gtfo-related-questions

[static kestrel]

it made me realize 2 things

holy fuck the bullpup rifle is genuinely so fucking ass

and holy fuck i swear the heavy ar was not this bad

like it was actually so aida

aids

[grizzled patrol]

learning it the hard way i see

[timber shoal]

once you’re outside of a team setting there’s nothing to compensate for the lack of firepower and it becomes much more evident much more quickly

[static kestrel]

it breaks my heart

i swear if i headshot a sleeper it can 1 shot to the body, so 2 bullets

but like

just no lol

it def doesnt feel like that anymore or idek if it ever did and im just delusional

[timber shoal]

it’s probably a matter of other people dealing collateral damage/leaving damaged enemies alive and you cleaning them up in a couple hits

or more sentries having more damage spread

[static kestrel]

nah i was always playing solo heavy ar

lol

in lfgs i was always like "we need a sniper? ok cool"

[gentle forge]

That’s the damn truth. The shittiness of the various weapons can certainly be obscured by team dynamics

[timber shoal]

yeppers

[gentle forge]

I won’t die on this hill because I respect other people’s choice to bring whatever they want. I might make suggestions but I’m not gonna make it an issue. So far we’ve been able to continue even with suboptimal loadouts but I have a feeling we’ll hit a wall at some point

And that’s a bridge we can cross when we get to it. But I don’t particularly mind the artificial handicap created by the opportunity cost of not choosing certain weapons lol

[timber shoal]

oh absolutely

i try not to run sawed off scatter/helgun/helrifle all the time because it really does get boring after a while (at least to me)

there are plenty of “suboptimal” weapons that perform well enough to justify bringing along on missions that are also fun

spicing things up with worse weapons can make the game more fun imo

[gentle forge]

It can certainly make it more challenging

[timber shoal]

machine pistol, short rifle, and revolver are some of my favorite weapons outside the meta

i like subbing in one or more alongside something stronger for funsies

machine pistol/scatter is one of my favorite loadouts

[sudden nexus]

you would like subbing

[timber shoal]

covers most bases and you can get some delicious multikills through staggering with mp and hitting the piled up enemies with scatter

[timber shoal]

damn right

:3

[grizzled patrol]

using machinepistol for stagger is just sad

[tacit trout]

short rifle feels really good despite being horrible lmao

[timber shoal]

it’s not all i use it for lmao

it chews through smalls really fucking fast

[sudden nexus]

the humble autoclicker allowing to quickly dump your load all over a bbc

[timber shoal]

but usually one or two bullets to the head is a light stagger and you can use that to make them bunch up for more multi’s

[tacit trout]

YEAH

[timber shoal]

it’s a lot of fun

ammo efficiency doesn’t really exist but like

it feels good to magdump giants

[tacit trout]

i remember using it for the first time and going "wow this gun feels insanelt responsive for a semi auto", then i saw the wiki

[sudden nexus]

you get it
checks bio
spear user
you dont get it.....

[tacit trout]

i use all but bat tbh

[sudden nexus]

image of the guy mining and turning around right before hitting diamond

[tacit trout]

I'll live in my blissful ignorance

[timber shoal]

bat’s goated

like the perfect blend between knife and sledge

with a garnish of absurd stagger on top

[remote plaza]

Weiner shaped too

[timber shoal]

more like a ribbed buttplug

[remote plaza]

Even better

[reef rock]

for sleeping enjoyment

[static kestrel]

i love sleep

[normal granite]

ribbed ribbit?

[agile field]

Ribbit plug, specially designed

[timber shoal]

ribbit plug, yeppers

[safe cradle]

Sleep is nice

[west raven]

Sloth

[prime ore]

I wish id sleep more but I jst got too deep into 6am school schedule so even when it's not school time I jst wake up at that time no matter what I do

[ripe hamlet]

just sleep in lil bro

[prime ore]

I physically can't bro idk why

[civic wave]

i blink and lose 50 minutes

it's all the testosterone, bad for your health

[prime ore]

Nahh I am not the only one that this happens

Its like 12 am

I get messaged

And while typing I feel like I get FLASHBANGED

In the middle of typing and I see its like 4 am

[west raven]

Stop taking your phone to bed

[prime ore]

Yeah ik I stopped doing that but like the moment I grab my phone to bed

"oh hey let me put my alarm on"

[west raven]

Uninstall tiktok

[prime ore]

Jst instantly flashbanged

[west raven]

And YouTube

[prime ore]

Ion even use tiktok lol

[west raven]

What do you watch short form content on

Get rid of it

[civic wave]

for me it happens when i lay there in bed, trying to fall asleep or having woken recently

one time i was lying down in bed at 12:30am because my back was sore, then i fell asleep and woke 4 hours later with half the lights on, still wearing tights and shorts instead of pyjamas

[prime ore]

Not that ion use those its like moment I start messaging some1 that happens

[west raven]

You must have some incredible conversations

[prime ore]

Like I'd casually start texting with my friend for smth like school project and that happens like that is NOT normal surely

[civic wave]

i mean

[prime ore]

That's gotta be a crazy night I guess

[civic wave]

falling asleep too quickly can be a sign of exhaustion

an absence seizure lasting 4 hours sounds absurd and would be hard to confirm by yourself

like if you pick up exactly where you left off, that could be a sign ig

[prime ore]

I stopped taking my phone or stuff like that before bed

Made shit easier to sleep

[civic wave]

yeah, was speaking to my girlfriend over voice call and watching a streamer, when i woke up she was gone and it was a different streamer (who i still like) on my phone

[prime ore]

I am not that tired normally but like the flashbang things I will never get

[prime ore]

It goes smth like I message somebody for maybe 10 minutes and then I jst get like a brain fart in the middle of the night and I am like mega confused

And then I like go drink smth and jst go to bed again I have no idea

[safe cradle]

YES

VISORWIPER mod destroys the damn liquid bug

[uneven kiln]

I should really list this on wiki, I haven’t heard complaints about it yet just like to make sure stuff is tested

[safe cradle]

I just had the symptoms

and F2 istantly cleared it

[dapper kestrel]

iirc its basically just like freethyself, liquid bug edition. just force clears your screen for a second

[uneven kiln]

It’s looking like the best answer to it since the root cause is something that would pretty much require the modded community to have the R8 Mono build

[uneven kiln]

FreeThySelf unfortunately only works on some of the softlocks. For example, it will work on the R5D2 one but it will never work on both R7C1 softlocks to name 2 levels

That is why I’ve been gathering information on every single softlock in the game to write a definitive one so you don’t get softlocked in the first place

[dapper kestrel]

interesting, didnt know it didnt work on some spots

[uneven kiln]

It’s been a long, arduous endeavor but I’ve been getting a lot of good data on that just to make sure we’re being thorough

[astral parrot]

Is it possible to matchmake, while I remain as a Host?

Or do I only need to host a lobby and hope someone matches with me?

[ocean spindle]

i would altogether not recommend matchmaking tbh, but i think u can host a lvl and then matchmake from inside the lvl itself

i personally would just use LFG

lets u do it easier

[astral parrot]

ah I see, thank you. I'm planning to use the discord's LFG soon, once I get my bearings. for now, I'd like to play with randoms

Do bots get replaced with players, if someone joins me midgame?

[burnt inlet]

its technically still randoms

[burnt inlet]

yes

[grizzled patrol]

only if your slots allow it to do so

you can set it to players only if you dont want any bots

[pseudo coyote]

it can probably be improved to work generally by tp-ing to nearest valid navmesh location

the navmesh can be filtered using flood technique to ensure its filtered of bad locations like roof, etc...

(that's how replay generates a pretty clean navmesh itself)

[uneven kiln]

Agree. The R7C1 softlocks are due to the same root cause in different geomorphs: a capsulecollider is misaligned with the pipes and when players walk on it, they get stuck in the gap (partially in the floor)

[pseudo coyote]

yeah all freethyselve does is push you up some units, but putting u on a nearest valid navmesh should account for all situations

[gentle forge]

In the archive, is there not also an option that cleans the visor? Or does the visor wiper mod do something beyond whatever the archive option does

[fading wave]

Is there a way to unbound a keybind to be nothing?

[burnt inlet]

I think wiper mod just allows for a certain keybind to be used

[gentle forge]

I see. I tried using it but would get errors when launching the game; never looked at them and just uninstalled it. I need to try it again

[burnt inlet]

Might be new update, is it depreciated?

[gentle forge]

You mean the mod itself? Should’ve been fully updated

[burnt inlet]

I meant the games update, the security patch

[civic wave]

Yes, slightly convoluted
Pick what you want to unbind (I'll call this key1), and any other key (call this key2)

The game only allows one keybind per button, so what you do is click on key1, set it to use the button which key 2 uses. This unbinds key2. Then go back to key2, and put the keybind back on. This unbinds key1

[fading wave]

I see

Thank you

[gentle forge]

Oh, you mean maybe the update messed the mod up

[burnt inlet]

Yea

[burnt inlet]

<@&408548765599793173>

[fading wave]

CW: steam achievement
did I miss something or is this just saying hey you just beat [insert level here]

[ocean spindle]

at the final hallway of d1 theres a morse code

in sounds

meetal bangs

[fading wave]

oh okay

so it's both lol

im too lazy to decipher it but neato 👍

so then how come more people have the achievement for completing all of R1 than that achievement

[burnt inlet]

it means "get out" or "escape" cant remember which

[burnt inlet]

cuz achivements didnt drop when game dropped

[remote plaza]

get out....

get the fuck out even....

[fading wave]

all I can assume is that someone else did the requirement for that achievement and it counted towards me too

bit of a head scratcher for me lol

[burnt inlet]

so like i think how its counted is if youve cleared R1 (ALT R1 was before achievements were dropped) and when achievements dropped you got the R1 complete thing

[ocean spindle]

the way D1 grants the achiv is by playing it past-achivements introduction, but u could complete it befote that

the only achievements that are retroactive are rundown completions

so people who did R1 before achivs, and then just played any other lvl, got jt

the dots and dashes tho wouldve required u to go back to d1 specifically

also it says "Escape" i believe

[burnt inlet]

yea i think escape

[fading wave]

okay well uhm

I'm pretty sure I didn't do that though

Given I only have like 30 hours in the game

[burnt inlet]

wdym?

[fading wave]

And am pretty new and recently started off

[burnt inlet]

you cant complete R1 anymore without going to that specific zone

[fading wave]

#lfg-beginners message
also this person's link seems to not work
it just puts me into a new call instead of theirs

[timber shoal]

if you beat r1d1 you get the schaeffer achievement

[burnt inlet]

yes it does

[fading wave]

so it's just beating r1d1?
i was just a little confused when you mentioned the original r1 despite me only ever playing altr1

[timber shoal]

maybe they want you to create an lfg post? i’ve never seen someone link that before lmao

[burnt inlet]

no ok so like current R1

[timber shoal]

i think that was in response to the percentage of people with the two achievements

[fading wave]

oh so only people who returned to r1 after it got changed and beat d1 got the morse code badge?

[timber shoal]

yes

[fading wave]

i see

so some og veterans just never did that so they dont have the badge

makes more sense

[timber shoal]

it’s dependent on you entering the room right before reactor

[timber shoal]

yeppers

[burnt inlet]

so ALT R1 was before the achievements droppe

anyone completing ALT R1 still gets that complete R1 achievement

but not the schaeffer since you need to be in a room for it

[timber shoal]

you mean if they completed alt r1 before achievements dropped

[burnt inlet]

yea

[timber shoal]

right

[burnt inlet]

achievements dropped when game was finished iirc

[timber shoal]

r8 methinks

[fading wave]

-# isnt alt r1 the new one though
-# so it would really be the other way around
-# "R1 was before achievements dropped. Anyone completing R1 still gets the complete R1 achievement. But the schaeffer one was added after ALT R1 where they slightly updated the levels"

[burnt inlet]

ALT R1 is new R1

[timber shoal]

oh lord

it doesn’t matter that much

[burnt inlet]

no so like when i say R1 i mean ALT R1

[fading wave]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-cat-confused-math-aint-mathing-huh-cat-gif-883992111571860857

at the end of the day i guess it doesnt really matter
just two silly achievements and nothing more

[timber shoal]

timeline looks like this:
R1 released
ALT R1 released (previous progress wiped as a result)
achievements released

[fading wave]

only thing i dont fully understand is the origin of said achievements and how i got one
but meh

[burnt inlet]

and the achievement you see is only for ALT R1

[timber shoal]

any person with the og r1 clear would not get the achievement because of the progress wipe

any person with ALT R1 would get the achievement

[fading wave]

ok

https://tenor.com/view/ah-eto-bleh-bleh-bleh-meme-oopsie-woopsie-gif-16378023338109866191

[timber shoal]

and regardless of when the clears occurred, if achievements weren’t in the game, the schaeffer one would not be earned bc it’s independent of getting the level clear

[fading wave]

thank you lizard man

[burnt inlet]

yea what dodo said lo

[timber shoal]

of course :3

[fading wave]

wait lizard lady i checked the bio mbad

LOL

[timber shoal]

you’re all good lol

[topaz anvil]

:)

[royal pumice]

Hey guys, i need help to understand how the giant in this clip woke up:
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxJVpxwGd5Vq7o2GTkULoALSl7Hg0xWcQQ?si=YG5OYpaXKqr6D4ho

it's even funny how abruptly he wakes up and just punches my friend in the face. Afaik we should be safe because he wasn't on a glowing state? And shouldn't he go into the glowing state and then wake up? Why was it so sudden?

[patent mulch]

i come in here and see monkey face wth 😭

[royal pumice]

lmao sorry

it's the thumb from the live vod that i use to analyze prog lmao

[patent mulch]

how close was the big to the small? if it was less than 3m it will wake up when something dies near it

[royal pumice]

hmmm it was fairly close, it prob was less than 3m

i though the 3m thing was if they were glowing?

[patent mulch]

you probably also just didn't see the wake up animation if you were client but i couldn't tell you since im almost always hosting

[royal pumice]

i was hosting

usually when something wakes we call it, specially giants, so no one gets stomped

but it was so sudden lmao

[patent mulch]

weird how you didn't see the wake up anim but also i barely bring thermals so i got no idea what it is for standing sleeping shadow giants

whoever has the bio should just be holding it out since that's instant knowledge

[royal pumice]

we're doing blind runs in chronological order so it's our first time dealing with so many invis, this is r2e1

[royal pumice]

noted

thanks!

[patent mulch]

also 3m is close range aggro, around 12m is long range aggro which is the one that needs the dude to glow and is also rng dependant

[royal pumice]

so 3m or less is insta 100% wake up got it

[patent mulch]

(insta but with wake up animation)

[patent mulch]

also gl, took my team like 2 months playing every weekend to beat it lol

if you get stuck too long tbh just do r3 then come back to r2e1, r3 isn't very long

[normal granite]

Personally, id recommend ignoring e tier missions until all other missions are complete (but id leave all of r8 untouched)

[patent mulch]

i feel like that's a bit of an over extension of the get more experience before doing E tiers

[royal pumice]

we got told that a couple of times but we're just too stubborn

we got through r2d2 after a month playing every night

https://tenor.com/view/fake-fake-smile-gif-4311730897061113692

[patent mulch]

holy 😭 (it took us 2 months but not every night)

[thick stump]

if an enemy is too close, there is always a high chance that they wake up, it is not 100%, so sometimes you can be lucky

but in your case I would just attack the giants with 3 people and that 1 striker with the other guy, should be quite easy because you 4 were next to each other anyways

[patent mulch]

it is 100%, it's just that there is a 3s cooldown or something between aggros like that so you can chain kill without close range aggro always triggering

[thick stump]

oh, but when you wake up the small guy and then kill it, then it isn't 100%, right?

[patent mulch]

well if you woke it through short/long range aggro, then it is 0% for either of those to happen if you kill it quick enough

[thick stump]

I usually wake it up by walking or flashlight

[patent mulch]

if you woke it through any other means (except scream), the dude will be the source of a long range aggro check with a 100% chance of occuring if one is glowing within range

[patent mulch]

(in that scenario the check occurs when the enemy wakes up and not when it dies i think)

there's a stealth guide from eva that explains all of it

[thick stump]

that's the thing, he woke up an enemy next to a giant and then killed it and the giant was still asleep but I forgot how he woke him up, I thought flashlight

[patent mulch]

idk i would need timestamp or something to check

[thick stump]

I watched the video again, and he indeed woke him up with short/long range aggro

[ripe hamlet]

No

The cooldown is practically instant

And only for long range aggro

Proximity aggro has no cooldown

[patent mulch]

both wrong for sure, first hand experience

[ripe hamlet]

We have some ppl labbed it with cconsole

[patent mulch]

i have experienced the cooldown in gameplay myself

[ripe hamlet]

Long range aggro is probabilistic

But only for melee hit

Otherwise it’s guaranteed

[patent mulch]

i have experienced it in short range aggro scenarios

[ripe hamlet]

Explain how to reproduce it then

It’d be very interesting to see

[patent mulch]

idk put 3 dudes in a straight line and quickly kill one on the end then the one in the middle, i have abused it in some ingame scenarios

[ripe hamlet]

Killing the awake dude will not wake up other dudes

That’s not aggro cooldown it’s a separate thing

[patent mulch]

damn

[royal pumice]

i'm reading everything and taking notes

thanks for the help, guys

we may finish r2 this year i wanna believe

[ripe hamlet]

with one exception though

if the sleeper wakes up via you meleeing them, each subsequent melee will make a check for long ranged aggro

[prime musk]

an enemy that wakes up from aggro (proximity or long range) can't proxy or long range any other sleepers.

[versed aspen]

Is there a specific thing to do in R8B2 secondary objective ? Im stuck to "Locate terminal in zone_328"

[ocean spindle]

check commands on 328

wait

which oons 328

[[R8B2]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R8B2

[ocean spindle]

no yeah check commands

[versed aspen]

I finally got it !

[ocean spindle]

:O

[versed aspen]

Guess it was "BYPASS_ID_Z188"

[ocean spindle]

like completed b2 or

got the command in only

[versed aspen]

But I dont understand why

Had to check on internet

[ocean spindle]

i literally linked the wiki

did u spent 2 hours on b2

looking fpr ooptioons

[versed aspen]

Nah

😄

But we did that expedition in 2hours tbh

[ocean spindle]

a

[versed aspen]

Bots are so fucking braindead

[ocean spindle]

:[

bots my beloved

wdym

[versed aspen]

yeye

Thanks for your answers slendo man

[static kestrel]

ub

uh

is anybody elses GTFO convinced that you dont have internet

lol

[ocean spindle]

someones steams off

[fading wave]

i understand that the hydrostasis is why theyve survived the infection

but what about food and water

cuz not only is there just none to be seen

but theyd have to take off their masks too

and then theres bathroom questions, and like-

idk lol

[tiny wyvern]

#gtfo-lore

not here

[fading wave]

oh there's a separate channel for that

thx :3

[vestal crest]

Any tips for the tanks at the end of R5D2? We didn’t have enough ammo to fight them, but it doesn’t seem like there is enough time to run to extraction. We got to the last door but because of how many doors there are we couldn’t c-foam them all

[timber shoal]

run

v fast

[vestal crest]

With a bot

[timber shoal]

you can make it

mmm

[vestal crest]

Bot slows us down

[timber shoal]

yeah that might be rough

[vestal crest]

I guess I could kick him at the end of the reactor

Do a 3 person extraction

He kept dying anyways lol

[ripe hamlet]

Run and foam

You only foam funnel and do it fast I guess

[burnt inlet]

You have to run like 5 seconds earlier than usual then

(With bots)

[vital yarrow]

random question about the tiles/geomorphs: ive been trying to look at the grid on the ingame map for reference on project stuff for the scale of the levels and geomorphs, but it never seems accurate - so does anyone know what size the actual geomorphs are, if they all have the same grid scale? like 50x50 whatever metric

im not asking for the accurate scale metric of the ingame map grid i mean (cause its always off center with the walls and stuff), im asking if all the geomorphs have a general border/grid size in wich the tiles are designed to fit - and what that grid size is in a 10x10 format if there is a general one

[prime musk]

the biggest tiles (like the reactor bridge tile in r2d2, or the surge rooms in r2e1) are 64x64m

[carmine grotto]

If youre playing with 3 people its still fairly easy to have the ammo at the end as long as your 2nd to last code hunters move quickly. As far as running, not opening boxes, foaming doors behind you, and only moving forward will allow you to get to extract with plenty of time to extract in peace.

[floral acorn]

the grid is 64x64 and all cell grid positions are in relation, vector3 0,0,0 in reality is actually at grid pos 20,20 and the grid is 40x40

go 32m north and u arrive at grid 20,21

[vital yarrow]

alright, thanks alot

[floral acorn]

dimension grids are normally 10x10 starting at 5x5 but lgtuner extends dims also to 40x40

[vestal crest]

Are there c-foam grenades anywhere except the extraction sprint?

[civic wave]

there's maybe a couple

[carmine grotto]

Not really, theres maybe a few in previous/reactor zones, but there are enough that even if you held onto them until youre on the security door, you can dely enough time with them

[prime musk]

you should not have an issue reaching extraction in time AT ALL.
what path to extract are you taking? the standard route is to full sprint and hug left through the first zone (charge hammers for any chargers on path to avoid waking rooms). and then you do same through middle of 2nd zone

[vestal crest]

I guess we didn’t really sprint, but we did that route

We sprinted maybe 60%

[carmine grotto]

The c foam is less of the issue, if you take your time through the extraction zone sprint, you'll likely die. Moving fast is key

[prime musk]

you should also spend your foam in the 2nd zone, on the 2 big doors you go through in the middle

[patent mulch]

i could go check the spawn table gimme a sec

[prime musk]

because i believe that the tank(s) will path differently than you do through first zone if you close the doors behind you

[carmine grotto]

I think the move to the right side instead if you close it

[vestal crest]

They did ye

[carmine grotto]

Been a hot minute since doing 5D2 though so could be wrong

[vestal crest]

So should we just skip boxes after 1 c-foam grenade?

[prime musk]

you should skip boxes period

genuinely, if you plug code and instantly sprint to extract you have more than enough time

[vestal crest]

Okie I’ll give it a try

[prime musk]

if you wake every room because you fail your melees on the 2 chargers in the way then you could struggle on time

but even then you can also just keep running and deal with the enemies on the teamscans/extraction scan

[vestal crest]

Ye

[patent mulch]

the charger room during reactor test 3 seems to have guaranteed cfoam products with no other consumables included (zone 286)

other than that it's just low odds of spawning in most zones

[vestal crest]

Oh okie

Thanks

[vestal crest]

What table did you use to see that?

[prime musk]

it's in the datablocks i believe

[patent mulch]

i stole frosty's sheets

[vestal crest]

Ah

[civic wave]

are they frostys or are they kennys

[patent mulch]

tbh i just noticed they exist as a resource in the speedrunning server

[turbid horizon]

Probably kenny’s

[worthy shore]

this might not be the right chat for this question but is it still posible to change out files to go back to the origional rundowns?

[timber shoal]

yes!

[worthy shore]

do i have to have to have the files already myself or is there a place to get them? and is there a place to show how to do it? been a while since i have

[burnt inlet]

ill dm you a vid

[worthy shore]

can you resend it i hit wrong button lol @burnt inlet sorry

[tardy ingot]

CertainlyKennys (also known as RandomKennys)

[turbid horizon]

Perhaps Kenny’s

[frail heart]

PerchanceKenny

[prime musk]

MayhapsKenny

[turbid horizon]

PossiblyKenneth

[vestal crest]

Bruh i was so ready to outrun those tanks but then full screen void bug happened lmao

I've never had it cover my whole screen before

[remote plaza]

the void consumes

[vestal crest]

true

it hungy

[tacit trout]

Ripppp

I got a clip of me yesterday cluelessly opening an auto wakeup room yesterday with an insane voidbug lmao

Mum fight with void bug very fun

[reef rock]

is there a guide on funneling enemies

[static kestrel]

the moon lights your skinnnn

you turn mine into stoonneee

i still get neerrrvoouusssss when we're alonneeee

and i know it huurrtttssss whennnn i tell you whyyyy

i think you shooulllddd stayyyyyyyy

[quasi ridge]

If anyone could give me an explanation or solution to the bug I encountered in this video I would greatly appreciate it. https://youtu.be/Mrf341DOC4Q

[ripe hamlet]

probably desync

better luck next time

[quasi ridge]

awesome

[ripe hamlet]

maybe doorenemyfixupdated might help

[jagged shore]

nah there's something nefarious there
cause the host was indicating that nothing looked wrong on the setup

if the doors were open for the host then yeah
but idk how that'd be desync if everyone should be seeing the same thing

[ripe hamlet]

either they desync or they somehow clip through the door

[quasi ridge]

can confirm we all saw door shut

[jagged shore]

do you know if anyone's running mods

[ripe hamlet]

desync in this game is crazy

[quasi ridge]

no mods

[jagged shore]

if it was just one door i think i could chalk it up to some weird desync
but both is whacky

[frail heart]

Never fear

[ripe hamlet]

one possible thing is that someone interact with the door while foamed

[frail heart]

Because Joe chin is here

[ripe hamlet]

and did some variant of door bug

[quasi ridge]

the weirdest part to me is that they break the door while also attacking through it

like shouldnt it be one or the other

[ripe hamlet]

thats relatively normal

[frail heart]

They do that

[tardy ingot]

Cfoam is going through the door

[ripe hamlet]

they clipped thru the door and hit the mine

[jagged shore]

yeah could just be some weird variation of shooter bug

consequence rather

[tardy ingot]

This has been known yea

[ripe hamlet]

normal shooter bug make cfoam blob go thru door yes

[jagged shore]

i've never seen them do this specifically, neat

[tardy ingot]

Shooter projectiles dont hit
Cfoam goes through dmged doors
Enemies can try and hit through doors

[jagged shore]

ik, just never seen enemies tongue through doors cause of it

makes sense

[quasi ridge]

is there a way to prevent it

[jagged shore]

swap guns in lobby between every run

and don't take 2 hrs in a run

[ripe hamlet]

theres a mod fix

[jagged shore]

or mod

[ripe hamlet]

or you just restart the game every so often

[tardy ingot]

iirc there is a modded fix

But in vanilla

1. swap weapons when in lobby makes it happen far later
2. restart game after every few hours

[quasi ridge]

cool

muchos gracias

[brisk compass]

Objectively speaking, what main weapon is best for new players?

[ripe hamlet]

sawed off, hel revo, carbine

[brisk compass]

thank you

[ripe hamlet]

i think hel shotgun is the only main weapon thats not newbie friendly

[gentle forge]

are any sentries affected by fog?

if so which?

[tardy ingot]

nop

[gentle forge]

did that change at some point? I thought I saw that they were

[tardy ingot]

I dont think they were ever impacted

[grizzled patrol]

Yes

It makes their scanning projection Blue

[gentle forge]

so it changes their cone color but doesn't impact their performance in any way?

[grizzled patrol]

Yessir

[gentle forge]

cool

also, is there any penalty for being downed when the extract completes?

[timber shoal]

nope

[grizzled patrol]

You lose Style points

[timber shoal]

actually yes, 1 million dollar penalty

[gentle forge]

oh hell nah

[uneven kiln]

DoorEnemyFixUpdated
ShooterBugFix
MemoryLeakFix

all work in conjunction to prevent what just happened here

[west raven]

✋ 🎥 🔥 🤚

[reef rock]

absolute charginemia

[burnt inlet]

Is R4D4 only close quarters?

[winter breach]

Would be if it was real

[burnt inlet]

😭 i meant R6D4

[winter breach]

Moth

Youre washed

[burnt inlet]

@timber shoal washed my belly

cleaned my belly

yeeeees

[timber shoal]

i’m gonna kill you

[burnt inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bagel-spaghetti-gif-26365750

[winter breach]

Scattergun him

[burnt inlet]

she scatter on my gun till i cfoam

[winter breach]

https://tenor.com/view/lock-in-locked-in-lock-tf-in-cat-cat-meme-gif-13335816645637017379

[burnt inlet]

@finite oracle its allowed

but modded server is prolly better for mods

[reef rock]

omg ma im in the picutre!

[burnt inlet]

look ma hes famous

[reef rock]

https://tenor.com/view/mizuki-akiyama-project-sekai-nightchord-at2500-niigo-25ji-nightcode-de-gif-24341247

i am mizuki from pjsk

[full stream]

Wow, 2 hel rifles and 2 scatters

[sharp pivot]

does anyone know the best way to get all achivements?

[ocean spindle]

playing 🔥

tbh u should unlock most by just doing that

gettin ur completions in

[digital mural]

Playing

If you play the game normally while looking for the logs

You'll get like 90% of the achievements

Only like 5 are "challenge" runs which are easy as well

[west raven]

i literally read r6d4 instead of r4d4

https://tenor.com/view/telepathy-telepathic-psychic-mind-reader-meld-gif-13614415

[burnt inlet]

clown to clown communication

[west raven]

100%

[real wyvern]

I don't know where to ask this;
Me and 3 friends are attempting to get through the brickwall that is R2D2;Powerless

Are there any tips people have to help us?

[timber shoal]

hello! where are you dying presently?

[tardy ingot]

What are all of your guys loadouts?

What/when are you guys dying (to)

[final terrace]

R2D2 took us a minute

[digital mural]

It usually takes over an hour and a half

[final terrace]

you right my bad

[tardy ingot]

Hey it takes at least 30 minutes

[digital mural]

Huh

Wait

What's the wr for D2

[tardy ingot]

33:26 iirc

but you can easily get like over a minute off from that

[stiff hearth]

It can took you a minute if you die to blood door

[tardy ingot]

[real wyvern]

Well we've been currently struggling especially near 5-6/10 and now at 8/10.
Primarily dying due to ammo issues and being swarmed

[dense junco]

question r2d2 wtf is that mission as we spend 6 days on it. We using checkpoint mod and still dying the longest run we had today were we got to stage 8 and died on the door

[timber shoal]

have you been fully looting each room?

every zone contains ammo as far as i’m aware

[dense junco]

hi and me are in same group

[real wyvern]

I am personally using HEL Sentry, Drekker P1 and a switching primary lastly running with raptus treffen

Don't remember what other's using much.

[timber shoal]

another issue that you might be having is too many people shooting at once, if you’ve got four people, only like 2-3 really need to be shooting at any given time

[dense junco]

I was using 3 burst smg the big wind up machine gun knife and standered turret

[real wyvern]

We have been doing that, must with your recent statement, that may be a fault of ours. (I.E. Using too much ammo earlier on)

[tardy ingot]

(Regarding guns. We dont use manufacturer names, they are just not telling of what gun it is, aside from the machine guns where its veruta/arbalist)

[burnt inlet]

hel auto isnt great with reactors generally, they EAT up tool refill

id suggest burst and sniper sentry for reactors

[tardy ingot]

Dont use the hel auto sentry (or shotgun sentry) pretty much

Its extremely niche and at a base value just runs out of ammo quickly for little value

Usually youd pick burst, with sniper sentry for big enemies.
Always a bio tracker obviously

[real wyvern]

Alrighty noted;
Edited then, Special = Thermal Precision Sniper, and Machine pistol

[tardy ingot]

In a way this is true yes

Overshooting does happen a ton
But telling people to NOT shoot isnt good either when they are newer and getting overrun
Its more about knowing what to shoot

Than not to shoot

[tardy ingot]

Oh boy

Checkpoint mod 💀

[real wyvern]

[final terrace]

(precision rifle*)

[tardy ingot]

I wouldnt mind it as much (checkpoints are pretty cursed) if the checkpoint placements of the mod werent atrocious at times

[dense junco]

we do indeed have 1 min timer after after host spawns after reload

it's mainly there for simple fact to save up on boosters

[timber shoal]

true, probably could’ve been more clear with that

[tardy ingot]

Precision rifle is „ok“
If you hit headshots its pretty decent into small enemies and it can def help to kill a scout for code 5 if in a hurry

Machine pistol… so it obviously has bad range but full auto weapons are generally not good in this game either

[tardy ingot]

Using boosters is obviously a personal choice

But I typically recommend not to use them

They are not required for the game AT ALL. The game isnt designed or balanced with them in mind and they can actually make learning the game harder

[real wyvern]

The checkpoint placements are "OK", we're just running into the funny issue with desync when loading checkpoints lmao.
Literally spawning into scout tendrils

[digital mural]

Honestly

I would skip the level

[dense junco]

but the last level

[tardy ingot]

Its more from an experienced players pov

The placements later on are sometimes rly awful

Im not a fan of checkpoints since people usually just use them to beat their head into a wall. But they CAN def still be nice

[dense junco]

we need the skins

[tardy ingot]

Lets just say

[digital mural]

If you are highly struggling with D2, E1 will be worse

[tardy ingot]

R2D2 is ~25th in difficulty

R2E1 is 4th to 6th

its not comparable

[real wyvern]

Tempted, at 15+ attempts with only being able to co-ordinate to play on weekends. It's definitely itching

[tardy ingot]

You are only gonna get recommendations to skip r2e1 for now

@real wyvern as general advice for r2d2:

Loadout:

• bio tracker (should always be on the team anyway)
• 2 burst sentries
• 1 sniper sentry

Always have at least 1 burst sentry down. Then either a sniper or a burst depending on if the wave has lots of giants/hybrids showing up or not.
Place all 3 when pressured/later into the level (and during alarms)

Main weapons:

• carbine: Easy to use, good choice. Medium range. Spamable as hell
• Burst rifle: similar, but less spamable. Better range
• Dmr: high range, hit headshots on smalls and you get tons of value
• Hel revolver: see above, but you also get penetrating/piercing rounds.
  For both dmr/hel revolver learning about reloads cancels would be helpful
• Sawed off: best main in the game. Understand the range you want to be in to kill (usually up to 8 meters is great)

Special weapons:

• hel rifle (for any enemy, massive penetration/piercing. 1 shots smalls anywhere. Giants get 4 shot to the body and scouts 1 shot to the head)
• hel gun: similar, but you need headshots for smalls to 1 shot (8 bodyshots for giants and doesnt front hs kill scouts)
• burst cannon (mainly giant answer but can be helpful for smalls too). Aim for centermass to 2 burst giants. Can be replaced with the sniper (just for this level, as sniper isnt great otherwise) sniper REALLY needs the giant headshots
  Scattergun technically if your scattergun player is balls to the wall playing up close during waves (1 shots giants and can kill multiple smalls per shot easily)

High caliber pistol, revolver and such are solid choices too if you dont like the hel weapons. You lose pierce and range but the guns are still solid for this as wave clear options

Regarding defense setups:

Theres 3 ways peope play it usually

1. Bridge hold (defend on bridge, near the spawn side security door. Later defend both sides of the bridge)
2. bridge -> after 4th code defend in the1st room on north side on the high catwalk. Lets you fight enemies from only 1 side
3. bridge -> after 4th code defend in the first room on south side. Close the left big door and open the small door and right big door to funnel enemies.

2 and especially 3 will have enemies take longer to get to you though than 1.

For code hunts:
shooting to clear faster is actually quite good (especially if no scouts)
Code 8 especially id recommend just shooting, running up and killing whats coming up. Then loot

For codes with scouts. Try to melee 1 in code 5 and shoot the other. Or shoot one and deal with the enemies inside donut room then the 12 from scout wave

Code 6. try to avoid wake ups in 2nd scout room usually

Clear faster (use ammo) -> loot more (have more ammo)

[real wyvern]

We're definitely already going to use that

bridge -> after 4th code defend in the1st room on north side on the high catwalk. Lets you fight enemies from only 1 side
Cause that's going to be quite big to funnel them that way.
We'll take the weapon information into account on our next attempt if that's going to be soon lol.

The scout "issues" we're decent at this point but refining that definitely doesn't hurt.
Fast clear to use less ammo to gain will definitely take another attempt or two to find the flow in that but definitely up for consideration if that'll help up even a bit!

Thanks for the tips regardless to everyone giving as this mission is wearing us down 🙃

[burnt inlet]

bridge -> after 4th code defend in the first room on south side. Close the left big door and open the small door and right big door to funnel enemies.,

is the most popular strats since you can lineup enemies with hel weapons and is generally closer to where you need to go, but i think both ways might work

[burnt inlet]

it is one of those levels tbh

[tardy ingot]

ngl full bridge hold is prob the most the best to learn though

[burnt inlet]

thats where youre gonna skill prog the most yea

[tardy ingot]

Ive now done reactor hold
Sadly compared to r4d1 its not as interesting. Its kinda just moving wave clear or boss clear to whichever spot they spawned close to

[burnt inlet]

R4D1 is such a vibe

[real wyvern]

Somehow I ended copying the wrong one- the one where they go from 1 side on high catwalk I inteded to paste... but eh discord moment

[burnt inlet]

i think this is where Eva is reffering to on all of the diff hold spots, you dont wanna hold too far away from reactor since waves get pushed SO far

[fair folio]

im so glad I never have to play r2d2 ever again.

[real wyvern]

[burnt inlet]

R2D2 is fun

[fair folio]

liar

[burnt inlet]

wrong reply moment

[fair folio]

oop

[real wyvern]

damn, my laugh is a lie

[burnt inlet]

frfr

how could you

[real wyvern]

It'll be more post-fun in our case atm.
I can see why someone would like it- but damn it has worn us out for these past.... 4 days we've played/spent on it alone?

[fair folio]

took my team like 3 weeks to beat it lmao

[dense junco]

the main problem is just how long it takes as just so long and timers not being fun

[burnt inlet]

R2D2 imo is like a 6.5-7/10 whilst a reactor with roughly the same layout is 8-9/10 with diff enemies and diff lenght

[dense junco]

we spend 4/5 hours just today and we can only play on weekends

[timber shoal]

r2d2 is fun if you rush waves in spawn

[tardy ingot]

Timers are actually rly nice (pressuring people to play more aggressive)

The level is def on the long side. Consider that the speedrun is 33 minutes…

We did it on the gtfo streamathon while a readout of a fanmade gtfo pilot episode was being read out

was a funny <45 minute clear

[fair folio]

timers give me anxiety

[burnt inlet]

i remember my first ||warden protocol|| giving me so much anxiety when my team ||ran it out to zero||

gosh

fun times

[real wyvern]

Timers are funny with the checkpoint mod we have.
We managed to get a 5-10 second timer at a point somehow 🤔

[weary heron]

Bullpup go brrrrr

[final terrace]

reactor missions don't usually have checkpoints and checkpoints are already buggy in and of themselves, so they tend to break reactor timers fairly frequently

[fair folio]

we only finished it because our checkpoints werent screwed up for once

[tardy ingot]

bullpup when:
you need to reload
You want to kill smth
You want a gun that is worse

[dense junco]

at least it's not the fog gen mission were putting batteries would start adding fog forever instead of removing it

[real wyvern]

Atleast we know how to get a consistant timer ✨
Cause strange interactions with any timer currently running will manage to override the saved time when you got the checkpoint

[tardy ingot]

Thats just checkpoints being bad

There is a reason most levels dont have any

[fair folio]

some of us suck and need checkpoints okay

[tardy ingot]

idk about need
Also its rly not sucking/being bad

This game is generally just extremely knowledge heavy

[tiny wyvern]

And the lack of knowledge/misinfo is often more deadly than being bad

[fair folio]

Shiru has knowledge and we still suck lmao

[final terrace]

I would be happy to play without the checkpoint mod, you wanted to keep it

[tiny wyvern]

What level are you using checkpoints on anyways?

[final terrace]

I think both sides are valid - on the one hand you could definitely do the levels without any checkpoints, on the other checkpoints mean having to spend less time on tries, because if you die there's less of a setback

[tardy ingot]

„Has knowledge“

Is a very rough statement tbh

[fair folio]

r2e1 would have never been finished without the checkpoints

[final terrace]

that's just wrong

[real wyvern]

[fair folio]

sureeeeeee

[tardy ingot]

cuz lets say @burnt inlet

they have knowledge. But the diff between them and some others is massive and it matters incredibly so

[burnt inlet]

i have knowledge, i dont act uppon said knowledge though

well

sometimes i do

but ive become more of a shooter than a kowledger

[tiny wyvern]

And I have knowledge and pub
which automatically just faqs me over

Don't try to learn from pubs, the misinfo is real

One day they'll tell you line of sight isn't real

Then they'll tell you that you can't melee scouts

[tardy ingot]

Checkpoints if used only when smth went wrong by accident (or to avoid extremely tedious segments (lets say r5d1 getting to end of secondary) could be great

The issue is often the playstyle checkpoints enable (and that checkpoint mod adds them in a lot of meh to bad spots and to levels where they simply break the level)

[real wyvern]

Object permanence? what's that?
I say heresy

[tiny wyvern]

Then they'll tell you to foam floors instead of doors

[final terrace]

yeah I've definitely noticed a lot of points where I just think to myself why in the world would you put a checkpoint here

[burnt inlet]

i checkpointed my R6D4 run 😔

really fun level though

[tardy ingot]

I also hold the subjective opinion that checkpoint useage removes a lot of the reward feeling I get when beating smth

[final terrace]

that's fair

[tiny wyvern]

(I still remember having to prove to someone that R2C1 has no checkpoints ages ago bcs their friend played with checkpoint mod, didn't tell anyone and it broke the game in two.)
(Fun times indeed.)

[fair folio]

I think we were about to cry when we finished r2e1 tbh

[tiny wyvern]

Honestly if you were going to cry you should've just skipped it for the time being

[burnt inlet]

i remember that event

[final terrace]

Speak for yourself lol, but it was definitely a very good feeling

[burnt inlet]

😭

[fair folio]

cry of joy idiot

[tiny wyvern]

I wonder if that thread is still here

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1207642382158266389

Ah yes it's still here!

[burnt inlet]

op nvm

i was NOT here for that

[fair folio]

check points also help cause we dont always have a lot of time to play the game

[tiny wyvern]

It was really sad too bcs the guy had absolutely no idea that he was playing with modded

[tiny wyvern]

fair

[tardy ingot]

Play faster 👀

[tiny wyvern]

eva don't be mean now

[fair folio]

i dont even have a hundred hours in the game, im too much of an idiot to play faster yet

[tiny wyvern]

Just know that the mod can sometimes break levels, so if something looks weird it might be the mod

[burnt inlet]

noooo it comes down to just like knowing sorta where stuff is

[tiny wyvern]

tileset knowledge

[final terrace]

tbf you can just do it anyway, there's nothing stopping you

[tiny wyvern]

Definitely fun to learn

[fair folio]

except that if we go faster i will wake up more rooms and we will die

[final terrace]

they call that practice

you have to fail to get good at something

[tardy ingot]

Mean wouldve been

„You should play faster then“
or
„Play faster???“

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah I suppose so

[tardy ingot]

This. Like 100%

[tiny wyvern]

My mistake

[fair folio]

I can tell he isnt being mean

[real wyvern]

I just envision this being said, followed by the "driving in my car" meme

[tardy ingot]

Ye the 👀 and all were to show the jest

[fair folio]

im getting there I just need time

[tiny wyvern]

I still suck at picking up on intentions with words

[tardy ingot]

I dont know the meme

[tiny wyvern]

The deltarune asgore 'driving in my truck' meme

[real wyvern]

☝️

[tardy ingot]

Aaah

[burnt inlet]

"hey that bump is shaped like a striker"

[fair folio]

no please, I just got yelled at for singing it

[final terrace]

well you need one syllable word

[burnt inlet]

i cant make songs

"hey that bump is shaped like a ||mom||"

[real wyvern]

"Hey that bump is shaped like a scout-
Watch me go, and take it out-"

[burnt inlet]

@timber shoal

care to explain

what happened in our R6D4 run?

[final terrace]

driving in my car
right after a stout
hey that bump looks just like a scout

[timber shoal]

someone forgot to fully charge her hammer :3

[burnt inlet]

oh right i was gona check replay mod for that

[final terrace]

that's a thing?

[burnt inlet]

ye

by randomuserhi

[real wyvern]

Kinda cool

[weary heron]

But bullpup go brr, and if I wanna kill sum I just use my special/cfoam

[timber shoal]

doesnt make it a good weapon

[weary heron]

I enjoy it, bullpup go burr(even if bad)

[timber shoal]

mmm

unironically would rather use any other full auto weapon

[frail heart]

Killing with cfoam

[timber shoal]

death by getting creamed on

[frail heart]

Sign me up!

[timber shoal]

type shit 🔥

[weary heron]

It stuns them does it not?

Ive been using it on Scouts to freeze them and keep moving

[ripe hamlet]

why are you cfoaming scouts

[burnt inlet]

just hammer :3

[burnt inlet]

yes but like you waste a LOT of tool on foaming one enemy

[weary heron]

Its mainly for stealth purposes, scince ive been playing solo, I usually foam scout, then run around with knife and kill everyone before scout becomes uncrusty

Playing non solo would probably be better

[burnt inlet]

you can kill scout with full charge knife back of head

[weary heron]

THANK YOU

i didnt know that

Now I dont have to do that stressful ass task

[ripe hamlet]

cues the montage of failing to hit the occi

[weary heron]

Being able to handle a whole dense groups by myself, again I solo play atm so its my best choice

Bullpup knife and scatter go burrr, slash, kashah

[remote plaza]

Bullpup agenda going crazy

[digital mural]

Bullpup is good

insert the clip of Bullpup killing a giant in 2 shots

[ocean spindle]

u can play whatev just make sure u experiment to find what u like n dont

[weary heron]

Best advice u can give

[ocean spindle]

experiment KSMDKDSM

and adapt to the lvl

taking the same tool to eveerything depending on the one can be, bit detrimental

also dont feel bad to just ask for help or stats sometimes

gtfo needs, NEEDS external info sometimes

[weary heron]

Ive been reading the wiki

Thats the most I've done

[ocean spindle]

das nice
better be wiki gg

just careful with spoils

might b even better to ask here

[weary heron]

I mainly looked at weapons and tools

[burnt inlet]

Tool yes weapons no (you can pick the same two and have a good time any level)

[ocean spindle]

maybe thats why i said tool

🔥

[weary heron]

I try my best not look at levels and just keep diving till I get it

The thing is bots kinda suck

[ocean spindle]

:[

nooo wdym

[burnt inlet]

Pub

Until you get to like the hard levels

Then find a half static

[weary heron]

They dont help really, and kinda just glitch out half the time, not firing and clipping through walls, and dont get me started on going for the alarm objectives

They only go into one if ur in one

[ocean spindle]

or close :D

[ripe hamlet]

now remove them and feel the difference

[weary heron]

Trying my best to find a team

[burnt inlet]

Host :3

[ocean spindle]

bots idk i think they are good, volatile yes but, work rly good with good weapons

[ocean spindle]

ok i bet i love r1a1 players joinin ur e1

[ripe hamlet]

r8e1 ezclap

[weary heron]

Im currently at r1e3

Mainly cause I suck and half the time I run into a croud and kill them before they react

[ripe hamlet]

samdown moment

[digital mural]

Modded????

Crazy

[weary heron]

Half the time it works half the time it doesnt

Mainly when 3 bots are bugged and are completely outta the map

[digital mural]

Kick them and add them back

[weary heron]

Didn't know u could kick them

[digital mural]

Change the player slot to locked

Then back to players/bots

[gentle forge]

I did some more testing with a friend and it does indeed seem related to alt-tab. Which is to say, if we alt-tab during the drop and then alt-tab back into the game after the drop is done, our audio is very quiet. This can be quickly fixed by simply visiting the vanilla audio menu then pressing escape to go back to the game.

I also installed your original Archive mod and am no longer using Hikaria's fork, so it seems like this audio bug is not exclusive to theirs.

Also, I'm using an interpolation of 5 seconds instead of 20, but it doesn't seem to matter. I bet that the bug occurs if you alt-tab during the interpolation regardless of its length

[hoary pawn]

hi, im trying to get a bit better at the game so right now im attempting r1a1 solo. I'm having some trouble building a loadout and any help would be appreciated, i really like the revolver for my special, but i dont know what to bring for my main. i have tried out the sawed-off and i dont really like it and ive tried the carbine and i think i need more crowd control damage. ty for any help!

[tiny wyvern]

Hel revolver would be something you'd like then

Dual revolvers might sound stupid but it performs if you've managed to make revolver work well

Keyword on 'worked well'
You keep missing shots and nothing in this game will save you and your CC

Aside from that, use tool

and bots

(I have no clue if you're true solo or bot soloing)

Bots may be idiots, but they work well enough with bio tracker
You can also tell them to use their sentries, mines and such with Q commands

[ripe hamlet]

hel shotty is pretty good for crowd control

im assuming this is true solo though

[tiny wyvern]

If you want to discuss about what you may be doing well or poorly you can drop by General 01 and I can walk you through some stuff

[lament pine]

hel shotty and hel rifle is nice for r1 content

hel rifle for easy scout clears and giant kills

[tiny wyvern]

Also if you're struggling with CC then perhaps you aren't using the right tools/Not using them properly enough to make much of difference

Something like closing doors without mines, cfoaming normal enemies and not doors and such

You can get used to the game through soloing, but you won't learn what you need to know in order to play well, so do keep that in mind as you go

[hoary pawn]

sorry about that i was afk for a minute, im running true solo for some practise, because i feel like the group i normally play is carrying me a little too hard. i true solo'd the level with the c foam launcher but i feel like i kinda cheesed a lot of stuff so im doing it again with the burst sentry.

[tiny wyvern]

If you want some of us can watch your run and give you some tips

[hoary pawn]

sure thing, ill record some runs and send in one that has some of the mistakes i need to improve on, thx heaps for your help btw

[tiny wyvern]

Well, I meant watch you play in one of the VCs, but that works too

[hoary pawn]

i would probably get really nervous lmao, i dont play well when someones watching. but if you would prefer that then its all good

[hoary pawn]

@tiny wyvern ive got some gameplay footage, i think i sorta know why i died but if you'd still want to take a look id really appreciate it :D

[tiny wyvern]

sure

[hoary pawn]

its not done uploading yet, but should i dm it to you? idk about rules around sending links in this server

[tiny wyvern]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/938329561140199434

We used to have a media channel for stuff like that, but it's gone now
Just link it there

[hoary pawn]

sweet ty, also im assuming you'll skip past a lot of the stealth, i dont wanna waste your time

[little pilot]

Class 2 Alarm:

Generally focus on dumping more ammo and getting scans done quickly.
By dumping ammo I mean don't be afraid to be "innefficient" with ur guns when killing enemies. It is better to kill them faster so they don't have time to reach and damage u. Solo requires you to "waste" some ammo by just shooting enemies as soon as u can to thin out the wave.
Getting scans done quicker there means you fight one less wave which saves both ammo and meds. It is especially important in the class 2 as being too slow means u fight double the enemies.

Class 4 Alarm:
Small nitpick: Don't double mine a door as it does very little. Using the mine on the other large door in the same zone is 10x better.
Not using sentry was giga troll.

Don't be afraid to just run away. The moment that alarm is done, u can take as long as u want to kill enemies. Generally the alarm was heavily carried by the fact that the scans were crazy good and the fact that you had cfoam + mine on the big door.

[tiny wyvern]

Don't have much else to add outside of your habit of tapping sprint when you're not sure the room is clear it seems, will need to take care of that
Also if you get slowed down with a reload you can cancel it by shoving using the melee key or just switching weapons, lets you immediately start running again
very useful in solo

[tiny wyvern]

Didn't expect to see you here again so soon after the streamathon, you guys doing good?

[little pilot]

I got good sleep, can't say anythin about the others tho

[tardy ingot]

Meh sleep on my side. But i also had a 4 hour nap yesterday

[hoary pawn]

great advice thank you so much, i wasnt sure where the enemies came from so i didnt know where to put the other mine but that makes a lot of sense (just to be clear you mean the door to the room that the class 2 alarm is in right?). also cant believe i just forgot to put down the sentry lmao

[little pilot]

yea, enemies can spawn in the class 2 alarm room or in the extract room. So there is quite a good chance u get a left side spawn and make good use of that mine

[frail heart]

[tiny wyvern]

How are you doing?

If the flight to Sweden is anything to go by I hope the flight out wasn't too terrible for you

[frail heart]

I had both middle seats unfort

It was fine tho

[tiny wyvern]

sadge

[ripe hamlet]

r7d1 ovl duo has been done

[uneven kiln]

did you wait 90m

[ripe hamlet]

that would be one way to do it i guess

we did run out of the snatcher toward the end tho

got the 2 mom zone and that one singlehandedly add like half an hour to the run trying to stealth the big zone

yes im a pub and did not do class 10

😔

[uneven kiln]

r7d1 overload is definitely the place to find out snatchers make no noise as far as sleeping enemies care

[ripe hamlet]

damn

we just keep stealthing for 3 mins before going back to wait for the snatcher before resuming

[uneven kiln]

considering that the prisoner screams loudly when grabbed you would think the room wakes

[ripe hamlet]

also

got 5 scouts in overload zone

thats crazy rng

[uneven kiln]

theres scout rng?

[ripe hamlet]

its 1-5

we got one once

and also five once

[uneven kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/jeong43va-crabs-are-these-crabs-fish-gif-12132424976319059537

that is the highest range I have ever heard

the R7D1 wiki page drags me back to edit it again

[fathom ice]

you know you can CANCEL it

its like non trivial so don't worry too much

[ripe hamlet]

the error alarm was kinda kicking our ass so itd be a hurdle to do

[fathom ice]

yes the plan is to go LONG

but like you know

[ripe hamlet]

long kiting is the one strats we try not to do

[fathom ice]

no like

you just have to run around in a big room for like 3 minutes

and wait for ur partner to get term for u

and it's like it

[ripe hamlet]

ic

[fathom ice]

idk mom tank zones are very unappealing

even tho they're not threatening

[ripe hamlet]

ngl we could probably do class 10

[fathom ice]

yes

it is BANGER

i'm just not sure about res cuz it's two people

[ripe hamlet]

the waves were easy

yeah the problem would be res

[fathom ice]

like my duo just agreeded on cancelling cuz it's safer / faster / non res consumable

you get it

[ripe hamlet]

real asf

[uneven kiln]

0 chance I can run around that floodways room for 3 minutes easily

actually surely you can dip into gardens/starting zone if needed

[fathom ice]

correct

like you just need to be ALIVE

[ripe hamlet]

whats the error spawn rate anyway

it spawns so much the enemies start to jank out heavily

[frail heart]

like at leat an enemy

[fathom ice]

^

[ripe hamlet]

why do ppl go to work when you can just get free money like this?

<@&408548765599793173> tell me

[ocean spindle]

LETS GOO FREE MONEY

[reef rock]

wtf free trumpcoins????

[stiff sandal]

Hi, Me and a friend are wanting to duo (no bots) R2C1 and were wondering which sentry is the best in terms of both crowd control and damage. Does anyone have any advice or info on this?

[ocean spindle]

all the pages for sentries in the wiki have lots of iinfo, but for a short brief
burst is VERY flexible and good
snipers goodd for long ranges and biig dmgs
auto is v niche and needs 2 3 mechanics to shine
shootgun uh exists

foor more info

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Sentry_(Disambiguation)

[civic wave]

burst sentry is generally the best into wave of smalls
hel auto sentry has some niche if you have large swathes of enemies going down a tight corridor ONLY IF you get the sentry to shoot at their backs

those are the sentries i would consider for the level

[prime ore]

Burst is made to be jst consistent for everything

While every other turret specialises

Thats why most used turret is burst

[blissful crane]

How do i actually invite my own friends into a lobby?

[stiff sandal]

ok thanks this has given me something to ponder. Ill probably stick with burst since thats what everyone is saying is the best overall

[prime ore]

Scroll to the right you'll side "copy lobby code"

Copy that and send to your friends

[blissful crane]

im not seeing the copy lobby code

[civic wave]

firstly, do not press matchmake
secondly, you can click where it says invite and go down your friends list in game
or alternatively, copy the lobby code from the right hand side of the screen (or settings menu) and send it to your friend. have your friend copy the code and a button to join should appear for them

if you pressed matchmake, leave, go back to the rundown screen, and press host lobby instead

[prime ore]

I will never use matchmake lol it's so bad

[blissful crane]

alright - so im at the rundown screen. only options i have is tutorial and matchmake

[civic wave]

can you send a screenshot?

[prime ore]

Press the funny circles

[civic wave]

click onto one of the circles in the middle of the screen

[prime ore]

Each one of them will send you to a rundown

And then you can pick whatever mission in it

[civic wave]

the main menu is the rundown select, by pressing one of the circles you'll go into the corresponding rundown and choose a level from there

[prime ore]

Pick R1A1

[blissful crane]

okay i see the host option

cool i got the code as well

and i just send to my friends and have them enter in that code?

[civic wave]

yeah, your friends copy the code (numbers only, no leading or trailing space), and a red button appears on the left hand side of their screen, underneath the matchmake button

[prime ore]

Yup

Thats mostly how you let people join your game

You can use matchmake but like that is the worst thing you could ever think of

[blissful crane]

thank you! do much!

[tulip lotus]

If you were able to beat R2E1 should R4E1 be pretty doable?

[timber shoal]

very different levels

[burnt inlet]

R2e1 is like 5th-6th in difficulty, id argue R4E1 is 3rd

[timber shoal]

it'll help but different strategies required

[burnt inlet]

but diff levels, req diff skills

[tulip lotus]

We've gotten to the point where you put the cells in but usually run out of ammo by the last or second to last tank and it keeps killing us

I have one other pretty solid player but I feel like you need an entire team of people who are really good. I don't want to get hard carried because that defeats the purpose but I am about a week in with no success. I dont want to jump ahead either, so far I have done every rundown in order and want to keep it that way

[burnt inlet]

i think yall should jump ahead ngl

main objective is like not the hard part because of scattergun

[ocean spindle]

if u truly want u should probs practiice tank killing then in duos or whatev if thats whats killin u, plus u need rlly good guns and of course strat, all whiich u can probs ask here or read/watch somewhere

[prime musk]

learn to doorfuck tanks with scattergun and your ammo situation will be super fine

[civic wave]

it may also be that they're struggling to go fast or "improperly" using tools

[prime musk]

with client scattergun it\s easier and more consistent, and having several people shoot on every dooropen makes it even easier as well

[prime musk]

probably but you do get enough ammo to take 2 cycles per alarm, even when shooting the zones, so i\d believe they just waste A LOT of ammo into tanks

[civic wave]

yeah, inefficient tank kill or overshooting waves are implicated

[remote plaza]

ding dong ditch strat

[prime musk]

next time try speaking english

[remote plaza]

💔

[keen bridge]

Hey if i download mods, that blocks the achievements progression?

[ocean spindle]

depends on the mod, and more of a questiion for mod serverr ksks

i think those that are along mtfo block progression?

[burnt inlet]

Pretty sure cconsole doesn’t use mtfo and blocks it

[ocean spindle]

well idk

i dont use mods ksmdkdms

[uneven kiln]

just link people the bug wiki page

It explains

[prime ore]

This is what door fucking means wow

[prime musk]

yes that is how you doorfuck

notable interaction is that if you have scream cd you can shoot 2 scatter stagger, then it screams, then you can shoot 2 more and it just dies

[prime ore]

So you can literally

Stun lock a tank

With a door damn

[prime musk]

another notable interaction is that if you don't have scream cd but have 2 ppl you can do the same thing but 2nd person staggers while scatter reloads

[prime ore]

And kill him in 1 cycle too

[prime musk]

i mean yes but a better way to view it is to like
imagine you for free can get entire team in perfect position to shoot at him

the repeated opening and closing is only necessary if you're doing it alone

[prime ore]

I see

[sturdy glen]

door baiting and door fucking are underutilized by pretty much everyone

highly recommend it

[real fox]

wtf is "door fucking"

[fathom ice]

^

[prime ore]

It is pretty weird how it works so up until now I didnt even know that would be impossible

Also why does the tank like not instantly start breaking the door but just stare at it in the clip

Thats prob the weirdest thing

[fathom ice]

he ghost hits from time to time

like even if u don't hear him break he does

[prime ore]

So he uses his mind powers to break the door I see

[fathom ice]

no you just can't hear it

[stiff sandal]

Me and a friend are about to try PE on R5A2 and are really worried about the mother in the overload. does anyone have any advice on dealing with her. I have a scattergun, dmr and burst sentry, my friend has a dmr and shotgun with a mines we also have 2 bots one with bio and one with another burst sentry

[timber shoal]

scatter should be plenty on its own for mom, babies might be an issue if your scatter shots arent good enough

[ripe hamlet]

Change dmr into hel shotty

Ezclap

[timber shoal]

yeppers

[ripe hamlet]

Sec door is a good funnel too

[ripe hamlet]

Chat how many blobs to foam the scouts?

I think only nm scout has different number right

[prime ore]

Normal scout is like 6

[prime musk]

every scout is 10 except nm scout that is 7

units

one blob is 3 units

[ripe hamlet]

ic

[frail heart]

theres also the intimidation thing where they dont hit for a few seconds after getting oon door

tru was showing me it in r3d1 duos

kinda funny lmao

tho idk if tanks can do it

[fathom ice]

ye

we call them BRICKING out on THE door

[regal tree]

Any tips for new GTFO players?

[thick stump]

with tips I am thinking more of the basics and there is a lot to explain, but the most important thing for me is to have patience at the beginning and don't be afraid to fail, because you gonna fail a lot, especially at the beginning when you are still learning the basics

[tiny wyvern]

Don't be afraid to ask questions, even if you don't want to play with a group

Also the server may not be incredibly alive but it's not terribly dead

So don't just assume no one is around

(Doesn't help it's a Monday for like half of us rn)

[thick stump]

I think it is also a good thing that there are not so many people around, because less misinfo gonna be spread around

[ripe hamlet]

Assuming ppl here don’t spread them

[thick stump]

I mean not as much as somewhere else at least xD

[tardy ingot]

#guides-and-reviews message

this channel as a whole is very good generally

If you dont see it, scroll to the top to „channels & roles“ and give the check to all channels

[final terrace]

using the spear of your own volition? Damn

[tardy ingot]

Easiest way to showcase back dmg thats very noticeable

Hammer wouldve just 1 shot

[final terrace]

fair enough

[regal tree]

What are the major differances between each melee weapon?

[frail heart]

Hammer is the best, knife for smalls, bat for brazil skip, spear for nothing

[final terrace]

knife is very quick, but also deals the least damage. It's good for quickly killing small enemies, but you need to hit headshots. Hammer is the most balanced and decent for meleeing smaller and larger enemies. Bat is in between knife and hammer damage wise, but staggers enemies with uncharged hits and spear has the most precision damage and higher range, but is also very slow and you can't sprint while charging it

and the different knives/hammers/bats/spears are just skins and all act the same if that wasn't clear

[prime ore]

Knife is best at killing smalls, spear is best at killing bigger enemies but slower, bat is more of a support with much bigger stagger and hammer for consistency

[regal tree]

The!

THX!

[ripe hamlet]

Spear is when you feel like making it harder for yourself

[frail heart]

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[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-meme-mods-gif-18091864705525459424

[tardy ingot]

Spear for meme melee only bosses

[burnt inlet]

Frosty is drunk again

[fathom ice]

<@&408548765599793173>

[grizzled patrol]

Accountability is overrated. If you wake Up an enemy, Run away instead of Killing it as If you owe it child support

[regal tree]

Hell yea

Aight

[final terrace]

i can also recommend shooting every time you enter a room, just to announce your presence

[regal tree]

Should I mag dump or just s single shot?

[final terrace]

mag dumping is better

[regal tree]

Aight

[frail heart]

bro boutta uninstall in 36 minutes

[regal tree]

Nah, already got to R1B2 alreays

Or whatever you call it

[timber shoal]

that’s the right terminology

[burnt inlet]

Don’t shoot as you enter a room 😭

[remote plaza]

Yeah, make sure you open all other doors before shooting too

[tiny wyvern]

That's still very early in

[regal tree]

yea

[tiny wyvern]

Just because you didn't hit your head on your way in doesn't mean you won't get shot in the face a second afterwards

Be careful

[regal tree]

I and my friend had two fails so we are getting the hang of it

[tiny wyvern]

This game kills you really quickly once you start thinking you're good and you start progressing

[regal tree]

we found out

[tiny wyvern]

Especially when you're starting out and you still don't know everything

[regal tree]

the hard way

the fog

[tiny wyvern]

Fog isn't terrible
Best way to get around it is with a bio tracker

[regal tree]

he had the bio tracker, I had foam

[tiny wyvern]

No mines?

[regal tree]

nope

[tiny wyvern]

Only foam isn't a very good strat in general

Cause you can't kill anything with just foam

[regal tree]

well the bots had turrets

[tiny wyvern]

Usually, mines and sentries are preferred if you were duoing

Oh you had bots

Well if you're taking foam might as well take mines

[regal tree]

why wouldn't we not have them?

[tiny wyvern]

I don't know

Some people don't like bots bugging out

[regal tree]

you can go without bots?

[tiny wyvern]

Shooting them in the back