gtfo-related-questions

[ripe hamlet]

r4b2?

[timber shoal]

yes

[mystic rock]

https://tenor.com/view/кот-котик-говоришь-дачтотыговоришь-gif-25030651

[fathom ice]

buh

[keen seal]

sky

translate

[ripe hamlet]

that 3 way alarm is actually painful

[fathom ice]

what are you saying

[timber shoal]

its fun to pull all three at once

fight a class whatever spawn cap alarm

[ripe hamlet]

nah im not talking about the overload

[frail heart]

[ripe hamlet]

im talking about the alarm in tiny room with 3 paths

overload is w/e

[timber shoal]

oh that ones not bad with bio

[flat river]

I mean we almost beat level even with inserting two cells, but we first go to upper zone where is extra. Its just you can randomly die or aggro all room because you can't see...

will try without inserting, should be much easier

[timber shoal]

it will be

[ripe hamlet]

i tried bringing hel rifle but its just so painful when you have bad scan

[timber shoal]

yeah i think we did like combat shotgun and hel gun

[ripe hamlet]

yeah thats a better idea

[flat river]

don't remember such?

[prime musk]

you just
funnel any side
and play scatter

[timber shoal]

already beat the level so not really relevant

[ripe hamlet]

scatter for r4b2 is kinda crazy

[frail heart]

just shoot bro its not that hard

just dont get hit

[flat river]

oh ok I get which one

we defended it with 2 cells inserted

it was crazy

[frail heart]

idek what alarm that is

[timber shoal]

only alarm with fog if you;ve got 0 cells plugged

[flat river]

not the only one

[frail heart]

the key door?

[timber shoal]

what alarm

[timber shoal]

yes

[frail heart]

they only come from the stairs doe

[timber shoal]

which other one goes in fog

[ripe hamlet]

the only one without fog

[timber shoal]

french kiss soloes

[ripe hamlet]

the fog one is just bio

[prime musk]

no? there's plenty of giants and stuff and everything small is knifeable

[ripe hamlet]

fair

the alarm tiles are also pretty up close and personal

[flat river]

this one, yeah?

[ripe hamlet]

you lose the blinding alarm pen line tho

[frail heart]

the doctor knifed my balls

[timber shoal]

no

[ripe hamlet]

yeah that one

[timber shoal]

?

is it?

[ripe hamlet]

that one doesnt have fog

[flat river]

it is the only one small with 3 pathes

[ripe hamlet]

one blinding alarm is the other one

[flat river]

it had after we inserted two cells...

poor us

[ripe hamlet]

oof

[timber shoal]

the west zone alarm is the one with fog if you have no cells plugged

[frail heart]

you just open the 2 middle doors

and then diddy blud pen

[timber shoal]

hel auto at top of stairs eats half the wave

so full and round of strikers

[burnt inlet]

Me when 15 strikers spawn closer to one of the closed doors

[flat river]

ok just won't plug cells and it should be easy, will try today

just ruined runs for ourselves

[burnt inlet]

I wouldn't say easy, level is hard for a first clear

[ripe hamlet]

its the hardest alarm of the lvl imo

everything else is ezclap

[burnt inlet]

I see it

[frail heart]

i think fog alarm is harder

[burnt inlet]

But this^

[timber shoal]

that is the fog alarm 😭

[burnt inlet]

No?

[ripe hamlet]

dodo tweaking out

[burnt inlet]

Dodo

[flat river]

we lost already three times and only after third noticed that fog increases after we put two cells.

we know basically everything there, so should be easy

[frail heart]

dodo trippin albanian style

[timber shoal]

ok what the fuck are we even talking about

maybe i kill myself

[burnt inlet]

Ur pubbing out

[ripe hamlet]

the humble overload:

[timber shoal]

are we talking about the class 4 or the class three or something in overload

[frail heart]

https://tenor.com/view/britt-lower-no-dont-kys-youre-so-sexy-aha-meme-sevtwt-gif-12570847371344619410

[burnt inlet]

Eh there's the optional too

[flat river]

we did them

[ripe hamlet]

you did overload before completing main?

[frail heart]

you do that yes

[mystic rock]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1219742341682696307/1222736559728623627/copy_B290BD4E-1A42-4BBA-B0C8-B16B974E7941.gif

[flat river]

for moms there tons of c-foam granades so not the issue

[flat river]

yes

we first go to upper room

[burnt inlet]

Well you do overload after leaving all cells close to gen cluster no?

[frail heart]

having to go into mom zone is a rip

[ripe hamlet]

going into mom zone is just for funsies

[frail heart]

teeheer

[flat river]

we clear 4 lvl alarm + room without alarm, idk what is under room with alarm 6

[burnt inlet]

Like giants or smth iirc

[frail heart]

usually you do the 2 alarms

[cedar heath]

a humble gun has to disagree about this xD

[frail heart]

like da blood door and the other one

and the other one

and yeah

[flat river]

but moms easy with foam, no?

[frail heart]

you pretty much never have to go into mommy

[flat river]

we just throw granade and making mess from her

[ripe hamlet]

messing up mom is worse than messing up normal rooms

[burnt inlet]

Mom is high risk low reward imo

[timber shoal]

does rng affect the osip spawns btw

i don’t remember

[flat river]

but man, lvl 6 alarm...

[burnt inlet]

Press 3 then m1

[safe cradle]

In OG, mom zone was sometimes needed to get necesarry glp/osip/whatever number

[flat river]

in that big room...

[timber shoal]

they funnel through one door

[safe cradle]

not sure about Alt

[timber shoal]

two sentries murder everything

[frail heart]

balls

[timber shoal]

thank you frosty

[burnt inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-baller-roblox-baller-baller-guy-ballers-gif-26937843

[ripe hamlet]

get used to it

[frail heart]

i remember my gay furry friend sending me that

[safe cradle]

If you get stuck at that alarm but manage to finish Overload, I've no idea what to tell you, usually it's the other way around with Overload's beeeeg 3 way room fucking pubs up

[timber shoal]

diddyblud forgot what was in r2b1

[ripe hamlet]

alarm number is just w/e

[timber shoal]

so moth

[flat river]

room is too big with ups and downs and you just ruuun

[burnt inlet]

Im not gay

[frail heart]

wrong

[ripe hamlet]

the true difficulty is more from enemy type and tiles

[burnt inlet]

Lesbian smh

[timber shoal]

yes you are foid

[ripe hamlet]

foil

[timber shoal]

lesbians are gay

[burnt inlet]

Dodo not keeping up with the lore

[frail heart]

aluminium

[ripe hamlet]

moth is for cooking

[burnt inlet]

Aluminimimum

[frail heart]

so we're sexist

[flat river]

last time we didn't even had to fight mom, we just stealth while one was defending from error

[frail heart]

alriggggggggght

[timber shoal]

yes

i hate women

[ripe hamlet]

moth belongs in the kitchen

[burnt inlet]

So the joke is flying over our heads

Alriiiiiiite

[frail heart]

So the joke is flying over our heads

moth thought i was serious

burn him at the stake!

[ripe hamlet]

typical

[burnt inlet]

I snow you wasnt

[ripe hamlet]

wahman amirite

[frail heart]

throw him in the river

[ripe hamlet]

☕

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/pvz-plants-vs-zombies-plants-vs-zombies-2-gif-15065461205447550663

[burnt inlet]

Agreed

[frail heart]

TAKE ACTION REGARDING THAT INDIVIDUAL

https://tenor.com/view/take-action-regarding-that-individual-gif-5822318614821970158

[raven copper]

THE ARCHITECT AN THE BUILDER

[timber shoal]

hey just so you know we have to stop spreading misinformation about how fog works

zed said so

it was fun while it lasted

[frail heart]

make sure not to say foid bro

[burnt inlet]

I love misinfo

[raven copper]

I haven't said anything about fog what😭

[frail heart]

FUCKING HELL SNIFF

[raven copper]

ok ill stop saying foid

WAIT FUCK

[burnt inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/416907525460590593/1479977150781325475/2026-02-27_22-29-12_online-video-cutter.com_1.gif

[frail heart]

bro i prefired ur ass

[raven copper]

mmmmmfffffffrr

[burnt inlet]

I think he'd enjoy that

[ripe hamlet]

you can disperse fog with plantern

[timber shoal]

and temporarily remove it with blover

[ripe hamlet]

real and true

[burnt inlet]

Anyone up blowing?

[timber shoal]

which also has the added benefit of removing balloon zombies

[frail heart]

i like how you can beat 95% of pvz2 with the zap plant

[burnt inlet]

Supplies!!!!!!

[ripe hamlet]

^^^pro tip

[timber shoal]

what, lightning reed?

[burnt inlet]

Least brainrotted gameplay

[frail heart]

yeah

its literally OP

[timber shoal]

i think you can beat the majority of pvz2 with most plants tbh

[burnt inlet]

Sunflower only

[frail heart]

lightning reed is like actually OP tho

they use it in speedrun afaik

[raven copper]

WAIT WAIT FROSTY FROSTY

[timber shoal]

are you referencing a video actually

[burnt inlet]

Speedrun ahh plant

[flat river]

you see like NOTHING

and now in recording I saw that we plugged three cells LOL

[raven copper]

what pvz plant would you be only including og first pvz an pvz 2

[frail heart]

what.

[burnt inlet]

Frosty would be uhhhh

[ripe hamlet]

garlic

[frail heart]

fuck you

[keen seal]

lmao

[burnt inlet]

The growing sunflower producer thingies

[timber shoal]

frosty gives like

[ripe hamlet]

maybe if you shower first

[timber shoal]

kernel-pult vibes

[frail heart]

hypnoshroom

[raven copper]

THERES NO WAY VRO

[burnt inlet]

That's taken already sorry

[frail heart]

i fucking showered last month cunt

[ripe hamlet]

gg

[frail heart]

yeah by me

[frail heart]

what

[burnt inlet]

No me an sniff are sharing

[frail heart]

i scare all the huzz away

[raven copper]

I asked dodo this on my way to class an I said the same thing then j asked moth an they said the same thing😭

[frail heart]

LMAO

[keen seal]

https://tenor.com/view/yungviral-gif-9161967965362335111

[frail heart]

hypnoshroom is goated

[ripe hamlet]

everything thinks they a hipster apparently

[burnt inlet]

Its cuz we like transform em

[timber shoal]

hypnoshroom is goated

[raven copper]

hypnoshroom is so cool

[frail heart]

hypnoshroom is the woke trans liberal of pvz

[timber shoal]

lowkey frosty you;re kinda starfruit core

[mystic rock]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-komaru-ебатьтыдаун-gif-26529853

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/hypno-shroom-pvz-plants-vs-zombies-goodnight-good-night-gif-9060336813500149982

[frail heart]

ongg

[keen seal]

call me the split pea cuz I hate miners

[raven copper]

starfruit is a really cool on i forgor about

[timber shoal]

starfruit’s one of my favorite plants in modded pvz2 highkey

[raven copper]

call me the walnut the way im big an round

[frail heart]

im one of those fucking OP hybrid plants from uhhh plants vs unimaginable horrors or whatever its called

[frail heart]

FIRE

[raven copper]

ok now frosty

what kind of zombie would you be

same conditions

[frail heart]

wait pvz2 included?

[burnt inlet]

I would be uuuuuhhhh

Uuuuuuuhhh

[raven copper]

yes

og an 2

[frail heart]

hmm

[ripe hamlet]

im cattail

[raven copper]

w comms

[frail heart]

i would be the imitator plant cause im mysterious an shi

[ripe hamlet]

real asf

[raven copper]

good pull that one hasn't been said yet

[frail heart]

wait i gotta think more

wait im fucking stupid

i said another plant

and not a zombie

[raven copper]

I said the lead disco zombie cause he serves cunt, the dolphin zombie but jus tbe dolphin and the butter zombie

[frail heart]

nah bro im the fucking bungie zombie

[raven copper]

😭😭😭

I see the vision

[frail heart]

if you say the wizard i know ur the most annoying fucker ever

[raven copper]

nah disco zombie #1

https://tenor.com/view/disco-zombie-gif-16783530443923062332

[ripe hamlet]

jester + parasol 😍

[frail heart]

he gay asf

im the pterodactyl zombie

[raven copper]

OOOOOO I FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE

w pull

see these are the questions we needa start asking

[mystic rock]

michael jackson zomboni

[fathom ice]

zombyoni

[keen seal]

zomboss

[frail heart]

zomballs

[timber shoal]

dude i’ve got you on a shirt

[frail heart]

damn bro im so famous

[burnt inlet]

Im the fucking potato cuz I'm a fat round chudette

[raven copper]

cant have me on your shirt cause itd jus cover the entire thing

[uneven kiln]

All fabric ever woven in the history of humans would not be able to sufficiently cover

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/pvz-pvz-2-plants-vs-zombies-cabbage-pvz-gif-3379524358270703157

[flat river]

yeah, was easy

[raven copper]

game easy

[hard nexus]

Ружьё

[rapid kiln]

Anyone trying to form a team I'm from Usa

[raven copper]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[modest current]

some one new to the game here. I am trying to find out a primary gun for me to use, but I am having trouble identifying one. Are there any tips one may be able to give, or do the guns vary per map?

[hard nexus]

huh

just try them and stick to what u like

[raven copper]

all guns remain the same

you get every gun an tool immediately off rip

only unlockable stuff would be cosmetics

or boosters ig

[modest current]

i apologize i did not mean unlocks, i meant play styles. I do not know if thsi makes sense.

[raven copper]

wdym as in play styles?

like kill big things or be wave clear for small things

[modest current]

yes that is what i mean

[raven copper]

primarily best examples i can give would be like sawed off sniper so you can one shoot bigs to the head with sniper an a sawed off to hold your own against smalls or like sawed off hel rifle for all round wave clear

but since your new you dont really need to worry about that till way later

wanna jus worry bout getting the basics an what not down for now

the play styles will come as you get more knowledgeable an what not

[modest current]

i see thank you for the help

[raven copper]

jus play how youd like an test things out

[prime musk]

sawed off is the best main weapon. it has acceptable range and the greatest killing power of any main weapon, being good into every target in the game
hel revo and dmr have more range as medium-long range wave clear.
hel shotgun and hel autopistol are support weapons where you play to stagger enemies to keep your team safe. hel shotgun leans more into close range and kill power while autopistol leans into medium range and uptime

[raven copper]

have some fun with it till ya find something you like

[prime musk]

apart from this there aren't really any real playstyles

[raven copper]

thats also tru

[prime musk]

and in practice there is never a reason not to slot sawed off or hel shotgun (but don't let meta control you, play what is fun to you. all the guns mentioned are more than strong enough for everything in the game without any issues)

[raven copper]

jus play wtv ya like till ya learn the basics then can worry more about all that

cause none of that will make any sense until you learn the basics an fundamentals

[prime musk]

yee

[modest current]

understood

[raven copper]

yup glhf!!

[livid stone]

Forgot to mention slug shotgun, and short rifle

[sudden nexus]

what if i want to have fun in practice

[flat river]

Why sometimes missions have fog rep in loot, but there like no fog at all? I thought they give only what is needed? Faced this on R4B3

[mystic rock]

levels just have set consumables that are allowed to spawn, not all of them are correct but even without fog, fog repellors are worth taking

they're literally a better glowstick

gives off a huge dim light

[grizzled patrol]

Pretty Sure there are a couple of moms in overload

[flat river]

oh, yeah

so it was for them...

[cerulean fjord]

I tried to play with my friend, same network connection. nothing but lag.

is there issues with the game server?

[burnt inlet]

Johannesburg and Sydney are having problems

Other than that its going fine

[coral dune]

why is the hel auto pistol considered mid?

[little pilot]

It's not really mid.

It's one of the better main guns

Compared to sawed off and Hel shotty it is kinda weak

But that's because those guns are broken af

[ocean spindle]

cuz veryhing is mid against it

them

[timber shoal]

awaria time

[ocean spindle]

thank u cutiie ksmdkm

awwaia

wait

[ocean spindle]

is it only windows

dodo u fuck

smh

[timber shoal]

is it 😭

i didnt know

[ocean spindle]

yes qwwq

[timber shoal]

aw mane

[coral dune]

does carbine still shoot logs?

[raven copper]

???

[ocean spindle]

as in big huge dmg, yeah

i mean its ok dmg but yes

[minor fractal]

Mains don't do anything very special, so when some guns are a cut above the rest there's basically no reason to use anything else

HEL AP is just kind of low damage

[ocean spindle]

for fun ✨

das why i go pistol on r2b3 lol

[sick mauve]

theres basically no reason to have fun bc there are more optimal guns to shoot

[ocean spindle]

never have fun

[minor fractal]

Never said anything about picking for fun

There is no reason metagame-wise to pick anything else

this isn't true of specials

Pick variety can be a lot higher because those guns have more significant differences

[dreamy socket]

Just run what's fun imo. Better than metagame all the time

[minor fractal]

A lot of the super weak stuff is kind of boring

[ocean spindle]

ik im jestin just cuz u said "no reason"

[minor fractal]

There's like 5 variants of "bullet hose that struggles to kill things"

Which is just not that fun to play

[ocean spindle]

i think fun its a lot less... objective to discuss

i enjoy 2 of those 5 on v specific occasions

[minor fractal]

I think it is objectively not as much variety

There are larger differences between weapons that are more impactful because those impacts are different

Vs. if a weapon isn't very impactful, the trade-offs aren't altering the gameplay as much

Or they do so in a non-interesting way, like randomly running out of ammo if the specific guns have really bad eco.

[ocean spindle]

for me fun depends way more on 2 factors, how good am i with it and just feeling - sound recoil reload etc

hel and hel rifle i straight cannot play cuz i do trackpad

so i cannot readjust my aim while chargin up the shot

so they are unfun

[upper ginkgo]

surely a mouse is dirt cheap

[ocean spindle]

meanwhile uh i dont like carbine cuz yuck

[ocean spindle]

no desk

i play on 2 places, a couch or a bed

[normal granite]

What the fuck

[ocean spindle]

i used to have a chair with a table on my side, were i reclined and used a mouse, but i left that room to sleep on a couch

so its been 2 3 years i dont play with a mouse

[upper ginkgo]

rip if I was in that position I'd give up on fps entirely and just play card games

[ocean spindle]

i have - i stopped playin a lot of games lol

just my hyperfixation for gtfo keeps and keeps goin

and dspite how bad it is to play for me i keep playin

[upper ginkgo]

lowk controller gaming is the way then

[ocean spindle]

with 1 hour limit, trackpad and my W and R keys broken

lol

[ocean spindle]

maybe but i never was a controller gamer

as a kid i only did nintendo so barely any fps

so i am god awful with a controller unless its nfs most wanted or smash bros

[upper ginkgo]

geforce gaming

[minor fractal]

I'll grant that for most players gaming ability or limited time investment means people won't spend much time with the majority of weapons. I just also don't think this is a good point in favor of weaker weapons. Pretty much everyone would be better off if they could play the entire arsenal, and I think they would gravitate towards slightly stronger picks if they had the experience to do so.

[sick mauve]

seven year old dead game moment

[minor fractal]

And from a balancing perspective, it's kind of bad for accessibility that guns are so stratified, especially w/ autos being generally weak.

[ocean spindle]

sawed off is v ez to use

tho

[minor fractal]

It's very popular for that, though.

[ocean spindle]

b but good

u know i am not gettin the point of this convo anymore lol i am too skill issue for this

i did a joke and then got taken seriously

[sick mauve]

something something the hit rundown quixotic

[upper ginkgo]

you should make a copypasta for this type of discussion

[ocean spindle]

something something the hit rundown occlusion

[upper ginkgo]

just like the lfg copypasta

[normal granite]

Woah no way

[ocean spindle]

"PICK WHAT U LIKE BUT IF U STRUGGLE USE SAWED OFF"
hows dat

[minor fractal]

I pivoted convo to this:

Which I think is true

[upper ginkgo]

something something play whatever gun you want but there is a gun meta and you will more likely succeed using the meta guns

[minor fractal]

Stronger guns tend to be more interesting to play

[upper ginkgo]

true

[minor fractal]

Sawed-off + utter dogshit clears

[safe cradle]

Noone really plays to lose, so it makes sense that if you play something that is hard to use well (be it skill-wise or simply the gun being bad) is not as enjoyable as meta-approved weapons

or simply that the two things overlap

[frail heart]

well i think this only really shows at a high level

beginners and intermediate players love their off-meta weapons

because a lot of them cant tell the difference

a lot of people will just do better using okay guns that they are comfortable with vs meta guns that they suck with

if they get to the point where they want to play meta then they will

[little pilot]

even at a high level, i enjoy a game of MG or SMG, HAR just cause it's kinda goofy to take something off meta and have to make it work

definitely weaker for sure but I do enjoy them from time to time

[upper ginkgo]

idk I feel like the meta weapons are strong enough that even like bad usage of them outperforms average usage of weaker guns

like if I gave a new person hel rifle for r1c1, im more inclined to think they'll kill more than if I gave them veruta that they're comfortable with

[dreamy socket]

As someone who uses all guns badly, I'd say its minimal

[upper ginkgo]

fair

im under the assumption that the person is hitting their shots anyway

[tardy ingot]

It depends on the difference

[little pilot]

the main thing about this imo is how bad are they? cause in your example if the player understands that they are supposed to just shoot with hel rifle too even if they miss or dont get pens then probably they are more effective, but if they take 2 weeks to fire a single shot, or misuse hel rifle heavily... the mg feels better if they just dump ammo into the enemies

[tardy ingot]

Someone using arbalist, sniper or AR is gonna benefit a lot from hel rifle, scatter or sawed off

A big issue is people going
„Im comfortable with x gun cuz ive used it a bunch, new gun feels different and I dont want it“ on top of the obvious actual comfort diff

[dreamy socket]

The difference in comfort is what makes it fun to use other guns imo

[upper ginkgo]

idk how to define "bad" and I feel like it breaches arbitrary territory trying to define hyper specific scenarios for which my statement might be true

but im inclined to think that 40% accuracy with hel rifle is going to kill more than 70% accuracy with veruta

im not a believer in the comfort diff

[safe cradle]

There's a certain room for arguing that a minimum amount of explanation is sometimes needed. I've played with A LOT of newbie pubs in R1C1 (100+ clears of that) and the "I'm not gonna use Sniper/HEL Rifle/PR even at 100% because it's wasted/I dont have time to reload" is VERY common. It's also very easily fixed tbh.

The issue is when they take stuff that also requires knowing the game AND aim well enough to be effective that, yes, they'd just do better with Carbine/Sawn-off/whatever meta gun you want.

It's why I usually just tell them to take carbine if they are really new and struggle and just want something good to use

It doesn't require knowing enemy movement or when to shoot or stuff like that, you just go pew pew by burst

Whenever I suggest Sawn off they shoot from way too far away and say that the gun doesn't deal the damage it should

[ebon galleon]

I feel like sawed off already has a ridiculous amount of range for what is does and how good it is so they must be using it like a dmr

[frail heart]

you'd be surprised

[tardy ingot]

Beginners shoot pdw at 30+ meters

[ebon galleon]

Bot levels of game play ngl

[tardy ingot]

Sawed off at 15+ isnt rly uncommon there

And at that point its a pray and do minor stuff

[ocean spindle]

"not read gun descriptions" gamers

[normal granite]

we are getting hybrids in the first nightmare alarm in E2

wuts happening

[ocean spindle]

happens sometimes

[normal granite]

like, are they actually part of the wave or just sleeping in E

[burnt inlet]

a part of the wave

it does happen sometimes

[normal granite]

@steep ivy

[burnt inlet]

ive gotten it like 40% of the time id say in my pubs

[ocean spindle]

yeah samies

i in my 10 attempts

[normal granite]

we had it 2 runs in a row

and other than that, i have NEVER seen them

[steep ivy]

Neither

[keen seal]

you can get them sometimes

[frail heart]

yeah it happens

you can also get them in wave 1 of reactor lmaop

[ebon light]

that i havent seen

and ive never not seen hybrids in nm6 1

I always get 1 or 2

[fathom ice]

heat

if you've pulled scout waves before your nm6 / reactor you usually don't get hybrids

[uneven kiln]

I should probably add this to the wiki

[fathom ice]

same thing when you start a level and you get a giant when starting an alarm

but you don't get any during next alarms

mechanic is just broken because heat is supposed to go up and down
it's up when you drop and it goes down during an alarm and never goes up again

so you get things in mini boss roles in alarm setting only early on when heat is up

[uneven kiln]

there are indeed hybrids in there

[frail heart]

the 3 hybrids pulling up with the 20 nightmares

[long atlas]

Hey weird question, in E2, the light that you jump on to get up top, does it sometimes just spawn in as a shadow that can't be jumped on?

I assume this can happen with any asset and I just got really, REALLY unlucky

[fathom ice]

when lights are off it's just a shadow

when lights are on it's a physical object

[long atlas]

I can't believe I never encountered that, actually wild that they do it like that

[uneven kiln]

That’s part of the aggressive culling system

You can see it in R7C3 too

[prime musk]

there is a parkour that doesn't require the light to be on

but it's a bit precise in comparison

[weary locust]

109775242801266022 go play

[normal granite]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[civic laurel]

is there a difference in "quality"/"scale"/whatever between the early rundowns and later ones or did that get evened out with the alt ones?

[frail heart]

R6, R7 and R8 have the highest quality

[civic laurel]

ic

also story/lore/whatever kicks in later aswell?

[civic wave]

it's interesting, the game certainly changed a lot even over early access (in terms of appearance) but the core of it has stayed functionally the same

since the original rundown 6 in Dec 2021 its been pretty samey tbh

the scale of each rundown didn't really change, barring r8 which I'd say is a bit bigger in scope, but they did get more mechanics to play with as time went on

[civic laurel]

more mechanics sounds cool

so far (R1B2) missions seem to be "grab thing that's behind door blocked by keycard"

which is a great formula but it's getting a tiny bit samey

[civic wave]

in r1-r5, the lore is pretty tame, being mostly "the warden wants this" in the level objectives and worldbuilding on logs on terminals

in r6 onwards there's story components you cannot avoid in the missions

[frail heart]

jump to r6 if you want

[civic laurel]

there's what on terminals?

[civic wave]

logs, little entries about whatever

[civic laurel]

planning to go in order unless I get really bored

[civic laurel]

huh

[civic wave]

could be an old email, science communication, etc etc

[civic laurel]

gonna keep an eye out for those

[ripe hamlet]

r1 is the most boring of all rundown

youll start getting more gimmicks and varied objectives as get to other rundowns

[tardy ingot]

Could always try to play missions more aggressive/faster

[civic laurel]

been trying to do that but my duo is ultra paranoid about ammo/health/resources in general

even though we always finish with plenty to spare without going into optional areas to get more

learning fast stealth does sound like it'll make the game more fun though

[ripe hamlet]

if you play reasonably well resource are never the problem

there are very very few lvls that truly restrict your res

[minor fractal]

Are you aware of force-aggro/force-long-range?

[civic laurel]

nope

[minor fractal]

If you have at least two enemies and force the nearest enemy w/ LoS to glow, then step into the hitbox of the first enemy right before killing it, you can force long range aggro to occur on specifically that nearest second enemy.

[civic laurel]

why is that beneficial?

[minor fractal]

Prevents unintended long-range, especially long-range from long distances.

and wake-up animations are generally slow and easy to follow up w/ depending on how dense the room is

[minor fractal]

And this can also reduce the information you need to collect

You don't need to know what all can see the second enemy, since it's already awake and can't long-range unless you miss kill

And you don't need to know if there's something far away that can see your first enemy killed

because you know this closer enemy is going to be the long-range

You can also peel off a small next to a giant, or a small on a big cluster

but you probably have to full crouch for it

Sync, glow just the enemy you want to remove from a cluster, force long range on that enemy and kill it w/out bothering the rest of the cluster

[civic laurel]

is there a video example im too new/inexperienced to visualise this I think

[minor fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDaFGZ1p3j0

I will look for timestamp rq

0:50

2:28

That's a good example where I don't want to risk waking enemies below the grate when I kill the crawler

but it's completely safe if I force aggro

[civic laurel]

I think I see it

[tardy ingot]

https://youtu.be/I0PP1U_MM74?si=OBCb2gqO8Zic8utn

Time stamped for the controlled long range aggro, but this video in general

[mellow sluice]

What are the best weapons for bots?

[upbeat flame]

Hel revo burst cannon

[civic wave]

for killing power: hel revolver, burst cannon
for longevity of ammo: burst rifle, veruta machine gun

[dreamy socket]

For, i dont want to die to bots:
Burst pistol, short rifle (surely)

[burnt inlet]

AR HAR

[dreamy socket]

Oh, true

[mellow sluice]

I was giving them Bullpup and heavy assault up until now

The wiki says melee doesn't matter because they always charge the same amount of time and do the same damage?

[fathom ice]

yes

[ocean spindle]

correct

i would not use bullpup the reloads v long and needs headshots, which bots are meh at

HAR is about fine but they might run out of ammo a little quick

[dreamy socket]

Use burst cannon w/ bots imo. Just dont stand in front of them

[mellow sluice]

Would mix and match work? Like one weapon for damage and one for capacity? Or rather, how do they choose which weapon to use?

[frail heart]

burst cannon is the best weapon on bots

[mellow sluice]

Is it based on range from the enemy? Or ammo left?

[ocean spindle]

uhhhh well mix and match doesnt do much cuz bots tend to balance ammo anyway, so theyll have about the same %, and as how do they shoot

bots shoot on line of sight, at any range, mostly bodyshots and using both guns equally to balance

so thats why long range, good dmg bodyshot guns are better

[mellow sluice]

[burnt inlet]

Reason why veruta and burst rifle are good efficiency wise is because they have a lot of ammo that the bots can use

But defo a burst canon angle

Hel revo debatable but I like it

[long atlas]

Also if you're playing with 3 bots(by yourself in other words) you're almost never gonna take friendly fire, they'll hit eachother instead

[mellow sluice]

Wait, so does range of the melee also not matter?

[long atlas]

Correct, it's a big flaw when they try to melee giants, since they'll just run into his melee range to do so

They get nice and cozy next to the enemy before blowing their head off

[proper plank]

hi i am a noob gtfo player, i was playing with my friends and we are not clear about the sneak mechanics
https://outplayed.tv/gtfo/Vz0dDv
can anyone explain how this shooter woke up

[ocean spindle]

any walking movement does in fact count as movement

so if u move, enemies alert

"observe stealth protocols, stay low, turn flashlight off, when enemy glows or pulsates, stand still"

[tardy ingot]

#guides-and-reviews message

Watch this vid

Basically someone moved

(Also you dont have to do the weird flashing thing when moving around. Keep it on, just not ON the enemies)

[proper plank]

if someone moves without los of a sleeper they still wake up?

[timber shoal]

no

in your clip your friend is inching forward while the sleeper is pulsating

and thats what woke it up and made it lick you

[proper plank]

and then i got punished for it lmao

[timber shoal]

yes lol

[proper plank]

ok thanks

[timber shoal]

if you need anything else dont hesitate to ask :3

[prime ore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290338125004144735/1297156174109605888/DuckShaker.gif

[civic laurel]

R1C1 got to the end of 7/8 reactor (did verify command but died on cleanup) do we lfg for 2 more or try again

as duo

with bots

[raven copper]

wtfv your heart desires

[civic laurel]

ok

are these loadouts any good

[frail heart]

give them either burst cannon or veruta

[civic laurel]

what about the primary

oh 2nd one is a player btw

[thick stump]

I heard that the PR is also good, but I think Moth said that but I am not sure anymore

[frail heart]

bro is throwing moth under the bus 😭

[frail heart]

burst rifle or hel revolver

[thick stump]

maybe it was sarcasm and I haven't noticed it xD

[civic laurel]

can shotgun turrets friendlyfire

[thick stump]

all turrets can friendly fire

[civic laurel]

so this sorta setup (shotty turret pointed towards the door) is a bad idea?

[thick stump]

but I recommend you only using burst sentries because they can be used in every situation, hel and sniper sentries are more situational and shotgun sentries are straight up wasting ammo

[civic laurel]

oh are they bad?

[thick stump]

I recommend you defending on the bridge facing the hole in the wall, much easier to hide from the projectiles from the hybrids shooting enemies on the same spot

[thick stump]

if you biotrack the enemies, the shotgun sentry shoots always 3 times one single enemy and when the enemy dies with the 1 shot, it still gonna shoot 2 more times at the dead body

[civic laurel]

ah

[tacit cedar]

yeah they're pretty bad

you probably want 2 burst sentries and 1 sniper sentry for the hybrids

[thick stump]

the only problem I have with the sniper sentry is that it is not always focusing hybrids, so I rather have 3 burst sentries and and shoot the hybrids myself

[tacit cedar]

that also works fine

[thick stump]

but when I look at your loadout, you better bring at least 1 sniper sentry because you guys don't have a single high damage weapon to deal with giants and hybrids, so you will struggle a lot

[civic laurel]

we did a bit of changing

hell rifle to pick off fat boys high cal pistol to 1shot normals from longer range than the sawedoff

[thick stump]

all hel weapons have penetration, so a hel rifle can kill 5 enemies with 1 bullet if you line them up well

[frail heart]

shotgun turrets are ASS

[upper ginkgo]

someone please post the sentry killbox diagram

[frail heart]

fuck i dont have that

[calm pulsar]

If you don't have the material, you have to follow up with those who know

[civic wave]

flashlights on to draw them in

[thick stump]

do you guys mean this one? xD

[upper ginkgo]

YES

tyyy

[thick stump]

Moth posted this one day

[upper ginkgo]

one of the few pieces of historical gtfo media to survive the fire

[sturdy glen]

what the fuck is this

[upper ginkgo]

although i believe this one was originally posted to reddit

[sturdy glen]

actual banger

[upper ginkgo]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/eh4z9z/shotgun_sentry_killbox_setup/

[frail heart]

have you never seen this

its so peak

[timber shoal]

this is for r1c1 yeah?

[hard nexus]

ive had folks bring all the cpu speed booster setup on shotgun sentry i was so confused when i heard how fast it goes

[upper ginkgo]

og r1c1 i think

[frail heart]

markiplier ahh strat

[upper ginkgo]

back when shotgun sentry scaled with player count or something

[frail heart]

yeah\

[minor fractal]

• back damage

[upper ginkgo]

so it was like highk viable

[frail heart]

4 players 4x damage

[timber shoal]

nah mark got sort of intelligent by the end of r6

[frail heart]

also placing sentries through sec doors lmao

[minor fractal]

Shotgun sentries would just play the game for you in that era

Insanely op

[civic wave]

so good

[frail heart]

he only played OG r1 and OG r6

oh and OG r2

[timber shoal]

i like how in r2 they literally only played r2b4

[frail heart]

they played others

R1A1 + Solo
R1B1 + Solo
R1B2
R1C1
R1C2
R1D1 - FAILED

R2A1
R2B1
R2B2 - FAILED
R2B4 - FAILED

R6A1
R6B1
R6C1
R6C3 Main
R6D1

this is the list we made

which is what we know of

[timber shoal]

they didnt even beat b4 😭

thats hilarious

[frail heart]

they only played it once pretty sure

they got early access and it was the only level

[sturdy glen]

they made b4 look so hard

[upper ginkgo]

lowk beating r2b1 is kinda of a feat cause i remember hearing people were hardstuck on that level in og

[sturdy glen]

I thought that shit was genuinely a really rough level before alt dropped

[frail heart]

it was a class 9 wasnt it

[frail heart]

fr lmao

[upper ginkgo]

think so

[civic wave]

pre nerf was class9

[frail heart]

they made spitters look like the deadliest thing

[civic wave]

i think

95% sure in later versions of og r2 the scan is class 7

[frail heart]

hmm maybe

[upper ginkgo]

that tracks i think

[frail heart]

would be easy to check

[timber shoal]

they wouldve loved that one r6d4 room

[civic wave]

i did play it a few weeks back with one or two people so like

[frail heart]

im surprised they beat r6c3

[timber shoal]

do they have a video on it?

[upper ginkgo]

lf3m gtfo% run (og r1 to r8)

[frail heart]

they streamed it

theres a vod of it

[timber shoal]

i see

[civic wave]

ah i didn't record when i was playing og r2

other than a funny resource duped ammopack

0 use ammopack

[civic wave]

does this skip the ALT rundowns

are we playing on the original rundown 7 patch

[frail heart]

you play all levels from every single patch

[upper ginkgo]

no we don't skip the alt rundowns dummy

[civic wave]

[raven copper]

vros still omega clueless in like almost every game ive seen em play

[upper ginkgo]

watching the markiplier play re9...

[safe cradle]

why cant we have cool famous youtubers play GTFO, like civvie11

[raven copper]

thats what im saying

[safe cradle]

or sseth

[frail heart]

guys guys im right here

[upbeat flame]

on the lowkes I get it, I jus be drooling looking at leon so

[raven copper]

vro ALMOST missed the hip pouch

[frail heart]

i drool lookin at mark

[upbeat flame]

I gotta watch iron lung

[frail heart]

he has some HONKERS in that movie

also the movie is goated

imo

i watched it 3 times

[raven copper]

mark an leon in one place=double drool

[upbeat flame]

shii got you like a pitbull, jus slobberin all over the place

[frail heart]

https://tenor.com/view/smiley-face-smile-joy-want-spit-gif-9797795817090409654

[raven copper]

i be drooling

[civic laurel]

we did it

gg

[frail heart]

huge

[timber shoal]

good shit

[civic laurel]

r1c2 time

[timber shoal]

best r1 level

[civic laurel]

👀

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/let's-take-a-look-wesker-resident-evil-dead-by-daylight-albert-wesker-gif-13375496850976456245

[civic laurel]

is this an intended visual effect or resolution fuckery?

doesn't happen on right edge so unsure

[tiny wyvern]

Yes

Well, it's normal, it happens with practically everyone
Whether it's a 'feature' or a bug I don't think anyone cared enough to look into it

[ocean spindle]

v much a feature

adds to that crt feel

[uneven kiln]

Run NoGuiMirroring mod if you want to turn it off

[ripe hamlet]

what does that mod do actually

does it make reading the objective easier

[uneven kiln]

It prevents the doubling up of text on all HUD elements

[ripe hamlet]

feel like i never notice the doubling

[civic laurel]

suboptimal

[upper ginkgo]

i raised a family of four and retired in the time it took you to beat this level

[civic laurel]

we're both blind

entirely

[timber shoal]

😭

somebody stopped to smell the roses

[civic laurel]

ok to be fair we did afk stroke it for like 10 minuets

[upper ginkgo]

erm

[timber shoal]

over two hours though is still pretty long

[civic laurel]

surely I get a pass because I'm going in blind surely

this map also felt HUGE

i think

[upper ginkgo]

yeah it's pretty a big

a maze

a labyrinth

[civic laurel]

yeah

[frail heart]

excuse me

[upbeat flame]

Cmon WE all do this

You heard the man

[mellow sluice]

Fellas. Are there any mods to change values? Like lower the amount of spitters, or change how long they're inactive after flashing them, or even making them permanently inactive after shooting them?
Or change damage values of enemies?

[tiny wyvern]

Specifically about spitters?

[mellow sluice]

They're my main pet peeve. 30 seconds is way too short, especially if I'm hitting them with the light of a thousand suns

[tiny wyvern]

Then no
what level are you having that much trouble with spitters you'd hate them that much?

If you don't like them THAT much or there's a particular one that's that annoying cfoam them

[mellow sluice]

I think it was r2b2. I didn't have an issue with them, more that they're annoying, come back too fast, and are so many

[tiny wyvern]

You soloing?

Unless you're playing solo your teammates usually have lights of their own to shine away the spitters, so it's less of a problem there

If you're soloing then I get why you find them annoying, usually you just get a long range flashlight and make sure to get them out of the way before doing anything

[mellow sluice]

With bots.

[raven copper]

ye bots dont actively try an shut them off i dont think

they dont get any infection anyhow

[ocean spindle]

average spitter enjoyer

ur solution

[nimble spire]

Is hel revo ever actually better than sawed off

[raven copper]

sawed off is your best bet every day of the week

hel revo is good though

[ripe hamlet]

if you have aimbot and doesnt have to deal with charger then maybe hel revo is better

[raven copper]

ye basically

like its still good but sawed off is like the atom bomb of main weapons

[nimble spire]

I can see it

But against not only giants something like dmr is really good

Or hel shotgun

[ebon light]

hel shotgun is good utility

[raven copper]

its great into smalls

[ebon light]

dmr is good into specifically smalls with specifically headshots

[raven copper]

sawed off kinda does everything

but like dont let it define how you play

[ebon light]

sniff join vc

[raven copper]

I literally jus parked my car

still need to go inside

well i cant join now anyways xd

[elfin canyon]

how does the stamina work? like i have a vague idea of the heartrate and stuff but is there more to it? i know sometimes my health turns yellow but i dont entirely know what that means.

[normal granite]

Lower stamina (higher pulse) means lower movement speed while sprinting

And i think* maybe less melee damage or longer charge time. That part im not 100% on

[timber shoal]

things like sprinting, jumping, and charged swings with your melee all consume stamina, which visually raises your pulse

[sturdy glen]

charge time ye, damage no

[timber shoal]

which results in the things ribbit said

[elfin canyon]

alright, thank you!!

[normal granite]

Aight cheers

Just knew it was one of the two, forgot which

[thick stump]

also very important to now, when no enemies are awake, your pulse is capped at 110, so you have like infinite stamina and can sprint without a break, but when enemies are awake or there is an ongoing error alarm, the pulse can rise to higher and I think at 150 it turns yellow, then you are slower and longer charge time like Ribbit said

[spring ocean]

question
what does yellow on a rundown boarder mean?

[civic wave]

generally that the mission has some amount of story focus

[spring ocean]

neat, ty

[winter breach]

Capped at 110 is a little crazy

[thick stump]

where is the pulse capped when there is no awake enemies?

[fleet niche]

Its going horribly getting past R1C2, does anyone have more tips? Ive already gotten a few but I might quit trying to solo this one...

[timber shoal]

you're running hel rifle yeah?

[raven copper]

I mean the ones we've given are about it id think its jus more so practice

[fleet niche]

Ive tried many but im quite buns at the game lmao

[raven copper]

hel rifle sawed off is the go to

with a burst

[burnt inlet]

Hel rifle or hel gun is the play ngl

[burnt inlet]

Why not hel auto

[raven copper]

I mean you can

[burnt inlet]

I think hel auto sentry better cuz you have so much tool

[raven copper]

both are good either way

[fleet niche]

Ran this a couple times but I dont think soloing is my thing. Its my first real solo, the only solo I did in the past was another mission where I already knew the ins and outs

[raven copper]

it is a very hard lvl to solo

[timber shoal]

either hel auto or sniper sentry imo

[raven copper]

so its not that it isn't your thing its jus you arent trained well enough yet at it to do it

I couldn't even do it an i have like almost 1k hrs

[fleet niche]

Yeah true, but its really draining playing multiple rounds in a row

[raven copper]

exactly y I dont play solo😭

[burnt inlet]

Solo is so trash ngl

Hate to be a hater

[raven copper]

its extremely draining mentally

[burnt inlet]

But i would never solo without my bots

[fleet niche]

Nah I think most people can agree honestly

it cannot be fun

[raven copper]

the ever so humble dodo_goat

[timber shoal]

depends on the level personally

[burnt inlet]

Zed is gonna flame us for hating on soloing

[timber shoal]

but thats just me

[raven copper]

luq get outta here with yo dmr shotgun head aaahhhhh

[timber shoal]

i like playing r2d2 and r3d1 solo because they're good levels

[fleet niche]

yo yea facts

[tacit cedar]

just foam the last ladder

[timber shoal]

ewwwwwwwwwwww

[raven copper]

the lizer is trolling

[burnt inlet]

Sending ice to your location

[timber shoal]

😭

[tacit cedar]

and use dmr shotgun obviously

[raven copper]

vros gonna turn into the wave from gd an escape ice

[timber shoal]

oh also sniff i tried r6cx with one bot

:>

[raven copper]

how was it

[timber shoal]

i dont know if tower's possible ngl

[burnt inlet]

Dodo beat it in 56 mins

[raven copper]

nah nah 30min

[timber shoal]

maybe if you cap out the smalls

wait

[burnt inlet]

An revo occi a cscout

[tacit cedar]

my perception of that part is so skewed cuz all of my clears were when I was terrible at the game and getting 20fps there

[raven copper]

spawn cap the fliers

[timber shoal]

are flyers under the same spawncap as smalls

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[timber shoal]

or are they different

[burnt inlet]

Meow

Meow

My bad

[timber shoal]

bc its the flyers that touch you inappropriately

[raven copper]

everything on that lvl does

[timber shoal]

no its just the tower

first half was fun

[burnt inlet]

I love it when flying balls shoot their load at me inappropriately

[raven copper]

I meant more so the tower ye

[timber shoal]

i recorded it :3

[raven copper]

did you beat it?

[timber shoal]

no

[raven copper]

ah😭

[tacit cedar]

it might be the same I feel like there were barely any flyers whenever a ton of smalls were alive

[raven copper]

its the same i believe

[burnt inlet]

e2 solo with bots here i go

[raven copper]

you should stream your gameplay for me dodo while I feed my little chuds

[timber shoal]

the strat might have to be long kiting a spawncap of smalls so the flyers dont bother you on uplink

[tacit cedar]

you can probably get a ton of smalls stuck at the bottom too

[raven copper]

you can ye

[tacit cedar]

idk how to consistently replicate that but it happened to us once

[raven copper]

WAIT DODO

[timber shoal]

dauda went down real fast unfortunately

whats up

[raven copper]

USE MY ROCKWALL TECHNIQUE

[timber shoal]

i dont know the tech vro

and i dont think it would help against the flyers

[raven copper]

you long kite them to spawn an rock wall climb

ill show you

ye flyers are wtv its more so for the smalls to never even touch you at the top or middle

[tacit cedar]

how do the waves even work is it just like simultaneously spawning smalls and flyers so you're always at spawn cap

[raven copper]

they spawn behind doors in the lvl

[timber shoal]

maybe ask ghostly

[raven copper]

its like a error i think or something an kinda jus spawn at those times

[timber shoal]

he'd know more about the datablocks for that level than anyone

[tacit cedar]

im assuming the actual uplinks don't spawn anything

like r7c3

[raven copper]

nah I dont believe so

[timber shoal]

shit starts spawning before you even start them so im guessing not

[raven copper]

maybe they spawn the flyers idk xd

but dodo lemme show you

give me like 10min we can vc an ill show you then show you my little chuds

[timber shoal]

oki :3

[raven copper]

I got some chicken Alfredo to heat up mmmffffff

[ripe hamlet]

chat

is it possible to dodge with sprint toggle

[raven copper]

jus turn your mouse sensitivity high an do the sharpest turns ever

[uneven kiln]

the sniff vc

[raven copper]

I will be ye jus getting my food heated

[ripe hamlet]

well wiki called it dodge

but ppl here call it dash

[fathom ice]

idk bro I don't play sprint toggle

[winter breach]

It can go still above

[tacit cedar]

@raven copper move vcs I wanna see the method in a bit

[fleet niche]

i rage quit after one solo

i cant even get past the first class 3 alarm now

im getting worse and worse

[burnt inlet]

how many shots does it take to kill a mom with sawed off?

[timber shoal]

client or host

[burnt inlet]

well we will be both

theoretical best wouldnt change tho

[timber shoal]

true

{{Sawed Off Shotgun}}

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Sawed_Off_Shotgun?action=edit&redlink=1

[timber shoal]

kms

{{Sawed-Off Shotgun}}

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Buckland_SBS_III_Sawed-off_Shotgun

GTFO Wiki

Buckland SBS III Sawed-off Shotgun

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The Sawed-off Shotgun is a semi-automatic weapon filling the main weapon slot, which was released in the extension of Rundown 005 as a rundown specific weapon, and re-added in ALT://Rundown 5.0. Its magazine size was increased to 4 shells in Rundown 8.0 (whilst retaining the same triple-barrel break-action mechanism).

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Details

Weapon type

Main

Fire mode

Semi-Automatic

Pellet count

8 pellets

Max ammo

45

Reserve ammo Bullet Cost Remainder

41
11
0.82

Magazine size

4

Starting ammo

27.27 (60.6%)

Ammo per refill

8.18 (18.18%)

Damage

(3.8 x 8) = 30.4

Precision Multiplier

0.7413x

Precision damage

(2.81694 x 8) = 22.53552

Stagger Multiplier

2x

Stagger damage

(7.6 x 8) = 60.8

Damage per mag Precision Stagger

121.6
(90.14208)
(243.2)

Total damage Precision Stagger

1368
(1014.0984)
(2736)

Rate of fire DPS

240 RPM
121.6 DPS

Reload Time Reload Cancel

1.6s
1.44s

Falloff Start Falloff End

6m
40m

[upbeat flame]

if I had to guess, 8

nah wait, 10

[prime musk]

11 on client. assume 12 on host

[upbeat flame]

even higher, damn

[prime musk]

wait im making shit up

it's 9 on client 10 on host

[burnt inlet]

so it will be a mag dump into hel rifle angle

for two people

[prime musk]

which level is this

[burnt inlet]

E2 fake duo

[prime musk]

what about

[burnt inlet]

no we arent bringing scatter

[prime musk]

the scatter player

my bad

what about

the burst cannon player

[burnt inlet]

not skilled enough

[prime musk]

anyways your play is

both of your hit hammer into spamming sawed off

[burnt inlet]

bots btw

[prime musk]

and it should die

and if that's not enough it has to be like 1hp and you just shoot hel rifle

[frail heart]

you just spam sawed off cause it will stagger and give you time to reload

[prime musk]

you can just spam sawed off but it just wastes ammo compared to sneaking in the melee

[tacit cedar]

@uneven kiln

apparently hybrids can spawn after you start the 2nd uplink??

[prime musk]

it's miniboss so it's like never spawning in without heatbugfix

[ocean spindle]

whats that lvl

[timber shoal]

r6cx

[ocean spindle]

ohhh

[timber shoal]

we were looking at how the uplinks affect what spawns

[burnt inlet]

😭 what

[thick stump]

why are you pinging them a third time now? are you eager to get banned that fast? xD

[prime ore]

He is tripling down

[final terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/mrbeast-ytpmv-rap-battle-squid-game-squid-game-vs-mrbeast-gif-25491394

aw he's gone

[burnt inlet]

mods be eating good tonight

[coral dune]

how do you balance ammo with burst cannon, do you just burst a singular striker every so often?

[timber shoal]

use burst cannon to get multiple kills on smalls by dragging the crosshair mid burst

we call it brushing

[ocean spindle]

cuz its like a comb

like the super monkey ball 2 game

like the levels it has, one of them being an underwater secttion

one of those has a website

it is now a virus website

viruses spread, like hair

which gets brushed

thats why is called brushing

duh

[elfin canyon]

is there like a recommended loadout for r1d1

[winter breach]

Triple sentry and bio

[elfin canyon]

ok ty

[latent panther]

Is it possible to lower the fog in R8B4 after doing the Secondary?

[tardy ingot]

yes, but its not an intended way

[latent panther]

And is the checkpoint still bugged like the wiki says?

[tardy ingot]

@uneven kiln I dont remember if it truly got fixed since I dont rly use checkpoints. But they might know

[fathom ice]

ye

stuff still in spawns after checkpointing

[tardy ingot]

F

the worst part is that it isnt even tied to that levels checkpoint

[latent panther]

Oof

[tardy ingot]

the level just bugs out if you checkpointed during your session

[fathom ice]

ye it's just checkpoints being checkpoints

[tardy ingot]

so if you did, close the game and restart before doing R8B4

[viscid swallow]

😭

[latent panther]

uhh i don't see any 3rd log in this mission.

[fathom ice]

log tracker says it's just two so maybe it's some mod thingy

there's feedback on modded server so u can tell dev that that's a thing

[uneven kiln]

Yeah, I was originally tipped off by heart-felt and idiot’s R8B4 true duo clear vid on YT, and we did indeed test it in current version. Moth and I did so and I got an error wave spawning effectively on top of me while going for cell despite no enemy leaks from everyone else holding error at the door to zone

[dreamy socket]

Log tracker, (The App One) Is missing some logs, I found this out the hard way

[viscid swallow]

Wtf

[uneven kiln]

It’s not guaranteed to spawn ahead of the team after checkpointing on every single wave of the error, but it most definitely can and the chances are high due to how frequent the interval is

[dreamy socket]

?

[viscid swallow]

Only 2 logs for us

[fathom ice]

Ill go drop in cconsole and check every term just in case

but I believe u

[burnt inlet]

You’ve got 1 more log to collect

[viscid swallow]

yeah the mod is bugged for us

[cedar heath]

what's the mod to show ping(ms) on HUD?

[burnt inlet]

https://andocas.com/gtfo

Check here

What you need

[viscid swallow]

thx

[fathom ice]

I genuinely went through every term and did not find a 3rd log lol

[dreamy socket]

where the fuck did I get 3rd log then

also, the app version of log tracker is still wrong, I know this as fact

[uneven kiln]

Modlist is the popular choice but only works if you as client and host have it. Otherwise, Netstat mod

[fathom ice]

https://andocas.com/gtfo/log-tracker/ I meant this one if we're talking about same thing

[dreamy socket]

no this ones fine

[fathom ice]

Oh

well it does show only two logs so

idk

[mystic rock]

SKY

[fathom ice]

JADE

[mystic rock]

https://tenor.com/view/happycadogt-waking-moving-forward-gif-8082989045834495144

do you want to do something

[fathom ice]

https://tenor.com/view/reze-tongue-out-reze-chainsaw-man-moving-her-head-reze-head-moving-reze-chainsaw-man-gif-15937294161332759512

we could

[mystic rock]

hop on remnant quick

[fathom ice]

BUH

[cedar heath]

lol

[fathom ice]

omg sentry everywhere

[cedar heath]

didn't know that we had cctv in gtfo

[latent panther]

The mod is showing one of the R5D1 log as a R2D2 log.

We were missing the log in zone 289.

[dreamy socket]

oh, lol

[keen seal]

@fathom ice it's cookiezi