#gtfo-related-questions
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yea klust feels kinda like head honcho
bring me my model 8
!!
get me the HEL weapon
well theres
hel rifle
hel gun
hel auto pistol
hel revolver
hel shotgun
all distinct 
hel sentry
Where is my drekker gun
id say the only two that are close enough to overlap are gun and rifle
slot the foam launcher
permafoaming š„°
i would also advise you use the deactivate alarms command at the end of that error to cancel flyer alarm in sec but that's a bit cheesy
ig you could also use it to deactivate charger fog alarm at beginning of mission (or both)
we took bio and sentry so that fog alarm is easy
but without sentry the flyer alarm is going to be sus
the flyer alarm will suck regardless of tools and guns
true
Hey guys, any suggestions for such an awesome situation
can u drop to the bottom?
well as a last resouce*
idk if theres floor on that tile but if there isnt
u should tp back to the top
otherwise if parkour doesnt work maybs downing them and pickking back up puts em in place?
i seen it happen when inside the floor or behind some objects
if no free thyself thrn might be ggs
Unfortunately we couldn't revive them through the railing + invisible wall and there was floor at the bottom
As if R7E1 isn't hard enough
if thats teleport area could leave, teleport then join back
Nah that's reactor
Ah well, time to give r5e1 another go
if you play modded get free thyself mod to unstick yourself from shit like that
so, friend of mine is new to the game, still hasn't gotten the die together achievement no matter how many times he's wiped
known issue? it'll be pretty funny if he gets everything but this one
You need to have 4 players (not bots) in the lobby and all die to get it
definitely met this criteria, we play as a 4 stack
Amy mods?
nope ruled that out with vanilla client runs
its bizarre!!
at this point he needs to stick with the game, getting everything but this one would be funny
bizarre stuff
team
does killing kraken in e2 run a deactivate_alarms
we forgot admin and got nightmare error triggered during kraken. but pulled through and killed kraken, and then we didn't get any more nightmares
i will take a look at the datablocks
thats what im lookin at
Yeah it does
can i place collectibles back into lockers?
nop
you can replace items already in a locker, which keeps the slot in the locker, but if you pick it up without carrying something that goes in the same slot the placement in the locker/box is gone forever
if you're playing r1c1 don't bother, you get more time between waves later on and have ample time to go back and grab anything you need
is R8A2 main decently doable with bots
yes
the only difficulty in r8a2 is the class 5, and secondary
first alarm right?
yeah
felt that tbh
gtfo gets buggy with more people
desync issues?
but afaik its just create a lobby and send codes like usual
yep
well that that i can agree since my asia lobby dont work well with german servers.
Have everyone take a sentry and place them at the same time and tell me what happens
Ngl I donāt think thatās the fault of the mod
The lobby expander mod is quite stable now
Way more than it was before
It is pretty good
its a fault of GTFO being well
yanno
Donāt place like more than.4 turrets
but it can be stable
it can
Badly
Impact performance
Does the fifth turret rupture space time or smth
yes
Yeah
You get the room unloading sometimes
Or flashlight unable to turn on
Or off
or sound bug moments
Probs correct
Extra sentries just kill room forever at some point
I think it is likely that there is a total number of non enemies objects that can be loaded in a single room and if you go to far over the assumption limit you get issues
I get void bug so much because the game doesnāt account for the amount of ass I have
Well unless your ass is made up of many objects or have many objects entering it. Then it shouldnāt void
The latter
whats a good loadout for bots main and special weapons
Any burst main sec only burst cannon
Ah ok, thanks
They love to use burst weapons more and they are mostly better cuz they can burst cancel
So it makes the game way less frustrating
What mission you doing btw
It's way better to just find ppl rather than doing with bots
i just started with a buddy so just R1, been a while since we played so we just started all the way over
Praying for your success
You guys got tips on reliably dealing with rooms with like multiple big bois and small bois mixed in?
can't reliably stealth all of them especially when theres like 2 big bois next to each other, its either i kill all the smalls and aggro the big guys to shoot them or killing one of the smalls wakes up the bigs and i have to shoot anyway
Go loud :3
R1B1 guessing?
are u duos?
Question about scout behavior does alerting a scout spawn enemies 2 rooms away from its location or the player's (Assuming you shoot it from a different room)?
the players ii believe
So it gets a bit funky but short version is players, though the spawn mechanics chooses one specific player and spawns it 2 rooms away from them so itās not based on all players
yea duos
yea š good guess
Just shoot those zones (also bring two bots !!!!)
usually for those situations of 2 bigs or more yeah pulling is good, put down defenses and shoot with ur biggest dmg gun
but u shhould learn to melee bigs that are alone
^
Ah ok
yea someone said bring burst guns so i just gave the bots a carbine and burst rifle and two MG klusts and called it a day
is it the player who alerted it or is it just a rand statement?
Pretty sure itās random per enemy spawning and not just entire wave
Had runs die due to scout wave being split spawns before
that works pretty well
on duos bots tend to friendly fire more, so more dmg guns end up on taking dmg
I never encountered that before.
Does anyone know if there is 10chambers employes in this server,I asked something on gheir contact email,but got no response.If there is any,can I post a screenshot of the email here plus ask some other question to them?
Dm the community manager
thank you ^w^
dm this guy specifically
thanks ^w^
Smol

anyone knows why I can't drop down?
are you the lobby's host?
nope
I exit the expedition to change guns
then could not rejoin
even after game restart
gotcha
yeah its probably not your fault at this point
š thank you
Did you retire to lobby by any chance before this? I've had this issue occur on vanilla after doing that, relaunch fixes it
say i shoot a scout and miss its head (hits its body) is it invincible while its blue
yee
you have a tiny window of time immediately afterwards, rapid shooting to stop the scream is a thing i believe, but once they're blue you are fucked usually
thereās a 0.25-0.5 second (delay is randomized) gap between the scout being triggered (tendrils retracted, gun fired, etc) before it becomes invulnerable
okay so if i want to kill it the optimal time to do it is when the tentacles are as far out as possible?
does tendril length matter for retraction time?? I thought it was fixed
could be completely wrong tho
itās fixed
though if you touch a tendril as itās already retracting and it returns to the scout before 1 second has passed, it wonāt scream
optimal time to do it is when you feel you have the shot/melee and preferably you aren't going to wake anything that you can't deal with
though thatās another thing entirely
knife or spear
also sawed off shotgun, choke mod shotgun, regular shotgun, scattergun, hel rifle, sniper, precision rifle, and hi caliber pistol all one shot scouts to the head
assuming youāre close enough
also hel gun, revolver and slug shotgun kill with a shot to the back of the head
probably forgetting some
and more
yeppers
dont take sniper for scouts specifically
its massive overkill
i donāt play with full auto weapons tbh but i assume quite a few can kill scouts if you mag dump their occi
bullpup ik
lowkey i think the HEL revolver and regular shotgun are a good idea cause i usually have one
short rifle is another hehehe
precision rifle i use sometimes so thats good too
both very solid choices
im so ass at knifing tho so i gotta get better at that
prec rifle is a lil more situational but generally not a bad pick
yeah practice will be key there
it pmo cause i have a group of friends but two of them dont want to play often cause its "mentally draining"
tragic
but as much as i want to play with others i dont want to spoil it :/
many such cases though
ah was mostly thinking about more 1 shot options
oh yeah them too
like slug shotgun
im slowly waiting for them to give up so i can play with someone from this server
did i not say slug shotgun could kill from occi š„ŗ
or wait can it kill as is
with a regular head shot
oh damn alr
maybe a stupid question but how do i know which way the scout is facing
i was unaware of slug shottyās game
limbs
its body is the most reliable way to tell imo
they tend to arch their head back when they have their tentacles out
also from what way they've been walking
for scout kills? not a bad idea
there are scout kill playground mods but even in vanilla there shouuuld be levels that start with them
but you'll get the hang of it dw
not sure if anyone mentioned it but hammer and spear need to hit the head and knife and bat need to hit the back of the head
for melee breakpoints
full charges ofc
no
nope
shit
you'll get fucked if you go in completely alone
if your group are cool with you lfg'ing outside of your sessions just do that imo
whats lfging...
iām so fullā¦
.t lfg
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My belly just keeps expanding
ykw i might
ill hide activity and whatnot
lol
if they have a problem they shouldve played with me more
gonna have to send me some proof there
Check stfu
is anyone able to hop on in a bit to teach me some stuff or should i do that in lfg
No bro you gotta work for it
huge
is it best to learn with people or is bots fine
thanks
Gooon niiight :333
Pub night
That is the loadout I used for 98% of my clears so yes
My loadout for everything beyond R2D2 was just hel autopistol, scattergun, c foam, and knife
Weird ass loadout
You take a weapon that does almost no damage and then you have a weapon that instakills with low ammo
I didnt look at wiki or guides until after i finished the game lol
Scattergun has pretty good ammo
Ya
Better than choke mod it feels
Funny thing about me taking scatter
I was always host...
The only thing I needed to pull a guide for is that 1 low quality R4E1 blood door strat and R2E1 full clear strat
I fuck with choke mod more ,it looks kinda cooler and it's way more balanced
Who cares about balance
Its a big ass shotgun
It was just not fun cuz I felt like even my fucking loadout carries me
Picking 1 weapon can detriment the game cuz how op it is
Well i played through everything with 2 bots
So we had to carry the bots
3 bots if you count my friend
That's too low bro
Nothing is worse than a bot
Yeah same when I played with 3 bots cuz I was sick and no1 played
I had to use scatter to make it way less annoying
Moth is, trust
Moth takes fall damage, bots dont
Ohh truee
Moth yeah he does count as a bot
I thought like one of your IRL friends bruh
I did meam my irl friend lol
But i was joking about him
Moth is really a bot sometimes tho
moth catching strays
Based
are there updated resources on how stealth works, been a hot minute and I only remember bits and pieces. like something something, within 10 meters if you kill a striker and another guy nearby is lit up he wakes up, but if you kill him the room goes back to sleep?
Hes gonna catch these fists soon
Correct
I think the range can be more than 10 metres, since ive had some absolutely nutty long range aggros
yea yesterday i killed a guy and some shooter in the back of the room woke up and i have no idea how it happened
anyway i tried looking up resources like speedruns online to see the pinnacle of how its played and they are straight up running around just smacking shit and im like we are playing different games š
Haha yeah
Once you realise how the enemies work you go zoom
If they are like locked in and you kill a thing in the room it will almost always wake up
I did learn this but I never use knife so
oh like throbbing
Yup
watch eva stealth guide
Whenever i play with some newbie friends, they always yell "HOW DID THAT NOT WAKE UP
thats all you need most of the time
What did you expect
If they don't know how the game works then they will be shocked
You can do it without knife even
Hammer is quite good for hordes too
Smth like R5C2
In the last room
They shot both feelers and not at the same time
And still did not proc
Cuz I did not knew you could shoot while door is opening and it won't wake up shit until it's fully open
whats the best recovery method when one wakes up and there are others nearby, should i just crouch walk up to it and take the hit and swing or should i just walk away and go loud?
because everytime i uncrouch and walk up to a woken up enemy the whole room lights up anyways but remaining crouched feels very slow especially if its a shooter and it gets like 2 shots off
My brother was watching me for my recent R8E2 runs and reckons he could do it without anyone else XD
If shit wakes up
Best strat is everyone pulls back
Close le door and mine it
It will wipe all the swarms and damage higher hp enemies
Giants hybrids and giant shooters
depends
i mean like if 1 striker/shooter wakes up but hasn't called the room yet
If you can, try walk towards it without waking stuff up
If 2 enemies wake up, just back out and go loud (or even just start meleeing everything)
If there is a scout in the room, try and get a headshot on it before something screams and wakes it up
id rather take a hit and kill if the room is too scary to wake
mmmm ok
most of the time you can walk and jump to beat them up without taking a hit anyway
if you need to take a hit they might be too far and scream still
with experience you will get a feel for how salvageable an unexpected enemy wakeup is
Probably worth going into a level like R1A1 or R1B1 and practicing
most of the times it's just "oh that guy woke up let me go smash their skull in"
if the room is going to wake no matter what id rather shoot the biggest threat before they wake
usually a scout
Me who pierces there skull with a knife
Scouts and giants in early game yeah
And not use spear for clutch moments
Spear is good except it cannot clutch shit and most of the times you'll wake up the room
Just dont use spear
Spear is more of a careful gameplay and most use 1
It's fun to play around with it cuz of insane range and it's kinda funny
unless youre client scatter i dont think trying to kill a miniboss is worth the risk
Like killing a scout right under you cuz of your insane reach
i used knife and r1b1 gave me a rude awakening with all the damn big bois in there
wish i had brought hammer
Knife is prob best meele just to speed up the game
But on average hammer is best for everything
haha
I mean getting a free shot in before a tank turns around or a mother births
if you want to know how to truly fast stealth and train your decision making skill
You will learn my ways eventually
I take down giants solo with knife lol
When we played like R5C2 I didn't know there was like a tank room in code hunting so they just started shooting and I just see a fucking huge enemy approach me
"just drop into e2"
I didn't get run over but holy shit the 180 on that guy is fast asf
Yeah let me drop in R8E2 with 1 level finished btw
Thats why the free shot when stealthing is nice
ive been testing a bit with e2 duo and its been very fun ngl
Yeah but you like have how many hours
You can basically sweep the hardest mission atp
im not that good chat
While me and 3 more idiots which we all together have at most 10 braincells cannot beat secondary R4E1
i could pull my weight with full squad but im not sweeping e tier duo
what kind of strats
2 for 2
solo code hunt is kinda sus if you dont know the mission well
2 dudes do reactor
While me and Holo hopefully don't get clapped while doing reactor
Cuz basically if both code hunters dies it's gg
No way in hell am I doing solo hunt lol
just go slow
There's just too many enemies and scouts
How to go slow in this mission bruh
you have bio its almost guaranteed to be safe
If you take 20 minutes there will be like 30 waves and will fuck your defences
We run 2 bios 1 code hunt me and other does reactor
reactor wave is chill
Bro said too many scouts
There is 4 you have to do in under 15 minutes and not including literally everything else inside the mission
You can shoot 2 at best which is what we do
So we don't get fucked and increase constistency
What guns do you take into reactor
pr š„
Yeah ik it's a fucked build cuz we don't run scatter
But like I am always the host so there is least amount of chance for game to shit itself
And Holo doesn't know how to use it
you just aim in the general area of the enemy and shoot
gtfo is best game ever made
at least use hel rifle
No it's because he doesn't know how ammo effic works and like always overflows and keeps for giants
No scatter on r4e1 š„
Cuz it's a special and gets way more ammo
how did you reach e tier without knowing ammo economy
Also you canāt learn how to use a weapon without actually using it
^
take it for a spin a few times and youll learn how to use scatter
its like one of the easiest gun to use
No it's just for scatter
Cuz it's dogshit on swarms unless you get 2 kills
the only thing to worry is that youll overuse it
I used it a couple of times I do know how to use it but I am the host
scatter host isnt that bad
So I cannot kill tanks unless it's like 4 shots that all hit
this is up to date
the long range aggro chance thing explains so much
no wonder shit is waking up in the back of the room i didn't realize it was chance based and that it was that far
Hybrid from wave kills you? Blame it on long ranged aggro
It's kinda ass sometimes because it's a chance and somehow you'll not wake up the room and sometimes wake up a omega fucked room
Slowly you'll blame all your mistakes on long range aggro
lol
So true
And weird scout hitboxes
Bonus points if you were looking for a back hit and you just weren't back enough
at that point just blame desync
Why not swap then
(and yes even if its weird, even host has desynced before)
i wanna learn how to do that fast stealth stuff, seems really cool, im assuming you just take advantage of the time it actually takes sleepers to wake up
Cuz burst cannon does nice with fat fucks like tanks and hybrids, it can also deal with swarm and that blood door and it has range so I can kill a scout in a fucked room if Holo has a brain fart and not shoot it
in general if its just 1 enemy (and they arent super close to others aka like 4 meters or so) you can just charge and walk
over
and over
and over
Scatter does all of that stuff btw
Aren't you playing solo?
You don't really have that luxury
Except range
Range is itās only downside
Im playin with a buddy and 2 bots
You can very easily fast stealth solo
Mostly yeah but you should play with other people because if there are 4 ppl who can stealth kill you can pretty much meele everything except bosses
the segment where I fast stealth in the guide is solo so idk why you wouldnt be able to
Even when you're first timing things?
Bots can randomly negate enemy screams too since screams don't make any noise unless it targets a human player
I've actually wondered if there is any speedrun trio + a bot that negates a scream would be ideal in some 100% category run
Yeah true
Hidden bosses are something in this game
so wait im assuming dealing with and mitigating a butterfly effect from long range aggro is case by case, so like in the video if the long range aggro did occur on lets say this guy:
would it just be better to pull back and setup turrets or shoot, cause crouch walking into a guy thats aggroed with 4 other sleepers around him trying to melee him is just gonna fail like 90% of the time
but everything else you can notice (scouts) or just deal with
bosses in stealth
Just like R4C2 incident where my friend meeled a thing right next to a mother
when you dontk now about them
And hasn't seen her
can be mean
but fun
Exactly what happened
I totally forgot there is a fucked mother room with a scout and that exactly happened
prox aggro?
Atleast we got the scout so
Yup
Like maybe 3 meters from target
And mother just goes lock tf in mode and instantly starts spawning babies
yah thats a fast wake
depends on your feeling
for just 4 guys even alone, you can walk up
if nice nothing wakes and you gucci
if smth wakes you can kill that
if all wakes you can kill then run past them to dodge and kill 3 enemies easy
if this was a mega stacked room that I was fine with waking id just run out and mine a door or smth
slow wake vs fast wake moment
Spear is nice to use to learn how the game works and realize hey I can lit just walk and meele sometimes
LRA, walking triggering aggro, and flashlights triggering aggro are the only slow wake sources I think?
no
spear teaches beginners wrong things
I'm gonna teach beginners to crouch only R1A1
Does anyone know if theres a website that automatically filters the passwords?
Instead of sorting them by letter on the wiki.
https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Passwords
Passwords are a gameplay mechanic which either forward the main mission objective or unlock a terminal.
i forgot this wiki page existed
what sort options are you looking for
I can likely find time to update this
i quickly whipped up a tool to that do that automatically, was wondering if its worth refining it and publishing it
most people I know just rainbow table it and go down the list
logger has that part built in
1 why?
2 there isnt rly a website, but a tool used in speedrunning has that option
Note: Brute forcing passwords is a strat, however it is highly not recommended to brute force it, especially with only one word of the four word password
in base game you typically dont need to guess rly (and if you do its for lulz)
in speeds its done in r6bx, r8b3 and r5a3
You'll be here all night...
nah 1 letter usually has at most 100 combos or so
often less
far less
R7D2 glitched by chance?
r8b3 grind was funny
- Mainly since the wiki is kind of a hassle when theres a giant list in front of you.
you get 100% of the password in that level
so you either get it or you find a way to somehow glitch into the ending room with 1 person (or get back out to extract)
cant full guess passwords in speeds (with 0 letters found)
I think all of us forgot that wiki page existed, which is the main reason it's a hassle
@uneven kiln Are you willing to make it more readable?
š
I think the page could do with a "By Letter" section expanding sections I guess?
mostly just goes back to why in the end
games doesnt rly have you guess off of 1 letter (or even 2)
but yea. there is a tool with it build in already 
What level are you brute forcing the password for anyways
ehhhhh you don't really need scatter
like sure it's BiS but are you really doing much anyway
burst is a lot more casually good, and likely better for code searching because of the range (minus blood door)
i mean none really, just the handful of levels that offer the parts of the password.
are you able to share that tool?
It is already shared. both on speed server and on src forums of game
trying to remember, was there an individual tool/website for it in the past
its linked on the official speedrun discord if you want to check
(which is linked on this discord #hc-other message )
or there
ty
because i feel like i recall there was, separate from the logger
but i am known to be crazy
give me a tight code hunt that requires a long gibberish password so there's no guessing it, it's just random garbage like 5;[~!i}M and then I get that during a bingo run
on the reminder of bingo
goat, hope your wrist/hand is doing better 
Imagine you have to find like
eh not really, needs more rest but i don't really have anything to rest it with
should go to the pharmacy and look for a compress
ah there is a pharmacy i could get to tonight and have a look, really ought to have done it yesterday but i forgot
but i also have other pain going on right now which like 
my body hates me
@tardy ingot why bonk
if you knew what happened tomorrow you would cut me some slack
a man must build a fortress to defend
having to defend my thesis in front of multiple professors is rough
late but here if you're still searching https://gtfo.takina.io/code/
This is for like reactors?
literally all codes possible in the game and you can filter with the letters you already have
for split code hunts
reactors like don't rly matter cause they give immediately full code
This feels like cheating
This just fucks R4E1 lol

no?
no it doesn't ?
"which letters you already have"
this doesnt give you the code immediatly
you need to gather parts
all reactors have full passwords
there is only a handful of levels with split passwords. 2 of them with 4 way splits (and both are free to get basically anyway)
Ohh shi
I am sick sorry I can't think right
I see
carbon monoxide is spreading
I wish I had those for R4E1
brain functions are stopping
Reall
Thank you Burnice, I needed these
lmao wrong.
R4E1 does not need that many scitzo enemies
It just needs to have you in lobby apparently
Just more proof I need them if I mistook the character, lol
what schizo enemies are in r4e1
Like wrong game even
what is a schizo enemy
teammates
damn
I call shadows scitzo enemies
Fair
Cuz that is lit what they are
Teammates are the schizo friends we made along the way
Real and true
or enemies
Based take
your pick
R2E1 shadow enemies made me check every single corner of the room every time before walking inside a room
Cuz like they could spawn literally anywhere
And easily ignore them
That's exactly what I learned
And that's the reason why I won the shitty mission
And stuck in R4E1 purgatory
did you beat it yet
Idk when you doing r4e1 with Sec you have more than enough res to shoot up every single shadow room on path to extract.
Yeah that's exactly the point
It's not le scitzo enemies outside reactor
It's ones in reactor and just reactor itself
i did it
then on the stairs back up to my flat i lost attention while looking at the box, tripped and fell forward (at the top of some stairs against a wall, hand and knees sustained some damage)
It's undoubtivelly hardest part of the mission
falling is scary
R4E1 WHEN?!?!?! ( in other words please donāt die out of sickness and get better )
we just need to do reactor faster thatās it
we do know the layout alr
It's hard to do it fast
When you have to be always careful to not wake up shit
There is always either feelers or the fucked 4 mother room
you really don't need to do it fast
split code reactor code hunt would be cool
If you go over the mark of 20 minutes the run is mostly fucked
in case solo code hunt isnt already hard enough
But our pb to 6th code was like maybe 12
And done it in 2 mins
Just shooting the feeler and clearing the rooms
But we got fucked at the end cuz we didn't play carefully
And thats
exactly
How we lost
Lit just me doing it because I thought the last code needs code 5
I wouldn't say that's why you lost really
We added like extra 4 hybrids which wiped us
code 6 is holdable solo it's not terrible terrible
no no it was the fact that sky never had a time to refill sentries
Yeah one problem
because goat was going back
only sometimes?
scatter for what

it's not like mandatory on this level
So sometimes one thing goes wrong and kills a really good run
Exact thing on our best run
scatter isnt the play for holding reactor
Not holding but literally insta killing all the code rooms
Allowing you to just walk throught everything except the 4 mother room
Which is always an instant loss if woken up
not true
you can recover from quad mom if you know what to do
also the fact that host's game lags a lot helps
most other good guns also clear rooms easily
Playing at 20 frames is not fun at all and when it always happened we get like insta team wiped by the first wave cuz it's like 80 enemies that come out of no where
I do host 99% of the times
It does zlawg
oh didn't read that message thanks frosty
The fuck that's a thing?
I thought we had bad rng
By getting worst mother placements ever
coming back to that message it was about the fact that goat was going to plug late so you could be at door and not waste a second
Oh for whatever reason you can get double the amount of moms
I think for that run it was desync?
Or just weird PC jank
One run
yeah, no-one was at code 6 so we could do another cycle of code 5 which is easier
doable on a solo hold but yeah not on ammo
And then another one right next to the terminal at the end of the room
If that run wasn't fucked from the beginning idfk
another problem was, well, the reactor up to that point and the fact that i couldn't eat my pizza
Hel rifle is by far the best for solo hold
We got like 4/6 on that cuz they ofc woke up
3 giants 2 hybrids from blood door went to reactor
i watched myself die bringing pizza to my desk
is there any reactor where hel rifle isnt the best for solo hold
Btw thereās ways you can play reactor with like no chance of moms waking up
Moms waking up is a skill issue
in ways i do feel like hel rifle is way overrepresented and we deserve more hel gun
True but it's also fucked cuz rng can make the run either ultra free or infinetly worse
The run where I had with goat raging on me had lit 0 mothers on the right side
Not really
Allowing you to lit hold shift without waking up anything
fair
sprint path woah
That never happened to my OG team
Most of the times mother places would be either right on top of the doors which is insane
Hel rifle is quite hard to play on third wave just because of shadow giants
They donāt die quick enough
Or on the two only pathways for the end of the room
just run triple scatter on client and kill that mom room fr
fr
yeees more hel gun
been getting back to hel gun but its way harder to play it well like the rifle
the fast reload feels good tho
hel gun is demonstrably cooler
Surely that's how that part was meant to be dealt with
Bring 3 nuke guns and just 1 shot them all
yes!
I havenāt played hel gun in so long
Iām ass at it now
Hel gun is like
A good weapon
But hel rifle is literally just an upgrade to it

Hel rifle is easier to use
It doesn't need headshots to 1 shot smalls so it makes it way easier to line up enemies and has a very good scope
least not with hel gun
Hel gun actually takes skill to play while hel rifle and scatter are just instant nuke weapons
we need beth to come back so we have a hel gun player
Hel gun got nerfed
Wow nice game
Prob one of the worse rifles getting a nerf that's insane
what
original charge up time in og r3 was 0.2
then in og r5 it was 0.1
stayed 0.1 in og r6
then uh i can't remember when it was changed
but they buffed the ammo with r8!
stev stop tweaking
(plus faster reload in og r6)
ill be the hel gun player š
oh yeah i mean it was really fun, hel gun went from 0.2 -> 0.1 -> 0.2 -> 0.3 -> 0.2 across time didn't it
or was it 0.1 -> 0.3 -> 0.2
0.3 charge up holy shit
How do use that when you need to double tap or even triple for chsrgers
You just do that
charge up is only for initial shot
follow ups don't need it
huh
unless you take too long
default stagger
?????
so just the normal damage of stagger
That's kinda shut
the follow up shots still require the charge up?? it's just diminished because of the time taken for the bullet to fire and internal cooldown
Shit
we need a mute in here
yeah but it hits the striker's stagger hp and it's just gonna limb break anyway so whatever
ah fair the internal cd

why is stev saying hel gun is shit
because bro is a PUB
its the best wave clear into small
everyone has forgotten about hel gun
depends on the scenario though
it's just hel rifle hel rifle hel rifle
What is blud saying
can oneshot if needed and easily shift to hold pen line
waiting for jesus christ to come again
Hel gun is literally 3rd best special
like shotgun and revo can definitely do some stuff better than hel gun can
it's just a proactive gun basically
It's not bad but hel rifle does lit everything better and there is 0 reasons to run it
Wrong
Especially on chargers cuz hel gun takes 3 and rifle only 1
no hel gun does have it's uses
What am i reading
3 on chargers bro
it takes 2 but ok
are we making someone into sleepyboi2
When I used it , it took 3 idk if I am scitzo or not
Maybe w back damage it's 2
fall damage
what's 30/16.25
you can also solo charger scout from hel gun so it's just a personal preference at this point for him. 4 man content from base game does not give any situations for hel gun to realistically outshine.
Unrelated, but peak profile note
my b misremebered some modding shit
its 2
which one there's like 5 different things xd
unless you shoot it like at sniper range
even without back dmg mul
hel gun does 16 dmg
Most of the times chargers do this like bounce when staggered so it makes for free 2x dmg
Hel guns upsides are itās easier to spam and also has better uptime
not true
Itās also more efficient into smalls usually
That's prob why cuz I use it as a longe range weapon loll
it is based on their internal angle
not the animation
you're never getting a back multi on a charger with hel gun from a front shot
you won't stagger it out of the animation at the right moment to have his back turned to you on third shot
1 shot he does the funny bounce
Turns around and I just shoot him again and finish him off
do you have stagger sync or are you modless
The wiki is free
you certainly can get back damage on big chargers when they pirouette, if nothing else
^
don't bring back heavysmggate
yeah but they can be staggered out of their animation
like you're not staggering a charger out of his animation with hel gun
unless you are so far you hit some funky fall off
It wouldn't suprise me if this was the answer
We always do some funky strats so it's maybe even this
you'd have to be like 70 meters away from him to hit that kind of fall off
How much does hel rifle have dmg
Like 30+
basically 30 yeah
Then no idk lol
Nice game
bit more for error math reasons
actually does hel rifle get the .1 extra
From hel gun
every gun does really
I think
Yeah I found that out already
Then why are you still going
I could use this
The answer is the second shot killed
Asking for hel rifle now
.01 treatment my bad g
My brain is 
It's fine g
Yeah I am also melting dww
either way they learned something about animations on stagger
I won't move from my bed for like a week from this
This game is so funky sometimes
it's really important to know how stagger works and how back multi is affected by it if you want to solo melee a giant without it screaming for example
or to time the pirouette of the charger giant for more damage for free
giant solo melee š¤¤
I have never meeled a giant charger
Because he is so dangerous to meele
We always either ignored them if they aren't awoken and just sprayed them when woken
nobody regularly melees giant chargers tbh
Normal giants yeah
melee bbc is crazy work
they're very funky to melee them
Even I can do it solo with everything except knofe
I probably did it without them screaming like 3 times but then again I don't really try it
i can melee a bbc once :3 past that though he doesnāt seem to like it
crotch tech fr
If you meele a charger giant you need like 4 ppl if you don't want him to scream
Cuz he is like mega fast
nah just 2 can be enough
nah you just get good
but you can triple back if you need him to stay put so a sync melee so he doesn't stagger far
surely bbc stealth solo knife kill is feasible and consistent
will never be consistent but feasible absolutely
10 out of 10 game
it's just that baiting melee can be interrupted by them wanting to scream
ive seen it
the throat goat technique
those who snow
oh right lmao
Why do they do this btw does this even affect a single weapon inside the game
math errors
Like that 0.1 won't do jack shit
just floating point in games
it's so the guns reliably kill the enemies and don't run into any errors
Oh I see
if the number was exactly 30, a charger could survive
so that game doesnt jank and leaves some random enemy with 0.0001 health
you'll never see it without mods but you can go to -0.00% hp if the math bugs out
you arent a snower
exactly what it sounds like lmao
you see it in modded sometimes if people donāt use the 0.01
smh
I probably have a clip and some screenshots of me being alive at -0.00%
Includes players too?
yes
Ye
strikers can lick you at 12 exactly 12 and you still stay alive
idr what modded rundown it was but there was one where a weapon had exactly 30 damage or smth
fyi iirc you have 25 hp in this game
Nice game
it just gets 4x for percentage
just duo r4e1 Sec to see the diff between hel rifle and hel gun 
the difference is hel gun is COOL
Surely I could achieve that
and hel rifle is PUB
Exactly
That's the only thing why you should use this weapon
why are you so against it
It looks sick asf but hel rifle does the exact same job better but looks worse
hel gun absolutely can save you more than hel rifle ever will in close quarter
hel gun is much more nimble
he isn't a snower its okay
Cuz every time I used hel gun I'd fuck the run and would prob make the run far easier if I just swapped to another rifle right next to it
imagine you have 14 enemies on top of you
if nothing else the hel gun is way better at killing Flyers than hel rifle
which gun do you pick
š š š
sawed off 
you're probably brainrotted from using the gun wrong ngl
probably should say hel gun or hel rifle but my mind instantly went for revo or shotgun xd
now let's talk about the real best weapon double tap rifle
This is a pretty sick ass clip
This is not a weapon issue Stev
š š
if you backread a bit youll see how much of a pub he is
Idk are they not supposed to be used the same they are both rifles idk
its crazy
Nice auto correct okay Gboard
Iām actually getting sleepyboi flashbacks
iām more than aware
A really good place I like to take hel gun is R6D2 
the ever so humble flier alarm
that flyer alarm is ass no matter what you take
that level would be an interesting duo
but hel gun does make life a little more interesting
It's hell
foam is mandatory if youre going to do the alarm cancel
jus kite the flyers ez
hmm
:]
i tried that without it and class 5 cluster is too much
Yeah the class 5 is fucked
Regardless of what you cancel with deactivate alarms the hel gun is still really nice for that corrupted uplink
Hel gun is more like a revolver with pen than hel rifle tbh
i fuckin love corruptlinks
I wish revo had pen
humble r5c3
it does, it's called hel gun
I wish revo did 15 dmg
revo should have pen
it does, it's called hel gun
rweally
revo should have pen
Sam donāt nerf a high pick rate weapon challenge impossible
js use Hel gun š
thats what im saying
or hel revo if you like cowboys that much
b1 duos š„ŗ š„ŗ š„ŗ
sniper will have a magazine of two and you WILL be happy
wait that wasn't sam
kai
getting my hair did rn
sniff boutta be pretty as hell
gotta look beautiful an shit yk
thhhaaaattttsss what im saaaaayin
double hel rifle we have it tbh
but we can run with sniff
guys should I jus play mute double tap an giga carry
double tap into chargers 𤤠𤤠š¤¤
that be so vet core of me
if its true duo thatd be understandable
We died on 4th wave
one bio two sniper sentries and youre in good shape
obviously someone didn't teach you the methodš¤«
yeah 4th is a bottleneck
someone did not
then its 6th
what method
lying
the car hold is always the best strat
In which level
r5b1
r5b1 ovl
iām not lying zlawg
What is car
I have 0 idea
Do you not hold big door?
we got a solid way through the wave even with only one hel rifle
left side first thing I'd imagine
I dont remember b1 at all xd
