gtfo-related-questions

[median glacier]

ohhh i didnt realize back multi extended down to legs as well

ayo fr

[ripe hamlet]

only rng if youre pub

if youre cracked you can always stagger

[safe cradle]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gtfo_gamepedia_en/images/a/aa/Back_multi.png/revision/latest?cb=20231031045350

[median glacier]

how so

oh that back angle is narrower than i thought

[safe cradle]

it's a spectrum

and it starts from the sides as you can see

the more "back" you are, the better

[ripe hamlet]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Back_Multiplier

[safe cradle]

AFAIK it uses your position and enemy orientation

[median glacier]

so you just have to ensure you're landing your knife hits as close to that angle on the limbs as possible even when he's spinning like a merry go round?

[safe cradle]

enemy animations do not reflect 100% their orientation but to honest that's out of the range of things I'm sure about

I know it doesn't for normal strikers and whatnot

it fully updates when it stops doing the wake-up animation

[median glacier]

so what reference point do i use as i guess you could say "true back" when intializing a giant take down, just the original orientation when i first hit it?

I also wonder if melee dmg boosters play a siginificant role for knife in terms of achieving breakpoints or if its useless unless you get a certain percentage booster

[tardy ingot]

we usually dont rly consider boosters

[median glacier]

yea thats fair since they're consumable and have so many ranges

[keen seal]

there's this

[median glacier]

holy schmoly

[ripe hamlet]

isnt that one outdated

[timber shoal]

feels accurate to use in game

could b wrong though

[median glacier]

the aesthetic of the chart feels like it'd be laminated and put next to the osha safety and guidelines in a breakroom

i bet if you did that no one would notice for like a week

[burnt inlet]

I think like 3 things was outdated

[wraith wedge]

Witch things

[burnt inlet]

Sorcerous things mostly

[wraith wedge]

[burnt inlet]

Nah but idk

But generally could assume it’s right

[strange kraken]

Guy's quick question, does C-Foam have a duration lifespan or they just stay until an enemy gets caught on them?

[safe cradle]

on doors is basically infinite, on ground it ain't

and dont foam terminals cause that doesn't go away either IIRC

[strange kraken]

I see, thank you for the info!

[tardy ingot]

theres 3 circumstances

On a normal door - indefinite
On any other surface - 4-5 min (it genuinely ranges)
On enemies - depending on the enemy iirc

[tardy ingot]

It goes away

[undone raven]

I'm not sure a light tap (0% charge) to the oci kills a shooter anymore

[prime musk]

it does.

3*10 = 30

[prime ore]

One tapping shooters with hammer?

I almost always do that when I run hammer just cuz it's funny

[ripe hamlet]

i think the thing that changes the most is knife

and some break point for hammer maybe

[prime musk]

hammer breakpoints haven't changed significantly since it was nerfed from 4 to 3 tap dmg

[civic wave]

🕯️ occi tapping strikers

[hazy lion]

do you have to complete a level after you obtain a log for it to count toward the achievement or can you just dc when you have it?

[ripe hamlet]

log is counted as gotten as long as you read it

no need to beat the lvl

[hazy lion]

awesome thx

[lone elbow]

yo what these called

[timber shoal]

spitters

[lone elbow]

can they spawn in the floor?

like on the floor

[timber shoal]

nope

[lone elbow]

i thought they spawned on walls only

[timber shoal]

ceiling and walls

[lone elbow]

this says otherwise or shows ig

[timber shoal]

underside of stairs

[lone elbow]

ah

gotcha

it still hit me when i was above stairs tho

[timber shoal]

actually stairs might just be a special case

ceilings, walls, stairs, and props are all valid spawns

[lone elbow]

ah ok

i saw a ytber call them swfs

screaming wall fucks

i agree tbh

[timber shoal]

spitters are probably my least favorite thing in this game tbh

[normal granite]

ahh a fellow spiffer

[lone elbow]

it was RobsDomain who i heard it from

[normal granite]

damn

not a spiffer

[lone elbow]

the guy trying to beat every level in gtfo with bots

[lone elbow]

nah ik about astral spiffer

i think the first gtfo video i saw was his lol

the one where he runs the last rundown

[ripe hamlet]

the humble infection fog

[timber shoal]

there are plenty of levels that i respect fog as a feature of

there is exactly one instance of spitters in a level that i find not incredibly annoying

[ripe hamlet]

max infect stealth zone with spitter 🔥

[timber shoal]

r5b2 🔥

[ripe hamlet]

spitter is annoying but nothing is worse than long infection fog stealth zone with only turbine

[timber shoal]

yeah i agree

r2's fog usage is quite annoying for that reason

controversial take: i like what r2d1 does with fog

[sudden nexus]

can i spit on you

[ripe hamlet]

discounting the extract run and blood door its good

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-cat-side-eye-cat-side-eye-orange-cat-staring-gif-4749659952322810298

[timber shoal]

extract is pretty straightforward imo

[timber shoal]

yes please

[sudden nexus]

perv

wish i could say slurs in this server

would be peak

[timber shoal]

so true queen

[ripe hamlet]

its just so long and so evil out of nowhere

[digital mural]

Just as a small tip
Don't listen too much to what spiff said in his videos

He said a bunch of misinfo

[normal granite]

Its not misinformation if it is what you belivleve to be true /s

[lone elbow]

oh i c

also my terminal for uplink is surrounded by infection fog bruh

[timber shoal]

i suppose so

[reef rock]

hiiii dodo

[timber shoal]

haiiiiii peng :33333

[reef rock]

[timber shoal]

how goes it :>

also do you still need hit level r4d1

[timber shoal]

ill be on for a lil while yet if you're so inclined to play

[reef rock]

oh shore

i can play

[timber shoal]

oki

idk if anyone else is on tbh 😭

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[reef rock]

[raven copper]

hiiiiii peng

[reef rock]

hiii snif

[raven copper]

[strange rover]

any tips on how to defend against wave 2 and 3 of the r8e2 reactor (loadout, location and dealing with tanks / flyers)?

and doing it with only 2 people and 2 bots 🫠

[frail heart]

The best place to hold is outside the bulkhead door in 495. Have one person stand in D to spawn block and have a door open from A to B. Also make sure that the doors from A to C and C to D are closed. This makes it so all enemies will always funnel down the long hallway which gives you great lines for hel rifle (which you should take). You then can have your scattergun player sitting on either side of the hallway, let the person in D pull the tanks towards them then you can get some pretty free shots in on the tank

If you know how to play this strat it’s the best way to play reactor IMO

[little pilot]

this is the position u want to be in:

[frail heart]

The one thing is enemies can sometimes get stuck a lot

So make sure you keep track of how many tanks you have killed so you know if any are stuck

Also flyers aren’t really an issue on wave 2 because they only start to actually come out when you are killing off the last enemies of wave 2

[strange rover]

hel rifel better than sniper in this case?

[frail heart]

Sniper isn’t a very good weapon

[strange rover]

oh, okay

[frail heart]

Hel rifle is extremely good on E2 because of nightmares and the amlount of giants

[strange rover]

okay, thanks ^^

[frail heart]

That hallway allows you to get a huge amount of pen shots

Np

[strange rover]

makes sense

any recommendations for tools when using 2 bots?

[frail heart]

Put bio and sentry on bot probably

And take cfoam and mines on yourselves

Make sure it’s a sniper sentry as well

[strange rover]

alright 👍

just curios but wouldn't 2 sentries make more sense for this mission, especially considering the kraken and reactor?

so 2 snipers and 1 foam for scouts?

[frail heart]

Mines are very good for the first sections and for the class 6 alarms

2 snipers can help more in reactor but the difference between 1 and 2 isn’t that massive as to where it warrants taking it over mines

Mines + cfoam is just better

[strange rover]

okay, makes sense

[frail heart]

👍

[prime musk]

i think frosty is correct for overall difficulty, but having 2 or 3 sentries actually trivialises reactor if you position them correctly

[strange rover]

how so?

[frail heart]

They’re just good

Its more the fact that mines will do more for you than 1 extra sentry

[prime musk]

you can place them backwards facing for tanks, and forwards facing forwards for everything else
and with 3 they kill almost everything for you

(same hold spot as what tgb showed)

but the mines and foam, while not very helpful in reactor, makes the rest of the level A LOT easier

[ripe hamlet]

r6d2sec uplink is evil

[tardy ingot]

Hm?

[ripe hamlet]

we bought bio + foam and got cooked

[prime musk]

correct you should cancel it using the error !!

[ripe hamlet]

we really should

[tardy ingot]

oh you were duoing?

[ripe hamlet]

yup

[tardy ingot]

cancelling def is the easiest way

foam and bio also dont do that much for this lvl tbf

[ripe hamlet]

need foam for class 5 cluster

[tardy ingot]

nah*

hel rifle can solo hold unironically

Step outside the room

you push spawns a bit and get free lines

[ripe hamlet]

bio we could swap out but itd make that one alarm annoying

[tardy ingot]

sniper sentry and bio

2 burst sentrys

thats kinda what I ran for my duos of it

The cluster alarm is a pretty free hold until the double big red where you fall back

flyer alarm was prob the most annoying part for my duos hence the sentry/ies

[ripe hamlet]

sec is just way harder than main lmao

for duo anyway

ill try solo hold with hel rifle next time

sounds fun

[prime musk]

there are 2 directions of enemies

and it's a dual uplink

you don't get to solo hold

[ripe hamlet]

i mean cluster alarm

[prime musk]

oh yeah that's very doable

[fathom ice]

you die

[ripe hamlet]

we prob have to cancel the uplink

[fathom ice]

oh

my bad you win

[wispy fox]

Fairly new player here, At some point I saw there was a letter on one of the ennemies. I assume it's a keybind of some sort, how do I do it ?

[ripe hamlet]

letter on enemy?

[normal granite]

uhh i dont think there are letters on enemies

do you mean the big triangle?

[ripe hamlet]

you mean red marker?

thats from bio tracker

[wispy fox]

It was a blue/teal C

Maybe I hallucinated, or missed something obvious

[ripe hamlet]

did you play with random

[normal granite]

yeah i think you are remembering something wrong

[ripe hamlet]

they might have some mods

[sudden nexus]

[[R4B3]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R4B3

[median glacier]

Do you already have to be moving sideways as a striker comes up to you to bait it? It seems like if I wait for the audio cue its too late I get hit

[prime ore]

if you are not constantly moving youll get tagged most of the times

[mystic rock]

purely dependant on the angle that he starts tonguing you can't give an easy answer for that

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Enemy_Attacks here if you are interested

[median glacier]

Gothca, appreciate it

this shit is so funny

[past mesa]

The infinite hallways speaks for you

[shy tangle]

Hi all, I'm back trying to duo R2E1 again, with some questions about the end part of it.
We've been able to get past the first error alarm quite well now after switching to double sentry, but have been stuck trying to clear the last zone as we get sandwiched by a room waking up and the error waves starting to spawn like 7-10 guys at that point (we haven't made it to the final room yet).
Our new strategy is trying to get to the final room as fast and healthy as possible and holding the back area of the room with sentries to clear out the zone, but we haven't gotten that far yet as one of us usually dies in the pull and the attempt is over due to too many enemies.

Here's an image of our gameplan in the final zone, green line being our general path and red X's being potential holdout points if we need to stop to clear the room, but we don't have many attempts this late into the run yet so it's mostly theoretical.

Do the path and holding points look good, or can we improve on it or maybe even on the strategy? Or is it just a matter of getting better/more familiar with the zone? It takes well over an hour to get here each attempt at this point and tbh it really takes a toll on the mental to keep failing

[fathom ice]

are you true duo

(no bots)

[shy tangle]

Yes

[fathom ice]

watch for reference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71WZa7YnhOM&t=9s

error is about how fast u wanna go preferably

double sentry is fine but for consistency we preferred sentry bio

[tiny wyvern]

<@&408548765599793173>

[marble wyvern]

"Your withdrawal of 2500.00 was successfully! "
"Succsessfull"

Bruh not even trying

[shy tangle]

Will take a look in a bit, thanks
We originally started with bio + hel auto but struggled to clear the first error surge alarm with it

[fathom ice]

ye it's kinda rough

u wanna save foggies from first zone

[tiny wyvern]

How is true duo on R2E1 anyways
I'm aware it's kinda iffy towards the end, but I'm not sure by how much

[fathom ice]

its not that bad

kinda fun if go fast

[prime musk]

just playing for clear it's whatever you just have to be comfy overhealing

[fathom ice]

ye

[prime musk]

if you go slow you get to carry big meds and big ammo into error and you're very safe

memorising box spawns is lowkey extremely helpful for last and 2nd to last zone

[shy tangle]

Yup we usually have like 4-6 for the alarm itself (and spend ~2 beforehand while setting up for it)

[prime musk]

if you can manage

saving 1

[shy tangle]

And I'm usually super shaky solo clearing the zone after but that gets easier each attempt

[prime musk]

for regrabbing sentry

is VERY good

[fathom ice]

u should go in tgt

[shy tangle]

And let scout scream?

[fathom ice]

wdym

[shy tangle]

Going in together risks room going loud before getting the scout kill I feel like

Although it's true we waste a lot of time clearing that room allowing the error to get big...

Speaking about zone 605 specifically*

[fathom ice]

your job is to shoot the scout and assasinate giants

[shy tangle]

I will take a look at the video first (also holy moly 27 minutes, usually we get to the error just under an hour)

[prime musk]

don't worry there are like at least 3 minutes of timesave remaining in the run

[tiny wyvern]

lol

[shy tangle]

Starting error with full infection and no health is maximum stress for me watching tbh, well done

[shy tangle]

Also I've never seen this scan pattern in the first error surge before, wild

[fathom ice]

ye it's a bunch

[shy tangle]

The Q2 strat will help a bunch actually, thanks for the link. I think we'll have a bit better of an understanding our next attempt session

[fathom ice]

glad u found it useful

[sturdy glen]

Q2 is banger

[lone elbow]

yo any tips for R1C2?

i always die at the class 4 alarm at the end

chargers just overwhelm me so quickly lol

[prime musk]

sniper sentry is your friend

place it for the long sightlines

play hel rifle special weapon

[lone elbow]

do i bring a mine deployer or a foam launcher

and do i bring 2 sniper sentries or just one sniper sentry with like a burst one paired with it?

rn i m just rocking 2 burst sentries and using hel auto pistol and scattergun

along with foam launcher although i have tried runs with mine deployer too

[prime musk]

assuming it is you and 3 bots

you should just take 3 sniper sentries and bio

and just cover all the long sightlines of any of the alarms and you'll be fine

dropping scatter for HEL rifle will serve you well

hel autopistol is fine'

[lone elbow]

ah ok

i ll try 3 sniper sentries ig then

[lone elbow]

yo this strategy is lwk peak i tried it and i beat it first try it was almost easy too

holy shit ty man

[prime musk]

np

anywhere you have chargers or long sightlines, sniper sentry is your friend

[lone elbow]

yeah man i knew they were good but not THAT good lol

[past mesa]

Enemies generally spawn two rooms away

Even tho there is no doors connecting directly to your main room

You can set up the doors past that with foam and mines

Focusing mainly on north east and south west

You can also rush that alarm

And do it before collecting all the pds

[hoary mason]

Bio synergy with sniper sentries helps them shoot faster on bio marked enemies and occasionally not consume ammo.

[ripe hamlet]

It makes ammo consumption 70% but yeah

[lone elbow]

i just beat all the levels in rundown 1 ggs

rundown 2 next

[fathom ice]

gege

[lone elbow]

ik about that room i m just kinda confused on what a room is considered to be

ik there are like zones with their rooms like 1a 1b etc

but sometimes 2 partial zones are merged together

are they considered one room?

[fathom ice]

a b c are rooms

zones are zones

[lone elbow]

or two seperate rooms?

[lone elbow]

ohhh i c

[fathom ice]

you have a divider in form of a sec door

between zones

[lone elbow]

so even if there are no doors between a and b they are still 2 rooms

[fathom ice]

so you have for example room 1d and room 2a

[fathom ice]

correct

[lone elbow]

i c gotcha

[fathom ice]

there are room dividers from time to time

instead of doors it's just empty space

even tho it's still two different rooms

[lone elbow]

yeah i ve seen that so much in R1C2

[digital mural]

youll learn to identify room dividers pretty fast

[fathom ice]

you can generally tell where divider is if you know where room starts and ends

[lone elbow]

so what if a room has multiple doors

how do ik where the enemies will come from when they spawn in during an alarm

[fathom ice]

if you have multiple 2 rooms away they can come from any of the directions

so you mine and foam both of them

[burnt inlet]

2 rooms away still, rng where they decide

[lone elbow]

hmm ok gotcha

[mystic rock]

with an increased chance for north east and south west spawnpoints

the 2 room rule is not always followed and you can even have enemies spawn on top of you if some conditions are met

I can give examples for when an enemy could spawn on top of you if you want to know

[burnt inlet]

Isn’t this level dependent? (Or are they in a level?)

[burnt inlet]

I’ve had times where giants have spawned literally on top of me

[mystic rock]

I mean every alarm has it's own chance to spawn on specific places but if there are like 3 spawn points it would prefer those directions

[mystic rock]

r5c3 biggest opp for that

if you do main only you will have giants spawn on top of you at extract

[ripe hamlet]

Nah its inherent to the algo for spawning

Wrong reply

[ripe hamlet]

Meant for this one

[burnt inlet]

Hmmm didn’t snow that

[ripe hamlet]

Wiki has a page on it

[burnt inlet]

I didn’t do main only so

[mystic rock]

I have never done main only either

but guess what

this is like the only level where you can do something very specific that you can't really do in any other level

well you could do it in other levels but it's like really useful in this one

you can preload extract scan

then do secondary and boom as soon as you reach extract you just get out instead of waiting 100 seconds on the really bad error

[fathom ice]

omg time to drop a clip

https://www.twitch.tv/skyf1replay/clip/ObliviousPrettyPangolinLitFam-mkdZDYSBVJU-EgRM

[timber shoal]

oh shit

that would be helpful as fuck 😭

[ripe hamlet]

Preloading is always cool

[burnt inlet]

Wait that’s kinda peak lowkey

[raven copper]

wait an it wouldn't matter how much ammo you use on main error since you try an out run sec error anyways.......

[fathom ice]

team you spend quarter of an ammo pack on every main spawn

like please

[timber shoal]

anyway

probably much more helpful on consistent clears

but if you’re going for speed then it’s suboptimal

but bueno to be aware of

[mystic rock]

sky is objective skipping allowed in speedrunning

like you complete extract scan then instantly finish secondary so you don't have to carry extract item

[timber shoal]

would that entail plugging datasphere and completing extract just as the objective updates

[burnt inlet]

Don’t think so, but I think you could preload extract

[burnt inlet]

No I think opening sec door as extract completes

[timber shoal]

opening what sec door

[burnt inlet]

Or getting sec objective as extract completes

[burnt inlet]

To… secondary

[mystic rock]

yeah basically what it is but idk when data sphere becomes an extract item and when secondary ends

[timber shoal]

that doesnt make sense

[fathom ice]

na

[burnt inlet]

Isn’t that when objectives start counting?

[fathom ice]

it was before afaik

[raven copper]

God forbid I make a statement to play with the bit

[timber shoal]

it wouldn’t count if you did it that way

[mystic rock]

you wouldn't complete secondary

[fathom ice]

they banned it with the overlap scan

(4d2)

[burnt inlet]

True team

[mystic rock]

buh

[burnt inlet]

Overlap scan isn’t banned tho right?

[timber shoal]

lameeeeee

[mystic rock]

I mean there's no more overlap scan anyway

[timber shoal]

let me do dumb bullshit to complete my objectives in a weird way

[fathom ice]

it is

[fathom ice]

also true

[mystic rock]

you're not bound to the speedrunning rules for your pubs or stuff

[fathom ice]

i swear i've seen it

[timber shoal]

so true

[mystic rock]

but it is quite a precise trick

[burnt inlet]

Didn’t snow that either

[timber shoal]

could be cool to pull off though

[mystic rock]

it got patched after alt r4 released dw

[fathom ice]

I think people were doing that for 4d2 4c2 and something else

i forgor

but u get the point

[raven copper]

erm actually no you can't do that, fun is actually banned in runs

[timber shoal]

back to burst pistol/short rifle gaming on 55 fov 😔

[swift agate]

r6d1 is so hard man

g

[timber shoal]

as ten chambers intended

[timber shoal]

whatcha struggling with

[swift agate]

the giants mainly

and the gas

[timber shoal]

reactor?

[swift agate]

no reactor is easy

[timber shoal]

oh infectious fog

gotcha

[raven copper]

your such a pub omg.......shooting the sleepers.....guh

[burnt inlet]

You can lower the fog btw

[timber shoal]

giants during scary alarm?

[swift agate]

yeah

[mystic rock]

MINE HAMMER 💥

[raven copper]

finally someone that isn't a pub

[swift agate]

mine turtle

[timber shoal]

kill giants before you pull alarm

[burnt inlet]

Wait is violet doing hotbox stuff?

[raven copper]

jade knows how to properly play the game

[mystic rock]

doesn't sound like it

how are you getting giants even

[timber shoal]

have you been lowering fog?

[raven copper]

man i should do some hotbox stuff

[timber shoal]

was thinking respawn room

but i could b wrong

[burnt inlet]

They spawn in big room

And they said gas?

But like

[timber shoal]

infectious fog

[mystic rock]

yeah but like why would you have giants during an alarm

[burnt inlet]

The fog is non issue

[raven copper]

didn't clear it well

[mystic rock]

if they're struggling with the fog then they ahven't beaten the left side

as for the giants yeah probably just haven't cleared them

and a tip for when you do the apex door

[raven copper]

sneaky giants in the pockets

[timber shoal]

i think if they didn’t kill respawn room right before doing alarm they could b an issue

[mystic rock]

clear first zone of the giant respawn room

[burnt inlet]

Depends how they clear rooms ig

[burnt inlet]

I feel like zone and room should be swapped here

[mystic rock]

yeah yeah room

[raven copper]

or or someone's jus trolling them in lobby xd

[lone elbow]

yo would this work if there was an alarm and i close that door and keep all the others open so the enemies would loop around it?

cuz i heard from someone that they prefer opened doors

and would skip over closed ones entirely by going through the open ones

if i close door 464

[burnt inlet]

What’s that door?

Wait nvm

Didn’t read

[burnt inlet]

This one if you close this and 932 it should be a lower chance of them to go through there

[lone elbow]

hmm i c

[timber shoal]

this alarm in particular has some weird routing

[lone elbow]

i m tryna learn the strats on how people make chokepoints for the enemies by forciing them to go through one path only

[burnt inlet]

But enemies that spawn on door 932 would still break that door and go through

[timber shoal]

normally this would work yeah

[lone elbow]

im tryna save these doors for another alarm class 5 alarm which happens in the same room

[timber shoal]

yeppers

[burnt inlet]

In that case you could (if you wanted to) just open all doors and be safest

The class 2 doesn’t really need much funneling

[lone elbow]

its a class 4 ...

[burnt inlet]

Oh

[lone elbow]

lol

[burnt inlet]

I apparently forgot that level

[timber shoal]

class 4 > class 5 > uplink

[lone elbow]

yeah

[timber shoal]

simply delightful

[burnt inlet]

Wait I’m really fucking dumb

Thought this was the first cargo mission

[lone elbow]

lol

first uplink one

[burnt inlet]

Dodo what’s the one I’m thinking of with the apex door?

Uplink too

[lone elbow]

alright ig i ll experiment a bit and see what happens first when i close the doors then maybe if that fails try opening all the doors

[burnt inlet]

Pretty sure in R2

[burnt inlet]

Yeeee

As in its a b tier, with right loadouts shouldn’t be that bad

[timber shoal]

uhhhhh

cargo??

[burnt inlet]

No the uplink one

The apex is extract

[timber shoal]

uplink one with apex door is r2c1

[burnt inlet]

Im just really smart I ceee

But yea just experiment lowkey @lone elbow

[lone elbow]

yeah yikes they broke down the door damn

i opened door 464 b4 they broke it so ig not is lost

but really interesting imo

[timber shoal]

their pathing on that alarm is annoying as fuck

[burnt inlet]

Enemies have funky pathing in general

[reef rock]

3 room away curse

all your enemies will now spawn 3 rooms away

[lone elbow]

what melee weapon should i use

rn im running the spear

[ripe hamlet]

Hammer

Basically anything is better than spear

[reef rock]

dont listen to snek keep running spear

frfrtho spear sucks

[lone elbow]

oh actually

i liked the spear for long ranged made it easier to deall with scouts

might switch to the hammer then

im prob not gonna use knife cuz i cant kill giants with it

[ripe hamlet]

Jump when trying to kill scout

Make it way easier since you can sprint jump with hammer

[neon gust]

Sniper got 2 bullets

Hiw can I open a ticket with 10cc support

I wanna talk to the manager

[winter breach]

They wont buff sniper

[burnt inlet]

Knife is good if ur having another player on hammer

[prime ore]

How big are those fucking bullets if 2 bullets fit in 1 magazine bruh

[dreamy socket]

nah, wdym, everyone should always run knife only and do melee only all the time

[civic wave]

spreading butter

and jam

and honey

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-gif-21373815

[burnt inlet]

I got tea for you btw

[civic wave]

is there anything knife can't do?

[dreamy socket]

yea?

[timber shoal]

based

[dreamy socket]

stab

[timber shoal]

glitchless kraken kill

[civic wave]

sawed off hel rifle knife

[timber shoal]

r2d2 solo loadout 🔥

[civic wave]

when pigeons feel like falcons

[dreamy socket]

I am the pigeons

[timber shoal]

me when someone’s loadout dictates how good they are at the game

[prime ore]

Bullpup rifle short rifle spear

[civic wave]

i just saw a pigeon fly past, i'm winning

[timber shoal]

alr

[civic wave]

it doesn't expressly, but it's still a shame to limit your exposure to developing different skills

pigeon-holing (wait i'm so smart) into one thing does not often pay dividends

[timber shoal]

if you specialize with a particular loadout and become skilled with it does it really matter if you;re not good with other weapons

legitimately

[civic wave]

depends on where you're going

and what you're doing

[timber shoal]

as long as you’re enjoying the game and playing your part i dont see a problem lmao

[civic wave]

on a personal level it likely doesn't matter, dependent on what i said above

i could not force one loadout everywhere because i need the variety and the variety lets me fill out any gap and play against the levels challenges more

[jaunty tapir]

Oh spill it what weapons

[timber shoal]

myself? i dont play anything specific

i enjoy a range of loadouts

[civic wave]

but it does also feel like it matters when you're in a pub with someone forcing a loadout and they're not getting a great deal of value

[winter breach]

Carbine veruta spear

[timber shoal]

could b a lot worse

carbine is goated

[prime ore]

I don't main anything when I play this I just always change loadouts

[winter breach]

It cant be worser since its the most goated build

[prime ore]

There's just so many weapons to play around with

[winter breach]

Trust

[timber shoal]

i am in fact not trusting

[jaunty tapir]

I was gonna same Slug shotgun/Short Rifle/Bat

[timber shoal]

legitimately some of my favorite weapons

[winter breach]

Burst pisstol sniper and spear

[jaunty tapir]

[prime ore]

But like favourite main is carbine and special probably choke mod

That's really it

[frail heart]

average hater loadout

[dreamy socket]

Sawed-off, Sniper build is the play

[ripe hamlet]

Sawed off scatter

[jaunty tapir]

kek

[ripe hamlet]

Hel revo hel gun is the goated load out

[timber shoal]

erm you ran hel rifle in your e2 solo clear? lameeeeee! run a REAL weapon like veruta like the devs intended, PUB!

[prime ore]

It's two pretty cool weapons what is there to hate

[prime ore]

Based

[civic wave]

REAL

[frail heart]

HAHAHAHAHA @burnt inlet i wanna make a joke

[prime ore]

Double hel loadout

[civic wave]

all ur clear r bad

[prime ore]

That's pretty fire

[ripe hamlet]

Try it

It’s the god gamer loadout

[timber shoal]

its so peak

[prime ore]

Both weapons need headshots so like it makes you lock in even more

Lol

[timber shoal]

hel revo/gun into chargers 🤤

[ripe hamlet]

You can body shot with each to kill a striker

[timber shoal]

quickswap between the two

[ripe hamlet]

It’s max efficiency when running with burst sentry

[timber shoal]

peak gaming

[jaunty tapir]

Hel weapons so your friendly fire can still hit enemies

[prime ore]

Yeah that happened with moth dw

[jaunty tapir]

good

[prime ore]

I gave him a lobotomy and another charger while playing

[jaunty tapir]

Its why i bring Hel machine pistol

[timber shoal]

personally prefer regular machine piss

[prime ore]

I know that but it takes less shots so it's better to just aim for the head

Both are still good w bodies

[jaunty tapir]

i dono, for those two moments i can hold two waves around a corner its p. great

[ripe hamlet]

I mean yeah if you can always hit head it’s crazy good

[jaunty tapir]

Just like hel sentry

[timber shoal]

oh absolutely, hel auto pistol is gonna be significantly more effective at stagger

i just like machine pistol :>

[burnt inlet]

TRUE

[timber shoal]

fwd to me pleab :>

[neon gust]

Its an obese bullet

[low radish]

Burst Pistol / short rifle an spear is better

believe me

-# (please don't)

[livid stone]

Burst pistol + burst cannon

[still zodiac]

I'm still fairly new but absolutely love this game, friends refuse to play and commit to it cause its too hard but I really love the teamwork it requires and the challenge, but I've been trying to get through all of R1 with 3 bots and its a bit of a struggle, should I just be running sentries on them? I dont know best guns for anything

[timber shoal]

tool selection is generally level dependent

where are you stuck in r1?

[calm pulsar]

The general safe loadout for most missions is Bio, Burst Sentry, Mines, Foam (with reactors it's triple sentry most of the time). Tools tend to be a pain to use through bots, but they always do well with Bio as they ping faster than you do. For the other two, I would have them take mines and sentry since those are easier and more consistent than foam on bots

[still zodiac]

me and friends managed to get up to R1C1 completed so I've been trying to do R1C2 on my own since they quit, i manage to make some good progress but the bots tend to waste supply packs and not stand in security alarms alot

the spiky strikers, not sure the name kinda mess me up on some alarm doors

[calm pulsar]

Chargers

[tardy ingot]

I trust the others to help with the level stuff for now

But what exactly do your friends consider too difficult for this game?
(It definetly is a difficult one, but most of that comes from it being quite knowledge based and a lot of that being simple, yet hard to figure out by yourself)

[timber shoal]

first charger alarm is rough

[still zodiac]

they rage quit when it comes to spending an hour sneaking around and then 1 mess up makes us completely have to restart, I try and tell them we just gotta reapproach and not do that but they just close it and go "this is why I hate this game" lol

[raven copper]

let me in vro I gotchu

dtr hel gun carry

[still zodiac]

I actually dont mind the bots but they do tend to mess things up lol

[raven copper]

tomas staaaaaapppppp

[still zodiac]

Im gonna keep runnin solo for now but if I cant learn and make it then ill reach out for some lessons

[digital mural]

Don't play solo

[timber shoal]

average friend reaction to gtfo

[digital mural]

Play with bots at least

[still zodiac]

sorry I meant solo with bots lol

[timber shoal]

its fine for the majority of r1 and r2

[still zodiac]

what ive been doin

[tardy ingot]

Yeeee…

a big part about knowledge in this game is that stealth speeds up A LOT or you can even just shoot stuff for most of the level

Plus a single wake up wont kill a run anymore

It does sadly happen quite often tho that people quit over it

[raven copper]

people feel like stealthing is mandatory for everything then get mad when game takes forever

[timber shoal]

glued down crouch button

:>

[still zodiac]

Yea ive tried to teach them you can pretty easily melee kill 3 enemies on your own rather than doing a 3,2,1 countdown for EVERY group

[raven copper]

ye thats actual cancer

[ocean spindle]

toggle crouch ✨

[tardy ingot]

Theres a reason Walk stealth is like the first point made for the speed up gameplay guide

[digital mural]

Erm but guys
Just mine everything

[still zodiac]

im starting to try the c foam and mine door trick

thats helped a lot

[raven copper]

is it hard being as goated as you are?

[digital mural]

Can you be as hard as I am? Idk

[timber shoal]

lets find out

[digital mural]

JOKES ASIDE

[raven copper]

yes

[digital mural]

You can use mines only and it will work pretty good anyways

[raven copper]

use dtr vro

[still zodiac]

thx tho, joinin the discord was the right call

[raven copper]

double tap rifle my beloved

[normal granite]

but its fun :(

[burnt inlet]

@normal granite rejoin

ur kicked btw

[digital mural]

Yeah I know

I know you can do a lot of levels solo too

But a new person? No way unless they put A LOT of hours

[normal granite]

well i actually solo'd R1 A1, B1, and B2 by the time i had 60 hours

[digital mural]

You, my man, are cracked

[normal granite]

now im at 500 and im getting back into solo

doing C2 next

[digital mural]

R1C2?

[normal granite]

ya

[digital mural]

Good luck

[normal granite]

i have been told by zef to literally just ladderfoam

[ripe hamlet]

true solo?

[normal granite]

yeah

no bots

[digital mural]

Tbf everything is fair in solo

[ripe hamlet]

thats the play lmao

final alarm is very painful

[normal granite]

im gonna try doing it without foam but yeah

[normal granite]

i was just gonna do both alarms at once

98/99 and 100

[ripe hamlet]

you might run out of ammo before then

[normal granite]

true

[prime musk]

no it was IRONIC

just slot the sniper sentry PLEASE

[grizzled patrol]

C2 do be stacked with ammo

[normal granite]

hmmmmmmmm should i tho?

[ripe hamlet]

sadly you can only hold one pack at a time

and double alarm solo is kinda cooked

[grizzled patrol]

reposition to the second pack after you have used up the one on hand

[ripe hamlet]

true

[prime musk]

im going to crash out man

4th straight attempt of e2 bot solo where in nm6 zone i get
-double mom
-no ammo access
-no tool access

like fuck OFF

[ripe hamlet]

🥀

are you going to cancel the alarms

[prime musk]

it seems like it's doable to not cancel anything, but it seems VERY tight on both time and resources

ie very luck dependent

im playing for cancel

[ripe hamlet]

understandable

[prime musk]

generally, i make it to hub time with about 1 minute on the clock, and based on current attempts finish reactor with again about 1 minute left

so im playing for nm6 + surge + wave 3 cancel rn

[ripe hamlet]

ic

[prime musk]

mb died to double mom because it was scout 123213 smalls mom and i didn't expect the 2nd mom

im actually losing it

[prime musk]

-successful tp at correct timing
-tp back and get punched by 10 nightmares at same time and die (was at 100% health)

this game sucks

like i understand i will have to manage my wave position better

[frail heart]

Scout + double mom is the ultimate troll

[prime musk]

listen it's fine

if the second mom makes ANY sound so that you know it's there

[strange kraken]

Excuse me guys, can I ask a question? How many alarm types do some doors have? Isn't surge an endless horde alarm?

[normal granite]

surge is an alarm type where enemies keep spawning until spawn cap (25 iirc) and they will respawn every time you kill one

[fathom ice]

yes

[strange kraken]

Oh I see, also how do I know, how many scans do I have to do for specific alarms levels?

[fathom ice]

it says class something

[normal granite]

The different alarm types are:

Normal - starts with a team scan, then goes to either 4x small scans or 1/2 larger scans
Stealth - doesnt spawn enemies and
Diminished - spawns less enemies
Mixed - mix of different alarm types
Cluster - lots of small scans
Surge - always max enemy spawn cap
Sustain - team scan but progress slowly goes down if not every one is in it
T - this one moves
Dual - only in a single level

[fathom ice]

that something means how many sets of scans u need to do

[normal granite]

the class on the door is the amount of scans

[strange kraken]

Oh. How many scans do I do if its class 4?

[normal granite]

4, including the start

which level is this?

[strange kraken]

I'm still at R1

im new xd

[normal granite]

R1A1?

[strange kraken]

just doing solo atm.

No no R1B2

[normal granite]

the class 4 in that level has 1 team scan, then 3 sets of 4x small scans

[burnt inlet]

Learning surge in r1 hmmmm

[timber shoal]

r1e1 surge

[normal granite]

R1E1 trust

[timber shoal]

duh

[burnt inlet]

True

[strange kraken]

Oh was it R1E1? I'm sorry, im not familiar with these yet xd

[normal granite]

no no we are joking

[burnt inlet]

No r1e1 doesn’t exist in base game

[normal granite]

there is no R1E1 besides mods

[burnt inlet]

It’s a mod

[raven copper]

moth r5d1 log rn

[burnt inlet]

R2, r4, r5, r7, r8 has e tier

[strange kraken]

Oh I see! haha! Well thank you for providing me with info!

[burnt inlet]

Mb

[timber shoal]

calc

short for calculator

[raven copper]

jus in case your new to the stream ofc

[burnt inlet]

I’m new to the stream

[raven copper]

o great so calc is short for calculator

[burnt inlet]

What could one do with this calc?

[raven copper]

calculate

https://tenor.com/view/galaxy-brain-gif-25912556

[ripe hamlet]

Chatgpt it

Ezclap

[frail heart]

what is this

i cant read finnish

those who snow

[ripe hamlet]

nah it’s danish

[burnt inlet]

It’s giga ez

[burnt inlet]

Draw graphs which has asymptotes

[frail heart]

if it was danish i could probably make it out 9head

[frail heart]

cringe bro

i never did that so its cringe

i like the algebra tho

[burnt inlet]

It’s kinda dreary ngl

[dreamy socket]

that looks fun

[burnt inlet]

It’s not peak

[dreamy socket]

its basic methods

the typa stuff i'd do as a warmup in school

[ocean spindle]

maths sleeps

[burnt inlet]

It’s incredibly basic and can be done in head by like a baby, I’d rather something challenging

[frail heart]

Wait so what are you actually doing in those

Just drawing a graph?

Or what

[dreamy socket]

ok, fair ig

[burnt inlet]

Yes

Like by hand

[frail heart]

Aight

[burnt inlet]

So like you draw the asymptote by hand

And it’s just repeat the same 4 steps and genuinely giga boring

[frail heart]

Yeah no idea what a asymptote is

Oh

It’s the uhhh

The line the graph gets infinitely close to or whatever

[grave bluff]

Is this algebra 2?

Like Vertical asymptote and horizontal asymptote

[burnt inlet]

We take a more generalized maths instead of several different ”chapters”, could think of this as calc 2 though

[burnt inlet]

Plotting it with derivatives though but yea

[ripe hamlet]

cal 2 is a psyop

only cal 1 and cal 3 exists

[grave bluff]

Interesting

[marble wyvern]

Question about soloing, what is long kiting? Does long kiting count in the context of a big room with strikers? or does it count in the context of moving the strikers through multiple rooms within one zone? Or does long kiting only count if you run the strikers up and down the map?

like what exactly is the cutoff for what people call long kiting

[mystic rock]

kiting would usually just be like staying in the room and moving around to have them in a better position while long kiting would be to make distance between you and the enemy to have a duration where you have no enemies and are allowed to do stuff

[marble wyvern]

yeah but like, pretend i solo a level, if I wanted to title the video, no long kiting, which one of the above conditions would need to be met

[mystic rock]

just not going long to make distance between you and the enemies and instead shooting them head on

[marble wyvern]

but isn't that subjective, like what qualifies as distance

[mystic rock]

it is subjective like this isn't a game mechanic idk what else you want

[marble wyvern]

general consensus position

[mystic rock]

literally what I said

[marble wyvern]

within a room or a zone?

[mystic rock]

i don't know what you want from me

[thick stump]

from Jade's explanation, it sounds like long kiting is over several rooms, maybe over one zone, because you want the enemies to kinda far away from you, so you can do stuff like scans

[mystic rock]

a room can be 10 meter squared and it can be a kilometer long

it is purely distance based

[marble wyvern]

Ok, so distance is across multiple rooms, therefore, long kiting, qualifies if it is within one zone, but probably not within a single large room

[uneven kiln]

Long kiting usually involves shootercap or giantcap and closing security doors to gain even more distance

The game REQUIRES you to kite in some spots

[marble wyvern]

Right, but you could long kite with strikers too right?

in principle

[mystic rock]

you can long kite with anything even babies

[uneven kiln]

not really a good idea generally but yeah, with ladderfoaming to stop how fast they move

That’s how solo R2E1 is done

[mystic rock]

it's literally just about your pathing and how well you can fuck up their pathing over how ledges and stuff

[tardy ingot]

theres also the thing whether you are running away to do smth or to smth directly

say you pull a blood door and then run to an alarm

I wouldnt call that long kiting even if you go far to the alarm

however pulling the blood door

Running away, then back. Thats long kiting

[marble wyvern]

oh ok so there are other considerations, like alarm-blood door proximity, or maybe, dual uplink alarm turning off shennigans

[tardy ingot]

honestly most levels in the game do not need long kiting rly

you can also super easily kite for long times in a singular medium/big sized room

[marble wyvern]

I'm just asking cause I want to understand this so if I titled a video no long kiting people don't feel its misrepresenting the video

[marble wyvern]

Definitely agree on this

[tardy ingot]

Is this about a specific level or just in general?

[marble wyvern]

Just in general, like for when im soloing, I'm just interested in the kind of various tiers of achievement when you solo

[tardy ingot]

First is most probably abusing spawn capping (getting things stuck)

Below would be (in no specific order)

• mods
• Abusing spawn capping (not stuck)
• boosters
• seeded

[marble wyvern]

this makes sense

[tardy ingot]

Long kiting kind of would fall into spawn capping without getting things stuck

but tbf. Kiting doesnt necessitate spawn cap (could just kite a singular tank if you wanted lol)

[topaz anvil]

y'all remember went we went long for fun? 😔

[tardy ingot]

We got long kited by brandon earlier this year smh

[uneven kiln]

long kiting is generally understood as several zones, getting to spawncap, filtering enemies, to buy so much time that when a lap is done you don’t even see enemies, potentially for a couple minutes with ladderfoaming

Kiting, which the game forces you to do at times especially in E Tiers, is generally understood as the alarm room or an adjacent room to the alarm room to try and get to difficult scans or objective/res locations where holding a position is often extremely risky.

One of the earliest examples of being put into a position to kite is R1B1, if you get the scan location directly in front of spawn where everything is pouring out from, same thing happens in R2E1 first alarm

[topaz anvil]

[marble wyvern]

thanks for this

[prime musk]

i think anything that stays in a single zone is short kiting and multiple zones is long
the main distinction though
is that short kiting is about repositioning yourself relative to the wave
while long kiting is about giving yourself a bunch of time to do stuff before wave catches up

[uneven kiln]

yeah, generally agree

[tardy ingot]

short kiting through r6bx secondary zone and long kiting through r8a1 alarm and mwp zone

the actual explanation is very much it tho

[uneven kiln]

R2E1 Error, R5E1 first Error intended route, and something that has you go a long distance like R4C3 PE or R5D1 Error I dont think counts as long kiting outright unless you would proceed to doubleback through the zones and then do the whole usual long kiting stuff

you're just meant to deal with a heavy enemy influx while doing stuff

[prime musk]

yeah kinda

if you're just progressing the objective (which requires moving in a certain direction) all the enemies spawning behind you doesn't make it long kiting

[past mesa]

If your always killing

It is okay to run away

honestly if you main method of making progress is running away your long kiting

but if you “long kite” to recover a sus position it is whatever

I think you should mainly think about how are you making progress

And when

[still zodiac]

do the bots ever use the disinfectant packs? bishop stole 1 I need

nvm he JUST used it on me

[ocean spindle]

lol

[still zodiac]

he was refusing to use it on me

mustve seen me message the discord in frustration

[uneven kiln]

Purposefully infect yourself to about 22-23%

the threshold is right around there

Same thing for med

77-78% HP

[ocean spindle]

isnt it 20 flat

or 21

[still zodiac]

not sure what or where it is but when do you hit the like lush plant filled labratory style maps? ive managed to make it about half way through R2 so far solo with bots and im excited to see that map style

saw a little peak of it from a friends gameplay

[tardy ingot]

waaaay later

gardens show up in R7

[still zodiac]

awww

they look so cool

[tardy ingot]

yea
they do eat frames tho

[still zodiac]

oh and thanks D4RK ive been watching your videos for knowledge

didnt evne realize it was you haha

[tardy ingot]

[frail heart]

Should be watching mine 😔

[civic wave]

the goat quickstart gtfo guide will come eventually

[still zodiac]

ive been goin through a bunch of different youtubers lol

they all helpful af

[ripe hamlet]

real og watch hanimoon's adhd-editted guides

[fathom ice]

theyre peak

[still zodiac]

can you stealth melee sleepers around a scout without alerting it?

or should I bum rush the scout

[tardy ingot]

if they are in proximity aggro range then do neither rly

scouts will insta scream upon an enemy wake up or kill in prox aggro range

[sudden nexus]

those bypass the random cooldown right?

[past mesa]

GTFO style guide

is real

just only unlocked once you posses the ability to be stylish

[finite oracle]

in e2 which door does the secondary prevent opening? like what door is locked until you finish the secondary

[prime musk]

there is no door locked behind secondary specifically
the door to KDS (portal room) requires both kraken to be dead and reactor to be completed
and the door to the hallway into kds requires either kraken to be dead or reactor to be completed

[ocean spindle]

a

didnt know it worked like that

[prime musk]

i mean in practice you do reactor because otherwise you don't have the resources to do class 6

but i suppose you could open reactor to grab res, and then go do class 6/kraken and do reactor with kds res

[ripe hamlet]

do both kraken and reactor at the same time

[undone raven]

I'm so excited omg

[marble wyvern]

ok, now I'm curious, what happens if you activate kraken and run away? Can you spawn multiple of them? how many can the game handle

[undone raven]

They actually are like the best guides for this game ever

Gerz has some good guides too

[prime musk]

i suppose if you full stick nm6 during wave 1, and then s6 during wave 2, and then kraken kill during wave 3, you're like maybe good? idk it's like very weird

actually speed wise how would that work out

actually

speed wise it's not unplayable

it's just like
horrific to play and not better than current route

it's probably about as fast. with worst possible code plugs for every code you'll be 5 behind, and you're virtually guaranteed to make up those 5 during code 1 and 2 (code 3 you have a kraken to kill so you can't get teamscan done)

[tardy ingot]

ngl killing kraken and getting back during wave 3 and code 3 is already a suuper long endeavour

[prime musk]

not really

you have scatter + 2 kraken killer leave after code 2 scan

and then you get 3:20 of wave

and then you eat 3 min of code time and you're good

getting code 2 slow doesn't matter here. because the limitation is kraken killers getting back

[tardy ingot]

run out is still ~ 100+ seconds

• 50 seconds spawn

• ~10-15 sec per tumor kill x5

• 50 sec x4
  Then another 100+ to run back

[prime musk]

kraken kill is 6 minutes max from command

• running

[tardy ingot]

About 500 seconds or so hmm

so its def doable

but like

yikes

[prime musk]

it is a route where the timings work out

[marble wyvern]

someone should do it I wanna see the vid

[prime musk]

that seems about equivalent in speed

but it seems catastrophic to execute

[tardy ingot]

You get 10 minutes (plus whatever you take to get and plug code 2)

[long atlas]

Irrelevant question but how likely is it that a snatcher from the R7D1 "error" spawns out of bounds or in another zone that's unopened?

[prime musk]

probably close to 0, more likely is that it bugged out and never acquired a target

[prime musk]

do you know where reactor wave spawns when you're pushing from shadow/kraken zone

[long atlas]

I didn't explore enough but directionally, it spawned towards the Tank zone(that potentially has the keycard) and I never found it sitting around, nor the red triangle anywhere nearby. I should've tried looking for it but I never saw it for the next hour of playtime

[tardy ingot]

wdym pushing from :o?

[marble wyvern]

why is r7d1 in particular so buggy

[tardy ingot]

i checked my notes rn for timing stuff

But unless the run from 1st kds deep (hallway) door to balcony in kraken zone is 45-50 seconds then fastest strat is not killing kraken during 3rd reactor wave

[prime musk]

like if im spawnpushing reactor wave by being in s6 alarm room
where does reactor wave spawn

[tardy ingot]

if kraken is open they can derp out in there

I know that if you are in kraken room they do love spawning in 492 (room to left of stealth scans)

[prime musk]

i mean 45s sounds about right for making it from kds door to kraken area B

[tardy ingot]

mmh

Reactor term to shadow door is about that time frame

so i think it should be slightly less (altho tile dependent)

its so sad honestly that kraken isnt a forced spawn like pablo in r7e1

would make fastest strat so consistent

As it stands if it spawns 30 seconds or more late it just feels like shit

[tardy ingot]

Big map with lots of things going on

(Meme sentence but half true)

[tardy ingot]

but I would have to recheck

Its not a distance I bothered timing during tests for optimal route

it basically is counterweight to running while kraken is in cycle transition

which is typically 50 seconds

[long atlas]

If the the error alarm does indeed spawn 19 snatchers exactly, then one of them failed to spawn at the usual time interval and I still only encountered 19, despite hearing the scream for a 20th. Still bizarre and I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding something about what happened

[uneven kiln]

Not many people stick around the whole way… where did you say the snatcher spawned?

The level has a lot of disconnected navmesh and enemies can spawn out of bounds or in bounds but be unable to path to players

Another thing by the way is that if you get grabbed by a snatcher and there are actively enemies spawning, they can possibly spawn in snatcherdim out of bounds

[burnt inlet]

is rejoining a way to fix interact bug?

[normal granite]

Ya

[long atlas]

It seemed to spawn towards the tank area, I can pull up a video of the footage I had. However it occurred to me that as I tried to recreate this, the entire room is a different tile for some reason, which I didn't know could happen

[normal granite]

https://tenor.com/view/static-glitch-gif-11312357

The audio on that lol

[long atlas]

Wait does it sound bad? I thought it was perfectly bad bit rate lmao

[normal granite]

Oh weird

I just downloaded the file and it sounds fine

But in discord on my phone its pure static

Maybe because im using an okd version of discord

[long atlas]

Regardless yeah, I hear a snatcher spawn there, I didn't go looking for it because I was trying to get a clear with bots only, which is also why I happened to kill all the snatchers to make the main objective less annoying
And that room in particular with the scout was a different room when I was testing it for some reason

[long atlas]

Holy that sounded awful, I don't know how that happened to you but it looks good on my end

[agile field]

Good on my end

[still zodiac]

Sup gamers, question, is it possible to get ALL apparel?

like after beating the game fully can you be missing some?

I know the RNG stuff for clothes and thats what worries me lol

[prime musk]

there are some pieces that were only limited time available through some events

but there are also more rng drops than there are missions, so you will randomly miss out on a couple of them (3 iirc?)

there are mods to give you all the cosmetics.

[uneven kiln]

This is the full list of stuff

[quick phoenix]

in r7c3 do we need to do the overload with the 20 minute countdown?

or can we wait for it to end

[prime musk]

you can do it whenever ig
but it IS the case that enemies don't stop spawning just because the timer goes to 0

[quick phoenix]

thats so rough

alarm is insane

[long atlas]

There is an uplink cancel you can do to prevent the enemies from spawning infinitely, but it is not the intended method to beat the level. Basically get through the overload, start the first uplink, get it to the last code input, then wait for the 20 minutes to end before inputting the code.
Minor uncertainty, I don't know if you have to wait for the enemies to spawn in order to cancel their respective error alarms. You might be able to do it immediately or you'll have to wait to input the last code

[prime musk]

you should know that the uplinks in the overload have NOTHING tied to them, they don't add any enemies

it's just more stuff to fit into the timer

[long atlas]

Yeah, doing what I mentioned makes the 2nd uplink completely free because of that

[quick phoenix]

i don't quite get what you mean, is that a bug?

[timber shoal]

the uplinks having nothing tied to them or the ability to cancel the alarm?

cancelling the alarm is unintended but the uplinks having no enemies is intended

[quick phoenix]

well we just beat it so

yipee

[ripe hamlet]

did you uplink cancel

[quick phoenix]

nope

got to the exit door with 3 minutes to spare too

[ripe hamlet]

nice

[still zodiac]

anyone else get their audio broken by scout shouts?

[ripe hamlet]

it can happen if they overlap too many times

[still zodiac]

ah

[ripe hamlet]

what lvl are you in

[still zodiac]

Just came back to R1D1 for a friend and it just happened past the first alarm door

the room with 2 scouts

they complained a few times abotu it

[ripe hamlet]

it shouldnt happen with just 2 scouts

how scuff did the audio become

[still zodiac]

not sure, I only got it for a microsecond but seems like my friend described it as listening to the game through a tin can or far away

and its only happening when scouts are involved

[ripe hamlet]

yeah sounds like scout scream breaking audio

idk if theres a mod fix available for it

ive only ever heard of one person having it after all

[still zodiac]

yea I couldnt find anything online so figured Id come here

thx tho

[ripe hamlet]

maybe ask in gtfo modding discord

[grizzled patrol]

Restarting the Game fixes it, but If you are Host then sucks to suck

I guess you can use the AllSoundsAreBruh vineboom

Then it doesnt Matter If you are soundbugged or Not, you will still hear only one Thing

[runic roost]

Buh

[jaunty tapir]

Ok someone help me out here

[raven copper]

with?

[jaunty tapir]

sec im finishing the doodle

was doing R6b2 and lost cuz of skill issue.

Why did monsters spawn in 4?

I was thinking like this would be actually somewhat a challenge if two doors are being attacked but

only thought 1 would of been

[timber shoal]

uplinks spawn enemies closer than alarm doors do

[jaunty tapir]

lame

[timber shoal]

alarm spawns are forced to be 2 rooms away

[jaunty tapir]

Why didnt yall tell me this earlier 😅

[timber shoal]

uplinks can be 1-2

[raven copper]

what dodo_pub said ye

[jaunty tapir]

well shit

[timber shoal]

my fault

[jaunty tapir]

sure is

[raven copper]

[timber shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841800228990222371/1301289866394341487/togif.gif

[raven copper]

killing .myself

[jaunty tapir]

if only i knew

[timber shoal]

b2's not that bad

[jaunty tapir]

well, now i do

Its not

im working on my solo game and doing pretty decent

[timber shoal]

those uplinks can be pretty hard though since theyre so cramped

[prime ore]

Is this how it's supposed to be or it's just game jank

For me enemies always spawned 2 rooms not 1

[timber shoal]

intended i think

[timber shoal]

it tries to spawn them 2 rooms away

[raven copper]

stev what's your spawn chance in this server I swear your on whenever I am

[jaunty tapir]

Oh heres another question from that screen shot

[prime ore]

Does it matter

[raven copper]

is it a channel dependent spawn rate or jus overall?

[jaunty tapir]

Why did the enemies path downwards to break door 287

i had an open door on the north side of that

is that room a split spawn or somthin

[prime ore]

Closer exit

[raven copper]

if your closer to the door they will sometimes

[timber shoal]

if they spawn too close they'll break it

[prime ore]

So they preferred that

[jaunty tapir]

right so they simply spawned more south in that room

[raven copper]

also depends spawn

ye

[jaunty tapir]

are the spawn locations static-ish?