gtfo-related-questions

[frail heart]

R7A1

One term command

[hoary mason]

idk 1 checkpoint only

get better

[normal granite]

well yeah, but i mean non gamer route

[hazy lion]

whats a good level to get the biotracker achievement on

[tardy ingot]

R1B1
R2B1 is ok too

[burnt inlet]

R1B1 is the most safe one, R2B1 iirc is a bit quicker (but not as safe)

[grave orchid]

so dont shut the door? i dont have mines

[frail heart]

Yeah don’t shut the door

Btw this level is decently hard for an A tier

If you want an easier one you could try out r6a1

[grave orchid]

im all g if i can master this then other levels will be easier

[burnt inlet]

Other A tiers will be easier*

Well

Depends which ones Tbf

[grave orchid]

yeah

[burnt inlet]

Just continue down R1 after youve done R1A1

[grave orchid]

im just one-tap rn, and thats all im worried about if barely

[burnt inlet]

Do you have bots?

[grave orchid]

dont think so—this is my first mission right after tutorial

[burnt inlet]

Press escape

And press the red “locked” button

And make it “bots only”

And do that for all three of them

[grave orchid]

ohhh wait yeah im completely solo rn

[burnt inlet]

trust me youll need it ;3

[grave orchid]

yeah i turned that stuff off before i launched

[tardy ingot]

Youll want it*

[grave orchid]

uh, yeah im running solo like a psychopath

[burnt inlet]

Wellllll im basing it off Lazarus current situation

[burnt inlet]

It is psychopathic for majority of this game to run solo

[grave orchid]

aight turned on bots this time

[mystic rock]

nah bash your head at the wall until you do r1a1 solo trust

[grave orchid]

i gotchu i gotchu

[burnt inlet]

Jade with the solo propaganda 😭

[mystic rock]

I propaganda solo clears

[grave orchid]

getting mixed signals here

[mystic rock]

duo clears*

[grave orchid]

just gonna send it

nah there was a big boi rip

[mystic rock]

womp

[grave orchid]

well glad i know i can turn on my imaginary friends at will

[burnt inlet]

Some people cant do that yanno

[dreamy socket]

I can, its very comforting sometimes

[grave orchid]

is it controller compatible

[dreamy socket]

No 🥀

[burnt inlet]

Yes but act like it isn’t

Like a third of the game becomes terrible

[grave orchid]

just came across a silly little guy

and im glad it doesnt care about my high beam

[burnt inlet]

Love em

[burnt inlet]

Only think it cares about is if you touch it :3

Well

If you shoot or a sleeper screams in your room it also doesn’t get happy

[final terrace]

or if you shoot in general

they are less sensitive to sound but they still react to loud ones

[grave orchid]

yeah, so that little guy didnt really like it when i tickled him with a few bullets

[final terrace]

bullpup scout kill 🔥

[burnt inlet]

Yea I meant or I am sleepyhead

[burnt inlet]

Did he fetch his goons too?

[grave orchid]

yeah but it was light work (i was stuck in a hack while they rushed)

[burnt inlet]

You can cancel hacks via just swapping to another like item

:3

[mystic rock]

you can cancel hacks by just pressing any gear key

[grave orchid]

rip bozo lol

[burnt inlet]

Or scroll wheel

Or move away

[mystic rock]

that's a gear key

[burnt inlet]

Is scroll wheel a key?

[mystic rock]

using gear in the general term of anything that makes something that you own pop up and key as just any input that can cause it

[burnt inlet]

True

[final terrace]

well scroll wheel is an input, not a key

[burnt inlet]

(They’re a vet let’s leave them alone frfr)

[mystic rock]

like you can just press your hack key and it cancels it

[burnt inlet]

Since you a vet I’ll let you have this one

[mystic rock]

ok

[burnt inlet]

Vets are always right surely

[grave orchid]

good news, i found the alarm door, bad news, i found the alarm door

[sudden nexus]

r1a1?

[burnt inlet]

Yes

I think they mean second though?

[sudden nexus]

the humble class iv

[grave orchid]

one of the bots stole my health pack wtf

and they all died immediately oof

im still standing wouldve fit

[timber shoal]

bot moment

[fathom ice]

i would steal a med

[mystic rock]

I ate a kid

[keen seal]

I kicked one

[ebon light]

pull it

[mystic rock]

mf so late

[upper ginkgo]

twist it

[ebon light]

only 25 minutes late

[grave orchid]

tldr: mission failed bots threw by dying too fast, i threw by putting turret in wrong spot

[ebon light]

💔

[upbeat flame]

God I wish bots didn’t stop to shoot

[raven copper]

bots when they stop to melee in a crowd of 500 strikers cause one got a little close

[normal granite]

Bots will pick up resource packs when a player isnt close by

[timber shoal]

i need to melee the spawncap by standing perfectly still in the center of it you just dont get the technique

[ebon light]

just swing really hard and get a 25 hit

[timber shoal]

exactly

you see the vision

[ebon light]

you know me haha

[raven copper]

they cant see me if im perfectly still

[timber shoal]

yeah if you stand still your invincible

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/invulnerable-gif-22484955

[ebon light]

if hes i vincible why can I see hjm

[raven copper]

because you are as well

[ebon light]

wtyfff

[upbeat flame]

Can’t wait for the big man to show up in s4

[grave orchid]

:/

[final terrace]

they will also use them when required

[cloud ember]

For the achievement: "The Inner", is there anyway to track my achievement progress?

My friend has half my hours and got it recently, and I'm confused why I don't yet have it. For reference, I have 500 hours and have beaten every mission in the game except for a few E-tiers

[tardy ingot]

the achievement only started tracking after it became a thing

[civic wave]

you can have someone who has unlocked the achievement check your progress on steam iirc

[tardy ingot]

regarding progress checking. iirc someone who has the achievement can check your profile and see it or smth like that

[civic wave]

and yea, only level drops after rundown 8 count, and different levels count for different amounts

so if your friend replayed one level 30 times that'd be a big boost

[carmine crescent]

for the all logs achievement, do you have to beat the mission for it to count towards the achievement?

[cloud ember]

So- only drops that are in rundown 8, or only after rundown 8 was released?

[civic wave]

drops after r8 release

[cloud ember]

He found my progress. Thanks!

[cloud ember]

Like, if you collect the logs and then die right after?

[carmine crescent]

yeah

[ebon light]

no

the second you pick up a log it gets collected

you can go in get log exit out

[carmine crescent]

alrighty

thanks

[ebon light]

mhm

[cloud ember]

Is there any place we can get the exact zones of the logs? Like a spreadsheet or index online?

[ebon light]

yes one sec

https://andocas.com/gtfo/log-tracker/

[cloud ember]

Oh my gosh thank you

[slow lantern]

Hey, I'm still pretty new at the game and was wonder. Why is it that when hit a sleeper in gtfo right next to another one why does it sometimes not wake up the other one and sometimes it does

[tiny wyvern]

There's two forms of aggro: Long range and close range aggro

There's a wiki thread that explains it pretty well, I can dig it up for you if you want

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Enemies#Dispatching_Procedures_&_Understanding_the_aggro

Here's the better explanation
Short version: Enemy close to each other, hit one the other will wake up (Noise from melee) ->Short range Aggro
Enemy slightly far away but can see each other (Even with no eyes), will wake up if they see their friend getting hit and dying. ->Long range Aggro

@slow lantern anything else? or is there something you don't understand

[slow lantern]

what is the best way to kill a scout. i'm kind of struggling on killing them

[tiny wyvern]

Sledge or Spear: Full charge hit to head (The charge timing is less than that, but for beginners better safe than sorry)

Knife or Bat: Full charge to the back of the head

Certain weapons can one shot scouts

And not engaging with enemies that aren't in your way is generally a good strategy as well

[slow lantern]

i'm trying to play solo so getting proficient on killing them will be good down the road

[tiny wyvern]

@prime musk can give you better pointers on that front than I can, but ye what I described should be fine

[prime musk]

play this mod

with hammer

[slow lantern]

what does the mod do?

[prime musk]

it is a mod with practice maps for killing scouts

i realise it\s not very fun, but practice makes perfect

[slow lantern]

i assume that if i fail it doesn't spawn a wave

[prime musk]

no it still spawns a wave

but it\s like

it has checkpoint doors

and then you need to melee a bunch of scouts to make it to next door

[tiny wyvern]

It's essentially a scout 'playground' of sorts
You can train yourself to fight scouts

And 'have fun'

[prime musk]

it\s not too fun but when i was a new player i played that mod until i cleared the first map

it\s just normal scouts

[slow lantern]

i assume its on thunderstore?

[prime musk]

you can probably get it there

but everyone uses r2modman

[tiny wyvern]

There's a couple more things related to scouts you might want, like the breakpoint thingy, but that might be too complicated

(I do miss the days when I can just ask tru stuff whenever he comes by)

[prime musk]

ig i should give something about how to hit the scout melee as well

you should either be not jumping and aiming directly at head with hitscan melee, OR be jumping and using swing arc melee for best consistency with hammer

[slow lantern]

can you only kill them after the do that feeler thing??

[tiny wyvern]

No, as long as you haven't woken them up you can kill them

If you want I can stream my game to you and teach you along the way

[slow lantern]

sure

i'm using the mod now to practice wish i didn't have to take the cage everytime i died tho

[prime musk]

once you make it past the first room you get the checkpoint

and resets become a lot faster

[tiny wyvern]

Join https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/786965429116600420
(Note: I suck at this game, so this may not be the best learning experience ever)

[prime musk]

you can also boot it with the mod cconsole enabled at same time

and you can enable god mode

[tiny wyvern]

Oh yeah can you syringe kill cscouts with knives or is there just not enough to go around?

[fathom ice]

nop

[prime musk]

no

[winter breach]

Nah just use the newest nvidia gpu and use its ai to play it for you and all you have to do is just yap

[crude canopy]

what weapons are meta?

[fathom ice]

sawed off

[thick stump]

MAIN
Oppressive: Sawed-Off
Best-in-slot: HEL Shotgun / HEL Revo
Second-choice: Carbine / DMR / HEL Autopistol
Niche or Mediocre: DTR / PDW / Pistol / Slug Shotgun / Burst Rifle
Bad: Machine Pistol / Burst Pistol / Rifle
Excessively Bad: SMG / Heavy SMG / Bullpup
No Redeeming Qualities: Assault Rifle

SPECIAL
Oppressive: Scattergun
Best-in-slot: HEL Gun / HEL Rifle / Burst Cannon
Second-choice: Combat Shotgun / High-Cal / Shotgun
Niche or Mediocre: Revo / Sniper / Precision Rifle / Choke Mod
Bad: Short Rifle / Veruta
Excessively Bad: Arbalist / HAR

credits to Rayalot

[crude canopy]

holy shit thanks

[tender bay]

minigun

11 clip hel gun

um

anti material shotgun

bio

stasis shotgun

garlic bread

[grizzled patrol]

Banana

[upbeat flame]

Ah man, I like the choke mod :(

Can’t believe my boy is mediocre

[thick stump]

the problem about the choke mod is the hel rifle, it has almost the same amount of bullets, similar damage but the hel rifle can penetrate enemies, which the choke mod doesn't can, so the hel rifle can technically kill double to triple more enemies than the choke mod

[upbeat flame]

Oh really? I thought the choke mod was doing more damage but yeah

Damn :(

[fathom ice]

it's good niche

[tiny wyvern]

It's good for bursting down a giant

...And that's about it

[thick stump]

if you hit all pellets, then you do a little more damage, but that's not that big of a deal

[upbeat flame]

Does it hit a significant break point on giants? Cuz I know you can 4 shot w choke on a giant, but idk w hel rifle

[burnt inlet]

hel rifle best is 2 tap (behind), choke iirc can one tap if you hit head (not sure tho)

[upbeat flame]

One tap head??? Wait I’m geekin

Gotta be occipital huh

[burnt inlet]

i swear ive seen it from front

[fathom ice]

choke does not one tap head nor occi

[burnt inlet]

not sure tho

[calm pulsar]

What are we cooking

[burnt inlet]

nvm

team ive seen one clip of choke

allow it

[calm pulsar]

WHAT ARE WE COOKING

[fathom ice]

yes moth it's called slug mod shotgun from the mod samdown

[burnt inlet]

🚬🚬

[fathom ice]

which taps to head with any damage dumped into the giant before hand

[burnt inlet]

it was a speed

[calm pulsar]

Me when I have my 166% special damage boosters

[fathom ice]

na

it's not even close

[burnt inlet]

prolly dmgd from before

[fathom ice]

choke deals 45 to head and 90 to occi

if all pellets hit

(well a bit more but you get the point)

[calm pulsar]

Choke mod to head from front, does 45 damage

"Erm actually it does 45.12 to front and 90.24 to occi 🤓"

[fathom ice]

ye

[upbeat flame]

Hmmm I’ve been lied to

How much health does a giant have, does that mean choke can still 2 tap then?

[fathom ice]

no

theyre 120

either 4 tap front or 2 tap back

[upbeat flame]

Alright sounds reasonable, but that’s the same ammo efficiency as the hel rifle right?

[fathom ice]

correct

except hel rifle has more ammo

and it can pen multiple giants in a line

[upbeat flame]

Tough luck for the chokemod

[fathom ice]

ye

[thick stump]

that's what I was trying to tell you, both weapons are similar but hel rifle has penetration and kill multiple small enemies with 1 bullet or multiple giants with just 4 bullets

[upbeat flame]

Yeah but I was wondering if it atleast had a niche in giant killing

Turns out same ammo eff there

I’m still prolly gonna use it cuz I like the way it feels

[tardy ingot]

choke is in a bit of a weird spot @upbeat flame

its incredbly role crept. In the past it was:

for a time best charger clear (but now we have hel rifle and hel gun)
at the time good giant clear (scatter, hel rifle and burst cannon)
for a time genuinely good tank clear (scatter, bc)
also solid for wave clear (hel rifle, hel gun, combat shotgun and even sawed off) in comparision to alternatives

[compact saddle]

The Cortex numbers in bottom right of a screen meaning? A seed generated when we first launch the game? Server Account ID? If it is does numbers define the time when account was created? I'll be much appreciated.

[tardy ingot]

version number basically

[compact saddle]

Thank you

[grave orchid]

what is artifact heat

[timber shoal]

affects how quickly you earn boosters by collecting artifacts

if you don’t use boosters it doesn’t affect anything

[civic wave]

more specifically, it's a multiplier on the amount of progress each artifact gives you towards the booster

100% heat = 0.15 progress per artifact
50% heat = 0.075 progress
20% heat = 0.03 progress

[timber shoal]

true and real

[grave orchid]

how does heat change?

[timber shoal]

the more artifacts you pick up the more heat goes down

and it goes back up if you play other levels iirc

[grave orchid]

do the artifacts collected during a run save when you fail an expedition

[ocean spindle]

yes

u can see whhen u collect boosters even after fails

[prime musk]

every artifact you grab in a level lowers the heat of subsequent runs by 1%
every 3(?) artifacts you grab in another level increases heat by 1%

im unsure about the 3, it's something like that

[eager flint]

im new just finish tutorial how do i adjust my loadout?

[sudden nexus]

click on the weapon

it opens a menu

[eager flint]

what weapon? like once i get into a lobby?

[sudden nexus]

yes

[eager flint]

ah ok

[undone raven]

New players when it comes to caring about boosters for no reason

[sudden nexus]

the 100% melee resist "qol" booster

[visual helm]

lookin for love

[sudden nexus]

try r3d1

[digital mural]

Try R7E1

[grizzled patrol]

What is love

[crystal blaze]

R7E1 is the definition of love

Of course, A2Assword is my baby! 🫶

[crystal blaze]

Baby don’t hurt me

Don’t hurt me

No more

[ripe hamlet]

🔥

[trim needle]

This may be a stupid question but what are the low difficulties and what are the high difficulties? For example is tier E considered a high or low difficulty

[ripe hamlet]

A easiest e hardest

Difficulty is only relative in a given rundown

But generally b tier is harder than a tier

[trim needle]

Wouldn't have guessed that, thank you

[timber shoal]

other thing is that when you start dealing with optional objectives it can throw things out of balance, but that only becomes important past r3

[digital mural]

Mmmmm I wonder what the difficulty is supposed to be for E tiers if it's the last level you unlock in some rundowns

[timber shoal]

a tiers are the hardest because i can’t beat them all by my self 🥺 🥺

[digital mural]

Noob

[sudden nexus]

literally what im sayin

if you have a tiers unlocked to start and need to do a bunch to unlock e tiers

what do you think is the hardest

[grizzled patrol]

E for Epilogue. Just a cutscene of Warden telling us we did a good Job

[livid stone]

E stands for epic

[thick echo]

Hello I’m new to this game

Do I have to play through all the rundowns in order?

From rundown 1 to 8?

[raw depot]

Hey

I'm new here

[thick echo]

Hello

[thick stump]

you don't have to but R6, R7 and R8 are heavy story based missions, so I would recommend you doing them in order

R1 to R5 have some logs in the terminal with stories

[burnt inlet]

additionally save R8 for last :3

[gilded hollow]

Anyone have an R2D2 guide? I'm trying to do it solo but I have no clue what are good setups for the bots and they tend to be kinda useless

[safe cradle]

Personally I did it with SawnOff/HEL Rifle on myself while bots all had HEL Rev/BC. Resist on the bridge until you open Z196 for the terminal, then resist in 196A keeping the door on the Western side closed while the two downstairs are open. Resist in that spot so they only come from either the Reactor side or the staircase.

Only annoyance with bots is that you kinda have to loot everything yourself and make sure they've ammo etc etc

Remember to query the key for the last alarm door beforehand

IMHO you can just shoot the donut-shaped room and give zero shits but maybe you get lucky and sleepers position isn't fucked up

[gilded hollow]

Okay so I'm on the right track then. I've settled on Sawn/HEL R on myself, but haven't figured out a good bot loadout. I'll try HEL revolver next.

I have been holding on bridge, but clearing through 194 to get the key has been taking me too long to do stealthily since I want to reserve bot ammo, and my ammo too. But I'm getting the hang of it, I've gotten the alarm door for 196 open twice, but then we get overrun because we're out of time.

[safe cradle]

Not going to lie while I didnt have issue doing it with 3 bots I also had like 10 clears with actual players before attempting that

[safe cradle]

You dont stealth anything aside from the zone with 5 scouts or whatever

[gilded hollow]

Yeah well, my friends who I was grinding GTFO with are overseas and shit for the holidays

so I'm on my own

[safe cradle]

You've all the ammo in the world during R2D2

[gilded hollow]

Idk, I've just been conserving because the bots ammo efficiency has been pretty shit

[safe cradle]

Just shoot everything, remember that ammo is king so always make a mental note to grab ammo from zones

[gilded hollow]

I'm not familiar yet with the lockers in the side room, so I haven't really been finding that much ammo

A little yeah but not as much as I'd like

[safe cradle]

Also take 3 sentries 1 bio, put a bio on the bot because the bot cheats with bio by ignoring CD and can 360 no-scope instatag

[gilded hollow]

Nonetheless I think I have a good stealth route for zone 194

[safe cradle]

I'd really take sniper sentries to maximize the bonus of bio even more

[gilded hollow]

Yeah I put the bio on a bot, it's insane. I've been taking auto sentry on myself and shotguns on the other bots for waveclear/control, but I've heard just taking 3 sniper sentrys can just be strong

[digital mural]

Oh god

[gilded hollow]

Which would check out - 1 shot 1 kill I guess lol

[safe cradle]

I'd rather, if I were you, remember terminals, at least one per zone, so you can beeline to a terminal and ping ammo (or the correct code terminal in case)

[digital mural]

Do NOT use shotgun sentry

[gilded hollow]

Yeah I'm remembering where the terminals are. Tbh I have been panicking so much I forgot you can ping ammo with terminals lmao

[safe cradle]

Shotgun sentry is beyond bad. It wastes ammo and with bio it's even worse

[gilded hollow]

Good to know. I've always though the shotgun sentries felt kind of mid, but they provide stopping power and zone control so I've been taking them

[tardy ingot]

dont go for a stealth approach in the code zones (exception being the 6th code one with multiple scouts)

the time you spent sneaking is wasted not looting. Especially since you are alone you have less time to open boxes and distribute the necessary resources

[safe cradle]

Really for R2D2 just take 3 sniper sentries and you're gonna be fine

[digital mural]

Burst sentry and sniper sentry do the same and better

[tardy ingot]

5th code (donut room) if possible melee 1 scout and shoot the other. worst case shoot 1, then fight the room and the wave

every other zone is basically go aggro melee until shooting is necessary

[gilded hollow]

Yeah I've been taking knife because fast clears make rooms easier

[safe cradle]

I'd also just pull the rooms in the last code zone tbh

[gilded hollow]

but I'm not sure if it's really worth

[safe cradle]

the fog makes it too shit

[tardy ingot]

always

[safe cradle]

You're gonna use hammer eventually so just start now

[gilded hollow]

Regardless, thanks for the advice. I'll try use this for tomorrow

[tardy ingot]

the resources in there are also PLENTY

[gilded hollow]

Oh I'm already familiar with the Hammer, I just wasn't sure if it was best for this mission

[tardy ingot]

knife is 2nd best choice so it isnt bad

[safe cradle]

Hammer is NEVER bad

[digital mural]

As long as it isn't spear

[tardy ingot]

it just limits your scout killing a bit for the 6th code zone

[safe cradle]

Hammer will ALWAYS work in any map

[tardy ingot]

hammer will limit your fast clearing a bit unless you are very proficient

[fathom ice]

for ref https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aWZggEaQqY&t=4s

[burnt inlet]

knife isnt that bad for R2D2 solo considering you pull every giant room

[ripe hamlet]

you just solo melee them ezclap

[tiny wyvern]

@clever sigil Do you need help with bindings?

Most of it is through the Steam Input these days, go there to unbind gyro controls

[clever sigil]

oh? i didnt know steam had controller settings im relativley new to pc lol

[tiny wyvern]

There should be a button next to the settings on your steam game page shaped like a controller

[clever sigil]

i dont see where i turn it off tho

[tiny wyvern]

You will have to make an entirely new control scheme

And manually remove it

[clever sigil]

....

[tiny wyvern]

This game really isn't a controller game
to the point that when the controller scheme got migrated into the steam input method I don't think the devs noticed it

Join the general VC if you need more pointers, I'm there with someone doing the tutorial

[clever sigil]

oooh ok

ty for your help i greatly appreciate it

[tiny wyvern]

Yep
Keep in mind that you will need to rebind a lot of keys and will still need to use keyboard for terminal stuff

Good luck

[normal granite]

Yeah, i too have been slowly switching over to hammer from knife

Still use knife a lot tho

[prime ore]

how much special damage is needed to 1 burst giants or hybrids with burst cannon

[uneven kiln]

none if you shoot them in the back

[fathom ice]

you can't get enough

with boosters

it's near 100~

[prime ore]

sad

asking cuz R5B1 has the very funny reactor part with gorillion giants so I thought if I can just 1 burst them all

[fathom ice]

hel rifle

[prime ore]

actually I forgot sniper is a thing

I could use sniper for this

[fathom ice]

no

it's 2 clip and awful reload

and there's bbcs as well

[prime ore]

you cannot 1 shot giant chargers with sniper?

uff

[fathom ice]

they don't have a weakpoint?

wait that's a ragebait

my bad

[prime ore]

I thought I might have a chance to use sniper for a single mission but I guess not

maybe KDS deep

[prime ore]

I lit never played sniper idk how much damage it does lol

[ocean spindle]

r2d2 was ur chance

missed

[tardy ingot]

...

stev man

what a start to 2026

[ocean spindle]

but snipers 40 dmg with big prec multi

maybs on r6d1 u can take it

[tardy ingot]

yea R6D1 is perfectly fine as a good pick

[ocean spindle]

:]

[prime ore]

wow okay sniper is

[ocean spindle]

wove r6d1

[prime ore]

way worse than I thought

I thought like maybe 75 dmg

[tardy ingot]

considering sniper is still the highest realistic damage you can get on ||kraken||

[ocean spindle]

with 3 mag is ok

with 2 iss bad

[fathom ice]

w 75 damage

[ocean spindle]

w 75 would be funny

[tardy ingot]

2 mag
slower reload
worse recoil (and hipfire lol)

[prime ore]

why would you ever in hell hipfire with sniper lmao

[ocean spindle]

panic button when charger

cant even do that anymore

[tardy ingot]

the funny thing is that 75 dmg sniper only changes its matchups (well if you ignore the stuff it 1 shots easily anyway like hybrids, giant strikers, chickens) for a few things that barely matter

biggest thing for casual stuff would be the 2 shot on bbcs

[glossy crypt]

ngl, considering it got nerfed to 2 rounds, HEL rifle's prolly better

[ocean spindle]

"prolly"

mhhh

[prime ore]

I always used

hel rifle before

its like 30 damage ,big mag and easier to aim

its just too good

[tardy ingot]

wdym "prolly"

[ocean spindle]

idk guys would the 5 round penetrating flexible always-pick gun better?

ksksks

[glossy crypt]

correction iz op af

[ocean spindle]

there u go

:3

[prime ore]

whats more op scatter or hel rifle

[glossy crypt]

HEL rifle iz GOAT

[ocean spindle]

scatter

[tardy ingot]

scatter is more game warping

[prime ore]

1 shotting giants or basically farming chargers

[tardy ingot]

hel rifle is more generally busted

[ocean spindle]

hel rifles more flexible, scatter is more powerful

[glossy crypt]

im kinda considering using it on harder rundowns (as weird as it sounds) specifically for larger sleepers

[prime ore]

scatter is so weird when I shoot anything with they just kinda like die of cringe just flop around on the floor

[tardy ingot]

but scatter is genuinely super efficient if used correctly into smalls

which should be one of its 2 weaknesses, the other being range

[ocean spindle]

how much time u got on te game?

i see ur new

but like where are u

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-24107071

[glossy crypt]

honestly, relatively new, but ive binged a lot of gameplay and read the wiki

[ocean spindle]

ok ur like me when i entered the server ksks

[glossy crypt]

like 12 hours as far as my steam account says (so ye im pretty new)

[ocean spindle]

das fair

[tardy ingot]

wiki is soso at times (tho ghostly and some others are working their best to fix any mistakes on it) but def better than nothing

[ocean spindle]

:[

[tardy ingot]

oh yea 12 hours is new new new

consider we often see people in the 100 hour range as beginners

[prime ore]

is 200 hours new

[glossy crypt]

i js barely have any time to invest plus im stuck playing with duos every time or w/ bots

[ocean spindle]

ur now new based on hours, just on ur progress

[glossy crypt]

also, i did try attempting R1A1 completely solo (saw Markiplier do it once), only went halfway tho

[prime ore]

I mean im tryna finish R5 rn

[mystic rock]

markiplier solo'd og r1a1

[ocean spindle]

200 hours but r1 uncompleted, ur new to me

[prime ore]

just B tiers left and the hell mission

[glossy crypt]

he did

[ocean spindle]

ur not new ur just bad /j

[prime ore]

ive beaten R4E1 sec btw

[ocean spindle]

the j means joking

[prime ore]

o

[ocean spindle]

anyways ii forget mark played gtfo

[prime ore]

what are the chances for mark to come back to gtfo

[fathom ice]

0

[glossy crypt]

oh ya D4RK, bit of a fan of ya and Scaler

[ocean spindle]

hehe

d4rk

[glossy crypt]

honestly idk (literally binging his GTFO vids rn)

[tardy ingot]

can just call me eva btw (mostly everyone does)

[ocean spindle]

yeah never happenin

[glossy crypt]

alr cool cool

[tardy ingot]

as close to 0 as youll get without being 0

[ocean spindle]

0.2 x 10^-13 or something idk maths

[prime ore]

lower chances then me beating R8E2 at this stage

so in practice never got it

[glossy crypt]

random Q, Veruta or Arbelast?

[tardy ingot]

preferably, neither

between the two. veruta

[ocean spindle]

veruta is pogchampier

[glossy crypt]

tried using Veruta js awhile ago, i prolly js suck atm (and i couldn't find that many ammo packs)

[prime ore]

veruta is like

a weapon you use just to make funny clips

[ocean spindle]

its hard to get used to the recoil but ull do so
plus hipfirings not bad

[prime ore]

thats pretty much it

[glossy crypt]

kinda agree

[ocean spindle]

i like veruta sometimes

[prime ore]

but not gonna lie its not as bad as arbalist so

[tardy ingot]

veruta is ok. Theres far better alternatives for wave clear and even for its niche (close range spam)

arbalist is sadly quite weak. Its outclassed by everything in its niche outside of maybe short rifle if you value stagger and the 5 dmg breakpoint. Only sniper rly is "worse"

[ocean spindle]

whats a lvl i take veruta on...
r3d1 sometimes

[glossy crypt]

so far i only played R1A1 completely a few times, and partially did R6B1 recently, but my teammate lagged out

[glossy crypt]

hb heavy AR?

HXC?

[ocean spindle]

right its malatack hxc wtf

[ocean spindle]

a
as long as u keep r8 for last das ok

[normal granite]

Heavy AR (and most full auto rapid fire weapons) tend to be a much worse pick than the single fire options

[glossy crypt]

currently want to binge thru the whole campaign from R1-R8, i js don't have the time

[tardy ingot]

similarly very meh

it has a bit less ammo econ than those two but is the most playable due to not needing a charge up (and having the 5 dmg breakpoint). The recoil doesnt rly help the weapon though

[normal granite]

Yeah this game can be a time sink

Average completion time is around 350-400 hours

[ocean spindle]

only lvl i took har was r7c2 but that was before altr3

[tardy ingot]

you know its bad when the any% glitchless world record times one after another add up to 16 1/2 hours

[ocean spindle]

lotssa content

[glossy crypt]

curious, u guys ever tried this full team loadout? (planned it out for my campaign so might as well get ur guys' opinions:)

MW: carbine/bullpup rifle
SW: HEL gun/scattergun
TL: burst/sniper sentry
ML: bat

MW: HEL revolver
SW: combat shotgun
TL: biotracker
ML: knife

MW: PDW
SW: HEL rifle/precision rifle
TL: C-foam launcher
ML: spear

MW: HEL shotgun
SW: Veruta/heavy AR
TL: HEL auto/shotgun sentry/mine
ML: sledgehammer

[ocean spindle]

wa

[ocean spindle]

hard to say any loadout as many lvls ask for diff things

[glossy crypt]

tried to make it as versatile as possible

[ocean spindle]

that looks about ok, just the shottgun sentry sucks

always

i woudl replace with mines

[mystic rock]

so like

we're taking foam

but no mention of mines

[ocean spindle]

... wait

are u reading the fandom wiki??

[glossy crypt]

oh, 4got abt that, was gonna add it

[glossy crypt]

not atm, but they're based on the wiki

[tardy ingot]

dont overthink this too much

[ocean spindle]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg

bad bad

we dont use fandom

anymore

is outdated

[glossy crypt]

alr

[ocean spindle]

suspected u didnt kno cuz foam and mine pages suggest te combo

[glossy crypt]

tbf the loadout can change so

[glossy crypt]

foam and mine combo is dope ngl

[ocean spindle]

iit be

pretty pog

[tardy ingot]

basically

For tools:
always have a bio tracker
Dont pick foam without havng mines aswell. But mines without foam can do well
for sentries. Burst is the common pick and works vs most normal enemies. Sniper for big enemies (specifically with bio pings) and on long sight lines
Shotgun sentry never
hel auto sentry is.. niche. Its rly strong for killing if abusing that it gets back dmg due to a bug (coupled with its pierce). But it runs out of shots quickly and needs players to know when, how and why to use it

for melee:
Hammer is basically top dog. Deals with everything well
knife is if you wanna focus on smalls specifically
bat is stagger focused (soft stagger) but its not a great niche. Main reason it gets picked for say speeds is the insta break on locks
spear... eh

[glossy crypt]

might swap spear then, knife and sledge r pretty good after using them

[ocean spindle]

bat gaming

[tardy ingot]

main:
avoid full auto weapons if you can (hel auto pistol is the only genuine full auto thats good)
PDW with its thermal might seem charming. But dont over-rely on it

special:
also avoid full auto here tbh
hel (aka penetration) = broken
scattergun = nuke (for everything, group of smalls or a big)

[glossy crypt]

alr, thx 4 the info

[glossy crypt]

could prolly go w/ precision rifle if thermal is needed

[ocean spindle]

also i guess dont sweat it too much, u dont need top picks whhen going through A tiers
take the meta sstuff when u feel u need it and stuff, but at the end game requires good aim despite the gun and good knowledge and strat

so theres that

[tardy ingot]

its never needed, thats the good part

but yea as slendi said

try every gun. See what you like

[glossy crypt]

sometimes id include AR and shotgun if i don't need that much firepower

[tardy ingot]

then if you care you can check the generally agreed upon community tierlists

[ocean spindle]

i like ar i just i am bad with it

shotgun is my general "i wanna win" pick

[glossy crypt]

hb burst rifle, DTR, and DMR? (for non-full auto mains)

[ocean spindle]

p cool

those all work well with maybs caviats

like dtr being hard to use but rewarding

and burst rifle being slower than carbine but more long-rangey

[glossy crypt]

ngl its kind of an obscure one

[ocean spindle]

is niche but its awesome - i like it a lot

[glossy crypt]

tried carbine, was likely js bad at playing, on paper it looks rly good tho

and ive seen alot of ppl use it asw

[ocean spindle]

it feels bad - i dont like it but it really is top tier

i just hate it cuz im biassed

✨

[glossy crypt]

had a similar experience

[glossy crypt]

i think i tried using it when i fully went solo for R1A1

[ocean spindle]

i try to use it sometimes but i prefer other guns

for a solo of a1 idek what i would use kmsdkm

sawed off i guess

[glossy crypt]

iirc, my loadout was carbine, combat shotgun, mines, and knife or bat

[ocean spindle]

bat my beloved

im just an edgy shit i like to pick bad things kmsdkm

[glossy crypt]

tbh, kinfe and sledge r best imo (haven't used spear but it seems frowned upon), i like being fast (its my playstyle, but i do try to be careful)

[normal granite]

Spear makes it so you cant sprint while charging

Hammer is overall best

Knife is good for crowd clear of small enemies

[glossy crypt]

i mainly like the knife for its speed, plus u can hold the charge infinitely

[glossy crypt]

agreed hammer is good (only tried it awhile ago and its solid 2 use)

[glossy crypt]

although admittingly i did js die right as i was abt to extract lol (ran the wrong way)

[tardy ingot]

there is actually a limit

its about 13-14 ish seconds

[glossy crypt]

ah, might have js never held it for that long

[normal granite]

Huh, i thought it was 9 seconds

[glossy crypt]

ight, im out 4 the day, thx 4 the advice eva

[grave orchid]

gonna work on turning this game into assassins creed

[digital mural]

[winter breach]

You dont need to

There is already r5d1

[grave orchid]

rats

[runic roost]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-bro-how-bro-felt-gif-8015564281503585223

[winter breach]

Exactly

[digital mural]

Why is the paper burning

That's dangerous

[final terrace]

because he's writing fire

[digital mural]

How

[livid stone]

fire

[ocean spindle]

the graphite in the pencils tip is provoking a chemical reactiion with the materials used to make the paper which provoke sparks that create a flame that is supported by oxygen

[final terrace]

that looks like a ballpoint pen

there is metal around the tip and end

[burnt inlet]

Is this how I should write my maths test?

[ocean spindle]

FUCK

[burnt inlet]

It’s magnesium with gasoline

[digital mural]

🫃?

[winter breach]

Cuz im that good

I dont have skill issue

[civic wave]

i thought it looked like a fountain pen

[slow lantern]

if you don't clear all the rooms with sleeps in them. will the sleeps inside the rooms you didn't clear before doing a class alarms wake up?

[frail heart]

Only if they are in your room or the room next to you

Basically enemies can only scream if they are in your room or an adjacent room

[livid spear]

Hello

[ocean spindle]

hiiii

[grave orchid]

if theres two clickers right next to each other, can you kill one without waking the other, as long as the other isnt glowing? this is important info for running solo matches

[timber shoal]

if they're within 3 meters of each other, killing one will immediately wake the other

outside of that range, if they're not glowing, there's no chance they'll wake up

[grave orchid]

okay

just watching mark’s first solo run of before the game full-released

[tardy ingot]

For more indepth info id recommend browsing this channel #guides-and-reviews message

[grave orchid]

i gotchu

[long atlas]

When a level generates, is there ever a possibility that a specific room generates with a different tile that still fits the placement?
Like, if the first room of R2E1 had more than one variation, could it randomly choose between those variations every time you load the level? (I'm not talking about locker placements fwiw)

[normal granite]

No

Levels are manually created by the developers

The tiles will always be the same

[sturdy glen]

there are a few levels that have marker rerolls that can significantly change what a tile looks like

but itll still be the same base tile

[normal granite]

Really? I dont remember any levels that are different on re runs

Oh marker you said

Nvm

[long atlas]

This is what I spotted in R7D1 then, I just literally haven't rolled it again since trying to find it with freecam. good to know

[upbeat flame]

anyone know if you have to enter all zones in r4c2 for main? I assume not since most missions like that don't require you to

[ocean spindle]

some that do are also r1d1, some r8 lvls :D

[ocean spindle]

no

list the osips per zone to see

as theres variation

[upbeat flame]

yeah figured as much

[ocean spindle]

or at least i think theres some

[queen leaf]

Okay can someone please answer this:
I've been learning the game with 2 of my friends and have relied on Bishop as a BOT with the Bio Tracker to mark enemies. While 4 players would be desirable, we have still enjoyed learning with a bot as our 4th. The issue is, he throws our runs so often. Prioritizing healing or reviving downed players while he's getting shot, picking up packs and not using them, standing in the way or blatantly shooting us by trying to shoot through us. He's a menace. My question being, is there a way make him switch packs or have him pickup/switch for other packs? We are currently running R1C1 running full sniper sentries, and heavily depending on Tool Packs. Long story short Bishop took a Tool Pack 5 then didn't use it for himself or us then died and it ultimately would've refilled our turrets enough to finish. We were on Round 7/8.

[ocean spindle]

bots dont refill sentries on the ground

[upbeat flame]

uh sometimes I place a pack down I want him to take and ping it, then he takes the pack and switches out the important thing

[ocean spindle]

gotta pick it up to refill

bots just tend to priotitize medi

so no no way to exchange unless chance rlly

also do 2 bursts - 3 snipers is way more dmg than u need

they are slow and hard-hitting

bit of an overkill

[queen leaf]

I think we had 2 sniper 1 burst and it was fine, biggest issue really was just bishop stealing our ammo

[ocean spindle]

also i guess guns alsso affect friendly fire - usually machinegun / burst rifle is the all rounder for it to not do much ff, save quite a lot of ammo when shooting and deal with smalls nicer

[ocean spindle]

bots refill u as long ass ur undr 80 on both guns so not much there, plus u can justt one person to make the bot follow em and stay behind

like the person doing the codes

and if he steals a tool, pick up sentry

he'll rush to fill u as long as ur under 80

[queen leaf]

tl;dr don't play with bots find a 4th player

[ocean spindle]

as a 3 bot player

nah

[long atlas]

Something you can do if you want them to hold an early ammo pack in R1C1 is just disconnect the bot and reconnect them, this completely removes whatever they were holding so use that as you will, but otherwise, just hold onto ammo packs yourself if you need them

[ocean spindle]

bishop my beloved

[ocean spindle]

nah - it removes it, so it vanishes it

its not much worth to just lose resource to move resource

[long atlas]

In a 3 bot situation that can be helpful when all 3 have healthpacks

[ocean spindle]

either way u like - dont leave early resources

u use everything in the first zone if possible

then by the second zone u come back to it later

[long atlas]

R1C1 specifically is somewhere that is applicable since you can't get the early resources without pushing super far, but if you have 3 players and a bot, it's not as usable

[ocean spindle]

it is not that hard to push as long as ur coder-person doesnt input immediately

it gives u upwards of 2 minutes

[queen leaf]

so answer to my question, no there is no way to simply swap out packs that a bot is holding

got it

thanks

[ocean spindle]

in 3 bot runs u HAVE to go from reactorr to early zone - and gives u time

[ocean spindle]

no not rlly

good luck

if u need a fourth player u can LFG

[digital mural]

I smell r1c1

[ocean spindle]

and we can say more adviice if need be

[queen leaf]

no no don't need advice, just wanted to know more about bots

thanks

[ocean spindle]

gaming

[queen leaf]

Gaming.

[ocean spindle]

now i wanna play c1 goddammit it

[digital mural]

Play it

[ocean spindle]

gtfo runs like shhit

[gilded hollow]

I'm making my way through R2D2 solo, and I finally made it to the room with 5 scouts but accidentally procced one while trying to kill it and got overwhelmed. Should I just stealth this zone?

[queen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/r2d2-same-tired-star-wars-gif-13888503

[ocean spindle]

uh no, its a little too slow, u should get practice in meleeing

[ocean spindle]

:]

u'll worry when u get there

[gilded hollow]

Good to know. I just took a bad angle - I was on the bottom o the stairs trying to kill a scout with elevation

I think I just didn't have enough reach to get head from where I was and clipped the body

[ocean spindle]

oh killing from below sucks ass

[dreamy socket]

Never the stairs scout -_-

[gilded hollow]

Yeah I was getting antsy because there was 5 minutes left and I just got to the room, and I haven't been there yet so I don't know where the terminals are

[ocean spindle]

unless ur above it

yeah - gotta like, go around and and basically pray and jump

[dreamy socket]

Even then, kinda iffy unless spear

[gilded hollow]

This mission is insanely fun. Incredibly fucking hard and exhausting but so much fun to try and run

I'm gonna carry my friends so fucking hard when they jump back on lol

[dreamy socket]

TRUE!

[ocean spindle]

soloing d2 pain pain

i imagine ur botting

bot gaming

[fathom ice]

hes tas

[ocean spindle]

botgaming ing if u will

[prime musk]

1. you can always shoot the last scout in a room at no risk
2. for B. you can doorshoot as many enemies (including scouts) as you get access for. this is referring to the fact that shooting through a door as it is closing makes NO sound and will not wake up anything in the room you shot into.

[gilded hollow]

Yeah I know, but my friends that I GTFO with are overseas and shit so I'm here solo with 3 bots lol

[ocean spindle]

speedrun

[fathom ice]

yessss

[digital mural]

Erm 3 bots isn't solo

[gilded hollow]

Whoa that's an insane tech I didn't know about

Does going true solo with no bots reduce spawn? I've seen a tonne of people "soloing" but it looks like they have a mod or something for reduced spawns, because it looks like the total enemies they get in every sequence is the number of enemies I get in a single wave on 4 man

[digital mural]

No

Game doesn't scale

[fathom ice]

nah

[gilded hollow]

Figured, thought they might've been modding

[fathom ice]

listen

most of people are respectfully just playing solo vanilla

there are some individuals that do modded but we don't really count it

[prime musk]

it is also the case that as you get better the amount of enemies it feels like there are, will decrease

[digital mural]

Wdym my runs with arsenality and custom boosters doesn't count

:(

[fathom ice]

mb

[gilded hollow]

Yeah I was looking up some solo players for guidance/inspiration, but then I see them start up the reactor and they get like... 4 mobs spawning per wave, total of like 20 per reactor sequence

vs vanilla where I'm easily seeing like 60+ in a 1.5 minute sequence

[fathom ice]

ye idk

it is what it is

[prime musk]

tnenpi, hinoki, and blablablaftw2 are the solo players you should refer to

that are public on yt at least

[fathom ice]

ye those guys are good

[prime musk]

jadiepop as well

[long atlas]

Technically me with 3 bot runs but it's not full runs that I show, just sorta highlights that I explain in great detail. This is absolutely a self plug and I feel full shame for it

[dreamy socket]

As you should lol

[gilded hollow]

OH I've seen your vids pop up lmfao

[long atlas]

lmao, I tried to be as informational as possible while being entertaining, that first video came out pretty rough but I just wanted to document how many levels are "casually" possible with bots only so that's why I made them

[gilded hollow]

I haven't looked at yours yet. I might now that I know you're a vanilla player

[long atlas]

Don't let it spoil you on levels you haven't played though, I think there's still a lot of fun to be had exploring a level for the first time. But yeah, hopefully you can extract some useful information out of it. (Weapons wise, you should probably use something different from me admittedly lmao)

[ripe hamlet]

i watch robs vid for a bit but he used checkpoint mod and also betterbots so i wouldnt say hes a vanilla

[dreamy socket]

Better bots makes me sad for some reason

[sturdy glen]

reasonable

[ripe hamlet]

if i ever try to do solo with bots id probably use zombified initiative ngl

dealing with bots res management sounds painful

[prime musk]

solo with bots is just solo but you despawn the bots for anything you don't require them for

[long atlas]

I used the mods only when I couldn't beat the level and made it very clear when I was using said mods for demonstration purposes. I simply plan on coming back at a later date to grind vanilla.
Valid critique regardless

[prime musk]

like for e2 bot solo i didn't spawn them in until i was pulling nm6 and despawned them after wave 2. and put them back in for pmom

[ripe hamlet]

real

but there are like very few sections where youd want to kick out the bots

[hard nexus]

can u bind add/remove bot to a hotkey with a mod or something

[fathom ice]

you should push 2e1 with better bots more

that was a banger

[ripe hamlet]

didnt chill did one where he literally did nothing

[prime musk]

i mean
every section that isn't a strict loud section is just better true solo than with bots in my experience

[ripe hamlet]

it was funny asf

[prime musk]

just because you get to control resource expenditure

[ripe hamlet]

true

[prime musk]

yeah chill did r2e1 solo dealing 0 damage himself

[fathom ice]

correct

[prime musk]

with better bots

[sturdy glen]

speedrun was way better

[ripe hamlet]

bots dont really negatively impact stealth but they do be a pain in the ass for res management

[sturdy glen]

if I superlogged the time could actually be crazy

but im not gonna do that obv

[fathom ice]

what was the pb again

like 22?

[sturdy glen]

22 minute

[fathom ice]

yeah xd

[sturdy glen]

like second try

[prime musk]

chill do you think i could beat r2e1 wr with betterbots if i superlogged

[upbeat flame]

fellas 2 questions, how does elevation and stealth work, I'm mostly talking about those tilesets with the rafters and grated floors, it feels like you can just walk on the rafters without the sleepers below aggroing. 2nd questions is for r4c1 and extractions where you got an item or sumn does it matter how many people are in the circle?

[sturdy glen]

no idea, probably not tho

[ripe hamlet]

walking on grating will not wake up enemies

but long ranged aggro will sometimes proc for them

[prime musk]

it can

it's just uncommon because you break los a lot so it doesn't wind up their aggro much

[ripe hamlet]

ic

either eva or frosty told me otherwise

[prime musk]

it's weird and inconsistent

but if you start walking back and forth right above a sleeper it'll wake

[hard nexus]

most of the time its fine but it triggers them for sure

[ripe hamlet]

feature not a bug fr

[sturdy glen]

I forget if the middle part of the grating thats just a hole can aggro still was misinfo or not

that was the conclusion we came to a long time ago and I havent really thought about it since

[ripe hamlet]

all item required extract scan doesnt scale with people

[prime ore]

How good are betterbots

[upbeat flame]

cool, thanks for the info

[sturdy glen]

hilariously good

like saying its aimbot is like

not enough

[prime ore]

Insane

[fathom ice]

it can

[prime ore]

I wanted to pick up the game again after a week but I didn't get a single person for R5B1 and my friends are busy so

[sturdy glen]

no one wanted to play r5b1, curious

[prime ore]

I wonder why

[ripe hamlet]

just make it r5b1 ovl

[prime ore]

Yeah cuz at this point I'm not getting all missions PE

[ripe hamlet]

you can just do sec with bots

[prime musk]

listen you should ask jade for the r5b1 duo

[fathom ice]

yesssss

[ripe hamlet]

real and true

[prime musk]

or just do pe with bots

[fathom ice]

I asked jade to hop in while we were in call

but she had to go 😔

[ripe hamlet]

😔

[prime musk]

like the overload is free with bots, you just have 3 sniper sentries ticking and win

[prime ore]

R5B1 loadout is just 3 snipers 1 bio?

[prime musk]

in quad it's probably bio double sniper sentry mines

[ripe hamlet]

if you do sec you get one mine

[long atlas]

This maybe the one time I've used shotgun turrets unironically during R5B1 ovl

[prime musk]

erm

[ripe hamlet]

but why

sniper sentry is just the play

[hard nexus]

perma foam door on reactor obviously

[ripe hamlet]

real and true

[prime musk]

if not sniper sentry it's hel auto sentry
like you get enough tool to just fill it for every wave and you place it backwards facing in choke before sec door to bridge

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[long atlas]

I was running a bad loadout to deal with the chargers, autopistol scatter

[ripe hamlet]

what happen to hel rifle

[long atlas]

I literally never used it until R7, which explains why earlier levels were very difficult lmao

[prime ore]

Hel auto is like insane for some missions

[long atlas]

But it makes it more impressive imo that I managed like 58 (PE if applicable) levels with that loadout

[prime ore]

Would you take a single betterbot or have 3 normal bots

Like how overpowered are betterbots

[prime musk]

single betterbot

[sturdy glen]

I was gonna try duo with a better bot

[hard nexus]

yes

[sturdy glen]

at one point

[prime musk]

is probably enough to be able to not shoot in like all the levels

[sturdy glen]

but i stopped carying

but yeah what zed said

at least for striker levels which is most of them 1 would be plenty

charger/nightmare levels 1 probably falls off a bit?

[prime musk]

with hel rifle it's probably fine?

but im not sure i haven't tried

[ripe hamlet]

is this with aim bot or not

[sturdy glen]

aim bot yea

[ripe hamlet]

i tried betterbots once but quitted half way through a lvl cause the game became way too boring lmao

[sturdy glen]

agreed

[hard nexus]

which lvl

[sturdy glen]

ive never used it outside those vids I made

[ripe hamlet]

i think it was r7c1

[prime ore]

So betterbots is just a free win

[hard nexus]

i mostly moved on to modded

so if we have vanilla barely alive if i dont have mates on i dont have a choice but to use betterbots

[ripe hamlet]

you can just play with normal bots

they do plenty fine themselves

[hard nexus]

i did that at first

then i reached deeper levels

[burnt inlet]

Depends on config but yes

[ripe hamlet]

e2 can be beaten with vanilla bots

you just need to skill prog

[sturdy glen]

I think the barrier for better bots levels is pretty much identical to the one where you would want to swap from true soloing to duoing

so very few levels arent just free

[ripe hamlet]

better bots really just remove the shooting part of the game

[sturdy glen]

I forget what my damage indicator looked like when I Did the speedrun lemme check the distribution

[hard nexus]

cant talk for vanilla but in modded with aimbot bots i still have to shoot sometimes

[sturdy glen]

I matched the bio bot while running sawed off scatter on r2e1 WITH sentry damage

ig its still not super accurate since I had to carry items during

idk, would need to test a little more to see how hard it would be to compete for damage with them

[prime musk]

e2 duo with vanilla bot is doable

and is like

fine

but i didn't bother

[native gust]

whats a good rundown for me to try for controlled response achievement?

or at least attempt it

[tiny wyvern]

What is the achevement again
The pistols only one

[native gust]

yea

pistol and revolver solo

b tier

[burnt inlet]

R1B1

prolly easiest B tier out there

[native gust]

ah oki

[tiny wyvern]

R1B1 is the best pick, though you can always R1B2 is you're good

Remember you need to be solo no bots

[native gust]

ah oki

[timber shoal]

r6b1 is also fun though its gonna b harder than r1b1

[native gust]

ah

dont have r6b1 unlocked i think xd

[runic roost]

R1B2 solo lowkey pre rough with the extract scan

[tiny wyvern]

Oh yea the extract I forgor it's long

[native gust]

yeah i was gonna do B1 but like lot of big guys so idk

and idk how to kill solo xd

and no bio

[timber shoal]

if you go through all three alarms you only have to deal with the north small dark zone with giants rather than all the giants in the west side

[native gust]

ah okie

wait wdym

[native gust]

what if shit rng and there in the west xd

[timber shoal]

there are PIDs in all 6(?) of the zones that you can enter in the level

[native gust]

ah

[runic roost]

I normally do the one alarm

and the rest is funny zone

[native gust]

xd

[timber shoal]

if you fully clear both east and north you dont have to deal with many giants

[native gust]

ah

[timber shoal]

and you get all your PIDs

[native gust]

o

[native gust]

wait can i dm?

[timber shoal]

sure

[sudden nexus]

you can avoid the giants for the most part

plus you can bring hical

[burnt inlet]

you only need to go one west, two north and one east

[sudden nexus]

which is really good v giants

[native gust]

ah

[native gust]

can i dm?

[sudden nexus]

sure

[native gust]

oki

[tardy ingot]

Not necessarily

Theres 18 IDs that spawn
You need 12
Theres 7 zones with IDs (3 east, 2 north and west each)
Zones can thus have 0-3

You need to visit minimum 4. maximum 5

[ripe hamlet]

yeah i once got unlucky and get a no-ID zone

at most one zone can have no id

[winter breach]

But you can enter to maximumly 6-7 zones

[burnt inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[dreamy socket]

You would

[burnt inlet]

Yea i would

[dreamy socket]

-_-

[normal granite]

i am going to skin you alive and replace it with sandpaper

[dreamy socket]

Which side out

Bc I'll help

[burnt inlet]

🤫 would only make it bad for those i touch and i dont touch anyone 🔥

[dreamy socket]

Hence my question

[normal granite]

dual sided sandpaper

[dreamy socket]

Oh, nice. I'll help

[burnt inlet]

I don’t move either so it’s not gonna affect me

[civic quail]

Hello! im new here. How do i do the reactor verify thing on r1c1? it says incorrect security code everytime

is it REACTOR_VERIFY CODE?

[tiny wyvern]

Say the code is HUNT

REACTOR_VERIFY HUNT

Say it's LOVE

REACTOR_VERIFY LOVE

You can see what the code is on your HUD

[civic quail]

ohhhhhhh, Thank you so much!

we've been stuck there for 30 mins lol

[tiny wyvern]

No probs, that's what we're here for
Gl, though you're probably not clearing this run if you've been struggling with term stuff for 30 mins

[worn knot]

Does multuple scout in the same room summon multiple waves of 12 or just 1 wave ?

[prime musk]

as many waves as there are scouts

[worn knot]

For r2d2 in the five scout room , is it better to stealth the terminals or clear all scouts and loot ?

We can't get all the scouts so I dunno is it better to waste ammo and time fighting hordes or save time and loot other areas

[burnt inlet]

If you trigger them you can hold out north west in the room, funnels then from two areas that you will be able to see, one room enemies are clear two or three of you push back against wave whilst one of you finds the terminal

[prime musk]

#gtfo-related-questions message

[burnt inlet]

If you do trigger you need to loot room

[prime musk]

read this message i wrote like yesterday

you should be able to fully clear and fully loot every zone in time in r2d2

[burnt inlet]

Ye

[worn knot]

Thanks

[steep ivy]

Does sr sentry damage give a larger increase than regular damage? In terms of boosters

[steep ivy]

And if spawn cap is reached by other stuff I'm pretty sure it will delay the wave until it's free (I might be wrong though)

[lone elbow]

wtf is r2c2

error alarm bruh

i cant reach the first part for my life

[ocean spindle]

:D

[lone elbow]

i cant do the first fucking aarm

alarm

[ocean spindle]

gaming

[lone elbow]

I tried five times man

Only made it once

And it’s so frustrating

[ocean spindle]

are u runnn 3 bots or solo or

[dapper kestrel]

tbf I think that first alarm is probably the hardest part of that level

[steep ivy]

a trick that can save some time, if you are playing with others/bots you can use the voice line feature to figure out if the cell is in the same room you are in

using default keybind i believe it is Q than 3 and if it's in the same room it should give you an option to tell the bots to pick it up

[ocean spindle]

q 2

q 3 is for following? i think?

[steep ivy]

idk, all i know is that it's under "the objective"

[ocean spindle]

the objective

[timber shoal]

its q2 for objective items

[ocean spindle]

I KNEW IT

IM BASED

[steep ivy]

based? based off what

[ocean spindle]

on being cool

[lone elbow]

yeah but more often than not there is a fog turbine or two in the same room as the cell so it doesnt really matter i do have to ping to save time

[lone elbow]

the scans go literally EVERYWHERE the scattered ones

on the literal opposite ends of the room

and sometimes in the infection fog

[timber shoal]

that alarm is the worst part of the level

[lone elbow]

yeah i figured

i made it past once and it was so foggy i couldnt see shit

but i found the sec door to the disinfection zone but died there

[timber shoal]

everything besides the alarm is pretty straightforward but the scans on it can either be the worst thing youve ever seen or free as fuck

no in between

[lone elbow]

yeah

[burnt inlet]

You don’t have to grab fog turbine, waste of time since you get disinfection station just after fog zone

[fathom ice]

are you solo with bots

[ripe hamlet]

solo with bots mean free fog zone

[lone elbow]

yeah ik but he was saying that i can use the bot objective command thing to know if the cell is in the same room as im in

and i said that the fog turbine is there in the same zone so its not a guaranteed result

[burnt inlet]

ye

[lone elbow]

yeah its just me with bots

what melee should i go for?

[burnt inlet]

imo you shouldnt have to ping it, just a few spots where its good to always look

[burnt inlet]

knife and you can melee error wave

[lone elbow]

i tried the knife

[burnt inlet]

hammer if you wanna be consistent

[burnt inlet]

aim above their heads

[lone elbow]

yeah thats what my thought process was

[burnt inlet]

best way to get consistent one shots

[lone elbow]

oh

[fathom ice]

you prob just skip turbine and run to the door

and you should for sure do knife

[burnt inlet]

ye

and like try to dodge licks and stuff when holding cell

[prime musk]

you can pick up the turbine and q2 again to see if there is also a cell.

[burnt inlet]

Or another pick up item

[prime musk]

yes but in 2c2 it can only be cell

[ripe hamlet]

its okay

as long as you dont go into the big evil zone

[burnt inlet]

Cant there be two turbines?

Cuz I’m pretty sure I’ve seen two, been a while tho so I’m not certain

[prime musk]

you might be correct actually

[ripe hamlet]

no idea

[prime musk]

like i think you are correct that there are 2 turbines

[burnt inlet]

Rare moth true info moment

[prime musk]

but im not sure if they can spawn in same room

[ripe hamlet]

i actually cant remember a single thing about r2c2 pre first alarm

its all a blur

[burnt inlet]

Im like 70% certain I have seen them do that