what are you saying
#gtfo-related-questions
cedar heath
holy shit it's cookiezi
latent panther
tis i cookiezi
civic laurel
are they stupid in the head???
normal granite
Yes
civic laurel
r1d1
normal granite
If it wasnt 3am id give ya a hand
civic laurel
💔
safe cradle
is this meant to happen???
It's a very old bug that never got properly fixed
Funnily enough, last time I checked BetterBots (Alt R3 release) nor even that fixed it
AFAIK there's no way of fixing it aside from kicking the bots
hard nexus
current betterbots no issue
prime ore
are they stupid in the head???
Yeah welcome to gtfo
This game commits death the moment you wanna try more than 3 matches without relaunching
So stuff can just break time to time
ocean spindle
AFAIK there's no way of fixing it aside from kicking the bots
which isnt too hard
coral dune
how does weapon falloff work?
spring ocean
each weapon has damage falloff at a certain set of meters, varying from weapon to weapon
there is a mod that lets you see more in depth information about weapons and the stats they have
including knowledge on which weapons can inflict stagger
past mesa
how does weapon falloff work?
Linear decrease after a certain range to another range all guns do a minimum of 10% damage
So ar is given two ranges 15-40(fake numbers) anything less than 15 meters full damage at 15-40 we decrease from full damage to 10% damage this decrease is linear
Than past 40 meters you de 10% damage
copper rivet
I know the answer to the question I'm going to ask might be "git gud" but d4rkeva's vids are current, right? I watch how he moves in some of the vids (the boys and I have been deliberating on this one this week as we get pumped for the next r1d1 attempt on the weekend) and it seems like the enemies are much more sensitive than in the vid, like you walk up to them and they get real mad and try to bite you. Is this just a case of us not having the "feel" down for things yet?
timber shoal
I know the answer to the question I'm going to ask *might* be "git gud" but d4rk...
one thing to consider is that everyone but the host of your game is on a delay due to clients having ping
calm pulsar
I know the answer to the question I'm going to ask *might* be "git gud" but d4rk...
Basically yeah
raven copper
basically all of it is good
timber shoal
but yes eva's video should be plenty up to date
raven copper
ping is jus really funky an desync is a thing
copper rivet
ok, thank you. I will mentally eliminate that as a potential variable hahaha
ripe hamlet
You need to play by ears
copper rivet
I did a quick run through training and noticed the clicks in a way I hadn't previously.
ripe hamlet
You’ll get a feel of how close you can edge the enemies wit your ping
Just keep playing
raven copper
also walking an crouching walking give quicker or slower like glowing from the enemies
grizzled patrol
I know the answer to the question I'm going to ask *might* be "git gud" but d4rk...
Depends on when you have started to move. If you are moving when they are already glowing you are on a Tight clock
dreamy socket
Host often has a better time stealthing than anyone else.
Its something you learn to play around
raven copper
jus walking at them will agitate them quicker an crouching an doing it an when they tweak out is the dont move indicator
jus pay attention to sounds an how the enemy looks while walking around
prime musk
while it may not always be doable you do want to keep the same player hosting in your group just so that everyone is used to the specific ping
ripe hamlet
It’s fine if the enemies wake if you’re going for a melee
copper rivet
It’s fine if the enemies wake if you’re going for a melee
this was a huge revelation to us
before we panicked completely
ripe hamlet
You just have to make sure no bad long distance aggro is at play
prime musk
the main thing is that IF an enemy wakes from movement before you whack it, it GUARANTEES long range aggro if there is a glowing enemy in range and with los
ripe hamlet
the main thing is that IF an enemy wakes from movement before you whack it, it G...
You can use this fact to abuse long distance aggro to force good follow up
Since enemies that already wake will not wake or trigger another long distance or proximity aggro
raven copper
audio an not panicking is your best friend
too many new players see a enemy wake up an freak out shooting or running around
grizzled patrol
I might be crazy, but i think all this Info is already in the guide
raven copper
ok like mb ig
dreamy socket
Run into rooms and stab everything trust /s
copper rivet
I might be crazy, but i think all this Info is already in the guide
ooof, I was nervous about this. Sorry if I missed it, which guide?
raven copper
ill jus blow myself up
grizzled patrol
ooof, I was nervous about this. Sorry if I missed it, which guide?
There is a stealth Guide from eva
ripe hamlet
I might be crazy, but i think all this Info is already in the guide
Mostly yeah
But it’s dense for newbie
grizzled patrol
copper rivet
oh yes, I think we saw that one. I did not fully trust cuz it was a little bit older
dreamy socket
I think walk stealthing is also mentioned in the speed up your runs guide
copper rivet
I will watch with new eyes
thanks all
looking forward to starting the 2nd rundown
timber shoal
see me giving them that advice wasnt useless so hop off my dih
i will not
grizzled patrol
oh yes, I think we saw that one. I did not fully trust cuz it was a little bit o...
The Last meaningfull Game Update is already 2 years old 🥀
copper rivet
I will let my friends know that if the info in the vids seems wrong it is because we are fresh and new and not because the vids are outdated
I love GTFO
I hope my buddies don't get burned out, it is in my thoughts constantly throughout the week til we get to play again
grizzled patrol
If they do burn Out, locking them in the basement is Always a option
dreamy socket
If they do burn Out, locking them in the basement is Always a option
I do this to myself sometimes to avoid burnout
grizzled patrol
Dont do it too often, otherwise your House will Catch on fire
dreamy socket
dw its usually a low burn
raven copper
as long as your not spamming it 24/7 you probably wont get burnt out
dreamy socket
as long as your not spamming it 24/7 you probably wont get burnt out
School + GTFO = common burnout. Isnotfun
dreamy socket
so glad i did all my harder uni stuff prior to this game xd
Im at the hard part of high-school sooo... yea
grizzled patrol
GTFO is pretty good for chilling after Work ngl
raven copper
after work its nice actually
dreamy socket
GTFO is pretty good for chilling after Work ngl
I un-ironically use it to de-stress alot of the time I play it.
coral dune
why do clients have less shots to kill than host?
timber shoal
why do clients have less shots to kill than host?
for bosses you mean?
coral dune
ye
timber shoal
tumors are supposed to break after taking a certain amount of damage
client introduces a slight delay that allows tumors to be overdamaged
dreamy socket
With things like scatter gun as well i believe you just hit more of the scatter per scatter on the tumor
timber shoal
increasing the damage per shot
ocean spindle
Unlike the heads of enemies, damage performed to the bosses weakspots (tumors) is capped per damage-instance by the maximum HP of the tumor.
However, clients are often able to target the same tumor repeatedly before receiving an update from the host informing them that the tumor has popped - potentially allowing massive damage to be inflicted to the enemy while only popping a single tumor. Since this damage is dealt through many small damage-instances, the damage is not capped by the health of the tumor.
thank u wiki
dreamy socket
Unlike the heads of enemies, damage performed to the bosses weakspots (tumors) i...
Copy paste wiki smh my head
ocean spindle
:3
grizzled patrol
Unlike the heads of enemies, damage performed to the bosses weakspots (tumors) i...
Bring Back giga Sniper with uncapped damage
ocean spindle
das what im sayin
dreamy socket
Bring Back giga Sniper with uncapped damage
Wish I could've seen it
raven copper
thats what im saying
wait i did play for that
one single run
then never again
till last year
grizzled patrol
It lasted only Like 5 hours
dreamy socket
It lasted only Like 5 hours
Surely downpatch to that 5 hours
elfin canyon
is there a mission with a scout early on (preferably first room) that i can practice with? or a mission with lots of them
upbeat flame
r2e1 has a scout if you have that lvl unlocked
timber shoal
is there a mission with a scout early on (preferably first room) that i can prac...
if you dont mind modding the game there's a mod called scoutplayground or something like it that spawns exclusively scouts
grizzled patrol
is there a mission with a scout early on (preferably first room) that i can prac...
R8C1
prime ore
is there a mission with a scout early on (preferably first room) that i can prac...
R2D1 has a zone with only scouts which is really good for practice
cedar heath
What's the most optimal route for r1a1 logless speedrun?
burnt inlet
@tardy ingot
tardy ingot
The same as the most optimal in general?
theres not much specific routing for r1a1
youd just bash your head into getting a close c or g key
Then gamble on a close b hsu
If you dont want to spend 1000 runs for nothing. Then you dont do that though
burnt inlet
youd just bash your head into getting a close c or g key
Then gamble on a close...
Logless btw methinks but yea
burnt inlet
What's the most optimal route for r1a1 logless speedrun?
If you're doing logless you'll want the speedrunningcore mod
prime musk
youd just bash your head into getting a close c or g key
Then gamble on a close...
it is for sure better to gamble on a A/B/F key than it is to go into C
getting an F key is a very reasonable 1/6 and you get an insane amount of box spawns on path for resources
tardy ingot
it is for sure better to gamble on a A/B/F key than it is to go into C
in r1a1? eh
you can check close C and close G
cedar heath
Tks a lot. Is there any tips for the class IV alarm?
tardy ingot
B/F are also an option but are less likely and actually slower by a bit than close C
prime musk
yeah and the odds for either of those aree lower than that of F key
tardy ingot
Tks a lot. Is there any tips for the class IV alarm?
Solo?
cedar heath
Yes
tardy ingot
burst sentry in the spot all solo runs have it
In a speedrun you kinda want to stick scans. So do scans closer to enemies coming in first so you can fall back into other scans
The chance for an F key isnt higher than a similarly fast G/C key
prime musk
that is just incorrect
F key is 16%
C key is 7.5% (not counting all the bad C keys you don't get to check)
the relevant G keys add less than 8%
cedar heath
And what to do when having bad scans? Sometimes the scans go to right in front of the door and my sentry's los
tardy ingot
F key is 16%
C key is 7.5% (not counting all the bad C keys you don't get to che...
if you count all F keys you have to count for minimum half of G
prime musk
if you count all F keys you have to count for minimum half of G
no, because checking all the relevant C keys AND those further G keys take A LOT more time than the B and F keys simply because of running distance.
tardy ingot
Since its solo I will say that B/F route is def easier to play
I wasnt aware that it was solo at first
cedar heath
Is it okay to go to the res zone when I know the key is in area G but don't know where are the resources?
prime musk
no, it is far too slow if you're actually going for a good time
tardy ingot
for a speedrun? Its not recommended
You are kinda just gambling that you get the res walking past
cedar heath
We can know where are the res when doin' logged runs, right?
tardy ingot
Yea
prime musk
you could also hypothetically log an E trip as well to make the alarm easier
prime musk
i don't know exactly but in starting zone it is only in B im pretty sure
cedar heath
Understood. And 1 more question: When verifying the speedrun, beside the speedruncore mod, which mods are allowed to use?
little pilot
sadly most other mods modify the functions that get called in game too much
bepinex already is fucked when it comes to this
cedar heath
that sucks ;(( Tysm for the information. I'll install the speedrunning core mod and hope that I could get at least sub 9
tardy ingot
that sucks ;(( Tysm for the information. I'll install the speedrunning core mod ...
you got this 
livid stone
Is cfoam laddering allowed in speedruns?
livid stone
So ladderfoaming is accepted good to know
tardy ingot
So ladderfoaming is accepted good to know
for speedruns yes
tardy ingot
eva with the double world records
the thumbnails being the same is so funny to me
safe cradle
So ladderfoaming is accepted good to know
I dont think you can get banned from this discord for it even in non-speedruns/casual play
I personally put the no-ladderfoam on my R2E1s just because I dont like it
Heck, AFAIK not even doorbugging gets you banned here
Only bad behaviour and cheating mods get you banned
There's the point that most people just dont report
burnt inlet
Only bad behaviour and cheating mods get you banned
Even then they're relaxed about the rules
safe cradle
For example I never report, worse I do is block the user so I know not to play with them and call it a day
civic laurel
have I gotten better at the game or is early R2 MUCH easier than early R1?
burnt inlet
have I gotten better at the game or is early R2 MUCH easier than early R1?
r1a1 is pretty hard for an A tier, rest id say R2 is harder probs
upbeat flame
c2 d1 d2 and e1 is a pretty brutal stretch of levels for newer players
civic laurel
i see
ocean spindle
have I gotten better at the game or is early R2 MUCH easier than early R1?
ur used to the game, so what prevs wouldve murdered u now is ok
eg b1 wouldve been brutal
burnt inlet
B1 B2 felt free
R1B1 is prolly freest of them all ngl
upbeat flame
r2
burnt inlet
actually i dont even remember r2 B tiers
ocean spindle
actually i dont even remember r2 B tiers
uh tier VII, gens and bigs, uplink, fog turbin
burnt inlet
yea id say R2B tiers are harder
frail heart
call me R2B tiers
ocean spindle
call me R2B tiers
ok septic
civic wave
idk why you're talking to this guy, he's power hungry
anything you say, straight to the head with that one
ocean spindle
he just sacrifices a lot for the hunger
frail heart
im unplugged
raven copper
the joke has to go through some sort of rebirth in order to be funny again
coral dune
is there ever a reason to use hammer over spear?
tardy ingot
is there ever a reason to use hammer over spear?
99,9% of the time yea
dreamy socket
Only thing spear has going for it is range i think
tardy ingot
It has better dmg which enables easier kills. Especially on strikers where you dont need to aim for head and just kill with a full charge
It also lets you sprint when charging which is insanely strong.
Spear rly only has range (which usually doesnt matter) and extra precision dmg (which for anything but bosses doesnt change how many hits it takes to kill)
dreamy socket
Knife ~= Hammer > Bat > Spear
tardy ingot
Hammer > Knife >> bat >> spear
ripe hamlet
It has better dmg which enables easier kills. Especially on strikers where you d...
better weak point multiplier
it has worse normal dmg than hammer
dreamy socket
Hammer > Knife >> bat >> spear
Nah, knife = hammer, knife has upsides that hammer doesn't and vice versa. Situational imo
ripe hamlet
cant even kill a striker with full charge to the front
tardy ingot
better weak point multiplier
huh? I did say hammer has better dmg and spear more precision dmg 
fallen kite
bat >>>>>>
dreamy socket
Bat <<<<<<<
fallen kite
Bat <<<<<<<
how dare you insult my minecraft pickaxe
ripe hamlet
huh? I did say hammer has better dmg and spear more precision dmg <:akameThink:1...
i misread it 🥀
tardy ingot
Nah, knife = hammer, knife has upsides that hammer doesn't and vice versa. Situa...
Knife has upsides hammer doesnt yes. Thats why its 2nd best
Hammer is far better where knife isnt good though while hammer can keep up somewhat with knife in its area.
Game is simply designed around the hammer, hence hammer > knife
grizzled patrol
Fuck the Hammer. All my homies use the sleepers buster
ripe hamlet
hammer is far more consistent than knife
there are way more situation where you can get by with hammer than knife
dreamy socket
Fuck the Hammer. All my homies use the sleepers buster
Nah, Machine Stick > Sleeper Buster
fallen kite
Nah, Machine Stick > Sleeper Buster
this is ragebait
dreamy socket
this is ragebait
:3
grizzled patrol
Im down
fallen kite
👉 👈
balmy sedge
what is the "alt" stands for in the lfg channels? are those modded lobbies?
topaz anvil
what is the "alt" stands for in the lfg channels? are those modded lobbies?
Alt is just the remastered old rundowns that released prior to 1.0
safe cradle
what is the "alt" stands for in the lfg channels? are those modded lobbies?
long story short, ignore it
topaz anvil
Sorry, released prior to them keeping all rundowns
balmy sedge
so its not for beginners. aight. thx for the info o7
safe cradle
so its not for beginners. aight. thx for the info o7
it is
topaz anvil
Nah they are, it's just old content re-released basicallu
balmy sedge
ah ok. i rather do the game as how it is for now tho. just to avoid confusing myself.
topaz anvil
you do you. I'm not angry 😭
fleet niche
Is the hel autopistol good? I havent used it much but its been a nice pocket weapon for close range in the runs ive had
final terrace
ah ok. i rather do the game as how it is for now tho. just to avoid confusing my...
the alt rundowns are how the game is now
you cant access the old rundowns normally
livid stone
ah ok. i rather do the game as how it is for now tho. just to avoid confusing my...
well the alt ones are how it is for now
final terrace
(except for 7 and 8)
final terrace
Is the hel autopistol good? I havent used it much but its been a nice pocket wea...
not that great in damage but good for staggering enemies
safe cradle
Is the hel autopistol good? I havent used it much but its been a nice pocket wea...
1 in the team is usually fine, you're supposed to maximize stagger on enemies rather than just unloading the mag on enemies
vagrant wasp
what is the "alt" stands for in the lfg channels? are those modded lobbies?
yeah the alt thing confused me when i first started too lol
cedar heath
without Brazil skip, what's the wr of r7e1?
frail heart
without Brazil skip, what's the wr of r7e1?
23:30
cedar heath
23:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgpNSe2kgrc
this one, right?
frail heart
ya
cedar heath
wow that's 5 minutes gap in Brazil
fathom ice
more like 3
dire crest
what do the empty ones stand for, how to fill them
timber shoal
what do the empty ones stand for, how to fill them
some levels have optional objectives called secondary and overload objectives
you wont have to worry about those until r4 though
dire crest
hm, there is no other objectives until r4?
ocean spindle
exactly
dire crest
thank you
normal granite
How is brazil skip even performed in R7E1?
timber shoal
How is brazil skip even performed in R7E1?
dont do room scan
or rather pull roomscan and just progress as usual without completing it
normal granite
Oh, does the door just open
burnt inlet
Oh, does the door just open
Yes
fathom ice
All 3 doors open with scan start
timber shoal
[[R2D1]]
gray rapidsBOT
steady scroll
has anyone else been having issues by not being able to see some friends in the lobby and in the game?
burnt inlet
has anyone else been having issues by not being able to see some friends in the ...
anyone running vpns?
steady scroll
nope
burnt inlet
lowkey do a forum post here https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1049599987878723635, attach logs from %userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\10 Chambers Collective\GTFO with the CLIENT and MASTER ones, player could also be good
steady scroll
we restarted our pcs and it worked 👍
coral dune
do licks work like a hitbox, where if someone is in the box, they get licked?
ocean spindle
do licks work like a hitbox, where if someone is in the box, they get licked?
sort of, basically is many checks to see if u get hit
keen seal
do licks work like a hitbox, where if someone is in the box, they get licked?
https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Enemy_Attacks you can read this
ocean spindle
being in line of sight, being in an infinite hallway, being in front and not to the side
for egading tongues, if u go to the side of the enemy or circle itt, theyll miss
keen seal
tldr don't be too close and don't be in front of them
ping makes the timing more/less lenient
abstract junco
Hey, my mate and I are on R5A3. Is there a bug relating to finding a code on the terminals?
timber shoal
Hey, my mate and I are on R5A3. Is there a bug relating to finding a code on the...
what're you encountering?
abstract junco
Well, where doing the main for R5A3 where you have to find 3 terminals with codes on them to unlock 2 other terminals, and the last one is encrypted, and you need to find two terminals to complete the code and well we can't find the last two letters to make the code
timber shoal
Well, where doing the main for R5A3 where you have to find 3 terminals with code...
you can either guess the code based off the letters you have or there should be more terminals
raven copper
ye never heard or had a bug where you cant get the codes themselves
abstract junco
welp I brute forced it but we died at the very end when we had like no ammo lol
prime musk
welp I brute forced it but we died at the very end when we had like no ammo lol
the last password comes in 2 parts, but there are more than 2 terminals in the zone where you find that password. so it is random which terminals you have to go to.
abstract junco
the last password comes in 2 parts, but there are more than 2 terminals in the z...
well there was 3, and only one had the password
prime musk
can you send me your log file from that session
keen seal
the zone has 4 terms
raven copper
only way you couldn't get them would be like terms getting bugged or something id assume
keen seal
safe cradle
well there was 3, and only one had the password
you know you can list terminals too
coarse lodge
Just completed R4A1 and i seen a popup for the secondary objective but couldn't figure out how to get more information after the popup vanished. Question is how do I check on the optional objectives in the middle of a game?
mystic rock
press o
but it only shows if you have been in the area that the obj takes place in
usually alternative objectives are in zones that are really different
so just close a door and see where is the way to a zone that is very different than others
like if a door leads to 48-52, 152
then that's the correct way cause 152 would be your secondary
you need to find bulkhead_keys for them
coarse lodge
okay ty 
balmy sedge
so about modding, do I need that overflow manadger? bc it just keeps me directing to create accounts....I just want the goo removed from hud, bro
prime musk
you just need r2modman
balmy sedge
prime musk
yes
balmy sedge
is there a list of recommended mods, or I just go throught the site?
sick mauve
depends
tiny wyvern
What do you want to do with mods?
balmy sedge
just qol
tiny wyvern
How QOL do you want your QOL
balmy sedge
bugfixes, etc. no gameplay change.
for example i got the ping everithing just now. stuff like that
tardy ingot
some bug“fixes“ will have gameplay changes
tiny wyvern
Well, there's the funny list on the [[Bug Wiki/Tech Support Wiki]]
gray rapidsBOT
tacit cedar
some good bugfixes that don't change gp are: shooterbugfix, gluefix, memoryleakfix, snatcherbugfix
sick mauve
check the amorpack if you’d like. although it is more suited for modded rundowns. can still run it on vanilla if you disable local progression (a mod only for modded rundowns)
tardy ingot
Theres also some neat qol mods that arent fixed or gameplay changing but are nice such as
Archive
Accurate crosshair
Medals mod 
balmy sedge
kinda want dash on diagonal W+A/D keys
sick mauve
or dino pack
burnt inlet
Theres also some neat qol mods that arent fixed or gameplay changing but are nic...
Arsenality and custom boosters too /j
tardy ingot
Arsenality and custom boosters too /j
Get out
sick mauve
Arsenality and custom boosters too /j
dreamy socket
Arsenality and custom boosters too /j
Oh god, this pub would rely on arsenality
tacit cedar
also gtforeplay is cool and killindicatorfix is incredibly nice to have
dreamy socket
<@896645698420895744> surely we duo
It's 3am, and I have an exam today
balmy sedge
Oh god, this pub would rely on arsenality
how dare you call me a pub 😄
dreamy socket
how dare you call me a pub 😄
Not U, Moth
dreamy socket
also gtforeplay is cool and killindicatorfix is incredibly nice to have
Gt Foreplay frfr
burnt inlet
how dare you call me a pub 😄
"EhrM actchually you are a newbie till 1k hours" 🤓 👆
timber shoal
erm actually it’s 1.5k
burnt inlet
erchm actchually its 2k
dreamy socket
Were all pubs, dw no one is left out
fathom ice
true
burnt inlet
Sky is giga pub
dreamy socket
Sky is giga pub
Said the giga pub 🥀
burnt inlet
Takes one to snow one
dreamy socket
frfr
prime musk
"EhrM actchually you are a newbie till 1k hours" 🤓 👆
idk compared to the skill ceiling you're probably out of pub territory when you like
duo e2 tpless
dreamy socket
idk compared to the skill ceiling you're probably out of pub territory when you ...
High ceilings in hard games
burnt inlet
idk compared to the skill ceiling you're probably out of pub territory when you ...
Na its when you solo e2 tpless
prime musk
Na its when you solo e2 tpless
with boosters and set seed this is
very very doable i probably would only need 1 session to manage it
without either it's theoretically doable but realistically impossible
you just cannot shoot nm6 and you don't have the time to kite it if you have to carry mwp
ig if you
cancel your surge with kraken
and then backtrack for mwp
dreamy socket
without either it's theoretically doable but realistically impossible
Just do it smh my head
prime musk
idk maybe when someone else does an e2 solo (cheatless) ill consider it
it's just uninteresting to do it again but ft. backtracking to mwp
maybe if i figure out a way for sentry to be playable not just theoretically i'd be more interested in it
balmy sedge
"EhrM actchually you are a newbie till 1k hours" 🤓 👆
i take noob
anyone got the name of that "no goo on screen mod" ? there is so much, i cant find it..welp
timber shoal
anyone got the name of that "no goo on screen mod" ? there is so much, i cant fi...
you mean the blood from killing enemies yeah?
download the archive and there’s a way to toggle the fluid system
burnt inlet
anyone got the name of that "no goo on screen mod" ? there is so much, i cant fi...
The archive has a function to disable that
balmy sedge
ye, bc it also cover the terminal, and its hard to read letters
burnt inlet
ye, bc it also cover the terminal, and its hard to read letters
Mightve been bugged
balmy sedge
archive_core?
burnt inlet
archive_core?
And essentials
balmy sedge
do I need both?
burnt inlet
Ye
balmy sedge
ok, thx
tacit cedar
if you're talking about the letters being wavy when you have infection that's just part of the game btw
balmy sedge
is this fine, or imma crash mid game for magical reasons?
prime musk
rolling spawns in kds every time lol
listen my theoretical strat which i got to work
once
is
i roll for only kds spawns
and midway through alarm
i go long
to refill sentry and grab more ammo
burnt inlet
is this fine, or imma crash mid game for magical reasons?
Ping everything is gonna crash your entire pc and make you reinstall Windows (joke)
timber shoal
if you're talking about the letters being wavy when you have infection that's ju...
archive i think can disable that too?
might be misinfo though
tacit cedar
it's probably there somewhere it has like a billion things
burnt inlet
archive i think can disable that too?
It can
frail heart
to refill sentry and grab more ammo
hmm i feel like if you can store a 5 ammo and hold a 5 ammo, if you roll good rng and shoot well it might be okay
but idk
havent tested
prime musk
the issue is not even that it is too hard to shoot (though some scan positions + wave positions are virtually unshootable)
the big issue is that your sentry just runs out
and when it runs out the late waves are fully not shootable
i was strategising to never gamble on boxes in room but if it helps it helps
keen seal
ok, thx
might be obvious but you can read what other stuff archive does on the mod page
some of it is pretty nice
makes the game more quiet on drop and skips the intro cutscene
you also see who is loading for example
balmy sedge
aight. do I need to do anithing to make the mods work? seems like when i drop in, none is preset atm
fathom ice
the big issue is that your sentry just runs out
that's why you also store a 5 tool !
keen seal
yeah when you launch your modded profile for the first time it'll generate config files for the mods
archive has it's own settings menu in game though
balmy sedge
ah, ok, so I need to start the game from the mod manager with "modded realm"
makes sense
keen seal
start modded from the top left here
balmy sedge
makes sense, just hoped i dont need extra stuff. oki 🙂
keen seal
you don't
balmy sedge
i mean, running as vanilla by clicking on the icon, thats just me being lazy
keen seal
yeah :D
balmy sedge
so..clients with mods can connect to unmodded? and vica versa? and this is just client side stuff right?
prime musk
that's why you also store a 5 tool !
doesn't help because you never get the space to refill without kiting
prime musk
so..clients with mods can connect to unmodded? and vica versa? and this is just ...
depends on the mods you install
fathom ice
doesn't help because you never get the space to refill without kiting
what if it KDS SPAWNS
and your timing is ideal
THOUGHTS
prime musk
a lot is client side, a lot is host only (ie it is vanilla, but it only works if you're host for technical reasons), and a lot is custom rundowns and custom content
carmine grotto
so..clients with mods can connect to unmodded? and vica versa? and this is just ...
For the most part yes, with what you're running you should be fine
Anything more than bug fixes or customization mods you'll have to host
balmy sedge
can I have a hello kitty gun?
raven copper
if you can get the assets for the gun you could make one into it ye
balmy sedge
omg, best game ever
copper rivet
we finally did it
HOWEVER, I have a question about monster spawns
me and a buddy started r1d1 last night w/ 2 bots. then my friend's bro joined us (our last friend was out and was gonna be late)
we absolutely tap-danced through the level, flush w/ resources, not breaking a sweat
but then we did a 2nd attempt after my late friend came in
and we were obliterated
the run for the extraction had SO MANY MONSTERS
i couldn't mark them all!
it was so drastically different
i know there's no scaling in GTFO, but it really felt like there was
we left turrets behind and ran- does that influence monster spawns?
raven copper
gtfo does not scale with more players
timber shoal
what probably happened was all the shadows were spawning forward
raven copper
that too
timber shoal
and the prior attempt they were spawning behind
you can outrun shadows by sprinting so you never would’ve seen them
copper rivet
we were getting pincered the whole way out on our 2nd try, it was horrible
timber shoal
but if you got unlucky they all could’ve been in front of you
dreamy socket
They really do just pick a side and go fuck you
tiny wyvern
They can spawn on top of you if you run fast enough, so there's that
copper rivet
should we stop to fight or just run?
timber shoal
They can spawn on top of you if you run fast enough, so there's that
if host’s separate from the group maybe
tiny wyvern
should we stop to fight or just run?
Kill the ones blocking your way if you have the ammo and then slowly push forward with your team if you're pubbing
timber shoal
idk if the speed at which you run affects whether spawns happen on top of you
copper rivet
it was just insane how different those two runs were. we've gotten good enough at the level that we can just fly through everything without issue up until the end and it seems like a huge toss up
tiny wyvern
If you aren't, do that if you're all low
tiny wyvern
it was just insane how different those two runs were. we've gotten good enough a...
Well, you're probably still scared of shadows/don't have a bio telling you when they're in your face
timber shoal
it was just insane how different those two runs were. we've gotten good enough a...
keep in mind you can always just run past the enemies
raven copper
idk if the speed at which you run affects whether spawns happen on top of you
when I run back to scan there is a possibility since im so far I get spawns in me its happened alot
timber shoal
when I run back to scan there is a possibility since im so far I get spawns in m...
oh fs
i just mean if you’re all together i don’t think the speed you progress at can result in shadows spawning on top of you
tiny wyvern
Like, not having bio warn you of peps in front of you really hurts on the runback, especially if you haven't ran it back twenty times and know where to expect them spawning
copper rivet
I was doing bio and it felt like I couldn't keep up with the scans both before and behind during our failed run
on the first run I scanned in front and we killed stuff as we went, ezpz
dreamy socket
I was doing bio and it felt like I couldn't keep up with the scans both before a...
I'm pretty sure there's ping cap
timber shoal
I'm pretty sure there's ping cap
prolly the cooldown fucking them over more
dreamy socket
Ah, fair
copper rivet
I definitely felt the pain of the cooldown on the failed attempt. the first run it wasn't an issue.
tiny wyvern
that
With shadows it's more important to know if they're coming at your face rather than where they are specifically, especially if you know what you're doing
raven copper
youd have to be walking for spawns to be in top of you forward an back
there is no way running youd get pincered ever
tiny wyvern
If you don't, have like two peps off bio take thermals and just have them take it out during the runback
raven copper
ive never had any issues even when running back alone that ive had them be forward an back on top of me
your either stopping to shoot them or walking
dreamy socket
your either stopping to shoot them or walking
Stopping to shoot is pretty common when new
tiny wyvern
Well, my issue usually stems from my love of machine pistol
And the fact that machine pistol doesn't do very well against shadows
raven copper
if your stopping to shoot your also probably taking way too long to kill them to begin with
dreamy socket
Well, my issue usually stems from my love of machine pistol
And the fact that ma...
I still do it sometimes and I got like 350hours
copper rivet
so if you stop you're inviting spawns from behiind? we were definitely getting bunched up
raven copper
yes
dreamy socket
Stopping to shoot is pretty common when new
Wrong reply
copper rivet
there seemed to be way more monsters in front on the way back, but we might have been going slower. we hauled cheeks on the first run
tiny wyvern
so if you stop you're inviting spawns from behiind? we were definitely getting b...
Just push up whenever you can
You don't want to stay still, but unless you're stupid good at it killing shadows still takes a minute
dreamy socket
there seemed to be way more monsters in front on the way back, but we might have...
Hauling ass is the way to go generally
raven copper
shadows are extremely slow so the only way yall had that many is you stopped waaaaaay too much or jus walked
copper rivet
ok. I will bring this wisdom back
I feel bad cuz we cleared this one and blasted through the first 3 levels of the 2nd rundown with ease lol
my buddy missed our triumphant victory and the beginning of r2
tiny wyvern
Also as time goes on you'll get so used to killing shadows you learn kind of how to avoid dying to them
raven copper
so the first 2 of r2 are gonna be easier than r1d1
dreamy socket
Also as time goes on you'll get so used to killing shadows you learn kind of how...
I still do 🥀
tiny wyvern
Just wait till you get to R2D1
It'll be fun!
If the game doesn't gas you up too much
dreamy socket
2d1 is so fire low-key
raven copper
r2d1 solo diving cells is fun
copper rivet
it was crazy the difference between the end of 1 and the beginning of 2
the letters apparently make a huge difference
tiny wyvern
the letters apparently make a huge difference
Yes
raven copper
yes
timber shoal
just wait till you see an e tier
tiny wyvern
All A levels are meant to be intro levels
copper rivet
new mechanics, etc
raven copper
just wait till you see an e tier
2
tiny wyvern
And all E levels are designed to faq you
dreamy socket
just wait till you see an e tier
2e1 easy trust
tiny wyvern
The higher the number, the more complex mechanically the game gets
The higher the letter, the more you'll get faqed
timber shoal
2e1 easy trust
if you know what you're doing its not the worst thing ever
tiny wyvern
That sort of logic
timber shoal
its not a very fun level though imo
tiny wyvern
'Just ladderfoam trust'
ebon light
we are all taking foam boosters and 2 hel autos
raven copper
foam boosters with no foam
dreamy socket
'Just ladderfoam trust'
Pub w/ ladderfoam fix trust
tiny wyvern
Tbh most pubs die on final cell plug rather than the ||surges|| or the ||error|| if they manage to get ||baby||
raven copper
damn left my foam at the gas station gotta go back
tiny wyvern
Because they just... can't find it?
I should know, I still can't find it sometimes on the best of days
ebon light
rhe surge thats the issue is the one during error
copper rivet
thanks for the advice all. takeaways then for r1d2- run as fast as possible, only fight if you have to, you are faster than the shadows
dreamy socket
Basically, ya.
tiny wyvern
thanks for the advice all. takeaways then for r1d2- run as fast as possible, onl...
Good luck
copper rivet
If we had the same rng the second time it would have been another easy clear, but it sounds like our behavior caused the awkward spawning
tiny wyvern
Also when you eventually gets stuck on R2D2 and R2E1 don't be afraid to skip them for the time being
Don't burn yourself out on them
copper rivet
oh geeze
that sounds horrible haha
I'm still glad that most of our party finished the first rundown. loving r2 so far.
tiny wyvern
that sounds horrible haha
Nah, just a common recommendation from peps around here for beginners
They are arse to get through, but they are also difficulty tweaks
Something the game will throw at you quite a bit
So it's important to know when to call it quits and move on for the time being
copper rivet
cool, good to know. I felt obligated to complete it straight through, this is good to know
timber shoal
in order 🥺
ebon light
in order is the pub trap
timber shoal
its what i did for the most part
ebon light
you fell for the pub trap 🫡
ocean spindle
1 3 2 6 7 4 5 8
like sure but also it is kinda hard to explain as to why and people dont wanna just follow a set of instructions
ebon light
doomed forever
ocean spindle
in orrder but skippin when u get stuck is fine
ebon light
like sure but also it is kinda hard to explain as to why and people dont wanna j...
well yeah its just my order
ocean spindle
leaving r8 to the end
ebon light
vaguely what I did
timber shoal
you fell for the pub trap 🫡
well it made me better at the game imo
ocean spindle
i do think hardforcing the order is is, not ideal
tacit cedar
just have a friend drag you into shit like r6c2 when you have 10 hours on the game
(my experience)
ocean spindle
so bad
ebon light
my first completed level was 4b2 🥹
ocean spindle
if ur the gamer that takes newies to e tiers, abandon gtfo fuck u i dont lik eu
ocean spindle
r4b1
ebon light
yea r4b1 was my first completion in gtfo
balmy sedge
Also when you eventually gets stuck on R2D2 and R2E1 don't be afraid to skip the...
i didnt know this is an option. ty game for explaning this to me 😄
is there any reason to do them in order then, or ppl just like their ABC-s?
ocean spindle
is there any reason to do them in order then, or ppl just like their ABC-s?
uh the rundowns? they go by introducing stuff moderately nice on pace even when thhe difficultys not in order per se
so skipping when it gets too intense just gives u a break to be better and come back to it later
only exception is r8 which should be left for last
balmy sedge
ah, ok. i was going by letters. it is realy hard from D-s
ocean spindle
oh
the letters yes they go in order, a is easiest E is hardest
usually is better to complete a tier before moving on, like doing B1, B2 and B3 before C1 for example
final terrace
i mean, the game forces you to do the letters in order
raven copper
ye but doesnt stop people from joining d tier pubs when they are only at A
burnt inlet
^
raven copper
is r5c2 really that hard of a pe
like ig out of all of them its probably harder than most
frail heart
call me r5c2
raven copper
call me r4c3 the way im harder than you
minor fractal
is r5c2 really that hard of a pe
What would you replace w/, though?
R8C1 I'd switch w/ R6C3 maybe
raven copper
ye like theres not really that tuff of pes to really replace it not i think
like maybe r8c1 ig
minor fractal
I think if you are avoiding that/playing normally
tardy ingot
the tank fights in R6C3 > R8C1
and everything else in R8C1 is just kinda fine since no pressure
cedar heath
top 5 most difficult secondary?
frail heart
not in order: r4e1, r8e2, r5d1, r8d2, r8b4
assuming class 9 r8d2
i cant think of others ngl
cedar heath
for intermediate players I'd think about r6d2
ripe hamlet
r6d2sec is kinda painful fr
raven copper
class 9 r8d2 is easy vro
frail heart
for intermediate players I'd think about r6d2
all the ones i listed are harder
cedar heath
all the ones i listed are harder
True. I'd keep it as honourable mention
raven copper
but the thing is you can cancel the corrupt link
so its jus like a hard flyer alarm an a tank
so the secondary isn't that hard if you do that
cedar heath
You can cancel the uplink alarm with the error alarm shutdown?
raven copper
yes
I did true duo with dodo an thats what we did
ventilation system into flyer alarm into error cancel for uplink
tardy ingot
r6d2 corrupt link is brutal ngl
you simply gotta know the strat and its 100% consistent
no shooting necessary aside from some flyer shooting range
raven copper
I was more so thinking about the true duo for it cause thats what I did recently xd
but again you can jus cancel it so like
ebon light
r7b3 sec sucks
raven copper
that one pe sucks ass
ripe hamlet
shooting the corrupted uplink true duo is true pain and misery
flat river
do you want to get fog turbine in R4D2 when doing PE? feels like it helps, but forces to clear more rooms + extra alarm, so less resources
but makes fog not a big deal
upbeat flame
no just go fast
tardy ingot
do you want to get fog turbine in R4D2 when doing PE? feels like it helps, but f...
Going faster > turbine
upbeat flame
doing a surge for that fog aint worth
flat river
but when you will go back for cargo, won't you have to go through fog then?
and full infected on low HP will have to fight shadows
upbeat flame
yeah you jus gotta tank that
fathom ice
like your plan is to get a shadow cap behind you and close all the doors on them
so you just fight nothing at extract
upbeat flame
the hard part is getting out of ovl, but if you can do that shadows usually back spawn and then you can close doors to stall
cedar heath
what about double alarms?
fathom ice
wdym
upbeat flame
you mean extract alarm doing chargers?
cedar heath
start both surge and charger alarm, scanning surge alarm first, then chargers alarm
upbeat flame
for the fog turbine?
upbeat flame
I mean it's an interesting strat, can't say I've done it
ripe hamlet
doing side zones in that lvl arent worth it
just go fast
and foam doors for shadow spawn cap
you only need one person in extract anyway
just kite around if the door breaks
ebon light
where even is it
upbeat flame
There’s some side zone on the cluster 5 I think?
upbeat flame
Gotta go to 95 to get a cell to go to 97 iirc
raven copper
somewhere there ye
civic wave
i have done cell into double alarm for turbine, it's okay i guess
gets you some bonus resources but doesn't feel like much of anythinf
you're probably tanking infection anyway at the end
cedar heath
speaking of fog tanking, would you consider it in r7b3 pe?
raven copper
I wouldn't cause chargers
gotta be cracked out on Adderall to have one person not get touched while carrying cargo for that long i feel
bios gotta be going crazy too
actually maybe if your like set on hp
upbeat flame
we took 2 bios 1 sentry 1 mine iirc
burnt inlet
we took 2 bios 1 sentry 1 mine iirc
Lowkey i see the vision
minor fractal
What even are the essential components of GTFO that mean there are no analogous titles at all?
Is it just combinatorics?
I feel like it should be possible to pick just slightly different features to get a GTFO feel, surely.
ripe hamlet
stealth
ripe hamlet
its true
hard nexus
the only remotely similar vibe a game has is space beast terror fright but its without stealth
safe cradle
Exactly like GTFO nah
you can perhaps get something similar under some circumstances in certain games
burnt inlet
I think hk is a gtfo copy
sick mauve
i thought that marathon had gtfo-like aesthetics but it’s a fucking pvp extraction shooter so fuck that
hard nexus
nah not at all id say
safe cradle
What even are the essential components of GTFO that mean there are no analogous ...
Realistically, GTFO's main point (I know it can get memed by knowing what to do and how to do it) would have been stealth
hard nexus
i dont think it is tbh
safe cradle
Taking something that has barely any correlation at all, like DRG, it has zero of those mechanics (I'll admit I played it last like 4 years ago)
sick mauve
alarms / bioscans 🙂
hard nexus
in drg u have a sense of camaraderie between dwarves
safe cradle
Enemies spawn technically in a silent state and there's a censored word all mechanic to wake them up based on proximity, walking, shooting, another enemy shouting, if that's not intent I dont know what it is
hard nexus
in gtfo there is the whole narrative vibe of combat ready (military?) dudes who are loosely familiar with each other navigating pitch dark places with fucked up monsters having to teamwork it out, stealth is just a bonus
safe cradle
It IS a big part of the game even if you can ignore it or work around it once you know how to do so
hard nexus
this is why sbtf has the closest vibe u get overrun by xenomorphs
safe cradle
I'll tell you what, Manbarondenna, go in the GTFO store page. I'm pretty sure there's still that pre-alpha image of the HUD and a shotgun
The shotgun in question had 8/128 shells
I think the game got reworked along the lines to have some less "horde shooter" vibes
Ok that has nothing to do with the topic
No idea why I brought it up
But I still think stealth's a big component of what makes GTFO what it is
hard nexus
until it isnt
safe cradle
I mean what would work then? It being ALL stealth?
Of course it deviates but I think it IS a big part of the game
hard nexus
but does it define it
safe cradle
I cant think of another game that has the same "mix" of mechanics
hard nexus
u know i never restarted if we failed stealth in payday 2
for me this loop of stealth if u can until u have to do an alarm is perfection
safe cradle
but does it define it
At the very least it's 50% of it
safe cradle
u know i never restarted if we failed stealth in payday 2
eh payday2... you can change difficulty there, and even going by the analogy, stealth IS a big part of that game
There's stealth only heists IIRC
hard nexus
aka useless updates
safe cradle
🤣
hard nexus
loud only gamers rise up
safe cradle
car dealer heist is stealth only IIRC
hard nexus
so is shadow raid
like i said
useless updates
and god forbid u want to drive in a shooter game based on racing game engine
safe cradle
I hoped that 2d game would have evolved into GTFO but 2D
But it's abandoned I think
Cant remember the name
Deep below or some shit like that
hard nexus
alarms / bioscans 🙂
this too
the whole biocom lorely reflecting whats happening in the actual game 1:1 is osm
safe cradle
eh
minor fractal
Ig GTFO stealth is just really unique
and Witch is the only similarity to other horde shooters
sick mauve
there’s something very methodical and satisfying running around full speed clearing a room without pulling it
marble heron
Running at full speed and clearing a room is possible. But it's not something everyone can do, and certainly a skill earned with playtime. I think that's how it should be.
tiny wyvern
Running at full speed and clearing a room is possible. But it's not something ev...
No one's disagreeing with you I think?
Is there supposed to be a convo somewhere I didn't follow?
livid stone
Using spear and being effective is possible. But it's not something everyone can do, and certainly a skill earned with playtime. I think that's how it should be.
ripe hamlet
Using shotgun sentry and being effective is possible. But it's not something everyone can do, and certainly a skill earned with playtime. I think that's how it should be.
raven copper
Using veruta and being effective is possible. But it's not something everyone can do, and certainly a skill earned with playtime. I think that's how it should be.
ebon light
Using arbalist and being effective is possible. But it's not something everyone can do, and certainly a skill earned with playtime. I think that's how it should be.
tacit cedar
Using burst pistol and being effective is possible. But it's not something everyone can do, and certainly a skill earned with playtime. I think that's how it should be.
frail heart
Using short rifle and being effective is possible. But it's not something everyone can do, and certainly a skill earned with playtime. I think that's how it should be.
prime musk
Using brain and being effective is possible. But it's not something everyone can do, and certainly a skill earned with playtime. I think that's how it should be.
tiny wyvern
what... is this?
civic wave
zed speaking the gospel we all need to hear 
tardy ingot
Using the information the game gives you aswell as guides is possible.
But it‘s not something everyone can do, and certainly a skill learned with playtime. I think that’s how it should be
civic wave
Saving 500ms by running in a straighter line is possible. But it's not something everyone can do, and certainly a skill earned with playtime. I think that's how it should be.
frail heart
most accurate tutorial statement
flat river
Using shotgun sentry and being effective is possible. But it's not something eve...
nah, impossible
black hole for resources
burnt inlet
Using the information the game gives you aswell as guides is possible.
But it‘s ...
👉👦is that you
little pilot
Spreading missinfo and being effective is possible. But it's not something everyone can do, and certainly a skill earned with playtime. I think that's how it should be.
frail heart
Spreading toxicity and being effective is possible. But it's not something everyone can do, and certainly a skill earned with playtime. I think that's how it should be.
wait thats fire
winter breach
Spreading unfunny jokes is not funny
winter breach
not the gif i meant to send but it works
Lazy bum
frail heart
winter breach
https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-random-kid-random-kid-gif-10698606526004...
Bro doesnt snow
frail heart
ripe hamlet
Spreading toxicity and being effective is possible. But it's not something every...
sam db
ripe hamlet
https://tenor.com/view/donut-and-bread-arguing-donut-bread-surreal-memes-meme-gi...
put it in already
burnt inlet
https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-random-kid-random-kid-gif-10698606526004...
Number one spear glazer that's who they are
frail heart
put it in already
pause what
winter breach
https://tenor.com/view/donut-and-bread-arguing-donut-bread-surreal-memes-meme-gi...
We just sending random memes atp
frail heart
We just sending random memes atp
burnt inlet
We just sending random memes atp
frail heart
stolen
ripe hamlet
not my clippy
burnt inlet
not my clippy
My bad
ripe hamlet
frail heart
Yall aint original
burnt inlet
little pilot
Just like you stole my speed gif
omg romania numerul 1 mention?????
burnt inlet
frail heart
omg romania numerul 1 mention?????
Dă-mi portofelul tău 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
little pilot
Dă-mi portofelul tău 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
steals ur wallet cutely
burnt inlet
frail heart
burnt inlet
youre getting clicker trained diddyblud
My fucking galaxy pen is clicker training me istg
winter breach
My fucking galaxy pen is clicker training me istg
ripe hamlet
probably some drug
frail heart
galaxy bug
burnt inlet
Ok my bad s pen
winter breach
Ok my bad s pen
Yes your bad
burnt inlet
Never had a samsung before
frail heart
what is that cuh
burnt inlet
Yes your bad
burnt inlet
what is that cuh
Got a pen in my phone
burnt inlet
No its s pen
burnt inlet
In settings its called s pen at least
winter breach
aint that shit called a stylus?
It is
ripe hamlet
where the b d and m pen
winter breach
Another sam db joke
burnt inlet
winter breach
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1457236316705001494/1482143179154129047...
Yes you made them go away with your aura
ripe hamlet
stink
winter breach
From hk?
burnt inlet
Yes
winter breach
Defenders crest or something like that
Yeah its defenders crest
It combos with spore shroom
dreamy socket
flukenest combos with everything
ripe hamlet
glowing what
winter breach
Yes
winter breach
glowing what
Glowing spear
balmy sedge
uhhhm is this normal?
xd
ocean spindle
they just fighting over its contents
ocean spindle
yeah sounds like it shouldnt - maybs its just them being funny try to reset them
balmy sedge
ye, if it keeps happening i investigate more. thx
ripe hamlet
what is drop item fixed
uneven kiln
ye, if it keeps happening i investigate more. thx
install memoryleakfix and gluefix at least too
with memory leaks the bots can just stop functioning, not step in scans, not place tools, not grab or use items
this will also apply to player sentries target acqusition
balmy sedge
i have that, i just installed these 3 before they stopped working. might be just silly bot behaviour tho
flat river
With what weapons you can kill cursed scout without making him scream?
I mean black scout with horns and whatever he have, not sure how it called
ocean spindle
cursed ksksks
flat river
Just calling all such enemies cursed ones
ocean spindle
_ohhhh cursed scout uhhh ur cursed :3 _
but every 30 dmg weaponn can in the back, cnter square in the back, fuster s probs writing th full list
i imagine
carmine grotto
I mean black scout with horns and whatever he have, not sure how it called
Charger scouts can be killed most easily with the
Scatter Gun, making sure you're close enough,
Hel Rifle, provided you shoot them from behind,
Sniper, behind like HR.
You can kill then with other weapons/double melee, but these 3 are typically seen as the easiest way to deal with them. (Assuming you aren't using C-Foam)
ocean spindle
theres a lot of 30 dmg guns in the game so probs more than what u think
if u wanna silent kill them u can also foam it and hit it
which is usually the easiest-ish way to dispatch
carmine grotto
theres a lot of 30 dmg guns in the game so probs more than what u think
Revo killing them is funny, but rough without the muscle memory lol
ocean spindle
tho u might not always have the launcher
ocean spindle
Revo killing them is funny, but rough without the muscle memory lol
uh why would u do that lol
i meant stuff like high cal or shotgun qwq
carmine grotto
uh _why would u do that lol_
You can only play R3D1 the same way so many times lol
ocean spindle
play r3c1 ✨
meager mortar
you can RNG kill them with hel gun to back if you're bored
ocean spindle
you can RNG kill them with hel gun to back if you're bored
not rng if ur fast enough... i thhink
its weird
carmine grotto
play r3c1 ✨
Not on the list of levels we typically cycle
ocean spindle
but its dangerous
ocean spindle
Not on the list of levels we typically cycle
:[
flat river
so basically even sawed-off, if all pallets hit, can kill them in the back? or there is enough time to double tap?
meager mortar
not rng if ur fast enough... i thhink
its RNG, the hel gun shot delay is faster then a long alert timer and slower than the short alert timer iirc
ocean spindle
so basically even sawed-off, if all pallets hit, can kill them in the back? or t...
it should but u can double tap just to be safe
ocean spindle
its RNG, the hel gun shot delay is faster then a long alert timer and slower tha...
a i was unsure of the values, das shit :D
meager mortar
so basically even sawed-off, if all pallets hit, can kill them in the back? or t...
i mag dump to be safe
burst cannon is also a really safe option on c-scouts and it's probably more common than sniper kills
flat river
and cursed... charger enemies don't have weakpoints at all? only x2 in the back and thats it?
ocean spindle
yes
for all intends and purposes
they are one big torso
shooting the head does absolutely nothing, nor lowers dmg nor ups it
flat river
I like prec rifle against regular chargers, kills in two hits from big range
you hit head, they rotate in 180 and then hit back
ocean spindle
weird it should do a 3 tap, since animations dont affect the position of the enmy
maybe ur teammates are helping u
flat river
weird it should do a 3 tap, since animations dont affect the position of the enm...
huh
ocean spindle
it has 13 dmg
flat river
ok, need to retry, but I remember 2 hits and quite often
ocean spindle
u can probs drop solo into r1c2 and check
but i think only hel gun double taps cuz of the 15 breakpoint
i dont remember another gun that has that kind of dmg
oh - slug shotgun but its slow
meager mortar
my main issue with prec rifle is that if i'm killing chargers, im usually killing a lot of chargers, and hopefully in a line
there's not a ton of scenarios where i wouldn't want hel gun over prec, or hel rifle to deal with them
ocean spindle
normal shohttie i enjoy on closer quarter lvls
plus a main that helps me finish em off in case pellets fuck me
a la hel autopiss
:]
minor fractal
ok, need to retry, but I remember 2 hits and quite often
Modded?
If you have chip damage from some source, they live 2 shots w/ 4 HP.
flat river
If you have chip damage from some source, they live 2 shots w/ 4 HP.
maybe the case, will check in evening
timber shoal
I have mods, but doubt that they affect dmg or anything like this
do you have the backdamage mod
or something
idk what its called
ocean spindle
wouldnt b surprised if it was the bots
timber shoal
wouldnt b surprised if it was the bots
only thing that would make sense tbh
unless we’ve got boba #2 here
ripe hamlet
maybe youre just goated and time the hit right when the anim update
its probably just betterbot helping out
upbeat flame
do you have the backdamage mod
Wait which one is that specifically?
timber shoal
Wait which one is that specifically?
accurate back damage i think is the name of the mod
but what it does is make the visual back of the enemy be treated as the actual back of the enemy
so when a charger spins when its staggered you can shoot it mid spin to deal back damage and 2 tap it with prec rifle
upbeat flame
Ah I gotta tell my friends about that, I did use to run it for like r1 and some of r2 but then dialed down the qol mod pack to smaller things
Granted I don’t really think we take weapons that take advantage of that too much?
ripe hamlet
charger spin anim is kinda weird
i sometimes feel like i get back dmg when they spin as well
for bbc anyway
timber shoal
for bbc you can
you break one limb, break another mid spin and it causes the facing direction to update to be facing away so your third shot kills
timber shoal
assuming hel rifle yes
ocean spindle
naah chokmod
timber shoal
or any 30 dmg weapon
ocean spindle
nah double tap helgun
ripe hamlet
whats limb hp for bbc
ripe hamlet
ngl i used to think for the longest time that bbc health is 150
upbeat flame
Is it not?
timber shoal
120
ripe hamlet
its 120
upbeat flame
That’s giant health right?
keen seal
basically the same stats as the giant across the board
keen seal
without like woah the 1.5 head multi
upbeat flame
I thought they would be a bit tanker considering the change from strikers to chargers
prime musk
for bbc you can
you can for small chargers as well it's just that
The damage required to spin is so low
that it's just never fucking worth it
timber shoal
right
upbeat flame
accurate back damage i think is the name of the mod
Does it do anything like that bad outside of chargers and prec rifle?
Like any actual game breaking things?
minor fractal
Does it do anything like that bad outside of chargers and prec rifle?
It changes how a lot of stuff plays
like stealth
Overall buff to knife ig
timber shoal
it’s just gonna be a lot easier to benefit from back damage
lowkey can you kill cscouts from the front with hel rifle if they’re bent over?
burnt inlet
lowkey can you kill cscouts from the front with hel rifle if they’re bent over?
prolly not
timber shoal
because their visual back would be exposed
ripe hamlet
its still going to use the orientation vector to calculate the back dmg no?
ripe hamlet
it just makes it accurate with the animation
burnt inlet
^ this is what i heard
upbeat flame
Honestly I don’t think it’s gonna be that big a deal if they keep it on cuz I don’t think they know how to manipulate it to be that important imma just keep my mouth shut
Assuming it’s a client side thing anyways
timber shoal
yeah it probably wont have too big an impact on your gameplay
prime musk
it genuinely makes charger stealth (and to a degree, all stealth) harder
but apart from that it's really whatever
you don't really get any chance to "abuse" the mod if you don't REALLY know what you're doing and even then it's pretty niche
civic wave
ooooh charger animation discourse, it's like r5c2gate is back
inspecting pub in replay to determine if they're a cheater
flat river
maybe the case, will check in evening
yeah, 3 shots
seems like someone from team gave dmg to thouse I thought I two-shot
sadge
game have so many things wrong mechanic wise
timber shoal
game have so many things wrong mechanic wise
wdym?
grizzled patrol
lowkey can you kill cscouts from the front with hel rifle if they’re bent over?
no