#gtfo-related-questions

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fathom ice
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(tbf same with veruta but you know)

digital mural
median glacier
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yea klust feels kinda like head honcho

fathom ice
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also use weapon names instead of manufacturers

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(except mg)

civic wave
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bring me my model 8

fathom ice
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!!

median glacier
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get me the HEL weapon

tardy ingot
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all distinct hmm

sudden nexus
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hel sentry

runic roost
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Where is my drekker gun

normal granite
ripe hamlet
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okay

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r6d2 class V cluster is actually crazy intense for duo

prime musk
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slot the foam launcher

ripe hamlet
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permafoaming 🄰

prime musk
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i would also advise you use the deactivate alarms command at the end of that error to cancel flyer alarm in sec but that's a bit cheesy

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ig you could also use it to deactivate charger fog alarm at beginning of mission (or both)

ripe hamlet
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we took bio and sentry so that fog alarm is easy

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but without sentry the flyer alarm is going to be sus

prime musk
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the flyer alarm will suck regardless of tools and guns

ripe hamlet
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true

toxic jetty
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Hey guys, any suggestions for such an awesome situation

ocean spindle
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can u drop to the bottom?
well as a last resouce*

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idk if theres floor on that tile but if there isnt

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u should tp back to the top

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otherwise if parkour doesnt work maybs downing them and pickking back up puts em in place?

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i seen it happen when inside the floor or behind some objects

raven copper
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if no free thyself thrn might be ggs

toxic jetty
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Unfortunately we couldn't revive them through the railing + invisible wall and there was floor at the bottom

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As if R7E1 isn't hard enough

raven copper
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if thats teleport area could leave, teleport then join back

toxic jetty
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Nah that's reactor

raven copper
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o wait its r7e1

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oops

toxic jetty
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Ah well, time to give r5e1 another go

raven copper
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if you play modded get free thyself mod to unstick yourself from shit like that

remote ginkgo
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so, friend of mine is new to the game, still hasn't gotten the die together achievement no matter how many times he's wiped
known issue? it'll be pretty funny if he gets everything but this one

normal granite
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You need to have 4 players (not bots) in the lobby and all die to get it

remote ginkgo
normal granite
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Amy mods?

remote ginkgo
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nope ruled that out with vanilla client runs

normal granite
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MTFO disables achievements by default in the config file

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Hmm

remote ginkgo
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its bizarre!!

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at this point he needs to stick with the game, getting everything but this one would be funny

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bizarre stuff

prime musk
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team

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does killing kraken in e2 run a deactivate_alarms

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we forgot admin and got nightmare error triggered during kraken. but pulled through and killed kraken, and then we didn't get any more nightmares

sturdy glen
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it does

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apparently

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type 10 event on boss death unless im mistaken

prime musk
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i will take a look at the datablocks

sturdy glen
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thats what im lookin at

frail heart
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Yeah it does

rich field
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can i place collectibles back into lockers?

prime musk
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nop

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you can replace items already in a locker, which keeps the slot in the locker, but if you pick it up without carrying something that goes in the same slot the placement in the locker/box is gone forever

rich field
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ohhhhh okay

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we probably shouldve done that

prime musk
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if you're playing r1c1 don't bother, you get more time between waves later on and have ample time to go back and grab anything you need

burnt inlet
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is R8A2 main decently doable with bots

fathom ice
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yes

normal granite
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the only difficulty in r8a2 is the class 5, and secondary

burnt inlet
normal granite
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yeah

burnt inlet
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felt that tbh

cerulean fjord
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Has anyone here tried out the 8 player mod?

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im new to it.

burnt inlet
cerulean fjord
burnt inlet
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but afaik its just create a lobby and send codes like usual

burnt inlet
cerulean fjord
# burnt inlet yep

well that that i can agree since my asia lobby dont work well with german servers.

uneven kiln
frail heart
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The lobby expander mod is quite stable now

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Way more than it was before

past mesa
burnt inlet
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yanno

past mesa
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Don’t place like more than.4 turrets

burnt inlet
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but it can be stable

past mesa
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it can
Badly
Impact performance

tiny wyvern
burnt inlet
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yes

past mesa
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You get the room unloading sometimes

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Or flashlight unable to turn on

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Or off

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or sound bug moments

frail heart
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The game doesn’t have enough like asset allocations or some shit

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Idk

wet bear
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Extra sentries just kill room forever at some point

past mesa
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I think it is likely that there is a total number of non enemies objects that can be loaded in a single room and if you go to far over the assumption limit you get issues

frail heart
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I get void bug so much because the game doesn’t account for the amount of ass I have

past mesa
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Well unless your ass is made up of many objects or have many objects entering it. Then it shouldn’t void

frail heart
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The latter

median glacier
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whats a good loadout for bots main and special weapons

prime ore
median glacier
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Ah ok, thanks

prime ore
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They love to use burst weapons more and they are mostly better cuz they can burst cancel

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So it makes the game way less frustrating

prime ore
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It's way better to just find ppl rather than doing with bots

median glacier
median glacier
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You guys got tips on reliably dealing with rooms with like multiple big bois and small bois mixed in?

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can't reliably stealth all of them especially when theres like 2 big bois next to each other, its either i kill all the smalls and aggro the big guys to shoot them or killing one of the smalls wakes up the bigs and i have to shoot anyway

azure stone
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Question about scout behavior does alerting a scout spawn enemies 2 rooms away from its location or the player's (Assuming you shoot it from a different room)?

burnt inlet
median glacier
median glacier
burnt inlet
ocean spindle
# median glacier yea duos

usually for those situations of 2 bigs or more yeah pulling is good, put down defenses and shoot with ur biggest dmg gun

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but u shhould learn to melee bigs that are alone

burnt inlet
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^

median glacier
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Ah ok

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yea someone said bring burst guns so i just gave the bots a carbine and burst rifle and two MG klusts and called it a day

azure stone
burnt inlet
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Had runs die due to scout wave being split spawns before

ocean spindle
cerulean fjord
blissful dagger
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Does anyone know if there is 10chambers employes in this server,I asked something on gheir contact email,but got no response.If there is any,can I post a screenshot of the email here plus ask some other question to them?

blissful dagger
blissful dagger
west raven
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Smol

pure lodge
cold badge
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anyone knows why I can't drop down?

timber shoal
cold badge
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nope

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I exit the expedition to change guns

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then could not rejoin

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even after game restart

timber shoal
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ah

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interestingg

cold badge
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running vanilla game as well

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so no mods installed or anything

timber shoal
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gotcha

ripe hamlet
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get everyone to restart

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might be host problem

timber shoal
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yeah its probably not your fault at this point

cold badge
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šŸ‘ thank you

remote ginkgo
rich field
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say i shoot a scout and miss its head (hits its body) is it invincible while its blue

remote ginkgo
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yee

rich field
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shi okay

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thanks

remote ginkgo
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you have a tiny window of time immediately afterwards, rapid shooting to stop the scream is a thing i believe, but once they're blue you are fucked usually

timber shoal
rich field
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okay so if i want to kill it the optimal time to do it is when the tentacles are as far out as possible?

timber shoal
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with melee?

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or with a gun?

remote ginkgo
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does tendril length matter for retraction time?? I thought it was fixed

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could be completely wrong tho

timber shoal
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though if you touch a tendril as it’s already retracting and it returns to the scout before 1 second has passed, it won’t scream

remote ginkgo
timber shoal
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though that’s another thing entirely

rich field
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probably sniper

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im scared to stab

timber shoal
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knife or spear

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also sawed off shotgun, choke mod shotgun, regular shotgun, scattergun, hel rifle, sniper, precision rifle, and hi caliber pistol all one shot scouts to the head

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assuming you’re close enough

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also hel gun, revolver and slug shotgun kill with a shot to the back of the head

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probably forgetting some

timber shoal
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yeppers

tardy ingot
timber shoal
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i don’t play with full auto weapons tbh but i assume quite a few can kill scouts if you mag dump their occi

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bullpup ik

rich field
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lowkey i think the HEL revolver and regular shotgun are a good idea cause i usually have one

timber shoal
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short rifle is another hehehe

rich field
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precision rifle i use sometimes so thats good too

rich field
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im so ass at knifing tho so i gotta get better at that

timber shoal
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prec rifle is a lil more situational but generally not a bad pick

timber shoal
remote ginkgo
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join the gavel gang luka

rich field
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gavel gang?

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omg gavel gang

rich field
timber shoal
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tragic

rich field
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but as much as i want to play with others i dont want to spoil it :/

timber shoal
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many such cases though

tardy ingot
timber shoal
tardy ingot
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like slug shotgun

rich field
timber shoal
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or wait can it kill as is

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with a regular head shot

tardy ingot
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slug kills from front

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ya

timber shoal
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oh damn alr

rich field
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maybe a stupid question but how do i know which way the scout is facing

timber shoal
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i was unaware of slug shotty’s game

timber shoal
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its body is the most reliable way to tell imo

keen seal
rich field
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okok makes sense

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is it a good idea if i practice by myself

keen seal
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also from what way they've been walking

remote ginkgo
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there are scout kill playground mods but even in vanilla there shouuuld be levels that start with them

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but you'll get the hang of it dw

rich field
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maybe i dont wait for my friends

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imma solo the whole game myself šŸ¤“

timber shoal
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frosty better watch out

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his record boutta be contested

keen seal
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not sure if anyone mentioned it but hammer and spear need to hit the head and knife and bat need to hit the back of the head

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for melee breakpoints

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full charges ofc

rich field
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does difficulty scale with players

keen seal
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no

remote ginkgo
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nope

rich field
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shit

keen seal
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you'll get fucked if you go in completely alone

remote ginkgo
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if your group are cool with you lfg'ing outside of your sessions just do that imo

rich field
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whats lfging...

remote ginkgo
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looking for groups

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like matchmaking through discord tl;dr

keen seal
uneven gulchBOT
frail heart
rich field
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ill hide activity and whatnot

keen seal
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lol

rich field
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if they have a problem they shouldve played with me more

remote ginkgo
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based based

timber shoal
frail heart
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Check stfu

rich field
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is anyone able to hop on in a bit to teach me some stuff or should i do that in lfg

timber shoal
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idk where to look

frail heart
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No bro you gotta work for it

timber shoal
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fuck

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i’m gonna go to bed instead

keen seal
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huge

timber shoal
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less than five hours of sleep here i come

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goon night yall

rich field
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is it best to learn with people or is bots fine

prime ore
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It's not even close

rich field
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thanks

burnt inlet
topaz anvil
patent mulch
normal granite
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My loadout for everything beyond R2D2 was just hel autopistol, scattergun, c foam, and knife

prime ore
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You take a weapon that does almost no damage and then you have a weapon that instakills with low ammo

normal granite
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I didnt look at wiki or guides until after i finished the game lol

frail heart
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Scattergun has pretty good ammo

normal granite
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Ya

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Better than choke mod it feels

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Funny thing about me taking scatter

I was always host...

prime ore
prime ore
normal granite
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Who cares about balance

Its a big ass shotgun

prime ore
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It was just not fun cuz I felt like even my fucking loadout carries me

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Picking 1 weapon can detriment the game cuz how op it is

normal granite
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Well i played through everything with 2 bots

So we had to carry the bots

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3 bots if you count my friend

prime ore
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Nothing is worse than a bot

prime ore
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I had to use scatter to make it way less annoying

normal granite
prime ore
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Ohh truee

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Moth yeah he does count as a bot

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I thought like one of your IRL friends bruh

normal granite
ripe hamlet
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moth catching strays

median glacier
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are there updated resources on how stealth works, been a hot minute and I only remember bits and pieces. like something something, within 10 meters if you kill a striker and another guy nearby is lit up he wakes up, but if you kill him the room goes back to sleep?

normal granite
normal granite
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I think the range can be more than 10 metres, since ive had some absolutely nutty long range aggros

median glacier
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yea yesterday i killed a guy and some shooter in the back of the room woke up and i have no idea how it happened

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anyway i tried looking up resources like speedruns online to see the pinnacle of how its played and they are straight up running around just smacking shit and im like we are playing different games šŸ’€

normal granite
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Haha yeah

Once you realise how the enemies work you go zoom

prime ore
prime ore
median glacier
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oh like throbbing

prime ore
normal granite
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Whenever i play with some newbie friends, they always yell "HOW DID THAT NOT WAKE UP

ripe hamlet
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thats all you need most of the time

prime ore
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If they don't know how the game works then they will be shocked

normal granite
prime ore
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Smth like R5C2

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In the last room

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They shot both feelers and not at the same time

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And still did not proc

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Cuz I did not knew you could shoot while door is opening and it won't wake up shit until it's fully open

median glacier
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whats the best recovery method when one wakes up and there are others nearby, should i just crouch walk up to it and take the hit and swing or should i just walk away and go loud?
because everytime i uncrouch and walk up to a woken up enemy the whole room lights up anyways but remaining crouched feels very slow especially if its a shooter and it gets like 2 shots off

normal granite
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My brother was watching me for my recent R8E2 runs and reckons he could do it without anyone else XD

prime ore
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Best strat is everyone pulls back

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Close le door and mine it

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It will wipe all the swarms and damage higher hp enemies

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Giants hybrids and giant shooters

median glacier
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i mean like if 1 striker/shooter wakes up but hasn't called the room yet

normal granite
ripe hamlet
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id rather take a hit and kill if the room is too scary to wake

median glacier
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mmmm ok

ripe hamlet
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most of the time you can walk and jump to beat them up without taking a hit anyway

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if you need to take a hit they might be too far and scream still

keen seal
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with experience you will get a feel for how salvageable an unexpected enemy wakeup is

normal granite
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Probably worth going into a level like R1A1 or R1B1 and practicing

keen seal
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most of the times it's just "oh that guy woke up let me go smash their skull in"

ripe hamlet
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if the room is going to wake no matter what id rather shoot the biggest threat before they wake

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usually a scout

normal granite
normal granite
prime ore
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Spear is good except it cannot clutch shit and most of the times you'll wake up the room

normal granite
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Just dont use spear

prime ore
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Spear is more of a careful gameplay and most use 1

prime ore
ripe hamlet
prime ore
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Like killing a scout right under you cuz of your insane reach

median glacier
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i used knife and r1b1 gave me a rude awakening with all the damn big bois in there

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wish i had brought hammer

prime ore
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But on average hammer is best for everything

ripe hamlet
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just do alarm doors

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ezclap

median glacier
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haha

normal granite
prime ore
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Decent on smalls and decent on Dr thunks

ripe hamlet
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if you want to know how to truly fast stealth and train your decision making skill

normal granite
ripe hamlet
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just drop into e2

prime ore
normal granite
prime ore
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I didn't get run over but holy shit the 180 on that guy is fast asf

prime ore
normal granite
ripe hamlet
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ive been testing a bit with e2 duo and its been very fun ngl

prime ore
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You can basically sweep the hardest mission atp

ripe hamlet
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im not that good chat

prime ore
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While me and 3 more idiots which we all together have at most 10 braincells cannot beat secondary R4E1

ripe hamlet
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i could pull my weight with full squad but im not sweeping e tier duo

prime ore
ripe hamlet
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solo code hunt is kinda sus if you dont know the mission well

prime ore
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2 dudes do reactor

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While me and Holo hopefully don't get clapped while doing reactor

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Cuz basically if both code hunters dies it's gg

prime ore
ripe hamlet
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just go slow

prime ore
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There's just too many enemies and scouts

prime ore
ripe hamlet
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you have bio its almost guaranteed to be safe

prime ore
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If you take 20 minutes there will be like 30 waves and will fuck your defences

prime ore
ripe hamlet
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reactor wave is chill

frail heart
prime ore
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You can shoot 2 at best which is what we do

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So we don't get fucked and increase constistency

frail heart
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What guns do you take into reactor

prime ore
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Carbine burst cannon me

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Sawed off prec rifle holo

ripe hamlet
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pr šŸ„€

prime ore
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Yeah ik it's a fucked build cuz we don't run scatter

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But like I am always the host so there is least amount of chance for game to shit itself

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And Holo doesn't know how to use it

ripe hamlet
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you just aim in the general area of the enemy and shoot

hard nexus
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gtfo is best game ever made

ripe hamlet
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at least use hel rifle

prime ore
frail heart
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No scatter on r4e1 šŸ„€

prime ore
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Cuz it's a special and gets way more ammo

ripe hamlet
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how did you reach e tier without knowing ammo economy

frail heart
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Also you can’t learn how to use a weapon without actually using it

ripe hamlet
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^

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take it for a spin a few times and youll learn how to use scatter

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its like one of the easiest gun to use

prime ore
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Cuz it's dogshit on swarms unless you get 2 kills

ripe hamlet
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the only thing to worry is that youll overuse it

prime ore
ripe hamlet
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scatter host isnt that bad

prime ore
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So I cannot kill tanks unless it's like 4 shots that all hit

median glacier
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the long range aggro chance thing explains so much

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no wonder shit is waking up in the back of the room i didn't realize it was chance based and that it was that far

burnt inlet
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Hybrid from wave kills you? Blame it on long ranged aggro

prime ore
tiny wyvern
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Slowly you'll blame all your mistakes on long range aggro

median glacier
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lol

uneven kiln
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also blame it on metallic sleepers

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(occasionally)

prime ore
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So true

tiny wyvern
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And weird scout hitboxes

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Bonus points if you were looking for a back hit and you just weren't back enough

tardy ingot
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at that point just blame desync

tardy ingot
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(and yes even if its weird, even host has desynced before)

median glacier
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i wanna learn how to do that fast stealth stuff, seems really cool, im assuming you just take advantage of the time it actually takes sleepers to wake up

prime ore
# frail heart Why not swap then

Cuz burst cannon does nice with fat fucks like tanks and hybrids, it can also deal with swarm and that blood door and it has range so I can kill a scout in a fucked room if Holo has a brain fart and not shoot it

tardy ingot
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in general if its just 1 enemy (and they arent super close to others aka like 4 meters or so) you can just charge and walk

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over

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and over

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and over

prime ore
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Mostly cuz of that

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But scatter is better pick

frail heart
tiny wyvern
prime ore
frail heart
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Range is it’s only downside

median glacier
frail heart
prime ore
tardy ingot
tiny wyvern
uneven kiln
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Bots can randomly negate enemy screams too since screams don't make any noise unless it targets a human player

I've actually wondered if there is any speedrun trio + a bot that negates a scream would be ideal in some 100% category run

tardy ingot
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its less about first timing things

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and more about general awareness and situations

tiny wyvern
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Yeah true

tardy ingot
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the only shocker could be hidden bosses

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or i guess shadow giants lol

prime ore
median glacier
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so wait im assuming dealing with and mitigating a butterfly effect from long range aggro is case by case, so like in the video if the long range aggro did occur on lets say this guy:

would it just be better to pull back and setup turrets or shoot, cause crouch walking into a guy thats aggroed with 4 other sleepers around him trying to melee him is just gonna fail like 90% of the time

tardy ingot
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but everything else you can notice (scouts) or just deal with

tardy ingot
prime ore
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Just like R4C2 incident where my friend meeled a thing right next to a mother

tardy ingot
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when you dontk now about them

prime ore
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And hasn't seen her

tardy ingot
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can be mean
but fun

prime ore
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I totally forgot there is a fucked mother room with a scout and that exactly happened

prime ore
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Atleast we got the scout so

prime ore
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Like maybe 3 meters from target

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And mother just goes lock tf in mode and instantly starts spawning babies

uneven kiln
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yah thats a fast wake

tardy ingot
uneven kiln
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slow wake vs fast wake moment

prime ore
uneven kiln
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LRA, walking triggering aggro, and flashlights triggering aggro are the only slow wake sources I think?

tardy ingot
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spear teaches beginners wrong things

uneven kiln
tardy ingot
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idrc about r1a1

but seeing people on r2d2/e1 crouch only

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makes me sad af

uneven kiln
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I mean I can understand it for Z600

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but nowhere else really

crystal furnace
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Does anyone know if theres a website that automatically filters the passwords?

Instead of sorting them by letter on the wiki.
https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Passwords

Official GTFO Wiki

Passwords are a gameplay mechanic which either forward the main mission objective or unlock a terminal.

uneven kiln
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i forgot this wiki page existed

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what sort options are you looking for

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I can likely find time to update this

crystal furnace
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i quickly whipped up a tool to that do that automatically, was wondering if its worth refining it and publishing it

uneven kiln
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most people I know just rainbow table it and go down the list

tardy ingot
tiny wyvern
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Note: Brute forcing passwords is a strat, however it is highly not recommended to brute force it, especially with only one word of the four word password

tardy ingot
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in base game you typically dont need to guess rly (and if you do its for lulz)

in speeds its done in r6bx, r8b3 and r5a3

tiny wyvern
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You'll be here all night...

tardy ingot
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often less

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far less

tardy ingot
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r8b3 grind was funny

crystal furnace
tardy ingot
# uneven kiln R7D2 glitched by chance?

you get 100% of the password in that level

so you either get it or you find a way to somehow glitch into the ending room with 1 person (or get back out to extract)

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cant full guess passwords in speeds (with 0 letters found)

tiny wyvern
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@uneven kiln Are you willing to make it more readable?

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šŸ™‚

uneven kiln
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I think the page could do with a "By Letter" section expanding sections I guess?

tardy ingot
tiny wyvern
civic wave
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like sure it's BiS but are you really doing much anyway

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burst is a lot more casually good, and likely better for code searching because of the range (minus blood door)

crystal furnace
crystal furnace
hoary mason
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It is already shared. both on speed server and on src forums of game

frail heart
civic wave
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trying to remember, was there an individual tool/website for it in the past

tardy ingot
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its linked on the official speedrun discord if you want to check

(which is linked on this discord #hc-other message )

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or there

crystal furnace
civic wave
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because i feel like i recall there was, separate from the logger

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but i am known to be crazy

tardy ingot
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i know kenny had a spreadsheet for it

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with some setup for it

uneven kiln
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give me a tight code hunt that requires a long gibberish password so there's no guessing it, it's just random garbage like 5;[~!i}M and then I get that during a bingo run

tardy ingot
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on the reminder of bingo

goat, hope your wrist/hand is doing better d4rkevPat

civic wave
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eh not really, needs more rest but i don't really have anything to rest it with

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should go to the pharmacy and look for a compress

prime ore
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1 code but it's like 20 letters long

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And you go to terminals and get like few letters

civic wave
#

ah there is a pharmacy i could get to tonight and have a look, really ought to have done it yesterday but i forgot

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but i also have other pain going on right now which like sob

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my body hates me

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@tardy ingot why bonk

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if you knew what happened tomorrow you would cut me some slack

tardy ingot
#

i know whats gonna happen tmrw for me

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and im not feeling relaxed for it at all rn

civic wave
#

a man must build a fortress to defend

tardy ingot
#

having to defend my thesis in front of multiple professors is rough

mystic rock
prime ore
mystic rock
#

literally all codes possible in the game and you can filter with the letters you already have

hoary mason
#

for split code hunts

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reactors like don't rly matter cause they give immediately full code

prime ore
#

This just fucks R4E1 lol

hoary mason
tardy ingot
#

no?

mystic rock
#

no it doesn't ?

tardy ingot
#

stev...

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man

hoary mason
#

Wtf you on about

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Brother

tardy ingot
#

"which letters you already have"

this doesnt give you the code immediatly

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you need to gather parts

all reactors have full passwords

there is only a handful of levels with split passwords. 2 of them with 4 way splits (and both are free to get basically anyway)

prime ore
#

I am sick sorry I can't think right

hoary mason
mystic rock
#

carbon monoxide is spreading

prime ore
mystic rock
#

brain functions are stopping

prime ore
agile field
hoary mason
prime ore
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R4E1 does not need that many scitzo enemies

hoary mason
agile field
mystic rock
#

what schizo enemies are in r4e1

hoary mason
mystic rock
#

what is a schizo enemy

uneven kiln
mystic rock
#

damn

prime ore
hoary mason
#

Fair

prime ore
#

Cuz that is lit what they are

hoary mason
#

Teammates are the schizo friends we made along the way

agile field
hoary mason
#

or enemies

hoary mason
#

your pick

prime ore
# hoary mason or enemies

R2E1 shadow enemies made me check every single corner of the room every time before walking inside a room

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Cuz like they could spawn literally anywhere

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And easily ignore them

hoary mason
#

Just use your ears and bio??!?!?

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They still make sounds lmao

prime ore
#

And that's the reason why I won the shitty mission

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And stuck in R4E1 purgatory

mystic rock
#

did you beat it yet

hoary mason
#

Idk when you doing r4e1 with Sec you have more than enough res to shoot up every single shadow room on path to extract.

prime ore
#

It's not le scitzo enemies outside reactor

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It's ones in reactor and just reactor itself

civic wave
prime ore
#

It's undoubtivelly hardest part of the mission

civic wave
#

falling is scary

vernal marsh
#

we just need to do reactor faster that’s it

#

we do know the layout alr

prime ore
#

It's hard to do it fast

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When you have to be always careful to not wake up shit

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There is always either feelers or the fucked 4 mother room

mystic rock
#

you really don't need to do it fast

ripe hamlet
#

split code reactor code hunt would be cool

prime ore
ripe hamlet
#

in case solo code hunt isnt already hard enough

prime ore
#

But our pb to 6th code was like maybe 12

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And done it in 2 mins

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Just shooting the feeler and clearing the rooms

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But we got fucked at the end cuz we didn't play carefully

mystic rock
#

defender can last for like 30 minutes

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it's really fine

uneven kiln
prime ore
#

exactly

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How we lost

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Lit just me doing it because I thought the last code needs code 5

mystic rock
#

I wouldn't say that's why you lost really

prime ore
mystic rock
#

code 6 is holdable solo it's not terrible terrible

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no no it was the fact that sky never had a time to refill sentries

prime ore
mystic rock
#

because goat was going back

prime ore
#

We have a skull issue sometimes

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And we don't run scatter

ripe hamlet
#

only sometimes?

mystic rock
#

scatter for what

ripe hamlet
mystic rock
#

it's not like mandatory on this level

prime ore
#

So sometimes one thing goes wrong and kills a really good run

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Exact thing on our best run

ripe hamlet
#

scatter isnt the play for holding reactor

prime ore
#

Allowing you to just walk throught everything except the 4 mother room

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Which is always an instant loss if woken up

mystic rock
#

not true

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you can recover from quad mom if you know what to do

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also the fact that host's game lags a lot helps

ripe hamlet
#

most other good guns also clear rooms easily

prime ore
# mystic rock not true

Playing at 20 frames is not fun at all and when it always happened we get like insta team wiped by the first wave cuz it's like 80 enemies that come out of no where

prime ore
ripe hamlet
#

just get that one bug where you get 8 moms

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become invincible

mystic rock
#

oh didn't read that message thanks frosty

prime ore
#

I thought we had bad rng

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By getting worst mother placements ever

mystic rock
#

coming back to that message it was about the fact that goat was going to plug late so you could be at door and not waste a second

ripe hamlet
#

i think frosty got a vid on it

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it was glorious

tiny wyvern
#

Oh for whatever reason you can get double the amount of moms

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I think for that run it was desync?

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Or just weird PC jank

prime ore
#

One run

civic wave
prime ore
#

A mother right on the door to that room

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Then both mothers on 2 paths you have to take

mystic rock
prime ore
#

And then another one right next to the terminal at the end of the room

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If that run wasn't fucked from the beginning idfk

civic wave
#

another problem was, well, the reactor up to that point and the fact that i couldn't eat my pizza

frail heart
#

Hel rifle is by far the best for solo hold

prime ore
#

We got like 4/6 on that cuz they ofc woke up

civic wave
#

3 giants 2 hybrids from blood door went to reactor sob i watched myself die bringing pizza to my desk

ripe hamlet
#

is there any reactor where hel rifle isnt the best for solo hold

frail heart
#

Btw there’s ways you can play reactor with like no chance of moms waking up

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Moms waking up is a skill issue

civic wave
#

in ways i do feel like hel rifle is way overrepresented and we deserve more hel gun

prime ore
frail heart
#

For specifically third wave

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It’s much better on first 2

prime ore
#

The run where I had with goat raging on me had lit 0 mothers on the right side

prime ore
#

Allowing you to lit hold shift without waking up anything

ripe hamlet
#

fair

civic wave
#

sprint path woah

prime ore
#

Most of the times mother places would be either right on top of the doors which is insane

frail heart
#

Hel rifle is quite hard to play on third wave just because of shadow giants

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They don’t die quick enough

prime ore
#

Or on the two only pathways for the end of the room

mystic rock
#

just run triple scatter on client and kill that mom room fr

ripe hamlet
#

fr

ripe hamlet
#

the fast reload feels good tho

civic wave
#

hel gun is demonstrably cooler

prime ore
#

Bring 3 nuke guns and just 1 shot them all

mystic rock
#

yes!

frail heart
#

I’m ass at it now

prime ore
#

A good weapon

#

But hel rifle is literally just an upgrade to it

hoary mason
civic wave
#

i'm out of practice with it too

#

but then again i've not played too much recently

frail heart
#

Hel rifle is easier to use

prime ore
#

It doesn't need headshots to 1 shot smalls so it makes it way easier to line up enemies and has a very good scope

civic wave
#

least not with hel gun

prime ore
civic wave
#

we need beth to come back so we have a hel gun player

mystic rock
#

eh I'd use hel gun if it was the original one

#

the chargeup just feels sluggish now

prime ore
#

Wow nice game

#

Prob one of the worse rifles getting a nerf that's insane

mystic rock
#

what

civic wave
#

original charge up time in og r3 was 0.2
then in og r5 it was 0.1
stayed 0.1 in og r6
then uh i can't remember when it was changed

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but they buffed the ammo with r8!

keen seal
#

stev stop tweaking

civic wave
#

(plus faster reload in og r6)

fathom ice
#

ill be the hel gun player šŸ˜Ž

mystic rock
#

I also wish har's recoil stayed the same as on r6

#

it was a nice laser gun basically

civic wave
#

oh yeah i mean it was really fun, hel gun went from 0.2 -> 0.1 -> 0.2 -> 0.3 -> 0.2 across time didn't it

#

or was it 0.1 -> 0.3 -> 0.2

prime ore
#

How do use that when you need to double tap or even triple for chsrgers

hoary mason
#

charge up is only for initial shot

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follow ups don't need it

mystic rock
#

huh

hoary mason
#

unless you take too long

prime ore
#

Hel gun has like giga stagger right

#

Then with giga stagger yeah you are right

mystic rock
#

default stagger

fathom ice
mystic rock
#

so just the normal damage of stagger

prime ore
civic wave
#

the follow up shots still require the charge up?? it's just diminished because of the time taken for the bullet to fire and internal cooldown

prime ore
#

Shit

keen seal
#

we need a mute in here

mystic rock
prime ore
ripe hamlet
#

why is stev saying hel gun is shit

keen seal
#

because bro is a PUB

ripe hamlet
#

its the best wave clear into small

civic wave
#

everyone has forgotten about hel gun

mystic rock
#

depends on the scenario though

civic wave
#

it's just hel rifle hel rifle hel rifle

frail heart
ripe hamlet
#

can oneshot if needed and easily shift to hold pen line

civic wave
#

waiting for jesus christ to come again

frail heart
#

Hel gun is literally 3rd best special

mystic rock
#

like shotgun and revo can definitely do some stuff better than hel gun can

#

it's just a proactive gun basically

prime ore
frail heart
#

Wrong

prime ore
#

Especially on chargers cuz hel gun takes 3 and rifle only 1

mystic rock
#

no hel gun does have it's uses

uneven kiln
#

What am i reading

frail heart
#

3 on chargers bro

mystic rock
#

it takes 2 but ok

civic wave
#

are we making someone into sleepyboi2

prime ore
#

Maybe w back damage it's 2

mystic rock
#

fall damage

civic wave
#

what's 30/16.25

hoary mason
#

you can also solo charger scout from hel gun so it's just a personal preference at this point for him. 4 man content from base game does not give any situations for hel gun to realistically outshine.

agile field
mystic rock
#

otherwise they're not gonna say 2

hoary mason
ripe hamlet
mystic rock
ripe hamlet
#

unless you shoot it like at sniper range

#

even without back dmg mul

#

hel gun does 16 dmg

prime ore
# ripe hamlet its 2

Most of the times chargers do this like bounce when staggered so it makes for free 2x dmg

frail heart
#

Hel guns upsides are it’s easier to spam and also has better uptime

frail heart
#

It’s also more efficient into smalls usually

prime ore
mystic rock
#

it is based on their internal angle

#

not the animation

#

you're never getting a back multi on a charger with hel gun from a front shot

prime ore
#

It always feels like

mystic rock
#

you won't stagger it out of the animation at the right moment to have his back turned to you on third shot

prime ore
#

1 shot he does the funny bounce

#

Turns around and I just shoot him again and finish him off

frail heart
#

Yes that’s because it has 30 hp

#

Brother

mystic rock
#

do you have stagger sync or are you modless

frail heart
#

The wiki is free

civic wave
#

you certainly can get back damage on big chargers when they pirouette, if nothing else

frail heart
#

^

civic wave
#

don't bring back heavysmggate

mystic rock
#

yeah but they can be staggered out of their animation

#

like you're not staggering a charger out of his animation with hel gun

#

unless you are so far you hit some funky fall off

prime ore
#

We always do some funky strats so it's maybe even this

mystic rock
#

you'd have to be like 70 meters away from him to hit that kind of fall off

prime ore
#

Like 30+

mystic rock
#

basically 30 yeah

mystic rock
#

bit more for error math reasons

frail heart
#

30

#

Stev

#

Chargers die in 2 shots

mystic rock
#

actually does hel rifle get the .1 extra

frail heart
#

From hel gun

civic wave
frail heart
#

I think

prime ore
frail heart
#

Then why are you still going

frail heart
#

The answer is the second shot killed

prime ore
mystic rock
#

.01 treatment my bad g

frail heart
#

My brain is peepoDumb

prime ore
prime ore
mystic rock
#

either way they learned something about animations on stagger

prime ore
#

I won't move from my bed for like a week from this

prime ore
mystic rock
#

it's really important to know how stagger works and how back multi is affected by it if you want to solo melee a giant without it screaming for example

#

or to time the pirouette of the charger giant for more damage for free

timber shoal
#

giant solo melee 🤤

prime ore
#

Because he is so dangerous to meele

mystic rock
#

never said a giant charger

#

for meleeing

#

just a giant

prime ore
#

We always either ignored them if they aren't awoken and just sprayed them when woken

civic wave
#

nobody regularly melees giant chargers tbh

prime ore
ripe hamlet
#

melee bbc is crazy work

mystic rock
#

they're very funky to melee them

prime ore
#

Even I can do it solo with everything except knofe

mystic rock
#

I probably did it without them screaming like 3 times but then again I don't really try it

timber shoal
#

i can melee a bbc once :3 past that though he doesn’t seem to like it

mystic rock
#

crotch tech fr

prime ore
#

If you meele a charger giant you need like 4 ppl if you don't want him to scream

#

Cuz he is like mega fast

mystic rock
#

nah just 2 can be enough

timber shoal
#

nah you just get good

mystic rock
#

but you can triple back if you need him to stay put so a sync melee so he doesn't stagger far

civic wave
#

oh i deleted all my footage from that

#

oh well

timber shoal
#

surely bbc stealth solo knife kill is feasible and consistent

mystic rock
#

will never be consistent but feasible absolutely

prime ore
#

10 out of 10 game

mystic rock
#

it's just that baiting melee can be interrupted by them wanting to scream

raven copper
#

the throat goat technique

#

those who snow

timber shoal
#

oh right lmao

prime ore
mystic rock
#

math errors

prime ore
#

Like that 0.1 won't do jack shit

mystic rock
#

just floating point in games

civic wave
#

it's so the guns reliably kill the enemies and don't run into any errors

prime ore
prime ore
#

I wonder

civic wave
#

if the number was exactly 30, a charger could survive

ripe hamlet
#

so that game doesnt jank and leaves some random enemy with 0.0001 health

mystic rock
#

you'll never see it without mods but you can go to -0.00% hp if the math bugs out

raven copper
timber shoal
hardy grotto
#

you see it in modded sometimes if people don’t use the 0.01

raven copper
#

smh

mystic rock
#

I probably have a clip and some screenshots of me being alive at -0.00%

mystic rock
#

yes

frail heart
#

Ye

mystic rock
#

strikers can lick you at 12 exactly 12 and you still stay alive

hardy grotto
#

idr what modded rundown it was but there was one where a weapon had exactly 30 damage or smth

mystic rock
#

fyi iirc you have 25 hp in this game

mystic rock
#

it just gets 4x for percentage

hoary mason
civic wave
#

the difference is hel gun is COOL

civic wave
#

and hel rifle is PUB

hoary mason
#

Exactly

prime ore
mystic rock
#

why are you so against it

prime ore
#

It looks sick asf but hel rifle does the exact same job better but looks worse

timber shoal
#

hel gun slander is wild

#

stev i’m exploding you with my mind

mystic rock
#

hel gun absolutely can save you more than hel rifle ever will in close quarter

civic wave
#

hel gun is much more nimble

raven copper
#

he isn't a snower its okay

prime ore
civic wave
#

imagine you have 14 enemies on top of you

uneven kiln
#

if nothing else the hel gun is way better at killing Flyers than hel rifle

civic wave
#

which gun do you pick

prime ore
#

I feel like hel gun should be more of a main weapon

#

It just feels like that

timber shoal
#

😭 😭 😭

hoary mason
civic wave
#

you're probably brainrotted from using the gun wrong ngl

mystic rock
raven copper
#

now let's talk about the real best weapon double tap rifle

prime ore
hoary mason
#

it's just regular shooting with hel gun

#

bro

frail heart
#

😭 😭

ripe hamlet
prime ore
ripe hamlet
#

its crazy

prime ore
#

Nice auto correct okay Gboard

frail heart
#

I’m actually getting sleepyboi flashbacks

timber shoal
uneven kiln
#

A really good place I like to take hel gun is R6D2 secondary

timber shoal
ripe hamlet
#

that flyer alarm is ass no matter what you take

timber shoal
#

that level would be an interesting duo

ripe hamlet
#

but hel gun does make life a little more interesting

prime ore
fathom ice
#

u cancel flyer

#

with deactivate alarm

ripe hamlet
raven copper
#

jus kite the flyers ez

timber shoal
#

hmm

raven copper
#

:]

ripe hamlet
#

i tried that without it and class 5 cluster is too much

frail heart
#

The error isn’t that dangerous

#

They spawn quite slow

ripe hamlet
#

the error itself is free

#

the class 5 is where things got bad

frail heart
#

Yeah the class 5 is fucked

uneven kiln
#

Regardless of what you cancel with deactivate alarms the hel gun is still really nice for that corrupted uplink

hardy grotto
timber shoal
#

i fuckin love corruptlinks

frail heart
#

I wish revo had pen

raven copper
#

humble r5c3

civic wave
uneven kiln
#

I wish revo did 15 dmg

raven copper
#

revo should have pen

civic wave
raven copper
#

rweally

timber shoal
#

revo should have pen

frail heart
#

Sam don’t nerf a high pick rate weapon challenge impossible

vernal marsh
raven copper
vernal marsh
#

or hel revo if you like cowboys that much

timber shoal
civic wave
vernal marsh
raven copper
#

trio??

timber shoal
#

i’m down

#

i haven’t like

#

eaten anything today though so imma do that

raven copper
#

getting my hair did rn

civic wave
#

that sounds nice

#

i'm still grappling with whether or not to dye

timber shoal
raven copper
#

gotta look beautiful an shit yk

raven copper
vernal marsh
#

beating*

timber shoal
#

but we can run with sniff

raven copper
#

guys should I jus play mute double tap an giga carry

timber shoal
#

double tap into chargers 🤤 🤤 🤤

ripe hamlet
#

thats wild

raven copper
#

that be so vet core of me

ripe hamlet
#

if its true duo thatd be understandable

vernal marsh
mystic rock
#

fair

#

4th wave is basically second hardest

ripe hamlet
#

one bio two sniper sentries and youre in good shape

raven copper
ripe hamlet
#

yeah 4th is a bottleneck

timber shoal
#

someone did not

ripe hamlet
#

then its 6th

vernal marsh
raven copper
#

lying

timber shoal
#

😭 😭 😭 😭

#

anyway

#

with double hel rifle we have that shit down holo

ripe hamlet
#

hel rifle or bc

#

and hold behind the car

#

ez pen line

vernal marsh
#

Surelllyyyy

raven copper
#

the car hold is always the best strat

frail heart
#

In which level

mystic rock
#

r5b1

ripe hamlet
#

r5b1 ovl

timber shoal
frail heart
#

What is car

raven copper
#

I have 0 idea

frail heart
#

Do you not hold big door?

timber shoal
#

we got a solid way through the wave even with only one hel rifle

mystic rock
#

left side first thing I'd imagine

raven copper
#

I dont remember b1 at all xd