#gtfo-related-questions

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tiny wyvern
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Getting stuck

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yada yada

timber shoal
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yeppers

tiny wyvern
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Ye you can lock the slot

timber shoal
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lock the slots

regal tree
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ohhhh

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im still going with them

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two meat shields

tiny wyvern
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Don't worry, unless you're somewhat decent bots are still better than nothing

burnt inlet
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@regal tree idk if this was said already but put bots on biotracker

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:3

regal tree
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yea

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gonna do that

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and give them sniperrifles and revolvers

final terrace
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Bot on bio tracker is actual advice

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the one they get is just straight up better

burnt inlet
final terrace
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yeah

ripe hamlet
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join the true duo gang

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the faster you do the more you get to game out

woeful dust
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ok what does an hsu look like cause i'm doing r1b2 with bots rn and i have been in the right zone searching for the hsu i need for thirty minutes

gray rapidsBOT
timber shoal
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there you go

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:3

woeful dust
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thank you

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well i found an hsu but its the wrong one 😂 do you know if i can make the bots ping it for me in the terminal so i can find it myself?

rapid warren
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i gotchu

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make sure to run thsi command

START THREAT_LEVEL_M.EXE

timber shoal
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nooooooooooooo

rapid warren
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i also got stuck on that level but this command saved me

timber shoal
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do not

rapid warren
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yes not

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i have a maximum of 3hrs in this game

woeful dust
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I FOUND IT OML

timber shoal
woeful dust
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aaaaaand we all died going back to the extraction 😭

timber shoal
woeful dust
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but thank yall for your help lmao, i was like 50m away so i'll call that a draw given how long it took me lmao

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especially given my cat was actively trying to sabatoge me for a solid 10 min 😂

timber shoal
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hope you get it next time 🙏

ripe hamlet
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ah yes

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r1b2 extract

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the first rite of passage

proud socket
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Is there a meta weapon loadouts for bots?

tiny wyvern
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Define meta

grizzled patrol
proud socket
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Like which weapons work best on bots in general situations?
Doesnt have to be level specific

tiny wyvern
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Bots have weapons you really don't want them to have, but there isn't really a top pick when it comes to it

proud socket
tiny wyvern
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Just don't give them shotguns

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Hel weapons are fine if you don't mind being shot a couple times

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They're really efficient with burst weapons

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Autos were bad on players, so mostly the same for bots

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Outside of that, remembering that they don't really know what falloff means and that they've got decent accuracy, you can pretty much build them into whatever you want them to be

proud socket
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Yeah I use Carbine & Veruta on bots usually.

grizzled patrol
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@low radish

tiny wyvern
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You can give them burst cannon if you can tolerate the friendly fire

tardy ingot
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Burst cannon gives them the absolute best killing power
(Veruta is a knock off thats better if you as the player only want them to contribute but not spam out there ammo)

tiny wyvern
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Don't they friendly fire you with that thing really badly if you happen to be standing there

tardy ingot
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  1. yes the risk is there, if they actually friendly fire youll tank dmg
  2. bot friendly fire is so incredibly overstated its crazy actually
tiny wyvern
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fair enough

grizzled patrol
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Bots friendly fire is a Problem only If you Play into it

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If you dont Charge headfirst with a melee or stand in Front of them it really is miniscule

regal tree
grizzled patrol
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They treat it as If it Has No Fall Off monkaStare

tiny wyvern
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They snipe with shotguns

regal tree
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God

tiny wyvern
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Normally for other games it's fine

regal tree
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Well damn

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9-9

tiny wyvern
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Not for this one

regal tree
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Sniper rifles and two tap it si

final terrace
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i also wouldnt give them snipers

wet bear
final terrace
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bots are good with burst cannons

thick stump
final terrace
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since the main drawback of the burst cannon is that you always have to shoot 3 bullets, despite a single bullet one hitting a small

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bots can just only shoot one bullet

tiny wyvern
wet bear
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Bots also ignore weapons charging sometimes leading to full auto hel rifle or other stuff

grizzled patrol
low radish
safe cradle
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I dislike the narrative that getting BC'ed by a bot is somehow always the player's fault

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I still give them BC nearly always, mainly because giving them Veruta in maps where I need them to shoot (R2D2 for example or other reactors or chargers-heavy maps) is way too much underwhelming

burnt inlet
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I honestly don’t see a lot of friendly fire in my lobbies with bots, not saying it isn’t there but I rarely hear my teammates complain about it

tardy ingot
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<@&408548765599793173>

woeful ocean
final terrace
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what is this, the 5th time?

woeful ocean
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More like 500th FrogNote

old mountain
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Today or in general?

final terrace
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maybe we need that auto ban channel

old mountain
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Very unfortunate gaming indeed

woeful ocean
final terrace
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you can't be serious

woeful ocean
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woaaaa!! no way

final terrace
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@old mountain come back

ashen frigate
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...

woeful ocean
final terrace
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I can feel an NTTS video coming with how many people are being affected by this lol

old mountain
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Up*

final terrace
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Cho was first

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like 5 seconds after you banned the guy another one posted it again

old mountain
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0ohhh

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i c

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thank u ch0 yippy

tardy ingot
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autoban channel looking better by the day 👀

ashen frigate
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like a channel that would ban you if you type anything in it ?

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The thing is, we keep track of all the bans, so people can appeal when they recover their account (if they want to come back here)
So this would have to be done properly

final terrace
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could have the automod in charge of it DM them, saying what happened and who to message if they wanna appeal, when someone writes in it

tardy ingot
regal tree
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Also what "hel" weapons are for?

final terrace
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wdym

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HEL weapons all have overpenetration

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and some have a chargeup

regal tree
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Oh

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Soo horde weapons

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Right?

thick stump
regal tree
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Not sure if meta exists in this game

thick stump
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so yeah, meta exist

regal tree
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That's a skill issue

thick stump
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do R2E1 and tell me this against xD

regal tree
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Bet

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Gotta get there first

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Cuz i'm still on R1B2

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Gotta do it today with my friend

thick stump
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believe me, A are the easiest missions and E the hardest and you gonna see a very big difference

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B missions are still easy

tardy ingot
regal tree
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Well then i ain't using it

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I'm gonna have fun with my PDW

fathom ice
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don't worry you can clear anything with anything

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it's just harder / easier

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u get it

regal tree
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What weapons have thermal?

final terrace
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PDW and Precision Rifle

thick stump
regal tree
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Dang

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Oh well

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I'm try out EVERYTHING!

reef rock
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have fun :D

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try everything

thick stump
regal tree
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I love chokemod shotgun

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It just stuck to me

thick stump
regal tree
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Still can delete around 30 of sleepers

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Cuz one shot one kill most of the time

frail heart
regal tree
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Doesn't really feel like it

fathom ice
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now u have sawed off

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dot dot dot

thick stump
tardy ingot
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its reload is not good enough for the mag size (or vice versa)

tardy ingot
thick stump
thick stump
tardy ingot
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its kill amount is absolutely fine tbh

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its the same as shotgun and only 1 less than high cal

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it gets more kills than sawed off

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(tho obviously thats a main)

safe cradle
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It's like other guns argument, game has too few problems and far too many "solutions", so some solutions end up being just better in most, if not all, cases.

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I dont think choke is BAD and I'm sure I'm not alone with that. Would I rather take something else? Yes.

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Actually, you made me think of a poll.

tardy ingot
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choke is heavily role crept basically

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its probably just sliiiightly sub par if you removed the broken options (in terms of balance)
giving it a faster reload would solve that basically

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But Hel rifle/gun are far better charger and wave clear
scattergun (and burst cannon) are far better boss and giant clear
High cal functions better as a snappy anti small clear

choke mod is also still outclassed by sniper (and burst cannon) for hybrid clear

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for an all rounder shotgun generally outvalues it (not into flyers/chargers, but bosses/smalls and giants)

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if you remove any of those classes choke mod becomes "better"

safe cradle
tardy ingot
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more popular in what way

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most picked

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biggest flat increase

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biggest % increase

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increase for all players or vets?

reef rock
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arbalist please i love arbalist

safe cradle
tardy ingot
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so less popular and more better

safe cradle
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Like I think it'd make HAR into a viable pick for maps where you need wave-clear-ish and is shadow heavy or has bad visibility and you cant abuse long corridors

safe cradle
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suppose this

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"Which one would benefit the most"

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I admit I didnt phrase that very well

tardy ingot
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I think the full autos dont really benefit from this that much tbh

so its likely just choke mod for specials

for mains its more interesting. I do think DTR could benefit a bit into shadows

safe cradle
tardy ingot
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eh big shadows are realistically just body shot aimed

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and they have a long bio ping

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thermals is mostly for dark environments, semi fog bosses and shadows

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(also shadow scouts)

safe cradle
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it'd still be way comfier 😄

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it also offers range

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Perhaps a good train of thought would be which roles/situations do PDW and PR NOT cover good enough

tardy ingot
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gotta remember

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thermals do have a downside

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you dont see projectiles

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which actually kinda hurts choke mod

safe cradle
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I mean you aren't gonna spend even remotely as long down the sights as PR

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But I see your point

tardy ingot
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the weapon that benefits the most is easily sniper btw

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even if it also doesnt wanna be aimpunched

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but its a massive improvement into shadow type enemies for it (as it headshots) and also vs bad vision

frail heart
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sniper with thermals would go so hard

regal tree
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Tho you could snipe sleepers from diffrent zone

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Funny

tardy ingot
regal tree
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O

safe cradle
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I can clear the last code zone in R4E1 by just being super far with PR

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it feels like cheating

fathom ice
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yes you can do equally by having a BIO tracker

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but like you know

ripe hamlet
safe cradle
fathom ice
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yes they won't with bio either

safe cradle
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But I'd have to either quick-swap from thermal to something or guess where their head are...

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Why is ALL this hate for PR?

reef rock
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paid actors by the HEL company

safe cradle
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No I mean, it's certanly sub par

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but in R4E1 I'll say its good

fathom ice
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bio is just better into code 6

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AND into shadow zone too cuz pr struggles with fog i think

keen seal
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it do

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not shadows tho

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actually I'm not a 100% sure but thermal sees shadows fine in thick fog but good luck seeing normal enemies

fathom ice
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well maybe

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it could be slightly worse / on par with bio i'd think

turbid horizon
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If someone’s confident enough to run PR as bio I’d trust

safe cradle
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🤷‍♂️ I think you're speaking from the pov of duoing R4E1, sky

keen seal
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pr pr patapim

fathom ice
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bio / lrf is just enough

safe cradle
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I speak from the pov of 3 people defending 1 with bio while I bang bang and get codes

fathom ice
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and you get to bring a better gun basically

safe cradle
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I get that it takes me 5 cycles when you take 2 or 3 or whatever

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but it's fine for my scenario

fathom ice
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no i mean

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it is FINE

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again u can clear anything with anything

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but imo bio > pr

tardy ingot
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tool vs gun

fathom ice
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correct

tardy ingot
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bio is more value absolutely though

fathom ice
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like yes comparison is wrong

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but you get it

tardy ingot
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PR is a pretty solid support pick for r4e1

though imo it suits the reactor side better since it lets you play without pings there

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LRF is unironically king though in shadow zones

keen seal
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here comes the sun

frail heart
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tru and i tested bioless duo r4e1 speeds lol

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with pr

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<@&408548765599793173>

patent mulch
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I hate how pr is forced to 3 shot chargers to kill them, otherwise it can be a very solid pick if you’re used to quickscoping imo

grizzled patrol
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Honestly, i feel Like the best Part about the PR is Always left Out, and that is how it is full Auto. Yes the recoil is a bitch and yes tweaker gameplay is Not so Common in GTFO, but If you have a Line of enemies comming towards you its possible to make a quicker Work of them compared to other guns Like High cal or Revo

final terrace
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my main peeve with the PR is the zoom - it's so ass close range if you don't hip fire

grizzled patrol
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Still, it is outclassed by BC and pen guns so its more of a Christmas wonderland

ripe hamlet
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yeah if you got a line youd want hel rifle stuff

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pr reload is just so long and its so ass into big

final terrace
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yeah the reload sucks too

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i do find it quite nice for mid to long range smalls though

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cause you can just kinda pop their heads one after another fairly quickly

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bit of an unneeded niche though

ripe hamlet
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its a good support weapon yeah

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i just only play duo and it just doesnt do enough for us to pick

surreal lark
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How do I kill Shrek? He's too op with 2 shits in his hands that replenish on use.

reef rock
surreal lark
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Just need to dodge the shits

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Hopefully I don't trip over a banana on the floor

patent mulch
civic wave
simple prairie
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So in the matchmaking it has tiers of difficulties, how does that work? like which is easy and which is hard because by default its A + B difficulty and i havent found anywhere in game that says whether or not that is easy or hard.

final terrace
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i havent used matchmaking but I assume it corresponds to the expedition tier

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A to E from easiest to hardest

civic wave
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matchmaking is a loose set of rules and often goes horribly wrong, it's recommended to lfg on discord instead because you can better curate your experience

final terrace
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but what if i wanna spin the wheel

burnt inlet
sudden nexus
frail heart
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Critical thinking

frail heart
burnt inlet
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me when i wonder why R5B3 with bots isnt fun

digital mural
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Because you suck

tacit trout
prime musk
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it doesn't matter

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you just stall out tanks until teamscan is done and go long and get elevation kill outside in worst case scenario

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but you can also just elevation kill on scan so

tacit trout
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Yeah no the levels not hard, its probably the easiest room in the game to deal with tanks

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It also feels like it forces you to make the fight easier with the fog down below

ripe hamlet
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imagine if its fully covered in fog

tacit trout
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B-tier I assure you

tacit trout
thick stump
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and to be honest, it is fun, sawed off shotgun and scattergun are not broken or anything xD

regal tree
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How many more missions are there that are similar to R1B2?

final terrace
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wdym

winter breach
regal tree
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Soo manygod damn keycards

winter breach
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Since like you have on average to get 1-2 keys

frail heart
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r6d3:

winter breach
safe cradle
grizzled patrol
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R5D1

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Get a Key to get a Key to get a key

thick stump
prime ore
regal tree
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9--9

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Bruh

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Aight

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Thanks

safe cradle
# safe cradle
poll_question_text

Which of the following weapons would become far more popular picks if they had Thermal (assume PDW's or PR's whichever you prefer).

victor_answer_votes

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total_votes

8

victor_answer_id

7

victor_answer_text

MAIN - Double Tap Rifle

burnt inlet
thick stump
uneven kiln
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R5B3 is a very disorienting and scary level

thick stump
uneven kiln
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Secondary used to be a lot harder in OG, too

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ALL side zones used to contain cocoons

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so if you left at all you would reset the entire objective

thick stump
uneven kiln
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only hybrids do now with an absurd amount of cocoons in there

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they just shoved them all in there

thick stump
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I haven't left the room, so I don't know, I tried to bruteforce everything, so not a single cocoon respawns

thick stump
uneven kiln
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nope just hybrids zone

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the cocoons in the hybrids zone are insane density

thick stump
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ohh, but it doesn't matter for me anymore, I could clear it without leaving the room anyways xD

burnt inlet
thick stump
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give it to one bot and he gonna follow you like a puppy

uneven kiln
burnt inlet
thick stump
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and the error alarm has big intervals I think

uneven kiln
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cause in speedrun you cant take turbine

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absurd cocoons density lol

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theres like 5 more directly above

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all for just a handful of hybrids

thick stump
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so you have 5 minutes to explore some rooms, with 6 chargers, sawed off shotgun and scattergun easy

regal tree
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What

uneven kiln
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uhh let me doublecheck that error real quick

regal tree
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w h a t

thick stump
uneven kiln
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I just updated R7C3 errors last night because they were all wrong

thick stump
uneven kiln
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I triple checked those errors including a pass through datablocks and adjusted timescale

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R7C3 uses a lot of SpawnDelays so the actual intervals are a bit off

thick stump
ripe hamlet
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r5b3 is scary?

thick stump
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but I am too 100% sure there was one

uneven kiln
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that happens specifically when the timer ends in main

ripe hamlet
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the entire lvl is pretty free i feel like

uneven kiln
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regardless of where you are

thick stump
ripe hamlet
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except maybe sec but thats cause i duo

uneven kiln
thick stump
ripe hamlet
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understandable

uneven kiln
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even the starting room of R5B3 has a lot of variance

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you can have 1-5 chargers to deal with lol

ripe hamlet
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it probably sucks doing the fog dive in speed

uneven kiln
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yep

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not to mention the endless alarm at the end

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when you already are scrambling to find res at all

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which is in infect fog usually

thick stump
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never speedrunned any level, I wanna stay sane

uneven kiln
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when you dont have turb

ripe hamlet
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yeah that final zone before extract kinda bs

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its huge and like two third of it is in fog

ripe hamlet
uneven kiln
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Oh that is interesting

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this error uses the same ID as the R7C3 one, 46

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160s between waves

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just a different population ID

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so yes wiki page is correct

burnt inlet
thick stump
burnt inlet
thick stump
zealous canopy
burnt inlet
burnt inlet
thick stump
burnt inlet
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I don’t remember

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50 49 is my guess

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Two different they can spawn in

zealous canopy
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Wait what's the question

thick stump
burnt inlet
burnt inlet
zealous canopy
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oh that's still going

burnt inlet
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Yep

thick stump
burnt inlet
ripe hamlet
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🥀

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moth in his self doubt phase

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wheres dodo when we need her

burnt inlet
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It’s average Swedish moment

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Rather think I’m worse than I am than become toxic vet 🥀

ripe hamlet
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real asf

thick stump
burnt inlet
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Noooo I’ll become toxic vet !!!!

ripe hamlet
burnt inlet
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Like this game is trash !!!!!!!

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You should refund !!!!!!

woeful ocean
uneven kiln
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self reminder to update the R8B4 wiki page

reef rock
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breathed in too much of the fog

burnt inlet
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I fogdive too much

reef rock
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do you think brain would be green

burnt inlet
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Yes

ripe hamlet
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instead of freaky appearance like sleeper he got freaky mind

burnt inlet
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Yes

timber shoal
ripe hamlet
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hi dodo

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moths spiralling

timber shoal
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i think the solution to all of this is to get moth medicated

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also get me medicated at the same time tbh, probably could use it

ripe hamlet
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nvm

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itd be more fun keeping you all unmedicated

timber shoal
reef rock
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take their meds

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and give it to me

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overmedicated peng

timber shoal
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realistically the only thing that me getting medicated would do is make me better at gtfo

ripe hamlet
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skill prog via doping

reef rock
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banned from gtfo speedrun leaderboards for performance enhancing drugs

timber shoal
prime musk
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listen boosterless (set seed) e2 solo is still up for grabs and it's all yours

reef rock
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i want to be medicated but unfortunately both japan and korea have the most draconian drug laws

prime musk
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i MIGHT but not anytime soon

ripe hamlet
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🥀

prime musk
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i have strats for it but it's really bad and like idk man i have a lot of other stuff to do

reef rock
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irl responsibilities vs gtfo

ripe hamlet
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other stuff?

reef rock
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😭

ripe hamlet
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non gtfo?

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shame

prime musk
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gtfo and non gtfo

ripe hamlet
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understandable

reef rock
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i need to finish a site by like week 3 november

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cooked

uneven kiln
timber shoal
burnt inlet
reef rock
burnt inlet
timber shoal
reef rock
burnt inlet
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Surely

timber shoal
burnt inlet
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😔

ripe hamlet
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made for each other

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❤️

burnt inlet
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True

timber shoal
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surely

burnt inlet
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The carry to my throw

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The hel to my rifle

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The pen to my lines

timber shoal
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so true bestie

burnt inlet
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Breastie*

uneven kiln
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the unmarked error to my door

timber shoal
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😭

timber shoal
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we’re gonna have to play r7c3 so i can see the unmarked error lmao

little pilot
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I WANTED TO SEND IT

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damn ufckin romanian cosplayer

burnt inlet
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Dont have no balls

burnt inlet
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😭

topaz python
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tips for R3D1? My squad and I are going to hop in this week and im very nervous!

burnt inlet
burnt inlet
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Run foam plus mines

timber shoal
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dont wake the tall men

burnt inlet
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And pluhhh the baby as soon as possible

timber shoal
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and be sure to look out once you stab the baby

burnt inlet
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Many surprises in the level

timber shoal
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also the flesh doesnt mean anything

thick stump
topaz python
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ok!

burnt inlet
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So called freethinkers when hel rifle scatter and sawed off exists

timber shoal
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use burst cannon :3

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i lub bursting

burnt inlet
reef rock
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arbalist

burnt inlet
timber shoal
thick stump
timber shoal
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autopiss/arbalist

burnt inlet
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Weak and pathetic and need a strong real hel rifle player to carry

burnt inlet
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True

ripe hamlet
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mod

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make that a sticker

reef rock
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the mg hate is unreal </3

burnt inlet
ripe hamlet
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yes

turbid horizon
frail heart
turbid horizon
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Veruta my beloved tho

reef rock
turbid horizon
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Legit all of R7 I ran Hel Shotgun/Veruta and it was waveclear heaven

digital mural
vital yarrow
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is there a list of all the secret terminal commands on the wiki anywhere?

timber shoal
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probably not but lemme check

tiny wyvern
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scaler made a video on it

timber shoal
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[[Terminal]]

gray rapidsBOT
tiny wyvern
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He lists it all there so just watch it there

timber shoal
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could probably make a wiki page on it though

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there’s no mention of their existence

remote plaza
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I didnt know light one until streamathon

tiny wyvern
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I mean... There's a reason why we don't talk about them much

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If at all

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Light test is one of the more tame ones tbh

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The days where people can grief lobbies with them may be relatively far away

vital yarrow
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someone once mentioned to me about a tank alarm command but i dont remember seeing that in scalers video

tiny wyvern
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(I think everyone that's around these days aside from the vets are from after the devs made it so the commands are host only)

tiny wyvern
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I don't think there is one

vital yarrow
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okay, thanks

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i wasnt sure

tiny wyvern
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@tardy ingot Is there a term command for tank error?

tiny wyvern
#

Being passed on as misinfo

final terrace
#

yeah that's probably the funny button

vital yarrow
#

no idea what that is but alrighty

tiny wyvern
#

Oh it's modded stuff

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Cconsole specifically

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Don't worry too much about it

final terrace
#

but the commands are
start light_testing.exe — Turns off all lights
start ventilation_override.exe — Raises the fog and makes it infectious
start threat_level_m.exe — Starts normal error alarm
start private_encryption.exe — Opens secret log "Internal_Log"
start rascal.exe — Starts error alarm that spawns 2 nightmare shooters and 3 baby nightmare strikers every 30? seconds
start ammo_quality_control.exe <MINIMUM|MAXIMUM> — MAXIMUM gets rid of all ammo, MINIMUM gets rid of main ammo
start spaghetti_&_meatballs.exe — Starts an error alarm that spawns 3 flyers every 30? seconds
start fried_chicken.exe — Starts an error alarm that spawns 2 special infectious hybrids every 2 or 3 minutes

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hm discord broke my formatting

civic wave
final terrace
#

thought it was only main when I tested it

civic wave
#

i'd need to check

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ok nvm it splits the difference

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minimum is main weapon only

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maximum is main + secondary + tool

austere granite
#

How do I join my friends lobby? Every time I try and join it just says "Waiting for master". then gets kicked

final terrace
#

try restarting both games

reef rock
#

experiencing this too rn

burnt inlet
#

Almost all servers are on high loads currently

austere granite
final terrace
#

dam, sounds like the servers are chuggin a bit

#

retry a little later I suppose?

burnt inlet
austere granite
timber shoal
#

happening to me sniff peng and tomas too 🥺

remote plaza
#

not me

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just you 3

burnt inlet
timber shoal
#

true

timber shoal
#

not being sarcastic or anything, legit question

burnt inlet
#

CM being the servers gtfo uses

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Opa just got hit every server high load 😭

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Team this is NOT looking good

remote plaza
#

i belive in the servers

burnt inlet
#

Surely this isnt another ddos

little shuttle
#

do we have an eta on when servers might be back?

digital mural
#

no

burnt inlet
#

They should all be back now tho

digital mural
burnt inlet
#

Frfr

little shuttle
burnt inlet
#

Maybe

remote plaza
#

servers might be kinda working

little shuttle
#

yall think a 10 minute block blast run will be enough time

frank estuary
#

Pierce 1

That... doesn't sound right. It doesn't behave like it has pierce and The Sheet™ doesn't say it has it either...

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It doesn't have pierce right?

timber shoal
#

its a strange quirk that it even has a value coded there though

tiny wyvern
#

Welcome to GTFO!

frank estuary
#

No other weapon has a listed value of pierce 1 lmao

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which is why it confused me

timber shoal
#

possible that at some point it was considered that it should have piercee

tiny wyvern
#

Yes that's why it's strikethroughed
As far as I know anyways

frank estuary
#

Nah strike through is just an aesthetic setting you can toggle for all pierce stat listings

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I noticed this because i discovered that the hikaria core my friend had sent me stealth buffed it with 2 pierce (probably in the japanese section I couldn't read) which, while it felt fantastic with that, I had no recollection of it ever having pierce and didn't want it altering the balance like that. (...though ngl i might have to remember the pierce choke mod for my own enjoyment on occasion)

Switched to Auri's version and the pierce went away as desired.

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Might go ask hc modded for my own curiosity later though.

grizzled patrol
tiny wyvern
#

is this just spagetti

frank estuary
#

thats bizarre

grizzled patrol
#

prbly devs have played around with choke having pierce, but at the end decided against it and dint bother changing the flag

frank estuary
#

Kinda wish it did actually have pc2, it felt so good before I removed it lol

sturdy glen
#

basically every gun feels good with pen because its a good mechanic

frank estuary
fathom ice
#

pubdown reference

frank estuary
#

Strong mechanics feel good?

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Nahhhh

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:^)

grizzled patrol
#

would make sense for HC weapons, kinda funny how most of the weapons are just loaded with peas and pebbles

tiny wyvern
#

Sounds like the most useless hel rifle/gun ever

ripe hamlet
#

Same dmg as hel rifle with no shot delay and more bullet

frank estuary
#

just shorter range

cerulean fjord
#

Anyone know the origin of the snatcher?

ripe hamlet
ocean spindle
#

theres like no lore kn that i think

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just ankther funk creature like the tank

long atlas
#

Is there a known glitch with bots(or players) where if you kick them and add them back in during a level, sometimes they'll just stay kicked forever until you restart the game? I assume this might just be "classic gtfo" things but I can't confirm what would cause this in my experience

ripe hamlet
#

what do you mean stay kicked forever

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they wont join back?

uneven kiln
#

but yes

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this is a thing

#

had it happen to me on R6BX

long atlas
#

I will say that it did happen on R5C1 at some point(no checkpoints) but it does seem more common if there's checkpoints, so that adds up

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Fair enough though, is there a specific explanation or is generally just the memory leak issue affecting random things?

uneven kiln
#

probably memory leak tbh

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run memoryleakfix

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(for your sanity)

long atlas
#

I mean I only have like 14 more stages to possibly clear with bots only so it's a bit late for that lmao

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But good to know regardless, I appreciate the answer

safe cradle
#

When that happens, check if the "copy lobby id" in settings is still there

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If it aint there, AFAIK, you're doomed

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I had it happen to some of my R5C2 runs with bots

#

No idea if checkpoints can also cause it

long atlas
#

I see, if that's the exact cause then that's even better to know. I always got the impression that it was random so I tried to avoid doing it for that reason

uneven kiln
#

the game can basically forget loadouts with checkpoints, especially if someone leaves and comes back after a checkpoint

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and then that player or bot will permanently have no weapons at all

#

so they might as well not even be there

long atlas
#

I always wondered if that was a potential problem if you did checkpoints without a person or bot present, makes sense to not mess with the game like that

uneven kiln
#

I know for example if you do this on R6CX with a person, on rejoin that person won't be able to use terminals at all

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they can but they can't see any output or any of the Uplink IPs because that warden intel/progression text is permanently gone for them

#

above all else, the innate memory leak issues cause most things to stop functioning after awhile

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turrets will stop working, sound will go silent, bots will not perform actions more often and eventually stop doing anything except follow you, game will be much laggier

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memoryleakfix + shooterbugfix + gluefix is the anti-memory leak triad

long atlas
#

It's wild that this game even runs without those fixes

uneven kiln
#

I have indeed stress tested it

frail heart
#

You get very easily get around most bugs

uneven kiln
#

you shouldnt be experiencing it in most scenarios but idk how fast you play

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if you're spending 3-4 hours in a level with bots in vanilla for example you are absolutely bound to see some of the effects

long atlas
uneven kiln
#

I had a convo with someone just the other week who went AFK on R2D1 for a couple of hours and they came back to being soundbugged and the game lagging really badly

long atlas
#

The worst thing I encounter is just the spitter audio bug, though it's only ever crashed once from opening the map afterwards so it could be way worse

frail heart
#

I've never had my game crash from that bug

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I think some of that stuff is hardware dependant

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Like i know for a fact liquid bug is

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/void bug

uneven kiln
#

liquid bug has a "fix" now btw frosty

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VisorWipers resets your player vision

safe cradle
#

works very well

frail heart
#

dayum

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i have had liquid bug like twice ever

uneven kiln
#

doesnt address the root cause, but it's better than just hoping it doesnt happen

long atlas
#

Yeah like I said, maybe once out of like 10-15 spitter bugs has crashed my game so it hasn't been that common

uneven kiln
#

Spitter audio bug has crashed my game once, on R6D4 blind playthrough 90 minutes into the run

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crashed right before the final cell/alarm push to the end

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I remember that one very clearly, and that was before I ran any mods

long atlas
#

That's rough, in my case I was just doing some level testing so it was not a big deal at all. A heartbreaking way to lose a blind run

uneven kiln
#

before it gets to the crashing point it just starts taking away all of your sound gradually

long atlas
#

Then you hit tab once and footstep noises are literally inside of your ears

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At least that's been my experience being able to get some sound back after it goes away

timber shoal
#

i’m just goated like that

uneven kiln
#

if it's at an advanced enough stage it will crash the game instantly

#

this is exactly how that R6D4 run ended. First clients crashed just from normal gameplay and I instantly crashed when I opened the map

long atlas
uneven kiln
#

At this moment in time, given how I have had it explained to me by people who have troubleshot it, and the personal incident I will lean on you are getting lucky

#

I don't believe this one to be as hardware dependent as liquid bug is

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the sound bugging out is from audio not culling properly, liquid bug is a unity shader rendering failure on the GPU

long atlas
#

I see, I misinterpreted frosty's message earlier. I wonder if it's less likely if you're playing by yourself, though I doubt that matters at all

uneven kiln
#

the "awesome" part of liquid bug is that it's difficult to reproduce and it also doesn't throw an error. This is why there is no true root cause fix at this time

uneven kiln
#

unsure of general comparative likelihood, but yes

long atlas
uneven kiln
#

I've made it a personal endeavor to painstakingly document every oddity and bug so that if anyone ever asks about a bug, we have an answer

ripe hamlet
#

r2d1 spitter bug got me mad

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its why i caved and installed a bunch of mod fix now

long atlas
uneven kiln
# ripe hamlet r2d1 spitter bug got me mad

R2D1 as a whole is a level that led directly to the development of stuckenemyfix, gluefix (to fix spitter audio bug), and I naturally have to mention enemyanimationfix which is the lifeblood of so many things being fixed and it works in tandem with stuckenemyfix to prevent ever encountering stuck enemies again except flyers

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Flyers are an entirely separate case that doesn't really have a fix yet in vanilla. You can see them get stuck fairly often on R7C2 and R8E2

ripe hamlet
#

glad to know that r2d1 is a widespread suffering

prime musk
#

people just hate on 2d1 unessecarily

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from 1) taking a path involving more fog diving than necessary (the necessary amount is approximately 0)

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and 2) just like being abysmally slow

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playing even reasonably fast with proper pathing + resource zone makes it quite painless

prime ore
prime musk
#

i didn't like it at all because i thought it was tight on resources and slow and fog divey

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but then i routed it and cleared it solo and everything just clicked

burnt inlet
frail heart
#

its like an okay level

#

nothing special

ripe hamlet
#

when youre new and dont know the lvl its tedious

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and the only hard part is the extract, and thats where you likely would get spitter bug and thats just massive time loss

frail heart
#

double blood door room and those zones were kinda hard for me when i first did it

ripe hamlet
#

the fog dive part is pain and suffering when you dont know the layout ngl

prime musk
#

you fog dive once if you do 1st class 5 -> blood door with key (this is the fog dive) -> key zone -> class 4 zone

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and even then you have a solid chance of rolling a key that requires minimal fog diving, espescially if you roll key in 610 where it is often in A or B

cerulean fjord
#

Anyone know how the Shadows become translucent?

turbid horizon
#

magic

#

afaik we don’t know

burnt inlet
turbid horizon
#

Pretty sure I asked frosty once and they didn’t know, but who knows maybe something came up

burnt inlet
#

🤷‍♂️

timber shoal
#

it’s becaud the strikers are invincible

burnt inlet
#

This dork ahh 😭

sudden nexus
final terrace
#

what we do know is that women can't turn invisible

final terrace
#

get fucked dodo

timber shoal
uneven kiln
#

that's an actual bug btw

final terrace
timber shoal
#

also are shadow scouts not women

final terrace
#

no

burnt inlet
uneven kiln
#

if an enemy is killed on the same frame they spawn they become headless and sit idle

timber shoal
#

like they use the striker model but

#

i would assume that they’re like the typical scout canonically

final terrace
#

why are they strikers then

burnt inlet
#

Scout breeded with shadow

timber shoal
#

because gtfo’s fuckin weird

uneven kiln
#

shadow scouts are just a fat striker

burnt inlet
timber shoal
#

anyway

final terrace
burnt inlet
#

Dodo can you grow arms like a scouts tendrils?

timber shoal
#

might have to look into this……

burnt inlet
timber shoal
burnt inlet
#

😔

timber shoal
#

oh wait i thought of something

#

so like

#

picture this

burnt inlet
final terrace
timber shoal
#

shut the fuck up

final terrace
#

how

timber shoal
#

😭 😭 😭

#

anyway

#

what if cscouts are transmasc and shadow scouts are transfem

#

is this good

final terrace
#

you might be cooking

remote plaza
#

what if everyone was trans

burnt inlet
#

What if everyone fucked me

final terrace
#

also we can all agree hybrids are intersex right

timber shoal
burnt inlet
#

I mean

#

Uhhh

#

….

remote plaza
#

already happening moth

final terrace
burnt inlet
#

What if everyone chill… and nonchalant

burnt inlet
timber shoal
final terrace
remote plaza
#

i think tanks are homophobic

burnt inlet
final terrace
#

it's estradiol

#

like it says on the bottle

timber shoal
burnt inlet
#

Pretty sure it says Vicodin

#

Give it to me

#

I need Vicodin

final terrace
remote plaza
#

moth

#

i think you need glasses

burnt inlet
#

Tomas its not lupus !!!!!

timber shoal
burnt inlet
#

It’s never lupus !!!!!

remote plaza
#

ITS NEVER LUPUS!!!

timber shoal
#

this vexes me

sudden nexus
timber shoal
#

:3

burnt inlet
final terrace
#

he needs mouse bites to live

burnt inlet
#

I need dodo bites to live

final terrace
#

this vexes me

remote plaza
#

this vexes him

sudden nexus
#

he is vexed

burnt inlet
#

Detta gör han lite argare än vanligt

remote plaza
#

goofy ahh language

burnt inlet
#

😭

#

Look at Finnish instead

remote plaza
#

all scandinavian languages and dutch goofy af

keen seal
#

mitä äijä selittää

burnt inlet
#

B-ajokortilla saa ajaa ajoneuvoa, jonka suurin sallittu kokonaismassa on enintään 3 500 kg ja joka on tarkoitettu kuljettamaan kuljettajan lisäksi enintään kahdeksan henkilöä. Peräkärryn vetämisessä B-kortilla on kaksi mahdollisuutta: peräkärryn kokonaismassa saa olla enintään 750 kg, tai jos peräkärry on painavampi, koko yhdistelmän (auto + peräkärry) kokonaismassa ei saa ylittää 3 500 kg. Jos yhdistelmän kokonaismassa on yli 3 500 kg, tarvitaan joko B96- tai BE-ajokortti.

burnt inlet
remote plaza
#

what about it

keen seal
#

I already have my drivers license bruh

burnt inlet
remote plaza
#

4th most spoken language

#

i think

remote plaza
#

how many people speak swedish

keen seal
#

spanish moment

remote plaza
#

like 7?

burnt inlet
keen seal
#

actually prob not

burnt inlet
#

10 milly plus prolly

remote plaza
#

sweden has 10m people

#

dude

burnt inlet
#

Tomas doesn’t snow

remote plaza
#

it snows here

burnt inlet
#

Yea but you don’t snow

remote plaza
#

those who snow

burnt inlet
#

I snow daily

#

@timber shoal would know

remote plaza
#

aight moth

#

r4b3 today

timber shoal
remote plaza
#

in 8 hours

timber shoal
keen seal
burnt inlet
timber shoal
#

sure

remote plaza
#

merry christmas

burnt inlet
#

Happy new years

burnt inlet
remote plaza
#

or now

#

your choice

burnt inlet
#

Wait no

#

At 3 am

remote plaza
#

4

#

or 3

frail heart
#

who speaks australian

burnt inlet
#

Dude idk

remote plaza
#

yeah 3

burnt inlet
frail heart
#

die

burnt inlet
#

😭

burnt inlet
frail heart
#

im eating porridge

remote plaza
#

did yall ever find the prime minister?

burnt inlet
#

Porr? Like p*rnography

burnt inlet
remote plaza
#

aight i will

#

yeah he there

topaz patrol
#

I have seen that some Speedrunners sometimes M1 with their Hammers. Why do they do that? Is it for Stamina reason or anything else? And why is it always the First hammerskin? is there any difference between the Hammerskins?

ripe hamlet
#

m1?

#

all skins are the same

topaz patrol
#

like hitting air

timber shoal
#

oh you mean like light swing the hammer while they run?

#

boredom lmao

ripe hamlet
#

nah they just do it for fun

topaz patrol
#

fr?

timber shoal
#

it doesn’t have impact on stamina one way or another

ripe hamlet
#

light swing doesnt cost stamina

timber shoal
#

so they’re just swingin about for the hell of it

topaz patrol
#

didn´t know that thanks:3

timber shoal
burnt inlet
ripe hamlet
#

which is sweatmaxxing strats and wouldnt matter unless youre speeding

burnt inlet
#

Yep

prime ore
#

R6D3

#

where is the terminal to turn off overload perma alarm

prime ore
#

it says zone 292

ripe hamlet
#

look for 292

#

then ping

#

oh wait you have to walk around

#

good luck

burnt inlet
prime ore
#

I've reached and found 292

#

turned off the perma alarm

#

and while I got back the mfs woke up the tank room like

timber shoal
#

lock in stev

#

clutch up next time

prime ore
#

bruh

timber shoal
#

don’t get in a dead end with a tank coming

#

easy

tardy ingot
#

kill tank

#

tank zone is actually not horrible to wake up
Especially with error off

prime ore
prime ore
#

if we kill them all they will jst spawn back in

timber shoal
#

are you planning on leaving the awake tank alive then? i’m confused by what you mean by that

prime ore
#

if they wake up the run is dead atp

tardy ingot
#

its just some ammo and probably hp

#

which both arent very rare in r6d3

prime ore
#

what tools do we even

#

run for this

#

its supposed to be a reactor and we havent even reached it ONCE

#

cuz of this room

tardy ingot
# prime ore its respawn

Yea
It respawns when you are 2 rooms away with all players. So they can fight in the room, 1 room away
Or simply die in the room or same if you dont want a respawn before everyone is back up and enemies dead

timber shoal
#

if it’s awake

#

that might help

#

you might lose less runs that way

prime ore
#

dude

tardy ingot
# prime ore cuz of this room

unironically

start the mission main only
(You can insta access the room)

Then kill it 2-3 times

Get some practice in

prime ore
#

every time

#

we tried to kill them

#

we die instantly

#

we jst get murked

tardy ingot
#

??

prime ore
#

you take cover

timber shoal
#

boh?

prime ore
#

you get killed by hybrids

#

like that is forced stealth

tardy ingot
#

how do you get killed by hybrids in cover

timber shoal
#

yeah i’m not saying wake room lmao

#

i’m saying shoot tank

#

if it goes up

#

or do wake room

tardy ingot
timber shoal
#

how many giants spawn in that room, 10 or smth?

prime ore
#

like

#

6 hybrids

#

4 giants

#

2 tanks

tardy ingot
#

Easiest way to fight the room if it goes up by accident

  1. kill smalls rushing you (while in cover)
  2. take out pushing giants and get hybrids (reposition if tank moves up)
  3. clear rest of giants
  4. kill tanks
burnt inlet
prime ore
tardy ingot
#

the room is „scary“

But you are in r6d3
You have scatterguns or whatever boss kill you prefer. Shoot them

#

ammo isnt an issue

turbid horizon
#

yeah

#

that room seems scary

timber shoal
#

yeah stev are you not running scatter or smth

tardy ingot
#

tbh you dont even need scatter

#

Burst cannon
Choke mod
Shotgun
Even precision rifle/sniper

#

just shoot

timber shoal
#

it sounds like they could use it though lmao

prime ore
burnt inlet
#

😎

tardy ingot
#

ngl tools for r6d3 are usually

Bio + sentry + mines

Last slot can be sentry/bio or cfoam

Cfoam is useless outside of 1 alarm (so dont)
Sentry is kinda useless unless you suck at reactor hold
Bio is neat

tardy ingot
#

But @prime ore

Unironically. Drop into r6d3
Do main (not ovl) scan

Shoot up the room. Its good practice

prime ore
#

there is no way a tank will not appear inside the reactor

timber shoal
#

more than 1

tardy ingot
#

at least 2 :^ )

burnt inlet
#

I think there’s more than -1 tanks

timber shoal
#

if you let room respawn probably like 1 billion

tardy ingot
#

That room is unironically smth commonly shot up by vets for fun

timber shoal
#

ooh would that be a cool mechanic

burnt inlet
#

But team tbh, I think stev should do R2E1 before R6D3

timber shoal
#

when you kill a respawn room it replaces each enemy killed with a tougher enemy

prime ore
#

weekend

#

I cannot get all my friends to play so

burnt inlet
#

Play R4 or R5

prime ore
#

except

#

the scitzo mission

timber shoal
#

like you clear a bunch of smalls and they respawn as chargers, then hybrids, then you come back again and it’s full of tanks or some shit lmao

#

would that be goated

prime ore
#

actually two scitzo missions