gtfo-related-questions

[topaz python]

I was just thinking to foam doors to avoid killing in surge

[upbeat flame]

you will probably gain quite a bit of infection in the error, but at that point you will be moving fast enough to where infection damage will not be a problem

[upbeat flame]

we also did that for our first and only clear, it's not a bad idea but from what I've heard/seen 3 sentries is more consistent

it also kind of relies on error spawns not coming from the front

[topaz python]

Ok I’ll remove infection booster

[burnt inlet]

Well it’s team scans, hel auto holds surges better

[topaz python]

Good point

I’ll try C foam at first we’ll see how it fairs on a first attempt

[upbeat flame]

you can do whatever is necesarry, we did it with foam mines n sentry, other people do it with whatever

many ways to skin a cat

[topaz python]

Solid

Well we are gonna drop now

Thanks for the help

I’ll let yah know how it goes

[upbeat flame]

good luck

[topaz python]

o7

[steep ivy]

how do you silent shot? i know it's something to do with swapping to melee shortly after shooting

[burnt inlet]

I think it’s having melee (or anything which doesn’t make sound) out, swapping to weapon, holding M2 as you shoot (quick shooting) and then swap back

At least iirc that’s how you both quick shoot and silent shoot

And you have to be quicker than the ping between you and host iirc?

[steep ivy]

pretty sure

[prime musk]

moth is correct

if you're holding out either melee, bio, or foam (not sure about mines or sentry) and quickswap to a gun and shoot within your ping, it's silent

[steep ivy]

yeah i think i've got the hang of it

[prime musk]

hitting enemies still obeys to stealth rules ie you can still long range and proxy aggro off of enemies silent shot

[steep ivy]

yeah i've found out about the proxy thing

[burnt inlet]

Dont forget packs and consumables :>

[steep ivy]

so anything that isn't a gun bascially

[prime musk]

yeah pmuch

if im attempting to do it intentionally i would always use melee just because that's what im comfy with but it doesn't make a difference

[burnt inlet]

And the hacking thing prolly?

Surely we just get the mod that fixes silentshooting

[prime musk]

silent shooting is legitimate tech and should be allowed in speedrunning

sure it's a "bug" or something because of how they implemented gunsounds from clients

[steep ivy]

i'm just wanting to for a modded rundown

[prime musk]

fair

[burnt inlet]

Modded when they spam 5 tanks 10 pmoms @raven copper

[prime musk]

remove 9 pmoms and the situation becomes a lot more threatening

[raven copper]

wtf do you want

[burnt inlet]

The fuhking modded solo thing

R1A1

Remember?

It was literally today wro 🥀

[raven copper]

what kinda fuckin modded rundown is this

[prime musk]

gtfr is so fucking good

[burnt inlet]

Sniff you literally played it and was complaining

😭🥀

You dodo an rem

Was in a call

[timber shoal]

true!

[burnt inlet]

With the maker of the mod

[burnt inlet]

Should we place sniff in a nursing home?

[raven copper]

dude I complaining for the bit

[raven copper]

jump

[burnt inlet]

Yea an I’m doing a bit rn

[raven copper]

jump

[burnt inlet]

👍window looking mad sexy rn

[raven copper]

licks lips

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-breaking-it-down-omni-man-breaking-it-down-let-me-break-down-omni-man-gif-13756552621007848541

[burnt inlet]

Lick yours?

Yea I’m jumping

Geegees

[tiny wyvern]

'Let me break it down for you'

[vague bridge]

can someone explain to me why its sunday but its not day and the sun isnt out?

[raven copper]

we can be bees

[upbeat flame]

Can’t wait for s4

Our glorious buzzcut king will pull up

With Lee pace voicing no less

[steep ivy]

can you do it with hel rifles/charge-up?

[frail heart]

yeah

[steep ivy]

i assume it's the same but need to hold down to shoot instead of just tapping

[woven jackal]

Is gtfo cross platty

[ripe hamlet]

<@&408548765599793173> yummer

[raven copper]

YEYEYSYSYSYSYSYSSYSYSYYS

LETS GO

[normal granite]

there are no other platforms gtfo is on to begin with, so no

gtfo is only steam right now

[woven jackal]

Noooo my friends can't play

[normal granite]

pc/steam only sadly

probably wont come to consoles any time soon, if at all

very hard game, would be insanely hard on consoles

[vestal crest]

@prime musk thanks for the help, c-foam was the missing piece

[prime musk]

congrats

[vestal crest]

Yeah that last scan is pretty trivial with floor foam

[normal granite]

if there are no tanks, mothers, or nightmares in the level, is there any downside to host running scatter as opposed to client

[sturdy glen]

assuming you mean nightmare scouts by nightmares then no, its better most of the time

[runic roost]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-breaking-it-down-omni-man-breaking-it-down-let-me-break-down-omni-man-gif-13756552621007848541

[agile vine]

Stealth killing Charger giants work the same as with normal giants? Limb break till they drop? (With knife)

[frail heart]

You dont stealth kill charger giants solo ever you just shoot

[burnt inlet]

If you have the sawed off press 2 and then M1 twice to their back, otherwise slot the scatter and press 3 and then M1 once

[agile vine]

It's not possible?

[burnt inlet]

It’s just so dangerous

And wouldn’t surprise me if it wasn’t

[frail heart]

it is but it is not consistent at all and you are just better off shooting

or sneaking

[agile vine]

Damn, you guys know how to hype me up. Now I'm definitely going to try to stealth kill thsoe fuckers.

[ocean spindle]

solo or

cuz with a team u can try to put ur effort in knifing but

solo nopes

[livid stone]

use scattergun

[mystic rock]

soloing a charger giant wouldn't be that much harder than solo meleeing a giant if it wasn't for the fact that you can only break 4 limbs

cause the idea is the same, you just charge enough with back damage to get a limb break, they have the same limb hp but you get 20 less damage from first hit on a charger giant because no occi so you break all 4 limbs with it having about 20-30 remaining so if it is at 20 then you are doing hits on 20 dmg for limb breaks, probably hitting as client cause it's easier and so that's an easy kill but if you're host you're probably hitting 15-19 hits to chain stagger so next hit will either do nothing or might light stagger depending on timing. so soloing a charger giant on host will either require a bit of melee booster or baiting a punch if you're trying to force no scream otherwise just bait tongue cause if you stagger chain it's still ready for a tongue attack then just hit but yeah that might trigger a scream

[burnt inlet]

does R5C2 thunderdome enemies take priority over wave enemies?

[mystic rock]

depends on how much spawn cap space the waves need to spawn

the thunderdome doesn't need a huge amount to be free so it should prioritize those spawns

the fact that it's an event doesn't really matter it still follows the spawn rules

[burnt inlet]

ye

thought about pulling alarm as i deal with the enemies

[mystic rock]

safe to assume thunderdome enemies will come first

[burnt inlet]

ok thunderdome is actually free

why was i concerned

[ocean spindle]

cuz ur big dum >:3

jk

[fathom ice]

i'm psure ur thunderdome goes in queue

like a reactor wave

so pulling an alarm will make it worse

[burnt inlet]

ye i didnt pull alarm

[fathom ice]

ye

it's fine as is

[burnt inlet]

i had to circle tank like once

and that was only sketchy part

even then it wasnt that sketchy

[fathom ice]

i already forgot what i did in my solo

but idt anything was a problem in thunderdome

[burnt inlet]

i held in a room to an alarm

[ocean spindle]

very detailed lineart if u will

[burnt inlet]

wait if i complete thunderdome scan mid alarm doesnt that cancel the enemies? (and how would this work for reactor?)

[frail heart]

enemies are set so probably not

no permanent alarm = no need for deactivate

[burnt inlet]

👍

[mystic rock]

went outside and killed thunderdome in gen cluster zone

[fathom ice]

oh right

[normal granite]

booo lame strat

thunderdome is goated

IN the thunderdome

[frail heart]

Blud doesn’t know it’s solo

[normal granite]

i do

still lamer strat

[fathom ice]

well you can shoot it out in the thunderdome if u want to

wink

[topaz python]

We got eaten by the level 4 surge alarm. Accidentally tripped the second scout in the double scout room and I got smacked by a damn invisible giant so we were out of most things by that room. Surprisingly ok on ammo just wasn’t prepared for the onslaught of hybrids. Now that we know we can do it so much better, probably gonna try the multi hell auto sentries because foam and mines was good but just didn’t have the damage to help us after

Will attempt again soon

[upbeat flame]

Yeah class 4 kinda brutal, you can buy time by foaming off and mining the 3 doors from the zone you went to get the cell and turbine

Also one of our guys brought the sniper for hybrids, but that’s probably not worth, a Hel rifle will do

Dunno how the 3 sentries would work tho

[topaz python]

I was the sniper and I also got obliterated first so it was pretty much over after that

[upbeat flame]

Yeaaah

Also you should probably just shoot the shadow giants, not worth taking the risk of a smack

I was the scatter of our team and I just blasted thru the shadow zone

[topaz python]

yeah we figured afterrr we failed the stealth check on like our 3rd giant

will just be shooting them from now on

honestly couldve gone further if we had more health from just shootin em

[upbeat flame]

Yeah

[normal granite]

Sniper not great in r2e1 (or most levels tbf)

Like yeeticus said, try hel rifle

Insanely good, and can one shot normal scouts to the head

As for tools, try taking either
1 mine deployer, 1 hel auto, 1 burst
Or
2 burst and 1 hel auto, or 1 burst and 2 hel auto

[upbeat flame]

No bio?

[prime musk]

team sniper is viable in 2e1
it's lowkey one of the better levels in the game for it if you play it correctly

and play it with like hel shotgun

it's a weird word to use for gtfo but with proper team composition and correct understanding of how to play it sniper in 2e1 is very fine

[normal granite]

Typo

3 sentries and bio
Or 2 sentries, 1 mine, 1 bio

[upbeat flame]

Oh yeah I was gonna say, 4 sentries seems a bit overkill

[normal granite]

3 hel auto would be

[upbeat flame]

The firing squad

[normal granite]

https://tenor.com/view/drunk-gif-18812856

The stagger

[upbeat flame]

Sleepers ain’t making it past the first door 🔥

[topaz python]

I also feel like I should mention my girlfriend made a realistic reload mod which drops all bullets left in the mag during combat, that changes the gunplay slightly

[ocean spindle]

cry of fear

[upbeat flame]

You’re take a mod to make that game harder? Well that’s a first

[sturdy glen]

heh

[little pilot]

the true nerf sawed off needs

[undone raven]

Burst cannon players HATE this simple trick!

[topaz python]

yeah its a lot of fun

all shell fed weapons dont lose all their amo during combat reloading though because thats not how they work

[undone raven]

My muscle memory would be cooked

Solo holding would actually be so much harder

[gritty talon]

do u need to complete the mission for logs to count towards the achievement or can u js leave once u read it

[ocean spindle]

leave once read

[gritty talon]

thanks fis

[ocean spindle]

gaming

[gritty talon]

gayming

[upbeat flame]

gay ming dynasty

[gritty talon]

guys guys guys guys guys

is the shadow scout just lltb foid anglemaxxing cus why did my bullet go through its ballhead

[digital mural]

i did not understand what you are saying

[burnt inlet]

Just slot a shotgun and M1

[ocean spindle]

me when i miss

:3

[gritty talon]

if i had a ball for everytime i missed my shot on a shadowscout i would have 2 balls because i never miss

[digital mural]

you just said you missed tho

wdym "never"

[gritty talon]

heh

mustve been the wind

[ocean spindle]

bullet falloff hits hard gravity is heavy

[woven jackal]

Little confused

So r1 a1 is the same difficulty as r2 a1?

similar in difficulty I mean

Or is r2 a1 like a "new" tier of easiest difficulty

R1 would be easiest and R2 would be easy

[mystic rock]

the letter of the mission is basically just about how hard you can expect the mission to be

the rundown number is just for ordering purposes basically

[frail heart]

not all A tiers are created equal

i would say r1a1 and r2a1 are similar in difficulty

r2a1 probably being a little harder

[woven jackal]

im sure experience plays a role

rn r1c1 is my hard limit

[frail heart]

for solo?

[woven jackal]

so I'm guessing all the other "C" tiers

[woven jackal]

No hahah bots

[frail heart]

ah okay

you just gotta keep playing and improve

r1c1 is 100% not your hard limit

[woven jackal]

limit as in: 1 wake up and it's game over

[tardy ingot]

uuh

[winter breach]

Uh

Just get good

[tardy ingot]

if thats game over in r1c1 thats not good

[woven jackal]

Any tips?

[frail heart]

You would be surprised at what you can deal with

[tardy ingot]

R1C1 is not an untypical wall for beginners though. Especially with 3 bots

[frail heart]

The hardest levels in the game have been solo'd WITHOUT bots, you just gotta keep playing and keep improving

Big things are always ask questions for literally anything, and always have the mindset of WANTING to get better

If you dont want to get better or dont try to get better, you'll hit a wall fairly quickly

[tardy ingot]

(As a whole this game is very knowledge based, so its not like you need impeccale aim)

[woven jackal]

the difficulty for me rn is situation recovery

Objectives and scans and room clears are very easy

I just don't know how to survive missing that insta kill swing or triggering alarm w/o resource

and running around the bots so they don't shoot me is hard hahah

[frail heart]

For this i would go check out some of d4rkevas guides, and then just drop into some levels and try to clear rooms without crouching

[tardy ingot]

The more you worry about that the harder of a time you will have

Bots actually dont shoot players that much. Especially if you give them the right weapons

Then if you focus on using tools well and shooting youll not have that many issues

As for loot. Terminals

[woven jackal]

Wtf

how are you all moving at mach 9

[fathom ice]

fov

[woven jackal]

and hammering doors down in sync

Is doesn't even look like gtfo ts looks like cod zombies with that speed run

[tiny wyvern]

FOV

[tiny wyvern]

Coordination

Oh yeah um unless you're stupid like me don't play on default FOV

[frail heart]

yeah its just speedrunning

[woven jackal]

It's nice to see that alarm doors aren't done differently haha

But placing sentries backwards is actually pretty smart

Since they catch the ones chasing you

[thick stump]

and shooting you as well xD

[tiny wyvern]

Depends on what you want out of sentries

And what andy said, if it shoots you it hurts

[thick stump]

I am not sure what you mean by this, there are a lot of very different alarm doors with special alarms, so actually many alarms are done different

[tiny wyvern]

You still have to stand in the scans, do the scans and then proceed to the next sscan

[thick stump]

that's true, that's the same everywhere

[woven jackal]

that is what I mean

It was just self assurance in case I was doing anything inefficient during them

[frail heart]

Our sentry placements are pretty much never optimal

i wouldnt take them as the best

[tardy ingot]

its more than some of the ones we place like that are hel auto sentries which actually get extra dmg (but are pretty niche outside of specific alarms and speedruns)

The speeds are fun and all. But aside from learning that you can shoot up waaaay more than you think they arent great for beginners to learn from. Especially compared to the guides

[gritty talon]

ay how do u get the custom name color

[thick stump]

that's a mod, but I don't know how it is called, maybe you can find it or someone else knows the name

[tardy ingot]

For a second I was unsure if they were talking about the one in discord

I didnt even think of the ingame names xD

[gritty talon]

i want like a tuff ingame name

[raven copper]

horselightracing is one i use

can customize ALOT

[civic wave]

i don't like that one because constant visual changes

[burnt inlet]

yea sniff is one of those 🚬

[raven copper]

:<

[gritty talon]

fellas

is playing gtfo with one hand challenge doable

[ocean spindle]

doable but why

[gritty talon]

goon clarity lock in mode

[burnt inlet]

Yes I do that whenever I see scout, hybrids or big chickens

[topaz python]

reattempting R2E1

fuck it we ball

[ocean spindle]

:O

balls!

[topaz python]

nahhhhhhh that went bad

didnt get past the first surge in 4 attempts

[ocean spindle]

shit

[topaz python]

no idea how we did it first try yesterday

[ocean spindle]

classical dark souls effect
first try is awesome, next 40 are shhit

[topaz python]

tried a classic 3 hellauto firing squad as recomended but it didnt go over well

[ocean spindle]

3 helauto????

goddamn

the tool on the lvl was scared

[topaz python]

we did foam, mines, biotrascker, and burst last time

maybe thats the way to go?

[ocean spindle]

iii would probably drop foam for the helauto
that or just chhange the burst for the helauto but admittedly thats diff approaches

at the end theres likes 3 4 alarms u cannot foam for

not at the end of the lvl - its an expression

[topaz python]

oh shit

what would you recomend then?

[ocean spindle]

probs burst helauto and mines cuz the blood door + some alarms can use them

and burst + backdmg hel auto is nuts

[timber shoal]

we call that french kissing

[ocean spindle]

it kills shit lik a meat grinder but without the meat or the grind

[ocean spindle]

when is it mah turn

[topaz python]

will defiently attempt

[timber shoal]

come place your burst sentry with my hel auto :>

[ocean spindle]

u go gaming gamer

i trust

[topaz python]

thank you thank you

I will get it!

I got many friends to start playing

[ocean spindle]

thats so cool

wish my friends irl liked gtfo but they aint evn gamers msdkms

[topaz python]

I play with my gf and shes right next to me on her monitor

its peak

[upbeat flame]

I wish I could get my hb to play GTFO but unfortunately he's focused on "studies" and having something called a "life"

terrible stuff really

[timber shoal]

lameeeeeeeee

[tacit cedar]

anyone know how to set up a custom resolution for this game

[vestal crest]

Is there a weapon I can put on bots that does less FF than burst cannon but still does decent work?

[prime musk]

the general advice is mg (veruta) to save ammo and give you some cover and burst cannon if you want them to help kill stuff

[vestal crest]

Makes sense

I’m doing. R4d2 and the cluster scans cause massive ff lol

[prime musk]

you should consider permafoaming like all the alarms

not every alarm ofc but

the class 6 and the class 7 can both be permafoamed very effectively

class 3 and 4 with foam + mines are also very very free

that leaves shooting class 5 and 8, which you have more than enough ammo for if you foam the rest.

[vestal crest]

We were holding off on foam for the early alarms, but wiped to a bot ff

[prime musk]

if you wiped to bot ff you're positioning incorrectly

like in what world do all of you die to bot ff

[vestal crest]

Scans by a broken door + more spawns behind the same door

[prime musk]

regardless of strats

if you're in a situation where you think the bot is likely to ff you

it is worth to shoot the bot just to get rid of the risk

[vestal crest]

It’s kinda hard when he sneaks up behind you going for a scan

[prime musk]

only during the final alarm is there a teamscan after the first one, and that room is so large the issue described shouldn't occur

[vestal crest]

Yeah

It was the class 5 I think we wiped at

[prime musk]

read the scan position and make a decision

the class 5 is lowkey pretty terrible just because of the room

[vestal crest]

Still it only takes a random misjudgment for bishop to kill 1-2 people

Yeah that room sucks

We had all spawns on the door closest to the scan door

And all scans landed close to that door

We would have been fine but we just didn’t notice bishop

[prime musk]

you can funnel waves north

[vestal crest]

True

That’s smart

[prime musk]

reducing the chance massively that they come through the door near sec door

as insurance, you can mine it and if they do decide to path like so anyways, you can start permafoaming it

[vestal crest]

We got to the last scan on our first try but ran out of ammo, then our second we had FF there, it doesn’t seem too bad for a D mission

[prime musk]

the mission is genuinely somewhat ammo tight

[vestal crest]

Just need less chance of bishop punishing us

[prime musk]

this is why foam is your friend, since it completely deletes the class 6 and 7 if you set it up correctly

[vestal crest]

Yup

Like I said we were trying to go light on foam for the class 5

Save for the 6 and 7

[prime musk]

yeah valid

[vestal crest]

For the 8 should we foam the 3 doors just once?

We also kinda ran tight on tool

[prime musk]

for the 8 you're just playing to mine all the doors and foam them, and if you have tool after that, permafoam them

[vestal crest]

Ah

That scan seems like it can be a little overwhelming

[prime musk]

at that point if you have played correctly you should have a surplus of ammo to work with

[vestal crest]

Yeah for our first run we used too much ammo, we shouldn’t have issues next time we get there

[prime musk]

the back of the room (closer to sec door) lends itself VERY well to playing line guns (hel gun and hel rifle)

[vestal crest]

Yup we have both lol

First run we didn’t though

[prime musk]

if you want to minmax it you should (team wide) stick to one of them, since they are both very strong but don't have strong synergy

but realistically that shouldn't matter

[vestal crest]

Yeah

Again I doubt it will be too hard, just wanted to ask what other weapons to give bishop

[prime musk]

veruta is the answer you are looking for

[vestal crest]

One person on my team kinda refuses to learn how to dodge bot ff so it’s worthwhile I think

[prime musk]

ye

[vestal crest]

Veruta is more ammo efficient right?

At least on bots

[prime musk]

no. it is ammo conservative, in that the bot runs out of ammo slower, but it doesn't actually kill more for you per ammo use

[vestal crest]

Oh gotcha

[prime musk]

but if you want ammo efficiency burst cannon is THE gun

hel rifle is also good for ammo efficiency but you know. it has worse ff than burst cannon.

[vestal crest]

Yeah

It seems counterintuitive that BC is ammo efficient lol

[prime musk]

the reason is that bots have burst cancel.

[vestal crest]

Yeah

So they can just fire 1 shot

[prime musk]

so they effectively get a 22dmg single fire gun with 20 shots per ammo.
as a comparison hel gun is 16dmg 15 shots per ammo. (not exact but close enough)

[vestal crest]

Dayum

Makes sense that the burst weapon would technically have really good efficiency

[prime musk]

im not sure about other burst fire weapons but i would imagine they go about the same

burst cannon also has the advantage of having REALLY good breakpoints into everything

[vestal crest]

Do bots get a damage buff on other weapons? I feel like I’ve seen bots do crazy damage to giants with hel revo

[prime musk]

no

[vestal crest]

I might be going crazy then

[prime musk]

bots just actually press m1 more than humans do a lot

like magdumping hel revo into giants is actually pretty fast at killing them, even though it isn't too efficient

[vestal crest]

Im guessing im getting it confused with a single BC shot

In our r5e1 runs there were so many times that me and 1 other would hammer a big, then one shot would finish it off

Maybe hel revo can, idk seems unlikely

[prime musk]

if you hit occi + back you deal 100 dmg. and burst cannon would finish that off

[vestal crest]

Yeah so I probably just misheard the gun

[ocean spindle]

a lot pf guns when heard by another person do have repetitive sound effects

like about every auto sounds the exact same

[topaz python]

absolute tragedy

[grizzled patrol]

Hel revo does kill a Giant with one mag If you mag dump into the Back. With multiple Bots Shooting at the Front it can kill pretty quickly aswell

[vestal crest]

Yeah, I was just confused because it sounded like a single hel revo shot from 1 bot

[keen seal]

surely they quickswapped burst cannon into hel revo or something

[tiny wyvern]

No, they just burst cancel

[keen seal]

I was talking about the sound carrying over

[tiny wyvern]

It could also just be bugged audio or a funny revolver somewhere

[vestal crest]

It happens pretty consistently. I know what 3rd person hel revo and BC sound like, unless there are weird exceptions

Hammer to occi does 60?

And regular back hit does 40?

[burnt inlet]

https://boston54.github.io/gtfo-calculator/

[keen seal]

yes 20* 1,5 * 2

[burnt inlet]

Depends which enemy ig

[keen seal]

if we are talking about a normal giant

and back is 40

[vestal crest]

For some reason I thought occi was 4x multiplier for giant

[keen seal]

nah it's 3

[vestal crest]

2 tapping giants would be funny though

[keen seal]

I mean you get to 2 tap hybrids and chickens

since their heads don't break

[vestal crest]

Yeah

[burnt inlet]

You can if both you on client

[vestal crest]

Lmao

[burnt inlet]

Hit at the same time an ez

[vestal crest]

My team could honestly probably do that consistently

We got really good at sync in r5e1

Not that I will ever remember that it is a thing lol

[burnt inlet]

I mean the timeframe is lowest ping to host prolly

[burnt inlet]

You can do it to cscouts easily though

Like

Giga easy

[vestal crest]

Damn

[burnt inlet]

Literally free

[vestal crest]

With host?

Or only client

I know host is possible

[burnt inlet]

Slightly worse but still consistent

Client is best case i believe

Actually i dont snow

[vestal crest]

It makes sense that client would be slightly more lenient

[burnt inlet]

But client should be slightly ahead of host if ur going that route

And the highest pinged client should be slightly ahead of lowest ping client if ur going that route

[vestal crest]

R7c3 about to be free

Too bad we already did it, can’t experiment

[keen seal]

idk if you wanna bother with getting double occis when giants are free with 2 people anywasy

[vestal crest]

Is it just me or is the r7c3 overload stupidly hard?

Like especially without checkpoints

[burnt inlet]

Uhhhh honestly dont remember it being that hard

[vestal crest]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking

[burnt inlet]

But rng i guess

[tiny wyvern]

I mean you get to shoot stuff
Theoretically it's not really REALLY bad

It's tough
especially after some time of not shooting

[vestal crest]

For some reason my team struggled on that level more than any r4 level so far (no d2 or e1)

R4c3 felt easier even though people say it’s hard (I think??)

[burnt inlet]

R4E1 gonna be harder

[vestal crest]

Obviously lol

[burnt inlet]

It’s one of the hardest PE’s, realistically with a decent team not that bad

Depends on loadout

[vestal crest]

We did it in 3 tries I think

[burnt inlet]

An if scout after main bulkhead is deep or close

[vestal crest]

R7c3 took like 7

[burnt inlet]

R7C3 is just a diff playing style

It is PE right?

[vestal crest]

Ye

[burnt inlet]

Haven’t seen it be in the top charts

Iirc @tardy ingot said R4C3, R5C2, R6D3 are top 3 hardest PE’s

[vestal crest]

We haven’t skipped a PE except for r7c3, which we had to go back for (first attempt we accidentally locked ourselves out of overload)

[tardy ingot]

wat

no

[ripe hamlet]

r6d3pe is not hard

[vestal crest]

R5c3 is ez tho

[tardy ingot]

also R5C3??

[ripe hamlet]

thats crazy

[burnt inlet]

Misspelt

[tardy ingot]

R6D3 is super solved

[burnt inlet]

🚬

Ig I misremembered

[ripe hamlet]

r6c3pe is harder

[burnt inlet]

Anyways i snow R4C3 and R5C2 is up there

[tardy ingot]

R4C3, R4D2 and R5C2 are the 3 hardest PEs (actual PEs)

[vestal crest]

Oh wait yeah r5c2 was tough

[burnt inlet]

R5C2 aint that bad tho

[tardy ingot]

moth, solo r7e1 brazil skip rn

[burnt inlet]

🚬

Fuh you mean

I’m sick as a mofo

[vestal crest]

We got bad luck with mother at the end of reactor 3 times so it felt worse than it was sinking like an hour and a half each attempt

[digital mural]

the GTFO experience right there

[ripe hamlet]

just install cconsole

[burnt inlet]

I mean worst case scenario you let her birth have host on sawed off

[ripe hamlet]

me but with r4c2pe duo

[vestal crest]

Our Strat was dogshit and she never spawned once, we waited and failed a password because of it

[raven copper]

long kiting a whole reactor wave is fun

[burnt inlet]

Vas????

[vestal crest]

We held in tank room, and waves got so slow that she never spawned

[burnt inlet]

Still want to beat it with three bots

[burnt inlet]

So what you got waves until code expired?

[vestal crest]

Yup

[burnt inlet]

wtf

[vestal crest]

Trickles of enemies

[burnt inlet]

Kinda crazy

[ripe hamlet]

nice

[burnt inlet]

I hold in reactor but close to tank room

[vestal crest]

We were worried about mom so we never committed to code

[digital mural]

that sucks

[burnt inlet]

Have one guy run off to grab code

[vestal crest]

Yeah entrance hallway was good

[raven copper]

not that hard I don't think

[tardy ingot]

hold in reactor

for last wave of R5C2

ngl

[burnt inlet]

It’s not that bad

[vestal crest]

We did after a while but didn’t know of the charger feelers so that sucked

[burnt inlet]

What loadout on the guy that ran off?

[vestal crest]

Lmao you don’t want to know

[burnt inlet]

🚬

AR HAR

[vestal crest]

We left the burst cannon and hel riffle person to defend mom

I think the other had veruta

So no go on code

Plus we didn’t know where term was

[burnt inlet]

What was their main?

[ripe hamlet]

thats your problem

you have veruta

[burnt inlet]

^

[raven copper]

veruta goated

[vestal crest]

We were trying out things because “it’s a c tier, what could go wrong” lol

[burnt inlet]

:3

[ripe hamlet]

its r5

[burnt inlet]

^

[vestal crest]

R5 is crazy lol

[burnt inlet]

R5C1 should’ve prepped you ngl

An B1

an B2

[vestal crest]

C1 is the most scared I’ve been playing a GTFO level lol

[burnt inlet]

They’re not hard you just cant throw or like be bleh

Team am i really gonna hop on R5C2 bots only 🥀

[vestal crest]

Respawn room stealth with shadow big alarm was terrifying lol

[ripe hamlet]

do it

[burnt inlet]

You just rush thru :3

[vestal crest]

Hindsight is a bitch

[burnt inlet]

I’m a masochist or smth

Yeppers

[ripe hamlet]

bots actually goated against shadow youll be fine

[burnt inlet]

The humble shadow in R5C2

Tbf there are

But like

Non issue

[vestal crest]

Like 1 wave right?

Random ah shadows

[burnt inlet]

No its after main bulkhead door

[vestal crest]

Oh right

[burnt inlet]

You have a shadow alarm and a shadow zone

[vestal crest]

Reactor is special tho

Random shadow wave

[burnt inlet]

Freest alarm and zone ever

[vestal crest]

True

[burnt inlet]

And that wave is coded like an alarm wave

[vestal crest]

I love the r5 reactors tbh

[ripe hamlet]

shadow has never been an issue unless you play duo and its error with heavy object carry

[vestal crest]

R5c2 is peak gaming

[burnt inlet]

R5D1 reactor only bad reactor in there i think

[burnt inlet]

I really enjoy it

[vestal crest]

Oh right d1 exists

D2 makes up for it imo

[ripe hamlet]

r5d1 😍

[tardy ingot]

reactor shutdowns arent rly reactors

[vestal crest]

D1 doesn’t count as a reactor it’s a shutdown

[burnt inlet]

Yea yea

[vestal crest]

^

[burnt inlet]

Stfu

It’s in the name

REACTOR shutdown

[ripe hamlet]

why am i getting yelled at vro

[vestal crest]

Common sense is not common

[burnt inlet]

You love R5D1

[ripe hamlet]

real

[burnt inlet]

You think i have common sense?

Anyways im thinking about streaming my attempt

🤔

Would be mute Andy tho

[vestal crest]

Doesn’t r5d2 have the weird code that you have to run through respawn rooms for?

[burnt inlet]

Yep

[raven copper]

gonna go an jus hate an you the whole time

[vestal crest]

That was a lot of fun

[burnt inlet]

Nvm not streaming it

[ripe hamlet]

just wait for last code and kill tanks

[vestal crest]

Hate watch party?

[ripe hamlet]

no need to run for extract

[burnt inlet]

🥀

[ripe hamlet]

ezclap

[raven copper]

im jk, im in a very bad mood but im not gonna take it out on you lol

I will on kenyi instead

[burnt inlet]

Ye i snow

[burnt inlet]

God exists

🙏

And its good

[raven copper]

mashallah

[ripe hamlet]

[burnt inlet]

Insallah the mod folder gets deleted

[vestal crest]

Do you think going from r5e1 to r4e1 will be easier or harder?

Playing blind

Mostly

[raven copper]

both are difficult

id say equally

[ripe hamlet]

r4e1 blind probably harder

[raven copper]

but ye

[burnt inlet]

I think atp it’s just like play style

[vestal crest]

Fair

[ripe hamlet]

unless its cs blind

then thats peak and you should do it

[burnt inlet]

Cs blind 🥀

[raven copper]

conceptually 2 different styles of lvl

[burnt inlet]

Imagine they like

Think cs is the proper way

[raven copper]

if your good at one it'll be easier than the other

[vestal crest]

Oh goodie!

[burnt inlet]

Tbh i can very much see how someone would get confused

And do cs

Instead of normal route

[vestal crest]

I’m missing an abbreviation.

[burnt inlet]

Cell skip

[vestal crest]

Cell skip?

[burnt inlet]

Dw about it

[vestal crest]

Ah

[burnt inlet]

You like

Skip on cells

[vestal crest]

Ik

I thought you were talking about r4

[burnt inlet]

Na

[vestal crest]

R4e1 new Strat?

Czechoslovakia skip?

[burnt inlet]

Aight who here wants to watch

[vestal crest]

I got an exam in 45 minutes lol

[burnt inlet]

😭

Cro

Go study

[vestal crest]

Nah it’s just an ethics class

[final terrace]

i dont think you should be studying 45 minutes before your exam lmao

[burnt inlet]

oh ez

[vestal crest]

Real gs do that tho

[burnt inlet]

you dont know about the prep phase

preload the test into ur RAM

[ripe hamlet]

you cram for 45 mins and forget everything the moment you step out of the exam room

[burnt inlet]

its a strat ive done it

[ripe hamlet]

ezclap

[burnt inlet]

no you dont cram

[final terrace]

or, if you're unlucky, the moment you step into the exam room

[ripe hamlet]

its called the "ill just game and nap a little before studying fr i get time" strats

then you wake up in the morning instead of half an hour nap

[vestal crest]

GTFO before grades or something like that

[burnt inlet]

https://discord.gg/35bbAzJM @raven copper

[raven copper]

give me a minute

[burnt inlet]

i have a test in 2 days

kinda a big one

but im so sick 😭

[vestal crest]

Get better

Easy

[burnt inlet]

sure hope i will (at gtfo)

[vestal crest]

They don’t want you to know this 1 simple trick

Simply infect yourself with every disease on week 1 then be fine all semester/quarter

[burnt inlet]

TRUTHNUKE

almost woke a scout

[ocean spindle]

wwhys everyone on a vc

[tiny wyvern]

I'm not on one

[ocean spindle]

join one

:3

[tiny wyvern]

Woods is having a speedrun attempt/discussion (eva's there for that)

Hybrid's just doing runs

And Flyer's just a waiting room

[ripe hamlet]

flyer is moth trying r5c2 with bots

[ocean spindle]

dumdum

[burnt inlet]

fuh you mean

[tiny wyvern]

Weren't you waiting for 1/2 to join you?

[burnt inlet]

no

[tiny wyvern]

huh

[burnt inlet]

im doing R5C2 fake solo

[tiny wyvern]

Guess that was yesterday

[burnt inlet]

the slander

this cell room is ass

at least i got class 4 done in one wave

[burnt inlet]

this run fucking sucks

kms

[ripe hamlet]

you can do it

[burnt inlet]

where is @raven copper

i want my hatewatcher

[vestal crest]

Is there any lore significance to r8a2 secondary or is it just a funny joke level?

[frail heart]

are you the same person or do you just keep changing your name

[vestal crest]

Uh same name different pfp

Idk don’t ask

Imma change it before I forget

[flint raven]

Is it better to bring a sniper sentry or a burst sentry? Bioscanner is almost constantly pinging but I can’t really tell which is better

Also does waves stop spawning if too many enemies are still alive/ putting a turret behind a closed door bad because enemies will just keep spawning?

[timber shoal]

sniper sentry if you have bio and know how to position it correctly

burst if there are almost exclusively regular strikers/shooters

[timber shoal]

pretty much yeah

past a certain number of enemies alive no more can spawn

[flint raven]

So like r1?

[flint raven]

That’s aiming at an angle correct?

[timber shoal]

nah if an alarm has even like a handful of giants sniper’s still better if you have bio

[timber shoal]

making sure the sentry has a good sightline basically

don’t aim it into walls an shit

[flint raven]

Ah sorry though you went bio

But I get you thank you big help

Oh one more thing is higher back damage still a thing or was that removed?

[timber shoal]

for players, back damage exists, for sentries, only hel auto sentry benefits from the back multiplier

[flint raven]

Your the goat

[timber shoal]

hehe no problem :3

[ripe hamlet]

depends on map layout

if you get long line sniper beat burst every time

even without bio

[raven copper]

dodo is my goat too vro carries me all the time

[livid stone]

Yes it shows a different team but haters will say its non canon

[burnt inlet]

It’s just a “what if the team took a wrong turn” type angle

[vestal crest]

Ah ok so it is kind of a throw away level for funnies

[tardy ingot]

its the tutorial revamped

[timber shoal]

“eliminate subject using melee weapon - grip tightly to charge a heavy blow”

banger esp when there’s a pmom in the hallway

[grizzled patrol]

Kinda, it establishes Hammerstine as a sick fuck

[burnt inlet]

the humble double bat

[vestal crest]

Imagine if it forced you to bring the tutorial loadout

[ocean spindle]

wouldnt b bad tbh

[timber shoal]

yeah shotgun into the majority of what you have to deal with wouldn’t be bad

smg obvs is shit but there’s exactly one alarm so like

[grizzled patrol]

Scouts become a forced stealth

[timber shoal]

oh right

forgot there’s 5 nm scouts there

[grizzled patrol]

Unless you pull Off the mythical full Team Shotgun into its back

[mystic rock]

you COULD kill them all

either all shotgun back for the single or freeze game to stack damage on stealth ones

the mythical one cycle kraken

[grizzled patrol]

"Just doorbug them" aah Statement

[mystic rock]

exactly

[safe cradle]

...

[timber shoal]

doorbug the class 5 and dont clear it so you get oneshot trying to get to extract

[safe cradle]

I mean "freezing the game to stack damage" is hilarious but yeah, what Malefic said 🤣

[mystic rock]

you could manage to get past the doorbugged enemies if it wasn't for the fact that it isn't fucking hammer shove

[grizzled patrol]

Bait all of them into attacking and Just walk through them

[safe cradle]

I faintly remember someone saying that doorbugging (and not killing) R8E2 prevents Kraken from spawning

But maybe I'm wrong

[timber shoal]

was gonna say potato still could melee but he chill so he prolly wouldn’t even hit you

[safe cradle]

Fuck nevermind R8A2

[mystic rock]

kraken does need spawncap to spawn xd

[safe cradle]

reading Kraken made me think of R8E2 nevermind

[mystic rock]

do you mean potato

ok just wrong level xd

[safe cradle]

my bad

[grizzled patrol]

He is a good spawncap law abiding citizen

[timber shoal]

e2 should have potato surge instead of nm surge

[grizzled patrol]

At that Point Just Play touhou

[timber shoal]

i want more red projectiles on screen

[ripe hamlet]

kraken surge

[timber shoal]

you see the vision

[burnt inlet]

when the kraken surges

[timber shoal]

modded rundown with kraken surge in the a tier

i would be a good mod creator i prommy 🥺

[burnt inlet]

😭

[timber shoal]

gonna learn how to code just to make gtfo mods

[upbeat flame]

My friends doing that rn

I think he already knows how to code but he’s tweakin about making this level

[normal granite]

Someday i will make ribbitdown

Every enemy is a frog trust me

But i actually do want to make a legitimate rundown for me and my group (8+ people)

[timber shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1409039778506080396/1461118339882418246/speed.gif

the sleepers ^^

[ocean spindle]

bouncing sleepers mod when

[timber shoal]

give the sleepers dying light parkour abilities

no more kiting allowed

the bbcs will mantle over your waist high objects to beat you up even more efficiently

[ocean spindle]

idk whats mantle but damn

[timber shoal]

make them hop over railings, small objects, stuff like that basically

they never slow down and dont reroute around objects

[ocean spindle]

ohhh

gaming :O

they would b cool

scary asf but cool

[timber shoal]

like how in r6c1 specifically there’s a spot they hop down a little lip in the ground

between the class 4 cluster and error

that room

or like in r8b2 the uppy downy hole

environmental interaction like that is so peak

[raven copper]

yes make long kiting harder to do so I can die an not have to do it

this is w comms

[timber shoal]

the hope would hopefully be that long kiting in many situations would no longer be viable

like you can still make distance with door reroutes and such

but the enemies are able to keep up much better than vanilla

[raven copper]

yyyyeeeeesssss pls put me out of my misery

[lone sonnet]

is it worth doing secondary objective at r6b2

[timber shoal]

actually could be a nerf to hel weapons as well

[lone sonnet]

do we get ammo out of it?

[timber shoal]

you get some

[raven copper]

depending tile set ye

[timber shoal]

but you’ll be shooting things as a part of the secondary

[lone sonnet]

so not really worth doing

[timber shoal]

make chargers mantle more, slow down less

[raven copper]

like r4e1 second sustain it wont do anything

[timber shoal]

so they take weird alternate routes that dont offer good lines

[raven copper]

[timber shoal]

i mean if you dont care about getting the clear with secondary it probably doesnt help too much

lemme check though

[[R6B2]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R6B2

[timber shoal]

actually sec might give decent resources

all you need to do to get bulkhead key is a blood door

[raven copper]

r6b2 sec gives alot cause its the uplink one no?

[timber shoal]

and the two zones you have open each have a 4 use

[raven copper]

or is that b1 I cant remember

[timber shoal]

yeah it’s uplinks

i couldn’t remember how plentiful ammo was though

[raven copper]

it gives a decent mix of everything

[timber shoal]

each zone in sec has a 4 use

[raven copper]

ye

[timber shoal]

which is goated highkey

not a bad duo level

[raven copper]

its like at the very end of mission too

[timber shoal]

uplinks cooked us once bc i was running burst cannon

and the uplink room is tiny as fuck

[raven copper]

its like a studio apartment of space xd

[timber shoal]

r7b2 type shit

that one fog uplink

[raven copper]

shit

ye

[timber shoal]

good boy

but yeah

b2’s prolly my least favorite r6 level but its still quite solid

the fog is surprisingly un-annoying as long as the scans dont decide to fuck you over

[raven copper]

I love it for the rock climbing in the big room

I was hiding from Jamie in there when log hunting

[timber shoal]

peak

silly ass tile

in like 30 minutes if holo’s on do you wanna do full route r5e1 with him

he needs the clear and i need logs

[burnt inlet]

flowlowkirkenuinely i could join

just need to eat before that

[timber shoal]

i’ll be a moment as well

in org chem rn

[burnt inlet]

ok fuck you

[timber shoal]

1984

[normal granite]

Bbcs run through walls and doors

[raven copper]

I gotta work out first

then ye

[normal granite]

@little pilot thoughts?

[timber shoal]

lowkey the door thing is what imma do as a tank rework

[raven copper]

but its arm day so it'll be shorter than usual

[little pilot]

quantum bbc?

[timber shoal]

tank shouldn’t just let itself get doorfucked like in vanilla

[normal granite]

https://tenor.com/view/kool-aid-man-oh-yeah-gif-10117983411222945873

[timber shoal]

make its pathing treat doors as open areas

and then have its hitbox instabreak doors

shrimple

[timber shoal]

exactly

[raven copper]

well door fuckin itself works on all enemies kind of

its jus them waiting for door to open

[burnt inlet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/time-mr-bean-look-at-the-QBd2kLB5qDmysEXre9

[timber shoal]

have them treat a partially opened door as fully opened perhaps

[raven copper]

ye

[timber shoal]

or give them

[normal granite]

Re code it so they can slide under the doors

[raven copper]

only way to

[timber shoal]

wait

[timber shoal]

this but actually

[normal granite]

https://tenor.com/view/outlast-gif-12291077934469982154

[timber shoal]

have them crawl under the door as it opens

[raven copper]

the one shadow striker following me at 20hp during my long kite

[normal granite]

Hang on that reminds me of a clip i have

Lemme go find it

[timber shoal]

shadow rework is prolly important too

make them appear with more contrast during their attack

[raven copper]

I mean i think shadows are fine

giants are a little more difficult

[timber shoal]

current state they’re slower than the player which means you could long kite them easily even with the mantling

i dont wanna make them like crazy fast

oki im bored of chem

im dippin out

[raven copper]

o you mean like speed

I was talking bout their attacks

its easy to kite

simply audio whore

[timber shoal]

yeah i was meaning if i change their speed i feel like other aspects could be adjusted to make them more fair

[normal granite]

Found it

[raven copper]

but I think thats the balance to them, they arent really able to be seen so they are slow

unironically I think shadows are extremely balanced

[minor fractal]

I think it's because of their attack anim that they get a slow

which is because they are not balanced, lol

Shooter stance shadows are bullshit

Shadow giants are like 3 enemy variants in one

[raven copper]

shadow strikers i feel are fair not giants

[normal granite]

Crouching shadow giants

They act like crabs

[raven copper]

giants are too finicky

the strikers feel balanced ive never had issues with them where I was like thatd bs

shadow giants on the other hand ive had plenty

[keen seal]

THE DEVIL

[normal granite]

R5D1 secondary would like you to return

[raven copper]

ive done jt like 4 times

[minor fractal]

They both have shooter stance

[raven copper]

shadow fog stealth part feels unnecessary

[minor fractal]

And shadow stance attacks are close to instantaneous

[raven copper]

ye ik

[minor fractal]

Vs. if you have hybrid stance, it takes them several years to tongue once

[raven copper]

ive literally never had a problem with shadow striker licks

only giants cause its harder to kite it or stagger it for me

[ocean spindle]

cant shadow giants just not hit u if u walk away

[raven copper]

I dont really know tbh

[uneven kiln]

10 meters

[minor fractal]

Scariest shadow giant stance, btw: https://youtu.be/Nh6bCjiXZdk

[raven copper]

the different giant stances is really annoying though ill give you that

[minor fractal]

The devil is in R8E2

[raven copper]

all shadows in r8e2 have a better ai or something they are crazy

[minor fractal]

They get progressively stronger as people play the level

They remember your past attempts

[fathom ice]

yessss

[raven copper]

they have to be

they play better defense than most NFL teams

[tacit cedar]

my favorite e2 shadow giant moment

[hardy grotto]

They learn how you play and counter you

[crystal blaze]

FUCK THAT SECONDARY

[hardy grotto]

Adversarial gtfo at its finest

[crystal blaze]

GOD I HATE P-MOMS

[burnt inlet]

Bosses are fine I think the shadow part sucks ass

[crystal blaze]

That whole mission is just R1D1 if you HAD to go into side-rooms

I hate

Only hate

[burnt inlet]

R5D1 is just R1D1 but unfun and unnecessarily long

[crystal blaze]

Exactly!

[burnt inlet]

Keycard into keycard into keycard into alarm

🥀

An the keycard zone don’t even open up that much for the alarm

[raven copper]

vro you forgot the other keycard

[burnt inlet]

Could’ve shrunk it down to one keycard

[crystal blaze]

Could’ve shrunk it down to just alarms

[crystal blaze]

You forgor the cell 💀💀💀

And the other cell 💀💀💀

[burnt inlet]

Ok my bad i did the level a bajillion years ago and never went back (i went back for log)

[crystal blaze]

(The funny dog log)

[sinful lake]

You given them an inch, they'll take a mile.

[upbeat flame]

Genuinely why are shadow giants so bad

I thought they would just be giants but invisible but those mfs

Hit fighting game combos

And move way faster than other giants

[ocean spindle]

cuz invisible and v fast if they r crouchin

and if they are on the shooter up position

attack at the speed of light

[upbeat flame]

Yeah like why can they do that LMAO, that’s horrifying

[ocean spindle]

cuz of the anim

[upbeat flame]

First time I saw a shadow giants crouching I was like huh, this sleeper is bigger than normal

[sleek roost]

How do we crouch on steam with an Xbox controller?

[raven copper]

probably some ungodly shit like B xd

[ocean spindle]

check steams controller setup probs

is also where to change controls if u need i think

[unborn agate]

anyone got any tips for r2d2? im getting rekt

[timber shoal]

what tools are you running and how far into the reactor have you gotten?

[unborn agate]

with 3 of us we got 9/10 almost finished, but solo i got to 6/10 :/

[timber shoal]

what tools were you running?

[unborn agate]

solo, mine deployer, 2 burst sentries, bio tracker
3 of us: sniper sentry, burst sentry, burst sentry, bio tracker

[timber shoal]

alright, double sniper sentry might treat you better but not bad there

where were you holding reactor waves?

[unborn agate]

usually in the main reactor

the first terminal

[timber shoal]

alright, that's gonna be where you'll wanna switch up your strategy

reactor hold on r2d2 is quite difficult

[unborn agate]

would u be willing to run it with me to teach me? ❤️

[timber shoal]

lowkey doing a chemistry assignment rn 😔

otherwise id run it with you

lemme grab the r2d2 map so i can show you where to hold

[[R2D2]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R2D2

[timber shoal]

wrong one

fuck

there we go

sometimes a shooter will try to break the door you're holding by so if that happens open the door asap so it doesnt break

[runic roost]

Dont get caught lacking cuz everyone NEEDS to shoot

Had people sit there just watching before

[raven copper]

everyone gotta mag dump everything

blow up everyone on the map

[upbeat flame]

https://tenor.com/view/rdc-gun-shooting-gif-14319791934715398950

[unborn agate]

Oh interesting, one of the guys I was playing with has like 3000 hours and didn’t suggest this he just held reactor and the west room door after it was opened

That does seem like a good choke hold tho

Did u finish ur chemistry? I just had to grab some lunch

[timber shoal]

if you've got a skilled enough team its certainly possible to hold reactor

[frail heart]

what was their name

[raven copper]

^

[timber shoal]

just more work

and harder

so not really any point

[unborn agate]

Why? That sounds almost like calling them out, they’re my friend i didn’t mean it in a mean way I just meant im surprised it wasn’t suggested

[frail heart]

oh no it was more just i wanted to know if i knew them

you can absolutely hold in reactor

its just easier with other strats

[unborn agate]

Oh he’s in this server as Ooni, or on steam his name is Unexist I think?

[frail heart]

ah

yeah idk him

[unborn agate]

Yeah everyone always asks cause they think with that many hours they should know of them haha but they mainly ran with the same SEA team / group of friends https://steamcommunity.com/id/UnexistSteam/

Also it was 2200 not 3000 mb

[frail heart]

yeah if they're asian theres a good chance idk them

they usually stick to their own communities

[unborn agate]

Yeah I’m Australian myself

So I play with oce

So I meet usually lots of SEA because especially in niche games, there’s no Aussies playing Lol

[frail heart]

im stuck playing with europeans 😔