gtfo-related-questions

[uneven kiln]

how much do you guys have to play around it in runs

[little pilot]

interact bug? kenny had issues, he found out why it happens

then didn't have issues since (tho i think we only had 2 sessions)

[uneven kiln]

2. is fixed with E Bug Fix

https://thunderstore.io/c/gtfo/p/JarheadHME/E_Bug_Fix/

(I also run this one)

[little pilot]

does it fix it for the sentry and mines cases?

[valid crescent]

thank you

[uneven kiln]

that I am not sure about, Jarhead specified it definitely fixes it for reviving people though

@jagged shore

[burnt inlet]

I had a moth moment

[jagged shore]

it should, i was talking with kenny about the bug recently and he was able to reproduce the bug with sentrys and mines, in a similar fashion to how i was able to make it happen with bots

[uneven kiln]

might need to list this one on the bug wiki

I'll specify it as Interruption Bug and Interact Bug as 2 different things that display similar symptoms

already do so with Liquid Bug and Void Bug (Galaxy Bug)

at the end of the day, just run both NoInterruptions and E Bug Fix, save your ability to interact with things normally

[burnt inlet]

<@&408548765599793173>

[civic laurel]

r6b2 secondary is the red considered a room divider

[upbeat flame]

I don’t think so? It doesn’t look like it splits the room into zone c and d?

[civic laurel]

enemies were spawning in there

[upbeat flame]

But I also don’t understand how room dividers work so I could be wrong

[civic laurel]

which wiped us

and since it's one room away from the term

the only explanation I see is that it's a room divider

[keen seal]

uplinks spawn the waves in the same zone as you instead of the normal 2 rooms away

[civic laurel]

ah!

[keen seal]

and since this one is so small they spawn right there

[mystic rock]

this uplink*

uplink rules and reactor rules are common among their objective type but not used every time

[keen seal]

is there an uplink that spawns enemies outside the zone where the zone isn't just one room?

[ocean spindle]

this and aboout every other uplink

that is not corrupted

corrupteds are p much within one zone rooms always except for like r7c3

[mystic rock]

not thinking too far but r6d2

[keen seal]

that's a pne room zone no?

[mystic rock]

they spawn outside

perhaps I'm not reading this chat enough and not understanding the ocnversation

kind of busy on something else

[keen seal]

guh

[mystic rock]

oh I read the message now

[ocean spindle]

corrupted

[mystic rock]

#gtfo-related-questions message

🔫

I got a banger

R6CX

https://tenor.com/view/cat-nuclear-fission-explode-meow-shockwave-gif-8225436751132677174

wait I forgot the question

too busy with other stuff xd

gotta stop juggling

[valid crescent]

Tips on beating R1C1?

Outside of just rationing supplies

[livid stone]

play with 3 others i guess

[mystic rock]

sniper sentry bio

hel gun/ hel rifle

burst cannon

[hoary mason]

Get decent weapons, make sure to upkeep the resources always up and not wait until they're 0/0 in guns and in tool, move defense up as reactor waves progress and your resources dry up in usual spot - closer to the extract so you don't have to hunt for resources in downtimes.

[ocean spindle]

.t r1c1

[uneven gulch]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[hoary mason]

Anything else is a skill issue

[ocean spindle]

smh u guys forgor

[mystic rock]

no I just wanted to give them a personalized message

fuck normalizing automated replies

[ocean spindle]

:[

[hoary mason]

.t bucket

[uneven gulch]

||This is my bucket. There are many like it, but this one is mine.||
||My bucket is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.||
||My bucket, without me, is useless. Without my bucket, I am useless. I must use my bucket true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will …||
||My bucket and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit….||
||My bucket is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my bucket clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will ….||
||Before God, I swear this creed. My bucket and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.||
||So be it, until victory and there is no enemy, but peace!!||

||https://i.imgur.com/LX0YKiG.png||

[ocean spindle]

for one time i do it

and i get scolded

[mystic rock]

technically you didn't get scolded by anyone

I said fuck you to the mod contact

[hoary mason]

Lmao

[ocean spindle]

oh ok

:3

[valid crescent]

Would you say the sniper is a good heavy weapon for it?

Mostly for someone designed to run back and forth to the terminal and stuff for the big guys

[mystic rock]

sure if you can use it

[ocean spindle]

its p good for hybrids

[mystic rock]

burst cannon is just simpler for this purpose

[timber shoal]

sniper's pretty good as long as you're hitting your headshots

[civic wave]

Tool loadout: biotracker + 3 sentries (combination of burst + sniper)
hold the waves where you have resources
putting the code in early does not offer any benefit - wait until the last few seconds to give yourself more time to clean up the wave and prepare for the next one

there you go, crash course r1c1

[timber shoal]

and as long as your teammates arent shooting off giants' heads before you can

[hoary mason]

Sniper is a wrong pick for this game at all.

[timber shoal]

not true

sniper's a solid weapon

[civic wave]

cope

[hoary mason]

Besides like r6d1 and derivatives

[mystic rock]

yeah no sadly sniper cannot be just thrown out

[timber shoal]

e2 duo 🤤

[mystic rock]

sniper has it's use cases

[hoary mason]

I mean if it was in it's old state then it doesn't rly matter

[timber shoal]

and even into regular levels its not bad

[mystic rock]

more than just kraken

[valid crescent]

Neato, ty all

[timber shoal]

just like

not charger heavy levels generally

[valid crescent]

Sorry if I didnt respond much, just reading all of it n stuff plus busy

[hoary mason]

Hybrids and giant killer but like, scatter exists.

[valid crescent]

Ya'll find it easier to stealth hard rooms or just fire a round and make them all come to you via a choke point?

[timber shoal]

scatter exists so everything else is useless

[mystic rock]

scatter scatter scatter

it's always scatter

[hoary mason]

Yes indeed

[mystic rock]

no long range alternative

just scatter

[hoary mason]

:3

[mystic rock]

it's always sawed off too

meta loadout is just sawed off scatter guys

[hoary mason]

Cause long range alternative got shafted for some unexplained reason

That's just it

[mystic rock]

dtr literally insanely ammo efficient

hel revo good for holding

[timber shoal]

carbine is good

[mystic rock]

don't think that's a fair point to say that they got shafted

[timber shoal]

esp on client

since you can one burst to head

[hoary mason]

I was only talking about scatter vs sniper

For alternative topic

[mystic rock]

sniper was never good when compared to scatter ever

because of the client netcode

as a fast boss kill of course you have scatter

but holding a scan you're not gonna get out to scatter the guy

even shotgun is just better than old sniper as a boss kill

[hoary mason]

Even excluding netcode

[valid crescent]

If more explosive weapons existed in gtfo. What would you advocate adding?

Would a simple grenade item that you can cook the fuse with. Detonates after 2.8 seconds. Think of em as throwable mines with a fuse

A double barrel grenade launcher heavy weapon

Or a explosive hammer, Foregoing all silent routes For fun

[mystic rock]

and we're back on the theoreticals

[civic wave]

the mythical grenade launcher

[mystic rock]

just go play inferno or fatal experiment man

[civic wave]

lockout had a grenade launcher didn't it

[hoary mason]

Yes it had

[mystic rock]

yeah but downpatching

[timber shoal]

more like play drg

[hoary mason]

Legendary triple TK from our GL player on L2 F1 was unforgettable

[mystic rock]

engi's GL is only good with rj250 and ignition

[valid crescent]

But I dont wanna play em cause I dont have money

[mystic rock]

ITS A MOD

ITS FREE

[hoary mason]

Hyper propellant is fun

[valid crescent]

Hyper propellant was so goated

[mystic rock]

fun and good aren't the same here

[timber shoal]

i mean unless you're playing modded you can run p much whatever you want

[valid crescent]

Personally i like the rocket jump overclock

[mystic rock]

exactly

I was going to say that

[civic wave]

maybe we shouldn't torture a newer player with gtfo modded rundowns

[mystic rock]

but I had to ctrl a del everything to tell this guy that this shit is free

[timber shoal]

understandable

[mystic rock]

I miss modded drg

was good

[timber shoal]

drg's a lot of fun

[hoary mason]

It is good enough for soloing every mission type on 5.5 diff with all buffs enabled

Or whatever it's called

[mystic rock]

all negative mutators ?

[hoary mason]

Yes

[timber shoal]

haz 5 plus with 2.2.2.2

is what i think they mean

[mystic rock]

all negative mutators so ass

[hoary mason]

Yes

[timber shoal]

it really is

i only run extra enemies

[mystic rock]

Low Oxygen Period

[timber shoal]

i misunderstood

[hoary mason]

Turret whip with double turrets for all trash, hyper propellant for high prio targets

I need to launch drg to look up build cause I came up with it like a long time ago

[mystic rock]

just run turret EM

free win

[hoary mason]

I have that as an alternative build as well

I like turret whip more tho

[mystic rock]

Engi is just the worst class anyway

[hoary mason]

Idk

For me gunner is worst

Engi -> driller -> scout -> gunner

[mystic rock]

unlucky cause gunner is just the best for high difficulties

gunner -> driller -> scout -> engi

even worth just bringing double gunner over an engi

[valid crescent]

Gunner I fell is the "Grunt" class

Enough health or shielding to keep a man alive.

Enough firepower to kill almost anything in sight

And good for someone who has no idea what they're doing outside the main objective and no frills such as techs or mechanics yet.

But yeahhhhh hes mid

[hoary mason]

Too dumb dumb to come up with something interesting for gunner

[valid crescent]

But he absolutely can be great when someone knows how to aim

And not immediately rush in cause you got a big gun

[mystic rock]

I love ranking classes based on how much they can kill instead of how good they can handle a wave and their team

the usual "I play engi and I have the most kills" are the best ones

[hoary mason]

Mix of both

[mystic rock]

scout does literally nothing but loot goblin and debuff

[timber shoal]

pheromone grenades 😍

[hoary mason]

Ew

[timber shoal]

and ifgs

and cryos

and the boomerangs are silly too

[mystic rock]

scout is just the static enemy killer

[civic wave]

crtl a
crtl c
backspace

type angry message
crtl v back into regular being

[mystic rock]

cryo bolt just too good

[timber shoal]

scout's crossbow is so much fun

[hoary mason]

I usually run my cb with fire and electric bolts

[mystic rock]

I miss gtfo related questions

[valid crescent]

Comically squat bullet magnet with wings

[timber shoal]

have you ever done r6d1 solo

theres a gtfo related question for you

[mystic rock]

yeah currently at r7b2

but like just haven't touched in so long

[valid crescent]

I did rundown 1a1 solo cause I was new.

I came out of there limping with 20 hp and 5 bullets left

[timber shoal]

what did you do for the class 6

in 6d1

[mystic rock]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[hoary mason]

Surprisingly B1 is easier than A1 in R1

[mystic rock]

might've kited cause I don't really care

[timber shoal]

understandable

the sustains are so slow

[valid crescent]

I mostly got that low because of the ranged enemies

[mystic rock]

30 minute solo, didn't touch reactor, just kited with shooters

[timber shoal]

valid ngl

[mystic rock]

I managed to do reactor skip without kiting like twice solo before but solo kraken on max infect without sniper is just unmanageable on phase 2

[timber shoal]

what'd you run for the non-kiting attempts

burst cannon?

[mystic rock]

hcal

[timber shoal]

i see

[mystic rock]

need the close dps

and it's just mega gamble on spawn orientations

cause second scan being so close to one of the spawns

[timber shoal]

they spawn inside of the room yeah?

[mystic rock]

if I just get that one it's just a reset

ye

I thought of doing attempts with mine deployer on their spawn point but I never did

[timber shoal]

that would be really funny actually

does the delay between the waves even make it worth it

[valid crescent]

If you had to date a rundown, which one would you date?

[timber shoal]

r6 personally

[mystic rock]

it's 3 spawns every wave

so no not really

[timber shoal]

whimsical technique though

[mystic rock]

also custom UI mod is back in progress

been tackling the config file, halfway through it, gonna see how much I can make it live edit cause there's so much to make it work

[timber shoal]

what all does it change?

or is it like a more customization sort of deal

[mystic rock]

allows full customization of the hud colors and positions

and with special features

compatible with precise UI

gonna make it be able to change some archive stuff too

and something else I forgot guh

[valid crescent]

You feel like gtfo could use an April fools update where all the enemies just get Googley eyes?

[timber shoal]

hype

[valid crescent]

Some bastard went down to every run down and stuck em onto every monster

[wispy osprey]

anyone know if hel pistol counts for controlled response achievement?

[timber shoal]

yep :3

[frail heart]

yes it is a pistol

[wispy osprey]

awesome

assumed it did but wasnt sure

thanks

[frail heart]

allg

[timber shoal]

all

[frail heart]

one of the bad ones

https://tenor.com/view/tung-tung-tung-tung-sahur-tung-tung-sahur-tung-tung-tung-sahur-brainrot-baseball-gif-13999381090646842001

[raven copper]

this is true

[cedar belfry]

Any tips for reactor in r4e1?

[silent mason]

heya - just bought the game. from above messages, i assume mods (thunderstore) are allowed in multiplayer? any recommended ones for a new player, other than NoInterruptions?

[frail heart]

if you arent already, do a 2-2 split. the code hunters shouldnt feel too much pressure because defenders have so many resources. when you pull blood door, sit in B and kill all the enemies from there

if you arent confident with killing them in front of the door

[fathom ice]

correct, but when you're joining a lobby it'd be nice to make clear ur running mods and asking peeps if they're okay with it

[mystic rock]

just don't use gameplay altering mods

[silent mason]

ok, i'll mainly run with friends so hopefully be on the same page.

[mystic rock]

nah

you can play with mods here nobody will mind

just don't use god mode or balancing mods

[silent mason]

no sure, thinking more quality of life ones

any recommendations?

or is vanilla fine

[mystic rock]

personally hate playing vanilla without zoomfovscaling, flickshotfix, killindicatorfix and mushsight

mushsight is more if you're not playing on max textures

[fathom ice]

you could get archive

[mystic rock]

zoomfovscaling and flickshotfix are to make the shooting feel more in line with how shooters work cause the game lacks

[fathom ice]

which is The Archive + Essentials + RichPressence

[mystic rock]

and killindicatorfix because you don't get kill markers as client and I don't like it

[fathom ice]

it has a lot of built in functions in it so

u can play around

[silent mason]

ok, thanks! what a nice community discord (compared to arc raiders 😂)

[mystic rock]

archive has a ton of features if you want to mess around with it

[frail heart]

what does flickshotfix do

[mystic rock]

makes the game check where you're aiming every frame it can rather than capped

30

[frail heart]

why the fuck

is it implemented like that

[mystic rock]

no clue man

[frail heart]

we are tweaking

[mystic rock]

the 5 pierce max is also just a thing that they did

the code just caps it at 5 on purpose

literally the loop cancels on 5

[frail heart]

maybe the layoffs were so they can hire better devs

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-i-guess-bro-bro-i-guess-ok-man-gif-6278747235421617446

[mystic rock]

yeah looking at the code, can really tell some parts were coded by different people

some of it is very much well applicated math and others is just template code pasted

[frail heart]

AI gen code without the AI

[cedar belfry]

I tried to go solo hunting codes and 3 people defend but it didnt worked out xD Thanks for the advice tho, maybe we'll beat it now xD

[mystic rock]

yeah that's a problem if 3 hold can't even hold excluding ammo constraints

[flat river]

any way to fix lobby when host got disconnected and nobody got host rights? so they can walk etc, but can't interract with anything

I know that in such cases you should load somewhere earlier and someone become host

but it didn't happen

[past mesa]

Maybe someone should make a mod to force take a snap shot so people can reload

[normal granite]

Sometimes host migration fails and people get stuck in a dead lobby

Unfortunate, but it happens from time to time

Not too common however

[livid stone]

restart game

[civic laurel]

can you log off with a checkpoint

[timber shoal]

if you leave a mission you cannot pick up where you left off

[civic laurel]

fucked

[flat river]

yeah, had to do this.

we were almost at the end of R6D4 and I, as host, got BSOD and lobby fucked up

[mystic rock]

feel like dimension teleport levels struggle a lot with getting a client to confirm that they are an eligible migration

[normal granite]

i feel like this game just struggles to exist in general

[timber shoal]

props to the devs for making it playable though

with that much spaghetti code id be afraid it would be completely nonfunctional

[raven copper]

they jus have a bunch of kerbals running the code

https://tenor.com/view/jeb-ksp-kerbal-space-program-jebadiah-kerman-kerman-gif-23379355

[normal granite]

after working with JUST the datablocks, i have gotten a deeper understanding and even more want to ask how the fuck this game works

[little pilot]

wat?

[normal granite]

game sucks

[little pilot]

the datablocks are designed quite well wdym

[normal granite]

maybe im just dumb

[mystic rock]

Datablocks are a simple way to store and modify values

It's a very good design, the only wrong thing about the datablocks are spelling mistakes and pointless values

There are some quirky values too but nothing that really impacts gameplay

Probably were just testing compatibility with code like scatter and choke being burst weapons

[little pilot]

there's a bit of questionable decision choices when it comes to wardenobjectiveevents system being insanely limited in datablocks

and some weird design choices when it comes to the RNG systems (enemy spawns mainly and 1 fuckup with build seed being dependant on session seed in e2, r7d2 which causes those weird level generations)

[foggy blade]

Question: Why the Arbalist Machinegun considered to be a bad machinegun?

[tardy ingot]

Tbf neither of the 2 machine guns are great

The arbalist suffers from very subpar damage output (shooting quite slowly) while not having the dmg per shot to balance it out

Charge up of that length isnt very good for the weapon. On one side you wanna stay shooting but then you are gonna lose out on efficiency and on the other side stopping inbetween makes the gun less reactive and bad in dealing with small spam

[dapper kestrel]

its reload is also pretty slow, even with a reload cancel

[foggy blade]

So in what situation does the MG shines then, or should just avoid at all cost?

[dapper kestrel]

you can still clear everything with them, they just arent great compared to other specials at any role they try to fulfill

[vagrant wasp]

every weapon can be played to beat the game really, just some are better than others.

[safe cradle]

The Arbalist probably never shines

Veruta maybe on wave clearing smalls if you're a monster at getting most value out of it, but with that premise you'd perhaps fare better with any other wave clearing options

HEL Gun onetaps normals at hs, pens, has good range and doesn't take aeons to reload, for example

[foggy blade]

Feels like MG is not even good at their own niche, and I like using MG

[safe cradle]

Dont let that stop you

[foggy blade]

But the recoil is so ass, unless I know how the recoil pattern works, I ended up having to stop firing so I can reset the recoil

[safe cradle]

I'm pretty sure you dont need a huge burst to kill a striker provided you land your shots at the head

And you can always go to a wall on, say, R1C1, and get a feel of the pattern

This aint Apex, however, you arent supposed to full auto stuff like it's R301

[foggy blade]

I'll try that

[tardy ingot]

Yup

Combat shotgun (for a gun in the special slot that works in the same niche) does the same but way better and more

[foggy blade]

I was thinking about the spitfire

[safe cradle]

Yeah CS is insane

[austere oyster]

Okay but the machine guns go guggida guggida and it makes my brain happy

[foggy blade]

I know, I always tell the newbies to equip the CS as their first gun to try

[foggy blade]

Someone understands me

[foggy blade]

My concern is mostly about switching targets without having to miss alot of shots

[safe cradle]

watch Fireblade's GTFO videos on youtube, he uses Veruta a lot and does exceptionally well with it

[foggy blade]

damn thing likes to wobble alot

[foggy blade]

I think I found one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c96FwGSv4M

[frail heart]

ar + veruta is a tuff combo

[keen seal]

I need more bullets

[verbal zinc]

Haters gonna hate

[cedar heath]

How can we skip the second nightmare alarm in r8e2 during reactor startup?

[dreamy socket]

Either by activating before reactor ends
Or activating and going to other dimension

[cedar heath]

last time I insert the first code then start the nm alarm, it didn't work

wonder if I've done something wrong

[dreamy socket]

The reactor has to end
I recommend pull nm6 then plug final code if you dont wanna do other dimension

[timber shoal]

alarm start > turn off reactor or alarm start > trap scan

i believe anyways

[burnt inlet]

Indeed indeed

[tacit cedar]

also as soon as you open the door to code 1 you have 3 minutes to input the code or the trap scan will disappear

[ebon light]

you can also just do nightmare 6 during wave 1 xd

[fathom ice]

BUT scary

[prime musk]

in a quad code 1 isn't even tight with that (not any tighter than usual, when you want to keep trap scan)

[fathom ice]

youre ALIVE

[median glacier]

Hey im trying to get my friend into the game and last he's played it was like R3, the one thing he said he had problems with was that the sleepers would move at like a lower frame rate than the rest of the game was that ever addressed/fixed?
he said it was like stop motion enemies

[final terrace]

that shouldnt be the case unless your connection to the host is really bad

in which case it isn't really the game's fault

[median glacier]

oh THAT was what was causing it? that makes alot of sense now cause he was connecting to me and i used to play on wifi it was like 4 years ago

[civic wave]

it can be either poor connection or game lag

if host is on 10fps stuff will be choppy

[uneven kiln]

to have the best possible experience on top of ping related issues, the person with the best CPU should host

[flat river]

me and friends had to buy server and connect to it using WireGuard to get rid of connection issues between us lol

hate P2P games

so playing this game costs us extra 10$ per month

[ripe hamlet]

all that to play gtfo

the dedication is wild

[round sentinel]

The constant alarm rundown has me and my group getting toasted

Any tips?

[upbeat flame]

which one, r4?

or you mean r2c2

[round sentinel]

Possibly I think it's the first one that you actually encounter.

[upbeat flame]

name of the game is to play fast, try to learn active stealth and meleeing with swiftness and precision

a knife would usually help here

[normal granite]

it can also be caused by low framerate on the person hosting

[south phoenix]

Question, do giants get aggro if a sneak kill a mob besides them? Happened to me and my friends once so im not sure if its 100% aggro for sneak kill …

[normal granite]

depends how close the enemy is to them

every enemy can be woken up if you kill something close enough to it

[south phoenix]

Thanks

Last question

Do they have larger radius of alertness or just the same for small ones?

[normal granite]

same radius

but all enemies can be woken up by a mechanic called long range aggro

if an enemy is in the search state, they have a 50% chance to wake up if you kill something in their line of sight

[south phoenix]

Awesome

[normal granite]

so try to check surroundings and make sure other enemies arent searching before you kill

[south phoenix]

Me and my friends’ first fatal mistake was going rambo once a mob wakes up

[normal granite]

haha yeah it happens

what level are yall up to?

[south phoenix]

Got stucked in r1b1 for 2 days because of wrong strat

Im in last section in rundown 1

Thanks to prof scaler

I can manage to finish runs with 2 players and bots

[normal granite]

nice, playing the same way i did originally

i did the entire game with just me, my friend, and 2 bots

[south phoenix]

I read that finding random isnt that good

But in my exp its really good

[normal granite]

it varies a lot

[tardy ingot]

Ribbit wat

[raven copper]

w eva

[south phoenix]

I managed to finish r1c1 before b1

[normal granite]

am i mistaken?

[tardy ingot]

ye

[normal granite]

by how much

[tardy ingot]

^

[normal granite]

feels like 50% tbf

[south phoenix]

So thats why every cracked randos i match with runs around with a knife

Lmao

[frail heart]

to me it feels like 30%, 42.5%, 75% and 100%

[tardy ingot]

nah knife wake up% being lower doesnt rly matter

if you are slow stealthing there rly should never be long range aggro happening and if you go fast you are likely walking from enemy to enemy anyway

[normal granite]

knife is also just really fun

running around and shanking everything, then dying when you turn a corner and there is a giant

[south phoenix]

Yeah they hit like a btch

[tardy ingot]

knife is generally the 2nd best melee, having an actual niche

[normal granite]

40% for melee, 24% for tongue

[south phoenix]

1st is hammer?

[normal granite]

yup

[south phoenix]

i use spear

[normal granite]

spear is bait
bat just exists

spear is fine for casual play

dont worry

[south phoenix]

[frail heart]

bat exists for brazil skip

[ebon light]

AND 3d1

[tardy ingot]

bat exists for when you dont wanna charge to break smashlocks

[ebon light]

muahahahaha

[frail heart]

evil ahh

[timber shoal]

bat for when you wanna play like a girlypop

[raven copper]

lowkey

bat swing is so girlypop

[wraith fox]

Is there any suggestion on levels for practicing stealth killing scout for solo?
Normal scout I mean.

[raven copper]

r2e1 has a scout immediately

[wraith fox]

I see, thanks

[raven copper]

either in spawn or the big door

[flat river]

long range touching?

so if you touch enemy, someone on long range will change state?

[dreamy socket]

Its from how far you can touch your friends /s

[frail heart]

If an enemy is in long range distance and is glowing, if you wake and enemy by say walking into it, it will 100% of the time trigger long range aggro

[flat river]

but touching is silent...

I understand that enemy you touched wakens up, but why long range agro lol

[ebon light]

cuz its a great mechanic

[keen seal]

honestly pretty useful

[frail heart]

its very useful

[peak geode]

Is the Shotgun Turret ever worthwhile? It feels so sad to not find a good use for a part of the in-game content

[austere oyster]

Am I insane or is R2E1 like the second hardest E-tier in the game

[tardy ingot]

4th

maybe 5th

[austere oyster]

Okay so I am insane

That error alarm at the end though just feels like it's the worst

[flat river]

it is black hole for resources.

all sentries have issue that they shoot in dead bodies, shotgun one does it more often and under bio even twice.

apart from this it is "fine" with proper positioning. but this flaw is too impactful most of the time, so don't use it.

[tardy ingot]

Burst sentry actually is able to snap mid burst between targets

[frail heart]

its very much a "all the hard stuff is at the end" kind of thing

so it sucks a lot more when you are 40 minutes into a run and die

But, i think that r2e1 is the easiest e tier

[flat river]

they had to put checkpoint right before error alarm

and it would be so much better

[frail heart]

i like that e tiers dont have checkpoints personally

but i think the bigger thing is the level could have just been designed a bit better

[frail heart]

i also just hate checkpoints in general

[flat river]

I also hated that you play so long just to die at the end right after enabling surge, basically all what you need there is practice, to get understanding what to do and learn how to do it quickly

[flat river]

love them, considering game like to throw random hard shit on you and without knowing about it you often die

and just ruin run not because you are bad, but because you didn't know

yesterday did R6D4, checkpoint was bliss, never would thought that error alarm is fucking surge alarm or what it was considering amount of enemies

so after we knew what awaits we prepared more properly and beat it

and didn't have to play from beginning

[frail heart]

I think having trial and error is a good thing

Checkpoints allow brute forcing parts of a level which i think is eh

My main gripe with them though is how buggy they are

[flat river]

what i noticed with them:

1. you can loot closed boxes that you opened before;
2. it doesn't reset item positions;
3. it doesn't reset reactor codes.

in this perspective it is bad, yeah

[austere oyster]

Checkpoints also just peer pressure you into playing the level for probably longer than is comfortable

[peak geode]

Tbh, my group usually treats the first run of a new level as a "scouting run"

We load up with generic kits and just play to explore

Thank you for the Shotgun Turret info btw !

I wish we could've gotten some last fixes to some of the in-game items B4 devs switched to Den

2 pointless pistols is sad

And that Special Rifle that aims for the moon 😭

[tardy ingot]

Huh?

[tardy ingot]

O.o?

[frail heart]

I hope that the time they are taking with DoW is well worth it

[peak geode]

Aren't the first 2 pistols in the Primary slot bad?

[frail heart]

I liked what I played at the studio, just hoping the end product is well done lol

[peak geode]

It's the one after the Heavy Assault IIRC

[tardy ingot]

The standard pistol is pretty decent (B tier ish)

Burst pistol is somewhat bad though

[tardy ingot]

That doesnt tell me all too much rn xD

[peak geode]

I'll look it up!

[tardy ingot]

Like there is pretty awful weapons (looking at say the Bullpup and Assault Rifle) but as a whole the game can be beaten with anything

Sadly pre R8 we actually had better balance for a few patches

[peak geode]

Also, damn, Eva. Since the last time we spoken you've gotten big on YT(for GTFO)!

Congrats!

[peak geode]

The bullpup looks so sick but the reload kills me more often than not

[civic wave]

you will slot sawed off scattergun and you will be happy

[peak geode]

It's the Short Rifle

Drekker CLR

[tardy ingot]

God its been so long since I actually did lots of video-ing

Recently been a lot more into grinding competetive pokemon

[civic wave]

ah, the special slot which is a pistol with 2x mag 0.5x stagger...

[peak geode]

Fair, considering this game is no longer getting any content

[frail heart]

dont even stream anymore 😔

[smoky zodiac]

Do you guys know which map is easier to do a solo pistol run?

[raven copper]

r1b1

[timber shoal]

r1b1 is generally considered the easiest

[prime ore]

R1B1, Also nice lil guy you got there

[raven copper]

hel auto piss an highcal my beloved

[timber shoal]

machine pistol x hical 🤤

[raven copper]

im fancy so I use the rich man's machine pistol sry

https://tenor.com/view/jeb-ksp-kerbal-space-program-jebadiah-kerman-kerman-gif-23379355

[timber shoal]

i like machine pistol more

[raven copper]

ya an you like diddy chips dont ya

[prime ore]

What would be like the most boring way to do that achievement

Pistol and revolver?

[timber shoal]

revo is fun

pistol’s not bad

[raven copper]

revo is super fun

all the pistols are generally fun ngl

[timber shoal]

the “worst” would prolly be burst pistol x revo since you get no giant kill

but still useable

[prime ore]

Yeah in specialty tier tho there is only 2 pistols and I'd say both are fun

[burnt inlet]

do you even need giant kill if you have shotgun sentry?

[prime ore]

Which one mogs the other one

[timber shoal]

truth nuke!!!

[smoky zodiac]

I've been running revolver and high cal despite my bad aim

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[smoky zodiac]

but i'll give autopistol a try

[burnt inlet]

shotgun sentry is so so so op in this game

[raven copper]

hel auto piss, hel revo, revo, highcal are all good for almost every lvl

[burnt inlet]

its like by far the best sentry

doesnt miss a shot

doesnt aim for heads only

doesnt fire too quickly or too slowly

its just perfect

[timber shoal]

“doesnt fire too quickly”

ok diddyfoid

[prime ore]

Basically any pistol except the basic one and the burst dogshit

[burnt inlet]

i beat e2 with shotgun sentry ok

[raven copper]

you must love diddychips

[burnt inlet]

dont wanna hear it

[burnt inlet]

YES !!!!!

ok my bad team im going to bed

[prime ore]

Tf are Diddy chips how did we get here

[burnt inlet]

sorry for the misinfo

[timber shoal]

go to sleep ander dingus

[raven copper]

oh shittings

[burnt inlet]

i have a presentation worth 30% of my grade tmrw

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/dunce-gif-3886932394888350618

[timber shoal]

did you prep?

[burnt inlet]

My (written) manuscript is like

A fifth of what it should be

But i just got it in my head like that

[raven copper]

you're diddycooked

[timber shoal]

you are not real vro

[burnt inlet]

Team

You wouldnt understand

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/kerbal-ksp-mun-fake-fall-gif-17482934

[timber shoal]

listen

[burnt inlet]

No

You listen

[raven copper]

ooooooooo

[burnt inlet]

I got it all figured out in my head

[timber shoal]

its highly unlikely that you know how prepared i am

[upbeat flame]

Nah lowkey I get it moth

[burnt inlet]

Ok wait sorry im being toxic

[upbeat flame]

I be doing that exact same thing, just gotta master the art of bullshittin

[burnt inlet]

Im not even bullshitting

Used to

But i got a rep to uphold due to my previous presentation

So now I been overthinking it not getting enough sleep

But that means I also have it prepped how it needs to be

[tacit cedar]

just present first before anyone else can raise the bar

[burnt inlet]

No like you dont understand

Teacher CHOSE the like

Order

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-there-lobotomy-corporation-eyes-lob-corp-project-moon-mimicry-gif-17129130750775671218

[burnt inlet]

And IM FIRST

And my irls all are too

Like

Anywyas

I wanted to be second

But this is fine ig

[tacit cedar]

nah second sucks

last time I went 2nd the 1st presentation blew it out of the water

[burnt inlet]

No cuz like everyone either knows the bar is high and you got some inspiration or the bar is low and you can jork it a lil

[burnt inlet]

Last time I went 2nd I blew it out of the water

[tacit cedar]

yeah ur just gambling

[burnt inlet]

Roll the slot machines

[stiff hearth]

What does woods says when there's a scout nearby? Iirc, is it "Scout! Don't touch the feelers."? It's to an art.

[fathom ice]

I wanna say when you're in the same room with it and it's pinged

[ocean spindle]

[[Woods]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Woods

[ocean spindle]

cmon wiki u can do it

[timber shoal]

me when i want to know about forests

[ocean spindle]

"Shh, Scout, dodge those feelers, or this place would be swarming in no time"
"Hey, Scout, watch out for the feelers, this place would get crowded, fast"
"Scout, don’t, touch, the feelers, it’ll call for reinforcements, we don’t want that"
"Scout, stay clear of the feelers, we don't need to draw attention to ourselves"

[ocean spindle]

:b

[stiff hearth]

Thx u all

[upbeat flame]

I wish more special enemies had more unique voice lines when seen by the lads

Like “watch yourselves, big ugly tank, surround it.”

[timber shoal]

hit em with a r4c1 intercepted comms for the tank

[upbeat flame]

Yeah exactly like

[raven copper]

ya I have the wr for that lvl 🥱

[tacit cedar]

no biggie though

[upbeat flame]

Not to brag but I cleared that lvl

With secondary as well

[raven copper]

not to brag but I dropped into it once

[fathom ice]

i just read what i replied with

i really should go to bed

[civic wave]

you should, before i get 4 noxious fumes in the first 6 floors (or however many floors) again to torture you

[upbeat flame]

Optimal number of nox fumes

[raven copper]

like farts mmmmmmmm

mb

[civic wave]

it was

[raven copper]

ill take my leave

[civic wave]

floor 5

floor is 1 NEOW

[upbeat flame]

Yeah we sending you to hell

Personally, I will oversee your journey

[upbeat flame]

LMaO game really wanted you to have that noxious aura

[civic wave]

tbf i knew it wasn't a good idea

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/kerbal-ksp-mun-fake-fall-gif-17482934

[civic wave]

but i'm fed up

of sky clicking nonsense every time

so i wanted to get in on the fun

[upbeat flame]

Doesn’t matter if its a good idea you just need to commit to the bit

[civic wave]

3 fights - 2x fumes, bouncing flask
1 shop - 1x fumes, dolly's mirror to duplicate fumes

[upbeat flame]

How does sky play LMAO

[fathom ice]

they hate me it's okay 😔

[civic wave]

i look at sky's deck every run and i never know what happened to get to this point

[upbeat flame]

Absolutely zero thought process huh

[fathom ice]

sometimes I get too much setup into everything and now I'm not focused into anything

and also I just play more raw damage cards than defends

[upbeat flame]

We should run it down some point I need more people to play with

[civic wave]

you free rn?

[upbeat flame]

Yeah

[civic wave]

do you wanna?

[upbeat flame]

Sure

[civic wave]

where do we meet

[upbeat flame]

flyer?

[civic wave]

works for me

[frail heart]

not bad kid

[dapper kestrel]

Fumes in the bag, and then you just play block the spire

[raven copper]

maybe one day ill be like you

[frail heart]

heh, maybe one day you can hang with the big dogs 😼

[raven copper]

that made me want to commit

[tacit cedar]

still got a long way to go ol buckaroo

[raven copper]

w ander dingus

[uneven kiln]

I dropped into R6CX and got softlocked

[raven copper]

MMMMMMM

ts tuff

[topaz anvil]

nah it diorite

[frail heart]

this has to be related to crying obsidian

[smoky zodiac]

damn, autopistol sucks 💔

[uneven kiln]

hel autopistol?

[smoky zodiac]

yep

[ocean spindle]

WHYYYYY

qwq

[ocean spindle]

autopiss my beloved 💔

[raven copper]

auto piss staggers enemies thats what its meant to do

jus in case you wondered y it wasnt really blowing things up

[lofty nimbus]

is there a command to list all of the resources (including ones in lockers)

[raven copper]

yes in zones

list e_ the zone then u

list e_49 u

like that

[calm pulsar]

why

why would you need a command that excludes resources from lockers?

[raven copper]

they said includes?

[lofty nimbus]

thanks

[frail heart]

im also confused

you only find resources in lockers?

[lofty nimbus]

I'm going to be entirely honest I dont know exactly what I mean I'm lwky tired as hell rn

[frail heart]

did you purposefully misspell copenhagen

[lofty nimbus]

no it was on purpose

[frail heart]

ah

er du fra danmark?

[lofty nimbus]

naw I'm from america

[frail heart]

damn 😭

[lofty nimbus]

I just got it from a denmark subway surfers event like 2 years ago

[frail heart]

LOL

[raven copper]

figured as much so I jus didnt ask xd

but yes thats how you list rez in zones

[lofty nimbus]

thanks

[calm pulsar]

includes implies there's one that excludes

[raven copper]

oo thats what you meant

im working off 4hrs sleep mb

[calm pulsar]

yeah you would

https://tenor.com/view/gyatt-fnaf-rizz-ohio-bonnie-how-big-was-the-gyatt-gif-12494328432119175150

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/kerbal-ksp-mun-fake-fall-gif-17482934

[shut ledge]

hey i wanna buy the game but idk if its worth it and if there will be people to play with and kinda teach me the game a bit

[livid stone]

yes

[shut ledge]

noice

[ocean spindle]

games worth if ur williing to put commitment to it cuz theres a lot to learn and a lot to know

lots of lil details and observations n stuff

[pine nest]

Is there any easy way to repeat this bug in a real game or using the CConsole to see how this bug actually works?

[grizzled patrol]

Iirc it Happens only If Something really Bad Happens within the Game logic

Possibly because of the Checkpoints, but cant say that for sure

[ocean spindle]

no cuz it happens a lot on r7d1 before any

with the ov scoutts

[grizzled patrol]

Hmm

[upbeat flame]

Sorta related but is it possible for ovl scouts to not spawn in 7d1?

Cuz the last time I pubbed it they just weren’t there

[timber shoal]

it’s a random number of scouts between 0 and 5 i think

[upbeat flame]

Oh weird

[timber shoal]

so they can just be not there if i’m understanding correctly

[upbeat flame]

I thought it was always just two

[grizzled patrol]

R3A3 Scout room Always makes me Feel Like im going crazy

[timber shoal]

is that one even like documented in the wiki

[grizzled patrol]

Not guaranteed spawns is normal i think

Very Mission dependant

[minor fractal]

I don't think it's known how this works

So who knows

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/kerbal-ksp-mun-fake-fall-gif-17482934

[minor fractal]

Like, if there were recreation steps it wouldn't be poorly understood

[upbeat flame]

Is that when you code hunt for wave 4?

[grizzled patrol]

Second Zone on the left yes

[upbeat flame]

Cuz yeah the one time I was bum rushing it in solo I ran straight into a scout and I was like huh

I didn’t even know they could spawn

[minor fractal]

It depends on if the group is forced scout or the 0:2 group

0:2 has some pods w/ scouts, some w/out

[storm nexus]

Question. I can do a very heavy tweak in graphics settings and it will net me either no fps change or if I invert settings from max to low excluding shadow quality it will only net me a change of 65-70 fps in light spaces to only 90-92 fps. In other games where I do that there's usually a big difference but here it provides hardly any.
There isn't even a change with things running in the background and having a second monitor with 1920x1200 displaying video versus one monitor and everything but GTFO closed down.
Granted I'm using a weird chipset being the Ryzen AI Max+ 395 but it still seems kind of weird to me.
What is the cause of this limitation? I'm not complaining or anything along those lines I'm just genuinely intrigued.

[burnt inlet]

Gtfo is a game which wants a high amount of ram and vram, is cpu bound in most cases and also is poorly optimised (for getting higher fps). The game runs on unity which is good at being compatible and runnable on most hardware sucks ass when it comes to performance (specially trying to get more). If youre running at a res that's higher than 1080 you could theoretically bump it down to see if you get more fps, if everyone in your lobby is running the same mods you can run lgtuner and brokengeocellfix to gain some performance and turn of AA because I've heard it sucks in gtfo

[little pilot]

honestly the best setting i've seen that increases fps is the render buffer queue frames thing on advanced graphics tab

putting that from 0 to 2 puts my frames at 100+ even on the most fucked up levels

[burnt inlet]

Prolly true

Why am I typing WoT I should be seeping

[storm nexus]

between 1920x1200 and my 2560x1600 the difference is about 15. the cpu part of the apu in strix is akin to a desktop i9 12900k with the gpu part rivaling a desktop 4060. that said, i also have 64gb of lpddrr5x at 8000mt with 16 of that in the gpu.

[burnt inlet]

Prolly just cpu bottlenecked though not sure, id say doing this wouldnt hurt if you haven't already

Actually I dont snow

This game is poorly optimised

But like

Only for trying to get above 120 fps ngl

[storm nexus]

ok so get this, the difference between setting that from 2-10 is nothing, but 2-0 is about 10.

i can do a bunch of weird but big tweaks the difference between very low and very high for shadow updates per frame is also 0

and as i said, whether or not im using a second monitor changes nothing

[burnt inlet]

Are you restarting your game between changing these?

[storm nexus]

its just kinda weird
my cpu doesnt even feel the need to go past 2200 mhz

[storm nexus]

i havent

but between then and now since i shut it down and reloaded it my setting are now different then they were when i booted it the first time. there were things that weren't maxxed out that now are and still no change

[burnt inlet]

Changing some stuff you'll want to restart

[burnt inlet]

As in if you slap texture quality or whatever its called to full and shadow to highest then you'll be good to go ngl

Rest you can tweak or not

[mystic rock]

multi core cpu

again gonna ask if you have a way to check which cores are being used

[storm nexus]

like task manager

[mystic rock]

with the cpu being AI oriented, it's clock speed is low and has many cores therefore games that are more single threaded will struggle

task manager could

right click on the cpu graph and click logical processors

[storm nexus]

its absolutely not the cpu the gpu looks like its at a higer utilization than it is in basically most other games i run. its still pretty weird that between below max and max that there's no difference.

[mystic rock]

are you putting every setting on low and every setting on max

[burnt inlet]

Task manager sucks for trying to differentiate what usage gpus are running on iirc

[storm nexus]

i have

only excluding shadow resolution

i get frames very close to this in helldivers at max too.

was it not obvious enough that i was talking about gpu i meant igpu? i think that was something that might not have been properly disclosed

[mystic rock]

doesn't matter much

this kind of problem with the fps not changing between graphical settings is just typical of a cpu bottleneck

nothing to do about it, just the way the game is programmed to do stuff

[storm nexus]

i highly doubt its the cpu. it wasnt struggling to run it. granted im still a bit new to even thinking about how the hardware works

but its often understood that the igpu would be the bottleneck for my system rather than the cpu.

and is it odd that theres no change regardless of whether or not theres a second monitor?

[mystic rock]

having a second monitor is barely a difference on the usage of a cpu

[storm nexus]

i more meant for the gpu

[mystic rock]

wouldn't be no

[storm nexus]

huh

[mystic rock]

it's extremely marginal

compared to a game rendering a frame

[storm nexus]

good to know

[mystic rock]

a monitor just rendering it's OS or other stuff like it is just minimal

could look into cpu debugging

see if you're having a cache issue or just cores

and can also just overclock it

[storm nexus]

how would i identify that?

[mystic rock]

cpuid hwmonitor

[burnt inlet]

Heavily depends on the game in question, gtfo is a game thats held back by cpus more than gpus

[storm nexus]

by default without my intervention it clocks to 5.1

[mystic rock]

damn 5.1 ghz ?

[storm nexus]

yeah

[mystic rock]

who tf max overclocked your cpu

[storm nexus]

its by default

[mystic rock]

funky

[storm nexus]

its also designed to run at 95c without reducing lifespan compared to a normal 80c
no thermal throttle either.

[mystic rock]

yeah then probably check if it's a cache issue

sadly yeah now that I think about it the only way to test that is testing a different cpu

oh well, guess it's just gonna be like that

[storm nexus]

its in a tablet too

[mystic rock]

what is this even supposed to mean

are you playing on one of those tablets with a keyboard

[storm nexus]

its in a tablet

[storm nexus]

yeah but its detachable

[mystic rock]

gonna blow up

[storm nexus]

nah

[storm nexus]

the funny thing is that from the previous generations they had to switch around the internals and have a steel vapor chamber with a bunch of other tweaks. it went from a tablet that could only hold 16gb of ram (32 if you sent it to a chinese guy in china that soldered on an extra 16) to a maximum of 128gb and in addition upgrading the battery from 56wh to 70wh and thank god doubling the ports.

seriously it had 1 usbc (kinda sorta 2) that was used for charging, a 3.5mm jack, microsd, and a usba.
now it has hdmi, 2 thunderbolt 4s, a proprietary charging port with passthrough, microsd, 3.5mm jack, and a usba.

[normal granite]

I spy tech talk

[normal granite]

Oh you got an 8060S huh?

Noice

[steep rover]

O thee tech bro of the discord server tell me a thing

Should I buy an 8gb ddr4 ram stick right now while the price is low-ish or wait for another four years

One of my sticks died a while ago

[burnt inlet]

If you are going to make sure its the right speed and size as the other stick I presume you have

[steep rover]

That is a very good tip

Thank you for saying that

OH

[burnt inlet]

My personal theory us that prices will fall in the gpu/ram department

[steep rover]

you could buy ram now while the price is low and wait for it to spike again and sell! It’s like the stock market! That definitely won’t be frowned upon XD

[burnt inlet]

But id say if you can afford it go ahead

There will always be a better time to buy stuff

[steep rover]

Sweet

True that

[burnt inlet]

But rn is pretty decent

[dreamy socket]

Not for a while yet
They're only starting bc Sam Altman can't keep his word

Other ai companies are still gobbling ram rn

[steep rover]

Or should I wait until Black Friday? Because even if the prices hike before Black Friday, a sale might still be cheaper and I might be able to get away with buying more in case my other stick dies

[dreamy socket]

I recommend buying during sale
More likely to get a better overall deal

[burnt inlet]

Mmm I think openai will fall and that will prove to everyone that consumer gen ai is extremely hard to get a net profit off, openai said their last resort would be ads and from what I've heard they've implemented them somewhere

[burnt inlet]

If youre willing to wait id recommend it

[steep rover]

Aight I might do that instead

Thanks for the advice, man :D

[burnt inlet]

Black friday is usually where current stuff gets discounted so the new stuff can be put on shelves

[steep rover]

I’ve personally not seen any ads, but I don’t use OpenAI stuff too often

[burnt inlet]

I grabbed a monitor last black friday for a steal so it was goated

[burnt inlet]

I dont use gen ai stuff that often so I wouldnt snow

[steep rover]

I helped a buddy build an entire computer last Black Friday so I know the insane discounts you can get lol

[burnt inlet]

Yeppers

[steep rover]

It was easily a $2k computer but we got it built for like $900

[burnt inlet]

Here in sweden its either student coupons or black friday where you can get insanely cheap stuff

[steep rover]

I occasionally ask ChatGPT a question on my phone because safari sucks, but other than that I don’t use it much either

[dreamy socket]

Surely you buy me shit and send it
I'm low-key broke

[burnt inlet]

I only ask it a question whenever im troubleshooting something tech related but that rarely happens

[steep rover]

Plus I assume I’d see ads if I’m not logged in, and asking ChatGPT something on a mobile device, if there were ads. That just seems like the place to have those

[burnt inlet]

The taxes we get on stuff is insane ngl

[steep rover]

Bro tech bro gpt is goated. Stupid, but goated

[dreamy socket]

That's not a no 👀

[steep rover]

HAHAHAHA

[burnt inlet]

https://openai.com/index/testing-ads-in-chatgpt/

[burnt inlet]

Its a 50 50 an im a gambler at heart

[burnt inlet]

My account would prolly get shut down but we schmove

[burnt inlet]

Ah its only within the US

[steep rover]

Thats odd because I’m in the US

and I’ve not seen any still

[burnt inlet]

Lmao average

[steep rover]

And this was in march, so I have definitely used ChatGPT since then lol

[dreamy socket]

L US

[burnt inlet]

Oh its only for logged in adults

[steep rover]

Ooooooh

I’m one of those too XD

That’s weird

[burnt inlet]

Weird

[steep rover]

Maybe they had to walk it back after a while

[burnt inlet]

Maybe

[steep rover]

I assume people weren’t entirely jazzed about it

[steep rover]

XD

[burnt inlet]

Maybe they're not rolling it out to everyone

[burnt inlet]

What can you expect /hs

[steep rover]

That is possible

“Today we are rolling out ads on our international platform, but only in the EU. We wouldn’t want to make money in the world’s largest market, so we’re just not gonna advertise there. Screw those guys.”

[dreamy socket]

I don't expect gen ai to fall anytime soon
But I do expect people to get fed up with their bs

[burnt inlet]

Thing is its unsustainable

[steep rover]

I mean either way it’s gonna fall

Yeah

[burnt inlet]

At least for companies that dont pull money from somewhere else

I think only Google and those big types of companies that have several income sources would be able to make consumer ai stuff

[steep rover]

Nvidia

[civic wave]

they're already floundering

[steep rover]

I truly think that nvidia is gonna carry the gen ai market through the crash

[civic wave]

you only need wait for the fish out of water to suffocate

[steep rover]

But they have so much money!

That is very poetic, and I like it

[steep rover]

What have they been doing, though? I’ve not been keeping a super close eye on the genai stuff

[burnt inlet]

The general ai economy is very bubble shaped

[steep rover]

Yeah

But again… they have so much money

They reasonably could keep going at it after the crash

[dreamy socket]

Ai is feeding into ai rn

[steep rover]

Unlimited power meme

[burnt inlet]

Theoretical money, openai buys a shit ton of stuff from nvidia nvidia rents either models or datacenters and it all goes in a circle, propping up their revenues

Iirc openai is already -3 billion usd this year

[steep rover]

That also amazes me

There has to be some long-term plan here

Businesses don’t just lose billions without having that

[burnt inlet]

The long term plan is to pull out before it crashes

Their plan on paper however is to build a bunch of datacenters and stuff like that

[steep rover]

That makes sense

Yeah

Surely they wouldn’t just keep building up ai infrastructure just to abandon it when the crash happens, right?

But if the market is crashing, who would buy them?

[burnt inlet]

Hey at least we will get pc/server parts for cheap

[steep rover]

I’m so I knowledgeable on the economy. This is utterly fascinating to me. Thank you for indulging me XD

[steep rover]

that is all we can truly hope for. The silicon light at the end of the ai generated tunnel lol

[burnt inlet]

Just be prepped for every ai based/directional company to take a hit at least within 10 years, im predicting even shorter but thats just estimations

[steep rover]

I’ve seen predictions for 12 years and 1 year so it really could be anytime I think

[burnt inlet]

Im just hoping the economy won't fall too hard

[burnt inlet]

Yeppers

[steep rover]

That would be nice

[burnt inlet]

The US all due respect a bit cooked

[steep rover]

If only we had elected somebody into a high office who had promised us directly that the economy would be good if we elected him

I love politicians

I like it here but man I’d like to buy a house one day XD

[civic wave]

tfw a pathological liar lies again

[dreamy socket]

Always has been

[burnt inlet]

He's also distracting everyone from the files

[upper ginkgo]

many such cases

[steep rover]

Ngl I didn’t ever think he’d release the files

[steep rover]

https://tenor.com/view/well-well-well-well-gif-10269274091263267235

[dreamy socket]

Shouldve elected a femboy
They know what theyre doing

[steep rover]

Heck yeah

[winter breach]

"Guys after 30 years i promise i will make the economy be good once and for all only if you elect me!" ahh politicians

[void gulch]

I'm trying to understand hp, is it correct that a fully charged bat would oneshot a scout in the head if it had at least +17% damage from boosters?

[burnt inlet]

@tardy ingot how does first error r5e1 work?

[sudden nexus]

or just go back of head

fully charged to back of head will kill

[void gulch]

yea

but would 17% make it possible?

[upbeat flame]

Considering zoomer scouts can get one tapped and they have slightly less hp, probably

[tardy ingot]

wdym?

[burnt inlet]

clearing up misinfo in a server

[timber shoal]

what exactly are the spawn mechanics

[tardy ingot]

its an error... so there rly isnt anything special about the spawn rule?

[timber shoal]

is it 5 enemies total always or is it 5 strikers plus additional hybrids

[burnt inlet]

and does the game spawn 2 errors instead of 1

[tardy ingot]

afaik hybrids can fill in for enemies (spawn instead of basically)

[sudden nexus]

(42/3)/12 = 1.166666
should work, yes

[tardy ingot]

so you can get 0 hybrids for a while

[burnt inlet]

@ebon light @bronze topaz

[ebon light]

this just doesnt feel true am I insane

do my strikers know mitosis

ill always be killing 5 + hybrids while holding

[bronze topaz]

u gotta be tweaking

there's no way

[ebon light]

my ammo balance proves im not tweaking brah

like tf

[upbeat flame]

You gotta start using ricochet bullets

[ebon light]

boomerang bullets 👀

[void gulch]

gotcha. The wiki makes damage calculations looks more difficult than they actually are

[burnt inlet]

you gotta use a boomerang monkey to kill all the hybrids in one shot

[ebon light]

like 5 with replacements just doesnt feel right from a playing the level perspective

[normal granite]

yes

error alarms do in fact stack

[ebon light]

solo holding im always killing 5 strikers + hybrids if they spawn

[burnt inlet]

for r5e1 first error does it spawn 2 error alarms instead of 1

[timber shoal]

literally not what the question was

[burnt inlet]

was my question

[tardy ingot]

I mean I might be wrong when it comes to this error. Im not very active when it comes to datablocks stuff

easier to do @little pilot for that (also fun)

[burnt inlet]

tgb is gonna say like

"its either or"

[normal granite]

lemme go check the dbs for r5e1

[burnt inlet]

and then leave

[bronze topaz]

@ebon light just checked and im getting 3 hybrids + 2 strikers in the wave

in game

[ebon light]

I was told that this error in specific is not a normal error

[bronze topaz]

im gonna be so deadass

[ebon light]

so like

idk

[burnt inlet]

@normal granite

from a server

[timber shoal]

zed misinfo

w

[little pilot]

why have i been pinged?

[ebon light]

then either my strikers know mitosis or something evil is happening to me

[burnt inlet]

r5e1 first error

5 strikers + hybrids

or "x-hybrids" strikers

[bronze topaz]

just got 4 strikers 1 hybrid

[burnt inlet]

average moth moment

[bronze topaz]

does that sound like 5 strikers to you @ebon light

[burnt inlet]

😭 the toxicity

[little pilot]

it's always x-hybrids no?

[ebon light]

sounds like uour strikers are taking an off day

[normal granite]

which zone is the first r5e1 error?

[burnt inlet]

idk someone is feeding jamie misinfo

[tardy ingot]

thats what I remembered but I have been very poke-brained and R5E1 isnt a level I ever did a true deep dive into

[burnt inlet]

i posted datablock

[ebon light]

maybe the game knows we are doing cell skip and spawns 5 strikers + hybrids to fuck you over

and is nice to you during a normal clear

[normal granite]

wanna check other stuff too

[bronze topaz]

because strikers cost less than 1 credit to spawn, ther'es a small chance for their to be 6 enemies

but even then it's rare

[tardy ingot]

you know its way funnier in R6C1 cuz I got a wave with 3 hybrids before

[little pilot]

if this is the datablock i am telling u all it is x-hybrids

always

[bronze topaz]

i cant type

[tardy ingot]

"C tier error btw"

[burnt inlet]

im going to bed after solving this

goon night team

[timber shoal]

wait its the same substitution error 😭

or similar

thats funny

[little pilot]

wait what?

they cost 1 no?

that alarm uses id 1 and 2, id 1 being striker, id 2 being hybrid

cost for id 1 is always 1, cost for id 2 is also 1

cost for id 0 is 0.75

[tardy ingot]

and thats shadows no?

[bronze topaz]

it's some weird shit with population filter but it might just be shadows lowkey

i might be wrong abt that

[little pilot]

it's just did they use it for anything but shadows?

[upbeat flame]

What would cost less than 1? Babies?