grow and evolve post release, both in terms of expeditions and weapons available - to answer @steel wadi 's question about expedition length and @mild ravine 's question about weapons.
prime mirage
What kind of music are we gonna be hearing during Expeditions?
blissful dove
@vocal bridge No it's not "if you're dead you're dead". You can always be revived by your teammates, and they have to do that to progress because all members of a crew are required to pass through many doors and puzzles.
@prime mirage The music is very sparse and ambient, but of course rhythmical elements come in as you engage the monsters. It's inspired by horror music and hybrid movie scores, all put through whatever you'd call the filter of my personal style.
prime mirage
Just thinking about it is getting me hyped. HUGE fan of your work in PD2.
clear phoenix
Just got to thinking. I understand with such a small team to even make this work would take a lot of effort but with the style of gameplay do you see a possible VR support later?
coarse spire
Vrs not likely no
willow shoal
As I recall when I played, revives cost a medpack... or was that just for extra health beyond the minimal amount the revive itself restored?
Was back in June, so I'm sure a lot has changed, anyway
coarse spire
Yeah it was prolly just an older build or misremembering
narrow kettle
afaik medpacks only restore hp
coarse spire
If you make revives cost a medpack it'd be possible to get completely stuck on a mission and force a restart
And that's really unfun imo
willow shoal
It was an older build... pretty sure Simon stated at the time, it was even a slightly older build at the time (for stability reasons)
coarse spire
Makes sense
prime mirage
Are there going to be different “classes” for the game or is it “Your loadout defines your role”?
coarse spire
Latter
narrow kettle
There won't be any classes
coarse spire
Your tools define your role
prime mirage
That’s fine. It’ll be fun to see how others approach different missions.
willow shoal
Yeah.. always being able to revive teammates would make sense, as would that revive only restoring a small amount of HP (as sort of a penalty for dying... lol). Basically, don't die!